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Cotton, Toppsy, Brooklyyn…..is this Arlen, Tx? lol
GOOD… Im glad…Oh sure.. he’s got the right to burn the flag .. they were just excersizing they’re right to tape his sorry @SS to pole ..LMAO..
Well the guy took responsibility for his actions….what a surprise..
nothing to do with freedom lefties, he stole the flag in off the pole in front of the vfw and then burnt it. he should have been arrested for theft and vandalism. he got off easy.
Good for the guys drinking cut rate liquor.(sarcasm) The guy took the taping inlieu of the cops. So be it.
Tough crowd eh?
How many hours before the ACLU represents the flag burner in a charge of terorrism against the VFW?
True social justice!
The court system was not tied up, The offender was repentant of his deeds, the true victims will be honored, and no physical violence……good job!
Whatwhatwhat you’re a litle slow…. It is not a freedom to comit theft and vandalism. The guy took the option presented to him in lieu of the police. Outstanding!
One of the big reasons they were so mad at this guy was because this flag had apparently flown over a foxhole in Iraq where several American soldiers were killed…
so, there was more to this flag than one just out of the box.
He sobered up, agreed it was better to be taped up then have his ass kicked by the town and paid his contrition. The guy who taped him up insisted that his name and face not to be shown on the news so there were no more reprisals to him or his family and they are all square.
Nice and simple and maybe a good example of simple justice.
In the city, it would have been ACLU, interest groups, courts and $thousands in legal fees.
Did they let the kids throw rotton tomatos at him though?
Dear Justice,
I totally agree with you.
“Whatwhatwhat September 26th, 2009 – 3:08 pm
Apparently, freedom only matters when it’s the kind of freedom you like. At least they didn’t kill him and scrawl “Fed” over his body in front of the kids.”
Typical libtard mentality. It’s ok to steal and destroy something, because that’s freedom of expression.
Where do you live? I’d like to steal your car and burn it, you know just expressing my freedom.
I promise not to scrawl libtard on your body.
Good for the soldiers at the VFW, and good for the offender guy for owning up and taking his punishment. I hope he goes to AA meetings also from now on.
Can we do the same thing to obama?
YesYesYes, true that liberals have a real disconnect with reality that you can’t steal someone else’s property and destroy it. Same problem with the “anarchist” protesters last week and virtually ALL liberal wacko mobs that think they have some right to destroy private property. Why do ALL liberal dimocrat gatherings degenerate into mobs that are destroying property of others?
Yep Justice, you hit the nail on the head there.
You do realise this is assault and kidnapping?
but you HATE Freedom of Speech, so you rationalise any punishment.
LOL! Yeah, send Americans to die for Israel, no problem. But stick out your chest over a piece of cloth.
Well, thats they call Non-Judicial punishment under the UCMJ, and gave the guy an option, go to jail for destruction of private property, and have your family face public shame, or admit it his wrong doing as he did, and provide restitution for his actions.
Volunteered to take this public ridicule. Good for all parties involved.
Some of the nitwits posting here obviously either didn’t watch the video or don’t have the brains to understand. The man VOLUNTARILY allowed himself to be taped to the flagpole – he had a choice of being arrested for destruction of private property, or serving as an example. It was his choice – get it?? Don’t you DARE lecture the men of that VFW about “dying for Israel” or anything else – they’ve earned our respect.
mark September 26th, 2009 – 5:45 pm
listen to the video again….the flag burner had an option & he took the sign & pole taping…in lieu of jail..
Trent September 26th, 2009 – 5:52 pm
If that “piece of cloth.” means nothing to you then how about you find a new country to call home!
Poor little Leftist are running scared now. Wait until next year at the 9-12 rally. We will have over 5 million people there. You guys are in for a very ruff ride. Isn’t free speech great? USA USA USA!!!! MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST All the same ask the nut taped to thre flag pole.
This story said the man from the VFW went after this flag burner…NOTHING was said about a sherrif or arrest.
You can not take it upon yourself to capture someone as a private citizen, and under duress say they chose to be bound and left publicly to be humiliated.
Had some thug decided to harm this man taped hand and foot, the VFW man would be under arrest as an accesory.
If this flag burner finds a lawyer,the VFW guy could face jail time and MASSIVE pain and suffering damages.
