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What a scumbag. Did he call for any releif efforts or is this the only quote you have?
hmmmm, sounds like mr. robertson is very, very superstitious.
instead of pointing the finger at the Haitians, mr. robertson should face the truth and ask the question:
why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?
I agree. We must pray for Haiti. Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. The Bible says to “Turn from your wicked ways so I can heal your land”
What a jackass.
This guy still talks with God??? He’s a nut case.
Where was this NATIONAL pact that was made?
Pat needs to give actual examples.
This type of talk means nothing without backing it up
Hey pat — just die already, would ya? Haiti got hit by an earthquake. have some compassion, ya dick.
Honestly whats wrong with him?
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What an idiot. I can’t believe people still listen to this guy.
hmmmm, sounds like mr. robertson is very, very superstitious.
instead of pointing the finger at the Haitians, mr. robertson should face the truth and ask the question:
why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?
for example one reason might be:
he is hallucinating and his tooth fairy doesn’t exist…
Well an even longer time ago, another Pact so to speak was made and the entire planet was cursed. Come on, let’s focus on charity instead of pouring fuel on the fire.
Why Pat? It’s crap like this that makes the right look stupid.
Pat Robertson, get off the bus and go away. There are real Christians who want and can help. How in God’s name could you have forgotten the grace of God and what the Kingdom of God is all about. This is not a time for words. I would suggest you get out of you multimillion dollar house and office and go down and get dirty helping for a week. But I don’t think you are either smart enough or courageous enough. BNR
WTF, Pat? “True story.” True story? I just have to shake my head at this one…
On a side note, countdown to overpaid Hollywood-type asking people with much less money than them to donate in 3…2….1…
This wacko is one of the most irresponsible “TV Religion” hawkers who ever lived. Shut up Pat. Nobody is listening!
I’ve been to Haiti several times in recent years. Pat hit the nail on the head. The Haitians that have turned to Christ will tell you so. Those of you who are not “born again” from above as Jesus said, can not understand this. The devil is real and he hates God’s most precious creation…humanity! And his assault is vicious and relentless. I pray that revival will be birthed from this is the hearts of the Haitians and believers around the world. Salvation first…life is temporal, all die, this too shall pass. But the Word of God remains forever.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAGGERATION. I HAVE KNOWN HAITIANS WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SATANISM. THEY LIVE IN A DANGEROUS PLACE, ON A FAULT LINE, IN FLOOD AND HURRICANE PRONE AREAS. WE HAVE THE SAME THING IN THE USA.
Saying Haiti was hit with an earthquake because they are cursed is a bit much there Pat. Nothing could be more untruthful and annoying than to speculate that weather or earthly phenomenon is controlled by God. When a tornado kills dozens in a Southern Baptist town in the south, I don’t say God’s wrath was behind this. When Jesus demanded the storm calm, did He go against God since God supposedly is behind weather? I think not and will pray for the Christians of Haiti as well as those who have not accepted Christ.
They do however practice VOODOO!!!
Not a cool think since that involved human sacrificing!
Haitian Vodou or Vaudou (French pronunciation: [vodu], Anglicised as Voodoo) is a syncretic[1] religion originating from the Caribbean country of Haiti,
Google it!
Pat Robertson swore a pact to the crazy.
Truth is always stranger than fiction. And so Mr. Robertson will be attacked by the Godless left for pointing out the fact.
Are fricken kidding me? Deal with the Devil to be rid of the French? All you need to do is say, “BOO” and French go running. Has Pat heard the term Plate Tectonics? I liken it to standing in the street. If you stand there long enough, your going to get hit.
It’s ignorant and delusional statements like this that make Pat Robertson a laughing stock for much of the US. It’s no secret this guy is a for-profit holy roller, and a fing ahole. What a jerk. Moron cites Haitians made a pact with the devil. The only other person who gets laughed at more is Sarah the idiot Palin.
One word describes you Pat: Cuckoo!
This guy is nuts!
C’mon lefties, disprove that!
What a moron!
Silly old fool, moron
I went to Haitit on a short term mission trip in the mid-1980’s. When you observe at the people, talk to them, view the decimation (by the locals) of the countryside, etc., I have no doubt, that much of the nation’s woes are tied to the pacts entered into by Haiti’s past leaders.
Typical Republican response. And they wonder why many Americans fear their part in the power structure. These prudish Republican bible thumpers are relics of Jim Crow.
It is horrifying that in this era of men on the moon,laserbeams,flying aircraft and advanced medicines that there are still people that are so stupid and so superstitious that they would actually believe the words that these religious zealots utter.
We haven’t come very far at all,in fact,if it were still allowed,these religious creeps would still burn alive those that disagree with them and their doctrines.
So the babies born last week made a pact with the devil hundreds of years ago?
Ladies and gentlemen, Christian love and compassion as interpreted by Pat Robertson.
Putz.
Pat,
In Jesus Name, please be quiet.
This is the kind of crap that gives Evangelical Christians a bad name. Stop with the “God is punishing you” crap and just get in and help!
It’s as good an explanation as any, Pat. Something is definitely frakked-up on the LEFT side of the island…left? hmmm..
Frad
Pat Robertson: one of Satan’s ‘useful idiots’
Pat Robertson needs to get off the air waves. He makes Christianity look foolish too often.
Well if Satan is real there is a good chance it’s Pat Robertson so I guess he would know if they made a deal with the devil.
“True story”, what an asshole.
This is just disgusting. So much for compassionate christianity.
pat robertson is an evil bigot and deserves to be tortured and then be dismembered by a wild pack of dogs.
you sir, do not represent the Christian religion or the teachings of Jesus.
What an embarrassment.
SHUT UP YOU IDIOT!
Pat Robertson is such a fool. It takes a so called religious punk to come up with something as stupid as that. Pat Robertson needs either crawl back under the rock he came from or just do the world a favor and die a go straight to HELL where he belongs.
what an idiot. first of all, the Haitians got their independence during Napoleon I’s reign, some 60 years before Napoleon III. second of all, how does Mr. Robertson know what the devil said or did not say? third of all, where in the New Testament do we see God dealing with nations as nations?
do the world a favor, Pat, and retire.
He may be right.
I’m a Christian, but I just wish Pat would shut his trap. Every time a natural disaster rolls around he comes out of the woodwork and blames it on divine retribution. I’m unfamiliar with the event that he referred to, but I find it hard to imagine that the entire nation, each individual citizen, came together under French oppression and swore allegiance to the devil. Maybe a room full of freedom fighters sure… but the whole country? Not likely. In which case this premise that the countries woes are payback from God is just ridiculous and makes Christians look mentally retarded and incapable of critical thinking.
Pat Roberston is a racist ignorant jackass. These comments are ridiculous and shameful.
First of all, how do you even contact the devil to make a pact? Does he have an email address or a website? Second of all, what kind of crummy pact is this if Haiti had to throw the French out? They make a pact to get rid of the French and then THEY are the ones throwing the French out? What did the devil bring to the table? Couldn’t they have done this without the devil?
OUR FOUNDER would be distressed to hear this comment. He cared deeply about those in dire need of life-saving assistance – http://www.FATBOY.cc
I am a very conservative Evangelical Christian and I sure wish Pat would shut up.
Sounds like a decent bargain to me. Better to reign in hell than serve the French.
what a dope
Pat Robertson what a whack job!
Sure he’s a nut, but he’s just running with old Haitian folk lore. Here’s the link
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Haiti and its people need to be surrounded and enfolded in Peaceful and Loving thoughts. I’m utterly disappointed in Pat Roberton’s choice of words in a time like this. Diminishes his credibility when a “man of God” chooses negative words instead of support and love in this horrible tragedy. What people need now is to cover their basic needs of shelter, food, and water. Not pontification from an office with air condition. Truly REVOLTING words.
ian – i guess you didn’t notice he’s organizing a relief effort. And to say what he is saying isn’t placing blame on the people that are there now. It’s just telling the story of what happened. Scheez.
The Devil has infiltrated NOTRE DAME too – http://www.FreeTheND88.org
Pat, please just shut up and go away!! You make the rest of us Christians look bad. We don’t share your views and you do not speak for us.
Pat Robertson should shut his mouth he has no right to talk in this situation considering the fact that he’s a war criminal based on his actions in Liberia. there’s no curse in this situation what it boils down to is corrupt governments have beaten and kept down the people and that’s why Haiti is suffering right now.
See … see! You GO Patty! Look what happened to Michael Jackson when he didn’t repent either!
All ghost stories are bs. Religious people are just those who have been either 1) born into it, so they know no better, or 2) cowards who need a place to hide from life.
Pat Robertson is a lunatic. He’s just one of many reasons why I swore of religion some years back. Robertson belongs in the middle ages where everything bad that happened was blamed on curses and Satan. If it’s bad it comes from Satan if it’s good it comes from God. That’s toally medival thinking. Did it ever occur to Robertson that the reason why Haiti is so bad off and the Dominican Republic is prosperous is because of the types of governments they have? And I guess the quake fault line was just put there by God billions of years ago by God because of this curse. With Robertson and his ilk, reason and logic are done away with.
One word Voodoo!
Case closed.
Haiti is cursed. The Black people who were brought out of Africa that became Christian and who accepted the rule of god’s people have become the wealthiest blacks in the world. Those who embraced Satanism, Witchcraft and Voodoo have rejected the teachings of the White race and our god, have been cursed in accordance with the Word of God (the New Testament of the Bible).
God is cursing America as we continue to embrace or celebrate feminism, abortion, homosexual lifestyles, mis-cegenation, and other un-godly things which have always destroyed nations.
Just listen to the hypocrisy on here.
What a cold-hearted man.
all religious people are idiots, robertson is just crazier than most
I am a Christian and am frankly embarrassed almost every time this guy opens his mouth. He said the same thing about the tsunami in SE Asia in ‘04. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Jesus would never have uttered such stupidity. He would have been too busy trying to dig people out of the rubble and administer first aid. “Do unto others….” You know the rest.
The Pope smokes dope!
It sounds like Robertson is poking the same voodoo dolls as the Haitians. What’s the difference between a Muslim extremism and Pat Robertson? The extremists at least don’t ask god to destroy the things they hate.
As a Christian, I’m ashamed at the so called “Reverend” Pat Robertson. He does not speak for even the majority of Christians or religious people. He only speaks for nut jobs like himself.
i as a christian must say pat robertson is a a$$ hole.
What a vile remark by an ignorant man. Haiti’s poverty is due to its left wing policies, refusal to produce scientists and engineers, and the indolence of the people… the “devil” is irrelevant to Haiti’s poverty.
Pat Robertson is part of the bad craziness currently infesting the religious right. What pat really means is that “God” hates the Black Man
Now I know why we got stuck with Obama as President. We made a pact with the devil.
“bodhi January 13th, 2010 – 2:38 pm
hmmmm, sounds like mr. robertson is very, very superstitious.
instead of pointing the finger at the Haitians, mr. robertson should face the truth and ask the question:
why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?
for example one reason might be:
he is hallucinating and his tooth fairy doesn’t exist…”
and “bodhi” you should consult your God (Obama?) as well.
Didn’t anyone notice PR going over the deep end? It
happened when he decided (so-called) Global Warming was real.
The REAL DEVIL is the GOP SENATE CANDIDATE, Scott Brown! I will do a http://www.LIVESHOT.cc on CNN today.
Hahaha. This guy is as ignorant as he is stupid. If being a moron was a crime he would be in jail. He makes all christians and conservatives look like lunatics. I really think someone should force him into a retirement home or just retirement.
God’s wrath is nothing to mess with.
Unfortunatley, there are many innocent people.
Truly sad.
While Pat Roibertson is a foolish man, I am amazed by all the utter hatred on display here. people are so damn vicious, and hate filled.
Sounds like the old faker has finally gone senile.
So… some folks back during the Napoleonic period supposedly made a pact with a devil, and Robertson’s loving and forgiving god kills thousands of people two centuries later who didn’t do it? Nice sense of justice and timing his god has. This freak makes Christianity about as appealing as Abdulmutallab does Islam.
It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
Robertson is clearly insane. Why is he allowed to spew his nonsense on television? He belongs in an asylum for the criminally insane.
It’s a pity that there isn’t a hell for Mr. Robertson to go to.
pat robertson (doesn’t’ deserve the dignity of having his name capitalized) has never heard of Jesus…
DeFace January 13th, 2010 – 2:43 pm
Typical Republican response.
Mr. DeFace… you and Pat Robertson are on the same side of stupidity. Don’t be so quick to judge him. You are just as insane as he is when making those unfounded comments.
*sigh* Boy, and they [people like PRobertson and DeFace) walk among us.
Pat Roberton has a love affair with himself and his self importance. All the squirrels are not just in the woods.
If every good and perfect thing comes from our Creator (GOD), then where does all the disaster, death, and suffering come from?
Think about it…
wanda, you have major issues and I assume a unhappy liberal soul… just because you are so worthless and have no faith in yourself or anything else does not mean someone who is superstitious and is talking about the bible does not mean that he is stupid… the only stupid person is you and your communist friends. I am Russian, and We have our own beliefs so I understand that what he is saying is not what the media is explaining in full…. so libatard shut your mouth and go back under your rock, you stupid hoodrat… you are a sad, sad person to hate on someone who actually has faith and probably tries to help your fat welfare ass..
How sad. Pat was taken in by the god, mammon, long ago. Christ told his disciples when they asked him about when he was coming back: ‘If you want to find me look in the most wretched, I’ll be there.” We’ll then, he must be in Haiti right now.
Let’s cut the crap and go help those people and show the world that America is still America and can put aside it’s internal snarky strife and join together to do something right.
Obviously Pat’s right and the New Testament got it wrong in Matthew 5:45
King James Bible
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
This verse only applies to sunshine and rain but God uses earthquakes to punish people.
Problem is Mr. Robinson that most people think they are born experts on religion when most have not studied scripture for any real length of time and the rest have to try and sift through a matrix of bad theology, and error to find the truth. Fact is, God doesn’t want everybody and everybody doesn’t want God. Jesus is coming soon and he’s not ‘playing church’. May the LORD God have mercy on us all!
Don’t lump Christians in with Pat Robertson. Robertson is evil.
What a wanker.
Sounds like Fred Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church.
This earthquake was the “Hatian’s fault.” Somehow. Disgusting.
Wow… That is one of the stupidest, most disprespectful ways I’ve heard anyone talk about this whole situation.
This horrible natural disaster has occured and yet some guy has the audacity to find a way to blame the population of Haiti for this, as if they brought it upon themselves? How ridiculous and utterly ignorant; so what of the people of Thailand in 2004? Did they make a pact with the Devil too? or were all the inhabitants just pure-bred sinners?
The people of New Orleans perhaps? They’re all satan worshipers for sure…
Why must the peaceful, moral-inducing ideas behind all religions be attributed to such violence and horror when people need a reason to justify their own feelings. Just cause the guy doesn’t want to give up his money to the disaster fund, or feel pity for them, he finds a way to make it “All Their Own Fault”
Sickening.
I’M NOT SAYING ROBERTSON IS RIGHT, so you don’t have to attack this. I also agree that we need to be charitable.
Why is Haiti such a sh–hole and the Dominican Republic relatively comfortable? What are the culteral, political, or other differences that have created such a disparity? I’m curious as to people’s thoughts on this.
Pat, is that in the Haitian constitution or something? Seriously, a pact with the devil? The whole country? What scares me is not that you thought this, or that you said it, what scares me is that there are people out there who believe it. Just taking Pat’s word for it..the evangelical infallible leader.
You people live such a sheltered small minded life if you think there is not a spiritual world. Maybe this is not the best time for Pat to talk about this but I bet him and his organization does more for Haiti then all you that commented combined. Actual help money, food etc.
It’s very fashionable to dismiss such words. I don’t dismiss them so easily, however.
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OH SHUT UP, A**WHOLE!
YOU give us real Christians a bad NAME!!
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Pat Robertson is in the early stages of Alzheimers, and should be gotten off the air immediately.
You have got to be kidding me…Pat Robertson needs a refresher on his History of Haiti. The slaves were able to succeed in ousting the French because the French were dumb enough to have some ridiculously low number of French soldiers to keep over 500,000 slaves from turning on them (I want to say it was some 500:1 ratio of slaves to soldiers). That is how the slaves pushed the French out, freeing themselves and establishing sovereignty for Haiti; not some pact with the devil. Poor leadership and corruption are to blame for the disasters that Haiti has encountered since. In fact, Santoria was not really widely practiced until the 1800’s long after Haiti was a free nation. Oh yeah Mr. Pat Robertson, it is also little known that most who practice Santoria in Haiti are also practicing Christians (yes as in Catholics and Baptists). Those who wish to help impoverished countries should really learn of the History of their dilemmas before making a statement that tarnishes the image of the country and its people both locally and abroad. These are my eight cents on the matter.
The title made me wretch at P.Robertson even more than usual. but then WATCH the clip.
Haiti had past actions, pact with devil (ummm, if you say so??)
they have been cursed since (storms, hurricanes, etc)
they need to turn around as a nation and need our help now.
still nutty as can be. but the headline is terribly misleading.
Wait a minute – Pat Robertson is a valued leader in the Conservative Movement – listen to Pat – because if it’s not the Devils fault – then seeing how Haitti is 80% Christian then it must be that Jesus is mad at them.
Pat Robertson is a flaming moron…. a pact with the devil? I wanna see video of the ‘Haitians’ and that deal with the Devil… I’ll bet he pulled that right outa his ass, what a schmuck.
Haiti: Victims of Clinton’s Black Magic
He will go straight to hell when he finally dies. GOD is love not hate. He is one of the most hateful people on this planet. He uses religion to get the stupid to follow him. Disasters happen all over the world and in different places. It doesn’t mean Haiti is being punished. Maybe GOD is testing our compassion. He has failed.
I am reporting LIVE from Haiti right now. See my production crew here – http://www.crewclub.net
God’s wrath is nothing to mess with!
Sad for those innocent folks.
wonder why they didnt interview rev. wright ?
I find it interesting that whenever things go good for people God is thanked but when something bad happens He is questioned thoroughly.
Get over it, Pat! Go and do what Jesus would do – help these poor suffering humans!
This is the kind of ridiculous raving that is a disgrace to Christianity. This kind of bigotry is exactly the opposite reaction that Christianity teaches us to have. Pat Robertson does not represent Christianity and he certainly doesn’t represent the compassion of Christ. It’s time to prune the dead wood off the tree and go out and actually help people. Pray for the Haitians and help financially or otherwise if you can.
He is free to believe what he wants
Well, it is true they are cursed. I said it myself right after i heard about it.
It was Bush’s fault. Might as well have it out there, I know it’s coming.
Is this moron for real? Pat Robertson has got to be one of the most ignorant Americans on the planet. What a hateful little man. The saddest part is he has tons of other ignorant Americans filling the coffers of his church.
Why is he even being given a forum from which to spew this vile nonsense?
I hope my mother-in-law doesn’t believe him. What an Einstein.
Why do we still have people like this guy? Good grief. Pat, where’s your proof of this “pact”? How come nobody else has ever documented this agreement? Oh wait, let me guess: you’re mentally ill and live in a fantasy world full of nonsense you make up! Seriously, somebody get this man some help.
Why didn’t God punish the Haitians who made the pact?
Destroy All Religion
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What in the world is this MAGGOT of a human being talking about , And shame on that woman for not slapping the insanity out of him.
Haiti problems lies at the feet of the government , Where there is Corruption and lack of leadership and have nothing to do with RELIGION.
And to say they are CURSE because the Dominican Republic is doing great and they are not… so they are curse. So then we can say the same for Mexico, Afterall we are in the same proximity of them.
Watch countries in decay and poverty their Goverment are either corrupt or they are dictators.
Want to bet if Canada and the United States was to invade and run Mexico or Haiti their quality of life would change and it would throw this insensitive and ridiculous theory of heaven and hell.. right out the window.
What do you expect from a religious leader? The Bible is rife with retribution from God for immoral activities. Pat will interpret these events based on his beliefs. You can bet if an earthquake happens in California similar things will be said. Those less religious will not see any link between the two because do not have that belief system. To call either nuts is wrong. Based on my beliefs I will say “Only God knows for sure.”
Just so you all know — THIS IS THE FUTURE OF THE ‘TEA PARTY MOVEMENT’.
It’s Bush’s fault
I’m a Christian, and a conservative, and have been for a long time.
Pat is a jerk, and has been for a long time.
I agree he’s a nut, but he’s just running with old Haitian folk lore
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
funny… it’s ok to say that sodam and gammorah were destroyed by god but nothing else. what if this was god’s will, like when good things happen?
From Kev above :
“Are fricken kidding me? Deal with the Devil to be rid of the French? All you need to do is say, “BOO” and French go running.”
THANK YOU Kev- You had me rolling and in tears in the middle of this horrendous situation-
B.
In 1791 a slave revolt began in Haiti. Supposedly this began with a voodoo ritual held at night and this is where the legend of invoking dark spirits come from. If they did or didn’t isn’t really known, but the war that followed was extremely bloody and genocidal. It more likely that the system that arose during and after the revolt favored corrupt and brutal regimes that pillaged the country for the next 200 years.
Just do a little research into the history of Haiti and you can find most of this stuff out.
Prior to the Earthquake, Haiti looked completely destroyed, after the Earthquake, Haiti looks completely destroyed? Pure example of third world bad governemnt, if you can even call it a government.
I would make a pact with the devil if I had to be ruled by Pat Robertson. But the devil probably wouldn’t make the deal on that one.
You know something, all you young “generation xers” if you folks would do some honest research instead of being so stuck on MTV, BET, the Spike channel and the like, you understand that what Mr. Robertson is saying which is that, for many years, Haiti was under the rule of France. Well, the Haitians reached a point where they became tired of being under french rule and tried to rid themselves of the french to the extent that thy were willing to anything to rid themselves of the french. Therefore, they swore a pact with the devil because they were desparate and were willing to try anything. The voodoo religion is also very strong in Haiti. (But of course, back in school, ya’ll were probably too busy to pay any attention in History class right??? Man let’s face it, there were video games, the latest pretty girl, what’s on tv tonite, who dissed who today and all kinds of crap that was pretty important to you prodigys right???
The problem I have with Pat R is that he gives Christianity a bad name! I’m Christian, and can’t understand why Pat feels the need to speak for God. God is perfectly capable of managing things without Pat’s help!
Only TWO loonies out of 44 comments crawled into the loony bin with Pat….and one of them is named GLOBALWARMER. Oh, well, what did you expect?
Don’t blame him. He can’t help it that he’s crazy.
Christopher Hitchens where art thou?
For those of you who want encyclopedia verification on the story of how Haiti’s revolution came about check out this wikipedia article on Haitian Voodoo… Pat’s not always right but this one is true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou#Haitian_Revolution
I don’t know if I’d be so blunt as Pat is, but it would do us all well to serve Jesus instead of messing with a religion that encourages demonic possession like Voodoo.
His comment is like telling a girl she’s fat. Even if you believe it’s true, nothing possibly good can come from saying it.
And soon the devil shall come to their rescue, by showering them with billions of American tax dollars.
Pat Robertson is a snake oil salesman. I don’t really think much about Jesus Christ when I listen to men like Pat Robertson.
He needs to shut up. He may be right but he should shut up.
As for those that like to use bad things to prove to themselves that all things created
themselves and a loving God would not allow bad things to happen.
God has given Satin a time a time that will end and that gives people a choice.
The world started prefect with man having free will and man chose to do what God said
not to do. We are all paying the price for what Eve did. Blame Satin/Evil for the bad.
STOP MAKING THE RIGHT LOOK LIKE RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS PAT. WE DONT CLAIM YOU.
Shame on Robertson- again- for propagating such horrible things. I’m no judge, but after hearing Robertson’s comments, my guess would be that the Haitian people are more likely to be justified before God than Robertson and his followers.
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
The poster who referred to Robertson as superstitious is probably right. Yes, Haiti was one of the very first countries in the hemisphere to go independent – but it had nothing to do with the devil. And, while the DR is far better off than Haiti, I’d hardly call it prosperous. It’s per capita income is on par with Guatemala. As for Haiti being “cursed”, well that’s a combination of centuries of mismanagement, government corruption, poverty and just plain bad luck. Pat knows just enough to be dangerous and should probably retire.
As for the people of Haiti, may God bless them and give them strength.
Yes We Can Build a http://www.NewNation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html – YES WE CAN!!
vita, why dont you get in and help…? all you people are brainwashed by communists… what have christians done that is bad…NOTHING
Church is devoted to helping others…not goverment…. so I look at pats backround and he has devoted himself to helping others.. unlike your brother obama who is a communist and wants to destroy christianity and replace it wth goverment ( what stalin did…)so get a clue… and for you liberals to judge him…hahaha you are baby killing scum.. let me remind you how obama voted to not keep surviving babies of abortion on life support… LIBERALS are SCUM
The Haitians are known for their voodoo worship. Voodod worship equates itself with the worship of Satan. Will anyone argue with this? Is there a God? Umm.. I believe there is. I think it takes a lot more faith to believe that humans somehow created themselves from a pile of muck than it does to believe God created us. So why are so many against God? I was for 39 years because I thought I would be giving up something by embracing my creator and accepting His love and grace. Wow was I ever wrong for 39 years. God is real! I don’t know if Pat Robertson’s statement is true or not. If it is I don’t know if God’s judgement has anything to do with this disaster either. I do know that turning to God at times like this will be a source of comfort for these people in Haiti.
