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: Q: How can you tell when President Obama is lying?
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: A: His lips are moving.
WOW!!!
Was that “edited” and “chopped up” to the MAX… :P
Are you all just enemies of America too that just wish to use and concoct things like this to only bait our tards here into damaging our county…
Be very aware of America hating propaganda now!!!!!!!!!!!…
Propaganda over the net, to sites like this, is trivial to do….
Don’t fall for this BS…
Apparently, people at Breitbart.tv are easily “shocked” given that this video (absent the dishonest editing) has already been seen. Try, try, try again to scare us.
Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Joe Biden tell lies to be liked and make people think they are smart. Obama tells his lies to destroy a nation.
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That is plainly laid out in the text of the bill available to anyone to read online from Library of Congress and other places. Just Google H.R. 3200.
They deny that but it is truly written into the language. Just have a gov’t plan will do that anyway. Most companies will tell employees and retired employees to go and get on the gov’t plan since it is cheaper and any company insurance will be secondary to that or disappear altogether.
Now they have changed tactics to tell people it is to save them from the evil insurance companies since they hit so much opposition to the bill so far. Given that 95% of the population is naive and clueless about politics I think some form of it will pass since congress is not going to be affected by it.
That is the whole problem in a nutshell. It is we who live with it not congress.
This CR4P, calling it A PUBLIC “OPTION” is CR4P. Democrats always try and control the language. Here, government dictates are being called a “public option”. Liars. Scoundrels.
ObamaHealthCare = Orwellian 1984 “Big Brother” Government.
This was NEVER about healthcare… It’s ALL about controlling you life.
The All-Seeing Eye Of The Masonics/Illuminati is coming together.
What will decent, honest Americans do about this evil plan?
Hey maybe the insurance business could stand some regulation, or maybe if you are purchasing health insurance you should take some time and understand what you are buying. Everyone who has a 401, a retirement fund in all likelihood has some part of that portfolio in the profitability of insurance companies. These guys keep jerking around the economy all of our retirement vehicles will be worth bubkis. Obama doesn’t have to care or do what America wants, all he has to do is lever,bully, negotiate, or threaten 500 people in Washington DC and it’s a done deal. Chicago, Pizza and Crooks
I think we can reform the health care delivery system without nationalizing it. Obongo does not want to reform anything. The democrats just want a nationalized health service ala Britain and Canada that includes benefits for illegals paid for by citizens.
Well cheer up folks the lier & fraud for not much longer I expect the court will have a tough time denying this time…
Certified. Has a raised seal. Signed and dated with names of officials.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg
Now the fun begins
Do you remember this curious story during the Presidential election? A couple of months before rumblings began about Obama’s birth circumstances and the discovery that BHO’s COLB (certification of live birth) was a forgery, a story broke in late March 2008 that State Department employees had tampered with the passport files of Barack Obama.
And one of the supposed tamperers was found shot in the head?
here is a video of Obamas comments about the passport tampering at the time
this is the man who was shot Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
N Waff wrote::
: Q: How can you tell when President Obama is lying?:
: A: His lips are moving.
Close, N Waff, but no cigar.
Answer should have read: His PURPLE lips are moving.
Also acceptable would have been: His elephant ears are wiggling.
This is called “Intellectual Curiosity” in the African American community.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8
Obama voters: thank you for this. Keep those Obama ‘08 stickers on your cars, you we can identify you and perhaps thank you personally
KENNEDY/DODD Health Care Bill?
Must be some sort of a SICK JOKE!
Exhibit A: http://www.fatboy.cc/live_from_chappaquiddick.htm
Exhibit B: http://sonsoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2005/08/kennedy-dodd-waitress-sandwich.html
What an editing job, and all your little trolls go along with it! Geez, you can see the edits, folks!!!Brietbart, you should be ashamed of yourself – such blatant propaganda. Sad, sad, sad.
All you have to do is read the first 20 pages of the bill and this is all confirmed. Once socialized health care is implemented, any change to your employment status results in you being forced (don’t you just love “Freedom”) into the socialist plan. All of the progressives/socialists can come on this site and comment how the video is “cut up”, but they can’t change the wording in the bill that neither they, most of congress, nor the president has read.
What is so “shocking” about it?
We knew who this guy was before he was elected. We knew it.
Here it is, taxes going up, private business being squeezed out in favor of nationalization, .. I can’t even type anymore.
What’s the point. They have pushed the public past the “shock” stage, nothing he does riles them anymore. We are so screwed.
is anyone surprised that the public option will undercut private insurance? (bc they dont have to operate in the black like your family, my family and all other companies). OF COURSE, this will happen…and now we have it in their words…those of you who call this Micheal Moore editing, do you really feel that the public option will not eventually lead to the elimination of private insurance?
why do you think obama and co wanted to rush it through…it had to get voted on (without even reading it according to rep. john conyers) before anyone figured out what was in the bill – congress or public. completely dishonest procedural move by the democrats…
NO TO OBAMACARE. YES TO TORT REFORM. YES TO COVERAGE ACROSS STATE LINES. YES TO EXPANDED COVERAGE.
All I can say is we must pray that eyes would be opened to see what a bad thing this is. Yes, we need reform but this is NOT it!
With people like John F. Kerry in support of it, what could go wrong?
He would NEVER LIE!
Exhibit A: http://www.SWIFTVETS.com
Exhibit B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ItPN9_79U
This is pretty much a given. I know of national companies that have already announced to their employees, that once the Gov’t health insurance is available, they will be dropping the company health insurance program, and the employees will need to sign up for the Govt coverage.
obama is a liar. he lies all the time . he will do anything to get his radical marxist policies passed. he needs to be impeached- for all his lying to the public. there has been no president that has lied like this president. how can he lead our country- when all he does is lie.
we need to stop him- we need to impeach him ASAP and take back our country.
Wow this is propaganda is I ever saw it, they took clips from two years ago and pasted them where they wanted them. It saddens me that news has come to this because in reality its not news, its stuff copy and pasted together. Drudge has become a total idiot in my eyes for putting in on his site. I am sure the right wing people will have a field day with this because they can’t think for themselves, all they will see is some video and think that if it’s on drudge it must be true. I do not support the health bill as it is now, nothing should be passed without being read, I do think that there does need to be a way for people with pre-existing conditions to get health care because of right now they can not.
To DDuke: Hate to break this to you but the g-damn illegals are already getting free health care. Their private unpaid-for personal physicians are the emergency rooms in hospitals.
About time I got something for my money besides sh!tty highways!
PS love driving my new Jeep Patriot (which I paid for in full) thanks to the clunker program.
This is backed up by the fact that Congressman Barney Frank–Chair of the House Finance Services Committee–has said in interviews that Obama’s “Public Option” is the most effective path to single payer government controlled healthcare. Frank said that the people would not tolerate an immediate switch to the government plan.
Why is anybody surprised by this greedy power grab by the Liberals?!
It is truly amazing to see the bleeding heart liberal liars try to deny the obvious. The government wants people to be dependent on them not only for health insurance, but also any other kind of assistance. Big brother does not want you to have the option of picking your own insurance for health care. They are trying to make this a Socialistic if not downright Communistic country where the government controls everything from the auto industry, the banks, private companies paying their help what they think the employee is worth and now health care. If that health care bill passes, we all will be screwed.
Notice, not only in this picture(still)here, as in many others like it, knowone has a smile on their face.
This nation is coming into very bad times, by very bad people.
Maobummer and his ilk, are going to get a lot of people killed.
In June, it was “BANKERS FOR DODD” – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvmt-JBSE8o $$$$$$$$
In August, it’s “DOCTORS FOR DODD” in order to get well for the September FUNDRAI$ER.
Waitress Sandwich Anyone?
Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.
The fascist Halfrican needs to be deported for the sake of our republic-and pronto. That or imprisoned…
So when did private insurance carriers become the enemy?
ALL of Obama’s promises come with an expiration date……..
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers both sidestepped questions on Obama’s intentions about taxes. Geithner said the White House was NOT READY TO RULE OUT A TAX HIKE TO LOWER THE FEDERAL DEFICIT; Summers said Obama’s proposed health care overhaul needs funding from somewhere.
“There is a lot that can happen over time,” Summers said, adding that the administration believes “it is never a good idea to absolutely rule things out, no matter what.”
During his presidential campaign, OBAMA REPEATEDLY VOWED “YOU WILL NOT SEE ANY OF YOUR TAXES INCREASE ONE SINGLE DIME.” But the simple reality remains that his ambitious takeover of health care — promised without increasing the federal deficit — must be paid for.
Fed up with Obama? Check out this song at: http://www.myspace.com/rogerweber
You’ll feel better.
Dishonest editing? Are these commenters claiming that, after saying that a public option will result in single payer 10-15 years down the road, that he said it wouldn’t?
Clearly, the dishonest editing they’re talking about is they edited in parts where Obama is saying he doesn’t want to take over health care. LET ME BE CLEAR, this is the dishonest part.
This is so sad. Obama is trying to destroy the best health care system in the world to save a few uninsured.
If you don’t agree we have the best system in the world (with some flaws– its not perfect), go to England or Candada when you get cancer. Then we can talk.
This guy is a sack of sh!t. Sorry people, no other way to put it.
Honestly, is this a surprise to anyone? Barry Sotero AKA B. Hussein Obama hasn’t told the truth one time. Except for what he is going to do that will destroy America and people either agree that America needs to be destroyed, they aren’t listening or they aren’t bright enough to understand and should never been allowed to vote in the first place.
A 3 Minute video showing more than $3,000,000, spent on just 2 ILLEGAL ALIENS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJxmJZXgNI&feature=fvw
Unedited,Unvarnished TRUTH…Not reported by our LEFTIST MEDIA.
All the people who support this clown are fools…
This is another example of Americans wanting an easy way out of our current troubles…
GET READY, this guy is making things MUCH worse.
I only hope that the public will hold Obama supporters responsible…
2010 elections are coming, lets get rid of ALL these liberal morons!
If it were a good idea and honestly was an element of bollstering the economy they wouldn’t have to be so stealthy about implementing it.
The public are merely pawns to the powerful in Washington… it really is a game of chess to them and has nothing to do with “the people’s interests”.
They know that the public option is unpopular
They know that if they speak honestly and clearly that they would instantly lose their power
They know that it will do nothing to improve outcomes or the would first address tort reform, abuses in the existing system, catastrophic coverage and targeted programs
They know that they will not have majorities after 2010 so it must be done now
They know that these socialized programs are failing internationally and that it only serves to make the public dependent on government, ensuring and expanding their power
They know all this, and yet solutions are not the objective… keeping power in the fewest hands possible is the end game.
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Sometimes pretend to be your friend
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Show no traces of the evil that lurks within
Beware of the pat on the back… it just might hold you back.
When will we hold our own to account? When will we drain the swamp?
Fix Congress, Fix Education, Fix the Economy… then we can begin to truly fix these other epic issues!
I Still have not figured out how a Street Thug from Chicage became the President of the United States
WE ARE DOOMED IF THIS GOES THROUGH!!!!!!!!!! oUR GOVERNMENT CANT RUN A SNACK STAND LET ALONE HEALTH CARE.
Anyone who looks at this and says, “it was edited to make it sound worse than it is…” is lying to themselves. What, did all those edits cut off the part where Obama says “NOT!” Borat style? “I have been a proponent of a single payer health care system…(wait for it)…(wait)..NOT!”
Wow! I can’t believe how you Tards don’t just accept everything Obama says, like I do. He is the best! The best I tell you! How can you tear him down? He knows better than all of you. I hate you haters with so much hate I could scream.
Male Health Care Summit tonight on AC369: Your Place or Mine?
What do you expect from a local community organizer who has never run a for-profit business??? He believes Government is the better solution than free-market, capitalism, and only Government can solve society’s problems.
We told you so… Call it whatever you like.
ObamaNationalists are America Haters…the enemy is within…purge now. We have been conquered by anti-American foreign interests from without, from within the Democrat Party, State-Owned News Media News and Old educationalists. They must be removed…
obama is a liar, racist, socialist and not a citizen. There is no dishonest editing of this jerks comments. Will the fools that voted and support him ever wake up to his destroy America policies. God please protect us from this evil, arrogant jerk.
What about GLOBAL WARMING?
This does bill NOTHING to SAVE the Polar Bears!
http://www.M4GW.com – Deniers.
That registration is interesting. It’s impossible to read the name of the hospital, but the name AND ADDRESS of the informant are clear: Barak Obama in Honolulu Hawai’i. I can see a number of reasons why somebody would want to register somebody’s birth in a place other than where the person was actually born. I’d say that this is actually more proof that President Obama was, indeed, born in Hawai’i.
President Obamanation is one of America’s greatest enemies!-
Why are you mush heads complaining about editing? You’re not making rational sense. This vid shows statements by niave socialist Obama, that can’t be undone,… unless the next thing out of his mouth that wasn’t in the clip was “Ohh just kidding”.
The idiot left with statistics = socialism.
Keep those Obama stickers on your cars. We will want to “thank” you later on. We just need to know who to “thank”.
Yes, there has been editing involved here, but only to show us plainly and quickly the variety of times Obama and others in his administration support a single payer system. I have heard others – even physicians – who can see that a nationalized healthcare program will ultimately force private insurance out of business because a private insurance company simply cannot compete with a competitor who never has to worry about making a profit (because the government can always dip into our pockets some more to pay for it). Thank you to whoever pulled these clips together!
To the liberals complaining that the video was edited: Yes, it was from several legitimate public appearances by Obama, all entirely in context. Your complaints about it being edited would only matter if words and sentences were taken out of order to make him say something he didn’t, simply not the case here.
Look, every single liberal I know wants Single Payer, every last one of them. Obama’s from the VERY liberal wing of his party and holds the ideals true that he was quoted here as a state legislator in 2003 wanting: Single Payer, Universal Coverage.
I, and thankfully the majority of Americans oppose that. That’s why rather than debate Single Payer and Universal Coverage with conservatives and in front of Americans, Obama/Pelosi/Reid are doing everything they can to hide, conceal and deceive the public about the size and scope of their stated goals.
I know a good many liberals who would love for the debate to shift to SP/UC vs. Private Insurance Plans and who are disappointed with the subterfuge the administration and congress are engaged in. They want the public debate to be in the open because they truly believe the public will respond to and support SP/UC. I and most conservatives also want the public debate to be open and honest because we truly believe the public is overwhelmingly on our side and needs little manipulation to respond to the argument against SP/UC.
This tape more than clearly articulates where Obama and the Dems want the US to go, and it is in a direction against the wishes of a majority of our citizens.
NO (for openers): (i) to Socialized Medicine; to healthcare controlled by government bureaucrats; to free healthcare for illegal aliens (ii) to trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see; (iii) to Atty Gen’l Eric Holder and further politicization (spl?) of the Justice Department; (iv) to Marxist Communism over Free Market Capitalism; (v) to armies of ACORN members and the proposed growth of Americorps into the presumed Obama Army of Brownshirts of this generation; (vi) to increased domestic spending; (vii) to Judges legislating from the bench; (viii) to taxpayer guarantees of union pensions; (viii) to higher taxes; (ix)
YES (for openers): (i) to FREEZE of all SPENDING; (ii) to REAL AND IMMEDIATE consequences for Judges who usurp legislative authority; (iii) to the free enterprise system; (iv) to freedom; (v) to strict construction of and compliance with the United States Constitution.
Democrats lying about their health-care plans? Who could have imagined? That is pretty much their textbook approach to getting their agenda passed. “The American people don’t want what we want, so we will lie to them about what we want in order to get it passed.”
I have dedicated my life to this issue and I have sacrificed the LIFE of another, just to be a able to serve you.
Yes We Can…Lie,Kill,Cheat and Steal…YES WE CAN!!
And, as far as President Obama’s health care plans, I hope that he is able to destroy insurance companies. Insurance companies are more about making a profit for shareholders than about ensuring that people get health care. Why is there greater longevity in those countries with your so-called “socialist” health care plans? Are you really so against universal single-payer health care that you’d rather die than live longer and better because a government-run program is socialistic? Just how sick are you people?
And to think half this country thought he was telling the truth before he was elected? What does that say for the intellect of the American voter? SUUUCKAAHs! When you’re seriously ill or hurt and can’t get treatment because of governmental B.S. or regulations think to ask yourself these two questions..1) How did these idiots ever get into a position to destroy a nation and have a say in my personal health? 2) Was my vote responsible for this? If your answer for question number two was “yes” repeat after me, “I’m a SUUUCKAAH!”
I am glad Obama hates America. I hope he keeps hating America right into prosperity like he seems to be doing.
Hey Diana Powe & especially Comrad Larse,
I guess you fools still believe that Obama is the chosen Mesiah. Well Comrades the truth is that you Mesiaj is nothing but a big socialist and who is being figured out by the American public. I hope that enough sane people will rise up in 2010 and help take back the country from idiots like Comrad Obama, Botox Pelosi, and Senile Harry Reid, and company.
Liberals are destroying themselves and they are taking us with them. Culture of corruption and the culture of death are coming in great speed.
Stop the Obamacare.
Who are those guys, by name, behind Maobummer as He’s signing that bill on Bart’s main page?
They look like they are mentally twisting His arm to sign that legislation.
I don’t recognize a single one of them.
The decent people in the nation are beginning to feel buyers remorse for electing this dope. He’s not who he pretended to be in the campaign and every time he says something reassuring his lying. He is destroying he economy with his profligate spending (paying off special interests who campaigned for him), he’s trying to make people so desperate that that they’ll take his poison-pill health care ram down plan, 2010 will be hell for Dems and Obama will be lucky make it though his 1st term. The only question is whether the next President can undo the damage that Obama has done.
The decent people in the nation are beginning to feel buyers remorse for electing this dope. He’s not who he pretended to be in the campaign and every time he says something reassuring his lying. He is destroying he economy with his profligate spending (paying off special interests who campaigned for him), he’s trying to make people so desperate that that they’ll take his poison-pill health care ram down plan, 2010 will be hell for Dems and Obama will be lucky make it though his 1st term. The only question is whether the next President can undo the damage that Obama has done.
Time To Stop The Madness Now – WASHINGTON DC 9/12/2009 TEA PARTY ROLLS TO WASHINGTON http://www.912dc.org
Barack Hussien Obama is like a virus on your PC getting into every program it can to live forever stealing your data and uploading your info to the internet. Barack Hussien Obama is The Original American Terrorist – He is an ECONOMIC TERRORIST SET TO CRUSH AMERICA. THE LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS MUST BE STOPPED. HEALTH CARE NO WAY JOSE. CAP AND TRADE NO WAY JOSE. SEAL THE BORDERS NOW. STOP THE SPENDING NOW. THEY ARE TRYING TO SPEND THE USA TO DEATH. AMERICA MUST RISE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. SHOW UP IN WASHINGTON ON 9-12-2009. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER.
You simply must analyze what this administration says very closely. Just yesterday Larry Summers, chief economic advisor to the President said in answer to the question if taxes are going to be raised on the middle class:
“The President is not for any program that must be primarily paid for by the middle class.” Note the word “primarily” in there. That answer does not support the Obama promise to not raise taxes on the middle class. In fct, it implies they will, since Summers had already said “It is never a good idea to rule anything completely out.” Tim Geither, Treasury Secretary, gave the same sort of nebulous replies yesterday when he was asked if taxes are now going to be raised on the middle class. Democrats in Washington never miss an opportunity to raise taxes.
Do you think Democrats LIE, LIE AND LIE SOME MORE?
Want to get more people insured? Write a law that nobody can buy a car, a TV (let alone cable), an iPod, Nike shoes, $70 blue jeans, a cell phone, Nintendo Wii, DVD player,or even a Blockbuster video membership without health insurance. Most people HAVE THE MONEY, they just choose not to buy health insurance because they want an X-Box instead. Force them to put a few hundred bucks a year into a basic insruance plan. Problem sovled.
Make me the Health Insurance Czar, Obama. I can fix your problem. Fast and cheap.
Anyway, when health care is run by the government, in a democracy,
eventually the “other guys” (for the left this means the Republicans)
will someday be the ones writing the health regulations.
Republicans won’t have to bother making abortion illegal,
they’ll just rewrite the regulations and cut off funding for
all government-funded abortions (actually they’ve already done this, right?
it’s just that since there IS private health care, people can still get abortions.)
And when ALL health care is government-funded, that means
abortion will be de facto illegal.
Republicans can also cut funding to AIDS research and
send it to cancer research.
Hyperactice liberals can ban animal testing and paralyze the development of new medicines.
Pot-legalization advocates will get pot legalized and paid for through Obama-care,
but only from government-approved sources,so it’ll all be shitty mass-produced pot, putting
growers of quality stuff in the tough position of trying to work in a black market under
a black president. Will they still claim to be oppresed by The Man?
Congratulations Democrats. Is this what you want?
When government controls health care, health care is ultimately controlled by
politicans, not doctors. America has the best health care in the world, best medicine,
best surgeons, best technology, best cancer survival rates, and over 80% of ALL the Nobel Prizes in Medicine for the past 40 years. On the whole the USA is far better than other countries. But you want to ruin it by trying to give everyone univerasal (universally mediocre) health care. Even though all the evidence shows that the average success rate (and thus the number of poeple who LIVE and GET CURED) will go down.
Democrats think that;
a system with a 80% cure rate for 80% of the critically-ill people
(Total success rate, 64%)
is unfair, because 20% of the people don’t get treatment. (Total dead 34 per 100)
and want to replace it with a 50% cure rate for 100% of the people
(Total success rate, 50%, so 14 more dead people per 100 patients, for 50 dead per 100, but it’s “OK, because it’s more fair”)
This is what you want?!?!?!?
No thanks.
NOT from CNN CENTER in Atlanta:
The CO$T of Health Care For ILLEGAL$ – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSe3C5vMafM
Yes We Can…take care of the world…YES WE CAN!
obama is the “antichrist”- here to destroy america. How can a community organizer rise to president of USA in only few years without any real experience/background? Only if he is the “antichrist” – which he is. He was accepted into Occidental College on Fulbright Scholarship- only given to foreign student. His application had “indonesian citizenship”. He is muslim- not christian- as confirmed by sitting in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years- listening to hate whites, christians and jews. He lies and deceives all americans so he can get his radical muslim marxist policies passed to bankrupt our great country. he is working at stealth speed to make this happen- without the majority of people even knowing it is happening.
wake up america and media- we need to stop him and impeach him now.
all of these bums need to be thrown out
As far as I am concerned the only ones besides Congress and the senate screwing us are the attorneys
look who got rich over just this, does John Edwards ring a bell???
why do you thing the insurance co’s have such problems
I know doctors that no longer practice certain medicine because their insurance costs are out of this world
why is that? because you always have an attorney lurking in the shadows to take you to court
PLUS the hospitals that have died BECAUSE the dems love people living in this country illegally
Who are those guys behind Maobummer signing that legislation, on Bart’s main page?
Knowone’s smileing…. that’s a very bad sign, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
* Try keeping this like comment posted-up this time, Bort-Bort. *sigh
“I’m from the government, I’m here to help you”.
Our government routinely breaks up monopolies in the private sector. But when it comes to creating one run by the government it’s no problem.
Those of you who say this video was pieced together are simply in denial that this man intends to take over a big chunk of private enterprise. You are a brain washed product of public (government) education if you think this crap is good and soon all of you will soon have to wear this seersucker suit of a scam. He has already done so with the car companies and he took our money, knowing full well that some would go bankrupt anyway.
It was touted as “investment” with great returns for the taxpayers. It was nothing more than a shell game to pay off those who supported his election. Fact is that the economic problems this country faces were created by the same politicians that are so hot to fix it for you. They tell you this must be done right now or the opportunity will be gone and you buy the clunker of a bill without knowing what is in it.
How did we get so many used car salesmen in our government? Well it’s sort of easy when they have a very large sea of dumb masses that will fall at there feet when they tell you “I’m going to get you some”.
You buy it when you are told it won’t raise your taxes and swoon when you get a few pennies more in your pay check. But you don’t make the connection when you have to spend more for the products and goods that you buy… you just simply blame it on “big greedy” corporations.
Don’t worry… you will certainly get what is coming to you. Enjoy your liberty and freedom brought to you by the Offices of Nancy POPElosi, Harrynot Readthis (Yet), Barney “Rubble” Frankly and company.
All you need is logic to know that Obama’s plan will end up wiping out private health insurance. Private insurance must make a profit to stay in business; the government option does not. Who can compete with that? And how many businesses will drop private insurance for their employees for the obamacare? And to those of you who think government-run health care would be better than what we have now, just talk to people in Canada, France and other countries that embraced the government option. It’s amazing how many people think that the only way to reform health care is the government-run option.
President Obama gives great speeches and he is one of the best con artists that I have ever heard speak. One of the first lessons every young person should learn is that when you are dealing with a con artist they are generally in a rush to close a deal and they don’t care about your welfare. When anyone tells you that you don’t have time to think an offer over then you should walk away. Most of of life’s decisions need to be carefully thought over. When someone lies to you once they will lie to you again and again. When President Obama talks the truth is lost and his lies are hidden behind his great smile and beautiful words. President Obama speaks of caring for those less fortunate people in our society while his objective is not to lift up those that are less fortunate but to take from those that have prospered and to destroy capitalism while he builds a socialist empire. By now everyone should be aware that Obama is is taking us down a road where the government will control at least health care, banking, manufacturing. And everyone should be aware that everyone’s taxes will be raised to pay for the trillions and trillions of dollars that President Obama’s socialist programs are going to cost. To take over a country you must first destroy their economy. Socialism is at the door.
Don’t believe your lying eyes.Don’t believe your lying ears.You can fool some of the people all of the time,all of the people some of the time and occasionally fool all of the people all of the time if they ignore facts-see P.T. Barnum and Barry Soetoro.Too many lies- no middle class tax hike,unemployment less than 8%, the stimulus is working, no lobbyists,transparent government,no taxing of health benefits,etc.Why not release the long form birth certificate-the Hawaii last week admitted that it exists in the archives.I know that he was born in Honolulu,but why not get out the original and end this nonsense-Occam’s Razor.I suspect that if he releases it pressure for other releases will come: HS,college and law school records.Something bad is in those records-Occam’s Razor again.He may read Urdu poetry(yeah, right) but despite going to Harvard he does not understand Latin-VERITAS.
This may or may not be heavily edited, but this video from Barney Frank says the plan as currently drafted is designed to “lead” to a single payer option.
And it is NOT edited
who wants to take more out of your wallets??
who is forcing you to PAY MORE TAXES??
the TAX CHEAT HIMSELF
who is forcing all of this down our rhroats
the TAX CHEAT HIMSELF
making all pay more when he himself thought he was above it all
Geitner
1. I think this “socialist” accusation is bogus. No substantial meat (truth) to it. It’s just distracting rhetoric that dumbs down the discourse. Over the past year it’s become an umbrella term for ANY government regulation, reform or government initiative. Blurring definitions is not an argument.
2. The idea that a government option means more red tape + bureaucracy… well private insurers in the US are absolutely horrible when it comes to customer care and bureaucracy. You’ve got to admit that. In which case address it, don’t pretend it’s all so rosy or forgive the present system’s enormous flaws just to chant sound-bites with rest.
Clearly, Obama will always “CHANGE THE CALIBRATION” of his words to slide right into his true agenda….when he is caught lying or even revealing his true intentions. All of his words are weasel-words…designed to fog the issue for those that are still worshiping the sound of his voice. He is a total fraud, and those forum posters that defend his indefensible actions are all on his payroll and part of his machine. This is absolutely the truth. No American with a single bit of common sense will cling to his “vision” unless they are subversive themselves, or on the take from the Obama machine, like ACORN.
What a lying BA$$TARD
This president has lied over and over again, it’s only a matter of time before everyone figures this out.
I guess since he didn’t say “Read my lips”, it’s all OK…
You americans really can’t get right can you- socialists?? come on? In Canada we have a universal healthcare system , so does Britain and France. The private insurance companies are only interested in getting your money and not paying out for claims…. get it! a business decision- take but don’t give its like buying air. No you prefer wars, to go to foreign lands and kill women and children hmm I assume it was justified when Iraqi soldiers tried to invade the US. They should of been in the US during all those disasters.You waste all your money on building a military might- hey why not go talk to all the maimed soldiers and families and ask if they think it was worth it??? Not the recruiting agents or desk officers who are full of hot air- speak to a guy who is missing his limbs. Your whole economy is is ruins because your spending all you have on the military- not education, not healthcare, not job creation. You know what your all ignorant and uneducated as far as im concerned you clowns deserve all the economic troubles you are going through – you people elected bush 2 times – wake up, get an education, get an education for your children, get informed and not swayed by rhetoric, he’s a terrorists, he’s a socialist, he’s this he’s that- you don’t even understand the true defination of these words and just speaking like puppets. Your not even able to critically question and think for yourselves- Russia fell apart due to their military priorities- its happening to you right now. Notice Canada does not have the problems you guys have- please try to debate me with facts not socialist, terrorist, evil labels that you don’t understand. Try to understand his policies and see how it will affect all of you- its called egalitarian- that means whether your poor, rich, black, white, or what have you- you will be taken care of in the hosipital and not walk out in debt for life or rejected because you don’t have insurance- man where is the difficulty in understanding this???? Honestly how many of you have invested time and education in yourselves?
Please sign the petition at http://www.ReadTheDamnBill.com
Sound like the way Adolf Hitler started, doesn’t it? We should be afraid … VERY afraid.
I wonder if the million+ insurance jobs that would be lost figure into Obama’s two-million-jobs-saved-or-created scheme…
I just love the wailing little neo-commies on here complaining about the video editing as if they’ve never watched 60 (neo-commmie) Minutes on the Communist Broadcasting System.
By the way you little losers, it’s called a MONTAGE. It is a montage of leftists saying exactly what the Obamunist says “Nobody is talking about”. A montage puts clips of video of some people saying one thing while another person saying the exact opposite to illustrate the lie being perpetrated on the greatest country in history. If you don’t get how a montage works, that is not our problem.
We know you’re just plants from Moveon.org here to try to disrupt the movement against your Supreme Leader, but while we still have free speech in this country, we will continue to expose your lying leaders for what they are.
He who controls your mind,controls you.That utube video has been around for a while.So how is that a shock?
Obama’s words have shifted. But even in the 2003 video, he made it clear that he didn’t think single-payer could be achieved under current circumstances.
He said on many occasions during the campaign “If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system”
Even as the U.S. spends much more on health care than other developed nations, it does not perform as well by such standard measures as life expectancy and infant deaths:
Life expectancy:
Britain 78.1
France 79.2
Canada 79,7
U.S. 77.1
Infant mortality per 1000 births:
Britain 5.0
France 4.5
Canada 5.2
U.S. 6.5
Beside we have several forms of universal health care.Medicare, VHA programs, and Medicaid.