Freedom of speech (or expression) does not mean freedom from the consequenses of what one says (or does). This is a good lesson for those children who witnessed the whole affair. They will never forget it nor make the same foolish mistake this idiot did.
This POS obama supporter got off easy. Let him come to our neighborhood and try that crap. I tell you what WHATWHATWHAT why don’t you and anexio come with him. Will show you what happens when you disrespect our flag you POS.
Any SOB that burns or disrespects the flag must be thrown into the Colorado River to cool off.
Impeach the creep Kenyan illegal now!!!
It doesn’t take guts to burn a flag.
It doesn’t take guts to yell “MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST” on a website.
It takes guts to act like a grownup American, stand tall and pull together,and bring our Republic through some terrible times.
The problem isn’t the Liberals.
The problem isn’t the Conservatives.
The problem is in the mirror, folks.
These liberals need to continue to be held responsible for the actions. The burner is just damned lucky he did get burned over the ashes of the flag he burned. This is justice in my America! If they don’t get ncluding the damned media, then leave the country and now!
They were too kind to this flag-burning POS.
Awesome! Real courages Americans still do exists.
We the patriots of the United States of America will no longer allow disrespect of our flag. We don’t care what man’s law says we only answer to God. We will rebuild this country as we see fit and all you liberals can go hide under your beds or get the hell out of our country. You have awakened the sleeping giant….
Poor little Leftist are running scared now. Wait until next year at the 9-12 rally. We will have over 5 million people there. You guys are in for a very ruff ride. Isn’t free speech great? USA USA USA!!!! MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST
Almost 3000 people died on 9/11. Based on the local population, most of these were Democrats. Many of them were liberals. Are you with Osama bin-Laden, or against him? He hated Americans, too. Don’t draw your lines that way, folks.
The problem IS you liberals BTrog. Why don’t you go back to democraticunderground or dailykos to peddle your BS.
With the commie sympathizer in the whitehouse dismantling the CIA as fast as he can, the next terror plot may not be discovered in time to stop as it was this week and even more clueless liberals will be worm food.
This guy is lucky this is all that happened to him. I wonder what were the other options given to him?
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Sometimes you just need to make an example of someone to make sure the point is made to not do this stupid crap again. It might of gone a little far but nobody was hurt. I’m sure they will gladly deal with the consequences, or just plead insanity.
Most if not all former veterans like myself probably would have rather taken time in jail than give him a choice. The freedoms we have, including flag burning for some god awful reason, were and have been won by the brave men and women who fight for this country. The people most willing to take advantage of those freedoms are the least likely to want to fight for them.
He learned his lesson…..now to the meat of this clip…..did you notice the rack on Miss Tucker…..jo…..lly….lord have mercy
Ther is nothing more annoying or intimidating to a liberal than to think that actions have consequences.
Seems the VET leader featured in this video was judge, jury and executioner. “Gave him an option?” I suspect the more serious charge is for unlawful imprisonment. Shameful.
Bravo!
Again you folks just make up sh*t in your own head in this story. Not only no sherrif or arrest mentioned, no mention at all about the flag burner being liberal, or an Obama supporter. He was angry cuz this VFW wouldn’t serve him alcohol…PERIOD!
@David Kerr
“We don’t care what man’s law says we only answer to God.”
Funny cuz the 18 men who flew planes into the towers and pentagon said the same thing.
So did Timothy McVeigh, Branch Dividions and Jim Jones.
If you want a THEOCRACY go to Iran
8 feet of duct….5 dollars
Plastic chair..5 dollars
Fried liberal…Priceless…
Don’t you ever burn that flag in front of me, Bennie…..(Oh sorry, that would be Bendover Bennie)
The problem IS you liberals BTrog. Why don’t you go back to democraticunderground or dailykos to peddle your BS.
Well, it seems the problem is, some folks scream "LIBERAL" and cover their ears when they hear the truth. Go ahead – Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers killed maybe a thousand New York Democrats, many of them liberals, and a lot of them Jews, too. If hating liberals puts a smile on your face, well, then maybe you deserve to go to the same hell as the hijackers. Because you’re more than willing to hate, just like the al Qaeda nuts. That’s anti-American, and your sort loves to be anti-American.