If what Pat says is true, then we are to be damned too by God. After all, the Reverend Wright asked God to damn America. Perhaps He listened to Wright and others like him by blinding us into voting for the media’s chosen one, Obama.
Can Pat Robertson be any colder, or crazier than he is right now? I’ve never in my life
heard such hate as this man can spew and still have a forum to spit off of!
Pat Robertson owes the Haitian people an immediate apology! Then he needs to get off the airwaves and stop making Christians look so weird and uninformed! I can’t believe he said what he said! Shame on him!!
I see the Atheists are commenting. One respondant commented “why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?” This is exactly what the Devil would persuade us all to think about, a bad GOD or none at all. Get right with Jesus people, Devil is real, Earth is a cursed planet and no Atheists exist on the death bed, I know cause I treat hundreds a year!
God Bless and pray for teh suffering
Lots of ignorance about God here.
I mean, in the comments section.
Whoever said God was so loving that he wouldn’t pour out his judgment on nations that have turned their back to Him? Where is THAT in the bible, arm chair theologians?
How exactly does an entire country make a pact with the devil? Do they all like vote on it?
what a complete EFFEN PINCH FACED DOUCHE BAG… the only one that’s cursed around here is that flipping JACKASS NUTJOB
Robertson, show some compassion you moron.
Pat Robertson is a fool.God is always talking to him. Bull!
Pat’s not too far off base. Haiti has made a pact with a devil, if not the devil, in it’s acceptance of brutal, looting dictators. Zimbabwe made a similar pact.
The citizens of these countries need to rise up and cast down these bullies who exert military power over their own people and ignore natural rights. If they would only do that, they would develop to the point that they could withstand disasters like this.
Come on now Pat…It was you who made a pact with me. And my payment is about due. Hope you are ready.
Pat said, “Haiti made a pact with the devil, and the ‘devil’ said, sure thing…. it’s a deal.”. So…. Tell me. How does Pat Robertson know the ‘devil’s’ answer to this question. Does Pat Robertson routinely talk to the devil to get updates? Maybe some of you right wing tea party goers can answer this, since most of you think and reason like Robertson does.
Of course Pat is nutty as a fruitcake and wrong. However, that doesn’t make the Haitians right, either. The leaders of the unfortunate country are also traditionally leaders of the voodoo cult and assumed to have supernaturtal spirit powers. Been there. Seen evidence of that. It simply is the animating force of the whole place. It is the Santería of Cuba on satanic steroids and not at all a wholesome thing.
Now the question is what can we do to help these people.
The evil man understandeth not judgment
Google the date August 14, 1791 and there is copious evidence that Pat Robertson is accurate concerning his statement about Haiti’s pact with satan. History is history so don’t shoot the messenger. The other side of this coin is that Mr. Robertson’s ministry has cared for the hurting Haitians. Christians go to Haiti, more than any other group in the world, to help the poor Haitian people. That is a fact. In the next few weeks and months the world will see Christians take the lead on caring for the Haitian people. Christians will give money, Christians will go to aid in the rescue, Christian will pray for the Haitians, Christians will be the hands of Jesus on the ground caring for the broken. They will do it quietly and without fanfare because they do not do it for themselves.
DeFace says: “Typical Republican response. And they wonder why many Americans fear their part in the power structure. These prudish Republican bible thumpers are relics of Jim Crow.”
WHAT?!? First of all, Jim Crow laws were instituted by DEMOCRATS. Please learn REAL history, instead of CNN and Huffington Post revisionist history. Second, by saying “typical Republican response”, you assume that half the voters in this country agree with Pat Robertson. I can assure you are wrong, just as I would be wrong if I said all Democrats are as RACIST as Harry Reid and Bill Clinton (”a light-skinned black without a Negro dialect”….”c’mon, Ted, a few years ago he would have been getting us coffee”).
Do you see how IGNORANT you are now, DeFace?
It clearly is not possible for there to be any other explanation to two parts of the SAME islane having such different levels of prosperity. Thus, apparently had the folks in Harlem or the Bronx not made a pact with the devil, they’d be as well off as the good Christians down on Wall St.
Then again, Pat would think the Jews on Wall St. also made a pact with the devil, but just got a better deal, cause that’s what they (we) do.
What a moron.
Too bad you fools don’t know your history. The French were once a superpower, and brutal and cruel.
At first you might want to throw Pat Robertson’s idea out the window, but the fact is
that he is correct in that Haiti did make a pact with the devil. They continue
on with their voodoo rituals and evil traditions. God has a history of laying the
smack down on a wicked people throughout history. It’s true, and if you don’t
believe it then read up on the anti-diluvian peoples, the Sodomites, the Egyptians,
the Babylonians, the Greeks, and Romans! People often disregard the truth of the matter
because it seems too fantastic… Return to the Lord and he shall heal the land.
It’s a sad thing, but unfortunately it’s true. Seriously. Look at Google earth. Dominican Rebublic is lush and green and Haiti is brown. There is literally a line down the island.
You can believe it or not, but even a basic google search will tell you that Haiti’s religion is 99% vodoo, which is in line with devil worship.
At one time Hispanola was the weathiest colony in the world. When the Vodoo worshipping priest took over as leader of Haiti, it rapidly went down hill and has remained the poorest state in the world pretty much since then.
I’m not saying they are necessarily cursed, but, the one the majority swears allegiance to is a god not GOD.
The Haitians made a deal with Barack Obama? Cool. Wonder how much of my money they’ll get?
Pat Robertson..in fact about all of the televised ministers..are too over the top for me. Comments such as this do more to harm God’s cause than help it. Over these long years, I have developed a distain for ‘organized’ religions..they appear to be as corrupt and self serving as any radical political cause..My faith is not that way..
I don’t know that anyone other than God knows the Haitian’s hearts, or anyone elses for that matter. Robertson surely does not speak for me and I doubt seriously, that he speaks for God. I pray for the Haitian peoples welfare and that they will find relief from their suffering.
Just so you all know, I am a grade-A piece of scum. I am only interested in money and power, and I will continue to spend my life getting publicity out of any and all suffering. the more, the better for me!
Pat Robertson – Wishing you Dead for Years and Proud.
Pat Robertson went to Yale Law School around the time Bush Jr and the Clintons attended. Yale is known for being home of the Skull and Bones Society. Perhaps Robertson was a secret member, too! He supports the North American Union, part of their plan to take over the world.
I think PAT ROBERTSON made a pact with the devil when he joined this club!
God damned America with Barack Obama. Thus sayeth the Reverand Wright.
Pat Robertson – Deals were made with the devil.
People with brains – They live on a fault line, in substandard structures.
And people send this nitwit money?
Pat, if you wern’t telling the truth, you wouldn’t have so many people nashing their teeth at you.
I tend to agree with him for that reason.
I’m no religion nut but it’s kinda weird how New Orleans and Haiti have 2 things in common now…..VooDoo & huge, natural disasters.
We dumped OUR U.S. Senator. YES WE DID http://www.DumpChrisDodd.com YES WE DID!!
I am a conservative but even I can’t stand this sanctimonious asshole- anyone who says that god speaks to them is a liar or insane…
I’ve actually been to Haiti several times doing mission work, and Pat Robertson should do the same before shooting his mouth off in such an irresponsible manner. If he took the time to actually visit various parts of Haiti, he would find a significant portion of the population who believes in God and prays to the same Jesus Christ as does Mr. Robertson. There is a part of the population who practice a cultist combination of Voodoo and Catholicism, however this is a minority. Even by the widest stretch of logic, one could not validly argue that Voodoo dominates the Haitian culture.
Mr. Robertson is a member of the kook minority fringe and anyone who thinks the vast majority of Christians share his viewpoints is just dead wrong.
Let’s pray for Mr. Robertson, shall we?
There’s a lot of slamming Pat from both sides.
“…you sir, do not represent the Christian religion or the teachings of Jesus”
“Haiti got hit by an earthquake. have some compassion, ya dick.”
Obviously, you dumb asses didn’t catch the “Disaster Relief Fund” number at the bottom of the screen.
What, exactly, is it YOU are doing to help in the Haitian’s time of need?
How sad; Pat Robertson appears his rocker and doesn’t even have his basic facts straight. “Napoleon III or whatever”? It’s sad – he has done a great deal of good, but lately when he pops up he only serves to make Christians in general, and evangelicals in particular, look ridiculous and even bigoted. Although he gets attention, he doesn’t speak for most of us at all on things like this.
This guy makes Palin look smart.
It is a perfect storm. Extreme poverty, no functioning government, the largest poor city in the western hemisphere with crumbling concrete buildings and a 7.0 right under ground zero.
If I were religous I might suspect God had an “issue” with them. Since I’m not, I chalk it up to plain dumb luck.
Now, how much is THIS going to cost us, Barry?
What an insipid old dunderhead. Why do they even let that man make public statements anymore? Foolishness.
I think it was Bob Dylan who said “It may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you’re gonna have to serve somebody.” Choose you this day whom you will serve!
As a republican, I can’t even begin to tell you what an embarrassment this guy is. Shut up Pat. After a statement like that it’s your own soul you oughta be praying for.
Jacka$$
The CLOSING of his MINISTRY would be a good enough apology for me .
I look forward to the day the earth is hit by a comet and wipes us all out. Let us all pray for that. We will not have to worry about healthcare, natural disasters, jobs, wars, etc.
I try and make excuses for this guy because he gets things right sometimes but he really makes it hard when he spouts this garbage. Haiti has been plagued by abusive leadership and no industry, and is dependent upon handouts for all of it’s money. When disaster strikes they have no where to turn.
Pat is correct. He was also correct when he said what he did about Katrina. I hope he doesn’t apologize for his comments this time. No apology is necessary. God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah. Is he not capable of destroying New Orleans, Haiti, San Fran, or NYC? I hope we turn from our sinful ways (abortion, homosexuality, true racism, pornography, almost anything the ACLU stands for, taking God’s name out of everything, etc.) before it is too late and He decides to do so. It is our fault, not God’s. And don’t blame Pat either. He’s the only one with guts enough to tell the truth.
Pat is absolutely right. The people who belittle him for speaking the truth are just spiritually blind, ignorant fools who don’t know the Lord. Look at what is happening in our country. The farther we get from God the less prosperous we become. It is a symptom of a larger disease. But even after the rapture, and the anti-Christ sets him self up and the earth is literally a living hell, the same people will be saying the same things denying the Only God that could save them. It is written.
But as Christians, just like Pat said we need to help, and pray as much as possible. Which is way more than the non believers ever do.
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
JOE, not good my brother.
Pat doesn’t understand divine punishment. When God is angry and punishes people he always delivers the innocent from punishment. That is consistant through-out the Bible.
Pat, sometimes you don’t have all of the answers – Don’t start guessing when you don’t know. You make the rest of us Christians look worse than Osama when you do.
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That country needs our prayers not scorn. So are you saying we got hit by katina because of our independence from Britian? Come on Pat.
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I am a student at your school – Regent Univ – and I know you are wrong about this.
Pat Robertson, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. I know Jesus, and I know his heart breaks for these victims, and I know his will for Christians is to GO TO THEM AND HELP THEM, not JUDGE them as they are dying.
Love Wins.
I pray for these poor people, and I will do all I can to help them. That’s what Christians do. That’s what AMERICA always does.
The Reverend Wright shouted to God, “God damn America!” And He sent Obama to do his will.
Hey deface, Just to set the record straight, when idiots on the right err, most people on the right condemn their behavior. When idiots on the left err, people on the left vote for them. But don’t take my word for it, check it out. Why not start here? Sure you will find a few who excuse Robertson’s words, but they are nut cases. Check out how many democrats condemned Harry Reid’s latest racist remarks. Not many!
We disowned Pat Robertson year’s ago. He’s been nuts for over 10 years.
Im a pretty conservative type but “WHAAAAT?” and thats EXACTLY what i said when i saw the headline. This is a completely ridiculous statement and Pat needs to get back on his Zyprexa or Razadyne. Whatever he takes he needs to start taking it again.
Did anyone slamming Robertson actually watch the video? In case no one noticed, he’s in the midst of raising money to help out those suffering over there. He’s not judging, he’s pointing out some historical context and comparing the conditions in Haiti with other nearby countries. And again, he’s raising relief money. What are you folks doing?
Alex- are you saying New Orleans and Haiti are the only places that huge natural disasters have happened? These things have happened since the beginning and will happen til the end all over the world.
Yes, they made a pact with the devil, and his name is George Soros.
Can we please disown him? Possibly 100,000 dead and this fool wants to talk about the devil and Napoleon. Tell me Pat in this “pact” how the hell would you know what the devil said if such a conversation took place? Unless you… OMG!!!
An excerpt from this site http://theanarchistlibrary.org/node/885 detailing the Haitian revolution (Fourth Paragraph):
The slaves, meanwhile, had already formed their own analysis (Of The French Revolution), that “the white slaves in France had risen, and killed their masters, and were now enjoying the fruits of the earth.” [24] Sensing freedom, runaway coachman and hougan Boukman Dutty chose to follow their example, using his underground communication network between Maroon bands and plantation slaves to gather delegates in the Bois-Caiman on 17th August. A young mulatto priestess Cecile Fatiman led this rite by singing songs of Africa invoking Ogoun, god of fire, iron and war, and sacrificing a black pig. After all present had drunk its blood to bind themselves together in revolt, Boukman addressed them[25]
The god of the white people demands of them crimes; our god asks for good deeds. But this god who is so good demands vengeance! He will direct our hands; he will aid us. Cast away the image of the god of the whites, who thirsts for our tears, and listen to the voice of liberty that speaks in all of our hearts.
Word went back to the plantations and a week later, on 25th August, came the Night of Fire.
Across the whole North Plain, 50,000 rose and, with them, an inferno. 200 sugar plantations burned and with them six times as many coffee plantations, a quarter of all those on the island. The flames lit the night’s sky and could be seen as far away as the Bahamas. For three weeks afterwards, smoke and burning cane straw obscured the tropical sun and choked the sea with ash. On each plantation, slaves killed their own masters, those best treated — such as those of Gallifet — paradoxically showing them least mercy.
Pat . . . you’re an idiot.
More blacks have gotten to heaven under slavery than ever got to heaven under freedom.
Blacks flourish spiritually under oppression more than any race I know. They are
the most degraded race I know when wealthy.
brother pat you’re right on! never mind the crude comments, it just shows their ignorance.
Here’s a quote from Wikipedia:
“Historians traditionally identify the catalyst to revolution as a particular Vodou ceremony in August 1791 performed at Bois Caïman by Dutty Boukman, a priest.”
I believe that this is what he’s talking about. Who is to say that he’s not right?
Pat Robertson is no better than the Obama’s Reverend Wright who begged God to damn America. And what is happening to our country at the hands of the Democrats, I think He is.
It’s refreshing to see people attack the entire prospect of religion simply because of the callous nature of one such individual. The same “antiquated” and “ignorant” religious people that you vilify and slander on the internet are those that provide more compassion than you are indeed capable of. Frankly, grow up and face the source of your hatred of religion: a stone-faced horror of your impending death.
He’s absolutely right. That land is flush with voodoo and is as cursed as the Kennedy family.
To MASS. residents: This is who your Senator was for 47 years – http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/mjk.htm
Remember, it’s Ted Kennedy’s seat!
Read it and weep:
“In 1697 Spain ceded the western portion of the island, the part called Haiti, to France. Spain kept the eastern half, Saint-Domingue, today the Dominican Republic. After the Arawak were exterminated, both Spaniards and French imported African slaves accustomed to tropical heat and sunshine.
By 1780 the French colony of Haiti with its rich crops of cocoa, sugar cane, cotton and coffee, had become one of the wealthiest places on Earth. This wealth derived from the labor of 500,000 slaves exploited and held down by only 26,000 white French plantation settlers and 30,000 affranchis of mixed ancestry. This disparity of power and numbers would soon end in a bloodbath.
Some of these slaves escaped to the mountains and created their own community. One was a legendary figure named Boukman, almost certainly an African, certainly a houngan (“witch doctor”) of enormous size, strength and charisma.
In Haiti’s capital Port-au-Prince today you can see an iron pig statue. It commemorates the ritual of the African religion Americans today call Voodoo conducted by Boukman on August 14, 1791.
A pig on that day was ritually killed. The escaped slaves joined in drinking its still-warm blood as part of a pact. Boukman led his followers in vowing that they and their children would serve the pagan gods of the island, including the devil, for exactly 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French.
Seven days later the slaves of Haiti rose in rebellion, soaking Haiti in the blood of the French overseers and plantation owners who had enslaved them. “
Wow,
The anti-Christian left really reacts when a Godly man speaks the Truth. Besides, he didn’t say not to help them. He is helping them and praying for them, just like Jesus said to do. The left reacts to Christian Conservatives (like Sarah Palin) the same way demons reacted to Jesus. They FREAKOUT!!!
Even though this wouldn’t be the time to bring this up and start getting recovery and aid to the Haitian nation, this nation from day one of its idependence from France, has been in a darken spiritual stranglehold.
From dictatorships, poverty and Voodooism, this nation has never seen the Light.
Pat Robertson will always do what he does, speak in uncomfortable terms that the World sees as derisions and nonsense.
For the rest of us, prayer and aid is needed for Haiti
1Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
Luke 13:1-5
Haitian religious culture does have a noticeable amount of devil worship. But let’s not let facts get in the way. Pat is a putz, a schmuck, a Christian dog. Oy vey – get rid of the white Christians already!
asshole
Speaking as a Conservative and a Believer in G-d and in His Messiah, I have this to say…Pat Robertson needs to shut his mouth. Does he have some pathological or psychological need to say something outrageous every time there is a tragedy?
In Haiti there may be a half of a million people dead…A HALF OF A MILLION…and he wants to talk about some pact that may have been made over 100 years ago between unnamed peoples and Satan?
C’MON!!!
Keep preaching the truth Pat. For all you non believers, take time to look at what’s happening in our own country. We are not far behind Haiti with our lack of Spirituality. When we as a nation focus on Political Correctness instead of Spiritual Correctness we are headed down the same path as Haiti.It’s easy to criticize someone on subject matter you know nothing about. Read your Bible and know the truth. The truth will set you free. By the way Operation Blessing,a ministry that helps disaster effected countries,was started by Pat Robertson and will be one of the first relief groups in Haiti. Just exactly what are all you Pat Robertson critics doing for the Haitian people? Hey critics, it’s time to put up or shut up. For God so loved the world he gave his only son so that who so ever believes will not parish but have ever lasting life (John 3:16). That means God even loves you critics.
The Haitian earthquake (and the death of everyone in the U.N. Headquarters) should serve as a warning to the United States, where the Obama Administration is making ‘Satanic pacts” with the United Nations:
- Letting UN laws supplant U.S. laws
- Mandating Abortions in Government Health Care
- Forbidding the practice of Christianity in public places (while allowing every other religion)
- Promoting homosexuality in government-run schools
- Turning America into a Socialist country (as a precursor to forcing America to be subjected to communism)
The liberals are arrogant and openn in their hatred of what is right or good. San Francisco may be the next city destroyed by quakes.
There is good and evil in the world. When you practice Voodoo you invite the devil in. When you invite the devil in, bad things happen. Pat Robertson will also be the first one to send help, and lots of it, through Operation Blessing International. It is more compassionate to speak the truth, then a lie.
Look at the face of his co-host! You can tell she’s thinking, “Please, please don’t go off on another crazy theory.” Poor lady.
Ponder this- One day you will have no choice but to let go of that hate. You will feel better instantly if you let it go now. Nothing you wrote is true. Hate only destroys the one who holds on to it.
“pat robertson is an evil bigot and deserves to be tortured and then be dismembered by a wild pack of dogs.
you sir, do not represent the Christian religion or the teachings of Jesus.”
AGAIN: “deserves to be tortured and then be dismembered by a wild pack of dogs.” WOW, not thats some pretty harsh treatment for someone speaking their mind!!!!
ieatcatlitter: you are exactly what you eat.
LOL LOL LOL OBAMA: BUSH DID IT, LOL
“Not God bless Amerikka … but GOD DAMN AMERIKKA” thus sayeth the Reverend Wright. And now we have Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi.
I agree that Robertson should have cited what authority he has that such a pact was made, or he should not have made the statement – period.
It is one thing to criticize Pat, and another to criticize an entire religion and its believers, which many of you seem to be doing. I wonder if you made the same types of comments about our new president’s so-called “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright and his so-called “Christian church” that he attended for almost 20 years.
I am curious to learn from those who know the answer(s) to this: Why is it that Haiti is so poor and the Dominican Republic prosperous? I was not aware there was such a disparity in living conditions until today.
TYPGWB:
They do devil worship sacrifice rituals, black magic, witch doctor stuff.
Look at all the hateful comments.. I think people like wanda jones some of the others have been possed by hate. I going to wish you luck in the future.
People are blind… its the same island, and how much happened to the Dominican? It all happened miles down the coast to Haiti. Seems pretty obvious that God is involved. He is love, but He’s more than that. He corrects and judges His own, but he destroys the wicked. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t help and that He’s not there. We’re not to ask Him to get use to us, its the other way around.
OK all the ignorant ANUSES that bash Pat Robertson, Guess what, they are already ON THE GROUND meeting the needs of hurting people. Operation Blessing was a first responder in Indonesia after the Tsunami, They were first responders after Katrina, They were still in New Orleans a year after Katrina handing out food daily. I was there helping serve meals and giving out food and basic necessities, with lines All the way around Victory Assembly on Airline Hwy. That ministry was there with truck load after truck load of HELP when all you jack arses sat at home and gawked at your TV screens and played arm chair Quarterback. Fact is, he is right about Haiti, they are cursed and they know it. So continue being a-holes, you guys are great at it!
I’m a conservative and a Christian and I absolutely despise Pat Robertson and his all to often kooky comments like these after a world tragedy.
Pat Robertson does not represent Christians. Real Christians are, at this very moment, making donations and praying for the people of Haiti, boarding planes to go over and offer their help and good will.
For all the good work that so many Christians do around the world and are doing now for the people of Haiti, Pat Robertson destroys that good will for one more opportunity to get his face on TV.
I know his comments will give fodder to the liberals who despise Christians, but let it be known that many (most of us) place absolutely no value in Pat Robertson or his continued hateful comments/statements towards others.
Is there any possibility that he can say anything that is more stupid?
To American southerners: This is the stereotype with which the rest
of the country (and world) sees you. A bunch of a**holes who use the
bible as cover to justify your own personal meanness. I know better
so don’t take aim at me, I’m just the messenger. But you really need to
improve your image.
Pat and the Christian right does care. They are sending in their Operation Blessing with millions worth of medicines, food and equipment. Doctors and aid workers will follow. They did the same for Katrina and for the tsunami in Indonesia. They put their money where their mouth is.
The godless and leftist fools do not understand how God operates. He allows things to happen. If He controlled everything you would not be allowed all your favorite perversions.
The comments from people who have actually been to Haiti have more credibility than those who haven’t. As far as helping the people that are Christians right now on the ground helping these people. Although I’m no fan of Pat his ministry will be sending money and assistance to Haiti.
Quit bashing Robertson. Google voodoo worship. Voodoo is the number one religion in Haiti. God and voodooism don’t mix. Robertson is telling the truth. Live with it all you God haters.
Pat Robertson is about Pat Robertson, not Christianity.
God has more attributes than Love. He is a jealous God and a God of Wrath and judgement. He is sovereign and controls all. It may not be punishment as we see it but its God’s will or it wouldn’t have happened.
where is kathy bates from the MOVIE ~Misery~ when you need her , this old insane coot needs to be kidnap so she can get to work on his limbs .
This quote from the poster below is so true! P.R. simple speaks the truth that many Ministers and Pastors no longer do. God watches over those that have faith and believe. It is said that at some point when a culture has removed/separated itself from the faith/belief and day to day living of being a believer of faith………….THE LORD GOD will remove his protection and “earthly sin” will take over. Look at the choices of the country’s people. Prayers for them to know Christ and donatons to show our compassion and love is a call/command to all Christians around the world.
“I’ve been to Haiti several times in recent years. Pat hit the nail on the head. The Haitians that have turned to Christ will tell you so. Those of you who are not “born again” from above as Jesus said, can not understand this. The devil is real and he hates God’s most precious creation…humanity! And his assault is vicious and relentless. I pray that revival will be birthed from this is the hearts of the Haitians and believers around the world. Salvation first…life is temporal, all die, this too shall pass. But the Word of God remains forever”
WTF?? They made a pact with the devil?? Here is the real reason:
The Flying Spaghetti Monster had a bad hangover from his New Years partying and one of his noodeley appendages hit Haiti with such force it caused a 7.0 earthquake.
Why is it people still listen to Robertson and all the other religious zealots who preach the words of their imaginary friend.