We will get some form of health care reform.It wont be universal.
Ok breitbarf come up with a real shocker,Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate and post it on your third rate news site.
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Our “FAB 5″ expert panel- pictured here http://www.crewclub.net – will discuss.
This is not new news. As a physician, I can say that universal healthcare is really what we need even with doctors maybe earning less money. It’s not going to happen, as Obama says, for many years.
Despite what propaganda is out there, the US has really fallen down the list for healthcare around the world.
Medicare while not being great, is FAR more efficent than an private insurance company in the US.
Dear swoop:
Thanks for your input… invading our issue with your unsolicitated noise, swooping in where you have no stake to take away our right to civil dissent. Perhaps Canada does not have the problems we have because they are more willing to cede their personal and national rights to a government that will nanny them.
Yours is a perfect world, I can’t imagine your ever needing to leave it and venture to the US… unless of course, you become ill and need immediate or specialty treatment.
This better be all over the Nation NEWS!!!!!!!!
This better be all over the Nation NEWS!!!!!!!!
This better be all over the Nation NEWS!!!!!!!!
Cant run the 1 Billion Dollar Clunkers program…
And people want them to run our health care program
Who voted for Obama? People looking for a free ride? Learn to take care of yourself, get a job, go to school and earn a living. Unions? I will never buy another GM car as long as I live. Liberal elites?
You will soon see your taxes raised big time to pay for this socialist agenda. I am afraid our country has lost its “balls”.
Why am I the only one that thinks the first thing that needs to be done to healthcare is tort reform!?
Someone needs to ask John Edwards about the damage & costs a few lawyers can have on all of our healthcare costs.
Next time you chat with a doctor ask what they pay for malpractice insurance.
Obama is the trojan horse on everything the radical democrats are trying to slip through on the American Public. His popularity especially with the Democratic Main stream media allows him to get away with all these false statements as there is little critical analysis from his supporters, the Democratic Main Stream media. The Democrats needs to be stopped as they are radically altering, weakening and watering down the capitalist system that made American great!
This is nothing new. Check out the video at this post:
http://changewedontneed.blogspot.com/2009/07/deception-of-government-option.html
Richard – you may be a pjysician but you’re wrong. The US is not falling down any list. Check out the 10 Myths of US Healthcare at the above blog. It explains the myth that US Health Care lags behind other countries. It’s just not true. Our cancer survival rates are better than countries with single-payer systems. Our overall care is better than those countries. You are basing your claim on rankings that are based on things like life expectancy. We have a higher homicide and auto accident rate which causes our numbers to be lower. They are also based on infant mortality which all countries do not report the same. An infant born alive in the US is not the same as one born in France causing our numbers to be lower.
As for Medicare being more efficient, that’s because they pass most of their administrative costs on to the providers. Also they only pay a percentage of the fees causing the rest of us to pay a hidden tax.
People need to wake up and look past the lies that we are being told. If you’re happy with your current employer-provided coverage you will not decide if you keep it or not, your employer will decide for you. This is part of the plan. It may take a decade, or 15 or 20 years but it will happen. Just listen to Obama, he’s already told us.
I learned a long time ago from my parents, that when someone provides you with something (especially things you depend on), then that makes them a stakeholder in your life. That said, the more we tie ourselves together, the more we will try to control each other. In the case of government handouts, civil liberties will be walked all over and perhaps lost. In the future, we will see the government try to reshape how we live our lives with regard to diet, smoking, alcohol consumption, and it will all be in the name of lower healthcare costs for everyone.
The idea that “healthcare” is a right is absurd. Notice that when our rights were listed in the Bill of Rights and Constitution, those rights were not dependent on anyone elses wallet. If the economy collapsed tomorrow and the productive citizens could no longer afford to pay for the “victims” of social disparity, what would happen to this so-called right???
But, hey, what do I know? I am only living under socialized medicine in Europe… By the way, the median salary here is only 30,000 euros per year. The tax rate is 42% (on a salary < 50,000 euros) and the sales tax is 19%. I should also note that healthcare still isn’t free. I still have to pay 100 euros a month for myself, and also forced to pay an extra 100 euros per month for people who can’t afford insurance. Socialized medicine is only a good deal for people who can’t support themselves.
Some great comments on here. E-mail your congressmen! They need to know your thoughts.
Dear birtheronthegrassyknoll:
Very powerful statistics indeed and I’m sure you have studied the reports in depth rather than just parroting the numbers selectively. You must be aware of mitigating factors, so I’ll just mention two…
Mortality in the US is, tragically, skewed by crime statistics (IE murder per capita. This is an area where our local, state and federal governments SHOULD be engaged, but they see the global climate as a more pressing priority… after buying out banks, running the car industry, etc.
Infant mortality (and you may want to really look into this, because it says something about our culture) is skewed by “heroic measures” that are applied here in the US, but not necessarily applied in other countries.
Always look at the asterick, and always read the supporting studies and you may find that statistics are more complex than the simple numeric value.
I love the Obama zombies who say that this video was unfairly edited. The statements in this video are smoking gun evidence that the Obama “public option” is a trojan horse for the single payer AKA government run healthcare system that Democrats have been salivating over for decades. In any context these statements are damning and contradictory to what Obama has been saying for the last two plus months. Just admit it. Acting like the Dems don’t want a single payer system shows either dishonesty or stupidity.
“In Canada we have a universal healthcare system ,”
Because you SPONGE off the US system where the companies can recover the costs of the R&D to make the
miracle pills that you demand so cheaply.
Your nation, Canada, says “it only costs you X to manufacture, so we’ll pay Y”
When our nation finds a bigger, freer, richer, more prosperous nation to ’sponge’ off of like Canada
does to us, who will help advance medicine more, we’ll do the same thing as Canada does.
I suppose one (for instance, Diana Powe) could take the prepackaged out and claim the video before us is perniciously edited so as to create maximum negative effect, but Obama explicitly stated he favors a single-payer, government run health care system. Do you contend that the editors of this movie altered the very words that we heard from Obama’s mouth? Obama is a socialist, plain and simple, and he and his sycophants will continue to bring America to the brink of European socialism unless and until they are removed from office.
If you want a perfect example of Obamabots, just read the posts of Larse and Diane Powe’s posts. You two make your messiah VERY proud!
The editing was to get all the quotes in. Obama and his socialist put their cards on the table and they want private competition out so they can be in control of our lives. HE is a socialist…a pathetic joke of a human!! We have to fight now!! He is a sociopath! Up until now, all the uneducated libs (like most) tried to downplay socialism by calling us crazy. Now, it is clear and they don’t joke about it anymore…they know it. All he knows how to do is campaign…that is ALL he knows how to do. He is a JOKER.
Richard, what is your specialty? What kind of practice are you in? Do you see any cancer patients? Do you see any illegal aliens? Have you worked in a VA hospital?What is your opinion on investigational chemotherapy regimens? How many MRI machines are in Canada?How many people in Britain die awaitng treatment for problems addressed here in days?Finally-what is happening to the supply of British doctors and what percentage are FMG?
This man and his band of thieves haven’t told the public the truth since day one
This is no secret. I’ve have never met encountered and situation where Medicare wasn’t accepted and I’ve been taken care of my 85 year old aunt for the last 10 months. Scoail Security and Medicare have literally been effortless while the “Private Insurance” administers have been nothing but endless phone calls and paperwork. It took 3 months and 6 follow-up calls just to get her address changed correctly with the Private Insurance. For the life of me, I can’t figure out what the Insurance Companies “actually” do besides “push paper” and add 35 cents to ever dollar. Why all these comments are hell bent on defending United Healthcare’s CEO 1.2 billion dollar annual salary is beyond me. With regards to tort reform, the problem with malpractice starts with..er…MALPRACTICE not the legal ramifications of malpractice. DUH
Why does Obama and the DEMOCRATS lie so much. I am tired of DEMOCRAT lies.
DaveR, don’t give up the fight brother. Let us all fight like hell to the very end. Call your Reps and senators NOW and let them know what you think of them trying to socialize this great country of ours. The majority of people don’t want this, and these elitist must hear from us.
I hate National Socialism.
What a liar. The President is a liar.
This video only highlights what Obama has been pushing regarding his Utopian socialized health care plan. A plan that WILL include tens of millions of Illegal lawbreakring foreigners in our land.
This man is not evil or uneducated, it is even worse, he is blissfully naive on so many issues, the health care is now a stark aspect of his naivity. His other agendas seem to fit this same mentality including his apologetic foreign policy.
The editing is cutting to the chaste on what his bottom line is.
Those edits pretty much are stand alone comments, that even when taken out of context, mean just what he says.
you doubters and Obama sympathizers make it sound like he said something prior to it, like….. “let me be clear, we are NOT trying to put the private insurance companies out of business, nor do we want to..”
followed by, “we hope that it becomes a single payer system, so hopefully 10-15 years down the road we will be….
same thing!
he is trying to eliminate the private insurance companies….
example: police taped confessions have the suspect going through his day up to the killing and all through the killing. if they edited out when he said he stopped at the quik chek and bought a soda, then said, that was when he decided to kill someone with a knife, and then admitted, I took the knife to his throat and killed him.
you would claim, he’s innocent because they only played the part where he wielded the knife and took the knife to his throat?
the rest was exposition! get a clue!
Obama = joker
The part I love best is that people like larse still dont want to see the pink elephant in the room.
Hey, look at it this way…maybe he is right. Think through our history…..every time the .gov gets its hands into something and adds a big dose of regulation it becomes an overnight success! ….wait….
I saw this headline on http://www.AmericanParchment.com and it did not surprise me one bit. I saw all these clips a long time ago and now they have put them together. Collector of these clips… Priceless. Obama’s Health Care… Deadly Price.
I bet the mainstream network media NEVER shows this!
Is this not enough proof that he DOES want to eliminate private insurance?
If not, you’re drinking too much Obama Kool-Aid!
Quit screaming socialism. We already have evil socialist programs like public schools where you pay taxes and
send your kids to learn from state-paid employees. Don’t forget about police officers that make their salaries
from the tax dollars you pay. When someone robs your house the police dont send you a bill to go after them…
it’s paid for by the state. How about the post office? You pay your $0.42 and send a letter from LA to NY in 3
days. Those are all evil socialist programs ladies and gentlemen.
Oh!Bama, the liar, makes Al Gore, the liar, look like a saint. We have finally met our enemy. It is the President of the United States.
Birther – Those are nice statistics but they do not tell the whole story. Check out the following post. It is a synopsis of a book called The Top Ten Myths of American Health Care by Sally C. Pipes:
http://changewedontneed.blogspot.com/2009/07/top-ten-myths-of-american-health-care_5715.html
Here’s an excerpt from it about the statistics you’ve posted.
As for the statistics about life expectancy and infant mortality there are many factors that influence these numbers. The author calls these numbers “crude indicators” that “don’t reflect the quality of a health care system”. Life expectancy is influenced by a variety of factors including the homicide rate and accident rates. America’s homicide rate was 5.9 per 100,000 in 2004 versus 1.95 in Canada. We also had 14.24 fatalities per 100,00 people from auto accidents in 2006 versus 9.25 in Canada (p. 132). These numbers, although not good, impact the life expectancy numbers. And the infant mortality rate is reported by the individual countries. The US follows the World Health Organization’s definition of a live birth as being ‘any infant that, once removed from its mother, “breathes or shows any other evidence of life such as beating of the heart …” ‘ (p. 133). Other countries are more conservative in their definitions. This causes the numbers for those countries to be higher and make the numbers look better. Talk about comparing apples and oranges and deciding that we are inferior. It’s amazing what you can do with numbers.
Why don’t liberals post rankings for cancer survival rates, doctors per capita, waiting times for various procedures or access to leading edge medicine? They don’t because these numbers do not support their goal of a single-payer system. They instead claim it will be health-care-for-all but in reality it will be shared-misery-for-all.
If we really want “real” reform we’d be discussing tort reform, expanding Health Savings Accounts, changing the tax code so that individuals get the same tax breaks as companies when buying their insurance, making it possible to buy health insurance across state lines and reducing the number of mandates that insurance companies have to meet. These are some of the things that would truly reform health insurance and make it more affordable. For the truly needy uninsured, vouchers could be given to give them the freedom to buy a health insurance policy of their choosing. We need to put more power into the hands of the people, not the government.
Government healthcare and insurance is good enough for our military and veterans, but it isn’t good enough for you?
For those who challenge Obama’s citizenship, do some research–your challange denegrates the children born to military personnel serving overseas. A U.S. parent and a foreign parent and a child born at a foreign hospital still equates to a natural U.S. citizen.
I saw this video on http://www.AmericanParchment.com and was not suprised one bit. I have seen these clips before, I think on the same site but never put together. So all I have to say is: Collector of these clips… Priceless, Obama’s Health Care… Deadly Price Tag. Let us stand up and fight.
Why do you liberals even live in the US? If socialism /communism is what you want, why don’t you go to Europe and enjoy it?
The specific audiences in the montage are quite telling.
Why is it that politicians in general, and Obama specifically, are vague and general when speaking to the nation, but quite willing to provide detail to select and sympathetic audiences.
Surely even the most devout idealogue knows that we are condescended to “for our own good”.
Healthcare reform WILL lead to govt run healthcare. Hear Obama say in his own words. You gotta see this!!! The guys at Freedom and Liberty were talking about this this morning too. Check them out, they are hilarious local guys!!
http://freedomlibertyshow.com/2009/08/caught-in-his-lies-o-no/
Still glad you gave “THE JOKER” an Honorary Degree, Notre Dame?
Any politician that votes for the government option will be the first to enroll in it and receive services from it.
It’s simple: if you vote for it for us you have to be willing to subject yourself to it as well.
“I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately.”
Communist and a liar.
I wish Liberals would move to the socialist paradise in Cuba and leave the rest of us alone.
Thank you LEFTIST MEDIA, for giving the USA this FOOL!!
Has your “White Guilt” been assuaged yet?
To all the liberals screaming that this is some sort of “edit job” to mislead people, I challenge you.
Step up and explain how the editing in any way misrepresented Obama’s, Frank’s, Schankowski’s intent. Please explain to us just how those passages could be made to sound any better with context.
And by all means, feel free to link to the original, unedited videos you’ve obviously seen and memorized.
Thank you.
Obama is a usurper who is not constitutionally qualified to be president of the United States.
Richard, what is your specialty?
It doesn’t matter what Obungo does, and He knows it…………..He is king, and you are a peasant.
I love the Canada/US, pro gov’t. healthcare arguements – they really show how the libs institute the drone talking points to their masses. With Westchester County on Long Island having more MRI units than the ENTIRE country of Canada, how can any thinking person spend time comparing quality of healthcare??
How about the lib actress DYING in Canada because even with her millions she had no access to either proper helicopter life flight nor an MRI. Had she been skiing in NY, she probably be ranting on MSNBC about the ‘merits’ of government run healthcare…
Are at least half of the Americans in this country THAT STUPID to think that this guy would have done any different?? Elections have consequences. NO ONE vetted this guy properly. NO ONE asked the right questions except conservative talk radio and TV. Everyone was so anti-Bush they voted against the party instead of really looking at the candidates. McCain wasn’t that much better but “more of the same” would have been MUCH better than this radical extremist! Man, people better wake up from The Matrix and get their heads out of the sand before it’s too late – if it’s not already. If you voted for this guy and the LIBS in Congress, YOU have contributed to this destruction of American sovreignty and the downfall of this country!
“The ones” security detail could solve much of this problem immediately.
Please see my HEALTH CARE proposal at this site – http://www.LIVESHOT.cc
I SERVED IN VIETNAM.
Those of us in our 60’s were greatly cheered when communism was mostly defeated, in our life time, around the world. We thought it was a permanent and final death. Never dreamed our own country would be facing its resurrection. Saw Obambi as a communist when running for president. Couldn’t believe others didn’t see it and that he got elected. Communists can never gain power by being truthful. There is not one shred of honesty or truth in anything he says. He is the most skilled liar ever. His agenda hides behind lying rhetoric. If he succeeds generations to come will have to give their blood for what this generation is so easliy signing off to this evil president. Health care is just one little step in his march to destroy this country.
This huge push for universal healthcare has nothing to do with us and everything to do with the unions – Obama’s best friends………..
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/08/03/why-krogers-grocery-store-obama/
This should not surprise any of us. Obama is not hiding is true identity. He warned us but we failed to listen. Now his administration is saying there is no guarantee taxes wont go up.
http://www.wethepeoplenews.com/2009/08/02/obama-officials-no-guarantee-taxes-wont-go-up/
We have homemade charity jars in liquor stores to collect money for sick people. This is not a “healthcare system.” I hope we DO euthanize this asinine “system” of healthcare. Bring on single payer. NOW.
newest comments should display at the top, not the bottom of the list
@ Bugsbugsy – dude, I believe China is still communist. Hardly defeated.
Barry’s Kenyan Certificate of Live Birth was Certified on Feb, 17th, 1964
So your statements above, through your own ignorance, shows that this is NOT a fake, and IS the real deal (see below)
What has happened because of the power grabs by the elite is that people are waking up. You can’t stop it or change it once that happens. This country needs a peaceful revolution and a strong one. These jerks would kill half of us for 2 dollars and not miss a minutes sleep over it.
Bet you or I couldn’t lie like that for anything. Especially on TV and without a tele-prompter.
When Oblama and his cronies in the congress scrap THEIR healthcare plan and go with the one they are proposing for the REST OF US, then maybe, just maybe, they will have some credibility on this. Not until! But even then, I would be against it because it is not really about health “care”; it is about CONTROL over our lives. Think about it: the food police to keep us from eating what we want in the name of preventive medicine, the medicine police to tell doctors which ones they may prescribe, the government counsellors to counsel people over 65 about the ‘end of life’ options. And the list goes on. How STUPID and FOOLISH are those who believe in this man actually cares about people’s health!
I have been to Europe and lived there for two years the first time, 2002-2004, and again 2006-2007.
I have seen first hand what “national health care” is like, and I believe that the only way for these touchy-feely morons to undertsand is to actualy have to live there.
I also believe that there is no way to convince these mentally undernurished morons of anything!, they are incapable of understanding!, dambed down for two and half generations, they are no longer what we use to call “Americans”.
Therefore, I personally wish, that the “democ-rats” are successful and get ALL their nightmare scenarios passed!, and I would like to sit back and watch these intelectual midgets whine all the way to their potter’s field graves!.
I would suffer right along with them just to see this happen.
What Obama wants Obama gets. It does not really matter if you like the language, the method,the editing. This Health thing is going to go through regardless of what you say. Go ahead and rant like a little baby.You are about as limp as the “Christian Church”.
Let the Obama impeachment proceedings begin!! The charge? Malfeasance, of course!
Dishonest editing????? DISHONEST EDITING????? WHAT ABOUT MICHAEL MOORE
– OUR JUNIOR LENI RIEFENSTAHL? AND LET’S NOT FORGET AL GORE AND HIS CAREFULLY EDITED PROPAGANDA VIDEO? Obviously it is perfectly ok for socialist democrats to package their “truths” anyway they see fit. But when the fecal matter is slung back at them, they CAN’T TAKE IT. Infants!
Obama is a slave. He is owned by SEIU. They paid $70 million to his coffers and he is now their property.
I would do the same thing as President. I’m frustrated paying $13K/yr for insurance and not using it. We need to knock it down by 40% by eliminating the insurance middlemen. Also my French and Canadian friends like their system. Let’s give it a try for 10 years and then revisit the decision.
Well Good. Public health insurance is a lot different than public health care, btw.
Can anyone say TAX HIKE for the masses. Just checking….
This is why this country is so messed up … some idiots do an unfair edited video …. and other idiots just go along with it and believe it. Do you idiots have half a brain to think for yourselves and realize that they edited that video and essential just made it a lie?…. half of the people here are just mad that the president is black… the real enemy of the American people are the greedy rich people that control the republican party and the conservative right and play to people’s racism and fears in order to keep the working class that…… a working class … while they get richer at the expense of America’s competitive edge in the world… wake up racist idiots
The reason canada, UK, et al, can try their social health experiments is because the United States funds their military protection, you simpletons.
If they had to defend themselves, it would not even be close to tolerable.
P.S. It is true… everyone who posts in defense of the fraud-in-chief is on his payroll.
It is very easy to see that only obama’s blind supporters want this and the majority of America is against this crappy idea. Why are Obama and the democrats so arrogant??
Can you believe the same bunch of jerks, that for 8 years, accused President Bush of everything but taking the Lindbergh baby…can’t stand to have THEIR OWN WORDS thrown back in their face? Free speech is only welcomed when it agrees with liberals…other wise shut up. We’re being ‘un-American’ when we criticize the emperor-in-chief, but it was PATRIOTIC to criticize Bush. HUH????? You can’t write HYPOCRITES in big enough letters to do the creeps justice. And btw, when are we going to be treated to all the jokes on late-night about Nobama’s cocaine use? They’re STILL attacking Bush for his problems in his younger days.
Hey – keep your FILTHY COMMUNIST HANDS off off of my inusrance and stay the eff ut of my medical records you lousy piece of Marxist trash. Now this “thing” wants to raise the middle class’s taxes today, what a F’ING LIAR this thing is! “It” needs to be thrown out of office and soon before IT turns this country into a 3rd world HOLE.
In 2010, Yes We Can… http://www.DumpChrisDodd.com …YES WE CAN!!
We are the ones, we’ve been waiting for…to VOTE HIM OUT!
I think people are confused. The President has never suggested a nationalized “health delivery system”, but rather a nationalized “health payment system” (i.e., single payer)…big difference. Also, this whole “socialism” argument is just an updated form of McCarthyist, cold-war era red-baiting…it should be obvious that any civilized culture is going to have some mix of strategies…what, should we get rid of “socialized” military protection? Suppose we get rid of “socialized” education? Anyone ready to fire their “socialized” fire departments? In one form or another, the experts agree that single payer really is the only way out of the current morass of competing profit-hungry tinpot dictatorships called insurance companies. It’s unfortunate that the President has been backed into a corner where he has to resort to the “public option” strategy to get through the reform that would really count…and if it really is cheaper, and impossible to compete with, doesn’t that seem to say that’s the way to go…using a free market argument? Think about it….
Pelosi and other Democrats have been screaming at the top of their lungs about the
profits of the insurance industry. Do you want a broke insurance company trying to
pay out your claims??!!! Unlike MEDICARE, which is BROKE!!! Insurance companies
have to be profitable and the more profitable the BETTER you DUNDERHEADS!! Ever
heard of AM Best Ratings?? It’s tells the financial strength of insurance companies
and what their claims paying ability is going forward. It’s also an indicator of how
well they handle preventive care (in regard to health insurance companies). You want
insurance companies to be flush with cash, that is a GOOD thing.
How well has the government ever managed money?? I would love an example.
You need to only look as far as Washington to understand why healtht insurance premiums
are so high. Business property and casualty premiums are extremely competitive right
now. WHY you ask?? Because of COMPETITION!! Those markets are wide open across the
country and have created a wonderful market for businesses looking for coverage.
Better hope Washington doesn’t target them next!
My FREEDOM is not going to be stolen to support the welfare of another US citizen. America was not made great by stealing from one group to give to another no matter how much or how little the other has. The war against poverty has been a huge failure. I have paid for medicare/medicaid all my life and it is bankrupt. Social security will be bankrupt as well. These are all DEMOCRAT programs that have FAILED. Healthcare will be more of the same.
way to take Barack’s comments out of context.
Proves conservatives are trying to lie to America.
For the record Im a register independent centrist who will only vote for the good of the country….Not under anyone’s payroll and not a democrat.
I guess it takes a catastrophic medical emergency for some people to see who is the enemy of this country….when a big chunk of your life savings eventually trickles down to a pharmaceutical executive’s back account in the form of a bonus….. (he will use some of that money for a political contribution)
Im for a free market economy where the people with all the money don’t get to make the rules because they can buy politicians….that is what the present health care system is
I’d hate to be an employee of the health insurance companies. Obama is simply taking all the private insurance and making in governmental; killing the health care jobs for those in the government bureaucracy; and killing the high quality health care system already in place. He doesn’t allow for the fact that most countries having nationalized health care have less care and longer waiting; care refusals; and people coming to the United States for health care. If you’re elderly, well, go watch ‘Logan’s Run’ and find out what the government has in store for you. It started somewhere, didn’t it?
Whew… what a relief! Up until these clips, I was afraid our poor, clueless President was being duped by his own party!
I find no comfort in the fact they planned a bait-and switch all along.
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GOOD! I want to see the private health insurance industry destroyed the sooner the better,they are nothing but blood sucking ticks and leeches feeding off human misery and disease.
Obama admitted during the campaign that he supports a single payer system, i.e. Socialized Medicine; and, his “Government Option” is designed to force private insurers out of the market in order to achieve precisely that goal. As Obama said: “I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be potentially some transition process…” Barney Frank then unashamedly admitted that Obama’s “Public Option” was simply a Trojan Horse for surreptitiously introducing full blown Socialized Medicine. The American people have spoken loud and clear that Socialized Medicine is anathema; but, Obama’s Marxist psyche prohibits him from accepting free market reforms which should begin with shutting down illegal immigration and Tort Reform, both of which Obama unconditionally rejects. Obama’s ACORN is busily registering illegals; and, Trial Lawyers are among his principal campaign contributors. But the most insidious part of Obama’s plan is the coming bureaucratic denial of life saving procedures for the elderly. As Obama says: “Take an aspirin” and just wait to die. ( Pg 30: SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.AND, PG 430: SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.) The elderly should revolt over Obama’s health care proposals. He learned from his wife Michelle that considerable sums of health care funds could be saved by the practice of “patient dumping” which Michelle employed in Chicago. And, just remember that Obama and his Congressional colleagues have EXEMPTED themselves from compliance with their own proposed health care debacle. Greg Neubeck
REFORM healthcare already!
People always get what they deserve!, and the great unwashed want freebies!.
Read a little history, the Geeks,Romans,French,Spanish,English,and lastly let’s not forget the RIP “soviet union”, they all got what they deserved!.
So come and enjoy your third world status now, we there already, we don’t have to wait and see!.
This is unreal shocking proof Obama is NOT an American….
It is laughable that people see this and go on about how edited the video is, blah, blah. Of course it is edited, it is combining several videos from different times showing someones true colors. Obama claims to the public, now that he is president, you can still have your private insurance. However he knows full well that down the line a “government” option will eliminate the public’s choice of a private option. He admits it in his own words and knows he has to sell people on the idea that the public choice of private insurance is not going away because people do not want a government only option. The fact is that once a government only option comes about health care in the USA will be destroyed. You foolish liberals and the rest of you people who do not understand the most basic fact , “The United States has the BEST health care in the world!”. You will understand all too late when you wait for months to see a doctor, when you are denied life saving surgery or pain medication or anything because your value is not sufficient to warrant the surgery, you will understand just how foolish you’ve been.
Your only hope is for this nonsense to be stopped now.
This man is a Marxist basturd!!!
@That Guy
How about the “socialized” department of motor vehicles (in NJ you need 7 forms of ID to get a license). Or “Socialized” V.A hospitals? Ask the vets how they like there care.
OH NO HE DI’INT!!!
Our president is a liar!! Its sad that he is a typical politican on steriods!
Get ready America… finally America is waking up…and speaking… it’s never too late to defeat evil.. it just takes people to stand up and fight. Call your friends and family.. get this video out across America. Even those that voted for Obama see the evil, destruction of America that is on the sunrise…But what Americans must realize is that this is not a movie!!! IT’s the real thing and it’s time to turn off you TV, put down that book and stand up, speak, pray and get out of house to protest!! And let these people also know that there takeover is only for a few days…they WILL be voted out! And NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP!!!
My Specialty? What do i do? Thats kind of an odd question to ask…
Obama is Right…Public Option is only option long-term
PLEASE post these everywhere! He’s a:
sOcialist
dOuche
cOmmie
incOmpetent
idiOt
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You idiots will believe anything that someone edits together from clips that span years, and are taken completely out of context. Pipe down and let the person America elected get to work… in 10 years, when you’ve lost your job as a greeter at Wal-Mart, but you can still afford to get stitches when someone smarter than you finally hits you in the head with a 2×4… you’ll thank him.
Idiots.
ANY government run healthcare plan will drive private insurance out of business. Private insurance companies have to make a profit to stay in business. Not so with the government. They use OUR tax money to run their programs and they need never make a profit. And we will need to be taxed more and more and more to pay for it. Look at Social Security — did the government take our money and invest it to grow it so there’d be money for when we retire? In fact, they spent it as soon as they had it and it won’t be there for many of us when we are ready to retire. The same will hold true for healthcare. The government has proved time and time again that they cannot be trusted with our money – why do we keep giving it to them?!
Due to the ongoing INVASION of the USA, the following AMERICAN CITIZENS, will not be in need of future Health Care.
Exhibit A: http://www.voiac.org
Exhibit B: http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
You, a friend, or family member could be next.
Anyone suprised at anything that comes out about this lying, cheating, criminal bastard?
PUBLIC OPTION NOW!!!!! Go for it Mr. President!!!! WE WANT A PUBLIC OPTION.
Reading the comments I can say is you Obama haters need to get a grip. None of you are brave enough to say what you really feel = “I don’t want a n.i.g.g.e.r. for my president”. Cowards!
And instead of arguing real issues with real substance you cling to blown out of proportion rhetoric. I know you all love shock jocks and reality TV, but it’s not the basis of an effective communication style. Stop with all the made up stuff, argue in reality, not the over the top exaggerations. No one takes you seriously. Your guy lost, get over it.
Lastly, all this stuff about government taking control?? You all probably had no problem with Bush and Co. using our consitution as toilet paper. But now a black man does anything close and your all up in arms. Your white pointy hats are showing.
Folks there is one chance – 2010. Even if this health takeover monstrosity passes, it is not set to go into effect until 2013. This was planned so that no one will be aware how much control the Administration wants to take of our lives until AFTER Obama is safely re-elected in 2012.
Elect new people who will listen to their constituents (we, the people) unlike the Congressman who told his Austin, TX, voters that he would vote for the House Bill even if he found out the majority of his constituents were against it.
These people in Congress think they are our parents and that we are stupid and uninformed and unable to make our own choices. They believe that they have been elected to “take care of us”. We need to get rid of them all — BUT we need to make sure that those we elect to replace them are trustworthy and care for our country as it was set up by our forefathers in the beginning. We need to make sure they believe in term limits and will work to impose them.
Obama has been dishonest with the American public and we cannot afford to allow him or his followers to continue to control our Government or our lives.