And that’s not a "liberal" speaking. That’s an American. Go ahead, hate me. Doesn’t bother me a bit. You and Osama bin Laden, and all the rest of the crew, just go ahead. Your type never listens. YOU disgrace MY country. God Bless America.
Z06
5 bucks for 8 ft of duct tape….not exactly too bright a shopper are ya, cupcake?
But then Mommy probably still does your shopping.
This liberal doesn’t burn flags, never have and never will.
But thugs who think they intimidate or frighten me
http://www.pinkpistols.org/newspapers/020517-krickdoug.jpg
not so much
Oh Markie…
Good duct-tape is worth it…
Think you got something, babe???
Give your heart to God, cause you ass belong to this…
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1546592/the_judge_taurus_handgun_45_410/
Come git ya some, punkie…
BTrog wrote, “The problem isn’t the Liberals.
The problem isn’t the Conservatives.
The problem is in the mirror, folks.”
BU11SH!T! You are so full of cr@p that it must HURT!
The PROBLEM is that this country’s gone mad and the government thinks they have the right to STICK THEIR NOSE INTO EVERY FRIGGIN’ ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND *REAL* PEOPLE (NOT O-WORSHIPERS) ARE DAMNED SICK OF IT.
YOU, SIR, ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT PART OF ANY SOLUTION.
BTrog wrote, “The problem isn’t the Liberals.
The problem isn’t the Conservatives.
The problem is in the mirror, folks.”
BU11SH!+! You are so full of cr@p that it must HURT!
The PROBLEM is that this country’s gone mad and the government thinks they have the right to STICK THEIR NOSE INTO EVERY FRIGGIN’ ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND *REAL* PEOPLE (NOT O-WORSHIPERS) ARE DAMNED SICK OF IT.
YOU, SIR, ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT PART OF ANY SOLUTION.
BTrog wrote, “The problem isn’t the Liberals.
The problem isn’t the Conservatives.
The problem is in the mirror, folks.”
BU11SH!+! You are so full of cr@p that it must HURT!
The PROBLEM is that this country’s gone mad and the government thinks they have the right to STICK THEIR NOSE INTO EVERY FRIGGIN’ ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND *REAL* PEOPLE (NOT O-WORSHIPERS) ARE DAMNED SICK OF IT.
YOU, SIR, ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT PART OF ANY SOLUTION.
pinkpistols…hahahahahahaahaha
pathetic….thats all you got..????
We can skin a buck and run a Mark-line….And that Yankee boy won’t survive,,
Howz about the reporterette’s big BOOBS….shazam….Very distracting. What flag…
Yeah… I like it!
Actually, we should’ve set that punk on fire!
His parents voted for the fu**ing loser in The White House!
Perhaps next time we can force him to listen to Jeff Gartman
well he did it right! thats the way to retire our flag!!!! but i think he should have done something different, like go home and sleep it off. drunk or not, man is a discrace to our country and must be a bleeding lib!
He burned their private property,that is what the outrage was about.
When law enforcement and the judiciary fail to adequately protect the public, the public will protect itself.
Somebody in KY didn’t like invasive questioning.
Patriots protect our flag.
Good Americans did justice, in this case. (Though I would have let the kids throw things.)
Wake up Judges!! Either start some real punishment of the public WILL take up the slack.
We should have a right to burn the flag. But since the military uses the flag as a tool to get troops to fight harder, I’d say former soldiers should have the right to beat the crap out of anyone burning one. This guy got off too easy.
"He burned their private property,that is what the outrage was about."
Yep.
"The PROBLEM is that this country’s gone mad and the government thinks they have the right to STICK THEIR NOSE INTO EVERY FRIGGIN’ ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND *REAL* PEOPLE (NOT O-WORSHIPERS) ARE DAMNED SICK OF IT."
Nope. I’ve never seen a problem solved by people asserting their constitutional "right" to act like a screaming baby on an airplane – and that’s what the Halloween Parade of Tea Partiers seem to think is the solution. Unless you are a felon, a legal imbecile, or under 18, you have the right to vote for your government. Try it. ’cause nobody’s gonna change your diaper, no matter how full it is. Sorry, don’t care.