People usually become wealthy after making pacts with Satan, i.e. rock stars…and televangelists. The Book of Job blows away the idea that people suffering on the outside is necessarily a reflection on God’s favor or lack thereof. How about mentioning the Haitian soldiers who fought for America at Savannah during the Revolutionary War?
What an a@#hole…What kind of an arrogant self-righteous bastard makes a stupid comment like that when people – children, mothers, fathers – are dying? This disgusting excuse of a human being is ‘exhibit A’ for why religion is toxic to humanity – especially Islam and Christianity.
You go straight to hell Pat Robertson! You are a two bit phoney hateful hyprocrite Christian that embarrasses all of humanity.
He is also saying that they need to turn to God, and that we need to help them. I agree with both of those statements. Why is everyone focusing on his inexplicable speculation about forming a pact with the Devil? Why not focus on the fact that PR is trying to DO SOMETHING for them?
It is true, my people have swore an oath to serve the lord Obama so they are cursed!
I am a prayerful man. Pat Robertson is an embarrassment to Christianity.
voodoo is coming back to haunt them again
I’m going to tell the 189 people that watch my show on MESSNBC, that this guy is an idiot! http://www.AMREN.com
Moron….look at the pictures. If “your” god did that to punish these people, then I want no part of “your” god.
Luke, Chapter 13: [Jesus] said to them in reply, “Do you think that because these Galileans suffered in this way they were greater sinners than all other Galileans? By no means! But I tell you, if you do not repent, you will all perish as they did! Or those eighteen people who were killed when the tower at Siloam fell on them–do you think they were more guilty than everyone else who lived in Jerusalem? By no means! But I tell you, if you do not repent, you will all perish as they did!”
Maybe Pat should try reading the Bible instead of just thumping it.
Omeca – the ‘innocent’?
Read Romans 3:23 – I think it says ..ALL have sinned, even Pat R, even Il Papa, so one would ask, “where’s my punishment?” The answer of course is Isaiah 53.
like I said, bad theology and error have made it difficult to find the truth. But if you seek it…
I would not be too quick to judge Pat Robertson irrespective of what you think. Some things can be a little too “far out” for folks to understand let alone comprehend.
Here’s a quote from Wikipedia:
“Historians traditionally identify the catalyst to revolution as a particular Vodou ceremony in August 1791 performed at Bois Caïman by Dutty Boukman, a priest.”
Maybe this is why Haiti is such an impoverished country with so many problems. The U.S. needs to turn back to God or we will be in the same boat soon.
Pat Robertson is a good old buy, in other words a bigoted racist, who suffers from:
Tourette’s Syndrome
brain damage
low IQ
diarrhea of the mouth
and spews crap from boths ends.
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
That goes double for us in the United States.
We better wise up!
Really! Haiti gets cursed but terrorist friendly countries do not! Really!
Plainly, senility has finally got to him.
Now, here’s one conservative voice that needs to be silenced. This poor old man gives Christianity a BAD NAME!! Talk about bad karma, this guy had better be put back into his padded cell before a brick falls out of the sky and connects with his noggin’!
There are many dead Christians in that rubble.
Greg Rushing:
I agree, but…The same way the American image abroad needs to be improved? Let’s face it, no work of the Christian South will dispel the negative notions of not only their religion, but their overall quality of life and intelligence. It began once they lost the Civil War, and just as America is seen as a nation of gunslinging cowboys, neither stereotype seems to have any indication of subsiding.
Sorry, Pat. It was Haiti’s GOVERNMENT that made that “pact”.
So, you’re saying that God killed 100,000+ INNOCENT people because of what the government did?
Crackpot.
Everyone calm down!
Pat isn’t saying that they deserved it, but there has always been a very dark underbelly to Haiti which has been very tough to pinpoint. He wants to assist the suffering people, but raises an interesting point even if it makes you mad.
Sorry Patster…
In internet land you better have historical reference links.
Claims don’t cut it.
the chick is like “what the hell am i doing on this show listening to this nutsack”
Won’t this hate filled crack just go the way of Jerry Falwell and the rest of the asshole Jesus freaks and die already?
Pat Robertson an elitists who does not understand the love of God. Unfortunatley it takes epic catastrophies in order to bring out the best in people. There is a lesson to be learned. It ought not take catastrophies to show what God instilled in man. Somehow this escapes Pat once again, instead he passes judgement as if he knows Gods mind and as if God is some respector of him. Shame on you Pat!
Why does God allow natural disasters to happen?
http://www.gotquestions.org/natural-disasters.html
I can prove Pat is wrong, but I’ll need a sharp pointy stick and access to your anus to do it.
Guess who is next? The grand old USofA. We’ve made a pact to disown the one and true God and put all faith in man. Blessings over this nation and those who depend on us are dissipating day by day.
Pat Robertson is completely entitled to his opinion. Just because you don’t agree with him, that doesn’t make him wrong, just as it doesn’t make him correct if you do agree with him. But to belittle someone because of their personal beliefs is just wrong.
That was a very stupid,heartless thing to say but for you lefty loons out there how can you
characterize Pat as a mainstream Republican.He is on the fringe. The myth is that the Dems
are the party of compassion–BS. What part of the populace is least charitable–Dems.
Hey Deface please read a history book– Jim Crow laws were created by southern Dems.
KKK was once again, southern democrats. Desegregation ordered by-Republican president.
Creation of welfare state–democrats.MLK Jr.-republican, Harry Reid-idiot democrat.
Pat Robertson should join the Reverend Wright on a comedy revival tour — you each revel in begging God to damn this and that. Come on, for a love offering you can make the people laugh! Fooling the Christian suckers is big money game, isn’t it?
Pat, shut your pie hole, you pious putz!
The Haitian earthquake (and the death of everyone in the U.N. Headquarters) should serve as a warning to the United States, where the Obama Administration is making ‘Satanic pacts” with the United Nations:
- Letting UN laws supplant U.S. laws
- Mandating Abortions in Government Health Care
- Forbidding the practice of Christianity in public places (while allowing every other religion)
- Promoting homosexuality in government-run schools
- Turning America into a Socialist country (as a precursor to forcing America to be subjected to communism)
The liberals today are arrogant and prideful in their hatred of what is right or good. San Francisco may be the next city destroyed by quakes.
It’s fun to read all the tolerant liberal posters here. Robertson knows his history unlike the dumb azz clown libs.
The story has been around for decades and Pat Robertson is obviously a believer in the story. After some research it appears that there are plenty of people both Haitian and non-Haitian that believe the story to be true. I think that it is incredibly stupid for a religious leader to portray the story as being definitely true especially when the story is so controversial to begin with.
To assume that this is s story dreamed up by Pat Robertson on the other hand is quiet stupid as well. The story apparently has had lots of coverage for quite a long period of time. Again, to give much credit to the story makes Pat look rather stupid. However, being open minded, it is certainly possible that some event did actually take place 200 years ago. And Haiti is certainly heavily into vodoo, etc.
The idea that God would curse an entire nation based on what a handful of people did or did not do on the other hand just sounds backwards and rather lame. On the other hand, I can see a nation cursing itself with backwards thinking on their own, which leads to the downfall of many communities, including blacks in the USA letting their own communities go to hell based on very poor leadership and idiotic acceptance of government dependency as a life style, promoted by self serving morons like Jackson, Jerry Wright, Al Sharpton, etc.
Here is a summation of what supposedly happened 200 years ago from an article about the so-called pact with the devil …
It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
Steven said: “It’s crap like this that makes the right look stupid.”
WHAT does being a conservative who opposed socialist tyranny have to do with this guy? Nothing.
Now if Michael Steele makes the same claim, then we have a problem.
Funny thing, when you talk to the people of Haiti many of them believe exactly what Pat has said. But then there are all of you left wing nuts who without knowing any facts start bashing Pat for his statement. I guess that is what the left does best, they dont deal with truths or facts. When judgement day comes and you have to kneel before God you will be a believer then.
http://cheaperbythehalf-dozen.blogspot.com/2007/03/haiti-and-devils-pact.html
http://www.thegreatseparation.com/newsfront/2004/02/a_history_of_ha.html
He’s not making it up.
Pat Robertson is an idiot… God punishing innocent people for something that was done along time ago? What kind of God is that???? Surely, not a loving one that Christianity proposes.
An Earthquake, Flood, Hurricane, etc, are all an Act of God.
As a christian iam sad and depress because i do like Mr . Robertson . i have no idea what he was thinking, It was nice to see he was trying to get the relief going to try and help .but who would think to say such a thing.
This man ran for President of the United States in 1988, lest we forget.
I don’t know if I agree with Robertson saying what he did, but I heard it as fact from
several guys I was stationed with over my years in the Army that Toussaint L’Ouverture
the “George Washington of Haiti” made a pact with the devil to defeat the French. All
aspersions to the French Military aside (read your French history) they had the most
fearsome army of the times and were defeated in Santo Domingue (now Haiti and Dominican
Republic); not by force of arms, but by a yellow fever epidemic that virtually wiped out
the 10 – 15,000 man French Army – which adds to the legitimacy of the legend in my buddies’
opinions.
Now having said all that, it doesn’t mean that the Christian Church should not – or
will not help the poor folks in Haiti; and if you do your homework I think you’ll
find 700 Club will be heavily involved in the relief. From my experience that has
been the case in the past. Believe the guy or not, like him or not. Just sayin’…
James
You hit the nail on the head. Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and Ben Stiller are calling for donations. (An AP story 45 minutes ago)
hahaha…”true story”
Wanda Jones January 13th, 2010 – 2:48 pm
Rev Wanda Pat Robertson Jones has spoken. Hello kettle meet pot.
This guy gives Christians a bad name. Where’s his sense of compassion? Cursed? Pat, please get a life.
While I respect Mr Robertson, I don’t believe that statements like his help bring people to the Lord. The short answer to why these things happen is sin. It’s not necessarily the sins of the Haitian people, but the sins of all of us. That includes you, me, and Pat Robertson. It was our disobedience that brought sin and death into the world. I also know that God is in complete control and will comfort all those who turn to Him. My family sponsors a young girl through Mission of Hope Haiti, and our prayers go out to Dolene, her family, and all the Haitian people. While my heart aches, I trust that as people look for answers, that some of them will turn to Jesus Christ.
Christianity does not need this idiot(Pat) to look stupid,its core belief stands on its own,sort of the “asylum of ignorance”.It has to take ignorance to believe in a pie in the sky that would let the suffering happen to his OWN creation. If god has so much say so across this country, how come we never hear from the devil,his population is far greater then gods.People like Pat make the third world muslim nuts look sane. If Pat could he would make laws that the Mullahs would envey, and he would rule with an iron fist.
While it seems to be the prevailing thought here that things like this make the right look like idiots, in reality it is the left itself that make them look like idiots every time they open their mouths. Reality teaches us for every action there is a reaction, this is true in the physical world as well as the spiritual world. History is full of situations that reveal God’s judgment of Nations. Whether or not this is true of Haiti we don’t know, it is however, Mr Robertson view and as such he has a right to express it just like you have a right to express an opposing view. But just because it comes out of your mouth doesn’t make it true either.
But God does is very clear when He says “The FOOL says in his heart there is no God.”
A little chip and condemm the man. satan is a powerful force today and we all will help. as a christian i will help though those who i know will use my money to help those in need. Iam sure when you see, you will find he will raise alot of money to help those people.
remember; you thought evil against me but God ment it for good. perhaps people will see the fate of these people and the poverty.
Hey Pat, It’s the GLOBAL WARMING STUPID! All of these people are CLIMATE REFUGEES now – http://www.M4GW.com
People, this whole pact with the devil thing on wikipedia is what others have said earlier, only folklore. Just like our Elvis, Sasquatch, and Joseph Smith prophesies in North America. The Library of Congress has no reason to lie to the masses and the posted site is verified and justified through Federal Research, not some folklore nut who decided to post his two-cents on wikipedia. Haiti won independence because they outnumbered the French and the French were careless about securing the island. Read it for yourself as well as my earlier bit about those who practice Santoria also being Christians. It’s all there. Enjoy.
The Haitian politicians regularly practice devil worship which is why so many were wiped out. Haiti will probably be sucked in the earth or disappear beneath the waves.
oh, and all of you fools spitting hate on religion let me remind you liberals that is is dictators who are responsable for the coditions in haiti… so yes.. people like your heros mao and Chavez… everything that is wrong in the world is because of liberals like you and people like pat have to come to the rescue
Saying that Pat R. represents all of Christianity or conservatives or Republicans isn’t much different that him implying that all Haitians are the same.
God bless those poor people…they need all of our help and prayers…as for Mr. Robertson…I will pray for you because you are not right in the head. You should keep your sick thoughts to yourself!
This man is no Christian.
It’s voodoo i’s tells you!
This evil old fart needs to just go back to the nut house and give back the millions he’s taken from those he’s tricked over the year’s into believeing he is a religious man
IF Pat Robertson is right, then San Francisco may be the next “Sodom” or “Gomorrah” destroyed by a massive “natural disaster”.
Pat Robertson, doing everything he can to make sure Christians are hated worldwide.
I tell you what, I’ll make a deal to serve the devil if he’ll agree to take this stupid schmuck out of this world once and for all. What an asshole — it’s this kind of nonesense that makes me hate Christians.
Hey Pat, is this what Jesus would have said? More likely, he would advise us to show His love by getting the people the water, supplies, medicine and other help they need. You are doing Christianity harm by saying this stuff, brother.
Pat Robertson is a sick religious zealot.
I think it’s time for this NUTKNOB to spend some quality time in a room with padded walls…..
I can’t wait for the day when we as a country and get back to God and away from this atheistic evangelical fundamentalist nonsense!
What kind of pact did you make to ensure your diamond mines continue to be worked by children?
Left-wing twits just blame disasters like this on global warming. Not much different.
Soooo…. if God is punishing them for something their ancestors allegedly did, isn’t Pat going against God by sending help?
This sort of thing is why ‘Christian’ is becoming a dirty word.
Mr. Robertson lost his marbles years ago. He does not represent Christianity, he represents some superstitious charismatic offshoot. Please don’t waste your time taking his words seriously.
If God would only wipe out a substantial portion of the islamic world!
CBN’s Operation Blessing International has been in Haiti for years providing relief and medical help. They are there right now helping the people. If you could cool your anger at Pat Robinson for a moment, it might help you to get the facts from the link below.
https://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/January/Powerful-Quake-Hits-Impoverished-Haiti/
I find it absurd that some of you are actually in agreement with that clown. God did not create the earthquake.
Neither did the toothfairy, nor the Easter Bunny, nor Santa Clause. I can not beleive that any adult would actually beleive such nonsense!!!
Pat Robinson is a worthless schmuck. To invoke god punishing Haiti is blasphemy.
W
Obama will let em all come here, more votes for him.Get ready for a haitian neighbor near you
That poor woman is looking at him as he’s talking like he’s just grown a 3rd eye out of his forehead.
Pat Robertson has his little following (heck, so does Carrot Top, and SNL), but the vast majority of Christians do not believe the way he does – I don’t!
Harry Reid just issued a statement: “The people of Haiti are too dark and talk jive so I guess it’s OK”
LOL at LIB’TARDS
IF Pat Robertson is right, then San Francisco, CA or Hollywood, CA may be the next “Sodom” or “Gomorrah” cities destroyed by a massive “natural disaster”.
Pat Robertson gives good Christians a bad name.
I have to say, as a former pastor, I hate Christians.
Well once again, Pat opens his mouth and s*** comes out. Why do people listen and follow him. He is a total nutcase. Maybe he made a pact with the devil.
Bring them all to America, New England is mostly white, more enrichment is needed.
I listened to what Pat Robertson said and find nothing in it but the truth. A nation is cursed or blessed by God based on the leaders rejection of the One True God, or not.
The Haitians made a pact with the devil and cursed their descendents. The Word of God says “a Curse does not come without cause”-Proverbs 26:2.
To get free of the curse for their half of the island, there must be repentance before the One True God, and a renouncing of the pact with the devil which the ancestors made.
Meantime, Robertson was compassionate for the Haitians and is not refusing to aid them.
I’m not saying he’s right about the pact with the devil thing (I’ve been scouring the internet trying to find out what he’s referring to, but all you find is articles saying ‘Pat Robertson says Hatians deserved it!’)…
But it seems to me this statement is being taken out of context. From the phone number on the bottom of the screen and what he says toward the end of the clip, it looks like he’s trying to get people to HELP the suffering people of Haiti. He’s also trying add a spiritual perspective–that he believes the poor people of Haiti have so many troubles and have suffered so much because of what they did in the past. Re-watch the clip. He isn’t wagging his finger saying they’re bad, they deserved it, and we should let them die. Is he?
If you don’t agree with him about the pact with the devil thing, fine. But in the end, he’s trying to help these people and that’s the important thing, right?
Am I the only one who sees this?
Calm down. Put down your pitchforks. Think for yourselves. Don’t let the media tell you how to interpret these things and don’t let your tempers flare just because you want someone to be angry at.
**In response to the old question: “Why would a loving God allow suffering in the world”? The answer to that is what Christianity is all about. The world IS messed up. Christ said there WOULD be suffering. You can count on it. The point of Christianity is that someday, all these wrong things will be made right, the broken world will be restored, and everything will be made new again. In the meantime, we struggle with each other as wait for that day.
BAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHahahahahha
Pat Robertson is such a dick!
How did the Dominican Republic escape damage? Same small island, I don’t get it.
HARRY REID SAID HE THINKS THEY ARE TOO DARK…LOL AT LIBS
I used to watch your show despite my family’s objections that you are not a real Christian. I see now that that is true. You are not a man of God.. I am so disappointed in you. False prophet that you have shown yourself to be.
Those of you who are Pat Haters need to listen to the whole interview. I bet his foundation has or will will contribute funds and people to help the Haitians. How have the Haters helped? Criticizing Pat……..better pull the plank from your eye.
Read up on Haiti. They did swear an oath to overthrow the plantation owners. Fact is that they did this. Whether you believe in the Devil or not, history (their own as well) records this deed. So, as far as God ‘allowing this’ they booted him out….
Actually, it was the Devil who crappped Pat Robertson.
Earth to Pat, Earth to Pat, come in Pat….
What this world really needs is a ‘bring out your god’ day. Then you can show off your God and we can test their powers with bending an iron bar or ripping a telephone book in half. What a sick sorry joke believing in a God is.
If I ever meet your God I’m going to poke it in the eye.
To all you Christian haters you explain why there’s such a disparity between the two halves of the island.
Just think, if God acted out the way some of you think HE should, by not allowing these kinds of tragedies to happen, then he might also have prevented you from living let alone being born.
Maybe you should thank him for not micromanaging.
More research on the story led to this interesting claim …
On 14 August 1791, a black slave and witch doctor named Boukman led the slaves in a voodoo ritual. They sacrificed a pig and drank its blood to form a pact with the devil, whereby they agreed to serve the spirits of the island for 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French. The slave rebellion commenced on 22 August 1791, and after 13 years of conflict, the slaves won their independence. On 1 January 1804 they declared Haiti the world’s first independent black republic. An iron statue of a pig stands in Port-au-Prince to commemorate the “Boukman Contract”. (Link 1)
My words …
It seems again that Haitians were heavily into voodoo since it was imported with the black slaves from Africa after Christopher Columbus discovered Haiti and named it Hispaniola. Again, my belief is that Haitians do suffer from a curse of their own making, which involves backwards thinking and their own acceptance of many of their own superstitions, especially those involving voodoo spirits, etc.
Pat, just stop. Put a sock in it and STOP!! Good grief what a lunatic. I am not religious but I am in no way anti-religious. I am very conservative and traditional but guys like this damage the reputation of normal Christianity which has done far and away more good for more people, all over the world, than any other religion, organization or government. Pat is sincere but he just can’t seem to stop eating his feet.
Dear Mr. Robertson- You know that direct line to the Mind of God that you think you have? Well, I think He hung up on you. Your time would be better spent reading some history on the political and economic oppression of Haiti than lecturing the world and blaming the victims. Shame on you!
Hey! Those of you calling Pat Robertson a kook:
How many donations are you out there gathering to send to hurting people in Haiti? Or how much are you even sending out of your own pocket? Pat Robertson was on this program to raise money for the Haitian victims. You think you can do better? Then do so. Put up or shut up.
remeber this is the same guy who said methodists are of the devil
There was nothing wrong with his comment.He is right, They have turned against God. All of you fools are just like they are.That means you Wanda!!! God will do the same to the USA for the evil that we have turned to
What a completely EVIL CESSPOOL MOUTH!
What cracks me up is the part where he talks about the devil responding to the request the people made to him, and I quote from Pat’s video:
“… and the devil said, OK it’s a deal”.
What an absolute idiot! He and people of his ilk, give Christianity a bad name! If he’s not careful, he’s gonna hit the deck the same way Jerry Fallwell did!!
Of all the people name-calling, how many of you actually watched the clip? How many of you know that Robertson’s ministry funds and runs numerous charitable groups that assist the poor and needy day in and day out. How many of you know that news organizations constantly search for any type of dirt on any of these organizations just to bring Robertson down – but have been unsuccessful in finding any wrongdoing.
Most of you calling Robertson names seem to have a problem with believing one or more of the following:
1. there is God, 2. there is satan 3. these entities have any effect one way or another on world events and/or personal lives 4. people throughout time have believed in variations of those mentioned above 5. people throughout time have interacted with God and/or satan 6. there is a collection of books that records earlier interactions.
So why do you CARE what Pat Robertson says?
If it bothers you so much, why not get in there and read the sources that Robertson says he believes. The entire Bible is not that big a collection of books, and there are plenty of tools you can use to help understand any difficult entries. Is what he says true? According to the sources he says he believes? Just writing “What and embarrassment” or “SHUT UP YOU IDIOT” isn’t really going to persuade anybody anywhere.
What a POS. No class whatsoever.
Pat,
Osama bin Laden here. I thought i was a religious idiot until I read this comment. You take the cake! You should be the one living in a cave. You are a jackass and give religion a bad name.
I think god can think of a lot of better ways to get his point across then to have it said through Pat. What an idiot. God obviously doesn’t like pat because he has a weird shape head. Must be from a pact he made with the devil!
ummm . . . the Haitians got rid of the French by a) stalling them long enough that many of the French soldiers died of disease; b) tricked the French into thinking there were more rebel soldiers than there actually were and; c) by not being French. Pat needs to get over himself and make way for people who a) care about the Haitians (Christian or not); b) want to help in the recovery efforts, and; c) know what the hell they are talking about.
ACORN is already dispatching a group to Haiti to register new voters for the upcoming Massachusetts senate election. Rock the vote!
He makes me want to vom. He needs to just shut up and stop bringing shame to the name of Jesus and Christianity. What an embarrassment he is to us all. Geesh.
… however, he HAS probably given more help and charity than just about any lib in the media. Yes, he’s got foot in mouth disease, but in general is a compassionate person. (just want to clarify that)
Its comments like this that kept me away for almost 40 years from committing my life to Christ – and how glad I finally did . To those reading this who want to lump all Christians together based on such a “leader’s” comments, I understand. I did the same for years. But please take a step back. Pat Robertson does not know what is in God’s mind – no human does. How dare him say as much. Being a Christian starts with, simply enough, being as much like Christ as possible. To paraphrase Gandhi, “I like your Jesus, but not your Christians”. I am responsible for me first and foremost. Once I get to the “level” of Jesus, maybe I will start working on you. Get it? I’ll never reach that level, but will be turning into a better person along the way. I encourage you to at least study the life and works of Jesus first. You will be surpised at how much content you feel and how the craziness of this world is so much more tolerable. Its good to have a purpose, a direction, a reason.
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I’m not a fan of Robertson (overall he does more good than bad), but Haiti is saturated with voodoo witchcraft. I have a CIA book on Haiti that even describes voodoo practiced all the way to the top leaders there. Some good theological/philsophical questions to ask is: Does God cause it? or Permit it? Do powerful fallen cosmic beings (e.g. Satan/Lucifer, fallen divine council members http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/ , fallen principalities, etc.) cause it with God allowing it? Are there both natural & satanic earthquakes/tsunamis that should have happened all over, but God lovingly prevented them?
Another story from another article about the so-called pact. Again, this is fairly common knowledge, based on my quick research …
On 14 August 1791, a black slave and witch doctor named Boukman led the slaves in a voodoo ritual. They sacrificed a pig and drank its blood to form a pact with the devil, whereby they agreed to serve the spirits of the island for 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French. The slave rebellion commenced on 22 August 1791, and after 13 years of conflict, the slaves won their independence. On 1 January 1804 they declared Haiti the world’s first independent black republic. An iron statue of a pig stands in Port-au-Prince to commemorate the “Boukman Contract”. (Link 1)
I AM THE DEVIL!! and I dont remember any pact with haiti… this guy is a Moron
Time for the likes of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc,. to shut up.
Pat is a man of faith… faith in spiteful God.
Look, I know there’s a lot of voodoo and other witchcraft going on down there, and it’s been run by horrible dictators for decades, but if it WERE an act God, couldn’t He have just sent some lightning strikes to target the evil doers? Why does everyone have to pay with their lives?
Dave January 13th, 2010 – 2:43 pm
It is horrifying that in this era of men on the moon,laserbeams,flying aircraft and advanced medicines that there are still people that are so stupid and so superstitious that they would actually believe the words that these religious zealots utter.