WAKEUP! OBAMA WANTS AND PLANS TO HAVE A COMMUNIST STATE!
GET READY TO LOSE ALL YOUR FREEDOM AND THEN ASK YOURSELVES IF THAT’S REALLY THE CHANGE YOU VOTED FOR!
Those who have tragic stories about the insurance companies have a legitimate concern, but do you really believe that those issues will be solved by government? Are you willing to bet YOUR LIFE on it? Do you honestly think the paperwork will dissappear, you’ll always be correctly diagnosed, you will fit into whatever cookie-cutter matrix that some nebulous board created, you’ll have options, etc?
Are you willing to trade yours, and others CHOICE in the matter, on the flimsy claim that all will be better? Even OBAMA says it is more about economics than healthcare… and if you don’t believe me, watch his last national telecast.
HE’s telling you exactly what this is about… do you have the courage to listen and tell him NO?
How much closer do you need the dots put together for you to finally get it? Obama is NOT A MODERATE (which is what he campaigned as), he is a FAR TO THE LEFT LIBERAL who does not have America’s interests at heart.
When Jesus was speaking of the Anti-Christ he spoke in Aramaic….and the words used in his language were Barak Ubama….Check it out…this is true.
Obama IS an Evil Lying Man who learned from the “Evil One” who tempted Jesus Himself in the desert… who’s biggest lie was to convince people that he does not exist… Obama is the SEIU…He Is ACORN…He IS a Marxist and a Liar….He is NOT a Christian…he IS an enemy of the unborn….and Christ.. America….Isreal…and Freedom!
And all his supporters in Congress ,the Media…and the abortionists…the Unions….they liars….are all complicit in his Sins.
We Must open our eyes…our hearts and our souls….and then stand up against this EVIL.
Where was obama born?
Also if you are so set against a public option or single payer socialist style healthcare, than you should be calling for an end to medicare!
Do it. Tell your grand parents no more medicare, “it’s socialist medicine” and government run healthcare. Also you need to get rid of the VA hospitals and VA healthcare – just another socialist heatlhcare…
See what happens when you react without knowing what you’re talking about. At least be coherent with your rants. You can’t pick and choose your socialist issues, or you would be a, a, a, SOCIALIST! Right?
Anyone of you jokers that even thinks for one second that employers wont drop the expense of carrying employees health insurance like a hot potatoe deserves to live in a communist country. All you Obama voters are a bunch of “whats in it for me” morons.
Look how well the Obama administration estimated the cost of “cash for clunkers”…a program that was supposed to last 4 months couldnt even last 4 days.
Also just look at how well run the post office is (bankrupt), medicare (bankrupt), medicade (bankrupt), social security (bankrupt), VA hospitals (would be bankrupt).
Single payer all the way! Do away with these right wing leeches in our society!
When the brain drain starts you’ll see the fence on the Mexican border completed, not to prevent illegals from moving in, but to prevent America’s most productive from moving out. When the government fails to
obey or inforce laws on the books, make new laws for the sake of lobbiests, the President a hand puppet of the unseen hand, and the population cheers the failure of the Great American experiment.
The United States and the Soviet Union are in the midst of trading places!
Conservatives and right wingers hate big government. Liberals and lefties hate big business. Greed and corruption run rampant in both so how do you know which to choose between?
Easy. Big Goverment controls the military, so they have guns to enforce what they want.
Liberal talking points 101
1) Video was edited so it makes it false
2) His opinions have changed over time
3) Obama would not coverup his true desires
4) You can trust Obama, he is with the government
5) Hope and change is working
Does name calling come naturally to you liberals, or do you have to work at it? Time and time again, I am amazed that, in the absence of a credible retort, you immediately start calling conservatives names. Is that all you got? It seems you will defend this man at all costs, making yourselves look desperate and panicked. You have hitched your wagon to the wrong horse my friends, see you down the road.
Are you kidding?
Bait-and-switch is THE modus operandi of this administration and Dem Party for that matter. The only way they can push their liberalism through the country: by pretending to be something they aren’t and naive people believing them. Their hearts rule their heads instead of reasonable compromise. We cannot afford this, simple truth. Obama has never said that everyone has the right to the type of medical care Obama’s own money can provide for him and his family, so really, we are not talking about equalizing EVERYONE. The rich will still be able to afford what others cannot. I wonder how many mammograms Michelle Obama has had by her age? In the US, they are recommended yearly after the age of 40. In the UK, the nation screening program provides them once every three years between the ages of 50 and 70. My sister whose breast cancer at age 47 was diagnosed through her yearly screenings would not have been diagnosed until too late had she been in the UK…. What would Michelle do? I wonder how often she has screenings? Which should SHE set an example for…. the yearly US screenings… is that DEFENSIVE MEDICINE???… or the cost-saving riskier screening rate of the UK?
Chicago style gangster. What have WE being telling you all for almost a year? He and his lie!!!
Hey Duke it was edited but maybe you should do a little more research on your own. You can’t count on the mainstream media like they hounded the Republicans, you have to educate yourself. He’s a community organizer in the Chicago style of politics. His friends are radicals and he was an officer of ACORN and the other affiliated entities. Look at the background of the “Czars” he appointed that I know even you didn’t vote for. Look at the radical ideas of his science czar his most recent appointee. Don’t get caught with your pants down to much is at stake. Unless your a plant like so many of his so called town meetings are plants.
Here is another great side benefit of the “Public” Option…. on covering the poor. Which you bleeding hearts are so willing to open up everyone else’s wallets to do. Let me ask you this…
If I went out today and picked up 6 homeless people and dropped them on your doorstep, would you feed, clothe, and shelter them? Oh and also pay for thier health insurance? Becuase if we were to belive 0bama’s numbers on the “uninsured” that is EXACTLY what you would do….
I bet not…
What do you think the chances of seeing CBS, NPR et al. covering this?
Your public option is assisted suicide. You’re long dead and gone you still be paying taxes. You idiots!
All ACORN trolls here claim video is “dishonestly edited”, but NEVER say how the message is wrong. There is a difference between editing for time and editing for spin. This is NOT altering the fact that Obama and the Dems WANT SINGLE-PAYER. THEY ARE DEMONIZING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES NOW. (This is what you do if you are a Dem, and the people are ANGRY at you for trying to ruin their private insurance and make health-care decisions for you through Gov’t health-care!)
Again, THE DEMS NEW TACTIC IS TO MAKE VILLIANS OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES! They want to turn people against these companies so the people will want “honest” and “non-greedy” GOVERNMENT health care. LOL!!!!! OMG, they really do THINK WE’RE STUPID!!!!!!!
Send them all a message in 2010! Tell them “Up yours! YOU’RE THE STUPID ONES! WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR US! NOT YOU!! PACK YOUR STUFF AND GET OUT, SOCIALISTS!”
Drooling larse and other idiot liberals are upset that after editing of Obama’s videos some of the truth managed to be left in. Now let MSNBC edit your videos and we will be sure to get the whitewashed dumbed down version of the truth that is pablum enough for even Larse to enjoy.
ROFLMAO… I can wait for 0bama to tax every worker to heck to support “the poor”. Im quitting my job and going to JULIE’s house for my handouts
“Julie S August 3rd, 2009 – 11:54 am
Single payer all the way! Do away with these right wing leeches in our society!”
faamecanic – nicely said!!
To Rosem,
“Obama voters: thank you for this. Keep those Obama ‘08 stickers on your cars, you we can identify you and
perhaps thank you personally”
Please don’t tip them off… hopefully they will not try to hide their collective guilt.
This shows how the Democrats, and especially Obama, are liars, snakes and scoundrals of the worst sort. Obama claimed that his Government health care would only be part of the solution while all the time it was just one more step in a strategy to transform the USA into a socialist state. Obama is an evil liar.
One way to contain the health costs is to hire Ted Kennedy as an ambulance driver. These goons do nothing but lie, lie, lie.
Grant:
Typical Maroon liberal – just because people disagree with the President they become racists?? I think it’s best you stick with watching cartoons all day and tell mommy you’re not ready to move onto main stream society.
All you folks who work hard at your insurance company jobs now know you are the enemy in true Chicago thug politics fashion. O’bammy will use public tax money to drive private insurance companies underusing YOUR money to kill a company you may be prefectly happy with, THEN they will tell you “better vote for US or your healthcare will turn into “end of life counseling”. This is a POWER PLAY and somewhere up the line at the political hack level in O’bammyCare there WILL be people looking at how you vote and to whom you contribute. Oh, NO, you say, they wouldn’t do that with health care would they … laff koff gag hack, ther’re from CHICAGO. Since when has a goverrnment with an endless supply of tax money EVER run anything efficiently?
After reading these comments, I think we should be spending major major money on education. My gosh this is scary.
Should we just leave the healthcare system the way it is? Canada has great healthcare. There are problems. But you don’t go bankrupt when you are struck with sickness. Google recission people. Our insurance companies are FOR-PROFIT. That means they do what they can to make money, not take care of patients.. Its really not that complicated. Stop the wackyness and read a book people.
Obama is more than a socialist. Socialists are still multiple parties. No, he’s a fascist!
“READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES!”
Hrmmmm guess Obama and George Sr. have a lot in common!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_economy
Ha ha! I love it yet again the middle class is going to take it up the arse!
WAKE UP ALL OF YOU! Dems, Repubs, ALL of them liars, hypocrites and cheats.
here a BIGGER shocker from the LIAR:
see ‘my muslim faith’ at you tube
This isn’t new, some of us did our homework over a year ago and have tried to warn people about this communist regime.
Typical of “the one”. He is a cold, evil, smiley faced dictator. Perhaps now people will look at this regime and their true agenda!
Under Obama’s DEATH PLAN, our health care system will be destroyed and that Hitler like “end of live counseling”, under the DEATH CZAR means this regime will determine who should live and die.
Suggestion: Perhaps these politicians need a little end of career counseling!
BIT BY BIT THE WHITEWASHING OF OBAMA IS STARTING TO FADE LEAVING BEHIND THE NAKED SOCIALIST LIAR
He lied. We know he lied. He knows he lied. Now the people know he lied. Can we IMPEACH HIM NOW and the other Dems before it’s too late?
Obama’s gaining power by deceit, which is exactly what he did, is not a legitimate part of the democratic process. Rather, it is a a form of warfare and no different to how Hitler took over Germany. He was helped by Hollywood and th erest of the media. The only thing we can do now is to retake the White House and Congress and then use the Government to uncover the criminal activities investigate Obama, beginning from his birth-certificat fraud, try him for espionage and then deal with him in accordance with Federal law, even if it means a life prison term.
Everything the government touches is quickly debt-ridden. Name one thing the federal government does efficiently AND underbudget? Times up…NOTHING!!!
Oh yeah, one thing Obama doesn’t say is that among those 47 million without healthcare are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
julie..”Single payer all the way! Do away with these right wing leeches in our society!”
You are retarded.
Look at the paid trolls post like mad! You can just imagine the marching orders!
“Accuse those opposing Obama’s plans of being racist. Tell them you think they aren’t comfortable with a black in the White House. Use inflammatory language.”
“Tell them you are a blue-collar worker who wants a single-payer system. Post about a made-up experience where your insurance company screwed you over. Demonize the insurance companies.”
“Marginalize the anti-health care reform protesters as racists, health care industry employees, insurance company employees, secessionists or right-wing fringe elements.”
“Post as a Canadian who has recieved great service from Canada’s health care system.”
“Post as a veteran who has received wonderful care from the VA.” (All veterans will LAUGH at this!)
“Post as an elderly person who has received wonderful care from Medicaid/Medicare.”
Stupid liberal ACORN trolls. Your party is comitting suicide. How’s THAT for an “end of life issue”?!? Dems will be pariahs for decades. Never again will they be trusted. Good riddance!! Buy plenty of Kleenex for 2010 and 2012, evil Socialist America-haters!
GW 41 legacy = Gulf War/breaking campaign promise
Clinton legacy = Philandering
Bush legacy = War on Terror / making up funny words in speeches
Obama legacy = socialism / dishonesty???
Oberon said “[w]hy is there greater longevity in those countries with your so-called “socialist” health care plans? Are you really so against universal single-payer health care that you’d rather die than live longer and better because a government-run program is socialistic?” Hey genius, ever hear of the fact that there are differences in the culture, such as diet, that make a difference? And by the way, yes, I’d rather die than live socialist, you pinko scum.
If you’re going to compare HEALTH CARE outcomes, and not just who lives longer (and we’re not talking decades here), then look at the differences that HEALTH CARE actually affects, such as cancer survival. Or maybe you could look at the wait times for doctor’s appointments and tests, such as MRIs. Here’s a hint for you: in the “free” health care systems of England and Canada, they’re FAR longer. And you know what else? Even if universal (government-forced-down-your-throat) health care was “better,” I’d still rather not have it.
It’s about freedom. All you pro-choice (to kill babies) liberals always yell about your rights, but you don’t understand the meaning of the word freedom. “Live free or die.” Look that up, liberals. Maybe I’d live longer if the government dictated my diet. Maybe I’d live longer if the government dictated we all ride bikes instead of driving, or lowered the speed limit to 40, or made us wear protective gear every time we left the house. In fact, I’m SURE we would. The fact that I refuse to live that way or “would rather die” than live like Hitler Youth doesn’t make me “sick,” Oberon.
It makes me American.
TO IDIOT SHOCKED.
Not only are insurance companies in it for the money
But so are HOSPITALS, DOCTORS, LAWYERS
and even squirrels like YOU.
“Yes We Can?”
DON’T YOU DARE!!!
Obama says whatever he thinks necessary at any given time.
He obviously does not have any respect for “we the people” or
this great nation – he lies and does not even feel it necessary to explain his changes in thoughts and/or ideas. His aim is to remake the United
States to suit the ideas drilled into his mind for
many, many years by anti-Americans.
So Obama is the anti-christ? Obama is not a citizen? Obama is a facist? Socialist? Geez..
With people thinking like this no wonder we are in the mess we are in – two wars, healthcare catastrophe, finanical calamity, education depreciation… Wake up. STOP THE FEAR and start making this nation great again. People like the folks on this comment section scare me more than our ELECTED President.
faamecanic – Absolutely right. I pay 20% of my own premium, there is no doubt from a business stand point that every company will drop the public’s private choice for a “government” option and save that 80% per employee, while at the same time, no one will get that 80% put in their pay, and everyone’s taxes will go up to pay for the plan. On top of that, any increased taxes on businesses will mean higher costs at the pump, at the grocery store, for everything, everywhere.
Look at the cash for clunkers! A joke! You take a perfectly good car in some cases, and you trade it in for DEBT! Some of the clunkers aren’t worth keeping, but yet again, your trading it in for DEBT. Remember the digital converters? Simple boxes, not worth much in reality, the lowest price? $49.99 in most cases. Why? Government coupon of $40.00 + the $9.99 they can take from you.
That cash for clunkers money is coming from OUR taxes, those TRILLONS of dollars that will destroy the country is coming out of our pockets, or being printed meaning what we have is comparable to monopoly money, it soon will be worth as much at the rate things are going. Foolish liberals, foolish liberals, your only goal is to make everyone suffer the same, and improve nothing for no one.
Why don’t you morons wake up? Half of these bogus posts are done by reps from the insurance companies. How many of you ignorant morons think that insurance companies don’t rip you off.
Getreal.. or get lost.
Obama did not bow to the Saudi king dictator, ignore your own eyes. Obama did not say these things, the evil Repubs must have edited the clip. I know it was a voice over. By the way, the US did not land on the moon either, and the earth is not round.
I can’t wait to vote out my Democratic Rep in PA…Patrick Murphy is blind to the feelings in his district.
Are you serious? This person put a collection of videos together and added his own take on it to make it sound like this, which is not accurate.
While Obama may favor it, he hasn’t implemented that, he has LET CONGRESS DECIDE! Because he believes that is what is best for the American people, not just one person making the decisions, ala BUSH!
Don’t blame me, I voted for Coolidge!
No Revolution has ever happened using just words.
Keep the government’s hands off my Medicare!
This is not a racial or a ration issue? At what cost to your mama and papa, even you will be denied hip replacement, etc, etc? Will Obama’s plan deny crack babies care over you at any of today’s cost? Today estimated at two million dollars for three months of hospital care, per crack. Two 2 billion dollars in 1992, in today’s dollars?
‘Crack babies’ catch up
By DANA KENNEDY, The Associated Press, 12/6/92
“The first wave of crack-exposed children entered first and second grades in New York City this fall, a year after one state report estimated the cost of special care for them could total $2 billion over the next 15 years. Harlem Hospital researchers estimated that the cost of caring for crack babies costs the country $500 million a year. Such statistics have fed the kind of fear that led Ross Perot to invoke the dread specter of “crack babies” during the first presidential debate.
“Again and again and again, the mother disappears in three days and the child becomes a ward of the state because he’s permanently and genetically damaged,” Perot said. “
Sorry SHOCKED – What I meant is that my argument is really kinda silly. I don’t know what I am talking about. Many Doctors become doctors to help people, as are hospitals and lawyers. I am silly and probably haven’t finished high school because I resort to name calling to have arguments.
He is going to eliminate private insurances “profit” and going to make them “compete” against the government, who can price fix to whatever price they pull out of their butt. Only a complete idiot would think that private insurance wouldn’t go out of business.
Sadly, the current state of the typical democrat voter, is barely above catatonic.
Shocked – There you go again. In the absence of a credible retort, you attack writing skills? This is exactly how Obama got elected – He looks good, he speaks well, blah, blah. Did you listen carefully to his “speaking”? He said nothing. And what little he did say, either someone else wrote for him, or he made up–very badly I might add. If you really were a thinking person, you could see and hear what his agenda really is–half of America saw and heard it. And, this is the half, plus those that now realize what a huge mistake they made, that will kick him and his mob to the curb in 2012.
HERES THE LIAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M&feature=related
TROJAN HORSE ALL RIGHT
Stupid ACORN trolls demonize insurance company profits.
COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE PROFITS. The quest to make profits mean they COMPETE for customers, and they must provide THE BEST SERVICE to get those customers!!!
If single-payer exists, there is NO competion, NO place for dis-satisfied customers to go, and service can stink. Too bad for you!
Old people will be told “you’ve lived a long life. Stop being selfish and using up money we could spend on others. Maybe it is time for you to die.”
Liberals are EVIL PEOPLE. They lie. They want power for power’s sake. They do not serve the people. They serve THEMSELVES! They are DESTRUCTIVE. They abort unwanted, inconvenient babies. They destroy unwanted, inconvenient cars, and the will euthanize unwanted, inconvenient elders.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ANGRY! NO MORE LIBERALISM! NO MORE SOCIALISM! NO MORE EVIL!
The Obama also said ..
He wants a Civilian Force .. equally as well traimed as the military, equally as well funded, and equally as well armed.
Why? To what end?
Obviously digitally altered, just like the nonsense of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank supporting Fannie and Freddie, George Bush and conservatives stating before Congress and others that action needed to be taken to prevent a financial meltdown, this is just propaganda!!! Obama didn’t say this, nor did the Congresscritter. This is George Bush and Dick Cheney’s fault!! Either that or blatant racism. Where are my reparations anyway??? Move on Wingnuts, we won!!
Anyone who isn’t sure what to believe just needs to read some of the comments here.
Even when using Obama’s own words, Obama supporters tell us we’re just trying to “scare people”.
Really? Is that really the kind of President we elected? One that can’t EVER be believed? That’s the type of person you want to have controlling EVERY aspect of your life?
Obama’s IQ is 92 at best. He can’t help it. He THINKS he is doing the right thing, his little pea brain just can’t see the big picture.
I can never quite understand why people fear the government bureaucrats more than they fear the corporate bureaucrats. I mean, they’re both gonna screw you somehow, so I’d rather just opt for the government, which at least has the pretense of being ‘for the people,’ instead of ‘for the money.’
I am sorry I haven’t read a book in a while, but I do listen to Hannity and Beck and what they are saying is that we need to take back America. Yes, I am serious.
Richard “I am a physician” what is your specialty? If you can’t answer that,how can you be a physician?You have not answered any of the questions that I have posted.What does PERRLA mean? What does WNL mean?Who is Roy Basch?
OBAMA LIED THE ECONOMY DIED
Shocked – you again? Stop using my name to post, very sad but predictable. See you down the road.
Did we really need this video to understand that a government takeover was the ultimate objective? Clearly Obama flat out lies whenever necessary because he knows the “mainstream” media will cover for him. How many radical, Marxist associates does one need to have to convince people that this guy is a Marxist bent on socializing the US and DESTROYING capitalism.
I have two more years of Med school to go. I will not want to practice here under a single-payer system. I won’t be reimbursed properly without spending most of my time wading through paperwork. And I think I should make decisions with my patients about their treatment, NOT be required to consult with the government bureaucrats regarding what I can and cannot proscribe.
“READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES!”
Hrmmmm guess Obama and George Sr. have a lot in common!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_economy
Ha ha! I love it yet again the middle class is going to take it up the arse!
Obama CAMPAIGNED on NO TAXES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS!!! So I don’t EVER want to hear another Democrat or Liberal bash ANYONE for being a liar because as usual with ALL politicians on BOTH sides of aisle….WORTHLESS LIARS!
Ive never thought I was muslim by mistake, have you??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M&feature=related
If he’s lying that deception is pure treason, as muslim use deception to turn US into Europe
lets see, hide muslim from campaign photos, then hide christian symbols when elected; pure apologies to them, lies about our countries heritage, govt secret outreach to muslim, million bucks so far to hide his official papers
see anthing amiss???
I will see you in the parking lot SHOCKED if you keep trying to hijack my name. Again, these kind of antics are childish and the reason we have OBAMA BIN LADEN in the WHITE house. Geez.
Obama is a New World Order puppet. He is simply a mouth-piece for the elite scumbags who are trying to establish a NWO. Please do the research or remain an ignorant sheeple forever….
Google: The Obama Deception
You lefties out there look so pathetic trying to defend this LIAR and FRAUD. We will NEVER forget what you tried to do to this country. We are about to shove your HOPE and CHANGE right back down your throats!
he didnt correct himself!!!!
the sycophantic media did
I laughed out loud every time I read a post complaining about “editing.” This from the people who thought Katie Couric’s editing of Sarah Palin was just fine!
I voted for Obama and thought Bush was stupid. Now I realize that I am the stupid one. I let the news and Obama fool me. Now I am afraid of all the changes being pushed on us. I will never vote for a Democrat again, ever. I am scared and also very angry that my congress people and senators are not listening to me.
To be honest though, I don’t really know or understand the healthcare system. I am not going to school to learn about how to run a practice but to diagnose symptoms and treat people. I also realize that as I may not earn quite as much in a single-payor system. Which is the only reason I became a doctor in the first place.
I have no idea about the paperwork and hassle insurance companies will give my future patients. But I still think I know what I am talking about.
There is a simple solution. Private health insurance companies simply need to create good products to compete with the public option. No, they don’t do that anymore.
Some people comment on this string that they don’t respect the post office, but the people at the post office do a decent job of providing low cost general mail care. I am a package handler at a wonderful company called UPS. We do a superior job of providing big, fast, or special mail care. We compete just fine with the public option. As the mail needs of people change, sometimes it seems like the post office has the upper hand, and recently it seems we do. (as a package handler though, I am only speaking for myself, and not UPS)
There is s big irony. My union-negotiated health care, as well as the union-negotiated health care of the post office, is being mis-used to subsidize emergency room care that should be general care. Even the expensive plans at Fedex are siphoned off this way, and they don’t have a union to protect them. This current situation is taxation without representation.
With an affordable public option, people can buy into the insurance and reduce the amount of money taken from the shrinking number of us that still have health insurance.
So it is not difficult for me to imagine a public option that will cover general health care, and people at private companies doing their best to compete for coverage of big, fast, or special coverage.
“I voted for Obama and thought Bush was stupid. Now I realize that I am the stupid one. I let the news and Obama fool me. Now I am afraid of all the changes being pushed on us. I will never vote for a Democrat again, ever. I am scared and also very angry that my congress people and senators are not listening to me.”
You are an idiot for letting the news fool you. You also are full of crap. But at least you admit you are the stupid one.
Under ObamaCare you will witness the systematic extermination of our senior citizens.
Please tell me what the difference is between this administration and ADOLF HILTER!
Oberon – you really need to understand statistics – other counries do not have longer life spans because they have better health care – it is because they do not have immigration – Japan’s population is almost 100% Japanese – America’s population is what? A mess…and our immigration mess pulls our life span stats down – WHO rated our healthcare deliverables #1 in the world – deliverables is the actual healthcare we receive..they didn’t allow for immigration in life span, ot older mothers or immigration in infant mortality, or the fact that Canada does NO MEDICAL RESEARCH when saying we had higher medical costs than Canada and that Candians hardly ever get to go to the DR so their costs are lower for lack of use (if you don’t drive your car, your gas bill is lower) – so in the end, we got knocked down, but statistics alone mean nothing if you don’t look beyond the numbers..Sweden doesn’t allow illegal immigrants to stay in Sweden, so they don’t have to worry about people who haven’t had immunizations or childhood health care messing up their stats and they allow very few people to legally immigrat, so they don’t have our issues either – insular countries win out in the stats and the costs particularly if they rely on us to do the research…..
War is Peace;
Freedom is Slavery;
Ignorance is Strength!
George Orwell- 1984
the insurance companys are just out for moiney and dont care about patents rights. The government can run things beter. people who dont want health care to be changed are scared of change and are angry about a black man in the whiyte house. I am prouod to be a libral and proud of my country and i want the governemnet to take care of me so i don’t have to worry about anything. ACORN send my check to Ronald Davis, 222 Baker St., HIcksville, NY 11802 THank You
Awww, people! people! Don’t blame Obama! His Teleprompter told him to say these things.
Look at the Barry drones leaving comments about people trying to “scare” them. LoL! You pathetic, mindless drones. Well, Barry did say people were going to try and scare you. If this liberty destroying, socialist power grab of “legislation” doesn’t scare you, you are a lost cause. What’s the next “right” you losers want to vote for yourselves?
Only 7 of 100 Senators have promised to read the Health Care bill! So far 93 of 100 Senators are refusing to do the job they are so well paid for!
Wake up morons! Do you not realize the lobbyists for the AMA and Pharmaseutical Companies desire to maintain the status quo. The ones complaining the most about healthcare have obviously never had to deal with an insurance company who denied their medical claim.
Richard August 3rd, 2009 – 9:45 am
This is not new news. As a physician, I….
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As an Emperor, Napolean Bonapart, I say this poster is full of it-shay. He’s a liberal Obamabot who belongs to the GIMME generation. Pffft!!
NO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE!! IF THEY CAN’T FIX MEDICARE, MEDICAID, THEY SURE AS *ELL CAN’T BE TRUSTED WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
Butch, come one dude. You are joking right? This is not for real is it? Extermination? Wow. Tell you what, prove it and I will buy it.
COMMENT FOR “GRANT” ABOVE.
dude, you are so wrong, so lacking in any productive discussion…so lame of you. reprehensible comment.
Thanks God (Not Al Gore) that we have the internet where we can go back to video snippets of the truth. Politicians like Obama can’t hide behind the media anymore!
so he says: ‘employer based coverage’ will be eliminated and that suddenly becomes ‘private insurance….that’s just poor journalism.
Either way, anybody against socialism or universal health care: please refuse your Medicare coverage today, take you mother/grandmother out of the nursing home (paid for by Medicaid) and return your social security money this week…these are ALL SOCIALIST programs….put your money where your mouth is please!!
Visit your local state run nursing home for a good look at government run healthcare – it’s not that the staff doesn’t want to do a good job – it’s just that there isn’t enough of them with the money – the aroma alone will give you a good idea of what a governement plan means –
And for those of you wh have had a problem with private carriers- it is nothing like trying to change the mind of the government – you can threaten to sue a private carrier or report them to the Insurance Commissioner – what are you going to do about the government – and they DO DENY CLAIMS – all the time- ask soldiers who have been denied treatment for injuries sustained in the line of duty – get a copy of Legionairre magazine – some claims have been pending for decades, this is not an exaggeration, this is your government at work
I just find it humorous that those here painting Obama’s agenda as nothing but lies are the very same ones who would support a continuous MERITLESS ethics charges brought against Palin and the bogus defamatory stories the left is now making up.
It really is simple. When has the government EVER run anything well or TRULY in the black? It hasn’t! Social Security is nothing but a bunch of IOU’s thanks to them sticking their hands in. And people supporting this expect this to auto-magically change in DC? What fairy land do they live in?
Next, we need look no further than Canada and the UK to see how it is turning out for them.
@chamgewedontneed (10:29 am): Dead on in regards to your last paragraph!
Name calling is what I resort to when I am losing an argument or have no facts to base my hard line ideology on. My bad.
Why does this surprise anyone anymore?? Get off your butts and educate anyone who still has a rational thought left in their brain. Get Ziegler’s ‘Media Malpractice’ DVD. It’s a great resource for showing this administrations bias in the media. Watch it and get mad and DO SOMETHING!!
Obama is a liar far beyond the scale that Bush was ever accused of. He’s a chameleon that changed his colors briefly during the campaign to fool the gullible part of the electorate. Now you’re seeing glimpses of what he truly believes in. Thanks Obama-voters!….I have some beachfront property in Arizona if you’re interested?
All you sheep complaining about editing, are you all idiots? Nothing was edited to change Obama’s words. Nothing. It’s not like they took one word from here and another from there to create a fake statement, he actually uttered these words.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
The conservative propagandist are scaring their chickens today. Conservative are ether too stupid or too blinded by racial hatred to see this video is edited to make a point for the insurance industry.
We have chickens here sharpening Col Sanders ax. These insurance companies who had Drudge put out this lie what you to pay premiums and when you get ill they will try to find a way to refuse your claim. You may have gotten a five minute conservative cheap thrill beating that (n-word) in the White House, but you will still be stuck with medical bills that will destroy you dreams.
This propaganda video plays you like you where chumps. You aren’t powerless here. If they pass health care you object to you can vote these people out and change it. What has the health insurance industry done for you lately? They tell you doctor what drugs you can take. They ration care now. They reject claims.
Health care costs are increasing at 10% a year. They will double in 7.6 years. You will pay if your employer doesn’t stop offering health care.
Check for you self by googling. Who offers the best health care in America today? It VA Health Care. VA is government. The same government that came to a captain being held at gun point off the coast of Somalia and said:”I’m form the government, I’m here to assist you!”
If you beat Obama Col Sanders will have you too hanging from a clothesline headless, flopping in the wind as your being bleed dry by the insurance industry.