As for the Taurus Judge vs. the bull-barrel Ruger .22, now there’s a handy question. The judge is overrated, but the Mark II is a bit large to carry. Edge to Mark – the weapon you practice with beats the one you don’t, hands down, every time. S&W has a pink-handled .38 sp if you want to fly the flag, but you can’t see the pink grips when it’s being held.
Anyhow, God Bless America, and what happened to the grown-ups?
HEY TRENT is that retard samich your eat’n tasty?…. I think its a lil more than a pieace of cloth … and when someone throws “isreal” into a conversation ” just because ” its obvious just how ” rev wrighted” they are … your a goofy b@sterd!!
No, he asked to hide his identity so someone doesn’t wipe their *ss with this piece of sh*t.
Wanted to share the vid on FB but the first comment is not family friendly. Maybe we could get BTV’s blurbs to show in the share feature?
God, bless America and Her Patriots and please help the brain dead morons!
Should have left him there longer.
Proud member of the VFW. Semper Fi
@JBinID
Rationalize the cruel degrading filthy murder of Bill Sparkman, a middle age guy teaching kids part time, and Eagle Scout, working extra jobs to make do. He is survived by his mother and his child…but you in your infinite wisdom think it’s FINE a man performing a constitutional function of the country…a census, should be slaughtered.
There’s nothing evil enough to call you.
Valley Falls will make themselves the flag burning capitol of the country, and every flag burner will have his/her lawyer on SPEED DIAL.
You local yokels don’t know how many folks will do this just to p*ss you off, and collect a settlement.
Z06
Size fire power is the least of your concern. Better strategy, element of suprise, and adversaries that can be plump little old ladies or a 14yo tossed out on the street for being gay. We come in every color, age, ethnicity, and we have the capability to alter our appearance MASTERFULLY. Add to it hundreds of thousands of people who have less to live for than you, that is an army of LOVERS you don’t want to meet.
There is no right to burn the US flag indiscriminately (there is a procedure/ceremony for the proper disposing of a flag which is done by burning). It’s actually a punishable federal offense.
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4 USC Sec. 7 01/02/2006
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TITLE 4 – FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES
CHAPTER 1 – THE FLAG
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Sec. 7. Position and manner of display
-STATUTE-
The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or
flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s
own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the
center of that line.
(a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade
except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this
section.
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or
back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag
is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the
chassis or clamped to the right fender.
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the
same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of
America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains
at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during
church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall
display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or
international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior
prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United
States at any place within the United States or any Territory or
possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall
make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed
of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of
superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions
of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United
States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is
displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs,
should be on the right, the flag’s own right, and its staff should
be in front of the staff of the other flag.
(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the
center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags
of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and
displayed from staffs.
(f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of
societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United
States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are
flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be
hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be
placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States
flag’s right.
(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to
be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should
be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the
display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in
time of peace.
(h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff
projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill,
balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be
placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff.
When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending
from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should
be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
(i) When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a
wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag’s own right,
that is, to the observer’s left. When displayed in a window, the
flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue
field to the left of the observer in the street.
(j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it
should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an
east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
(k) When used on a speaker’s platform, the flag, if displayed
flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When
displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag
of the United States of America should hold the position of
superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the
position of honor at the clergyman’s or speaker’s right as he faces
the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the
left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
(l) The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of
unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the
covering for the statue or monument.
(m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted
to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff
position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is
lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed
at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff.
By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff
upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government
and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of
respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other
officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at
half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in
accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent
with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official
of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the
United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession
may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff.
The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the
President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of
the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of
the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives;
from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of
the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military
department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State,
territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following
day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff
on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed
Forces Day. As used in this subsection –
(1) the term “half-staff” means the position of the flag when
it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the
staff;
(2) the term “executive or military department” means any
agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United
States Code; and
(3) the term “Member of Congress” means a Senator, a
Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from
Puerto Rico.
(n) When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so
placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder.
The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch
the ground.
(o) When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a
building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended
vertically with the union of the flag to the observer’s left upon
entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag
should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or
lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east
and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south.
If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union
should be to the east.
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(Added Pub. L. 105-225, Sec. 2(a), Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1495.)
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7 36:175. June 22, 1942, ch. 435, Sec.