We haven’t come very far at all,in fact,if it were still allowed,these religious creeps would still burn alive those that disagree with them and their doctrines.
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What was that about burning people alive Dave? Not saying why the earthquake happened in Haiti, but for you people to avoid the fact that their are still archaic rituals that sacrifice humans, shows you are the ones who are ignorant.
Jan 7, 2010 … Witch doctors in Uganda have admitted their part in human sacrifice amid concerns that the practice is spreading in the African country. …The Telegraph
The African country’s government claimed human sacrifice was on the increase.
According to officials trying to tackle it, the crime is directly linked to rising levels of development and prosperity – and an increasing belief that witchcraft can help people get rich quickly.
During its investigation, to be broadcast on Thursday on Radio 4 and Newsnight, the BBC team witnessed anti-sacrifice campaigners torching the shrine of a witch-doctor in northern Uganda, who agreed to give up the practice.
Now, who should be tortured
He said clients came to him in search of wealth.
“They go and capture other people’s children. They bring the heart and the blood directly here to take to the spirits,” he said.
“They bring them in small tins and they place these objects under the tree from which the voices of the spirits are coming.”
The witch doctor, who said he was paid 500,000 Ugandan shillings (around £160) for a consultation, denied any direct involvement in murder or incitement to murder, saying his spirits spoke directly to clients.
I just watched this video and I get that Operation Blessing is sending relief to Haiti. Pat is asking for prayer for people. It’s been a well-known fact that many Haitians are involved in voodoo and witchcraft and have been for many years. He reported that this is a true fact, not something he made up. Wow! Some of you people are condemning him for something he didn’t really say. He did say that country has been under a curse, and that’s Biblical.
He also says that he prays that something good comes from this. I’m amazed that so many are judging PR with your own standards of hatred.
I’ve been there before. It’s a wicked and corrupt place. That being said, there are a lot of good people there, including a Coast Guard friend of mine’s family in Port au Prince, and he has no idea how they are. I don’t watch Pat. But I remember when he was attacked years ago for saying the CIA should kill Hugo Chavez before he became a dangerous dictator. Guess what? Pat was right. Like another poster, I wish he would provide a little EVIDENCE for his strange theory, though.
Godless moron liberals out in force here. All he did was state factual history. In its earliest years Haiti was a godless slave trading pit of the sleeziest humanity on earth–so vile it was considered the equivelant to Sodom and Gomorrah. You might not want to admit it’s history but you have an obvious lack of intelligence when Mr. Robertson states the historical facts and you choose to attack him. You act as if he wanted this to happen. If he did want it to happen he surely would not pray for them and ask for donations.
Dear Pat. “Let you who have never sinned cast the first stone.” “Those that help even the least of them do so unto me.” Now get on your big jet and fly down there and show us how much you believe. “Faith without works is useless.”
Besides… How does this make Pat any worse then the religious group that pickets in front of funeral homes claiming they deserved what they got? Not much difference between them, both are the same.
Luke 18:9-14
He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and despised others: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, `God, I thank thee that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, `God, be merciful to me a sinner! I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for every one who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
“Haiti is the only country in the entire world that has dedicated its government to Satan. Demonic spirits have been consulted for political decisions, and have shaped the country’s history.” Thus speaks Reverend Doug Anderson, who grew up in Haiti with missionary parents, and served there along with his wife Dawn as a missionary until 1990. The leaders of Haiti make no attempt to hide their allegiance to Satan. Haiti’s government is a government of the devil, by the devil, and for the devil.
It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
As asked by Bodhi:
mr. robertson should face the truth and ask the question:
why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?
Bodhi,
So Bodhi –
God is a just God. In the same way that mankind cries out for justice when we see injustice occur – think child molestation or rape – in the same we need to see justice – God must punish Sin – otherwise, he would not be just. He does not want there to be pain, suffering, hurt – but because sin entered this world (through Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit in the garden, God’s intended relationship with man was destroyed. As a result, man sins, and pain and suffering are experienced by all of us. The good news is, God has a plan to remedy this situation – he sent his Son to pay the price for sin, so that we would not be personally liable for the cost of the sin – that cost is Death, and when Jesus Christ died on the cross, he paid that price. Then he rose again, and ascended into Heaven. If you believe in Jesus Christ, and believe that he died for your sins, you can be saved, and spend eternity living with the Loving God who created you, in a place where there will be no pain, no suffering, no carnage. Sounds good, right?
I hope those LOST SOULS come back and CURSE him , it would be fitting
I’m praying for us all…including Pat.
Spread Love, don’t hate.
Didn’t his private plane crash? Why the hell wasn’t he on it?
so Haiti made a deal with Nancy Pelosi?
just one little p.s. Pay special attention to how prophets and the men of God were treated by the people who didn’t know the Torah (first five books of the Hebrew Bible), and by those who professed to know, but didn’t incorporate that knowledge into their lives.
good grief. i wanna punch this guy in the junk. i love me some Jesus and my Jesus is way bigger than the crap this guy is spittin.
Wow. “True Story”, really? Can you cite it somewhere?
But look, anyone who wants to say something like “typical republican”, “typical born again” or “typical religious zealot” is way off point, and being just as hurtfully divisive. I’m a republican catholic, and thus find myself having some things very much in common with mainstream right-wing evangelicals, and some things very much in common. Either way, Pat Robertson is in no way representative of anyone but Pat Robertson. God Bless Haiti.
Robertson speaks the truth; Haitian blacks DID form a pact with the devil to evict whitey. Haiti has been an impoverished voodoo-practicing cesspool ever since the blacks killed off whitey. Judging by most of the foolish hateful comments in here from those who do not fear God, the USA is also ripe for some serious judgement from God. Repent …. or hang on to your hats, folks!
And by the way, Roberston is soliciting money to help the people of Haiti. What are you windbags doing?
darwin January 13th, 2010 – 3:22 pm
“There are many dead Christians in that rubble.”
Hey Darwin… If they are like Pat Robertson…we can only hope.
before you all throw Pat Robertson to the lions,consider this,the worst natural disater to hit the United States was Hurricane Katrina,and where did it hit?,the voodoo capital of America,New Orleans, known for its corruption and pagan spritual practices and rituals,then Indonesia’s tsunami,a muslim country that persecutes Christians on a daily basis,now this in Haiti,the center of voodoo culture,kinda makes ya go hmmmm?? doesnt it
Hmmm, so the Haitians make a pact with the devil a couple hundred years ago, and the merciless forgiving God you preach about is still punishing them?
I suppose had America made that same type of pact a hundred years ago the tectonic plates responsible for this quake would have magically appeared under Washington DC?
Did you know that 70% of people living in Haiti practice some form of Voodoo? Voodoo! Hear him right or you will hear him wrong. He is asking you to pray for these people that they come out of the spiritual darkness of Voodoo! Is it so crazy to believe that a people can be cursed? Look at the evidence! Pat Robertson, although you may not want to hear and understand it, is a friend to these people. We seem so willing to believe in ghosts and spirits in theory but when it stares us in the face of reality, we laugh at it and pretend it doesn’t exist. There is a spirit world out there and the Haitian people have crossed the line into communicating with the spirit world. The Bible teaches that this is very dangerous. Evil spirits disguise themselves as good spirits and cause chaos and havoc. These poor people will never thrive until they turn away from this wicked practice. Pat Robertson only wants to help them and part of that includes being honest about their religious practices. I will guarantee he will send truckload after truckload of relief to the area and has people on the ground there as we speak. What are you doing for them? Sometimes the truth hurts. Like it or not Haiti is a cursed land. Pat Robertson loves them enough to speak the truth. If we love these people, we will pray not only for them to survive this nightmare but that they will turn to God and denounce Voodoo. It’s there only hope and he is asking for your help.
The scariest thing about Pat Robertson is that many people — presumably sane people, no less — support him and believe his comments. I’m dead serious about this: It’s truly scary to think such people walk the Earth.
What an idiotic statement. So lets recap: apparently, the leaders of the Haitian revolution got together one day, conjured up Satan, and signed some sort of treaty with him binding their descendents to suffering from earthquakes 200 years later in exchange for help against the French????? Oh yeah, and now apparently the Dominican Republic is some wealthy, prosperous first world nation?
Let’s hope that Pat is actually held accountable this time for such stupid comments. He’s made stupid comments like this before and “apologized” for them. Apology not accepted this time (should it ever come). Be gone already, Pat. You are not a Christian. You are not even human. Go back to hell from whence you came, you fat != U & !< !
Nice job duane. Well said.
It all began back in the Garden of Eden. Man knew God face to face and talked with Him daily. Satan walked into that paradise and told Eve….look at that desirable fruit of the tree of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. They already knew God who is good. They decided they must know evil and in essence invited Satan to take over their perfect dominion. Look what has happened ever since. Earthquakes, storms, wars, atrocities…and it seems the knowledge of evil is coming to a head. Pat is right! No one has to believe him. Everyone does have to sit back and watch what happens. It will be a growing phenomenon. The earthquakes are predicted by our Lord Himself. In the last days He said there would be a great increase in those and other things. Did He get it right? YOU KNOW!
Faith and prayer are amazing things. For the non-believers no explantion will be good enough to the believers none is needed. I believe the people of Haiti have been used by others and there own leaders. They have made some bad choices. Also being illiterate doesn’t help.
re: why would his loving god allow this much suffering and carnage?
You forget – there is Evil in the world too. How would you know what good/love is unless you see what evil/hate is? How much is “this much”? If only 10,000 people were killed you would still say “this much”. If nobody was killed but all the houses where wiped out…you would still stay “this much”.
Ask yourself this question: if Hati did make a pact with the devil how much destruction will it take for you to become a believer?
I think Pat Robertson has more insight on biblical answers to current events than anyone who has responded here. His comments will sound wacky to those of you who don’t know the Bible and what our Lord has commanded us to do.
When I see the streams and pictures of the damage, and the people tattered and bleeding and at the point of hopelessness, and then I hear the irresponsible language from the very fortunate and privileged (not to mention safe and comfy) Pat Robertson, kicking these people when they down.. I get so angry I realize Mr Robertson is about as close to the devil as one could be.
How dare he. This isn’t the first time he tosses around such callous ponderings on the backs of others while he slips into one of his fleet of white Mercede’s and travels under body guard down the road to one of his cozy mansions in his gated community.
If I were one of the faithful and a God fearing man, I would be so angry at Mr Robertson for making the rest of us real folks look like such asses if we subscribe to the same God and he prances around saying such godless garbage.
It’s so disturbing that it’s 2010, and people still are saying, “this is an act of god”. (And this lunatic Pat Robertson has no right being able to broadcast his insane thoughts to anyone but himself) This was an earthquake. It did not have anything to do with anything besides the earth’s plates moving around. What the F is the matter with you people talking about god? Why do you have to be so crazy? The only thing people need to take from the bible, the ONLY thing, is treat others as you would like to be treated. If everyone did that, this would be such a great world to live in. Instead, religious fanatics from ALL sides ruin it (because not EVERYONE can be right, simply not possible, and has caused wars for thousands and thousands and thousands of years). And from listening to people around the world still today, it won’t ever end.
Just a conservative voice chiming in to say that Pat Robertson is a complete flaming dick. Sorry, I usually try to be more articulate, but sheesh!
Hey David, so it is ok for Ghandi to be a bigot against an entire religion, stating that he likes Christ but not Christians. I don’t blame you for the quote, which I have heard many times before, but to me, it sounds like it came from an outright religious bigot, which Ghandi happened to be on more than one occasion. The idea that Ghandi must be treated with kid gloves and respect when he makes outright bigoted statements is also kind of dumb. And you backing him up in his bigotry says a lot about you.
Extreme response to this story in either direction shows off stupidity on both sides.
I need to apologize for my previous comment. I don’t think before I type most times, and I did not mean a word of what I said. I really do not wish that Pat Robertson would die. I apologize.
Pat Robertson can suck a fat dick
With comments like that, old man, I hope you don’t believe in Voodoo. Well, I guess it wouldn’t matter… in any case, with the kind of so-called “Spiritual leadership” Robertson provides, and at his age, he might have some roasting to do before too long.
Is that what Jesus would do? Cause the deaths of thousands of innocent people because somebody somewhere “made a pact with the devil”? When you fundy “Thank God for IED” types hear about religion getting kicked out of schools and general American life, remember that it’s because people are sick of evil men like Pat Roberston. By the way, Robertson, what happened to that tsunami you predicted here in Oregon, you Bible-waving False Prophet?
why no mention of santa, the easter bunny and the tooth fairy, while we are making up stories. are you sure none of them made a deal with the tsunami victims?
Pat If only you were losing it in your old age…unfortunately u really believe this stuff – Lunatic.
What Pat says is true – the great tribulation is coming to this earth soon, all will be judged – repent now and accept Jesus Christ as your savior, recognize the one and only true God and the holy spirit, lest you perish in the pit with Lucifer and his demons.
Please do not judge all Christians by Pat Robinson. This is a statement of a person who is so detached from the nations. Jesus had compassion for all and he wept at our suffering, he begged forgiveness for (not from) those who crucified Him.
I am reminded of the story of JOB. Pat R is exactly like one of Job’s friends who came to him and basically said “you must have done something awful to God” Rather than come beside him and comfort him and be his freind.
Wherever catastrophe hits true hearts in the faith are filled with compassion and prayers for the victims. We do not add to it comments like this
If any of you for one second believe that this god you beleive in, this loving god, this god that loved us soooooo much that he sent his only son down to earth to die for our sins in the most brutal way, would send an earthquake to haiti to destroy it, you must all be insane! This is what your merciful god, this is what your caring and loving and giving god does? If you do not give your life to god he will destroy it? If you believe that then your god is also vengeful and spiteful, and mean and vicious and blood thirsty.
It’s called plate tectonics what an ignoramous
Most of the people posting here are really taking his comments out of context simply out of ignorance of Pentecostal beliefs. Pat was simply suggesting that it was a very real posibility that many of Haiti’s long term problems could be caused by demonic influence. There is nothing he said that violates the teaching of the Scriptures. When a people’s leaders sell themselves (whether through “pacts” or simply free will choice) to do the work of Satan, ALL the people will suffer. This is a principle that can be seen to play out multiple times in the history of Israel under wicked kings. Pat is not saying the people of Haiti are all (or even mostly) devil worshipers. But, given their abnormal degree of misfortune and frequent disasters, it is likely they are suffering under a generation curse for the sins of their past leaders. Any curse of this kind can only be broken by repentence and turning to Christ, binding Satan and breaking any and all curses through the name of the Lord Jesus. Many of the Christian believers in Haiti would not disagee with anything Pat said.
if everyone who is hit by a natural disaster is cursed then the whole planet is cursed. Maybe religion is the problem; seems to cause more death than natural disasters…..
I suppose I might consider a pact with the devil to be free from the French–never mind. Roberson has been losing credibility for years. This is only one more very sad example. By no means does he represent the majority of evangelical Christians. The problem, Joe, is not that he talk with God; it’s that he thinks God talks with him.
God set up the world to work a certain way. And He has the power to control the elements. Whether he does or not is His business, but every Christian should understand that we are living in the end times for this planet. God has determined a set date at which it will all end. And what is happening now is just the “beginnings of sorrows.” Haiti just happened to get it this time. Things are only going to get worse, but the only one free to judge Haiti or anyone else is God. And it looks like He’s started the ball rolling on that one. And it didn’t begin with Haiti. Hang on tight because it’s going to eventually be a very rough ride.
Stop praying and start helping. Prayer isn’t doing anyone any good.
I guess the whole ‘let God do the Judging’ thing slipped right over Pats head.. unless of course, it does sound like he thinks he is God.. so he may have a case.
Disgusting.
i just get a kick out of people who are ignorant of history and make such stupid remarks
PC said on January 13th @ 3:37 pm:
“so Haiti made a deal with Nancy Pelosi?”
ROFLMAO!
Robertson give Christians like me and others a bad name. I too speak with God, he tells me to never judge, seek peace and be an example of humility, charity and stewardship. He also tells me that guys like PR are fools; are to be avoided and will get there’s in the end.
Some people can’t handle the truth. 50% of Haitians practice voodoo. It is the poorest country in the western hemisphere because of thier own actions. The rest of the west has tried to help this county to no avail.
Pat Robertson is our Elmer Gantry.
A fake.
A quack.
A spiritually hollow man who lacks compassion and heart.
I should smack him upside the head with his own bible.
Pact with the Devil? Pat Robertson, you are a douche!
Where was the outrage when islam proclaimed Katrina was allahs wrath against christianity
Pat Robertson does not understand the ministry of reconciliation. It is not God’s doing or Satan’s. It is the result of plates shifting under the earth and houses built below standards that can keep them up during such an event. If this way of thinking were so, most cities in the world should have collapsed by now. God died for all of those people and He loves them. I encourage all people to give what you can to organizations who can be of help such as samaritanspurse.org, worldvision.org, and ag.org. You may not have much, but if we all give what we can, it will make a difference.
For God so LOVED the world that He GAVE His only begotten Son the WHOEVER believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:16-17
At last! A voice of common sense! I can’t wait to join this guy’s religion!
What is he with, Our Lady of Perpetual Loonie?
God is not loving to people who betray him.
i’m curious to know how pat knows what the devil said…
let’s borrow money from China and give it to Haiti.
This is the wikipedia entry for Dutty Boukman, the priest that supposedly made the pact with the devil …
Background
Boukman was born in Jamaica, and later sold by his British master to a French plantation owner, who put him to work as a commandeur (slave driver) and, later, a coach driver. His French name came from his English nickname, “Book Man,” which he earned due to his ability to read.
[edit]Ceremony at the Bois Caïman
On 22 August 1791, Boukman presided in the role of houngan (priest) together with an African-born priestess and conducted a ceremony at the Bois Caïman and prophesied that the slaves Jean François, Biassou, and Jeannot would be leaders of a slave revolt that would free the slaves of Saint-Domingue. A pig, which symbolized the wild, free, and untamable spiritual power of the forest and the ancestors, was sacrificed, an oath was taken, and Boukman and the priestess exhorted the listeners to fight bravely against their oppressors. Days later the Haitian Revolution began.[2] Boukman was not the first to attempt a slave uprising in Saint-Domingue, as he was preceded by others, such as Padrejean in 1676, and François Mackandal in 1757. However, his large size, warrior-like appearance, and fearsome temper made him an effective leader and helped spark the Haitian Revolution.[3]
[edit]Death and legacy
Soon after the uprising began, French authorities captured Boukman and executed him by beheading. The French then publicly displayed Boukman’s head in an attempt to dispel the aura of invincibility that Boukman had cultivated. However it remained strong, and their attempt failed.
Haitians honored Boukman by admitting him into the pantheon of loa (Vodou spirits).[4]
Check out this link for an excellent examination of this issue, as written by a Ph.D. This is probably the definitive look at this topic (and it doesn’t favour Robertson’s opinion): http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
He’s spot on. Haiti is a dump…raped by its people……devoid of anything useful….lives off of foreign aid. France should take it back.
To those who do not look at all of life as Spiritual, Robertson is a fool. I understand that. Your comments do not offend me because you have no understanding. I expect you to respond like that. But I look at life as Spiritual. VOODOO is rampant in Haiti. The comparison with the DR is stunning.
ok ya’ll, first off, not all not all conservatives are repubs and vise verse(sp), so let’s lay aside the politics for a moment shall we? And, not everyone who says that they are Christian, is, either. It all depends on your definition of “Christian”, doesn’t it? Even if you just boil it down to the basic definition of someone who puts thier entire faith in the saving grace of Jesus Christ, there are many people who will still believe that and then take and still run along and live thier lives as if nothing has changed and spout off as if nothing has changed either. They really don’t WANT it to change thier immediate lives because they like it too much, they are just hedging thier bets in the long run. Please understand that Pat Robertson does NOT speak for Christians all over the USA, the world or for any really large group at all, no matter what HE says. Each one of us can speak quite well for ourselves, thank you very kindly. As far as the folks in Haiti, they are no more special in God’s eyes than anybody else, and that is saying that they are no LESS special either. Each one of us has just as much opportunity to come to know him as any other one of us. God loves each of us the same, it is we who turn away from HIM. Why do you think there are so many missionaries that are right now down in Haiti by the way? For the scenery? HE holds out His arms to all of us all the time, we’re the ones who spit in His face, call Him names and all around curse His name whenever something bad happens. Think about it, if you were Him, would you keep holding out for us? Keep praying for those folks in Haiti.
What you people don’t say is that Haiti is full of black magic and voo-doo witch doctors. And practiced by 95% of the island population. I think that Pat should have pointed that out. Maybe that’s what he was thinking, just didn’t say it.
Once again Pat Robertson preaches anything but the word of God. He should teach a class on how to make the world hate Christians, because he is so good at it.
God does not test/punish us with evil
James 1:13 – “When under trial, let no one say “I am being tried by God”. For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.”
Pat Robertson is a doddering fool who needs to retire; and what’s with his “Co-Host” who just sat there and didn’t have the guts or the mental capacity to dispute his idiotic utterances?
Pat Robinson likes to sniff the pickle. True story!
Christians are a wacky and superstitious bunch but this guy sets the bar.
OUT!
Rebecca January 13th, 2010 – 3:33 pm
“… guys like this damage the reputation of normal Christianity which has done far and away more good for more people, all over the world, than any other religion, organization or government….”
Rebecca – FYI Christianity is probably the cause of more bloodshed over the last 2000 years than any other religion or cause (or natural disaster for that matter). All the armies who butchered nations throughout the centuries always conveniently did so carrying the cross. Take a history lesson.
Dear God.
You have proven once again that you are not real by letting doodieheads like this guy do your speaking. Perhaps if you did exist, then maybe youd set the record straight once and for all. Maybe you are real, and get your jollies from watching this petty argument become a global divide. Either way, i will point to anyone who subscribes to all this fairy tall bullstink and say, “you eat large amounts of dead (extramarital relations) straight from my torn spleen, because its gods will.” And they cant argue. Your not going to argue with god are you? Heck no. hes so merciful that a special place full of torment is waiting for you if you dont kiss his butt for no reason at all other than fear of punishment.
There is no god you stupid old man. Jokes on you….you’ve wasted your life! HA HA HA!!!
The same guy who blamed gays for Katrina, right? What a backwards old turd. Where was he when all those tornadoes were whjipping up the Bible Belt? Yeah, God wasn’t “punishing” anyone then, right? Assh*t.
we should nuke Haiti now and put these poor souls out of their misery
I think Pat and the Devil have been 69ing again.
The idiotic lefties in here can say what they want about Robertson, but of course the FACTS speak for themselves regarding Haiti and its long-practiced and revered ‘voodoo’, with their recent president and government there even making it an official ‘religion’ there, recently:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2985627.stm
It’s ‘peculiar’ how the lefties will say nothing about VOODOO and all of that, but will go out of their way to attack Robertson and Christianity.
Interesting how there is a lot of name calling but no facts to refute what he is saying. I may be wrong but I thought the Democratic party was the home of people of many different religions with equally as interesting beliefs but I don’t ever see them being made fun of. If it is a fact that the leaders of Haiti way back when did believe in voodoo and satanism and made a pact with the devil to get rid of the French are you going to laugh and make fun of Haitians for their beliefs? Have you ever read the Bible? It is full of curses being put on people and generations. Eve was cursed with the pain of childbirth, man was cursed to labor by the sweat of his brow. In voodoo there is the same belief in curses. Is one ok to laugh at and the other not? Name calling and insults only makes one look stupid and petty.
Here is the link to the wikipedia entry for the voodoo witch doctor slave that was highly responsible for the uprising against the french in Haiti …
As you can see, the voodoo slave’s name was Dutty Boukman
Pat Robertson has made similar ridiculous comments over the years after other such events. Every time something bad happens in his life, and no doubt like all of us things do, does he then believe he has been ‘cursed by God’? The man is a flake and a charlatan.
holy sh*T! at first i was like “what a crazy”, then i watched the vid.. he’s got a point actually.. he didn’t even mention this, but the DR reportedly didn’t feel the quake at all. THINK ABOUT IT!
Don’t you make a deal with the devil in order to get something good? This is a bad thing, so . . .
Also, what about Job in the Bible? Job lost everything and had his entire life destroyed even though he had favor with God. I dont understand the logic Pat. I think you shoudl have thought it through a bit more before spouting off. Paul was shipwrecked, stoned, beaten, whipped, bitten by snakes, imprisoned, went without food, and was put in danger many times. All this because God said that Paul would suffer for HIS name.
My point is that bad things in life are not necessarily a result of our direct transgressions, but rather a result of this whole world turning it’s back on God. Adam sinned, and now we pay for it. Sometimes good things happen to bad people, but no one ever complaines about that – as if they’re all owed a perfect life free of any worry or pain.
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven
Matthew 19:24
“You know, Napoleon III or whatever…” “And the Devil said, ‘OK, it’s a deal’” “True story.” WOW. This doddering old fool gets to just say WHATEVER the heck runs across his feeble pea-brain AND he makes millions of dollars doing it! And you just know there are millions of people sitting at home who hear garbage like that and BELIEVE IT!