JD – My mother would have had better coverage but was forced to give it up and take Medicare in the governemtn’s effort to save their ill run program – the first 25 cents of every dollar the governement takes in is WASTED because they can not run the program efficiently…
AND GRANT disagreeing with Obama’s phealthcare policy does not make me a racist…but you pulling the race card when faced with disagreement does make you a racist, and a poor one
It’s 2012 and I need some pain killing injections for my pain…oh wait, I’m on the National Healthcare Plan…the only plan offered in the U.S.A. (except for, of course, the private plans Congress and the President get) and I can’t get it. Now what do I do? I guess I can to Mexico, or maybe Canada? Maybe I can experiment and give myself some injections…that’s it…
Yes, yes, keep telling yourselves it’s misleading editing, it makes it easier to be a useful idiot.
Tbird – the Obama plans will not extend insurance coverage – if it was not covered before it will not be covered now – except for pre-existing conditions – in fact the governement plan will be fairly limited in coverage – what is that makes all of you think this is going to cover EVERYTHING????? Have you every looked at a Medicare policy? It is pretty restricted in what it will cover.
As medical student and future physician, I sincerely hope that a public option is realized, that single-payer becomes a reality, and that insurance companies are ultimately phased out of existence. There is abundance evident (if you actually go an look) that this is the best long-term solution to sustainably manage health care and health care costs. This is not government run health care (which we have in the military – it often works quite well but apparently does not contain costs.) Perhaps some very brilliant and creative individuals will propose alternatives, but it hasn’t really happened yet. The piecemeal reforms proposed by many (including Obama) will very likely not lead to a sustainable health care system. So far, only a single-payer system where insurance companies are phased out has that potential. Those who believe this is evil or foreshadows a big brother government have a very limited understanding of precisely what is causing problems in our health care system, how to fix it, and of the existing research supporting a single payer system. There are ways to debate this issue without resorting to calling Obama evil or throwing out ignorant conspiracy theories. That sort of behavior merely reveals your ignorance and inability to articulate rational and intelligent arguments.
someone on here said he would rather trust the government than a health insurance company – the same governmet that tested syphillis on it’s citizens and tested radioactivity on it’s citizens…yep, let’s trust them….
It really troubles me that many believe the above video has been tampered…not taken out of context, but truth…real unadulterated truth…and yet the kool-aid mustaches these people wear makes them deaf to the truth, but not mute as we hear there rhetoric and praise for the “Chosen One” daily…
I keep thinking that with all of these great changes (that would make us similar to Canada), why these people not move to canada to try it out…NOPE…see…this is really about wanting your cake AND eating it too…I have conversed in passing with some extreme liberals that believe fully, that the working class SHOULD be required to care for the non-working class. That employment/discretionary money for gratuitous consumption is abominable…all this while he and his wife were enjoying a big screen TV and an Xbox 360…he had been out of work for 6 years, and she was 40 hour a week employee(who believed 100% of overtime salary was 100% taxed hence was not interested).
Hmm.
There is a REASON why people are capable of living the “American dream”…oust the greedy liberal AND conservative congress who listen to lobby and refuse to listen to YOU…but you wont…easy way out is for Daddy Obama give you your glass of Kool-aid to drink up and hold your hand out for the free goodies…so many great ideas that WOULD help everyone(and you would NOT be taking from your neighbor!!!), and yet…your Congress is not listening…must be drinking the sameKool-aid that makes them deaf to the truth, but not mute.
A “single-payer” system would be terrible for the American people. And as Obama has stated on numerous occasions, he wants a single-payer system.
BTW, the single payer in such a system is the federal government who will extract the money from its citizens via taxes. Such system would be inefficient and incompetent beyond imagination.
Tell your congressperson that you want the government to stay out of healthcare.
Do you conservative propagandist fear me? You want to “frame the argument.” Have you, no pride? You fear the freedom of speech that lets you lie to the public.
Let’s stop the games. You knew this video was highly edited when you posted it. Is there a lines on the employment application you signed: do you lack morals and integrity? Will you lie freely? Will you obstruct the truth? Is this any point in your personal value system that the good of our nation prevails over the economic interests of a few? Who ever reads this, you’re not safe ether. You can be left without health care. If health doesn’t effect you directly it was effect someone in your family.
There are jobs I have refused to take on moral grounds. I could never work in a job that sold lies shamelessly and tried to look like the noble profession of journalism. Hitler had no problem finding people to spread his hatred and lies to a willing public. His followers got paid well.
“j” if you are really a medical student, you should change your major to history. In countries that have single-payer systems doctors and nurses are not paid as well as in America, and people do not receive as good quality healthcare as they do in America.
Lots of KOS trolls about today
Clearspot – it wasn’t edited to change what he said – it was edited to string together a series of comments…do you understand the difference?
He didn’t say eliminate the private option. He said the employer option. This means that business would not have to use their wage to cover employee health. The intention is to take the burden off of small businesses. Private Insurers will continue to privately insure.
What is it you are protecting here? While pundits instill the fear of government bureaucrats choosing which procedures we can afford, private executives are doing the same, using that profit to pad their bonuses.
NOTE TO DEMOCRATS………….
Sometimes when you win……….you really lose………..2010.
For those who want to call this video propaganda, you’re full of it. Obama says “I’m for a single payer system” There is also a clip floating around of Obama talking about how it would take 15 to 20 years to slide the “single payer system” in because Americans will not accept having their health care pulled out from under them. Ask yourself, do you think politicians want to help or control We The People of America?
Fight Back!
He said eliminate “EMPLOYER coverage”, not “private insurance”. Many freewheeling capitalists would luv to see people be able to pay for their own health insurance so they don’t have to absorb that cost. Our business and industry are handicapped against businesses in countries that practice state-capitalism where the govt. has health insurance programs that are easily affordable so businesses don’t have to carry that cost.
Breitbart is such a troll. lol.
Go for it president Obama. We need the public option. Lets get rid of all the private Insurance. They do not care about the consumers, they only care how to make more money, and pay less health benefits. Most of the time they deny the critical medical treatments, look at the Sarkissian case in California. They are all corrupt. Specially the CEO’s. Taking all the bonuses, for what? I guess for leaving the midlle class high and dry.
Hey TruthTeller.
2 + 2 = 5
It is interesting that the comments from Obama Lovers are not about what he said but about the splicing together of several comments over time. They just don’t get it, spliced or unspliced these are the words of Obama. This man is dangerous for our country.
Obama is an anti-American racist socialist intent on redistributing wealth to Africans and tens of millions of idiots (a/k/a stupid and/or ignorant “moderates”) gave him control. That said, insurance companies, financial companies and others gouge people. The “competition” price fixes. As one example, traders rake in tens of millions in bonuses for funneling hundreds of millions to their companies at a cost of hundreds of billions to Americans, with billions being funneled to foreigners by forcing prices upward by traders forcing too much money into too few commodities. Serving yourself at greater loss to your countrymen and your country is a problem with greedy socialists, greedy capitalists and politicians seeking support, money and votes from both to keep their jobs while the vast majority in the middle get screwed. No man-made thing, whether a machine, democracy, free enterprise or government will work as intended without proper control. Middleman and markets that don’t physically trade something tangible should be prohibited; and, no, carbon credits are not tangible.
The Republicans gave the insurance companies $600 billion in 2005, they love the scamming ripoff artists. That’s how Madoff got away with it so long. Republicans hate the American people that’s why they don’t want them getting health care. To them, health care is only for the rich. The GOP raised the national debt from $5.5 trillion to $10 trillion between 2001 & 2006, and gave millionaires $3 trillion dollars. The repubs let the Wall Street and the banks run wild during that time, stealing this country blind. Deregulation was just giving the criminals the keys to the treasury. They destroyed the whole world economy and sent all our jobs to China. And now they’re trying to get you to believe it’s Obama’s fault. Obama is just trying to thin the heard of criminals. C’mon people, grow a brain. Stop being hoodwinked by the fascists.
It is sooooo dishonest to use the leftards actual words and statements to show
what they really mean – Sniff, sniff, whine, whine.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire! Obama has been dancing around issues since he took office, he has not turned out to be the truthful leader Americans were looking for — no matter how you cut it, Obama and his brigade cannot give a straight answer on healthcare, gov’t spending or even simpler things… America, we’ve got a problem if we continue down this mans path…
Larse,
Are you kidding? Edited? The man is in his own words! (without all the hype, double talk and rhetoric) You live in a tiny little liberal bubble my non-friend.
Just 1 example of “KENNEDY CARE” we can all look forward to -
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/mjk.htm
40 years ago…
“Senator Kennedy killed that girl just as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger”
- George Kellin, State Police Detective.
The Human Condition.
I am a (devout) aetheist, if I wasn’t I would certainly have become one in the the past few months!.
If I had remained a christian, I would have to believe in an omnipotent deity out there, laughing its head off at its creation!.
It would have to ask itself, how can I, an omnipotent being have created so many idiots?.
Unless instead of a loving entity, we have a Celestial, powerful, “Marquis de Sade”, looking down and enjoying the chaos, and depravity it has created!.
I am not a liberal (another religion I despise), but a conservative (unlike what passes as conservatist these days).
I love the country our fathers have created for us, and I am sad to see it taken apart by stupid, ungrateful, unwashed, jerks.
This is what is happening right now!, Affirmative action: generals,lawyers,doctors,schoolmasters,teachers,judges, and everything else affirmative action you can name, have taken over the controls, and they don’t know or care or have the ability to know or care what happens when the dust settles!.
If you think that we are on our way for third world status, think again, we there already!.
Get out of the box people! How do we make health care cheaper!
R.J. So much generalization in your comment and so one-sided. They have you in their box.
I am very concerned about the American public is not interested in this fight to prevent Socialist care…. Americans need to show up higher numbers than seen on the videos. I think the public is not interested… What do you think?
Wow… if I clip edited that heavily I too could make obama say anything I wanted. He could be talking aliens attacking, or eating small children…. with enough editing anything can be done. Notice the only time odd things being said are when the camera is VERY out of focus on him, so you can see what he is saying, its just audio being layed over a blurry dark figure. As the sheep all listen for the big bad wolf.
All of you people who’re crying foul over the editing of the piece, you are the dolts we should be afraid of. Of course there was editing, but if it doesn’t scare you, then you obviously drink the Obama kool-aid. The editing didn’t change the man or what he believes. Why is it so difficult to see what this man is about? Does anyone really think he cares about Americans? Hell, he’s lied all the way through his presidency. Now his supreme scheme will need more money. So all of you who make under 250K, yes you who were told there would be no tax increases on you, welcome to the party. And its far from over. Hope and change is feelin good, now.
How can a private insurance company possibly compete with a government insurer empowered by law to perpetually reach in to taxpayers pockets for funding? Eventually all the private companies will fold. Later, when a government insurer denies coverage, there will be no legal recourse, since governmemt agencies can’t be sued.
if you support obama on this, you must be on crack. When medicare is going bankrupt and rampant with fraud, medicaid is a mess, and the VA system an embarassment. Obama wants ANOTHER goverment health plan with a trillion dollar price tag? …why not fix medicare and medicaid and VA?…just seems like a fair question that I have not heard answered yet.
The lead in the story was misleading and BS…I didn’t see how private insurance would be eliminated. Anyway, maybe it should be eliminated because now people pay insurance companies and doctors. Why pay double? Crazy. Insurance is another way to tax people.
How many of you criticizing this plan have ever been outside the U.S.? I’m from a country in Europe and the healthcare we have is phenomenal. Any citizen can at any time recieve any kind of medical care for FREE (no insurance required). And no, this does not infringe on my rights in any way or restrict my freedom. And no, I am not a communist.
AMERICAN DREAM LAMENTATION…
“Obama attacked the non-union operated businesses,
but I was a union worker, so I was not concerned.
And when Obama attacked the wealthy property owners,
I was not a wealthy property owner, so I was not concerned.
And when Obama attacked the small business owners,
I was not a business owner, so I was not concerned.
Finally, Obama attacked me and my family, and everyone else owning any property
– but now, there was no one left to be concerned.”
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Obama is the front man representing parties of power that have as their agenda the complete and total DISMANTLING of these United States.
Their only desire is to create and establish their own modernized system of feudal lords.
The objective of he, and those he represents is to create a…
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES REPUBLIC.
We are bound to embark into slavery and oppression worse than any the world has ever experienced.
WHETHER YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT, A REPUBLICAN, OR NON-AFFILIATED…
THERE WILL BE NO PLACE TO RUN!
PROGRESS of the AGENDA to INFILTRATE, CONQUER, and PILLAGE…
1. The banking system………….. Nearly complete!
2. The automotive industry……… Almost done, only Ford still stands.
3. The insurance industy……….. Some inroads made. The battle is hot.
Had hoped for a total ambush.
5. The wealthy estates…………. Proposing legislation for additional taxation and
governmental seizure of assets.
4. Small home owned businesses….. Gottem’ running scared! Will tax them heavily.
5. Major religious orders………. Got the feelers out, will start by taxing soon.
6. Property owners…………….. Major inroads made with the expansion of eminent domain.
Plans to substantially levy additional taxes whereby property
will be subject to immediate forfeiture for failure to
promptly comply.
7. Declare Martial Law
by Executive Order………….. Working on details of execution.
8. Make substantial donations to the U.N. and declare that the U.S. Constitution is invalid and the Bill of Rights obsolete.
CURRENT STATUS: Ahead of Schedule!
FULL STEAM AHEAD… Good Bye U.S.A.
I have lived in europe, tell me the country with the phenomenal health care!.
The insurance companies are evil and crooked– I hope they do go out of business.
AH!!! the “”SHEEPLE”" have findly waking up and “”BA-AAAAA”"
obama told this as he ran for “”PREZ”" but all you heard was the word “”CHANGE”" —you did not absorb the details as you were busy admiring the “”CHOSEN ONE”"
Well!!!!you got what you ask for. So suck it up and live with it if you can till 2010 and 2012 you can really change or fall for the same ole’ spill and pablum that the “”DEMS”" have fed you for years.
Don’t blame the ones of us that heard and understood what he was saying and voted for “”McCAIN/PALIN.. We at least can say we treid to tell you but you coundn’t hear over the bleating of the masses of “”SHEEPLE”"
GOD BLESS AND SAVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Finland
People need to stop watching from the sidelines and get involved in making sure this healthcare debacle is NOT put into place!!! Obama’s socialist agenda will destroy this country. Call, write or e-mail your state representatives and let them know you will not stand for this kind of government intrusion in our lives. People who think this video is just some kind of propaganda are like ostriches with their heads in the sand. Sure, it’s an edited video, but the message is the same – Obama wants to destroy our choice for healthcare in this country. People need to understand that healthcare is not a RIGHT. It is a choice. If government is now going to cover my healthcare, then they should pay my mortgage, cover my 4 kids’ college tuition, pay my car insurance, etc. etc. etc.
“…Be very aware of America hating propaganda now!!!!!!!!!!!…”
I agree, Larse.
Question EVERYTHING that comes out of a Democrats mouth.
I think you should revisit the subject!, I knew you didn’t know what in hell you were talking about!.
“Finland’s “free” health care no longer covers Swine Flu!?
Tags: Finland, Health & Healthcare”.
Go read!
Its time to clean house in Washington. They no longer represent the people!
Good. The insurance companies have been giving us the UFIA for far too long. Besides, it isn’t like the USPS can put UPS for FedEx out of business so let people get health care.
PS – there is nothing wrong with socialism + this is already a socialist country in many ways
Honestly, if someone 20 years ago — or even 10 years ago — had said this type of blatant push for totalitarianism was on the not-too-distant horizon, people would have called him a ranting paranoid loon.
But here it is, it’s all happening before our eyes. What has become of America?
Want to know what is really going on with obama? Go to Infowars.com and find out the real truth!
The political push for single payer in the USA is a problem of the making of insurance companies. IF they had better service and better prices, maybe people wouldn’t be pushing so much for it. But, right now, many people believe that private insurance companies are so terrible and have systems so antiquated that even government could do better.
The Human Condition.
I am a (devout) aetheist, if I wasn’t I would certainly have become one in the the past few months!.
If I had remained a christian, I would have to believe in an omnipotent deity out there, laughing its head off at its creation!.
It would have to ask itself, how can I, an omnipotent being have created so many idiots?.
Unless instead of a loving entity, we have a Celestial, powerful, “Marquis de Sade”, looking down and enjoying the chaos, and depravity it has created!.
I am not a liberal (another religion I despise), but a conservative (unlike what passes as conservatist these days).
I love the country our fathers have created for us, and I am sad to see it taken apart by stupid, ungrateful, unwashed, jerks.
This is what is happening right now!, Affirmative action: generals,lawyers,doctors,schoolmasters,teachers,judges, and everything else affirmative action you can name, have taken over the controls, and they don’t know or care or have the ability to know or care what happens when the dust settles!.
If you think that we are on our way for third world status, think again, we are there already!.
Foolish, Foolish Liberals! Take heed and understand, an insurance company denying your claim may not be a good thing, and it may not always be the right thing, but YOU have the FREEDOM and the CHOICE to get help anyway. When the GOVERNMENT denies your claim, you will have NO options, NO rights and NO FREEDOM to get help any other way. Fundraiser to pay for something expensive? No, you cant go outside the system. Doctors trying to help by performing expensive procedures for free? NO. NO CHOICE, NO FREEDOM. Aren’t liberals supposed to be PRO-CHOICE! In reality, its only PRO-CHOICE if its a LIBERAL SOCIALIST CHOICE. THE GOVERNMENT CANT DICTATE WHAT I DO WITH MY BODY, REMEMBER THAT! Except when they tell you that they wont pay for a delivery of a child, or the care of a sick child after its born because the cost is too high for the return, or perhaps when the elderly are sick or in need of help, NO. Broke your hip? You’ll be fine! Can’t let those CROOKED DOCTORS AND SURGEONS use all that money to replace it. You don’t earn an income anyway, and your just a burden on society.
Barrack Hussein Obama is the 12th Imam. Breed in a muslim country,colleged paid for by the one he bowed down too, went to pakistan for some reason nobody knows why(terrorist training)and now he is killing the U.S by tripling the dedt. by 2012 we wont have a country just like the mullas wanted. thats why he is the 12th imam.
If the press had been doing its job, these 2003 and 2007 health care takeover plans would have been widely known BEFORE the election. You can just throw these clips onto the ever growing pile of Obama’s destructive intentions that were denied, overlooked, or mockingly dismissed.
Why is it that those of you complaining that the video is edited will not address the comments made by the parties between the edits that are not edited. You are disingenious and you know it. The cause trumps the truth for you. Shame on you because you are as big a liar and manipulator as the president, Frank or any of the other disingenious democrats on the far left. Remember, we are on to you: the cause trumps the truth and WE are now beginning to respond when we should have a decade ago. Count your days.
Didn’t he say transition out of EMPLOYER based coverage? Yes.
Isn’t that desirable for us free-marketers as well, that employers aren’t saddled with the burden?
And ideally it becomes affordable as home and car insurance, that’s just bought on its own in the open market, without tax distortions.
Sorry if that’s too much nuance for you cavemen here. But sometimes context does matter.
There are some like this sad soul, Diane who wrote “Apparently, people at Breitbart.tv are easily “shocked” given that this video (absent the dishonest editing) has already been seen. Try, try, try again to scare us”, that dream of socialism and want the government to control every aspect of their lives, because they are incapable of doing for themselves. What pathetic, gullable fools these people are. I do not want nor need Obama and bunch of power thirsty Democrats to tell me when to breath, thank you very much. Stand up America and say “NO WAY YOU MR. OBAMA ARE GOING TO DESTROY MY COUNTRY”.
With that kinds of editing, I could prove that SpongeBob is the anti-Christ. Wake up people. Sure, worry about the “government beast”. But also worry about the other beast – big business. One thing is clear. The entrenched interests in the health care industry care about you about as much as the bankers and mortgage industry do. What are you afraid of? Government competition does not always kill off business – if business is offering value (think USPS/UPS/FedEx | Harvard/SUNY/California State University). If the value is there, I’ll stay private.
This wasn’t edited anymore than a Michael Moore movie. Amazing to me that Michael can do this and you libs eat it up but when conservatives start looking at clips of what your Dems are saying it is somehow propaganda. Get a clue! The days of waiting in line for months for simple procedures like an MRI will soon become a reality under these pathetic plans.
Explain this to me. If this is such a wonderful health plan, why in the hell are our great leaders in Washington not also taking advantage of this health plan. Simple……”LET THEM EAT CAKE”
Regarding Obama, I think the song “Sunday School” by Milktoast Intolerant says it best…
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/04/finland_on_alert_for_swine_flu_outbreak_706611.html
Wow this guy is starting to make George Bush look good.
Larse – I never figured you for a koolaide drinker – but I guess when it comes to radicals, you are the koolaide champion
Larse – wake up and raise you IQ 50 points – America does not want obamadeathcare
Its only the welfare queens that want the rest of us to suffer and die
Beware seniors: Obama Care = Soylent Green
The people destroying the country are the right-wing nationists, screwing people out of decent health care everyday, following whatever laws they decide to make up in their head, as long as profit is the motive.
The people destroying the country are the right-wing nationists, screwing people out of decent health care everyday, following whatever laws they decide to make up in their head, as long as profit is the motive.
@ starhawk August 3rd, 2009 – 1:18 pm
So you’re an atheist. I’m sure you’re aware that those same founding fathers who gave us this great country were the same devout Christians who believed in an omnipotent deity out there, specifically Jesus Christ. Here are some fun facts: all but 8 of the signers of the Dec. of Indp. were Christian ministers at one time in their life; the first official act of congress was to go to church; Thomas Jefferson ordered federal funds to be used to support Christian missionaries; Benjamin Franklin supported Christianity being taught in all of the public schools; the majority of grievances against Britain in the Dec. of Indp. had to do with the suppression of Christianity.
Nevertheless, it sounds like we have the same conservative roots. I’m glad to have you out there.
BTW, I always thought that if I were an atheist, I’d find it easy to be a conservative. But then again, I can’t think of any rational reason to be a modern liberal.
Impeach the Kenyan usurper. He is a foreign enemy to the Constitution of the United States and has spit on the graves of every man, woman, and child that has ever died to help this country. HE WAS NOT BORN IN AMERICA!!! And either CAN’T prove it, or WON’T prove it… either way he DID’T prove it before he was elected, and now it’s time to pay the piper.
LONG FORM! LONG FORM! LONG FORM!
Pattieb,
People like Diane are the kind of people who followed Jim Jones
down to Guyana and literally drank cyanide-laced Kool-Aid.
Only now they’re following their Obama leader and no matter
how much he lies, what they see and hear clearly shown
in the video, is “editing” rather than Obama’s lying.
It’s amazing what we’re dealing with here. Crazy sycophants.
I want my country back.
I would just like to restate my previous comment. Im a complete moron and have no right sharemy views on a public webiste like this. please excuse my inability to put together a rational thought.
The same people who complain about this video being put together LOOOOOOOOOVE the Daily Show. Every night that’s all they do and they claim to have valid points (somewhere). Grow up Libs ya’ll wanna be in charge except when the shhhh hits the fan been in charge for 50+yrs before ‘94 got back in in ‘06 denied the housing mess Maxine Waters: “We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines” Obamas home boy Frank Raines. P.S. Anywhere, anytime libs. bring it.
All Hail to the Kenyan-in-Chief!
@ CriticalThinkingHelps August 3rd, 2009 – 2:00 pm
It’s right-wing nationalist, not nationist. Nationist is a new slang (i.e. not a real word); you could use some critical thinking yourself.
P.S. I love obscene profits! And America, and God, and Guns, and Girls. Unlike the lilly-livered, turncoat liberals (a bunch of godless, queers I say).
No. This isn’t right. See, he Obama does not lie and you should feel guilty showing this video portraying the Kenyan as a Liar. It isn’t right.
Recall while running, he promised to remove ALL US Troops from Iraq no later than March, 2009.
Now he has determined that he cannot remove all us troops by Mar 09, Mar 10 or Mar 11 for that matter. This does not make the Kenyan a liar.
Rather, these examples only reflect the Fact that Obama is a man imbued with a TRUSTING NATURE. Obama listens to people who claim to know more
about specific things (like his wife who is paid a HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BY A PRIVATE INSURER) and military generals.
His trusting nature causes people to think he has lied. He hasn’t – he has TRUSTED others to tell him the truth.
Only when he later learns Others Lied To Him is the Kenyan forced to ‘re-establish former boundaries’.
He is a hero for our times. America has earned Obama the Kenyan.
Like any business, people go into healthcare for 2 reasons: 1) to provide a service to others, and 2) to make a profit. You can’t do #2 with #1 folks, as wonderfully utopic as that may sound. The best thing to do is to have private competition which means the healthcare industry strives to outdo each other in services in order to make a profit by getting the most customers. It’s called the free market. The freer the market (not necessarily UNregulated), the better. Tort reform is in order, but other than that we don’t need less insurance providers (i.e. ONE in Washington) we need MORE! Don’t listen to the socialist propaganda from the likes on Michael Moore, CNN, and Barry Obama, go visit other countries and see for yourself just how good we have it here, and how much better it could be with just minor changes.
We have what we have for tolerating what we tolerate. Look in the mirror and then around you for the actual causes of the descending spiral into socialism.
Are amerikans stupid or greedy? ignorant or know only what they want to know? blind or see only what they want to see? deaf or only hear what they want to hear?
In the end, “those who would remain ignorant and free want what never has been and never will be”. This is the epitaph of America with its evil twin, amerika, on the rise.
I want all the obama supporters to leave your obama08 stickers on your cars – it will make for less chance of target error.
Being a compassionate conservative (small government, big charities), I live by my principles and give my extra dollars to private entities who then help the needy. Liberals … how many of YOU live by your principles (big government) … how many of you have sent your EXTRA dollars to the IRS?
It’s easy to be sanctimonious with OTHER people’s money.
Funny how if America desires to invade another nation and rebuild other nations the right jumps on board………….Yep get those guns out no matter how much money or lives it costs………………….
But for health sorry……………………..
[correction... "you can't do #1 without #2]… (o.k., please no immature jokes either lol.)
LONG FORM!
Obama has never hidden his plans to reshape America, Spread the Wealth, or take back what really belongs to the poor and inner city dweller. Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Mao Stse Tung, Hugo Chaves, have all said and done the same thing. It’s just that the American people do not understand that once you “break” the rich, the money runs out and the system collapses into the police state.
I love these rich liberals. They stay rich as the ruling elite and the political class. Al Gore uses more electricity in one week in his Tennessee home than 28 million Ugandans use in one year. Then Al Gore tells Africa, they cannot have nor deserve electricity to power medical centers, purify water or keep food from spoiling unless they use windmills or solar panels. The Africans now know that he would rather they die than become a modern, healthy place with a long life expectancy like the West. True Liberalism in action. Kill the unborn, Euthanasia for health care and none of the luxuries enjoyed by the elite socialist, or their workers in their workers paradise. How dare they ask for a better standard of living!
This country is going to >>> in a handbasket and NOBODY seems to care.
Just look at the mindless drones leaving comments on medrumors.com
Really?
Same people who were upset when Rush was taken out of context with the “I hope he fails” comment are now looking at this and acting suprised? I will believe Obama wants single payer health care when he tells me himself, not some guy making a video in his mothers basement and shouting about socialism. Grow up, and I can’t believe this made it onto drudge! stop being dumb and start thinking for yourself instead of looking to a 30 second video that covers a 6 year period for answers.
Yep… he was born in Kenya…
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg
time to impeach!
DON’T BLAME ME – I DID NOT VOTE FOR THE AMERICA HATING PRESIDENT
It’s funny just how many people will defend this racist community organizer to the bitter end…
He’s an ACORN thug from Chicago, with racist friends and racist family. Once more people realize this, you extremists are done for. Barry is kept afloat by the angry minority of a minority.
This administration is a house of cards. Get ready for us to knock it down.
good.
insurance companies suck. i want health care not health insurance.
what’s wrong with you people?
seriously.
uh… Doesn’t 75% of the population want a single payer system? How does this hurt his popularity? We need to focus on the Birther movement that is gaining steam and come up with some evidence that he was not born in the US.
It’s not an edit job. It’s being condensed for time.
Only an idiot would think this was deceitful… perhaps you’d prefer to sit through 3 hours of speeches to gain these statements?
You extremists can’t keep this up forever. Barry is being exposed for what he is- a Marxist.
Obama was born in 1961, and this alleged Obama Kenyan birth certificate was supposedly issued by the Republic of Kenya in on Feb. 27, 1964, but according to Wikipedia Kenya became independent on Dec. 12, 1963, and declared itself a republic a year later
Dear Dennysmith61:
Shouldn’t you be off protesting Obama’s hesitation on “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, lack of initiative on repealing DOMA or continuing GWB’s policies on the war on ter…ooops, overseas contingency operations?
How many times have we heard liberals say they don’t want government in their bedrooms, but now they welcome government in every room of their house?
See, it comes down to this – CHOICE! This plan doesn’t want you to have it and they have spent decades with the mantra training you to bite this big lie, hook, line and sinker!
Liberals want choice, I as an independent want choice… the difference is, they want to choose for me, I want to choose for myself — GET IT?!
The Obomunists love Obama and Communism and poverty for all equally spread out.
From StarHawk to JamesK
JamesK, I think you may dissagree with my answer, but can you dispute it?.
God has to be a “Liberal”.
Let’s see what they share in common.
First we have the “Good Intensions”, followed by Ooops!…., Followed by Lies and Obfuscations!.
He creates the universe, then all beings, He then gives “Free Will” only to man!…but here comes Lucifer, you know the guy with “I rather rule in hell, than serve in heaven”.
Lucifer was not supposed to have free will!, nor the legions of angels that followed him!, this is the first gigantic Ooooppps!.
Then we make Adam, a happy go lucky jock, (just like today’s average American boy), … but not a female in sight!, then we improvise, and use some leftovers and make Eve!, second gigantic Ooooppps!.
Well, Eve turned out to be quite a problem, didn’t she?, so as the celestial joke unfolds, we have a snake of a guy that makes Eve (despite the warnings) do some foolish things, like…I want to know more about things….., and guess what, the poor jock that had nothing to do with any of this gets thrown out of Eden as well!.
Notice that none of the above had been foreseen; we had the good intensions, we had the Oooopps, and here come the obfuscations, “the devil made me do it”!.
We can go on and consider all the poor innocent babies that have to suffer through life because someone else or the “gang of three”, (that’s God,Lucifer the snake, and Eve), the fem screwed everything up, and we end up paying the bill!.
So, obviously the liberals have God on their side!, let’s face it guys, we are dead!.