3, 56 Stat. 378; Dec. 22,
1942, ch. 806, Sec. 3, 56
Stat. 1075; July 9, 1953,
ch. 183, 67 Stat. 142; July
7, 1976, Pub. L. 94-344,
(6)-(11), 90 Stat. 811;
Sept. 13, 1994, Pub. L.
103-322, title XXXII, Sec.
320922(b), 108 Stat. 2131.
No comment BTroll?
“With the commie sympathizer in the whitehouse dismantling the CIA as fast as he can, the next terror plot may not be discovered in time to stop as it was this week and even more clueless liberals will be worm food.”
the skeptic September 27th, 2009 – 3:21 am
Howz about the reporterette’s big BOOBS….shazam….Very distracting. What flag…
I guess we are the only two red blooded American boys…..all these other guys talking politics and no comment on those nice hooters
Kenny
your friends here never got to the fun bags, the shiney object flashed and they were transfixed.
we enjoy some hot nipples too, the packaging is just different
http://www.queerty.com/photos-body-by-jeff-20090807/
I am a veteran, and I will protect your right to set fire to the flag…if you don’t object to my coming along with a dry chemical fire extinguisher and hosing your butt down when you do it.
I am a veteran, and I will protect your right to set fire to the flag…if you don’t object to my coming along with a dry chemical fire extinguisher and hosing your butt down when you do it.
God Bless you Jon, and thank you for your service.
With the commie sympathizer in the whitehouse dismantling the CIA as fast as he can, the next terror plot may not be discovered in time to stop as it was this week and even more clueless liberals will be worm food.
Small men suffer pitiably in the grip of small nightmares of their own invention. My sympathies.
Its a lie. MSNBC had him tape himself so that they could call the ACLU and sue the VFW.
Wow, way cool dude. They should have beat him up real good!
Wow, you folks are scarily close to fascists. Please do the world a HUGE favour and take the following steps: 1. pull your heads in. 2. stop worshipping the military like a bunch of poorly educated adolescents. I know it makes you feel like big, tough men but it’s actually quite pathetic and non-conducive to a peaceful and civilised planet. Thank you.
Ass hats that assume he is an Obama supporter: You are still the scum who supported sending our troops into the wrong country. You don’t have any credibility so shut your pie hole. You are full of lies, nothing about this has anything to do with politics. Stick to mustard on hamburgers and birth certificates dumb asses.
Ah man, this idiot gives Clutch fans a bad image.
The man got what he deserved. If he had enough gusto to walk outside a VFW and lower the flag and burn it on the pole then I would have expected much worse for him from the VFW members. But I wonder if he really did learn his lesson. I do applaud the Post Commander for his treatment of the man who disgraced the country and the commanders willingness to protect the mans identity.
these comments really made me lose faith in the human race.
his name is anthony parziale, hes the producer of waaf’s hillman morning show. also the options given to him were, we call the cops, you fight me, or we duct tape you to a pole…… too funny
Normally I’d make some statement about flag burning being First Amendment protected speech, as the Supreme Court has ruled more than once (United States v. Eichman, Texas v. Johnson). But this guy did not just burn a flag, he burned a flag owned by a VFW post, on their property. Nothing in the First Amendment gives him the right to destroy property. And the First Amendment notwithstanding, somehow I doubt that anyone would have found burning a flag to be an appropriate response to not being served in a bar for lack of ID. I mean geez, if he’s going to deliberately insult people (and to a veteran there aren’t many insults worse than flag burning) to make a political statement, he should at least make it be about something significant.
So yeah, the guy got off easy. I’m sure he could have been creatively charged with a handful of things (destruction of property, arson, endangerment), most of them legitimate, held in jail for a while, and I doubt that either the courts or the jury or his fellow inmates would have been lenient with him. He would have done absolutely the maximum amount of time and paid the maximum amount of fine possible for burning a bit of cloth.
And no, duct taping him to a flag pole is not assault or kidnapping if the guy agreed to it.
People trying to make inferences about this to “liberals”, Obama, etc. are hallucinating, but that’s a separate problem.
@Mark …it is NOT assault and kidnapping. The young man AGREED to the punishment.
…but I digress… Can we duct tape the ACLU to the Mojave Desert War Memorial they are trying to hard to destroy?
Keith and Bobby you are BOTH WRONG.