3 points:
1- Christian missionaries died in this same earth quake.
2- Pat, Pat, Pat, please don’t identify yourself as anything I identify with (Christian, conservative or republican). You give all three a bad name.
3- God can show his miracles in these situations; we can either take part in it, watch it or condemn it. WWJD?
Oops. I was wrong.
There is a God.
christians like and others a bad name, i’am glad you speak with
God. i just wish you so called christians would learn what really is in the bible and learn.
Both New Orleans and now Haiti were destroyed because of the predominant practice of witchcraft and
voodoo. Old Testament Commandment Number 1: “You shall have no other gods before Me.”
And He means it too.
Pat makes an intruiging point. ONE ISLAND. Yet only ONE side was smashed with a massive earthquake, and the other side was TOTALLY UNTOUCHED. The side that is faithful to Christ was pared, and the side who practices 17 types of Voodoo, has Satanic temples and shrines is turned to dust. One Island, half in prosperity, well-educated, solid middle class, which produces perhaps a dozen future Hall of Fame baseball players a year. The other side, poorer than dirt, illiterate, hopeless international welfare cases.
You can slam Pat all you want, but you wont find a more instructive test case on the planet. ONE ISLAND, half blessed by God, half cursed.
So Pat, what does this tell you?
“The head of the U.N. peacekeeping mission was missing and the Roman Catholic archbishop of Port-au-Prince was dead.
“The cathedral, the archbishop’s office, all the big churches, the seminaries have been reduced to rubble,” Archbishop Bernardito Auza, the apostolic envoy to Haiti, told the Vatican news agency FIDES”
Of all the things the man could have said, that was the least helpful. When there is no controversy why do old fools like Pat Robertson and Jimmy Carter always grab a microphone and say something mean, insensitive, and/or downright stupid?
*VOODOO STORY**** **TRUE VOODOO STORY*** My friend is sales manager for a large fancy hotel in Hawaii. He traveled to a large sales conference in New Orleans. The hot shot motivational speaker at the conf. bragged to him after a meeting on Bourbon Street how he gets his power over people from a Haitian voodoo lady and showed him her office and revealed that he often puts voodoo curses on people. My Christian friend said “may all your curses return to you a hundred fold.” After returning to Hawaii, he regretably had to call the movitivation speaker for something. The secretary answered “haven’t you heard…….he’s dead…..he just suddenly died”
By most of these Christian hating pro-Haitian voodoo comments here (supposedly from a conservative site), America may be doomed
Typical Republican response. And they wonder why many Americans fear their part in the power structure. These prudish Republican bible thumpers are relics of Jim Crow.
Hey, libtard DeFace. Jim Crow laws were enacted by the racist Dem party. You know, guys like “a couple years ago, he’d be bringing us coffee” -Bill Clinton, Sen. Robert KKK klegle Byrd & Harry Reid. I see yer publik ejukayshun wurked rilly wel 4 u.
If the leaders of Haiti made some pact years ago, which not one person on this site knows if is true or not, then yeah, the babies born yesterday WOULD fall under that pact.
You Godless heathens will either destroy the world, or be destroyed………………soon.
Pat Robertson is guided by Sola Scriptura principles (Bible only, nothing else) and is blinded to the true historical doctrines AND facts of the early Christian Church founded on earth by Christ through Peter the Apostle (i.e. Matthew 16:18). He probably does not realize that Peter is mentioned more times than all the other Apostles combined in the New Testament (I wonder why that may be?) AND that Peter is always mentioned FIRST in a sentence where the names of other Apostles are mentioned (again, why is Peter mentioned first?). Pat follows the doctrines of your typical strip center mall-type Protestant church found on every other block in the United States. After Peter died, the keys of the kingdom he possessed were passed to another and then to another and then to another as Christ wanted it to be done. Pat is not at the end of that 2000-year-old list started by Peter. He is a Christian but does not fully understand the true doctrine and history of the beginning Christian Church which still exists today outside of the bounds of United States strip-mall 700-Club Protestantism.
In 1973, the United States of America made a NATIONAL PACT WITH SATAN. Since that NATIONAL PACT was consummated, over 50,000 human sacrifices have been made. As of January 13, 2010, Haiti has never made the same NATIONAL PACT that the USA made in 1973. God is coming for the United States unless that 1973 NATIONAL PACT WITH SATAN is broken. But Pat will probably have already died by then leaving his descendants to suffer His wrath.
What the hell???? Where does Pat Robertson get his information about this “Pact with the Devil”? I’ve read a lot of world history and I think I’ve somehow missed the whole “Hatti Devil Pact” thing.
Pat Robertson is just another media whore. He knows saying crazy stuff like this will get his mug on national media. Either that or the man’s cheese slid off his cracker sometime back.
PAT ROBERTSON IS A RACIST AND STUPID.
HE IS EXPOSING REPUBLICANS AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES FOR WHO THEY REALLY ARE: SIMPLETONS THAT ARE HAPPY TO SEE ANYONE THAT IS NOT LIKE THEM DIE AND GO TO HELL.
THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE GEOGRAPHY OF YOUR BIRTH AND THE RELIGION OF YOUR PARENTS DETERMINS YOUR ELLIGABILITY FOR THE GATES OF HEAVEN.
Personally, I am convinced that all republicans are stupid or at the very least high! Religion is the opium of the people. Most Democrats are smart enough not to smoke it!!!!!
So I’ve heard again, “if he were a loving god….”
If in fact Haiti “made a deal with the devil”, perhaps they are paying for it.
Would a cry go up if an Imam made a similar statement about turning against Allah? would he be considered a fool….no, only a christian, and in particular a nationally known christian.
Do I agree with everything Pat Robertson has said over time…certainly not. Do I agree with him now?
Does it matter? If I said yes then I would be one of those horrible christians…not entitled to an opinion, I assume, based on historical fact (from my point of view).
If I disagree….would devout followers of Pat Robertson or the hard-core right wing christians castigate me as well?
It is so easy to criticize others on subject matter you know nothing about. There is a Biblical Proverb that says “Even a fool is esteemed wise when he is quiet”. Some people speak and remove all doubt. Read your Bible and you will understand. Pat Robertsons disaster ministry Operation Blessing is on the ground helping in Haiti. What are you critics doing to help the people of Haiti?
Robertson is the embarrassment that keeps on giving. It’s bad enough that he has no knowledge of history; it’s worse when he imparts what he only imagines as history to his unfortunate followers. If he is not going to keep such foolishness to himself, then he merits all the mockery headed his way.
As a Christian and a Republican, I say this: Rev. Robertson, retire and be silent.
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Don’t so easily dismiss Pat as a nut case just because you don’t want to believe it….
Pat didn’t make this story up. That he believes it to be true is strange.
The leader of Haiti’s revolution did indeed claim that he made a deal with
the devil. Look it up.
We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. Hope and Change. He is “THE ONE”
Remeber Psalm 109? The assassinate Obama prayer… I think we need to say it for old Pat:
“For wicked and deceitful men
have opened their mouths against me;
they have spoken against me with lying tongues.”
No wonder the far left hates the right. I’m a stone cold conservative but this guy makes it embarrassing for all Conservatives and Christians. Close your stink hole you charlatan!
So BDDD, you are saying that swearing an oath is a pact with the devil? So, all Monks and servantt of God are servants of the devil? And all the citizens of every country in the world who swear allegiance to their flags and country serve the devil? It all comes down to a prejudice against the practice of a religion that is not in line with Christianity. Catholics pray to Saints every day, are they ALL serving the devil? Some would say…
just wondering…you asked about the Dominican Republic and why they are so much more fortunate than Haiti? The reason is that when the Spanish and French controlled that portion of the island they exploited its vast natural resources for profit. The slaves, when they took control of Haiti did not know how to manage the plantations and keep the soil fertile so they laid waste to the land due to poor management of crops. Also, the war took its toll on the forestry and fertile soil as well. Thirdly, since Haiti has not industrialized properly, they still rely on wood burning as a primary source of energy. Couple that with an average population growth for a nation of millions at 2.3 percent and you have a recipe for rapid deforestation and a resultant desertification (unusable land) opposed to the Dominican Republic that has not had to deal with such a devastating past.
He also said gays caused 9/11 (God was upset with NYC) and a hurricane that hit Orlando (punishment for Gay day at Disney). What a nut job. No wonder the religious conservatives are looked upon as simpletons.
Oh, and it was Napoleon in power during the haitian slave revolt, not Napoleon the Third. He should get his history straight.
all you “christians” out there-are you reading God’s Word or do you
just like the part that sais you are loved? Forget all the other stuff right?
Pat is right, it’s called a generational curse.
God is coming soon
What a moron.
Of course, buried in legal terms and in very small letters , the earthquake provision was largely overlooked by the early haitians.
That Devil, such a savvy negotiator.
I’m a Christian and I have problems with people assuming to know the mind of God. Bad things also happen to good people but God gives us the grace to go through it. HE also uses a situation like this to bring people together. Look at all the nations that are willing to help the Haitians! We’re forgetting our politics and working with human tragedy. We did the same when the Tsunami his Indonesia and we’ll do it again.
But the good Reverand needs to stop pretending God is talking to him. He makes the rest of us look bad.
Darkness was not created….is it simply the absence of light.
Evil and suffering was not created by a loving God…..it is simply the absence of that loving God. “Man” was given free will. That is, you can choose to accept and love God… or not. A long, long, long time ago, man chose to disobey and turn from God. Thus, sin and evil entered the world. There is only one way out…. Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the LIGHT”. He is the only way to move out of darkness. There are good people who suffer. Many who live in Haiti. There are many good people around the world who suffer…not because of evil from their own doing, but from the sin that is prevalent in the world. “Mankind” made the choice to turn from God…but each of us, as individuals, have a choice to make….either continue walking in darkness….or turn to the Light, Jesus, who was the only perfect human being…..sacrificed for the sin of Mankind. Make your choice today!
Hasn’t this apparently doddering hate-mongerer kicked the bucket yet. His venomous rhetoric is just the kind of devisive blabbering that contributes to making the world a much worse place. Hateful, spiteful
commentary on such a tragedy is absolutely shocking and out-of-place. In the opinion of the observer, when this hard-hearted probable satanist croaks, he’s in for a hot surprise. “Judge not lest ye be judged.” No wonder the world hates America. This guy lives here.
This is a prime example of exactly WHY Christians are hated throughout the world. It’s no wonder that people automatically cringe when a “Born-Again” comes near them – they know they’re going to get hit with condemnation and told that unless they follow some nebulous doctrine that their denomination made up, that they’re going to go to hell!! I am an ordained minister, licensed in my state to do marriages and so forth, I’ve pastored several churches over the period of about thirty years, and I’ve seen it all. Finally, after being nauseated for the last time from crap just like THIS, I chucked it all. I love God, I have a relationship with God, I think Jesus was real, but I don’t want to be associated with ANYTHING bearing the label of “Christian”. I am Jewish by birth, but I believe that Yeshua (His REAL name!) actually IS the Messiah; however, the “Christians” have alienated the Jewish people with their nonsense so much that it is almost impossible to get a Jew to listen to them. This kind of stuff from Pat Robertson – coupled with the Swaggarts and Bakkers and all the hypocrisy that Christians display to the world – only serves to mar the image of Yeshua all the more. And please… save all your comments about me being “backslidden” and heading for hell. I love Yeshua with all my heart. It’s just His “fan club” that I can’t stand.
My conclusion for now on this story is that Pat Robertson has a fair amount of validity in regards to the story, the extreme voodoo traditions in Haiti, the fact that the uprising did indeed occur after voodoo rituals making pacts if not with satan then at least with “voodoo spirits” by a popular voodoo witchdoctor and slave by the name of Dutty Boukman.
Pat Robertson, I believe, is a bit insensitive about how he presents certain ideas, as I believe he kind of blew it both here and on a number of occasions.
I also see that the leftists on this board are being their typical brain-dead anti-christian selves showing substantially more insensitivity and lack of intellect than Robertson himself.
One is also wise to conclude that it is true that Haiti has some substantial amount of backwards ways of thinking and steep involvement even today in voodoo and other backwards traditions that certainly lead to their own self made cursing of their own backwards communities.
I’m a conservative and a Christian.
I’ve never known *anyone* who watches this guy or listens to him. (And I know a lot of American evangelicals.)
Who is his audience? Who puts him on air? Now *that’s* something worth investigating.
He’s an odd bird.
And, unfortunately, he has just provided ammunition to a vocal and rabidly aggressive secularist sub-set that wants to ridicule, demonize, and marginalize all theistic thought.
So, why is the Dominican Republic prosperous and Haiti a Detroit look alike?
Pat’s right.
http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles_ca/2004-2-Haiti_and_Satan.htm
The Dominican Republic is “prosperous”? GDP per capita is $8,000. It is much better than Haiti’s which is $1,300 but hardly prosperous. May be Pat was thinking of his golfing buddies at Casa de Campo or Punta Cana who fly into and out of private airports and see nothing of the country.
If you people would read your Bible you would know what he is talking about. Read,READ! To decern the things of God and to understand where this man is coming from.
It actually is historically true that Haitians made a pact with the devil to free themselves from the French.
From Daily Kos a year ago (1/12/09):
This former French colony overthrew their French slave owners through the only successful slave uprising in modern history and the nation of Haiti was born. While the revolution against slavery was commendable, the manner in which it was achieved was deplorable.
On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. The founding fathers and others present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual with hundreds of slaves drinking the sacrificial pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
You may not think that that Haitans’ pact with Satan has anything to do with the misery and squalor under which they have lived all these years, but it certainly didn’t help.
While I am not a Pat Robertson fan…it is interesting to note that I just saw a statistic today that stated 50% or greater of the population of Haiti practices VooDoo! You really couldn’t call that “Christianity”. I’m not sure that practicing VooDoo means that you’ve made a pact with the devil…but it would seem pretty darn close! I mean, honestly people, the more God is pushed away, the more he will remove His blessing. It’s happening with lightning speed here in the US…I think it would be safe to expect the same thing to be happening elsewhere.
If disasters happen to bad people who make pacts with the devil, by that logic, bad things NEVER happen to good people, including the Savior, Jesus Christ. Wrong! Bad and good things happen to all of God’s children, including the Haitians. How we respond to help the poor and needy is what we will be judged. I guess God will judge Pat with same judgment he passes on the Haitian.
Don’t mind this guy. I forgot to include the average amount of brain cells in him before he was born.
So, The Dominican Republic, part of the same island, wasn’t touched? Robertson is correct that the Haitians aligned with the Devil to help them get the French out. God, by Covenant, won’t protect those who turn their backs on Him.
Doesn’t Pat recall the Scriptures where the angels were not going to destroy Sodom and Gommorah even if just a few righteous people were there and how they had to get out first? There were and are many more righteous people in Haiti when the quake struck. My wife and I have supported a Christian girl from Haiti, her name is Dorine, through the Christian ministry called Compassion International. Please pray for Dorine and her family. May God have mercy on Pat for, again, not rightly dividing the word of knowledge of the Truth from the Bible before such a large and often vulnerable audience. Please, Pat, this happens from you just too often. Please step down. I pray you will. And Pat, how about going to Haiti asap to offer any physical help you can?
I have been to Haiti and can corroborate that there is an evil there unlike anything I’ve found anywhere else in the world. Something just is wrong about the place that is related to its values and beliefs. It’s palpable in the air. And I’m not kidding. God help the people of Haiti.
If Haiti has signed a pact with the Devil, Mr. Robertson and his pathethic defenders, what few there are, above, have signed a pact with ignorance. What kind of “god” randomly destroys innocent people because perhaps their neighbors believe, ignorantly,in Voodoo? He, and they, shame the Gospel of Christ.
Douchebag.
God has northing to do with earthquakes. Haiti is on a fault zone, Hello??? That means earthquakes happen there. Remember the Monserrat Volcanoe. Where are volcanoes? Always near earthquake zones. This was bound to happen sooner or later and it is really sad that precautions were not taken to prevent this horrible tragedy. The poorest will always suffer the most because they are ill prepared for natural disasters. Saying they made a pact with the devil, voodoo etc… just shows how ignorant people are and statements like Mr. Robertson’s are just sickening.
Just because someone isn’t impressed by the concept of God(s) it doesn’t mean they hate the believers. Most they fell sorry for them. And none believers can do a lot of good without have to lay the blame on some God or fallen angel. And just because people wrote books about talking to God(s) many many years ago when they didn’t even understand what air water and fire were, much less volcanos and Earthquakes, and the ‘firmament’, doesn’t make such stories true. It just shows how ignorant people were a long time ago. Why in the world does a God make none believers in the first place? All such an entity would have to do is show up in ‘person’ to convert us all. Then make a rock so big that even a God can’t pick it up. I guess burning witches is a good thing because the Bible says so. This still happens to this day by the believers. Wow, I am so impressed with the knowledge people have to be able to detect a witch. Move to a cave and live like they did thousands of years ago when this God idea started. Or get a brain that works and live in the present.
As to Don Davis, you seem like a bit of a bigot and intolerant yourself and you could have at least did some research as I did on Haiti to find out that there is a great deal of truth in the idea that Haiti has cursed themselves with backwards practices steeped heavily in voodoo and other backwards traditions. Their economy sucks horribly based largely on their own backwards traditions, again, heavily tied to voodoo which their brought with them from Africa.
Haiti is cursed. The Black people brought out of Africa who became Christian and who accepted the rule of god’s people have become the wealthiest blacks in the world. Those who embraced Satanism, Witchcraft and Voodoo have rejected the teachings of the White race and our god, they have been cursed in accordance with the Word of God (the New Testament of the Bible).
God is withdrawing protection from America as we continue to embrace or celebrate feminism, abortion, homosexual lifestyles, mis-cegenation, and other un-godly things which have always destroyed nations.
The Haitian earthquake (and the death of everyone in the U.N. Headquarters) should serve as a warning to the United States, where the Obama Administration is making “Satanic pacts” with the United Nations and others:
- Letting UN laws supplant U.S. laws
- Mandating Abortions in Government Health Care
- Forbidding the practice of Christianity in public places (while allowing every other religion)
- Promoting homosexuality in government-run schools
- Turning America into a Socialist country (a precursor to forcing America to be subjected to communism)
The liberals today are arrogant and prideful in their hatred of what is right or good.
IF Pat Robertson is right, then San Francisco, CA or Hollywood, CA may be the next “Sodom” or “Gomorrah” cities destroyed by a massive “natural disaster”.
I thought Pat Robertson was dead and burning in hell already. If he’s not, he will be after these incredibly un-Christian and inhumane comments towards this disaster in Haiti. The Haitians are good and decent people, the same as everybody else. The ones I’ve met are hard working and really good people. And I’m a white American. They don’t deserve any nastiness from Robertson or Limbaugh or any of these garbage dwellers. I know the rest of America will try to help Haiti, because we’re a good people and that’s what we do.
OK, come on people .. just because Port Au Prince has been destroyed and The Dominican Republic didn’t has NOTHING to do with God picking the Haitians out to destroy. The earthquake was centered practically right beneath Port Au Prince. Think of it this way, San Francisco received a large amount of destruction from a 6.8 quake a few years back, but Los Angeles didn’t feel a thing. Same idea here, has nothing to do with God punishing them. Santo Domingo (the capitol of The Dominican Republic) could just as easily have a massive quake hit them in the future because they are located on a very active fault line that is similar to the same one that causes the earthquakes in California.
he is right you morons
I am reading these comments. Did any of you actually listen to what he said? I am not saying I agree or disagree, but clearly you are reacting with emotion and not on the facts as clearly stated. If you look at the Dominican Republic and they are flourishing on the very same island, subject to the very same conditions, you have to question why would they suffer such devastation and the Dominican Republic didn’t. Statistically 80% of the Haitians are supposedly Catholic, but 50%+ practice voodoo. Now if that isn’t from the devil I don’t what to say to your ignorance.
Please people just pay attention to facts and stop the ignorance…
We can see OUR FUTURE in Haiti. Thanks to the great work being done at http://www.Indoctrinate-U.com
Just to let you know I am a tolerant liberal. As for helping the Haitians, I seriously doubt people on my side will. I know Harry Reid won’t-after all they’re dark skinned and speak with negro dialogs, Bill Clinton only will because they need to bring him his coffee, and you can definitely rule out W-VA Sen.(and former Grand Wizard of the KKK who probably hung several dark skinned people in his day) Robert Byrd. But I’m sure ALL the liberal bloggers above who hate Pat Robertson will put down their PSP’s, hip-hop filled iPods, weed and booze and donate generously from their welfare checks to people in the third world.
Pat Robertson’s version of reality is hateful. He sees the poor (mostly Catholic) people of color and writes them off… I’m Conservative, Catholic, and a Republican and Pat and his people do not represent me or any one who are Christians… It is time for his followers to find another shepherd…
“The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it” ~ Flannery O’Connor
Whatever…
This a-hole gives all Christian Americans a bad name, the same way radical Islamists, do to normal Muslims. He is a complete buffoon.
Mr. Robertson …….. Judgement begins first in the house of God! Perhaps you better take a good hard look and prayerfully petition on behalf of apostate western christianity, what some call the visible church, of which you Sir are a member.
Mat 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
You do err, not knowing the Scriptures. Satan came to kill, steal, and destroy. You are only protected by God’s hand from satan IF you accept God and obey His commandments. The Bible says if you belong to God you will be blessed. If you don’t belong to God you will be under a curse and at the mercy of Satan. And believe me he has no mercy. You may not believe, but the does not make God’s Word any less true. Pat Robertson is correct, although this may not be the time to say it.
Incredible, all you morons who have left comments here attacking a respected grounded individual Pat Robertson,who for so may years has been known for helping the world! Its sad to see your ignorance in writing. my advice to you is, GET A LIFE! before you open your angry stressful little mouth, Go to the source! learn the history!especially if you plan on making a comment before running your mouth with nothing smart to say but insults and curses! You guys are truly the definition of STUPID MORONS!
There is evil in the world and it wears Pat Robertson’s visage. Over 50,000 people die of heart attacks in the US every year. Please let him be among this years statistics.
Patis a good man but this is utterly just stupid to say.
even if was remotely true, now is not the time..
Sheesh.. thousands of people have lost loves ones…
Please, be quiet and offer help to these people
Patis a good man but this is utterly just stupid to say.
even if was remotely true, now is not the time..
Sheesh.. thousands of people have lost loves ones…
Please, be quiet and offer help to these people
LOL. that Old MAN is a nut! If he read his history well, who you think put them in that place in the first place. The White men, doesnt matter Spanish or French, but they made them slaves brought from Africa. Im sure his ancestry has to do with that, and now he is telling us that the devil is who they made a pact with. WHITE RICH MEN = THE DEVIL! What a HIPOCRITE! and these hipocrites, keep hiding behind the word of a lord. BLASPHEMY!!!
What did Pat say that was offensive? The blind do not see right and wrong, they just attack the truths of God… The hatred for gods people is evident. Pat was simply stating what took place in the history of that country. This does not undermine his compassion and love for turning people to Christ and God. He has probably helped more people in that country than most of you have met in your life time.
The ***NORTHRIDGE EARTHQUAKE*** years ago in the LA area had an epicenter in the heart of the smvt industry. I met and worked for a gir1 who left there. She said her and others in the industry felt it really was an act of God. She also told me that someone in the smvt industry there showed her a snvff film wich really messed up her head…to scare young women, brainwash them, make them feel there is no God or that Satan/Lucifer if more powerful, etc.
In another quake in India that killed many years ago….it happened in the middle of a huge pagan Hindu ceremony
Before I write the following statement I know there are going to be some shocked people reading this but here goes, there is no GOD, none, nada. But there is science. There is rational thought. There is logic.
As a devout, bible-believing, evangelical Christian pastor…
“Pat, sit down and BE QUIET. You are not helping. What’s the matter with you?”
Ahem, JHC, the Christian belief is that God creates people, animals, etc, but that he does not force them to believe truth. Your simplistic idea that God can just show up and convince people of the TRUTH of all things is childish to say the least. Why is it that we can have events that happen on earth even today with today’s technology and still have groups of people with opposite conclusions about what actually happened and why. The gospel of Christ is much more than believing whether or not there is a superior intelligence in existence. If all you understand about religion is that then you are a sad little child in understanding and your are immature in your way of thinking.
From the Library of Congress: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ht0017)
a little voodoo was involved in the fight for liberty.
I’m not sure why everyone is dumping on Pat Robertson — either they didn’t watch the clip, they really closet Christian-haters, or they’re just plain stupid. All the man did was point out something that is relevant to the subject of his television program (which, for the clueless wonders posting comments, is religious) that he believes to be a fact. I can’t comment on whether or not it’s the truth, but it didn’t seem to me like he was condemning anyone at all. In fact, he sounded sincerely concerned, asked for prayers, and, in case all of you whining about “asking for money” — there’s a darned image-over at the bottom of the screen soliciting donations.
Most of those being critical are oblivious of the reality of the clip, even those claiming to be “conservative”
I think what Pat is saying is that we are to love, help, and pray for these people; and that sin and rebellion against God brings judgment. There was once this city called sodom, had lots of people who rebelled against God, and it ended up in an ash heap too, but we are still to help them and show the love of Jesus.