How low can you go Breibart TV and the Drudge Report.First of all please
get your terms right and don`t lie. That would be a good start for discourse in this country.All Euro countries except England still have private insurance companies. The difference is the government regulates them putting certain restrictions on them that don1t exist in this country.I feel CEO`s of insurance companies making 23 million dollars a year is obscene and the very definition of sinful.What DRs and hospitals charge is not the basis of high healthcare, its the premiums that the insurance companies charge all of us.How can anybody be on their side.
Their sole interest is to maximize profits, not to provide quality
healthcare.
Universal health insurance is GOOD thing. How much of the cost of our rediculously expensive health care goes into the pockets of insurance corporations? How many of you drudgetards even HAVE health insurance?
God hates lies. Obama is a lier, and in God’s own time and way, the truth will come out about who this usurper really is, including where he was truly born! God is using Obama to bring judgment and discipline on America for abandoning Him. The day America repents for abandoning God and returns back to Him will be the day God begins healing our nation, and then He will deal with Obama and all his cronies for their lies and other deceitful actions. How do I know this? Because God has said “…be sure your sins will catch up to you.” Numbers 32:23
To those complaining that the editing on this video is ‘deceitful’ (it is crappy, I’ll grant you that):
Please give me a context in which the included 0bama comments are APPROPRIATE. That’s all I want – otherwise, quit whining that his agenda is slowly being exposed.
Bush drove us into the ditch – appointed president by activist judges, incompetence leading to 9/11, faked intelligence and false war, and then crashing the economy. His legacy is that his secret wiretaps, indefinite imprisonments without trial and torture techniques are now available to President Obama. When Bush was in charge, so-called patriots forgot their principles and allowed him to take away our freedoms. Now that someone they hate is in charge, they’re starting to realize why us independents didn’t want ANY president to have that much power.
Top presidential conspiracy theories: Obama is not American, Bush was actually behind 9/11, Bush rigged the 2004 election, Clinton was a mass murderer, Bush 1 wanted to create a new world order, Nancy Reagan was actually acting as president rather than Ronnie, Nixon faked the moon landing to psych out Russia, and on and on and on…
Keep spinning, BRATbart. People are literally sick & tired of dying while the healthcare industry literally makes a fortune off of their corpses.
A Health Care Bill needs to happen.
A Health Care Bill must happen.
A Health Care Bill *WILL* happen!
You right wingers could not stop blacks from voting during the 60’s, and you’re on the losing side of History once again.
Wow, looks like we gotta buncha ‘tea-baggin birther-movement’ half-wits on here! It’s nice to see where you all come together and make up a buncha nonsense. Don’t you just love homophobes? HA…you’d probably vote for Palin as well! Go to your local town hall and filibuster DEMOCRACY, just like the people you put in office that are in the pockets of the big PHARMA and Insurance Companies that scam people on a daily basis. SICKO’s!
You ever noticed that when you look into liberal’s donations to charities and to people less fortunate than themselves, they almost always give much, much less to causes than do conservatives? I guess it’s because liberals want to spend other people’s money and not their own.
Now, there will be some liberals here who claim that’s not true … but just go and look before you try to defend liberal donations – - look at Joe Biden’s giving last year. Look at Obama’s giving last year. Normally, it wouldn’t matter. BUT, because they want to spend so much of everyone else’s money, it certainly DOES matter.
The question is which Obama lie do you believe? Very simple which one costs the most is the truth and the one to belive. I cannot believe(or maybe I can)how this
man has gotten away with total flagrant blatant LIES about nearly everything he has proposed to the country! The press is so blatantly in bed with him it is sickening and frightening! We are headed for a dictatorship by a man who has NO IDEA what he is doing or how the economy works! REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH ONLY OCCURS WHEN YOU HAVE REAL JOB GROWTH AND ACCOMPANYING INCOME GROWTH PERIOD FULL STOP–NO EXCEPTIONS! Failure to understand that FACT will wreck the economy as he is doing now! TC
If it is such a good program, why will Congress not be included? We’ll all be shoved into a Gov’t plan, while they have their own separate care. Why is that OK? The only way Congress will start thinking like us, is if they have to start living like us.
Steve August 3rd, 2009 – 8:12 am wrote;
… “I do think that there does need to be a way for people with pre-existing conditions to get health care because of right now they can not.”
Idiotic statement!!!! Example… You own a car, you don’t want to pay for insurance or as you’ll say you don’t have anyway to get insurance. You crash your uninsured car, totaling it into a tree. Do you then want to go get insurance to get the pre-existing damage paid for? What insurance company wants to cover damage that existed prior to you having coverage, They will all go bankrupt in days! MORON. My guess is once you have to have it, you’ll find a way to pay for it. Just not a high enough priority when your car, in this example, is just fine.
Why would anyone pay for insurance before they need it if they can just go get it after they actually do need it? No risk of being declined, no additional fees, no exemption for pre-existing conditions. How about home owners insurance, should I be able to wait for my house to burn down or get burglarized before I get insurance? You people really are amazingly simple minded.
Eliminate private health insurance. That’s pretty funny. People with money will always have the option to
go with a private insurer. To think that these insurance companies are just going to go away is pretty
laughable. I don’t think most of you comprehend the money that backs these health insurance companies. This
story is pure propaghandi.
The Social Security system is going brook, Medicare is a failure, Medicaid is a failure, the military medical system is failing our veterans, every single attempt the government has made to provide medical care has failed! What in the world are you people that support a government health care thinking? Is it that YOU will get free health care and someone else will pay for it? YOU are wrong! YOU will pay dearly and YOU will get another failed government program. Canada started off this way and their heath system is a failure! Great Britain’s government run health system is a total failure with their citizens fleeing to our privately run health care because it’s the best in the world. WAKE UP! We have the best system in the world, make it better, don’t destroy it!
Why don’t we have functioning health care? Because health care has been and will continue to be (unless we change it) about the for profit insurance companies that gamble with your health care and their buddies the pharms. They have to be part of the equation that makes it possible for everyone to have adequate health care. Do you really think the insurance company you do business with cares about your health? Do you really think that the pharms care about your health? Have you ever been denied coverage by your HMO? Do you really think a hospital band-aid should cost $6.00? If you like your health care provider, you will be able to keep it. If you like your doctor you will be able to stay with them. If you don’t, you can change.
What is so hard for the naysayers to understand?
And for all you birthers out there. Obama is a natural born citizen and it has been proven. There was even a birth announcement in both Hawaiian newspapers in 1961. Check this out, from a source that has never been wrong-http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp.
And please, please, please nominate Sarah Palin for President in 2012. I have never seen a Democrat take all 50 states before.
I am Mr. Charles, while listening to the “Midnight Trucking Radio Show” a few nights ago, I heard Erik Harley commenting on the Health Care Plan as wanted by President Obama. Erik made a comment that the question that should be asked of The President is, “If Medicare and Medicaid are causing a big debt problem for the administration, then what will happen to the national debt by adding millions of more people to a government health program like The President wants?”.
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May you always be HAPPY. From Charles.
CriticalThinkingHelps – your post has none, critical thinking that is -
This man is a weak leader. Contact your congressmen and let them know they are going to lose in 2010. Make them worry about their jobs. Make it clear to them that no one trusts Obama and that we are going to vote them out.
Contact your congressmen today!
Hahahaaa what a joke for a video this is news! seriously this video is outrages since when is copy and pasting a video real news! This site has showed its true colors wow how dumb do they think we are seriously!
Never seen a bigger bunch of sore losers than Republicans after this loss to Obama. So you trot out ridiculously edited videos…snippets strung together from 8 different sources…not one single segment left in context and you call it a conspiracy.
Waaaaah Waaaaah!
You lost. Deal with it. All you had to offer was an out-of-touch, do the “good ole’ boys way” old fart and a clueless dingbat. You deserved to lose this election.
Oh…and I’m a Republican. Have been all my life. Voted Democrat for the first time in 25 years in this election. So glad Obama’s my President (and yours too, by the way.)
I love how it’s ALL about money with you right wing guys. Don’t you realize that the more people who are out there WITHOUT any healthcare, the more chance there is YOU AND PEOPLE IN YOU’RE FAMILY will catch some screwed up disease at the airport, or traveling on Public Transportation (I know, I know, you conservatives are to good to ride with THOSE PEOPLE)…I guess you’d rather have NASTY diseases floating around the poor communities than a healthy nation. Don’t you know that we’re only AS STRONG AS OUR WEAKEST LINK? Those communicable diseases don’t pick and choose…they will go right into your lungs as you turn your nose up and walk past a poor person coughing his lungs out because a few people in this great country are hoarding money.
BUT THEN AGAIN…you guys are ‘cool’ with using other people’s money to have the Fire Dept come put out your fires, or the police to come get the brown people out of your neighborhood, or to Jail people who scare you. Again, I love how it’s ALL about money with you guys. You’d probably vote for bush again if he we’re allowed to run, & you would just eat that up like fox news, (or this site, sheesh)
Looks like there are a bunch of DNC folks on here lol (you can tell by the immediate ad homs, lack of substance, ideological bankruptcy, and the attempt to marginalize Obama’s impeachable offense of not proving he was born in America before running for President. But they still CAN’T prove Obama was born in America, nor that socialism is a good thing. The fact that they try to defend the latter shows what bad shape we’re in. Liberals are so generous and kind with other people’s money. Bug off brownshirts! Take your marxism to Europe where it belongs.
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.
47 million uninsured
20% are illegal aliens…sorry undocumented immigrants
38% have incomes of 50,000 or more
40% are eligible for medicare/medicade and dont take it
that leaves 2% actually what we talkin’ ’bout!
Look it up folks! Better for you to investigate urselves than for me to provide the links…there are many…do a search….investigate….dont trust someones word…us Americans are better than lemmings!
We actually DO have “universal health care” in this nation. It is illegal for any hospital to refuse treating any person for a health problem of any kind. That law ensures that all Americans get access to needed health care. What has hurt Americans’ access to health care isn’t the insurance industry…it’s the presence of tens of millions of people living in the United States illegally and who are causing the medical industry’s infrastructure to break down under the weight of the sheer numbers. Obama’s plan will not address this problem (let alone solve it) and it will probably make things even worse for Americans citizens(but maybe not if you are anillegal alien..in which Obama is throwing peanuts at you as if you are a monkey at the zoo).
So this Islamofascist-in-Usurper Barry Soetoro will have us spend TRILLIONS and end up with health care being denied to elderly people, handicapped people, and persons with chronic health problems. Universal health care for America? Or a universal glue factory for America?
Just imagine denying senior citizens health care (which Obama would and probably WILL do) while at the same time providing health care to illegals from third world countries who have broken our laws, killed our people in some instances, and stolen from the treasury thanks to the shenanigans of our political “liberals.” And this AFTER breaking our treasury by spending well over one trillion dollars!!!
What is wrong with this picture? I’ll tell you what’s wrong with this picture: Barry Soetoro is in it–that’s what’s wrong! (Yeah– and it’s also got Joe Biden, Nazi Lugosi, and Harry Reid in too!).
Liar Liar – the hospital bandaid covers the nursing costs too – are you people nuts to really want the type of care the government provides along with the deficit it will bring and for all of you who don’t understand this principal, health insurance brought us a standard of care not enjoyed by any other nation in the world – WHO rates America #1 for deliverables, that is our actual care..we are #1 in the world for the actaul care we receive – yeah they knock us down for cost, but doesn’t consider we bear the world’s brunt for research (Canada doesn’t spend one cent on research but gladly benefits from our research)then they knock us down for life expectancy but doesn’t consider our unique immigration versus Japan which has almost none and knocks us down for infant mortality again grossly impacted by immigration more than any other country against which we are compared (Japan and Sweden have almost zero immigration so their population has almost no one coming in who has not had previous healthcare or lacks immunizations) but we still rank number #1 for what we receive when we go to the doctor or to the hospital – and when our costs are compared to Canada – well if there is no research, that cuts their costs and the Candians can hardly ever get in to see their doctors or get to the hospital and if you don’t use it it doesn’t cost, for example, if you don’t drive your car often your gas bill is low—it is because we have FOR PROFIT insurance that we are #1 in deliverables not because of the government run programs we have in America
and if Americans would lose weight, quit running to the doctor for runny noses, quit smoking and drinking we could cut some of our costs…also we have some of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the world…leads to higher low birth weights and longer hospital stays and higher bills..and high abortion rates don’t help either and these are all almost entirely preventable in a country where birth control is everywhere….
And there is nothing wrong with profit
CriticalThinkingHelps, you need to think a little more “critically” i think. No one is saying your STATE or TOWN can’t have socialized healthcare (just like a local fire dept.)… go for it, more power to ya! Also, you implement the same tactics as Obama by evoking fear and “crisis.” There will always be sickness, death, disease etc. etc. If you think some bureaucratic nightmare is going to help then I do hope psychological help is also covered under Obama-care. Also, the whole conservatives = racist thing is old and worn out, time for a new playbook because 1) it’s not true (no more than Democrats), and 2) no one cares anymore, and 3) your President is a bigger racist then anyone I’ve ever seen (and no, I won’t get a beer with him). And the FOX news thing is worn-out as well –they have higher ratings than CNN and the other brownshirt MSM orgs. for a good reason, you should try to find out that reason instead of being a DNC pawn.
About The current medical program that congress and the president seem intent to shove down our throats.
I say that we will take the same program that they get, nothing more nothing less. After all, are we all not Americans and bound by law to be fair and allow no one un-equalized privileges, fair and equal protection under the law?
It seems that it is them and Us, and we are getting what they want to give us, not at all what we desire or can use. I think that it would be only fair to get the same care and treatment that our elected officials take for granted, after all we are paying for it.
Failing that, they should be made to partake of the same system that they are so intent on making us use. It might make them rethink the options if they have to fill out the same forms, go to the same doctors and receive the same Unitarian treatment that we will be getting under their plan.
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I only hope this is true! We need a single-payer system that takes the burden of providing insurance off the backs of employers so that they can compete more effectively internationally.
ChuckyCheese, you guys are SO AFRAID of anything new! I like how you point out FOX has high ratings…as if that’s some sort of guage of American interests. You know who else has amazing ratings? Howard Stern. How do you get ratings? Gin up fear. Lie. Shock people, make a mountain out of a mole hill…
Isn’t it beautiful we’re about the ONLY non-3rd world country without the public option. Keep feeding these insurance scammers if you “Ayn Rand readin” fools want, but the rest of us would at least like a public OPTION.
It’s REALLY great how you guys argue public health care will not work, ya know, “long lines, long waits, bad care”, but then you say that it will be SO GOOD that insurance scammers won’t be able to compete, and will be put out of business. As far as I’m concerned those guys can go flip hamburgers. Yea keep burnin’ that candle at both ends. It will keep shrinking like republican support.
Blame it all on COTUS
http://www.zazzle.com/anti_obama_parody_cotus_obama_poster-228230814104206011
WHY DON’T YOU TRY IT SOMETIME?
What in the hell is wrong with you people? Obama is a politician. Of course he lies! Just like George W Bush, Bill clinton, George Bush SR, Ronald Regan and basically every President that came before. When you have to win the popular vote to become POTUS then this is just a fact of life. But, What I don’t understand is what makes his lies so much worse than the lies that we have always heard. Is it simply because it is coming from a man of color? A man who 50 years ago would have been strung up on a tree and burned to death all in the nam of JESUS? Is the hatred that you have against Obama the same hatred that drove Pilgrims and explorers to shoot the heads off of Native Americans when they got off their boats or the same hatred that drove very greedy settlers to steal Africans and force them to board ships, stripping them of their RICH homeland and productive communities to build a country taht they would never be accepted in. Or maybe its the same hatred that lived in the politicans that created laws forbiding the education of African American people. No No its the hatred that exuded from the white slave masters who refused to screw thier horny wives but instead wanted to hear that slap that a round (not flat) booty makes when bouncing against their pale thighs. Those poor white women. I hear your calls for battle. Just know that millions of us have been waiting to retaliate against that hate for hundreds of years. Stick to the policies DUDES and leave the hate in the past. History is not on your side.
CriticalThinking – so what if we are the only non-third world country without a public option? What does that prove? Public doesn’t mean better – in fact from what I have seen of public transportation, Medicare, the Post Office I am not convinced the public sector can do it better than the private. And considering what the public option has done to Canada, 15% of Canadians don’t even have a doctor and those that do wait months for a doctor visit – England is even worse – why would I want that – the costs in Sweden are staggering – in Denmark one has to go see a pharmacist before a doctor, only after the pharmacist fails does one go to the doctor – what is so great about public options?
Hahaha! I love that guy who keeps going around to all these videos say: Well you know that Public Health Insurance is different to Public Health Care? It’s not and you know it. It’s just another version of lib doublespeak and we can see through you….go away and go try to brainwash someone else. We ain’t buying it.
Do some research. Call up your insurance company and find out exactly what your covered for. Get to know the bureacrat that is in between you and your docter now. Bet you will find out that he has a bigger blacker shaft than Obama’s and every year he’s lubing it up less and less.
CriticalThinkingHelps, you are so eager for something “new,” as if “new” is better. What kind of logic is that? Do I really need to explain why that is as fallacious as Obama’s Presidency? Heck, Communism would be “new” too, is that what’s next with you guys? All the other countries with the public option don’t have it as good as we do. As far as FOX is concerned, their ratings are high because (God forbid) they let conservatives have an equal voice – novel concept, I know. CNN etc. doesn’t carry any other news that you can’t get on FOX and they do it with less objectivity because everyone knows they’re in the can for the Democrats. Also, do you honestly think that Obama-care would DECREASE scammers, and trip and fall lawsuits? Wow! O.k., if you think so lol! … my candle has one end, and it burns with the flame of liberty, shining the light in the darkness of liberalism, socialism, and communism. D.C. is not God, and Constitutionally is only meant to serve a very limited and specific role — being an HMO isn’t one of them. What is wrong with letting each State choose? What do liberals have against freedom and liberty? I honestly don’t get it. We didn’t become the greatest country on earth, and the only remaining super-power by comparing ourselves with Europe’s failed experiments. Let them get Marx out of their system, and we’ll be here waiting when they return to their senses. I don’t know about you, but I sure the heck am not moving to England or France anytime soon. You?
And anyone who falls for this bull crap video is an idiot. Period. Nothing else left to be said.
One has to understand the worldview that Obama and others like him espouse. Though the mainstream media didn’t think so, it was important that Obama sat under the preaching of Liberation Theology from Wright for 20 years, and was influenced by Marxists before that.
Liberation Theology is Marxism expressed in Christian terminology. This worldview – Socialism, generally – sees the “masses” as needing to be “liberated” from the “oppression” of the wealthy and the owners of corporations/big business, real-estate, and resources. The Socialist believes that if the wealth, property, resources, etc, were held collectively in a centralized fashion, then a more equitable and fair distribution of these things to the masses will result. This is really what is meant by the term “Social Gospel.” It is more than Christian-minded people doing good deeds in the community. Christian terminology and sentiments are used in LT ideology, but the application is made to Social structures and to the realm of Civil Government. For example –
God, who wields power and authority over the individual, becomes the State, wielding power and authority over the masses or the collective.
Justice, as seen being satisfied in Jesus paying the penalty for the sins of the individual before a Holy and Righteous God, becomes the Collective being freed from oppressive, power-wielding systems (The Romans and Jews in the 1st century, for example).
(Consider, as a black man, Obama is one who, himself, had to be “liberated” from the very system he now presides over)
Evangelism becomes Activism (Community organizing, collective bargaining, protesting, etc.)
Preparation for and hope in the afterlife in Heaven is replaced with a “this-world” focus, where Heaven (Utopia, Brotherhood of Man, Global Governance, etc.) is built right here on Earth (Obama’s own words during the campaign).
Once a person understands this, then the comments of Wright, Barak, Michele, and a host of others, make sense as they are placed in their proper CONTEXT. Their comments are much more than a slip of the tongue, occasionally racist, or something made in a moment of frustration – they express a specific view of reality.
Few understand this at all, that Socialism/Marxism is really Heretical Christianity. It is the application of the mandates of Christ and the Gospel to that of Civil Government – and this was never supposed to be the case. The mandates of Christ and the Gospel – “turn the other cheek,” “Pray for your enemies, do good to those who despitefully use you,” etc. – are for those under His Rule, the CHURCH, the “called-out ones,” not for Civil Government or Courts of Law. The role of Civil Government is that of power and coercion, to exact the Law and its penalties upon evil-doers – not to impose the Gospel and Christ’s mandates upon people.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that the moderator of this racists site would only post the vitriol spewing from the forked fingers of these supremisists and censor the truth that is our history
Ok, so when does the public and the media start calling him the LIAR that he is???
WWhen did the US become a country where the moinority rules because they have the bigger mouths but when the majority speaks up they are political hacks if you believe the goverment can run health care you are just stupid no other word would describe you I am sorry but you are stupid if you can name one thing the goverment runs good (just one) then you would be the only person with that information TAXING THE american people does not count
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Im not surprised by this. If you are you were drinking the koolaid…..Welcome back to reality !!! This imposter is leading us right into SOCIALISM….Please for the sake of everything good in America vote these Deocrats out of office. We are in dangerous time when they can make statements like the ones there making about health care..(IE….we dont need the republicans to get this passed)..it does not matter to the obamas, the reids and the pelosi’s of the world (I left tem uncapitalized because they dont deserve it)what half or over half of the US population wants…Its about them and them only. The Democrats think they can spend your MONEY better than you can…And thats what they intend to do…take your money and spend it on what they see fit ! The middle class in this country is going to be in big trouble if we DO NOT STAND UP and shout from the roofs that we have had ENOUGH !!!! Sickening !
We aren’t “screwed” DaveR! It’s called FIGHTING BACK LIKE HELL! EVERYONE, and I mean Evryone, needs to attend your town hall meetings with your elected members of congress and take this to them! Fight, damnit, fight them!
Mary Magdalene – crudely and inaccurately put – having paid for private insurance for nearly 30 years and now taking care of my Mom’s Medicare, I would rather never have a governement backed plan – yes my premiums have gone up but so have the types of care available to me, 30 years ago there were no knee transplants etc., so lets talk apples to apples not the drivel the governement throws out at us – we have higher costs because we have many more procedures and diagnostic tests available, we see the doctor more, we have obesity abounding, we have illegimate births by the score (40% of all births which are higher risk births and therefore often more costly), abortions that were not around and not at this rate, smokers live longer and cost more, we spend more on end of life procedures that didn’t exist (do you want to deny this to the elderly?) – yes it costs more but we have so much more and we refuse to acknowledge this and sometimes our doctors have to protect themselves against us and order unnecessary tests because we expect perfection..if in hindsight it is found the doctor made a judgement call that was resonable at the time but leter proved wrong, we will sue his as* off and juries will award obnoxious amounts of money because they feel bad..there is a cause and effect at work here but so many of you just want to have the government take care of you….
re: Chucky Cheese: my candle has one end, and it burns with the flame of liberty, shining the light in the darkness of liberalism, socialism, and communism. (Wow it’s just like Bushspeak, no content!!)
Actually your candle is burning out anything it doesn’t understand. You actually don’t want Americans to have a choice. You’re just dandy having an insurance agent dictate the future of you’re health. His motive is only TO MAKE MONEY. Investors make sure of this. I believe the corporate monopolies controlling our nation’s health are WAY WORSE than a Govt Option. We can vote people in and out of office, push for laws, help decide, ya know, TWEAK IT. When it’s in the hands of a company who’s ONLY MOTIVE IT PROFIT, well, you get what we have now. Crap and NO INNOVATION. Geez you guys kept stem cell research illegal while the rest of the intelligent world was bypassing us (as they have in many other areas as well). Just remember you can’t vote out CEO’s like a Senator or Congressman or President.
Scam as many people as you want with whatever products snake oil or consumer goods you can corner the market on, but American’s Health should not be treated like Car Insurance.
For all those who dismiss this as an altered, deceptive piece, maybe you should just ask Barney Frank who recently proudly proclaimed that a single-payer system is the ultimate goal. Zell Miller was right.
Liberal posters remind me of robots who are programed to speak nothing but propaganda. Keep it up my little sheep. Your comments give me something to laugh about other than Obamas’ press conferences.
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!!
It is really funny how some ‘people’ continue to support and defend this goofball. It is really sad that we have to share the planet with them. The war between the Americans and the liberals has begun. Take them out now or be prepared for the gas chambers these fascist will impose on the freedom fighters.
Only blinded republicans are the type of people who come out in defense of shady Health Insurance companies. Its almost laughable.
This video is a farce at best. That said, I don’t see single-payer health care being a bad thing at all. I’m all for it in the long term in fact. It would remove a tremendous burden from American companies.
This is to :Grant August 3rd, 2009 – 11:46 am
I dont care if our President is white, black, green, red or even a woman. Study your history. Take your upper middle class over paid educated ass and go for a run Forrest. Grant, you need a real wake up call.
I would have no problem paying for my health care. I would have no problem paying for any service as long as there is a choice. When our Government cant even handle the Cars For Clunkers, do you want them to handle our Heath Care? Huh, Richie Rich? Read the bill.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
You cannot get any clearer than black and white here.
It would not surprise me that under Obama’s healthcare plan, major sports will have to disband, too dangerous, too many serious injuries and too costly for insurances to pay for. So I would say “say good bye to Football, Basketball, Baseball, Soccer, Ice Hockey, Nascar, Gymnastics, Bicycling, Swimming, Cheerleading, Sky Diving, Winter Sports….Hey, might as well disband the military because we can’t have soldiers getting injured in battle. We will just lay down our arms and not fight back. Should cut back on population control as doctors of death deal their poisons to put those deemed unnecessary to live a death sentence. More change we could see down the bloody road that leads to the White House and the Democrat Party on the Hill. Bring it on!!!!!
IndyinAL- All of that bull you just spewed means absolutely nothing just like all your rhetoric of socialism ans Marxism and what ever else bull crap talking points that you have picked up from your form of MSM. Its a simple request. Contact your insurance company. They are so busy ripping us off and spending Billions of dollars lobbying to keep people like you uninformed and ingnorant that they have neveer considered cost saving practices that will give thier policy holders more access. I am not saying that the Obama bill is the right way to go, but something MUST happen. It needed to happen many years ago. That is why what we are doing currently is bankrupting our system. You haters just hate the man- and your blind hatred makes you sound like an uneducated scared redneck cousin banger…
you guys on the far left were under the assumption when you took took congress that the country had swung far left…then again when Obama won you thought the same…sorry guys…70 % rate themselves moderate to conservative and 12% consider them selves far left/progressive….look it up….the people are fighting back…when these congressmen get back to dc after over a month of listening to the people in town meetings….Barak Obama wont be able to pass anything…Barak Obama wont even be able to pass a bowel movement….lol
What obvious BS of a video. Who edited this a 5 yr old?
Q. When did Obama say his play would put insurance out of biz?
A. He didnt!
There is a good fight to be had here but a child can see this is misinformation.
Brietbart and Drudge should be ashamed but they arent, thats gutter journalism for you.
Enjoy your 1st amendment US, the GOP has turned it into the right to lie
day after day, such criminal BS, radio or internet, you are being misinformed to erupt.
And what happens when “oops” someone sets off a bomb or shoots someone like that TN
church or that nut at the Holocaust museum. These GOP slime merchants (like Brietbart)
will have blood on their hands. Just get the story right people or the GOP will
lose every moderate conservative like myself.
The communist pravda media in this country are to blame for this “thing” being elected our president. I hope he fails, and they fail. I know I never listen to their stations, or watch their TV, or read their newspapers.
But on a lighter note, now that some real investigation is going on, we can say Thanks Obama! You are killing your own party and their hopes for a takeover. Thanks for running your suck for the cameras!
Everyone, 2 things MUST be done. Read Rules for radicals so you will understand Obama’s playbook. He is following it right to the letter. Then take off of work and be in DC on 9/12 when the silent majority will take control back of our country!
I can honestly say I’m scared with Obama as president.
This report is as factual as batboy in tabloids….All you dems and repukes best sign on to the independent
party because both of your parties are a disgrace.
The reason that I fear the government more than private industry is that the government can declare war, has a large military, can take your home, and your kids and your weapons. Private companies really dont do that. And you can vote against a private company each and every day by not buying their products. However, with the government, you are forced to buy whatever services they are dishing out at the time. No option to opt out of SS or the other programs. Soon, no health options either. No bank options, etc. Freedom is unhealthy for a dem poltiician.
Liberals, why are you complaining about the editing of this video? The mainstream media does the same thing everyday and you choose to believe every word of it. You need to think for yourselves. If the same video was shown on MSNBC (yeah right)you wouldn’t have a problem with it but when a conservative blogger posts it, you go berserk. Double-Standard is sooooooo tacky.
I beg to differ scott. Obama can pass a bowel movement from either end. And does.
Dear President Obama,
You’re not MY president, you treasonous lying jug-eared communist girlie-man sack of $h1t! F@kk you!
Read a history book – the South LOST the Civil War in 1865. And, it will STAY THAT WAY.
Nothing here is new. If you follow politics, nothing that has been shown in the “shock” video is new. Eliminating private insurance has always been the goal.
CriticalThinkingHelps, I will try this one last time. Who picked your insurance agent? Who picked the insurance company? Who picked what job you would work at? AHHH BINGO! See it all comes back to YOU in the end making a choice! The ONLY real choice we will be left with in Obama-land is a government option and what THEY say is the price and the procedures that are covered. It is a statist MONOPOLY in the works. Do you really think that only those opting for the gov’t option will have to pay for it? NO! We ALL will regardless if we want it or use it (THAT’s not ‘choice’ at all). It will be like the failed public school system we all have to pay for even though they’re horrible and most would choose a private school if they could. If you’re using your brain, you will at this point say, “Why are private schools priced so high?” The answer is the same reason why private insurance will be so high when we all have to pay for a public option. There is LESS DEMAND when people get on the state doll!!! If there were no public schools, everyone would go to a “private” school– increasing demand, thus increasing schools, and thus LOWERING THE PRICE. Competition would contribute to better QUALITY too! It’s Economics 101. But this is my last attempt to reach you with some REAL critical thinking, you’re on your own now. Good luck!
Shock Uncovered video…..geezus….Breit and Drudge are really grasping at anything now. Some horrible
edited youtube clip is news? zzzzzzzz
Just to shut up the trolls, can we get the video unedited?
I’m thinking it will say the same thing… but how about it?
Every single one of you that are against health care have insurance. If you didn’t have insurance, you’d be for the plan. More proof that republicans are the haves, and are willing to throw their own mother under the bus. The GOP motto, “Fork you, me first.” That’s why Jesus said, “The first will be last, and the last will be first.” First on earth is very short compared to being last for eternity. You WILL regret your greed.
Can you say “filth”?