This VFW guy captured this man and took him to the VFW…that is both assault and kidnapping. Taking ANYONE even one block against their will is KIDNAPPING. Laying you hands on ANYONE is assault.
Once he had kidnapped the flag burner, he claims he gave him a choice to punishments this VFW guy had ALREADY overstepped his congressional rights. A judge would not hold the flag burner responsible for anything he said to his kidnapper and you have NO IDEA what other punishments the VFW guy offered. what if he threatened to slice his face, what if he threatened castration, what if he threatened to bust his knee caps, what if the flag burner felt he might be killed?
See any of the above situations the flag burner could say he agreed to ANYTHING because he feared for his safety.
BTW
The flag burner if charged would be responsible for the cost of the flag.
he wouldn’t have done ANY jail time, and it would be a minor misdemeanor.
dugg for milk
[...] Source:http://www.breitbart.tv/vfw-members-duct-tape-flag-burner-to-pole-in-front-of-kids-soccer-picnic/ [...]
Nice work VFW boys! Patriots are comprised of men and women representing the full array of social, economic, ethnic and racial backgrounds. Left wing, socialist, communist turds are starting to see that this group of people don’t put up with this form of disrespect. Just a word of warning – it’s not going to get any easier for you, expect an @ss whoopin’ if you step out of line.
Mark, seriously? assault is physial application resulting in pain not simply laying hands on someone? Can you imagine what that would look like if any time someone touched you it was assault? Congressional rights? I believe that deals with congress and the fact that they are not above the law, not sure what that has to do with this. You can apply your “what if” to the whole situation, however that isn’t what happened. I could make up a bunch of other “facts” and apply them to this story but it doesn’t make it true. I’m sure the cops would have charged someone if a crime took place. Maybe we all agree to disagree, but maybe we all agree that Americans will protect what is sacred to them. He got less than he deserved.
Really getting sick of all the "vigilante" posts. The VFW gave him a choice between going the due process route and settling it without charges being pressed. Real vigilante justice was prevented here.
these are some of the stupidest comments i have ever seen
I am local to this event and I think it needs to be made very clear that this flag burning was in no way a political statement. It was a random act of vandalism by a drunk. He was given options that allowed him to choose a lesser punishment. He did not recognize his fault, he only chose the easy route. For his age being an excuse, I can only say that he was old enough to have served more than one term of active duty. No justice was served, our system may not be what we would like it to be, but it is in place and paid for, use it. I am from a military family and married a vet, and I think this is an embarassment to those who have chosen to stand proud for this country. It is not perfect but it is what we have.
the ACLU will be all over this, i see federal kid napping charges O com’n
So where is personal responsibility. This idiot destroyed a flag owned by the VFW simply because they would not serve him. He is a punk. Those men and women that are members of the VFW have put their lives on the line for the freedoms of all of us. How did we get from my Grandfathers generation giving everything to protect our way of life to where we are today? Where is the outrage towards this idiots act? Show some respect to the men and women of this VFW post. They have earned that repect. The problems today are not right or left but a loss of personal responsibility. Everyone wants a handout. Stand up, take responsibility for yourself, take responsibility for your family, take responsibility for you life, your actions, and your responsibilities. Had this been me my father would have whipped my ass like there was no tomorrow, then had me do some community service for the members of the VFW.
We owe all we have to those willing to stand up and protect this country. God Bless our Vets, God Bless our Troops, God Bless America. Yes I am a proud Vet of Desert Storm.
Many Men and Women have died including my wonderful husband to give this man the right to burn this flag.. However, it is a disgrace how someone would think so little about burning our flag and its meaning for a beer. Being a proud Marine Corp wife and single mother. The anger i feel when i hear things like this makes me realize i would have done more than just tape him to a flag pole.
ALL I CAN SAY TO OUR ARMED FORCES, MEN AND WOMEN, STAND STRONG AND PROUD. YOU HAVE WAY MORE SUPPORTERS THAN YOU THINK. GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE ONE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, GOD BLESS AMERICA.
[...] (hey, it’s still legal right now, just be prepared to get the ever-living snot beat out of you or get duct taped to a flagpole at the VFW by a few of those aforesaid vets if you do [...]
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Apparently, freedom only matters when it’s the kind of freedom you like. At least they didn’t kill him and scrawl “Fed” over his body in front of the kids.