Next thing you know he’ll be calling for us to assassinate a foreign leader or fight another war by killing infidels for the synagogue of Satan.
Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior give us strength against this evil of mankind.
What a moron!!
There is no god. Haiti is poor because they’ve been ruled by despots. Haiti suffered an earthquake because of plate tectonics. Pat Robertson is just an old mystic who exploits the gullible for money.
Is it a coincidence the two western hemisphere centers of Voodooo and witchcraft were annielated by natural diasters?
all of you religious nutbags need to go into the closet and pray.
in other words STFU.
your scripture is a violent, murderous, bigoted, hateful mandate.
the few” love thy neighbor” quotes cannot make up for this truth.
talk about building your house on sand…
God’s reason for allowing this isn’t clear, but the the Haitian peoples need for help is, and that’s really all that matters. As St. Teresa of Avila said, “Christ has no hands but ours.”
To John, who has concluded that there is not possibility in science to have an extremely intelligent being exist somewhere in the universe, based on his limited understanding of what is and is not possible … DUMBASS.
The fact that we understand Plate Tectonics, doesn’t mean that God doesn’t use weather and geological means to remind us to remember Him. The fact that people reject God more and more does not mean that the Bible is not true. As we advance, day-by-day to more scientifically informed, we will understand more of the destructive powers of “Nature”. God is in charge. If the people are wicked, God will remind them of his creations, even if we don’t believe it is Him. The children born yesterday, obviously do not have a chance. Such was the case with the people at the time of Noah and the people in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah (sp?).
We must be reminded that there are Christians on the left and the right who believe in God, the Bible, and in Justice. Pat recognizes people’s need to repent. Calling him a fool doesn’t change it any more than the people of Jeremiah or many of the other ancient prophets. (That is not to say Pat is a prophet; only that he recognizes that we should repent.)
It also doesn’t mean we should sit on our hands and say, “See, Haiti, I told you so.” Now is the time that we should do what is in our power, either financially or physically, to aid them. I hope they turn more to God; I hope we all do. We are not immune to the same type of destructive power.
And when we are “reminded”, those who reject God will say, “See right-wing crazies. I guess God is punishing us too, right?”
Right.
What a moron. Remember this is the supposed religious man that called for the assassination of Hugo Chavez. God needs to call this man home already.
I saw a headline that the presidential palace was desroyed in the quake. It was made of the finest scrap tin sheets and cardboard on the island! LOL Haiti is a s*#t hole. Only good for in a few spots for white wealthy tourists. Let it sink.
Martin G’s comment is awesome…I’ll repeat it here:
It actually is historically true that Haitians made a pact with the devil to free themselves from the French.
From Daily Kos a year ago (1/12/09):
This former French colony overthrew their French slave owners through the only successful slave uprising in modern history and the nation of Haiti was born. While the revolution against slavery was commendable, the manner in which it was achieved was deplorable.
On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. The founding fathers and others present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual with hundreds of slaves drinking the sacrificial pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
You may not think that that Haitans’ pact with Satan has anything to do with the misery and squalor under which they have lived all these years, but it certainly didn’t help.
==Bad and good things happen to all of God’s children, including the Haitians.==
Not all are God’s children [John 1].
== How we respond to help the poor and needy is what we will be judged.==
Not necessarily true.
According to the Word of God, the first mission is to comfort them with the Word of God so they don’t faint.
== I guess God will judge Pat with same judgment he passes on the Haitian.==
Christ says that those who are born again are to “judge Righteous judgment” — that is, according to the Word of God; and that’s what Robertson has done.
Where Jesus, in Matthew 7:1, says, “Judge not,” is is talking to the UNRIGHTEOUS, not the Righteous in Him, as you can read in the following verses in that chapter and in Romans 2:1, 3. Christ expects those who are born again to discern and judge according to the Word.
The only thing christians ever bring to the table is that their poop doesn’t stink. Ignore them.
Don’t the Haitian’s practice Voo-doo and stuff like that? If so, the Bible warns against such sorcery and its consequences. As Mr. Robertson said, these people need to be prayed for in order to break their pact with the devil, if they did indeed make one.
True story. Do some research.
And as a follow-on, I’m curious where the “outrage” is over the TSA secretary nominee lumping all Christians into white supremacist groups? Yeah, keep posting your feigned indignation, you liberals-masquerading-as-conservatives…
Cuckoo…cuckoo!
Have any of of you self-appointed,god-haters who are so caught up in your secular humanist fantasies that the Democrat-finance-controlled (for 60 year and running) education (indoctrination) system has bent over backwards to instill in you heard of Santeria?
bodhi, your extreme ignorance and your unfounded bigotry is a shining example of moronic uneducated leftist thinking or non-thinking as the case may be. Christian belief is far from violent. You with your head up your rear end need to do some reading before your drool next time. You make yourself look far more extreme and stupid than those that you oppose.
It’s really wonderful the way muslim countries have sprung to help. You can see muslims on every corner in Haiti wailing to alla and helping. The oil muslims are finally putting some of their oil money to good use saving Haitians. Yeah, and obama IS a natural born US citizen, bwarney fwrank is not elmer fudd, and nancy pelosi is a doting granny. Obama’s gonna do the only thing he’s good at: throw someone else’s money at Haiti.
I guess we should be thankful for people like him. Idiots like him & Rush Limbaugh turn more young people away from Christianity everyday. Hopefully in a century or so that religion will be dead. and people will actually help others out instead of the old “oops they made a deal with the devil, guess I’ll pray for them!” and think they’re helping.
Prayer: How to do nothing and think you’re still helping.
Wow there is hope for the world I’m glad to see that there are lots of people condeming these stupid fanatic remarks made by pat robinson. I don’t need to say anything the world has spoken and there is hope for all humankind. even the evangelicals have spoken. so as a man of african descent I applaud allof you have condemned these senseless insitive remarks by pat robinson. THERE IS HOPE for MANKIND
“Historians traditionally identify the catalyst to revolution as a particular Vodou ceremony in August 1791 performed at Bois Caïman by Dutty Boukman, a priest.[3]”
Citation is from Wikipedia and is the event to which Pat Robertson is referring. Nations, religions, companies, families, individuals who reject the one true God of the Bible and who embrace evil always enable Satan to reign and to rain down death and destruction eventually. The culture, the people and the environment…from Haiti to the Soviet-block countries to the Middle East to Africa to Harlem and South Central…the consequences of Godlessness are apparent to anyone with vision and a brain.
It’s time for Pat Robertson to keep his mouth SHUT.
Every time he opens it, the unbelievers ratchet up their attacks on us.
This was NOT the time to prove again that he is an idiot.
And why did that tsunami kill hundreds of thousands of people a few years back? Because all of those people made a pact with the devil, of course. Either that or “the lord works in mysterious ways”. See? The extreme, judgmental Christians like Pat Robertson have all the answers.
It was Napoleon I, not Napoleon III. The Haitians won the war against the French not because of a pact with the (fill in your favorite bogeyman) but because they had a brilliant commander, Toussaint l’Ouverture.
Bohdi, clearly you have not read the Gospels or the book of Romans. Read them, educate yourself and then comment on how “hateful” and “bigoted” the Bible is. Pat Robertson does not speak for me and he certainly is not the mouth piece of God so take his comments for what they are, not very wise.
It sounds like the Reverend Robertson needs to be prayed for. He has lost his Christianity, likely due to needing to get attention.
Perhaps he should retire to a life of contemplation about the true meaning of Christian charity, instead of preaching a message of vitriol and hatred.
They did make a pact with the devil. Haiti has always been hell. Look at the voodoo, AIDS, despotism, Baby Doc.
Haiti is hell. God is punishing them.
I love how all you God-fearing A-holes have the nerve to presume to know the mind of God and attribute this to His supposed (and, frankly, historically pointless) displeasure with Haiti. That’s so enormously stupid it’s infuriating. I also love that Pat forgot one of Jesus’ most basic tenets: “Judge not lest you yourself be judged.” Only a self-righteous, ignorant, egotistical d-bag would use the suffering of millions as an opportunity to get publicity. And to do so in the name of God is just reprehensible… and I’m sure some of you are opening your wallets to donate money to his pension right now.
Shame on him, and I’ll pray for you.
Someone in this group of comments said there are alot of Christians in the buried in the rubble, what about them? Well if they are true Christians their last breath on earth will be their first breath in heaven. Where are you critics headed? Jesus said there is a wide road away, many will flee, there is a narrow to Him, few will follow.
Know Jesus, Know Peace – no Jesus,no peace. God Bless all you critics!
Don’t take what some media type like Pat Robertson says as truth, truth is what Jesus Christ said, for example: Matthew 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Jesus half-Brother James stated plainly in James 2:26 “As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.” Mr. Robertson needs to avoid throwing stumbling blocks and truly live out the service centric call of the Christian faith. Be the merciful hands and feet of Christ to a dark, dying world.
JandJ,
Then wouldn’t the pact be over by now? So the earthquake has nothing to do with Satan even if you believe this nonsense.
First there was voodoo in New Orleans that caused the cleansing by Katrina.
Second there was voodoo in Haiti that caused this earthquake.
And next, what? San Francisco will fall into the sea beacause they are considered the modern day Sodom and Gomorah. And their satanic leader is Pelosi.
Come on, is this a stretch or what?
Have any of of you self-appointed,god-hating geniuses who are so caught up in your secular humanist fantasies that the Democrat-finance-controlled (for 60 year and running) education (indoctrination) system has bent over backwards to instill in you ever heard of Santeria? That having been said, I’m not all that crazy about the man but, if you’re going to one-up him, in some significant way, offer your money and labor in a time and a place where he probably already has offered his.
Interesting relevant article turned up by a simple Google search:
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Pats got it right…They gotta turn from their earthly ways, renounce the devil and turn to the Lord for forgiveness and salvation. The minute they do that, you will see their half of the island prosper in short order, no doubt about it!
I guess you guys didn’t hear him…. he said we must get down there right now and help them…. there is nothing wrong with pointing out that they have been under a curse for generations… It’s true, as anyone with eyes can see, that is not the issue at hand, but it is a truth that needs to be dealt with in the long term.
Again, you Christian haters seem much less informed on the facts and much more hate-filled and bigoted than Robertson.
Robertson did go on to say that the people of Haiti should still be helped with resources etc.
And I myself think that Robertson can come up with better ways to word certain things.
However, after actually doing some research, Haiti does have some serious self made problems due to their relationship with voodoo and other backwards practices and the story about the pact with the devil has a lot of validity to it. Do some research on voodoo witchdoctor slave Dutty Boukman.
Pat… asking for DONATIONS through his organization so he can SUCK of 95% for his fatass ministry and pass along the remaining 5% to the people in Haiti. Burn Patty Burn!
how does he think he’s Christian? that’s what gets me about him and his ilk. I just don’t get it. don’t they read the bible?
Hi, I’m God, and I just porked Haiti where the sun don’t shine.
I’m going to have a cigarette now and enjoy all the carnage I caused.
See ya.
==Idiots like him & Rush Limbaugh turn more young people away from Christianity everyday. ==
They are not responsible for the choice those people make. God will not ask, “Who ‘made’ you do that?” given that no one can “make” you do anything.
If we have so much control over minds, why didn’t they listen to us the last presidential election?
Wow… way to give the Christianity bashers a whole stockpile of ammunition to use. What a dumb statement.
Don R…very good show ol’ chap. However, the voodoo inspired rebellion failed. It might have inspired the revolution, but it was not the sole reason for its success.
For the rest of you…saying voodoo is satanic is like saying that all religions that, at one point or another, used sacrifice as a method of worship and prayer are satanic. Look at your own religion in the mirror before judging another.
read this article for your education on this claim that Mr. Robertson makes. Get Educated! http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Some of you people need to listen to yourselves. Your comments are what is rubbish here not necessarily what Pat said. It is a fact of Bible truth that God judges nations. Read it for yourselves. You may not like to hear that there is a God in heaven who judges and will judge the living and the dead but that’s the way it is if you are going to call yourself Christian at all.
If you want to deny what the Bible says by all means…it’s your choice. But you would be a fool to utterly discount it as a good for nothing fairy tale.
Read it for yourselves! Stop whining, read the Bible, and ask yourselves some tough questions. As to whether or not there might be some truth to what Pat pointed to. That God judges and that our sins have consequences to the third and fourth generation of our descendants.
Mocking does not promote wisdom.
Carlos
According to the book of Job in the Bible…Satan has the power to cause what appears to be natural disasters. Perhaps, like in Job, God is simply permitting what Satan desires/causes, but only a small percentage of the time.
Martin G’s comment is awesome…I’ll repeat it here:
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It actually is historically true that Haitians made a pact with the devil to free themselves from the French.
From Daily Kos a year ago (1/12/09):
This former French colony overthrew their French slave owners through the only successful slave uprising in modern history and the nation of Haiti was born. While the revolution against slavery was commendable, the manner in which it was achieved was deplorable.
On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. The founding fathers and others present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual with hundreds of slaves drinking the sacrificial pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.
You may not think that that Haitans’ pact with Satan has anything to do with the misery and squalor under which they have lived all these years, but it certainly didn’t help.
Voodoo was a very prominent aspect of Haitian revolutionaries. They believed that Voodoo would free them from the French.
Read “Haiti, History and the Gods” by Joan Dyan.
Also read here: http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/traditional/34486-haitians-hail-president-voodoo.html
Dont misread Pat. He did not say Haiti deserved this. He simply connected Haitian poverty and struggle with Voodooism. In contrast the country next door on the same island is doing well. If you don’t think there is a God or devil your ignorance is forgivable. But if you are a believer you should check the bible in Exodus 20:4
“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.”
Though there was a tower that fell on some people in Siloam that killed 18 people and Yhwh rebuked those who said it was His judgment that killed them and He cautioned them to repent or they would likewise perish, He, Yhwh the one True God Adonay, is the One who brought the tower down. He is the Elohim of grace, mercy, vengeance, judgment, wrath, justice and fury, and above all He is Holy.
The nation of Haiti was in years gone by dedicated to Lucifer, it is part of the nations historical records, and Pat is correct; and unless people in America repent and turn from their wicked ways, especially those claiming to know Christ Jesus, we too will be be in danger of His judgment now, in addition to the great judgment day to come when once we breathe our last breath on this earth.
For those of you that want to curse your Creator for this and are so arrogant as to question His right to do anything, bear in mind that the fate that awaits those that are apart from His Son will face an end that is infinitely worse than what these people are now facing in Haiti. An earthquake occurred. Could my Father have stopped it? Of course, but who are you son of man to question Yhwh of His ways, for He is so much higher than you, and His ways past finding out. Know this, not everyone is going to enter heaven, most will not, yet He will work in this situation to cause good in the lives of those that love Him and are the called according to His purposes. Perhaps this event will cause that island to repent and believe upon the Only One who can save them, and experience a time of peace and provision they have never known. And then perhaps 20-30 years from now, the Haitians would rejoice and actually be thankful this happened for through this rubble and death, came beauty and life.
As well, how can He display to the world His attributes of mercy, benevolence, compassion, and grace (as well as judgment) if not for working through events like this to display His love in the way He, through His children will pour out love, prayer, resources, and their very lives to help the Haitian people?
You ask how a good God could allow this to happen, and in doing so you make yourself out to be god and to sit in judgment of Him, which is blaspheme. God is good and in Him alone there is no darkness. How can you be pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-adultery, pro-fornication, pro-drunkeness, and above all, treat the sacrifice and blood of His Son as a common thing and refuse His gift of forgiveness and mercy in Christ, and yet think to sit in judgment of Him? Truly this is pride and wickedness personified.
Would you call that judge wicked and evil who sentenced a child murderer to the gas chamber? Yet you call your Creator Yhwh wicked for sentencing to death those who have done the same…
Is Haiti more wicked than we are? Absolutely not, and unless the people of the USA repent, believe upon Christ to obedience of His commands, and cry out to Yhwh in Christ so that perhaps He may hear our cries and heal our land, we too should expect nothing less than those evils that are in the process of coming upon us, all in the guise of safety, security, and fairness.
May Father use this moment in Haiti to the salvation of His elect in that place, and to the manifestation before the world His love, grace, compassion, mercy, sacrifice, sympathy, and power through His children that will come to their aid.
May Christ be True and every man a liar.
Jeffrey
Biblically speaking, if you speak the truth you will receive persecution…as clearly demonstrated by the mob of clowns commenting on this story. People either seem to miss the point that God is both just and compassionate, and will judge the nations violently when his long-suffering compassion comes to an end, or they don’t believe in a God at all because they suck up to some goofy unscientific fairytale like evolution that allows them to believe there will be no accountability for sin. Sadly there is a real hell that will be full of imps of this sort who insist on denial. But thankfully there stands a cross in history that makes a way to salvation for all who will come. There is a God, and he is love, and we should certainly show compassion on the people of Haiti. According to the historically, socially and scientifically accurate Bible, if disaster comes upon a city it has been brought by the Creator. This disaster may very well have been the only way God’s love could get through to a nation so steeped in Voodoo and darkness. Don’t think America doesn’t have hers coming. Pray for Haiti.
Amen Pat. Haiti has been cursed with Aids and all kinds of problems because they turned their back on GOD—-
Pat Robertson swore a pact with the devil. This hateful SOB never seems to shut the hell up. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that he was a closet lefty atheist trying to discredit Christianity.
What an evil man. This is a horrific tragedy and these people need compassion, love and help. Evangelical “Christians” who actually listen to this guy and believe what he says have lost their true Christian spirit and are blind. He is just looking for attention – it makes me sick. My prayers are with the suffering people of Haiti.
I don’t know which is worse: This, or the crazy global warming theorists…
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
They absolutely did swear their nation to Satan.
http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles_ca/2004-2-Haiti_and_Satan.htm
Thank goodness he has to guts to get up and say that.
Once you accept that there is no god, then you will finally view such events for what they are, and maybe you will take constructive action to mitigate the effects of such events in the future (it’s called learning, adapting, and evolving)
OR you could assume it was due to a displeased ghost in the sky, and pray harder next time. Or cut out the living hearts of captive people to feed to your god. Or fly a plane into a building. Or stone a woman to death. That’ll keep the earthquakes away!
Pat, as your brother in Christ, I urge you to SHUT UP.
I am so glad I watched the video before posting off the cuff. I would advise folks who are posting without actually listening to what he said to stop , listen and try and understand what it is he has said. On that note I shall research into this pact the Haitians made with the “devil” to rid there Island of the French.
My god wtf is wrong with the french, they suxor balls worthless ungreatful French. Wonder if they still want the USofA to get out and does that include all the dead soldiers that helped free their crap hole. Focus people and pay attention to the real news.
Andrew you should be strung up for spreading such a false story about Pat. you pile of crap
As a retired pastor and educational administrator I take strong exception to the comments of Pat Robertson. Men, women, boys, girls, babies, Americans, Christians, care givers, Christian agency personnel who have traveled for years to Haiti to help were also killed. Mr.
Robinson, who do your represent? A loving caring God who gives life or tourself as an ego centric exhibitionist who needs strong Biblical and ethical correction. You are wrong in making that type of a statement just to attract attention to yourself. When you make outlandish statements that alienate people from the church you to do a great disservice to the cause you falsely claim to advocate. Why not sell all you have and give it to these poor? That’s not my admonition those are Christ’s words.
You would be well served to apologize to the world for you words!
Dr. Alan Phillips, Sr.
Bloomington, IL
Fanatic Jihadi have nothing on hate-crazed “Fundamental” Christians – and here’s Pat Robertson stepping up again to illustrate that fact. Somewhere, in some dimension, Jesus and Mohammed are shaking their heads and wondering what will next be said or done in their names. Sad. And stupid.
Pat is 78 years old and was just telling the history of Haiti. Hello, Pat has an organization that is there right now doing relief. Maybe you should go instead of surfing the Internet. hypocrite.
I am really shocked by most of the comments, if anyone knows anything about Haiti, they are plagued, yes the government is very bad, it changes more than they change their underwear. There is much black magic in Haiti, the people suffer much under horrible oppression. My friend from Haiti, said the only time they were peaceful and prosperous was when the US occupied there. I do not know if this story is true, what I do know 1st hand is that the amount of voodoo is staggering in that country, and Christians there are praying the Psalms for protection everyday. And if anyone knows about sound it travels through space, and returns to effect the planet negatively or positively. Have any of you heard the sound of a voodoo ritual or a black magic ceremony? No, I do not think so, by the childish comments
So many may think Pat is dumb, or anyone who dares tell this story, but go live there a while and see 1st hand the devastation of their diet. Another unknown fact is Marx, Engles, Lenin were all Satan worshipers. When Russia opened up 10% of their writings held in vaults, this came out, the American media buried it. Of course, they sold out to the communists a long time ago.
But look at the devastation that came upon Russia and all oppressive governments. The people perish under evil kings.
People in this country/world are intensely naive when it comes to anything they can not see in their highly censored public schools and universities
The Bible says, Pure and lasting religion in the sight of God our Father means that we must care for orphans and widows in their troubles, and refuse to let the world corrupt us. James 1:27
Pat, this proves your folly. What a shame you are to the name of Christ. Jesus loves you but everyone else things you’re an asshole.
“Everywhere you go, from your television screen to the Internet, what you are most likely to find is a reference to a spiritual pact that the fathers of the nation supposedly made with the devil to help them win their freedom from France. As a result of that satanic alliance, as they put it, God has placed a curse on the country some time around its birth3, and that divine burden has made it virtually impossible for the vast majority of Haitians to live in peace and prosperity in their land. Surprising, right?
The satanic pact allegedly took place at Bois-Caïman near Cap-Haïtien on August 14, 1791 during a meeting organized by several slave leaders, under [Dutty] Boukman’s leadership, before launching what would become Haiti’s Independence War. This brutal period lasted 13 years until the last survivors of the French expeditionary forces, dispatched to Saint-Domingue with the sole purpose to re-establish slavery, were allowed by Dessalines to leave the island and return to Napoleon. Those who made it safely to France wrote and reported about the utmost bravery and supreme courage of Haiti’s indigenous army.”
As a born-again, evangelical Christian, allow me say the following:
With all due respect to Pat Robertson, HE DOES NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD!
Even if what he says is true (who knows, sounds like a stretch to me), he cannot tie THIS SPECIFIC catastrophe as a judgement from God! In fact, NO Christian can tie a specific natural act such as earthquake, flood, tsunami, etc to a DIRECT ACT of judgement from God!
We live in a ‘fallen’ created world. That not only includes mankind but creation as well. Therefore, there will always be hurricanes, floods, tornados, etc.
God chooses to judge when, where and how HE wants to! He doesn’t consult with Pat Robertson or anyone else. He didn’t tell Pat Robertson that this was a judgement from Him.
DOES God create natural disasters sometimes as punishment? How would you know? Did He tell you? Of course not!
Pat Robertson should stop speculating and call on all his listeners to simply pour out their prayers, time, money, talents, etc for all those who have been affected! Anything else simply brings mocking to Christians and the Christian faith!
I personally know of 8 men who are on their way to Haiti right now (using their vacation time) to help the Baptist Men’s organization with the relief effort!
Pray for those in Haiti!
I would like to apologize on behalf of all Christians. Pat Robertson has been out in left field for the past decade and I’m not sure if he knows any more what he’s truly saying. Maybe he should be committed.
I sure do love me some daily crazy and this takes care of the week
geez!! I consider myself a christian conservative and as such I need to say STFU you hate spewing pile of trash. You should be ashamed. You make humans look bad with such talk in a time of disaster. When as many as 500,000 people could have died in such a way geez. What a moron. from my point of view let me say this GOD DOES NOT MAKE BAD THINGS HAPPEN!!. He mourns with us when they do. He has given this planet the same exact freedoms that he has given all of us. We have the freedom to do what we want and that includes the murder of innocent children such as the children kidnapped and murdered by the sick and twisted pediphils. GOD DOES NOT MAKE BAD THINGS HAPPEN, he mourns with us when they do. PAT R… you’re an fu%$#n moron and most likely quite far from God. I’m ashamed to say I’ve watched your show. But NO MORE. Good day sir!
I am a devout Christian and love the Lord with all of my heart. I don’t think any of us have the exact answers to why these things happen. I only know that God is good and the Devil is bad. My prayer is for the innocent victims of this horrible tragedy in Haiti. I don’t care what religion you are, or what or who you worship…I only know that God wishes for us to love everyone and pray for them. We are all human beings, regardless of race or country or superstitions or whatever…I just wish we could all learn to love each other a little more.
I am just a nobody in this great big world but I feel sad because so many people seem so angry and so quick to blame. Let’s just focus on prayers and healing wishes for those in this awful tragedy….
Using a little logic here, when the French took over under, what Pat said Napolean III, my uneducated guess is that the Haitians probably FIRST asked God to get them out. Then, whey God did not respond obviously showing favoritism to the French, the Haitians had no choice but to turn to Satan. Could you blame them???
you should all learn some history about haiti before commenting. this fact is taught in their history books and re-confirmed yearly in a celebration. does everyone there worship satan, no. is everyone in the u.s. a christian, no. but nations have identities, unfortunately they chose theirs long ago.
read a book.