Knew this was coming (yeah, I read his background thoroughly), held my nose and voted for McCain – - and am not at all shocked by all these “sudden” revilations concerning his Marxism, narcissistic garbage and socialistic pandering with the redistribution of wealth from we Producers.
No, the guy and ‘most all his administration is slime, pure’n’simple, socialist scum. Lenin, Marx, Trotsky and Stalin much be haning a great ol’ time as Norman Thomas’ predictions are coming through…..
Pathetic!
YEAH! The only people who don’t deserve any health care of any kind are the lowlifes who care about a corporation’s profits more than the health of the people. Health care for everyone. If heartless insurers are collateral damage, I won’t be shedding any tears.
“When did the US become a country where the moinority rules because they have the bigger mouths but when the majority speaks up they are political hacks if you believe the goverment can run health care you are just stupid no other word would describe you I am sorry but you are stupid if you can name one thing the goverment runs good (just one) then you would be the only person with that information TAXING THE american people does not count”
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HI jerry vincent OK I will take a stab at it…..
How about the ARMY,NAVY,MARINES,AIR FORCE or do you consider theses US Government run programs also substandard?
I know it does not count but how about the IRS
I find it odd that everybody is ok with the socialization of the education system, but you are not okay with universal health care. It’s a fact that the people who live in countries with Universal or Socialized medicine have a longer life expectancy than we do. It is also a fact that there are 47 million people in our own country without insurance. How would you right wing nuts propose we handle that?
This man IS pure EVIL!!!!!
sorry rj…i have no insurance and i am totally against it! blew that one outa the water!
This is in response to Dan. Have you ever actually been to another country and talked to their citizens about their universal health care? You are just regurgetating the same old Republican rhetoric about how Canadians and citizens of other countries with Universal medicine hate it. That’s a very tired claim. I’ve actually been to Canada and talked with many of their citizens about health care. Do they have their gripes? No doubt, but 9 out of 10 of them I talked to preferred the Canadian system to the U.S. system. Now maybe you can find some other useless rhetoric to spew.
easy jon…look up the facts….they are as follows
47 million uninsured
20% are illegal aliens…sorry undocumented immigrants
38% have incomes of 50,000 or more
40% are eligible for medicare/medicade and dont take it
that leaves 2% actually what we talkin’ ’bout!
Look it up folks! Better for you to investigate urselves than for me to provide the links…there are many…do a search….investigate….dont trust someones word…us Americans are better than lemmings!
How the insurance company ripped me off … a true story
I have insurance and have had for 30 years. My employer has always paid the bulk of it with me paying a fraction of the total.
I have a large family and all told the evil insurance company has paid well over one million dollars to cover my families health issues. My company and I have paid a fraction of that amount in premiums.
Evil insurance companies anyway.
Stupid American afraid of whats good for them.
Look stupid Americans, if you believe in free enterprise than you know that there will be companies who are going to offer SUPLEMENTAL coverage to your single payer system if it comes down the line. You say you like free entrprise but now you’re afraid that it won’t work?
Man you Americans are so F-ing STUPID! And it’s mostly whites, so you know that whole bell curve thing is out the window.
Republitard fear-mongering at its best. Easier for Republitards to believe what they read on emails or a short YouTube clip than actually pay attention.
The fact is the US Government has been subsidizing US healthcare for decades. The Republitards are only making noise about it now because of political reasons. If it was a Republitard in the White House, they wouldn’t say a thing—just like they didn’t say a thing when Bush tried to sell US Port Authority to Dubai Ports World (Middle Eastern company for you inbreds that can’t put 2 and 2 together).
Keep your eyes glued to Fox News, losers!
It’s not your fault stupid Americans, you don’t realize that “insurance” artificially inflates EVERYTHING.
Just ask anyone who deals with car parts. What a private individual pays $1,000 for the insurance companies are billed as much as $2,600 in some cases. Hurray insurance. Heck you see it in the hosptials. Why do you pay $10 for one asprin in the hospital and you pay that much for a bottle in the drug store?
It’s right there in front of your eyes but you’re too stupid to see it.
kmichaels, do you actally believe the past few wars we’ve started had NOTHING to do with big corporate interests? THAT’S FUNNY IN AND OF ITSELF. Honestly if the government ever decided (With it’s big Evil Govt brain…) to invade our homes and take our kids, hehe, it would be because a couple Corporations with TOO MUCH POWER OVER OUR GOVERNMENT wanted it. Try reading some history books that weren’t issued during the “cold war”.
John, you being scared with Obama as president speaks volumes. You must be afraid of everything.
Southerngirl, why do you just make this crap up?! Didn’t your Saviour, Palin, tell you to stop that?
Teds Nougat, the moment you guys stop injecting religion into every debate, the more progress this country will make. There’s no place for any religion in our Governent or Public Schools. Or maybe you’d be alright with, right after Sunday School, your munchkin had to go to evolution class in the other end of the basement in your church.
Jerry Vincent, ya know, I think the Post Office actually does just fine. I never have had a lost or late mail delivery. Government programs work GREAT, when Corporations do not lean on politicians to DEFUND them, yup we’ll be hurting from the Bushies defunding for a long time. Look at no child left behind. A program with a pretty name but no monetary support, and then you point at it and say “hey look the government can’t do anything” Jerry, we are the government.
FOR EVERYONE ELSE HERE: I’ve lived in every corner of this country, from Yankee NY, to Podunk Georgia (Nope not Atlanta) and from Coal minin’ West Virginia to the Pacific Northwest, and Flint, Michigan. Ok I haven’t lived in the Southwest… This being said – Conservatives are the minority. BIG TIME. There’s nothing wrong with that. You want to be conservative, not progressive. Big whoop. Democrat/Republican, 2 sides of the same coin in the end. This country is mostly progressive (when you get out and randomly talk to people), BUT ALL OF THE MEDIA (MSNBC to FOX) likes to portray the country as 50/50- Left/Right…ya know why? RATINGS. It seems like a better fight to watch when the odds are even…that’s why. More commercial time, more money.
Anyone that reads this headline and watches the video and has an IQ over 80 understands that this is “news”
story is complete BS. I’m tired of the lies. Breit and Drudge have falling into the tabloid genre.
Jon,
You assume that we have no problem with the socialization of education, therefore we should embrace socialization of health care. But, what if I do have a problem with socialized education??
Um excuse me claspur? Did you actually say that Obama is going to get alot of people killed? Yup that’s what I thought you said. Well, obviously you’ve been asleep for the past 7 years, but do me a favor. Go over to Iraq, and tell 10 random Iraqi citizens what you just typed on this crappy website. After they separate your head from your body then try repeating what you said. Bet ya can’t!!! There’s no excuse for ignorance…
Anybody besides me remember the controversy during the election about new coal powerplants? I distinctly remember BoBo saying that he wouldn’t outlaw coal powerplants because that would be too problematic. Instead he would make it prohibitively expensive to open a new coal plant so that if you choose to build one you’ll go bankrupt from all the red tape. Personally, this kind of back door politics makes my skin crawl, but he actually admitted that was his strategy.
Now, BoBo wants to have government subsidized health system compete next to the private insurance companies. Sounds like the same M.O. to me, instead of requiring you have government run health care, they’ll just make it so no private insurer can make a profit and they all go out of business. Gives you a nice transition period as the private insurers die off one by one.
You mean the guy that didn’t know what was being said in his church for 23 years, lied?
The guy who launched his 1st campaign in a terrorists hous ( Wm ayers)but told us he was only a guy in the neighborhood, lied?
You mean the guy that had no experience at running anything lied?
You mean the guy that laughed at Israel with his friend that was Arafat’s spokesperson actually doesn’t support Israel?
You mean the guy that doesn’t know the facts but sides with his racist friend against a hero police officer is a liar?
You mean this guy that won’t show his Birth Certificate, to end any controversy?
You Mean the guy that said the surge failed?
You Mean the guy that called our soldiers terrorizers and murderers of civilians?
You Mean the guy that apoligizes for America and never ever says anything good about this country?
I am shocked!!!!!!!!
Yeah shocked that anyone was ever fooled by this marxist, racist, anti semitic, anti american, person.
If you ever beleived one word from this guy you were a fool. If you believe it now you are a total fool.
To those commeenting that the video is edited. Please, be aware that these ‘Obama speaking about Health Care’ videos are avaiable and have been available for some time on the internet! In no length or “version” as you call it, does BHO state anything other than that he believes in a single payer health system. That’s what he wants. So, unless you are really out of touch, you will accept that as his view and his goal. Each of us can agree or disagree. Interesting that you can’t accept him as he is but must cling to a fantasy. Editing is not relevant here.
Oh, what a waste of energy trying to converse with ignorant liberals! All emotion and hate, and no facts!
Scott, Great stats. Where did you get them. Here’s some more statistics for you from http://www.kff.org. More than 8 in 10 of the uninsured come from working households who are not offered employer sponsored health care coverage. What would you suggest those folks do?
Not only will healthcare reform kill off the older citizens earlier,it will allow the government to stop paying out Social Security payments to the seniors which results in a double savings to the government.That’s right,no further treatment,citizen dies,no more monthly government payments. I am sure they are looking at killing 2 birds with one stone(no pun intended).
How long do we have to wait until we have someone who doesnt agree with the government stopping treatment,their loved one dies and they decide to get their revenge. More people get hurt or even killed. What are those costs? The person doing this will of course go to jail for the rest of his life with the taxpayer paying $25,000.00 a year or more to house this misguided individual.Was does the money for that come from?
THE SYSTEM IS RAMPANT WITH FRAUD OF ALL KINDS AND I HAVE YET TO HEAR ONE ELECTED OFFICAL EVEN DISCUSS CONTROLLING WASTE OR TORT REFORM!
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ILLEGALS THAT WILL INVADE OUR COUNTRY FOR FREE CARE? HOW MANY OF THEM WILL HAVE INNOCULATIONS THAT ARE UP TO DATE? AGAIN THE GOVERNMENT WILL REQUIRE HIGHER TAXES OF US TO PAY FOR IT ALL AND THE PROBLEMS FROM MEDICAL DISEASES THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER CONTROL FOR YEARS.
IF THIS BILL PASSES YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT HAVING ANY SOCIAL LIFE BECAUSE ALL OF US WILL BE WORKING 3 JOBS AND 80 HOURS A WEEK JUST TO KEEP UP WITH OUR TAXES AND TO SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. WE WONT BE ABLE TO USE OUR HEALTHCARE BECAUSE TO STAND OR SIT IN LINE FOR 4 HOURS WILL PUT US OFF TRACK TO PAY OUR TAX BILL AND SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. DEAR LEADER WONT LIKE IT THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING OUR TAXES NOW WILL HE? OF COURSE THE WELFARE CLIENTS WILL REMAIN ON THEIR BUTTS AND NOT WORK OR ON THEIR BACKS POPPING OUT MORE “LITTLE LEADERS” FOR THE REST OF US TO CARE FOR.YET ANOTHER REASON TO REQUIRE MORE TAXES FROM US.
BUT WAIT,THERES MORE!
WAKE UP PEOPLE,VIOLENCE AND CHAOS IS COMING TO YOUR HOUSE.LEARN TO TREAT YOURSELF AND DONT GIVE GOVERNMENT THE CHANCE TO KILL YOU BECAUSE
T H E Y W A N T Y O U D E A D T O S A V E T H E M M O N E Y
Sadly, the people who need to read these comments can’t. Catching soundbites on Oprah, MSNBC or the cover of a rag sheet, that is the truth to them.
However, American people finally are getting angry – stay angry. We all need to remind ourselves of history – if we don’t, it will repeat itself.
This man is not a president – he is not governing for the American people. Have you ever heard him say anything at all, that inspires you? or makes you feel proud of this country? Quite the contrary – he apologizes and blames everyone but the party-in-charge. He is not about keeping America a great country. His underying agenda is completely about bringing the American people down, to their knees. Make them suffer – good. And that is exactly where his mind is.
He is diabolical – there is nothing in praise of helping American people. American – wake up! We need to fight hard and take back this country from the liberal media, the liberal govt, and the ignorant masses who are just too stupid to make a qualified decision about anything. How’s that hope and change working for you? How’s the cash for clunkers working? Hello? Get the picture? If they can’t get that right, what possibly can you expect from him as a president…..
lol critical—you will ignore these numbers but we will let the people reading decide if you are wrong….
In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way:
(1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative;
(2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate;
=62%
(4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal;
=27%
(5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and
=9%
(6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.
those numbers jus dont jive with how the people you talk to make you feel.
I know i said earlier i wouldnt give a link but here it is…i would still encourage everyone to look for themselves…
its the….The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls.
find it!
Critical…there only 9% of you and the rest of us are fighting back!!!
john…heres what i want them to do…
the ones who cant afford are eligible for medicare/medicaid sign up for it…
the ones who make over 50000 can pay for it like millions of others…..
and the ones that are left can be delt with without socializing the whole system….
and jon…those figures are allover out there…find them
47 million Americans, I mean 29 million, er actually its 19 million… Sorry its 8 million
It is widely reported that 47 million Americans lack health insurance, but even the Census Burean states that “health insurance coverage is likely to be underreported on the” Current Population Survey. So let’s admit that we’re starting with a number flawed to the high side. But, let’s continue…
18 million of the uninsured make more than $50,000 per year and almost 10 million of them have an income of over $75,000 per year (Source: http://www.census.gov/prod/2007pubs/p60-233.pdf, p.21). So, 38% of the US uninsured make over $50,000 per year.
47 million uninsured minus 18 million who could afford coverage equals 29 million uninsured.
10 million of the uninsured are illegal immigrants or undocumented workers (whichever you prefer).
The remaining uninsured are low-income Americans or the children of low-income Americans. Fortunately, America is a generous nation and has instituted programs to deal with this community already – Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP. According to the Georgetown University Health Policy Institute, 70% of uninsured children are already eligilble for either Medicaid, SCHIP, or both. (Source: http://ccf.georgetown.edu/index/cms-filesystem-action?file=strategy+center%2Feligibleuninsured%2Feligibleuninsuredccf.pdf). That means about 6 million children are eligible today, but not enrolled.
In addition, the Urban Institute found that 27% of Medicaid eligible adults were not enrolled (Source: http://www.urban.org/publications/310378.html) – perhaps another 5-6 million people.
ah what the…here are some sources…:)
[...] UNCOVERED VIDEO: OBAMA EXPLAINS HOW HIS HEALTH CARE PLAN WILL ‘ELIMINATE’ PRIVATE INSURANCE [...]
If he were legitimate, it would be time to impeach his ass. But, since he’s just another “guest worker”, uninvited “newcomer”, we have to put up with his BS and hooliganisms until we vote him out. ASS-uming the stupid fence-sitting “moderates” don’t re-elect his jack ass.
Barry Soetoro (BS), just another rich white guy pretending to be “one” of us. If this were Bush, Pelosi and KLAN would have hung his ass out to dry by now.
Scum..Scum…Scum… Go back to where you’re from…
Go to h*ll Obama. And take your snake oil with you.
I love the hypocrisy of everyone who, all of sudden, has problems with big government. This is the same old tired rant of the neo-conservative and conservative alike. We hear it all the time…”big government this and big government that”…
“bleeding heart liberals want big government to take control of our lives.” You are the same folks who were more than happy, for eight years (stolen years, I might add) to roll over while Cheney, and everyone else who had their hands up the ass of the puppet-president Bush, were working to systematically destroy every freedom that our Founding Fathers worked for you. If it had been left up to you, we would not have had to worry about big government because we would have been living under a right-wing fascist regime. Luckily, the Founding Fathers built something that seems to be too resilient for anyone to mess up too badly. Shame on you for your barely hidden racism and your immature response to the American people getting what they voted for…a new direction in politics that might, just might, mean that we move back to Rule of Law governance instead of Martial Law governance…Our Forefathers have stopped turning in their graves, with no help from any of you. God Bless America and thank goodness that you all have the right to your rigidity of thought. Takes every kind of people to make the world go ’round. I love you all, you crazy bastards.
We are living in a new era now. It is an era of hope, justice and peace. An era of social and economic justice. An era where the wicked are punished and the innocent are free from fear and injustice.
2008 marked the end of the Bush Regime and American Imperialism. A time known as BO or “Before Obama”. A terrible time of the sickness America inflicted upon the world.
Obama will heal the world of the wound known as America. Health care is a human right and Americans must learn to put aside their greed and selfish ways. They owe the oppressed peoples of the world, health care. That is justice.
America will have a new start. A change to right itself. A change to correct its wrongs and address its sins. If you support change that will bring forth social and economic justice, you will stand with Barack Obama. Those who have been denied justice in America will get justice. Those will have been denied opportunity will be given opportunity. Those will falsely imprisoned will be freed. Those who are guilty will be punished. America’s salvation is at hand.
Those who have profited in America will play a role helping others. Justice requires equality and fairness and those who have the means will now be fair and will contribute to equality.
Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored you for your work, sacrifice, dedication and devotion on behalf of all oppressed peoples.
Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored and celebrated and remembered in song and praise and by your children.
Yeah, Scott, you’re right. Our healthcare system is working out great, which would explain why so many personal bankruptcies are filed on account of unpayable medical bills. Let it balloon out of control indefinitely, and see what happens.
Given that the traditional way of handling the issue is untenable and barely functioning, why are people so scared of trying something different? what have private insurance companies done, besides raise your premiums while denying you coverage at ever conceivably possible turn, done to earn your loyalty?
To those still clinging to the xenophobic and willfully ignorant viewpoint that the president is not a citizen of the United States, please, come back to Earth and try to engage your fellow citizens and representatives in fruitful discussion about the critical and difficult choices, with many conflicting and legitimate viewpoints, that face the American community. The persistence of this issue belies the small minded ugliness of those who perpetuate it. I assure you a white man, with one European born parent, would not be faced with such a circus. This is how Americans, of all ideologies get distracted and defeated, by trumped up nonsense.
Scott, Polls are unreliable, and unofficial. You can target certain households and demographics to get whatever stats you want. If you don’t know that you can lie with statistics, then you just don’t know. Think with your OPEN mind!
3DOGMAN, Wow, you totally are a great representative your cause! Everybody scroll up and read that nonsense! It’s like Michael Savage (Weiner is his REAL last name) crashed into Glenn Beck.
You teabaggers are being used by Insurance companies that startup organizations like “Freedomworks” that are run by people who just want to keep the insurance scam going.
as you can see it was edited , but the part where obama says they cant eliminate employer based cover right away ( paraphrased) and the part where he is tell everyone in 2003 he is a proponet of single payer system was not edited he actually said and MEANT those things
this guy is bad for america there can be no doubt
harp…I gave facts figures and sources…
you gave:
“so many personal bankruptcies are filed” (what? 2% 4%? facts and figures please)
“the traditional way of handling the issue is untenable and barely functioning”(and you get this where? I think they call that rhetoric)
2% of our country cannot afford health care and the great majority are happy with their insurance…
so again…lets just socialize the big broken healthcare system…the far left is crashing
Critical….lol…keep it up!
Ill repeat what you said in responce to facts:
“Polls are unreliable, and unofficial. You can target certain households and demographics to get whatever stats you want. If you don’t know that you can lie with statistics, then you just don’t know. Think with your OPEN mind!”
in response to these numbers you dont like:
lol critical—you will ignore these numbers but we will let the people reading decide if you are wrong….
In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way:
(1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative;
(2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate;
=62%
(4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal;
=27%
(5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and
=9%
(6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.
those numbers jus dont jive with how the people you talk to make you feel.
I know i said earlier i wouldnt give a link but here it is…i would still encourage everyone to look for themselves…
its the….The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls.
find it!
For all you people who voted for all these demos and the president, Merry Christmas, you’re getting just what you wanted…………
We are alive at a time of great shifting from fear-based politics to true governance. This is the herald of a new age of cooperation and colaborration, and I am so pleased to be alive to see it. I am excited by my government, for the first time in years. I am so pleased that we have Mr. Obama as our President. I am also pleased that we had George Bush as President…because he galvanized the people to take back their country. Fear always burns itself out, given enough time and space. It would appear that we have moved from governing from fear to governing from generosity. It all works out and love always wins…always. Blessings!
I repeat critical:
The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls.
“38% of the US uninsured make over $50,000 per year.”
100% of those 38% will file for bankruptcy if they had a serious injury or illness.
I love the hypocrisy of everyone who, all of sudden, has problems with big government. This is the same old tired rant of the neo-conservative and conservative alike. We hear it all the time…”big government this and big government that”…
“bleeding heart liberals want big government to take control of our lives.” You are the same folks who were more than happy, for eight years (stolen years, I might add) to roll over while Cheney, and everyone else who had their hands up the ass of the puppet-president Bush, were working to systematically destroy every freedom that our Founding Fathers worked for you. If it had been left up to you, we would not have had to worry about big government because we would have been living under a right-wing fascist regime. Luckily, the Founding Fathers built something that seems to be too resilient for anyone to mess up too badly. Shame on you for your barely hidden racism and your immature response to the American people getting what they voted for…a new direction in politics that might, just might, mean that we move back to Rule of Law governance instead of Martial Law governance…Our Forefathers have stopped turning in their graves, with no help from any of you. God Bless America and thank goodness that you all have the right to your rigidity of thought. Takes every kind of people to make the world go ’round. I love you all.
reality…not if they buy insurance! soooo simple…even a caveman can get it!
Poll results are not dialogue, and certainly are not “facts.” They serve to undercut any potential conversation, because people can present the results of whichever poll confirms their own beliefs as fact, and refuse to actually talk about anything. So, no, i’m not interested in plying you with statistics that I dredge up by searching for my preferred poll results on Google. I’ll take rhetoric over ideology masquerading as fact. That’s how new ideas get synthesized from the best parts of competing views, not through ever deepening retrenchment. I’m not suggesting by any means that the administration has it right on this, or any other, issue. I don’t know how to best deal with the myriad clear malfunctions of our communities, local, regional, national, global. I don’t think you do either. All I’m saying, is that noone is served well by unthinking knee-jerk reactions to new or different ideas.
Truth First? Good God, you people sound like you worked for Chairman Mao or Joseph Engels. This is America! Then only blight on this country is human sewer dregs like yourself, who hate this country. Go live in the paradise of North Korea or Yemen, because you do not deserve to live here.
so let me get this straight…the most respected poll in the country says only 9% of the american public consider themselves far left while 60% considerthemselves either very conservative or somewhat consewrvative and since harp and critical wanna live in a land where the majority are far left we just ignore the polls….ok…if you say so…everyone…the majortity of the country has turned far left…let the socialists rule!!!Yayyyy!!!the far left has won! yayyyyy! forget the polls…they arent dialogue!!!!! yayyyyy!
Scott, lol, I can make up numbers too!
85% of American’s consider themselves to be pretty
5 % of Americans’s consider themselves to be ugly
10% of Americans’s don’t like to think about it
The Battleground poll. Whoop – de – frickin doo! Another poll has Jon Stewart as the most trusted newsman in america! TV, Polls, it’s all too comical. It’s just like when you meatheads say “OH UNEMPLOYMENT IS GOING DOWN” and act like there are more jobs out there, but the numbers are a lie because they don’t count people who don’t sign up for Unemployment or got screwed out of it. You can read whatever poll you want to get whatever number you want.
The basic thing here is, I pay for my own insurance now…just fine, but you conservatives forget that there are a lot of people out there on the edge of mental disorder, undiagnosed, that need help…sure most of us are ok with this insurance crap we have now ’cause we make it work …you’ve just been lucky to have not had a disabled-child or had friends on the edge of any disorder that destroys there ability to really fend for themselves. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP. A lot of them are functioning in society, and these are the people Big Pharma and Insurance companies REALLY prey on… There are so many people without all of their mental faculties working correctly…(MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE DRUGS BIG PHARMA HAS BEEN PUMPING INTO OUR SYSTEM FOR 2 OR 3 DECADES)
Critical…that would be great but I didnt make up the numbers…they official:
In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way:
(1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative;
(2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate;
=62%
(4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal;
=27%
(5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and
=9%
(6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.
its the….The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls
I know you dont like it but the people reqading can make up their own mind…yours is closed we all know that…but we will keep celebrating for you cuz we love ya…
the far left has taken over!!!Yayyyyy they hold the majority…yayyyyyy! Celebrate with me everyone!!!!!
Look how scared the Obamatons are. They lie and smear to avoiding the facts.
The Dems have ALWAYS wanted to give us universal health care. You’d have to have been living in a cave the last 50 years to miss this. Everyone knows this and only a liar or fool denies it.
Socialists always want the state to provide the essentials. They sell it as compassionate and moral, but its really about power. The power to punish. It gives the state what socialism strives for: The citizen must take whatever the state is willing to provide. This by definition is morality to the socialist, because only the state can be fair.
Yes, yes, insurance companies are evil, evil, evil, but just wait until the zombies from the Post Office, the Department of Motor Vehicles, and the IRS start dispensing penicillin, scheduling heart surgery, and delivering babies. That will be the biggest laugh yet.
Government never does anything right. Why should this be any different?
i see. Scott, you’re clearly either unwilling or incapable of engaging with concepts more complicated than a pie chart or a breakdown of responses to ridiculous questions that don’t actually have any meaning. I’ll kindly ask you to refrain from divining my position on the mythical left-to-right political spectrum that you seem to cling to so bizarrely. I’ve yet to state a position other than “talking about things helps.” I’d recommend growing up and responding to the complexities of the modern day, and America’s place in it, with something other than regurgitation, mimicry and mockery. Or not. It is a free country.
What makes me sad is knowing that good people like me and everyone I work with and thier families may lose thier jobs in the insurance industry–this is huge!. I’ mean more jobs lost to make sure everyone is insured. Afterall it is a business just like everything else. Having health insurance is the last thing on my mind when I need a job to feed my kids.
These comments by our President are to the point. We want to restrict their influence, or eliminate insurance companies from being the ones who decide who gets health care, or not, in this nation. Right now, the insurance companies are driven by profit. The less people they can help in a health situation, the more profit they will make. The percentage of our premiums paid to insurance companies that actually go toward helping the sick is less and less with time. Right now, only about 80 % of the funds are allocated to pay for health care— and they are decreasing while the profits of the shareholders of health insurance stocks are going up. I, personally, do not want en insurance company’s CEO deciding if I should receive health care. I much prefer that my doctor (and that is another can of worms) decide what is good for my health.
That is why, by introducing universal health insurance coverage, we are introducing competition to these companies. The hope is that the premiums we pay to the current insurance companies be used to cure the sick, not to fatten the pockets of insurance companies and their stockholders. Many people do not see it this way because either they have been brain-washed, or they have something (politically?) at stake in this situation. They would like us to maintain the status quo because it is in their greedy and political interests. They employ powerful, and expensive, lobbyists and other lackeys in order to stop the health care program that our president is trying to pass.
Harp
Facts are facts and you want it to be much more complicated than it is…
Critical said that she feels:
” Conservatives are the minority. BIG TIME. There’s nothing wrong with that. You want to be conservative, not progressive. Big whoop. Democrat/Republican, 2 sides of the same coin in the end. This country is mostly progressive (when you get out and randomly talk to people), ”
I said:
In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way:
(1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative;
(2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate;
=62%
(4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal;
=27%
(5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and
=9%
(6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.
its the….The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls
and your response? we will let the readers decide!!!
But Ill still keep celebrating for critical and her “far left America that she lives in” yayyyyyyyyy!
heh. Yes, I believe I’ve seen those poll results. Thank you for bringing them to my attention. Again. Enjoy your evening of copying and pasting.
Why so Socialist?
I had a chance to scroll through the comments posted by people, and I was disappointed by the ignorance and lack of respect exhibited by many of them. Looks like we have to send a great number of these folks back to grade school so that they can learn to spell and write something in English. They remind me of a moron who recently returned to some little town in Texas— was it Crowford? Or something like that. What a sorry situation! No wonder we are nearly at the bottom of the educated nations in the world. Shame.
Harp….your welcome…
But dont go yet…we still celebrating Critical’s far left America….yayyyy!
BTW Critical…most far lefties tend to ignore anyone to the right of them so of course I would understand why most you talk to are “progressive”
But of course polls arent dialogue so cant trust em!
I’m assuming you all have health insurance.
Otherwise there is no argument against a change. Medicare, MEdicaid and the VA are much more efficient than the private insurers. Insurance companies-of all sorts- are making bank on you and laughing. And using your money to pay congressmen to keep it that way.
geez.
First of all, the video does not have Obama saying that a national healthcare plan will wipe out private insurers. He says employer financed healthcare will probably disappear in time… and it will either with or without a healthcare plan. Employers are already cutting back on their contributions. Our foreign competitors DO NOT have to pay health care costs to their workers since most nations have a national plan.
Second of all, how do you think private insurers make money (and they make billions). How do you think the CEO’s of medical insurance companies reap 20-30 million dollars a year. 3 ways: raise rates (and they do), deny benefits (and they do) and make it difficult for doctors to receive reimbursement (and they do).
But unfortunately, most posters here are more interested in slogans, namecalling, venting and political head banging. You’ll probably get what you deserve…to be taken again by the insurers and the demagogues in league with them…Enjoy!
I like how you had to go back to 2003 to try and make a point.
It is obviously taken parsed in a way that makes me ashamed to be a republican.
Sorry AL just staing what is reality.You should really understand your facts before you embarrass yourseld about what you claim to know about insurance companies. Yes there are some sheisty one’s out there, but the matter of the fact is that CEOs don’t make decision regarding your health. Managed care involving committees of Drs. and Nurse Management are watching out for thier clients (the individually insured) who pay them to provide a service. like I said insurance is a business just like any other. Walmart is one of the largest money making companies, but do we blame them for making a ton of money off of Americans for selling a lot of cheap goods. just a thought! sorry if you’ve had evil evil private insurance in the past and they may have saved you from losing your home and all of your belongings for your 150,000 emergency surgery. I don’t see anyone attacking homeowners or car insurance companies, they are making a s***t ton off of people. I may need to go to the Dr. next week, wow my 300 bill was only $25…
Wow – ez – I guess your moniker says it all!! One of the bigger disappointments is: those out there who didn’t vote … how do you like him now?
Joel you little liar… You are an Obama Marxist asssswhole just like Obomit is. Fuuuuckk you both!
I love the hypocrisy of everyone who, all of sudden, has problems with big government. This is the same old tired rant of the neo-conservative and conservative alike. We hear it all the time…”big government this and big government that”…”bleeding heart liberals want big government to take control of our lives.” You are the same folks who were more than happy, for eight years (stolen years, I might add) to roll over while Cheney, and everyone else who had their hands up the back-side of the puppet-president Bush, were working to systematically destroy every freedom that our Founding Fathers worked for you.
If it had been left up to you, we would not have had to worry about big government because we would have been living under a right-wing fascist regime. Luckily, the Founding Fathers built something that seems to be too resilient for anyone to mess up too badly. Shame on you for your barely hidden racism and your immature response to the American people getting what they voted for…a new direction in politics that might, just might, mean that we move back to Rule of Law governance instead of Martial Law governance…Our Forefathers have stopped turning in their graves, with no help from any of you. God Bless America and thank goodness that you all have the right to your rigidity of thought. Takes every kind of people to make the world go ’round. I love you all!
Barry Sortero is a “LIER LIER PANTS ON FIRE!”
Oh and by the way; Barrack and the DNC hate White People and America!
hey skp, which freedom did you lose under Bush. I bet you will bust a blood vessel trying to show even one loss of freedom under Bush. So skp, shut the heck up you worthless little troll.
The new great life under Obama is going to kill us all. Hope and change were used by Hitler and Stalin. I think it is a bit simplistic to believe such idiotic claims.
Destroying America one policy at a time! Thank a far-left Democrat!
Hey Richard – I’m not intereted in name calling or anything else. I’m interested in the truth and that is not what we are getting from Obama and the rest of the liberals. The truth is that a government option has the sole purpose of eliminating employer-provided health insurance and it will do just that. In the video Obama says that they won’t get rid of it all at one, it will take some time. Read Rule For Radicals by Saul Alinsky and you’ll understand their goal.
By the way, our foreign competitors have crap health care and does not compare to the US.
Now to quote you:
How do you think the government will save billions of dollars a year. 3 ways: raise taxes (and they do), deny benefits (and they do) and make it difficult for doctors to receive reimbursement (and they do). How long do you think it will take for those increased taxes to hit people making over $100K a year? How about $75K? If you tink it won’t happen because Obama says it won’t you are a fool.
As for rates going up, have you ever considered the rising cost of health care (including the cost of keeping people alive), the rising cost of lawsuits and the rarely-mentioned increase in government mandates? Of course the only reason rates go up is because the greedy and evil insruance companies want to make more money.
There is so much more to this argument but there is not enough room. If you really want to learn something about this, check out:
http://changewedontneed.blogspot.com/
And WorkingPoor, check it out as well to read about Myth #1: Government Health Care is More Efficient before you talk about Medicare and Medicaid being better than private insurance.
@ @James K August 3rd, 2009 – 2:34 pm
Hey Starhawk, the answer is yes, and easily. It’s because I disagree with your premise that God gave man free-will. You see, I’m an old school Christian, the kind that follows in the lines of Sproul, MacArther, Grudem, Spurgeon, Luther, Calvin, Augustine, Paul, Jesus, et al.
And I’d have to say that God gets to be above the conservative/liberal political paradigm (it’s the whole King of Kings, trump card kind of deal).
Noel, it is a great post thanks for writing it!
kmichaels,
Thank you for proving my point by reacting with “you worthless little troll” and I will not “bust a blood vessel trying to show even one loss of freedom under Bush”. Our freedom of speech/expression has been severely undermined if not lost. It ceased to have value under the Patriot Act. Please try reading sometime…it is amazing what you can learn from original sources rather than getting all of your “facts” from Fox News. Original sources, just so we have this clear, means original documents and words instead of cleverly pasted together news footage.
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you do have the capacity to think for yourself. This despite the fact that you have not demonstrated anything close to thinking for yourself. You are a mouth flapping…a mouthpiece for people who, while I may disagree with them, at least think for themselves. Prove me right…say something intelligent. I dare ya’!
Watch out old folks. This guy has no problem getting rid of babies in the third trimester. He will have no problem getting rid of
people of social security age.
Its good to see that there are outlets like this who will expose obama. The state run media (abc, nbc, msnbc, cnn, cbs, etc) all try to hide videos like this and run cover for this socialist. Hopefully this non-sense, euro-healthplan gets defeated. Just say No to socialism!
You have to give credit to the ObamaBots who are leaving their comments attacking this video. Forget the fact that their points are without any plausable merritt, and forget that their talking points are lame as their leaders at DailyKos [spread inaccuracies on the net], ACORN [the race baiters], and Moveon.dum [Genearal Betrayus] have again fallen down on their Communist styled jobs of wagging their dog.
The fact that Obama has so many Communist styled tax exempt political action groups behind him is notable due to their blatantness, and to it being so frightening an occurence inside of America.
peter c,
Are you serious? I hope not because your comments about Obama as the anti-christ were so funny, in their ignorance and lack of supportive truth, that I am laughing so hard that I am crying. Thank you for the best laugh I have had all night. “Love thy neighbor as thy self.” – Jesus…Doesn’t say one type of neighbor over another. As someone with some real bible study in her past, let me tell you that you don’t have a clue of what Jesus was about. Love, not Fear, my friend…Love, not Fear!
It is time that we realized that healthcare should not be a choice or anything other than a public service. We should not ever worry if we lose our job or decide to change jobs how our healthcare will be affected. If we get sick or just want to see a doctor for something that should be something that is provided to everyone equally. This is not socialism, this is just decent thinking.
Personally I have been working at the same job for 15 yrs and have never had to worry about healthcare, but if I decide to quit and start a business I could see this one of the issues that would derail that process. I really see this as a no brainer, everyone needs healthcare so there should be some system in place to make this happen for everyone. TO leave this in the hands of insurance companies or employers(as much as I love my company) is just crazy.
Hey WorkingPoor – Check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLs7Cybnqw
At about 3:15 of the video a veteran comments on the health care he receives from the VA. It doesn’t sound “much more efficient”.
If you are part of the working poor, which would you rather have: Medicaid or a voucher that you could use to purchase your own private health insurance? Giving vouchers to the working poor is an idea for true “reform” that gives power to you and not the government. I agree that there are people that need help and we should try to do that, but more government is not the answer. Give the power back to the people. Put the decisions back with the people and let them make their own choices.
Here’s a few ideas: Remove excessive government mandates on health insurance providers (one of the main reasons premiums keep going up – do you really need massage therapy covered under your insurnace plan?). Make it possible to buy health insurance across state lines. Reform the tax code and make it so that individuals would get the same tax benefits as employers when buying individual health insurance. Expand Health Savings Accounts so that people have more tax-free dollars to pay for health care. People need to understand that employers pay their employees and provide health insurance as part of a compensation package. They allocate X amount of dollars for health insurance. If the employee stopped viewing this as “free” health insurance and viewed it as taking money away from their salary they’d want more say in how those X dollars are spent. Implementing true reform could give the employee some say, ultimately giving them more power and freedom.
And one last one: Implement tort reform.
Have a good night…
For those saying this is edited…you are all nothing but a bunch of Obama-flavored koolaid drinking sheeple. EVERY snip has a date the comments were made. Each is a separate instance of Obama proving he is a socialist to the core. NONE of these clips are edited to make the man (yes, democrats, he is a man)say anything different than what he actually said. Your attempts to say this has been edited is a futile attempt at an answer to his obvious hatred for American way of life–you cannot explain what your man is doing, so you say the video is edited. Next, you will say it’s not really Obama, but a vantriliquist dummy…
Honestly people, can anyone believe a word that comes from obama, senators, house members, obamas administration, or giggle gibbs?
Vote all these losers out next election!
Wicked45 – You are 100% correct. But this could be accomplished without the government. True reform would make this happen. The “reform” being pushed right now only gives you portability if you are in the government option, if not you have the same option you have now. This is one more way they are moving us to a single-payer system.
Consider your situation. Your employer provides some amount of health insurance, I assume. They also pay you a salary along with the taxes that go with that. This is your compensation package. How much say do you have in your health insurance? How much choice do you have? If the government option is passed how much choice will you have to keep your current insurance? The answer is NONE. Your employer makes all of the choices.
Now let’s say they implement true reform (see post above). Your employer can stop paying X dollars a year for your health insurance and give it to you directly. You can then buy your own insurance (across state lines if it is cheaper) from whoever YOU choose to buy it from. You will make the choices. You will decide if you need catastrophic coverage or a more comprehensive policy (which you’ll pay more for). What you do with the rest of the money is YOUR choice. You will get the same tax benefits as your employer meaning that the money you spend on health insurance will be tax deductible. You can choose to put some of the money into a Health Savings Account to pay for deductibles and any other out of pocket expenses. You will have a bigger stake in determining if the red or blue pill is right for you because you will be paying for it. The more you save the more you keep. If you decide to leave your job, your insurance plan follows you. You just continue to pay the premium. If you can find the insurance cheaper somewhere else, you can switch.
Now, there does have to be some controls put on the insurance companies. They do need to cover people regardless of pre-existing conditions. They do need to continue to cover people even though they get sick. There are some reasonable limits that have to be placed on insurance companies for this to work. But the whole point is to keep government out of it as much as possbile and put the power back in the consumers’ hands.
These are just my opinions but I do not trust the government to run health care.
I have been slogging my way through the House version of the bill–at least as it was originally proposed. It absolutely phases out private insurance. It doesn’t keep you from continuing to use your current insurance, but it does freeze your plan for the next 5 years–absolutely NO changes.
So if a new drug comes out, your plan can’t cover it. No premium changes, etc. AND, if you aren’t part of the plan the day before the government plan is voted in, you can’t be added. So you best not plan on changing jobs in the next 5 years or you will not be able to get onto your private employer’s policy.
After 5 years, the private program has to conform to government requirements–so essentially it has to be the same as the government program. Why would employers continue to pay for a private insurance program that is essentially the same as the government program. Why would YOU pay for private insurance when the government insurance is the same and you are already paying for it in taxes?
So yes, you can still have private employer-provided insurance, but why would you? The quality of care will decrease and the cost increase because your taxes will increase (and don’t foolishly think “the rich” are going to pay for this–if you have a job, YOU are “the rich”). JUST READ THE PROPOSED BILL. It’s there for you to see. You don’t need to watch over-edited video clips to figure out what’s happening here.
Every word that comes out of those purple lips is a lie!!!!!
Obama has clearly lied to the public about his true motives.
Yeah..really good editing. Obama and the left wing radicals never uttered those words… Hey…I have a bridge…..
WOW!!!
Was that “edited” and “chopped up” to the MAX… :P
Are you all just enemies of America too that just wish to use and concoct things like this to only bait our tards here into damaging our county…
Be very aware of America hating propaganda now!!!!!!!!!!!…
Propaganda over the net, to sites like this, is trivial to do….
Don’t fall for this BS…
Does Obama’s lying really surprise you? Look at his mentors. Look at his philosophical underpinnings. The proverb “raise up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it” doesn’t just apply to raising children with Judeo-Christian values–it puts forth the observation that the philosophical foundation you build for a child will guide him throughout his life.
Look at his childhood influences and experiences. Look at the influences in his college and law school careers. Look at who he chose a friends and co-workers. Look where he put his efforts. They will tell you something about how he fucntions, what he believes. He knew he had to throw his former friends under the bus to get where he wanted to go, but it was worth it for “the cause”–the one they all embrace. Read what these folks have written. Read where their philosophical ideas came from–read the history of the progressive movement in America to understand where his ideas came from and where they are leading.
His lies are no surprise. Other politicians have used these tactics in the past–with disasterous results. The best thing we can do now is WAKE UP! Rattle the cages of our congressmen and senators. Don’t let them pass bills WE haven’t read (’cause we KNOW they aren’t reading them). Take responsibility for your own future. Get involved. Write your representatives (after you’ve read the legislation for yourself–or at least enough of it to speak intelligently on the subject). AND VOTE!!!!!
My Sister died of colon cancer – Screaming for the last three days of her life in a Hospital in England unde their National Health system – THE MORPHINE WAS RATIONED. IS THAT WE ALL WANT????
We are about to be turned into Slaves – just working for our Masters -’Big Government’ (or Big Brother) – should we call it ‘reverse slavery’?????????? BO has forgotten he’s actually 50% white or, perhaps, he doesn’t care as long as he can control every aspect of our lives.
By the way–please use spellcheck before submitting your posts–you look ignorant when you use poor grammar and spelling. “LIAR” is spelled with an “a” not an “e”. There are multitudes of other grammatical and spelling errors in your posts–don’t be fools.
If you want to convince others of the validity of your point compose carefully and proofread well. Educate yourselves. Get a copy of Strunk and White’s “Elements of Style” and William Zinser’s “On Writing Well.”
Deematt that is obviously a lie. Morphine is not even a drug they use to snow people with cancer.
I honestly believe the INMATES HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ASYLUM.
The so-called Beerfest (last week) was as nutty as the MAD HATTERS PARTY in ALICE IN WONDERLAND
To Wicked 45 – You obviously don’t have a clue – God Forbid you ever get cancer and need morphine to ease the pain. At least my Husband managed to have enough Morphine when he was dying of cancer here in the United States. Get Real.
OBGYNs are always encouraging their patients to give themselves “Self Breast Exams” before actual diagnostics are done. Barney Fwank, innovator that he is, is shown below giving his Boy Toy a “Friendly Colonoscopy.”
http://www.attilathehoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/barney-frank-hand-on-ass1.jpg
To all of those denying of the content of the video because it is edited. There are time stamps on the video ranging from 2003 to 2009. You know what else? The video shows Barney Frank and a female democratic spokeswoman. Of course the video was edited. That should be blatantly obvious to any idiot that views it.
That does not change the future that Obama envisions as he has outlined his plan throughout the years of a single payer system that puts private healthcare out of business. This message is shared by two other Democrats in the video. Let’s just hope is falling poll numbers and the fractured Democratic party can’t get this done until Republicans take back the house and Senate in 2010.
Additionally the declaration of independence ensures life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There is no mention of a nanny state providing healthcare to all. To those who don’t believe government take over of healthcare is a short trip away from socialism all I can say is that I pity your lack of judgment and naivety.
I am sorry about what happened to your sister. No. No, we don’t want to end up like that. I was just reading an earlier post where a Canadian contributor challenged the idea that Obama’s proposal is socialist and supported it by point out that Canada, England and France all have similar systems.
First, I’m not aware of anyone who flocks to Canada and England for medical treatment. When I was in France, medical treatment was actually pretty good, but that was 20 years ago–I have no idea what it is like now. I noticed, however, that the standard of living in France in general was not what we experience here. Not that I didn’t enjoy my time there, but I was glad to get home. Would I move there? Maybe, but not for the medical system.
Second, I don’t want the taxes that those countries have. I would rather pay directly for my medical costs (or at least through private medical coverage) rather than paying into an inefficient government system (because no matter what you say, government run anything is inefficient). Also, I do agree that something has to be done to address the rapidly rising cost of medical treatment. Perhaps the most effective thing that can be done is tort reform. Work on protecting doctors from frivilous malpractice claims. Don’t allow jury trials for medical malpractice.
Third, basically the post was right. Obama is not embracing socialism on an economic level. He has embraced and instituted a fascist economic policy (although he is more socialistic in his cultural and political points of view–but give him time–I believe he will drift toward more radical places).
Anyway, the best thing we can do is educate ourselves and others about what is really going on. Wake each other up and get out there to protest. Write your representatives. Resist. Resist. Resist.
Wicked45–
Actually, my cousin, who died a few years ago after a long battle with cancer, was given morphine (or a derivative thereof) for pain toward the end. My dad, who happily has survived several bouts with cancer, has been given morphine at various times throughout his treatment. You make some good points, but I think you may need to look up your sources more carefully on this point.
Republicans…..instead of criticizing….come up with an alternate plan.
Because the current system is not good.
To Wicked 45 – I can only speak of personal experiences. Both incidents were personal and observed by me since they involved my own Sister and my own Husband.
So, I am the source – I have no need to look for other sources.
I can also cite what happened to my own Brother who had a clogged artery in his leg and ended up unable to walk.
He went to the National Health Hospital in Bristol. England and was told he had a choice – either go on the waiting list for two years or pay three thousand pounds that day to have it ‘blown out’.
You see, although I am now an U.S. citizen, I was born and raised in England so I do have First Hand knowledge – I don’t need ’sources’.
There are a lot of people in this world that would like to see change for the unfortunate, I feel blessed to live in a Country where I have a say in what I can choose for Medical coverage. I don’t have a say in what I pay for Medicare. I just pay for what they tell me to every working day of my life. I have a friend that told me she just spent 400 in food stamps all by herself, and invited friends over for a buffet–hmm makes you think about the Government a bit.. this is what we have become. What they really need is a cap on Meds and control over the Health system. Hospitals charge insurance companies whatever they want. This is the reason why rate go up, so companies don’t go bankrupt–it’s inflation all around and we can’t win. For every good change that is made, someone else suffers–but it’s for the greater good in Obama’s eyes. just a comment seeing from the inside
Deematt–
You seem to have read my post to Wicked45 in support of you as if it was attacking you. I realize that you are, as I am, speaking from firsthand experience of seeing loved-ones suffer. I agreed with your point that morphine is routinely used to treat pain in cancer sufferers in the U.S. and I encouraged Wicked45 to check his sources.
Brett–
Look here http://www.healthtransformation.net/ for Republican ideas and proposals on health care reform–not all Republicans are simply complaining.
Copy the link and email it to everyone you know — and ask them to do the same….
Wicked45 …shame on you and your comment…you pulled that out of thin air:
“Deematt that is obviously a lie. Morphine is not even a drug they use to snow people with cancer”
Morpine is used all the time at the end with people dying of cancer, i just lost a good friend to mesothelioma and he was morphine in the end.
You need to apologize and quick. Shame, shame , shame on you!
deematt August 3rd, 2009 – 10:53 pm – Oh, cry me a river!
Your sister very well could have had pain, so severe, that it could not be relieved by any amount of drugs, without euthanizing her. Controlled substances are rationed in this country by way of MDs fear of the DEA. The right wing law and order crowd loves the police state. I think it’s because they hate freedom.
Even Rushbo couldn’t find a legal way to relieve all the pain he was in, and I sure his ‘roids are every bit as agonizing as cancer.
GOD BLESS ALL AMERICANS
Well done video. At least Bawney Fwank tells it like it is. They want everyone dependent on the gov’t for everything – including our lives. Just say NO!
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Shel1–
Some interesting points. Directly to the point about how private health care works, hospitals don’t charge whatever they want–insurance companies negotiate with hospitals and doctors for what they will pay. It is not a perfect system, but it probably is about the best we can figure out on that side of things.
What the Democrats are proposing is that the government should declare what it will pay for medical care and hospitals/doctors will have to accept that. The medical world argues that this is likely to lead to less innovation in medical research and treatment. Who knows? I just know that I don’t like the idea of having the same people who run the Social Security Administration (ever stood in line there?) or the DMV run my medical care.
Where the money is really going in the system is to attorneys like me. Well, not like me, because I don’t do medical malpractice. But you get the point. The cause of rising health care has more to do with doctors having to practice defensive medicine–ordering unnecessary tests and treatments to avoid frivolous med-mal suits. That part of the problem needs to be addressed and it won’t be under Obama’s plan.
Also, I’m not sure what to do about research, etc. That really does drive up the cost of prescriptions, etc. Do I want medical research to slow down? I don’t know. But am I willing to pay increasingly high prices for the newest and best drugs? I don’t know. Further, must everyone have the latest drugs? I read somewhere that many of the older drugs are just as effective but that physicians prescribe the newer ones because they are more aggressively marketed. I don’t know. Seems like this is a piece of the puzzle too. I don’t really want some panel of people in Washington, D.C. looking at my medical records and deciding that I don’t neet the blue pill, though. I’d rather have my doctor make that call.
It’s a mess. I like Newt Gingrich’s ideas–at least he is thinking positively and creatively without trying to encourage government growth.
And notice how the wicked witch Pelosi is now demonizing insurance companies!!!!!!! While at the same time they are repeating the BIG LIE that they just want subsidized gov’t “competition”. Sorta like they just want subsidized, gov’t owned car companies, banks, fannie mae and freddie mac, to use gov’t to squelch free speech on talk radio etc. Totalitarianism here we come, unless the people continue to raise hell!
Seems to be about Survival now, not making money anymore…..No one is to blame, we are human and have done a fantastic job of surviving so far I think. I feel blessed to be able to sit here and type on my Wi-fi because some crazy smart person invented free internet and might I add we all have a roof over our heads too. signed MoM
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To Brett – DidUReadTheBill, My sincere apologies – I was responding to what I thought was a post from Wicked 45 telling me to check my sources.
On double-checking, I see what a terrible mistake I made.
I’m truly sorry – it’s late at night – perhaps I should ask Big Brother to tuck me up in bed and sing a Lullaby since we’re now in the Nanny State. Please accept my apology and Thanks for your support.
Thank you too August 3rd, 2009. Dee
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BigScrotum–
Someone needs to kick you in yours! What an ass! This woman has obviously experienced very painful deaths of two loved ones. Her point was that pain medication, whether morphine or otherwise, was rationed.
Your point is true that pain meds short of overdosing don’t mask the pain of cancer at the end. That is why advanced medical directives contain a clause that specifies that you WANT pain meds in a dose that will relieve pain EVEN IF the dose might end your life as a secondary result.
You are an insensitive idiot who should keep his trap shut unless he has something of actual value to add to the conversation.
If this Obamacare is such a great idea for us, please explain why the Dems in Congress refused to include a provision in the current committee bill to include themselves?
That’s right…they exempt themselves from nationalized health care, yet try to shove it down our throats. Nothing should give folks a clearer picture.
Search for “Waxman exempts Congress from healthcare” to see details. Any Libs want to defend this act or just call us names?
WHAT A CROCK.
SO THE CLIP BOILS DOWN TO ONE LINE WHERE HE SAYS HE WANTS TO GET RID OF EMPLOYER INSURANCE.
EMPLOYER INSURANCE DOES NOT EQUAL PRIVATE INSURANCE.
EVEN THE CORPORATIONS WOULD LOVE TO DITCH EMPLOYER INSURANCE. WE COULD DITCH EMPLOYER INSURANCE TODAY AND IT WOULD JUST MEAN THAT EVERYONE WOULD PURCHASE THEIR OWN INSURANCE (I.E. STILL A PRIVATE INSURANCE SYSTEM).
THEN THEY THREW IN LOTS OF QUOTES OF OTHER PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE PAYER.
GOOD LORD, ARE YOU GUYS SO HAPPY WITH YOUR PRIVATE INSURANCE COVERAGE? PRIVATE INSURANCE COVERAGE SUCKS. THEY SCREW YOU ALL THE TIME, DROP YOU AT WILL, WILL NEVER COVER YOU IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN ILLNESS. IT’S A JOKE, OUR PRIVATE INSURANCE SYSTEM IS A JOKE AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT BY NOW.
BECAUSE POLL AFTER POLL SHOWS THAT AMERICANS HATE THE CURRENT HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. I KNOW I HATE IT, MY INSURANCE COMPANY IS A BUNCH OF DICKS AND I CAN’T TRUST THEM WORTH A DAMN!
Tom Waite, MD, PhD
New York
Obama is a Socialist God, all of the Socialist Dictators worship him, as he is “The One” to get elected and turn the Land of Opportunity and to land of Socialist Slaves……………
Dr. Waite,
Have you read the house bill that was proposed? (HR 3200) It effectively phased out private coverage within 5 years. Do you support the plans that are being put forth by Congress? Or do you agree with me that while reform is needed, the plans on the table aren’t what we need?
Tom–
What is your PhD in? Also, are you currently practicing medicine? You don’t appear in the physician’s directories for NY. Are you really who you say you are?
I like the comments here accusing this site of editing the video clips to make it “appear” to be what the headline claims. For chrissake, just LISTEN to OBAMA … his message is quite clear, and his agenda is rotten to the core. No need to doctor any video.
US has the greatest health care in the world. Despite his speeches and rhetoric, I think our current President is smart enough to realize this.
I suspect President Obama is fighting so hard to radically overhaul our health care system because he feels the demographics of the uninsured are all wrong. (Obama translator: the current system is racist and unfair.)
no tom isnt on the physician’s directories for NY. OMG good factchecking did you! Simple online check!
AND the most recent polls have 80% of insured totally satisfide with their coverage.
To Larse and Diana Powe,
I have seen these videos before. I follow what is going on, Obama and Franks said this. Yes, what they said before and after was taken out, but those are their words. If I say, “I will use yellow paint and I will paint you yellow,” then, someone edits me and takes out ‘I will use yellow paint and,’ and leaves, “I will paint you yellow,” that is exactly what I said, “I will paint you yellow.”
Is it possible that the two of you simply just are enamored with Obama? I do nothing by feelings or strictly along party lines.
Obama is a socialist and that is a fact. He chose Marxist professors, etcetera. He said it himself. Read his books.
To EVERYBODY – Please get informed and read PAGE 425 of the proposed health care bill. It will scare you to death.
On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Health care will be denied based on age. $500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first. Paying for your own care will not be an option.
CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON. Tell them to read page 425 if they don’t read anything else. Surely some of them have parents.
At least a person in England can pay for private health insurance (on top of National Health) but WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT OPTION.
You should all pay attention to comments from DIDUREADTHEBILL.
He is obviously very well informed.
One point for Obama, no points for the people who don’t understand the context of this comment. You rightwingers are idiots.
My brother, B-rock has gots brass balls and it will take a blow torch to melt those babies down to size. got a match?
What a bunch of lunatics, average IQ here must be lower than body temp.
All the Boobamabots can’t be on welfare? Can they? I am sure that their is at least a token few who have private health insurance they are satisfied with? If so then you should be worried as h*ll about this charlatan’s plans to do away with private insurance? He is getting closer to realizing his Socialist dream of an America completely controlled by the government with all the proleteriat properly dependent upon the all knowing and all powerful government! He would of course be elevated to the stature of a god and worshipped as such! That is until the country goes broke and falls apart like all the other grand Socialist experiments? Then the military will step in like in one of those third world African nations with a corrupt despot at the head! Notions like a Constitution or Bill of Rights will just be another outdated idea since Barry knows best! King of Mombasa! All Hail!
DidUReadtheBill August 3rd, 2009 – 11:56 pm
Did deematt pull your heartstrings?
Sorry, but I’ll bite when you, her, and your breed, which populate this country give a hoot about more than you and yours. So deematt’s opportunistic story designed to score political points grabs you? Well, she and hers are just an enigma, like the millions, yeah millions whose life stories are just as compelling if you cared to think about it.
Trust me, you and yours, and me and mine, will have our bottoms being wiped by someone who cannot afford health insurance, while working full-time.
Be a Christian, or if not, just don’t be a selfish, greedy, ungrateful and miserly citizen. You can still have a fishing boat and your castle. Just don’t mouth off to a tough guy cop.
When reading what some of these Obama lovers write, it should scare the hell out of u if u have children or grandchildren. They wont have a life! 1. Yes insurance companies make a profit, but thet turn that profit into research and development of drugs and technology. Use ur brain and realize how this world has develop over the past 60yrs because of the U.S.A. and the capitist system. No other country has done more for mankind than this country. We give more charity than any other country we send more food to other parts of the world than anyone else. This will all change under a socialist u.s.a. In return the rest of the world will suffer as well.
Use that brain again and ask urself why do people from all parts of the world want to come to America. I’ll tell u: For the chance to give their family a better life!
When u watch discovery channel, history ch, etc and u see these kids with crippling health issues. What country are these kids going to for their health care? U.S.A. not canada, not great britan and damm sure not the great health sysyem of Cuba.
Realize we are the greatest country in the world for freedom, liberty, and indivdual rites. Don’t throw it away because u believe in some utopia one world nation. Think! Think! Think! use the brain god gave u!
By the way I don’t work for some insurance company. I’m just normal dude who only makes around 25,000 a yr and doesn’t have health care. On top of that I have crohens disease. But I have enough sense to know the govt could care less about me. Real reform would be to lower cost so I can afford heaalth care and tort reform!
God bless America
Why is it that such an obviously dysfunctional system of health care has so many defenders? Any change, even a socialist one, would be better than the present one where greed is the only virtue that matters. Didn’t people learn enough about unbridled greed during this recession/depression? All of us are one illness away from bankruptcy. Millions of hard working Americans can’t afford health insurance. The irony of this all is that many of the same people attacking change are actually defending a government program – Medicare. Grow up and think about someone other than yourselves. This baby boom generation is better known as the “I’ve got mine” generation. The only problem is that when our country is bankrupted by the spiraling costs of medical care, you will have nothing.
The Marxist in his own words. His goal: to destroy private enterprise.
These brain dead Libs never cease to amaze me? They are bereft of any kind of faith in anything except themselves and the Mombasa Kid! So they are willing to allow this country to be destroyed like all the others in history by going Socialist? Our healthcare system is not near as bad as you Libs portray it and the stats prove this! Not all the people with good health insurance are rich Conservatives either many are just regular working folks! Yes, there are some problems but we do not need to destroy the whole system to fix these issues which is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater! I will tell you one thing though, we are not responsible for all the illegal aliens who came here illegally, if they want free healthcare and support they can return to Mexico or wherever the heck they are from? I refuse to pay for that and if people are lazy and would rather be drug addicts/alcoholics/criminals instead of work then why are us working folks responsible for that and the kids they keep popping out? If they are going to be on the public dole then act like dogs and cats then maybe they need to be spayed and neutered too!
The only people that aren’t thrilled at the prospect of eliminating the big insurance companies are the ones that have never had to file a major claim. Also, the VA and Medicare both have higher customer satisfaction than private insurance. But watch all the weak little repubs scream that the sky is falling.
deematt August 4th, 2009 – 12:31 am
“.. read PAGE 425 of the proposed health care bill.” So it really said all that, liar?
DidUReadTheBill August 3rd, 2009 – 10:19 pm
“..JUST READ THE PROPOSED BILL. It’s there for you to see. You don’t need to watch over-edited video clips to figure out what’s happening here.”
I really wish you had put this in the very first line of your post, instead it was the last. Yes, I was fooled. When said you were “slogging” through the bill, I thought I’d be enlightened. It was disappointing when, all of a sudden, you crashed and burned in a heap illogic.
Actually wading into the bill and then “reporting” something factual, may be too much of a challenge for you.
As a friendly suggestion, a big contribution you could make, would be to spellcheck others posts. Everyone appreciates it, you are good at it, and this will please you.
As someone who has had to self-insure as a contractor and file a major claim, (surgery with minor post-op complications),I was amazed at the support I got from an “evil” major insurer. Six-figure bill, about 8% out of pocket. Told the hospital I had to set up a payment plan, and they dropped 10% off the top. I did do research when I got the policy to basically cover catastrophic problems/major surgery and took max deductible. And it worked! The biggest glitch was when I had to explain to one doctor’s billing clerk she had to put “Pre-Op Diagnosis” on the claim to get re-imbursed, (which I found out with one phone call to the “evil” insurance company. How many of these problems are caused by inept clerks? And who thinks the government is going to improve this? I find most people that complain put more effort researching their car insurance than their health insurance.