If you take the time to look it up you might understand where Pat came up with that statement.
It is widely believed that Boukman Dutty started the revolution. In a place called Bois Caiman (Gator Wood), in the north of Saint-Domingue, in a driving rainstorm, with slaves from all the neighboring plantations in attendance. A mountain of a man with a face as etched and chiseled as an African stone carving called out in a voice strong and clear, a Jamaican lilt detectable as he chanted. As vodou drums beat a hypnotic rhythm and worshipers supplicated and the vodou priestess led then in chanting, Boukman stuck a pig and drank its blood. Then, his voice roaring above the storm, he called upon the assembled slaves to rise up against their masters.
Right or wrong, I’m sure there are a lot of organized religions that believe voodoo practice is worshiping the devil. No where did Pat say they deserved devastation. To say such hateful things about the man says something about you.
Here comes all the atheist comments, first of all we should pray for the haitians and hope for a speedy recovery, and pray I mean pray to God Jesus, there is none other. It is amazing the other side of the island is untoched and thriving, makes you think a little. The bottom line haiti is a corrupt country, that have alot of pagan beliefs satan beliefs, you do the math. So america will help and pay for everything just like we always do. Something tells me haiti wasn’t under the good graces of the almighty God. As far as what robertson said actually is true just look at the huge satan practices voodoo pagan worship that has been going on for along time now. Don’t worry people america is going to get our to, with all this pagan atheist devil worship turning our back on God gays secular progressive liberalism moral decay etc. Oh yeah it is coming, some say it is already here with the obama admin and what they are doing to this country, just a matter of time, God help us all.
Greg P. not seeing a lot of people calling voodoo Satanic. Perhaps you need to improve on your reading skills. However, voodoo is certainly backwards thinking and involves various spirits that can supposedly help voodoo practitioners have certain people killed. So even though they may not worship satan directly it still involves some black magic ways of thinking.
You stay classy Pat.
Sometimes, the truth hurts, no matter how ugly it may sound. Pat doesn’t mince words, or facts.
Haiti has been a very “dark” place, with voodoo, witch doctors, etc. Christians need to adhere to the scriptual teachings of the Bible. Yes, our God is a loving God, but HATES sin, and makes it very clear, that sin brings consequences.
As a Christian, whose church sends missionaries to Haiti, I agree with Pat, because he speaks the truth. But, I pray that this horrible event may bring positive results, that more may turn their hearts from Satan, and embrace Jesus Christ.
WHAT A NUT JOB!
Pat…Pat..Pat
I am a christian and you are not only breaking my heart you are embarrasing me. Please, stop and just help. That would be a must stronger witness than giving your “take” on the History of Haiti and the poor souls suffering today in that country today.
Pats little side kick looks like she might be from Haiti herself or from the DR.
Wonder what was going through her poor little brain as Pat is rambling on ?
This is described in Vodou history in wikipedia:
The most historically important Vodou ceremony in Haitian history was the Bwa Kayiman or Bois Caïman ceremony of August 1791 that began the Haitian Revolution, in which the spirit Ezili Dantor possessed a priestess and received a black pig as an offering, and all those present pledged themselves to the fight for freedom. This ceremony ultimately resulted in the liberation of the Haitian people from French colonial rule in 1804, and the establishment of the first black people’s republic in the history of the world and the second independent nation in the Americas.
Pat Robertson, as a born again Christian and minister, is not making a politically correct, or secular assessment, but a correct Christian theological statement. All shamanistic religions require their priests to be possessed by spirit deities, which is allowing Satanic demonic possession. Those who have been delivered from this bondage testify to the evil of the possessing spirits.
Ok so maybe that pact is not working. What next? A pact to serve satan if he will free the world from Pat?
Oh Ye of little faith? Pat said they were helping the suffering people
in Haiti. The 700 club is usually the first on the scene of disaster to
help those in need. (Just don’t make a pact with the devil) Those of you
who don’t get it, you probably never will, it’s called faith.
Pat Robertson is off his rocker
the above was an off the cuff response and I had ment to hold that post as I rewatched the clip and did a bit of research. Pat said nothing of the sort and I was completley doing what I preach daily against thinking and talking without the facts . Dammit I’m the moron pat pls forgive me. uggg
Pat Robertson . . .
Read Ezekiel 18 – everyone answers for their own sins, not the sins of their fathers (ancestors).
It is past time for you to retire Pat.
My Flying Spaghetti Monster Deity can beat up your Zombie Jesus Deity!
You people who believe in full blown magic would be funny to laugh at, if it wasn’t 2010 — instead it’s just sad. People touting that magic & voodoo are real, and saying this tragedy happened at the same time that an omnipresent & all powerful ‘god’ who “loves them!” let it happen for unknown reasons…just wow. And you WONDER why more people turn away from your insanity everyday?
Your generation may have been that gullible, but the upcoming one is not. Thankfully Protestantism is on it’s way out. The world will be a better place with it gone.
The satanic pact allegedly took place at Bois-Caïman near Cap-Haïtien on August 14, 1791 during a meeting organized by several slave leaders, under [Dutty] Boukman’s leadership, before launching what would become Haiti’s Independence War…….
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Folks, this is the essence of Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam). This is what it all comes from and goes back to when given the chance to assume its real character. Grow up and lose the faith.
Here is an article that clearly indicates that Pat R. is correct. For those of you who think he is wrong, how can you dispute this? http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=14079
It is always very very funny, but sad and tragic at the same time, to see the Christ haters jump up to attack Pat Robertson when he says the most sensible things in the most calm direct tone. People just literally freak out whenever someone suggests that God does impact man and rejecting God does have consequences. And he raises more money for the needy including in this case than all of the fools attacking him on this forum put together.
Shooter … Let me say that I was speaking factually and non-emotionally .. I’m not trying to make anyone angry, I’m simply saying that God created the earth, including the techtonic plates, to do exactly what they are doing to Haiti and any other place that has experienced a massive quake. Let me ask you this: states such as Arkansas, Mississippi, etc. are considered to be last in pretty much everything (I know, I’m from Arkansas), yet one of our bordering states, Texas, is considered to be a progressive and more prosperous state. Does that mean that God has cursed us here in AR and rewarded TX? Of course not, it has to do with POLITICS and POLITICIANS, which is EXACTLY the problem Haiti has had practically the entire time it has existed as a sovereign nation, namely, a few powerful dictators have robbed the country blind and kept the money for themselves and didn’t care what happened to the people, the cities, services, roads, etc. The Dominican Republic, however, has enjoyed a more “democratic” form of government recently (since 1961) with assistance from the U.S. allowing them to flourish.
Pat Robertson and Harry Reid have something in common this week.
Wow Pat. It must be nice to be free of sin so that you can so aptly judge the Haitians. Do you think there aren’t Christians in Haiti? If you read the Bible you should know that people’s descendents are not accountable for their predecessor’s sins, so unless the school kids pledge allegiance to Satan every morning you can’t blame an entire country.
Yes they have a large number of people practicing dark arts, but no more than any other third world country. There’s also plenty of it right here in the US, so who are you going to blame if Virginia has a massive earthquake? Maybe someone will blame you for your non-ending solicitation of “filthy lucre”.
“Hateful?” “Bigoted?” the Bible? Chill out Dude!! Wow… 1 mans opinion has got all you socialists freaking out. Wait until next Tuesday when you loose Drunk Teddy’s seat… That will be fun read about too!..
Since when does Pat Robertson speak for the Republican Party?? Haitians are very much into Voodoo (devil/occult stuff). He is saying if they prayed to God instead maybe they would have a better future.
This hate-filled old fart has to be one of the most evil people on the planet right now. What kind of “god” would do this to the DESCENDENTS of “devil worhippers”? He perverts Christianity like Al Qaeda perverts Islam. Pat and Osama should get together and go bowling.
Let me clarify my last statement. Voodoo is satanic based on how you define certain practices. It is not a direct worship of a singular person known as satan so does not qualify as direct Satan Worship. However, it does involve lots of death, wishing of death upon enemies and black magic sort of concepts and idealogy. So in that sense, since it goes against non-violent loving Christian beliefs it is satanic.
On 14 August 1791, a slave leader by the name of Boukman called a secret meeting in a wood called Bois-Caiman near Cap Haitien, which was attended by a large number of slaves. They celebrated a Satanic ceremony, sacrificing a pig and drinking its blood, swore to serve the devil and dedicated Haiti to him. Up to the present, Haiti’s historians have all attributed Haiti’s achievement of political independence in 1804 to this ceremony. For 206 years, Bois-Caiman was a very holy place, a high place which could only be entered by witch doctors during Voodoo ceremonies. For 206 years, they have been meeting there every 14. August to sacrifice to Satan.
I guess there is some truth to what he said!
Pat is a JERK!!!!
That is to prove why the entire world consider american ignorant fat morons
It’s all President Bush’s fault.
I have to wonder why Mr. Robertson says these things (other than, of course, that it gets him into the news). Even if you were to believe what he says here–and I don’t–as a Christian, wouldn’t your first response be to reach out to people in need and ease their suffering, regardless of what their ancestors might or might not have done in the past? In fact, if you believe that such people are currently unsaved, you ought to focus on doing everything in your power to save them, body and soul. That would include not tossing around cruel comments callously suggesting that those who are currently suffering and dying somehow brought it upon themselves.
Eric, Roberson may not use the best choice of words but there is no evidence that he is hate filled. However, you seem to be hateful towards him and most like lots of others.
By the way: I’m somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan on the political spectrum, and this rabid lunatic does NOT represent me in any way, shape or form. Nor does he represent the Republican Party, or even a substantial portion of it.
Sadly what he’s saying is true. I know it sounds crazy but it is true and if you’ve ever been there, you could know it for yourself. You can see from the air the line down the middle of the island where on the Dominican Republic side is beautiful, vibrant and full of life and on the Haiti side it looks rocky, and dead and hardly any vegetation or life. The animals are malnourished as well as the people. The name Haiti means hell. It looks like what one would imagine to be a place without God. And their main religeon in Haiti is a combination of Catholicism and VooDoo. It is dark and evil and many innocent people have been suffering there for years because of their corrupt govt. He wasn’t being insensitive bc he was asking for prayers and support for the country and hoping this catastrophic natural disaster somehow is the end of a curse and the beginning of something good. Read your Bible about God’s judgment, whether you like it or not, disagree with it or not, it exists. It is extremely sad, especially when innocent people suffer/die. But the truth of it is, innocent people have been suffering and dying in Haiti for generations.
ROBERTSON IS RIGHT. Witchcraft runs that country. Read up, morons!
BLAME BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE DID THIS! THATS WHAT ALL THE DEMS ARE GUNNA SAY
America had better watch out, their Kenyan President has made a deal with the devil too…. carries that likeness in his pocket.
Pat will turn people away from Christianity and drive them to become altruistic “Libertarians” who shout “Ron Paul is the messiah–save us Ron Paul!!!”
As any idiot can plainly see, enlightened libertarianism, where people altruistically act in their own self interests in the name of enlightenment and, self-interest, is the answer to all our problems and misguided religious yearnings.
Don’t you get that, Pat? Get the new religion, dude!!
People like Robertson are ignorant bigots. If he represents Christianity I’m glad I’m not a Christian.
Didn’t I see a clip of Sarah Palin being blessed by a witch doctor?
The religious right wing is really full of strange dangerous people.
Interesting social/religious phenomenon. If a rich socialite with a money to burn does the sex,drugs,alcohol thing and suffers and/or dies as a result of that particularly dangererous lifestyle we are quick to say they got what they deserved. We tend to hold them accountable for their problems, sympathy may or may not be evoked but there is an most often times an acknowledgement that they were responsible for the bad result of a bad lifestyle. But if a less than affluent person, part of the world or particular town/country practices a problematic and dangerous lifestyle be it drugs, violence or religion we tend to feel sorry for them and dismiss the causitive factor when tragic consequences come. Why do people tend to assume there is more virtue in poverty than in wealth, that somehow the poverty of their condition relieves them of the consequence of a bad lifestyle? What a mixed up double standard that has been imposed on us by a left leaning press and education system. Rich = bad no matter what, and poverty = virtue no matter what. What a bunch of rubbish, bad living will bring bad results to the rich and the poor alike and we need to quit enabling stupid and dangerous behaviors for any socio/economic class. Isn’t that what AA and drug rehab teaches – tough love?
Before you jump my case I am not saying in any way shape or form that I agree with Pat that the Haitians deserved this tragedy. I will be looking for ways to help because they are part of God’s creation and deserve help in this horrible time. But neither will I so quickly and completely dismiss the idea that God MAY (I am saying May) use this as tool to bring the Haitians out of their false idol worship. Yes, I believe God uses natural phenomena such as hurricanes/floods/fires/earthquakes to get peoples attention.
To Jerry: “Haiti is cursed. The Black people who were brought out of Africa that became Christian and who accepted the rule of god’s people have become the wealthiest blacks in the world. Those who embraced Satanism, Witchcraft and Voodoo have rejected the teachings teachings of the White race and our god, have been cursed in accordance with the Word of God (the New Testament of the Bible).
God is cursing America as we continue to embrace or celebrate feminism, abortion, homosexual lifestyles, mis-cegenation, and other un-godly things which have always destroyed nations.”
OMG – where to begin? “teachings of the White race and our god” – are you kidding me? News flash – Jesus was a Jew – and by your implied definition – NOT WHITE. I can’t even go on – the rest of your post is just too ignorant for comment.
Pray to the God of everyone for the people of Haiti to heal their suffering and for the strength to rebuild their country. And get your hands dirty helping if you can!
This man is right .
yes he called for relief efforts. there is a phone number to donate money to haiti right under his face when the video starts. Pat Robertson is a good guy. He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true. There is nothing wrong with saying that we need to pray for the people to turn to God. The 700 club already provides food, shelter, education, healthcare, etc. to the poor people in Haiti and now they are doing theyre part to help the relief efforts.
Pat speaks without the Political Correctness that some demand of all public figures today. He went on to illustrate how his organization is helping the people of Haiti. He has also said there is the same need for revival in the US. Unfortuantely, too many people can’t accept plain talk instead of PC double-speak.
Does anyone really believe that, if our leaders deemed it necessary, assasinating Hugo Chavez would NOT be a better alternative to an Iraq-style invasion used to remove Saddam? He never said to assasinate Chavez, even though many reports twisted those comments into a call for it.
Read more about Haiti’s early years here http://www.americandaily.com/article/95
You stupid ppl! He is not judging, he is simply pointing out a fact that the ppl got involved in black magic. You can’t play with fire and there not be some kind of fall out> the devil loves to trick ppl
You must all remember TV evangelism is to Christianity what Pro Wrestling is to Professional Sports. Don’t ever confuse the two they are not one in the same.
Jon Grayson at 3:47- very well put!
I still challenge 97% of the posters here to actually WATCH the video. Unfortunately, they are probably busy doing exactly NOTHING to help the people of Haiti- unlike Pat Robertson.
Pretty sad when someone points out some historical context and gets lambasted for it. But I guess in a country where 60 million people got snookered into voting for a Marxist because he was “cool,” what else should I expect.
When Jeremiah Wright (President Obama’s spiritual advisor for 20+ years) said in regard
to terrorist attacks on America that “America’s chickens are coming home to roost”, none of
you retards said anything about it. How is this any different. When someone rants about
America deserved to get attacked its cool, but how dare anyone say anything bad about a sh!t hole corrupt country like
Haiti. Double standard?
Hey Pat,
I’be been a christian for 60 years and probably know the scriptures as well as you. Take time to study the control of the tongue. You have not yet learned how to control yours. That;s a stupid remark you made. What a lousy testimony!!!
Check the history of this nation before you judge. 32 different governments the last 200 years. Hmmm
Someone should kick his butt back to where he came from. I’d do it, but I can’t ’cause I’m dead.
I’m sure Pat was just giving the historical religious significance of Haiti. But I’m sure what they did not show was that he called for compassion, prayers and service to these victims. In fact his ministry is probably already sending aid.
Are You?
You must be F-Ing kidding me. Is this the year 2010 or 1010. These religious fanatics have to GOOOOO!!!! Be they muslim, christian, hindu, voodoo or any of the other ridiculous religions that man has created to oppress other men. Its religion that is the problem!!!
Let me see a show of hands of those who believe that government and, many these days, Barack Obama, can take care of all the ills humanity suffers. Everybody has a god, even the atheists. Which one do you want to trust, the god that has destroyed more lives than any crusader ever thought of (Stalin, alone, killed at least 50-60 mil) or the atheists’ god (usually, self)? Before you deride Christians, it might be wise to examine how rational is your belief in your own god. There will be serious “belief dissonance” among you when you see what the one-world (kumbaya)government god has in mind for you.
Douche bag.. Die already. I like how some semi say that finding god would help them. Im sure there are many many who died who believe and follow god and are now dead.. so what the f–k is the point. Believe him or not they are dead
Pat continues to give ammo to those religion bashers. It does make you wonder what the hell he’s thinking when he comes up with this stuff. To all of the vicious religion bashers posting on this site, you can be rest assured that the vast majority of Christians are praying for the people of Haiti and will be doing what they can to help through sending money and supplies. This is also a teachable moment why we do not want to promote dependency on government; those that have always seem to pay a higher price, which in this case is poverty and human lives.
Pat,Shut Up! 700 Club? What’s 700? Your cholesterol level or your SAT Score?
In reading the leftist comments, they seem that they are saying what Robertson said when he did not specifically say it.
Robertson may not use the best choice of words but Haiti is considered cursed in one sense or another with poverty, corruption, etc by almost anybody that investigates their current condition.
The fact that leftists HATE Christians and mindlessly at that is more a reflection of their own intolerance and their own leftist extremism than anything else. Good God people, read a book and do some research on your own.
There was indeed a voodoo ritual peformed by Dutty Boukman, a voodoo witchdoctor and slave. This was not made up by Robertson.
This is what happens when old people smoke crack.
If he did indeed say this, and I say if knowing our media, it is insensitive at best.
For years, he has said some “off the wall” thing now and then.
Robertson says that he’s the one
Oh he sure is,
If armageddon
Is your idea of family fun,
An he’s got some planned for you!
(now, tell me that ain’t true)
Jesus thinks you’re a jerk!
-Frank Zappa
The only reason that Pat would send aid to Haiti is to justify his non profit status. He’s sending the money he has stolen from you fools who stand up for him!
Um, JandJ, even if one gives credence to the black magic nonsense you’re spouting wouldn’t the 200 year pact have run out in 2004? My parents went to Haiti on their honeymoon in 1957. At that time it was a tourist destination. The 8mm film my father shot shows typical scenes of life in that part of the world at that time. People were obviously poor by American standards but it looked nothing like the hell-hole it is now. You even see campaign posters and a candidate for an upcoming election waving from the back of a convertible. Haiti’s current state is 100% the doing of almost 40 years of the cleptocracy of Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier, who were probably worse than Satan.
READ PEOPLE! FROM NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0707_040707_tvtaboovoodoo.html
Countdown to George Bush being blamed for this in 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 -
Countdown to Hugo Chavez trying to horn-in in 3 – 2 – 1
Pat Robertson… even if the Haiti people made a deal with the devil… right now is not the time to be talking about it. Those people need our prayers and help. They don’t need a false prophet evangelist judging them. Pat… your 2 minutes of complete insensitivity and anti-Christian diatribe just set true Christians back about 10 years…. many thanks.
Dumbass comments coming from MikeMax, Bryan, etc just make you idiot leftists look more extreme than Robertson. If you were to measure bigotry and hate, you guys seem to have a hell of a lot more of it than Robertson does.
A perfect example of why all religions need to go away. If we are ever going to live in peace and harmony d-bags like Robertson need to die off and not be replaced.
The Haitian people wanted “change” from French rule and they’ve got it, ever since that “change” they have been nothing but a cesspool of humanity. It’s interesting that the other side of the same island prospers given the same resources, I guess some people are not meant to run productive self-ruling countries.
Wow whats freeeeeaky is it was 200 years ago they made the pact to last 200 years. Now at the end of the pact with the devil he goes out with a bang. I hope things turn around for them.
He’s nuts. And I’m very right wing and religious. It’s sad to see where he has gone to.
My wife and I wish to express our sympathy and prayers on behalf of the people in Haiti. Today should be a day of compassion and aid. All judgments should be left for another day and to those directly involved not to self absorbed pundits whether political, social or religious.
Society generally needs two gifts. The first is inspiration to know what to do. The second is power, or the capacity to do it. Unquestionably, lifestyle choices can ameliorate some suffering but will not make us exempt from all opposition and trials. For example, while education and training can generally help us avoid economic hardship by making our skills more valuable, jobs still must be available. Additionally, careful study of history may help us obtain guidance to resolve challenges by following the example of how similar problems were resolved-in this case, a commitment to safe building codes – but that requires extra funds that may not be available to poorer communities.
In many ways our world today is in distress. There are those who persecute and rail against people from any walk of life different from their own. Jews, Christians, Muslims and even Atheists are all loathed in one segment or another around the globe. The attack on Individuals and creeds sometimes seem overwhelming. That is why we need, more than ever, to draw near unto the Lord. As we seek Him ever more diligently, we will surely find ourselves more compassionate and more prone to pitch in and help each other.
You people who agree with Pat and the notion of supernatural retribution are practicing your own form of voodoo.
What did the Bible say about the beam in your own eye?
Hilarious.
Having been to Haiti, the poverty is extreme, some of the worst I have seen, but the people are proud, many are very hard workers, and I have never been to a place where children wear cleaner, brighter clothes to school (at least where I was). Not so easy considering the kids can be seen washing their clothes in the river in the evenings.
Pat needs to shut up and send $$!
hm.. Thanks for the info Pat. Please stop helping. You’re making all of us (Christians) look bad.
The early leaders of the slave revolt — i.e., those present at the referenced voodoo ceremony in 1791 — were run off by Toussaint L’ouverture, who, a Roman Catholic, was a decent and godly man. Even the eccentric despot Henri Christophe was also a Roman Catholic and was crowned by an archbishop.
If Robertson is going to pretend a position of authority on the matter, it would help if he first made himself familiar with the details. “Napoleon III”?? Bonaparte (Napoleon I, after 1804) was still an obscure junior officer in 1791, and his nephew Napoleon III (president in 1848, emperor in 1852) was born only in 1808.
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I think it was Gandhi who said… “I love Christ, but not Christians, because they are so unlike Christ.” True christianity is a rare find. Sad.
For those who think God caused this disaster, that’s nuts. God simply
takes his hand off those who refuse to listen to the word. Yes, disasters
happen and it’s not God’s fault, California also lies on a really big fault
line and if that goes, it’s not God’s fault. Those of you who claim to be
Christians and think Pat is an embarrassment, holy smoke, you haven’t read
your bibles lately. You embarrass me with your lack of knowledge.
RE:
pat robertson is an evil bigot and deserves to be tortured and then be dismembered by a wild pack of dogs.
you sir, do not represent the Christian religion or the teachings of Jesus.
^^
Now theres a rational fellow, Didn’t you used to work for Odie Hussien?
Funny thing jdog, but if you watched the video Robertson had an entire program designed to pray for them and help them with resources. Don’t read just the headlines. It will make you look more foolish than Robertson does.
Pat Robertson is a arse, a self righteous bigoted arse. The Haitians are predominantly Roman Catholic Christians, with a European instilled great fear of God, like all Christians. It is people like Pat Robertson that turned me away from the Church, because of their self righteous belief that they have a better connection to God than those that don’t believe the venomous narcissistic holier than tho crap that they spew from their pie holes. I believe in God, I believe God created life, but man created these self indulging religions to control other men. Isn’t it strange that the first sin was knowledge? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Pat Robertson believes that because he is so in touch with his version of God, that anyone that sees and feels, and thinks differently will burn in his concept of hell, what a truly shallow little man he is. While he begs for money from others.
Pat Robertson is correct in his perceptive insight (and he was correct in knowing that few would have ears to hear the truth, judging by the comments below). Haiti is caught up in voodoo and other ungodly practices. I pray with Pat and other Christians that this tragedy will spark a revival in Haiti, and I also pray and trust God to keep his hand of comfort and peace on those who are suffering.
A man with the cojones to tell the truth – no matter what the (voodoo) hounds of hell say or do!
robertson is ridiculous.
so let me get this straight:
so all of haiti was in on a deal with the devil that didn’t happen some time in the past. the devil has power to rid haiti of the french, which he does. then the haitians (all of them) fufill their end of the deal and serve the devil – whatever that means. for serving the devil, they are cursed. are they cursed by god or by the devil?
wow.
he’s a condescending, demagogueing, preacher man, speaking to peoplel who WANT to believe what he says, who take it on false faith, who don’t want an explanation for what he just said. they take what he just said as an explanation for what happened.
incredible.
What did Lucifer tell Jesus?
You can make a bargain with the devil,
and he can make you richer than Bill Gates,
but ultimately he wants to sift you like wheat,
and he will.
The Haitians MUST turn from Satan, and to the Lord
or they will remain at the mercy of the devil,
and he is merciless.
Just look at Haiti.