Right wing, left wing, centrist, Republican, Democrat, the poor, the rich, the middle class, if you are American and do not work for the federal government,you will be screwed by socialized medicine. Where does the Constitution grant such power to Washington? Why does anyone support it?
There are better ways for us to take care of each other. To gut the entire health care system for 12-15 million chronically uninsured is just plain nuts. Stupid. Irresponsible. Damaging. Against the majority. FIGHT.
You liberals amuse me! Even with evidence right in your face, you still can’t see the truth. There was no editing the part of the video he said in 2003 he is for single-payer. There was no editing when he said the employee insurance option wouldn’t be eliminated immediately, but would take years. Forget that you are a kool-aid supporter of anything any democrat says, but think about how your options for health insurance will diminish, the quality of your care will suffer and your taxes will go up. My gosh, we republications didn’t agree with everything GWB supported, medicare, no child left behind, immigratation reform, etc. Use your head for a moment and try not to get your ego bruised that the man you voted for turned out to be a facade.
Anyone that even remotely falls for this stuff must have an IQ of about 10.
Jumping…..Can u not see through the liberal congress bullshit? If our health system is so bad then why does congress want to keep their private insurance, and only put the regular folks on govt control health care. It’s called Control! It won’t be cheaper, it won’t be more efficent, it will be rationed for us. Every socialist country the govt has everthing while us regular folks will have just the basic necessities to survive. Why would u want to live like that? If u do then just move to Cuba!
Sure it’s pieced together, it’s illustating the point that for the past several years Obama had the opinion of a single health plan. What’s changed his early beliefs?
My guess is he’s just saying what he has to say in order to achieve his end result.
When speaking to a group , I find politicians say what the crowd in front of them wants to hear and when they say something different to an another group , it doesn’t matter . The previous group has already tuned out and is satisfied .
I believe Obama’s true stances is from his comments dating back 4 years , and if there was early tape available his single payer believes would date back further .
Presently Obama will say want needs to be said to achieve his end result
IMPEACH Dr. Chicago!
Until we realize that it is because of our abandoning God and have instead put our trust in puny government to provide for our every need, we will continue watching our country be destroyed at breakneck speed.
It is moral and spiritual corruption that is destroying our nation. A corrupt and evil government is the result of moral and spiritual bankruptcy. It has always been the case.
Until we see ourselves as God sees us, repent, and turn back to Him, He will continue abandoning us. It is time to stop trusting in an evil and corrupt group of politicians to save us. Repent, turn back to God, and then go to the polls and vote these corrupt politicans out of office!
Jeremiah 17:5 says “Cursed is the man who puts his trust in mankind, and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the Lord.” Right now we are being cursed, not blessed because of our rebellion against God.
Obama is all about government control: helthcare control, reduced personnel giving to charities, soak the rich tax schemes, absurdly high business and personal taxes. By destroying incentive and rewards in the country the government can contol everything with its limited handouts. Republicans are bad but the democrats are worse!
This might have been said previously, I don’t feel like reading the million comments, but this isn’t breitbart’s video. Very clearly on the lower right hand section of the video there is a logo for a website called youtube, you might have heard of it once or twice; this is someone’s video that they posted on youtube not breitbart’s. Just thought I would point that out.
To all u libs….If congress gets govt health care then that means congress will tell Ted Kenedy to go home and die. I don’t think so, they will do everything they can to prolong his life, on the other hand if it’s me or any of u libs that are not in govt. They will help us get in touch with hospice. How crazy is that for u kool-aid drinkers to like that plan.
David I guess ur clueless about VA care. My dad was in the military and pass away in 1991. He refused to use the Va care because it was so terrible. This was the mid 80’s…Today a military vet has to wait up to two months just to c a doctor. Educate urself before u open ur mouth..It might help u!
For all the ACORN canvassers claiming that this video misrepresents what the Democrats were talking about, how about YOU provide the full videos or some other proof that this is anything besides exactly what it looks like?
Don’t worry, I won’t be holding my breath.
dduke: what is the source for your statistics wherein you state that 95% of citizens are politically ignorant?
I just have one question. Are we already slaves of the government, or just on the verge of it?
The Administration is fighting back on this point.
Health care is something that all Americans can understand and I think that most are distrustful of goverment on this point.
LOL — Breitbart has been EXPOSED!!!
You unpatriotic extreme right wing yokels who pver edot unrelated video clips together to make up your so called news are desperate for attention.
You have been Exposed For FRAUD!!!
LOL LOL LOL
Obama admitted during the campaign that he supports a single payer system, i.e. Socialized Medicine; and, his “Government Option” is designed to force private insurers out of the market in order to achieve precisely that goal. As Obama said: “I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be potentially some transition process…” Barney Frank then unashamedly admitted that Obama’s “Public Option” was simply a Trojan Horse for surreptitiously introducing full blown Socialized Medicine. The American people have spoken loud and clear that Socialized Medicine is anathema; but, Obama’s Marxist psyche prohibits him from accepting free market reforms which should begin with shutting down illegal immigration and Tort Reform, both of which Obama unconditionally rejects. Obama’s ACORN is busily registering illegals; and, Trial Lawyers are among his principal campaign contributors. But the most insidious part of Obama’s plan is the coming bureaucratic denial of life saving procedures for the elderly. As Obama says: “Take an aspirin” and just wait to die. ( Pg 30: SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.AND, PG 430: SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.) The elderly should revolt over Obama’s health care proposals. He learned from his wife Michelle that considerable sums of health care funds could be saved by the practice of “patient dumping” which Michelle employed in Chicago. Facts that are precisely why Health Care legislation that HAD TO BE DONE BY YESTERDAY does not take effect until 2013, i.e. AFTER the next presidential election. And, just remember that Obama and his Congressional colleagues have EXEMPTED themselves from compliance with their own proposed health care debacle. Greg Neubeck
According to Yahoo News, the White House is issuing their own YouTube propaganda video to “hit back” at this video. I’m sure the effort comes with “talking points” for their slavish followers. So, we can be sure that their posts here are straight from the White House Ministry of Propaganda.
Oh, how I wish your fears were right. But if you pay attention to the video clip closely you see that your claim is a LIE! He never says reform will eliminate private insurance.
I dare you to show more of the clip with the comment about “eliminating employers’ coverage”, because I’m certain that showing more would also show how are you LYING.
Be very afraid, be very afraid, Obama is going to take over the white country and run
all these white folks out, so be very afraid. All the republican commenting here
shows a lot of fear and insecurity. Each of you need therapy, please go see a shrink
to help you deal with your fears and insecurities. You ccannot live like this, stirring
up lies and watching
false reporting to make yourselves feel better. Contribute to your society in a meaningfu
ful way, don’t succumb to fear and panic. I feel sorry for every single republican who
cannot get over the fact that Obama is president – get used to it fools.
melissa,
I feel sorry for every single Obamaton incapable of thinking objectively, and who feels obligated to defend the President from (gasp) actual criticism. Democrats are digging themselves a pretty big hole this time, and we can only hope that when they jump in, you guys go with them, and take the shovel. If the damage they’re doing to the country in the meantime weren’t so horrific, it would be amusing. You don’t like it? Get used to that.
Socialism? CHIT! Everything Bam Bam is doing now are SLAVERY REPARATIONS under the blanket of socialism!!! Steal from ‘Da Crackers’ and give to the welfare leeches!
Its not an accident that the worlds largest economy, the worlds largest exporter and the worlds largest manufacturing region is the “socialist” European Union, and that a communist dictatorship, German is in first place as a nation when it comes to both exports and manufacturing, China in second places as a manufacturing power and third in size of its economy, while the U.S. follows these three. The E.U. and Germany largely accomplish this by their social safety net, which moves the burden for providing health care from businesses to the entire region or nation. Because of this Germany has retained manufacturing industries and the jobs that go with them, while the same industries and jobs have long since fled the United States.
Without a shared national health system, the U.S. is simply destined to fall even further behind.
America as the worlds leading power ran concurrrently with its place as the worlds largest economy and being the worlds largest exporter. The broken health care system is part of the reason why it no longer is.
What a load of bull. If you keep chopping up video to make propaganda, you’re going to ruin what little credibility you have left. Done properly the hidden agendas would be able to portray Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (President of Iran) as a good candidate for the 2012 Republican nomination for President of the United States. In a word- MENTAL.
If they only tax those that want to have government health care, just like private insurance, then it’s not a takeover. If they government is inserting a “trojan horse” like Freddie/Fannie into a free market environment, where we are ALL on the hook to pay for the government program then it is a takeover.
I realize that Obama is a socialist. But natural law doesn’t suffer fools or socialists. The plan as it’s currently set up means that if I want private insurance, I have to pay for the government insurance and the private insurance. That is theft. If 20 million illegal aliens want government health care under this socialist regime- fine. Let them pay the government for their own healthcare.
As it stands now, this is another Fannie/Freddie market warping in an ecosystem of the free market. I’m no fan of private health care, but they don’t force me to pay them either. I won’t be sent to prison for not paying for insurance I don’t use to a company I have nothing to do with. If I stop paying government healthcare taxes, I sure as hell will be thrown in jail. This plan is immoral, theft, unsustainable, discourages medical advancement in all fields, and is in fact a trojan horse.
But, it’s going to pass anyway. They don’t represent their constituents anymore. So buckle up and get ready for full blown socialism.
Obviously the Obama admin will say anything to get this monstrosity through. Anyone who can believe any politician after bankrupting Social Security and Medicare, Amtrak… their own cafeteria on Capitol Hill for crying out loud.
America must know that Democrats historically represent people who get things for free from the contributors of society. Democrats are ruthless at building pyramids of obedience (blind followers who get free stuff but don’t pay into the system). These followers will vote for anything because it’s free, they’re not paying for it. They will stop at nothing to deliver free stuff.
They pay people to “blog” and come on here and try to get you to disbelieve your own eyes and your own ears. If you go to a few sites you’ll see these same words being used everywhere. They truly believe that you will believe them rather than your own eyes and ears. They believe you will disregard the slavery you will be putting your kids and grandkids in, paying 80%+ in taxes or whatever it takes, just as long as you get free stuff!
C’mon, Dems… give the American people more credit than that. We will not let you run roughshod over us anymore. We were busy working and providing for your special interest groups, but we are awake now.
I do think Obama is evil non do I hate the man… I do belive he is being missed guided. This new health care program has too many loup holes in it.
If government takes over health care there goes freedome to choose. If government cann’t see that MOST Americans like there health care and do not want to change, that is tunnel vision. If goverment cann’t see that most people want to make sure that their parents get the best medical attention even i their finel hour than thats a problem. I understand that EVEN if the family wants to pay for treatment out of pocket they will not be able to… Yes their are a lot of people who dont have insurance & yes we should help them. But not at the cost of our health care that works. Other people from other countries come to us from health care that we do. So why are we now looking at plains that other countries have in place now???
White House Battles Matt Drudge…
Two most insignificant words: “Obama said”
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I actually began taking notes so I could respond to some of the idiots who’ve posted here with the accusation that this video is somehow a lie simply because it was edited …HELLO!! it was edited to show the EXACT QUOTES, live and on video, of what the idiot in the White House has said over the years. Did you notice the last part where she CONFIRMS the administration’s plans to eliminate private insurance? But there are so many of you I ran out of paper and all the pens in my house are now out of ink. So I’ll mention just a few: Larse, you’re a complete naive idiot …especially if you truly believe Obamma should be making our decisions FOR us because he knows better. Please wake up. People like you are why this country is screwed. Same for you Diane Powe, ez, Steve, Critical Thinking Helps, DennySmith61, and many, many more. Can some idiot lib (or one of you “I voted for Obamma [yes, I mis-spelled it intentionally] because I’m a racist, he’s black, I’m black, and/or I want him to take care of me and my 10 kids with no fathers even though I have NO CLUE about politics OR the issues this country is facing”) PLEASE explain to me how that’s false, hateful propaganda? It’s people like you, Milti and Melissa, who’ve come right out and admitted that blacks only voted for him based upon race alone because he’s black (and he’s half white! …or as Jeremy cleverly calls him, a “halfrican”. lol) with NO political knowledge. Anyone remember Marion Barry, the former mayor of DC, who was caught ON TAPE buying crack …went to jail for it …and was then re-elected by you idiots? Come on people!! I must give proper credit to the following for their various posts which make great points in one manner or another: Jeremy, More Common Sense, 2centsworth, Barry Soetoro (esp. re: ACORN), Licifer Jizwad, and Chucky Cheese1. Everyone should go back and review what they’ve posted over the last 2 or 3 days to learn some truth. I apologize if I’ve left anyone out …even those of you idiot libs, racists, and illegals who are happy with YOUR choice as our President. Thanks for F’ing our country. I hope you like Karl Marx and Marxism, Joseph Stalin, Socialism and eventually Communism …because that’s where we’re headed faster than a speeding bullet.
Never once did he say that! Anyone that actually watches the video will see at the 47 second mark that he says “I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately.”
This video falsely claims that Obama says his plan will “Eliminate private insurance”.
Yes, a single payer plan would eliminate private insurance, but that is NOT what is being discussed here people! Wake up!
See what the White House has had to put out because of this video:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
Ok, Ben. Since you insist on referring to the video, why don’t YOU actually WATCH AND LISTEN to it …especially from the :54 mark to the 1:01 mark; and from the 1:19 mark to the 1:47 mark. Let me know what you have to say then, Ben. It’s scary how we have to lead these idiots by the hand like children before they understand anything.
And I’m sure Linda Douglass, the communications director for the White House’s Health Reform Office, will tell the country the truth just as Obamma has since he’s taken office and prior, right? So naive. The man’s a complete liar, has done nothing BUT lie, and cares about NOTHING but his big-government, Commu-Socialist agenda. He and his associates, including domestic terrorists and foreign billionaires who want to take over this country, have been working on it for over 20 years. And now you idiots have put him in a position where he can actually try to make it happen. But I have faith that the TRUE American People will not let it happen. Why don’t you check this link and get back to us: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/07/20/obamacare-you-will-lose-your-current-insurance-period-end-of-story/. Copy and paste if you can’t click the link …just in case you’re as bright as I feel you are, I wanted to help you.
Larse,
What color cool aid do you drink? Let me guess! Blue? or are you an ACORN insider?
Larse August 3rd, 2009 – 12:40 am
WOW!!!
Was that “edited” and “chopped up” to the MAX…
Are you all just enemies of America too that just wish to use and concoct things like this to only bait our tards here into damaging our county…
Be very aware of America hating propaganda now!!!!!!!!!!!…
Propaganda over the net, to sites like this, is trivial to do….
Don’t fall for this BS…
“There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
Casual conversation? Wow…
They are getting pressed hard and they know it.
Private health insurance has to be eliminated for the “plan” to work. It is the only way to force 30% of those covered to pay 100% of the costs for everyone.
The government did such a wonderful job with social security, medicare and now
cash for clunkers. Can’t wait to see what they can do with healthcare.
Let’s see 46 million people without health insurance,isn’t there money to be made here by the insurance company? Form insurance groups for those un-insured and start reaping the profits. Make sense to me. BUT I bet a good portion of those 46 million people have existing conditions so the insurance company does not see the profits, so no insurance. That means they go on welfare and who pays for that, them no, us who do have insurance through taxes and higher rates. So I am not in favor of a government insurance program but it sure seems simple to me that the insuraqnce companies step up and provide sometype of affordable insurance for these folks so the governement does not. If you do not have insurance you pay 5-10 times more than those with insurance, does that make sense to anyone?
Hey I know! Let’s turn our health care over to the Marxist Mafia in DC.
DUH!!!
President Obama has done more in 7 months than the Bush/Cheney Nazi Movement has done in 8 years. The stimulus is working, reforming healthcare to give the insurance companies competition (if the government is so crappy, then why are the insurance companies shaking in their panties?), and for those who think that the government CAN’T run medical program, WTF do you think the Veterans’ Administration is, a private insurance company? HA! All you birthers and tea baggers just wake up and smell what you’re shoveling. I don’t see how you can really HATE someone this bad, and he’s only been on the job a half of a year; unless race is an issue. This is the only reason that HATRED can be THIS fierce even BEFORE he got into office. A FORGED birth certificate is NOT going to help your cause. HAHAHAHA!!! PRESIDENT BARACK HEUSSIEN OBAMA, 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Healthcare reform is central to the competitiveness of this country. Increasing health care cost is one of the main reason jobs are shipped out of the USA and migrant workers are brought in displacing US employees.
Right now, an employer is paying $6000-7000 in health insurance per employee, on top of the average $45K paid in salary. This effectively put an average employee salary at $52K, a significant premium compared to salaries in comparable developed economies in Europe and Asia. Since health insurance premium has been increasing 10% a year. IN 7 years, that same employer will be paying $14K in health insurance and $55K in salary, putting average employee compensation at $70K.
Without healthcare reform, we will continue to loss jobs and the USA will become less attractive as a place to start new companies and new businesses. While large multinationals can easily relocate their operations to India and China (and they are doing so), small and new US businesses will essentially be competing at a significant disadvantage.
The current healthcare cost, at 17% of our GDP, is a hidden tax on our entire economy.
Call it editing all you want. His words are his words. This is so powerful because there is no commentary, and no spin. This is what it is. Take it or leave it. Truth hurts sometimes.
Obama is screwing up this country…and the people are letting him do this!!!
Mark D – The NAZI movement is a left wing movement. Nazi stands for National Socialist, you moron. Notice the word Socialist? I’ll bet you do, you voted for one. They have to do as much as they can in 7 months, it’s a tactic they use so congress can’t get an opportunity to understand the bill and citizens won’t have time to oppose the bill. It’s called “Overwhelming the system”. It’s a very common tactic Democrats and Socialists use. This is not leadership, it’s a dictatorship.
Now that you know what a Nazi is, take 10 minutes and see which administration has been blurring the lines between business and government. Spend 10 minutes looking at the unique relationship GE has with this administration. Look at the unique relationship they have with Goldman Sachs.
Insurance companies are shaking in their pants because the government fully intends to drive them out of business. The government does not create a brand to compete wit the private market, they set the rules and they run at a deficit. If CEOs ran a business like government, they would be in jail. So knock it off with the competition already.
Luke Liem – I’ve heard enough from you too. Don’t tell me healthcare reform is central to the competitiveness of this country when we have the 3rd highest corporate tax rate in the world. Don’t tell me this when we are instituting cap and trade and cutting our own throats. Don’t tell me this when China and India are laughing at us for continuously tying an arm behind our backs to compete. We are the only country in the world that will not use it’s own natural resources. We kill ourselves with environmental regulations and whatever other regulations we can think of to stop capitalism.
Want to tackle healthcare, look at Texas for an answer. I hear Obama pointing to California and Massachusetts, why won’t he look to Texas? Make health care portable. Why is there no tort reform in his plan? If you’re being honest it’s because it’s political not what’s best for the people. You people are so intellectually dishonest and brain dead it disgusts me.
Now that we know what NAZI stands for, let’s get this ugly term out of the conversation. The comments by our President,even though they were edited, are to the point. We want to restrict the influence of big insurance companies, or eliminate insurance companies from being the ones who decide who gets health care, or not, in this nation. Right now, the insurance companies are driven by profit. The less ill people they can help, the more profit they will make. The percentage of our premiums paid to insurance companies that actually go toward helping the sick is less and less with time. Right now, only a minimum percentage of the premiums we pay are allocated to pay for health care— and this percentage is decreasing while the profits of the shareholders of health insurance stocks are going up. I, personally, do not want en insurance company’s CEO deciding if I should receive health care. I much prefer that my doctor decide what is good for my health, making sure that no barriers are placed if the cure will be costly.
That is why, by introducing universal health insurance coverage, we are introducing competition to these insurance companies. The hope is that the premiums we pay to the current insurance companies will be used to cure the sick, not to fatten the pockets of insurance companies and their stockholders. Many people do not see it this way because either they have been brain-washed, or they have something (politically?) at stake in this situation. They would like us to maintain the status quo because it is in their greedy and political interests. Insurance companies employ powerful, and expensive, lobbyists and other lackeys in order to stop the health care program that our president is trying to promote. It is a drastic change, but, in the long run, it will be beneficial to the American people.
fiddystorms,
Has the government run the insurance company out of business for those who live on barrier islands, for those who live in floodplains, for those who live in forests, heck no in fact the government subsidizes both the insurance companies and those who are stupid enough to build in areas that routinely get hit by hurricanes, floods and forest fires. Who pays for this you and me.
Those who scream socialism seem to forget the very recent past where American taxpayers saved all the financial organizations butts because they were making money off abstract speculation. Who is screaming about the subsidies and tax breaks given to oil companies, drug companies, farmers, foresters, steel companies, etc. etc. etc. We are and have not been for a long time a capitalist society, Government subsidies means socialism. Get It!
As far as health care costs affecting the economy all one has to do is look at the automobile industry.
I say let those who go into harms way pay the cost not you and me. I do not believe government run insurance is the answer either, but lets have the insurance companies step up and make some suggestions. How do you cover 46 milliom 46 MILLION people who do not have insurance? how do folks with existing conditions get coverage? how do people on medication afford the prescriptions? These are the questions we should be getting answered, not who the hell is right
To all those who have children, granchildren and great grand children and you voted for this well versed con-artist we have as our commander and chief…SHAME ON YOU ALL!….He just spent the hell out of THEIR money!
It would be nice if he would bow to our constitution like he bowed to the king of saudi arabia…last time I checked didnt we fight a war so we the people and our leaders didnt have to bow to other kings from other nations? I thought treason was still against the law.
We are AMERICA INC. and he is destroying small business owners such as myself and 85% of my community here in Texas. Speaking of which…yall been to any gun shows here in Texas latley? Then you prolly seen that once the doors open, 30 minutes later the entire gun show is picked apart clean. He’s gunna have a hell of a time wittling away our gun rights here in the great state of Texas.
More Neocon smear and fear tactics to scare everyone about Healthcare reform!
Click Here: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25779.html
Sad Sad Sad…how low will the right wing and racist radicals go to discredit the best President we have had in decades. Why wouldn’t Americans want improvements to the health care system? There has been no “oversite” on the private sector insurance companies. They are spending millions to put out propaganda and coaching republican senators and hecklers to call any government sponsored plan “socialist” medicine to scare the rest of the public. The insurance companies have a 20% profit margin. Medicare/Medicaid operates with a 3% surplus. People should educate themselves on the other nations that have had government sponsored health care such as England, France, Denmark, Germany. How would you like to have a major illness and surgery in a hospital, have excellent medical care and there was absolutely no bill. It happens in England.
It seems that the Obama-fear-mongers continue to chant that any solution that covers more of the people that can’t afford healthcare (more and more now) is considered socialism. Likewise, there are the shouts of government expenditure. Being from the other camp, I saw a democratic president leave a budget surplus, a minimal military involvement in the world, and I was gainfully employed and seeing increases in business, pay, etc. Now, this democratic president earned shattered foreign relations, enormous federal debt (btw, the federal and state governments have NEVER shrunk, no matter who is in charge). And while the fear mongers are touting Obama’s lies, it is clear that the former administration outright lied about a number of things that led to wars that spent SO MUCH of our wealth, and DESTROYED our reputation with other countries – very careless indeed.
Most importantly, though, is that what we have now is NOT working. Insurance companies are getting the wealthiest, more people are losing coverage, unemployed like myself are facing issues where unemployment doesn’t come close to covering the COBRA payments that I’m fortunate enought to have, but that are with insurance companies that my former employer chose (not me, so much for choosing my own doctor). Greed on the part of financial institutions and insurance companies has really screwed us, and regardless of who you blame, less government oversight has NOT made that better, but made it worse. I’m all for less government involvement, but it needs to be in the right places. Besides, even Lincoln the Republican, knew when it mades sense to employ people in infrastructure jobs that would helped everyone.
Also, I find it interesting that the right rarely post links to groups like Politifact or Factcheck, that look at the origins of these kinds of postings.
Maybe every hot button issue should be put to public vote. Then everyone might try to understand it better and know where they stand versus the majority of voters (those who care). If you’re outnumbered, you know you’ll have to do some convincing and encouraging of those to speak their mind. That would be a democracy.
Lastly, are we really fighting wars so that we don’t have to respect other leaders?
This video is a total whack-job fraud, but what more can you expect from Republicans and the Party of NO?
NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF WHINY, INCOMPETENT, SORE-LOSER, CHICKEN LITTLES…
You are fooled if you don’t think that this video speaks the truth. Even the bill states it!! Maybe you should READ before commenting!!
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Schumer said that “one way or another” the Democrats would push Socio-fascist ObamaCare through by the “end of the year,” despite exponentially increasing bi-partisan opposition from the American people. On CBS’ Face the Nation last Sunday, Schumer said:
“Make no mistake about it, the president is for this strongly. There will be a public option in the final bill.”
Bear in mind, a public “option” is no option at all. On page 16-Sec. 102 of H.R. 3200 (the House version of ObamaCare), which begins “Protecting the Choice to Keep Private Coverage,” it is stated emphatically (lines 3-26) that it “OUTLAWS PRIVATE INSURANCE by forbidding enrollment after HR 3022 is passed into law.”
I’m getting really sick of the “The government can’t run medicaid or cash for clunkers” or anything else and that’s why they can’t run a public option. I mean why not extend that to They can’t run the military, or the FDA or Interstates. I mean why not just about anything. And the whole socialism thing. Denmark is a socialist country and they were voted the happiest country in the world last year. Yeah I’ll bet that really sucks. Not that that’s an absolute argument for it. I just think the Neil McCarthyism needs to go.
A study done at Stanford University (not known to be a political hotbed for conservative thought)addresses the truth about the differences between US healthcare and the Socialized versions in Canada and Britain. The whole article is here:
http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/49525427.html
These are the areas covered by the study–just the headlines mind you, so please read the entire article. By the way, did you know that hip replacements and cancer radiation therapy is considered ‘elective’? And patients can wait up to a year to get treated?
1. Americans have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians.
2. Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers.
3. Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed countries.
4. Americans have better access to preventive cancer screening than Canadians.
5. Lower-income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians.
6. Americans spend less time waiting for care than patients in Canada and the United Kingdom.
(By the way, did you know that hip replacements and cancer radiation therapy is considered ‘elective’? And Canadians & the Brits can wait up to a year to get treated?)
7. People in countries with more government control of health care are highly dissatisfied and believe reform is needed.
8. Americans are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians.
9. Americans have better access to important new technologies such as medical imaging than do patients in Canada or Britain
10. Americans are responsible for the vast majority of all health care innovations.
These are facts from a reputable institution…of course it’s not funded by Obama or any other organization that gets its money from George Soros or moveon.org, so I’m sure it’s suspect! As a cancer patient, I’ve been to MD Anderson and while there met many a Canadian and European cancer patient who had the money to travel where they could get decent care when they needed it…not when their government deemed it possible.
How naive are those who think this legislation will lead to better healthcare! Problem is, once this is in play, where will WE go to get the treatments we need and want?
This man right here is the ANTI-CHRIST~!
PEOPLE! Chill; and please read this comment… I am an Obama supporter; I voted for the man. Does that mean I agree with everything he’s doing? No, it doesn’t. However, I do hold a degree in broadcasting and I can tell you a couple of things about this video post: 1. the clips are from varying sources at various times, edited and then sequenced in a string that probably puts them out of order and out of context, and that could be misleading. 2. But even for ME, some of it still gives me pause. It’s possible that some of the quotes may have been something that was said once, but has been since been abandoned. In other words, yes, maybe someone said something yesterday but later changed their minds about it, or (as opponents would say), he was “for it before he was against it”, or that they are just lying now and they have a secret agenda. All of that is a shame, since it doesn’t allow anyone to reconsider a position and change their mind on a subject. But I am very curious about thsi issue, and will be doing some research on my own, and will let you folks know what I’ve found if you are so interested.
Anyone who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ knows neither Obama nor Christ. That’s just goofball stuff. As for this video, it may be manipulatively edited -probably- but I would like to think it fairly portrays his position. I want a single payer plan. Get the profiteering middlemen -insurance companies- out of the way. Let do what is for the common good, not what is good for the special interests.
All of the opponents of universal healthcare should remember why we joined our states together to become the United States – to become stronger in numbers! If we join together in healthcare we will become a stronger and healthier country. Are the opponents of Obama so selfish that they would rather become broke and have nothing to leave to their children, because they got cancer or something of the sort, than pay more in taxes? That’s ridiculous! Private insurance benefits only the greedy doctors and CEO’s. Conservatives that use propaganda, like this site, are only hurting the United States!
The only thing that should be banned is the press attacking a candidates family as in a handicapped child.
For all you smart people that want a gov’t runed healt care system, I hope you get it. One Friday go down to your gov’t hospital, into the emergency room, and tell them you have a broken arm or leg, and wait and see how long until they attend to you, try this espically if you live in a larger city. Yea hospital bills are expensive, but doctors and hospitals have a right to make money. One problem is there is no set price on any type of surgery. And you really think Americans will want to be doctors in the future, if they are getting to same pay as a teacher? No dis-respect to teachers, just giving an example of gov’t pay. There was a comment that most Americans are dumb. Yes they are, and why do you think they (gov’t) keeps the boarder wide open, and encourages another minority to buy houses they can’t afford, to have a home and have more kids? These people will rely on the gov’t from birth to death.
WHAT A GENIUS PLAN, NOW I HAVE TO ATTACK VITAMINS AND COMPLETE CONTROL OF THEM, SO YOU HAVE TO GO SEE OUR DOCTOR JUST TO GET VITAMINS.
What would be such a bad thing about getting the EMPLOYER-based purchase of health care out of the way? It’s a historical fluke that is strangling small business.
Wow…..this clearly shows his intentions….SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!! Nooooooo!!!!!
Saying the the President is evil makes no sense.
I agree with what Doug wrote:
David August 3rd, 2009 – 9:13 am
1. I think this “socialist” accusation is bogus. No substantial meat (truth) to it. It’s just distracting rhetoric that dumbs down the discourse. Over the past year it’s become an umbrella term for ANY government regulation, reform or government initiative. Blurring definitions is not an argument.
2. The idea that a government option means more red tape + bureaucracy… well private insurers in the US are absolutely horrible when it comes to customer care and bureaucracy. You’ve got to admit that. In which case address it, don’t pretend it’s all so rosy or forgive the present system’s enormous flaws just to chant sound-bites.
Let’s see some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Instead of “no, no no”!
This man is evil! We need to stop him ASAP! We do not want socialism in the US!