A more God-forsaken place you will not find on planet Earth
Everyone should be very careful when quoting the Bible. As someone that has had ‘discussions/debates’
with those of other reglions, and those that interpeted the Bible to what they see will fit there current
lifestyle without any type of tradition to even understand the Bible. Plainly put, what happened to
these people in this earthquake wasn’t the hand of God. It was a fault line, they just happen to be
right above. Regardless of the religion of the area, these people do need all of our prayers and
anything we can provide them.
Smooth, Pat. All this time I thought God was a loving god. Glad to know, as
you pointed out, that he’s a spiteful hate filled bitter vigilante full of death
and destruction. Can I start praying for the death of all who disagree with me?
Your interpretation of God would surely appreciate that kind of vitriol.
Do you think I should start with you?
Shut up already, you self-righteous pompous hatemongering ignorant doomsayer.
Ok, he didn’t document his ‘devil’ assertion at all, and he needs to do so. But his point is very valid. It’s not just the earthquake, Haiti has forever been a sewer of corruption, poverty and witchcraft. And at the end Robertson says we need to pray for and get relief to the people there.
So most and perhaps all of his statement is verifiable. Taken as a whole, without the sensationalist headline, he pretty much was right on. I’d like to hear more about the pact with the devil, though. Given the amount of witchcraft, it’s believable, and if true, dealing with it would be the key to getting back on track.
The ranting and idiocy evidenced in the majority of posts in response to Mr. Robertson’s comments are simply astonishing!!!
The story of the pact with the devil apparently is factual, and for the chap who asked for video of the pact, it might come as a surprise that the event in question took place about a century before movie film and about 150 years before video/TV became commonplace–just in case you did not know. Mr. Robertson is describing something that took place (see the relevant posts before mine) in Haiti’s past. And those who condemn Mr. Robertson’s alleged lack of compassion should listen through the whole clip to the end, where he actually calls for aid to the people of Haiti, says they are helping Haitians, and has his organization’s phone number is posted on the screen to contribute to relief efforts.
It seems that the majority of posters here listen to part of the story and take off on a rant. Not factual, not fair to Mr. Robertson–with whom I do not always agree, and evidence of an impaired span of attention and an inability to understand even slightly complex situations and arguments. Sad for America.
Mr. Robertson already has taken steps to aid the people of Haiti; will those who condemn him do the same? Will you put at least as much effort into aiding the people of Haiti as you have in condemning Mr. Robertson? You don’t even need to give to his organization to aid the Haitians, give to the American Red Cross relief effort.
To all the people on here bashing Christians: this is ONE man’s opinion. typically at times like this most churches use tything money and have drives for funding to help yet never get so much as a thank you from the general public. Most people are too busy attacking Christianity because gays want to get married, way to prioritize. Missionaries typically go to countries in need of help from all over the US and I am sure thousands will go to Haiti. So please quit using ONE person’s opinion to justify the fact that you all blame God for something the Earth has done and attack Christians because we are easy targets seeing as how we don’t strap bombs to our chests in retaliation.
Et voilá! Il a tout expliqué! Napoleon III c’est le responsable pour le tremblement de terre au Haïti. Et le Tsunami? Dit pas! Dit pas! Je le sais, ça c’est la faute de Jeanne d’Arc, bien sur.
Robertson should disappear forever
I could care less who is an aggressive atheist and who is not, nor who is hopelessly chained to the
Obama ying-yang baby drool which currently inflames 99% of our population, ok?
Let’s try this question:
Were the Haitians so enraged they made a deal with the devil to be free from French oppression?
True or false? Names, positions, dates, locations.
Thank you ever so kindly.
Pat Robertson also said we need to get aid to Haita as soon as possible. Got a problem with that?
When has Haiti not be in a crisis?
and besides, doesn’t the rain fall on the righteous and unrighteous? yes, it does.
I am a Christian, but this guy says some the dumbest things and this ranks right up there at the top. Prayers and thoughts to the people of Haiti.
Imagine if you will
A multi-millionaire television evangelist,
Saved from korean combat duty by his father, a u.s. senator
Studied law –
But is not qualified to practice it
Father of a love child
Who, in adulthood, hosts the remnants
Of papas religious propaganda program
Claims not to be a faith healer,
But has, in the past,
Dealt sternly with everything from hemorrhoids to hurricanes
Involved with funding for a secret war in central america
Claiming ronald reagan and oliver north as close friends
Involved in suspicous tax-avoidance schemes,
(under investigation for 16 months by the i.r.s.)
Jesus thinks you’re a Jerk!
-Frank Zappa
I just feel that George H.W. Bush has a lot to answer for in this situation.
“George Boosh January 13th, 2010 – 2:41 pm
It’s ignorant and delusional statements like this that make Pat Robertson a laughing stock for much of the US. It’s no secret this guy is a for-profit holy roller, and a fing ahole. What a jerk. Moron cites Haitians made a pact with the devil. The only other person who gets laughed at more is Sarah the idiot Palin.”
Hey Boosh, dont forget your ineffectual boy Zero, he’s getting laughed at alot these days. He’d get laughed at alot more than he already is if only he wasnt screwing the country up so bad. He’s going to economically destroy us all what with all the money he’s printing and spending for no results. Haiti will look like a picnic in 10 years when the worlds economy is destroyed because we can no longer pay our debts. Have a peachy day you freakin’ braindead liberal!!
Pat, are you really sure you are still a Christian? You don’t sound like one here!
Will someone pull this A#@*(&#s plug already !! What in the hell is wrong with people like him?! Good God deliver us from imbeciles. I would pray to Satan to get rid of this ASS.
srr345, Ghandi was a known anti-Christian bigot and it was proven on many occasions. He did not want violence against Christians but his lack of respect towards other religions was well documented. He played middle road on many things but was definitely not the best example of a non-bigot.
And considering the majority of hateful posts coming from non-Christians on this board, i would have to conclude that your side has more issues with intolerance than Christians do. It is obvious that most of you have no clue about Christianity, or even what Robertson said or meant here.
This is rather embarrassing for us Christians. Please do not infer that we blame bad things like this on voodoo pacts or anything. There is no evidence that a nation or a people can make a pact with the devil. There is no evidence in the Bible for making a pact with the devil. When somebody serves money more than g-d, that is as close as you can get to making a pact with the devil. I have a covenant with Jesus, and bad things still happen to me. Jews have long had a covenant with g-d and history is sometimes the most cruel with the chosen people.
Ironically, Pat Robertson supported the deficit, unprecedented at the time, of President Ronald Reagan. The first President Bush called those policies voodoo economics. He also participated in the suspicious end-times financial planning seminars. He also participates in the “prosperity gospel” as he just did in this video clip.
Now days, my friends and neighbors are having their jobs sent to places where workers are not allowed to have a Sabbath, or equivalent. Pat Robertson supported that on the 700 club saying that it would spread capitalism to China. Well, if the Communist Party Corporation does not allow Sabbath in their form of Capitalism, we have the worst of both worlds. Thanks Pat.
It’s good to note such correlation – we do need to pray that they get the assistance that need and comfort. But I pray also that they will make a pact with God to bring them out of this aweful state they’ve lived in for centuries.
Is Voodoo not Satanic? Pat Robertson hit the nail on the head here.
He’s also right that we need to pray for the Haitians. Where’s the hate in that?
“DeFace
Typical Republican response. And they wonder why many Americans fear their part in the power structure. These prudish Republican bible thumpers are relics of Jim Crow.”
DeFace needs to study history. First, Jim Crow was not a person, it was a term used for a set of segregrationist laws and got its name from a dance routine performed by a guy in blackface. Second, the Jim Crow laws were created, passed and imposed by Democrats in the South, not Republicans!
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” -Abraham Lincoln, the Republican President who freed the slaves.
Another dumbass award goes to Spasmoto and frank o for speaking before hearing the facts.
What Mr. Robertson is referring to is well known to Christians and Jews, its the first two, of the Ten Commandments (Deuteronomy 5) as well as Numbers 14:18. These were handed down by God through Moses to the Israelites nearly 3500 years ago and all current Judeo-Christian faiths as well as “natural law”, as it is referred to in the US Constitution, are based on them.
It is therefore highly plausible that what Mr. Robertson is saying is a manifestation of God’s Covenant. The Haitians as well as some West African nations are well rooted in the practices of Vodun. Now think about where the greatest poverty in the world is at this time.
You mock what you do not understand or comprehend. Its very clear to those who have faith in God.
Deuteronomy 5:7-10
‘You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. ‘
Numbers 14:19
‘The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’
ok, so maybe voodoo originated in haiti? so what? where did satan originate? think about it.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be, (Pat’s) speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Way to speak the truth Pat! We are called to pray to Haiti – and to help (which I don’t see bozo BO doing….) Even so, the fact still remains, Haiti has made its pact with the Satan… And the island folk know what it means to serve the voodoo-man….!!!
Now let’s see how well FEMA works under this Administration when BO won’t send a dime to his starving brother or help one relative!!!
99% of the people posting on here didn’t watch the video. I don’t like Pat, but he wasn’t attacking the people of Haiti and he actually brought up a really good point… so why is Haiti such a hellhole and Dominican Republic isn’t? Now whether the the government made a deal with the devil to get rid of the French or not, sounds more like “old person embellishing a story”… but not the hate everyone on here is acting like it was.
Pat is right. He says pray for the suffering and they’ll be sending relief as well. Suggesting that their is a problem with Haiti makes Pat crazy? I suggest that anyone who doesn’t think there is a problem with Haiti is CRAZIER. That place is a hell hole…..explain that. Maybe bad things are happening to them to get them to wake up? Maybe suffering right now is better than suffering forever.
Based on these comments I would say that this country is RIPE for a judgment of its own. Because God is a loving God he will have to do something soon to get us to turn our hearts and get our priorities back on the things that are important (Him). The other option is to go down hard cursing Him (which looks to me like it may be a leading option among posters here).
He’s right ya know, da boogie man gonna get us all!
Boo!
GOD BLESS PAT ROBERTSON FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO TELL IT STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART. NO ONE COMPLAINS WHEN A DOCTOR SAYS ‘YOUR HARD LIVING HAS HURT YOUR BODY AND IT NEEDS FIXED’ OR WHEN A JUDGE SAYS ‘YOUR CRIMES COST YOU SOME PRISON TIME’. NO ONE BECOMES ANGRY WHEN A PERSON SAVES ANOTHER PERSON FROM FALLING OFF A CLIFF. AND IT IS NOT RUDE OR CALLOUS TO SAY ‘YOU WILL DIE IF YOU STEP OF OF THAT CLIFF – ITS HAPPENED BEFORE, SO DON’T BECOME A VICTIM, ‘.
This man of faith and integrity is obviously distraught by the tragedy of this earthquake as well as the tortured history of the Haitian people as a whole. It is VERY CHRISTIAN to tell the truth, to shed light on the causes and effects of the human condition from a natural AND spiritual perspective, and to work to avoid and rectify the mistakes of the past.
I do agree with TYPGWB that Pat should cite the basis of the story he has recounted, yet he does correctly point to the contrast of the poverty and strife of the Haitians as compared to the relative prosperity and well-being of the Dominican Republic which share the same island home. That evidence plus Haiti’s direct connection to Voodoo and black magic is supremely clear.
Finally, to those of you quick to blame or question God, such as Bodhi above, remember these three things: 1) He gave us the ultimate gift of freedom to make choices. 2) Choices have consequences. 3) He gave us clues to how to make good choices by saying, ‘The power of life and death is on the toungue’, ‘Choose life’, and ‘Do not be decieved – whatever a man sows, he will also reap’. One last clue: ‘The devil comes to kill, steal, and destroy’ and is ’seeking those whom he might devour’
And to the rest of you believers out there, remember that true Christianity ALWAYS looks foolish until the fruit of our lives proves out our faith. Be like David: Honor God, do not touch His annointed in word or deed, do NOT throw stones, and finally, forgive and be forgiven.
Some of the comments on here are just as ridiculous as that fool Pat’s! All of the, “But it is true, look it up” Bullsh*t!
Well, unfortunately, anyone with a knowledge of the Haitian obsession with voodouism and witchcraft was probably thinking the same thing. “How strange that a country with these practices has this happen to them?” Again, not all the population, but much of it. Not to mention their sick cultural practice of “zombification”. These are facts about their culture; NOT assumptions. I’ve done much studying on Haiti and the Haitian culture. Again, it’s no excuse NOT to get them AS MUCH HELP AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
Just an a’hole; his message is chiefly directed to his flock of morons.
I think we should all stop this bickering and send up a Voodoo blessing for the Haitian people. Can we all agree to do that?
just google haiti and voodoo and you will see the history of this island. He did not make it up.
Dennis Kerr, you seem more backwards on your facts than Robertson does. Just saying.
Do some research on Dutty Boukman. You will find that there was one or more voodoo events
and that agreements were made with certain “spirits” related to voodoo to help get rid of the French.
And there is plenty of wording and future promises found in the Bible about entire nations being cursed and other nations be blessed.
So your lack of evidence is just evidence that you did not do your own research.
I believe Pat is referring to a black slave and witchdoctor named Dutty Bouchman (Bouchman… Bookman because he was one of the few slaves who could read and write). On August 14th 1791, displaced African slaves in Haiti held a ritual known as the Bois Caiman. Bouchman was able to recruit large numbers of enslaved men to fight against the French. In a great battle against the army of the French they won their independence. During the ritual, Buchman had a pig slaughtered and it’s blood was drank and promises made. A pact was made to give their land over to their Gods for the help of freeing them from French tyrany.
I think that this is what Mr. Roberts is talking about.
I bet the majority of people with the hate filled comments consider themselves to be Christians, but choose to only believe the good stuff in the Bible and totally disregard the fact that yeah, Satan does have dominion over the Earth and good people as well as bad pay the price for past sins.Everybodies response is to always jump all over Mr.Robertson whenever he comments on these disasters…Guess these are the same type of people who considered the prophets of the Bible and even Christ Himself as fanatics when They spoke of Gods wrath and the power of satan over things that happen on earth.
hummmm, lets see….devil – French – devil – French, ahhh, I’ll go with the French, better bread…..
The only pact here is the Christian rights perverted desire to lin suffering to the wrath of God.
Why don’t all you flaming liberals give $1.00 for every time you take it in the ass in January!
Pat Robertson is a piece of garbage.No person with an ounce of compassion would say such a hateful thing.
I am not religious, but Pat Robertson is no Christian.
Found this on the web:
“It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.”
Well, we now know that Pat didn’t come up with this on his own.
I’m just saying…!
Pat Robertson is not an idiot or nuts, he is a very intelligent God fearing man. You do not build the CBN empire or the highly successful university as an idiot. Besides sending insults what do you Wanda Jones, nathan, Will Ryan et.al what have you accomplished in your lives? If you would pick up your Bible and read it you would see what Pat is talking about. Read the book of Ephesians, this book speaks about our need to be aware of Evil and to fall into the trap of trusting Evil. Pat is simply explaining that in Haiti they did not heed this warning and went to Evil to remove the French, but this pact with the Devil has been a horror for them.
If you don’t understand the Bible, or believe the Bible what Pat says to you does sound weird, but I challenge each of you very kind and thoughtful LIBERAL, you’re such nice tolerant people. I challenge you to read Ephesians and also to investigate the history of Haiti and see what YOU find out.
I have friends serving there. They are all OK, thank God. To have this half-wit
Say that this is somehow punishment for making a pact with the devil is just
disgusting. This is not the first time Mr. Robertson has made such vile comments.
This man is not/not a Christian!
Did any of you band wagon jumpers actually LISTEN to what this man said? No…just like every other “jumper” you are quick to speak and slow to listen…..try it again, only this time with the nonjudgemental spirit you so seek the other side to have…..some of you are no different than the religious “right” that you so hate…..you are just like them only on the other side of the fence…..PEACE OUT!!
This would explain why nothing in Haiti prospers for very long if it prospers at all. The other half of the island (Hispaniola) is relatively prosperous. The other half of the island!!! The Bible speaks of unseen powers and principalities. None of this is idle scribling and is or will come to pass. Read it for yourselves folks. No secret’s here for those who are called and believe. We need to help these folks in their time of need.
P.S. – Notice Pat does not say GOD cursed the Haitians but that previous generations of ill-advised Haitians and the devil are to blame for their horrid history.
This is true compassion, folks, like it or lump it.
Tell the truth, face the root causes of a problem while aleviating the pain of the symptoms, then heal the patient.
God is good and is FOR the healing of the nation of Haiti and her people.
THAT is EXACTLY what Pat is saying.
I’m a devout evangelical Christian, and Pat Robertson is wrong wrong wrong. Fools and tools like Robertson make true Christianity look bad.
The bible is replete with examples of God’s judgement against nations and that includes those that He considers His “chosen”. Anyone here stating their belief in Christ that dismisses Pat as a nut is as guilty as the nation of Israel that repeatedly stoned and executed their prophets. God uses His creation to bring judgement, so He can withhold the tectonic plates or release them to wreak havoc as He wishes. Just because we now understand that tectonic plates shift and move over one another to cause earthquakes does not mean that God does put it into motion. Keep in mind, with all our technology and understanding we are still confounded by the actual trigger of these events as we cannot come close to predicting them.
God has more qualities than love, grace, mercy, and peace. He is very clearly a jealous God and His wrath is equal to His love in its potency.
Because He understands the eternal His perspective on causing death to humans is not the same as ours for those of you who believe if He truly did this then He is wrong. He has given the nation of Haiti time to repent; did they?
Americans today are about to also see God’s judgement brought to bear on the US. Many who frequent this site are conservatives who are worried about the direction of the country and about the sustainability of our economy. God is giving us a chance to repent ourselves before He brings judgement on America, but what I read above tells me that His judgement is imminent. If you don’t think we will fall and see a time worse than the Great Depression then you are not a student of history as we are repeating almost every mistake that led to it. Only God will change the direction of this country, not some new politician.
Each person condemning Pat is only proving the truth of the Bible to those of us who study it. Unbelievers and false believers have always cursed or ridiculed men of God. God is patient to bring judgement on you, but its coming soon…are you ready?
Pat DID hit the nail on the head with this one. If you think this earth quake is bad
wait until the big one hits in revelations where the entire earth will be shaken. And to the
folks who ask “why would a loving god allow these things to happen”, my question to you is WHY NOT? It’s unfortunate that people don’t truly know who God really is because they don’t take the time to read his Word. You’ve made up your own fictitious god. God is not just a loving god, but a god of judgment, righteousness, justice and much more. He never ever said that these things would not happen to people. It’s the exact opposite of that and it’s written in the bible. We need to be praying for these folks, not thinking about them. Thought’s do nothing. Prayer is the most powerful thing any person can do for another.
God free is the way to be. why does this man have air time?
HEY!
Did any of you listen to what he said? THE WHOLE STATEMENT? Robertson’s Operation Blessing organization HAS a full shipping container of medicine on the ground in RIGHT NOW! He asked for prayer for the people in the disaster, but took action and already has resources IN and moving to another ministry that is there and active right now. How many listened to the first thrity seconds, made up your pre-conceived (to much MSM for you?) minds. I doubt anyone moved to help as fast. You watch to much TV, then make JUDGEMENTS on the pablum you sucked up, then spew again yourself…
I saw the whole comments he made while surfing for news on the victims. Shame people just puke out what they think when they have but a small bit to go on.
Glad I saw what he REALLY said, in context. I might have been one of you pitch fork toting MORONS! Obamabot kool-aid drinkers got nothing on YOU do they?
I’m not a really fan of Pat Robertson but his statements can be backed up… Historians traditionally identify the catalyst to Haitian revolution as a particular Voodoo ceremony in August 1791 performed at Bois Caïman by Dutty Boukman, a priest. Here’s the citation: http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/history/revolution/revolution1.htm
I am going to send mud and twigs so they may rebuild the country. money would be useless to these people, it will never get past the govenment officials that made this country what it is today, a mess.
Voodoo has been a part of Haiti life since its import with slaves from Africa. It appears that it is now their official religion. Google it yourself and if you agree, then it certainly aligns itself with a demonic contract earlier on. You decide.
“In late April (2003), President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a former Catholic priest, declared voodoo an officially recognized religion. It’s a move that some Christians in the chronically poor nation of 7.5 million people say is an ominous sign.
“The government said they are going to turn the country entirely to voodoo. The Christians say we are going to turn the country totally to the Lord Jesus Christ,” said Jean Berthony Paul, founder of Mission Evangelique du Nord D’Haiti.
Obviously some are very ignorant of God,Jesus,Holy Spirit.
1 God is Righteous and Holy… He made Hell for the Devil his Angles and Sinners
2 God loves man and sent Christ his Son to redeem Man through Faith
3 God has a cup of Iniquity for all of us in heaven and when that Cup runs over the Hammer drops, things start to happen……
4 God is not a Respecter of Persons and will punish the Righteous with the Wicked
5 It’s his Game plan, nothing happens by accident on this earth……… not even YOU
6 This is Bible 101
7 If you do not know these things then the only thing separating you from Hell is a Heart Beat.
8 Have you ever ask yourself, Where will you go when you Die? Even Darwin ask the Lord for forgiveness before he died. Smart Man………………
Say what you want believe what you want but every man deep down inside knows God is waiting on the other side and the only Person to protect you from the Rath to come is Jesus. I would Run to him if I were you.
He’s almost as hateful and ignorant as President Bush II. I’m particularly impressed with the comments defending his statements. Now, who says Americans are ignorant, bigoted morons? And still you wonder why the rest of the world despises you.
Take a look at the history of Haiti. A quick review wil show that most historians agree that the Haitian revolution can be traced to a Vodou ceremony. Pat Robertson, as would most Christians, believe that the Vodou is a ‘religion’ of Satan. So He speaks the truth of the history of Haiti and calls for prayers to help heal the island nation.
Perhaps, people might listen to him for what he is saying instead of ignoring the fact that Evil and Good exist in this world. Pretending it does not exist, doesn’t make it so.
Bodhi Wrote: “Why would his loving God allow such carnage?” Answers to this question are found in God’s Word for those who care to read it. The Bible is God talking to us. Why does man,the creature, choose to listen to one another and reject the absolute truth of their Creator?
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness of men who supress the truth in unrighteousness. For that which is known about God is evident within them for God made it evident to them; for since the creation of the world His invisiable attributes, eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse” –Romans 18:20.
“And in as much as it is appointed for men to die once then comes judgment” –Hebrews 9:27. One who puts their faith in Jesus Christ in this life will never face His judgment in the next because they have been judged already at the cross. Faith in Christ’s atoning sacrifce on their behalf at Calvary becomes the basis of their righteousness before a Holy God.
What happened in Hati may or may not be the result of collective national sin. But the fact that God does allow national suffering at the hands of other nations as well as natural elements for redemptive purposes is well established through out the Old Testament. Read about His acts of discipline against Israel who were and still are His own chosen people who were chosen to be His Priest nation to the whole world. He loved them enough to warn them of the consequences of their sin. He bore with their inquities for hundreds of years. He repeadidly told them, through prohets, what He was going to do in the face of their apostacy. They wouldn’t listen to His warnings, so in His righteous anger, they suffered terribly at the hands of the nations around them. He brought powerful and mighty nations against them so that they eventually lost possession of the promised land and their national identity as well. All this for one purpose; that God would perserve a remenant that would again seek Him and be forgiven, healed and restored. But they refused to give up their idols and later their man-made legalism. However, He has fixed a day when they will repent and return to Him in saving faith that produces the fruit of whole-hearted comittment and obedience.
God is self-existant; the source, creator and sustainer of all life. He doesn’t exist for us –we exist for Him! He is sovereign and we have our being for His glory –Isaiah 43:7. How absurd and arrogant that man, who can’t even make one hair on his head black or white, demands that He (God) play by his rules! He is loving and merciful but He is also Holy and Just.
This is actually a pretty good day for Pat.
Last week, he showed up for work with his buttt plug clenched between his teeth.
On the subject of cursing …
Deut:
15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.
16 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.
17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour’s landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.
18 Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.
19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen.
20 Cursed be he that lieth with his father’s wife; because he uncovereth his father’s skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.
21 Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.
22 Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.
23 Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen.
24 Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.
25 Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.
26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
Pat Robertson is a 33rd degree freemason pretending to love jesus. he has been photographed giving the masonic handshake to the leader of comunist china and displaying other devil worshiping signs of recognition. there are many fakes who worship money who head large christian churches and who secretly want world government, they are of the devil but the average christian has no clue..bless haiti…
Kix, I don’t know what version of the Bible you are quoting from, but the translation of that passage is dead-wrong. The King James Version reads as such: “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:”.
This passage is about temptation, not trials! Are you really prepared to state that God does not put us through trials? That is false doctrine.
The compassionate thing to do is nuke the rest of them and put them out of their misery.
I would love to see Cristy in the video just lean over and bitch slap the piss out of Pat.
Then ask him,
Pat where did that come from the devil,
or from me?
Almost every time there is a major trajedy or attack these religious nuts come out of the woodwork to blame the victims. Gays and
feminists were responsible for 9/11 and/or the US turning away from God (according to them) and now ole Pat is blaming this
earthquake on a Haitian pact with the devil. I wonder if his family were ever affected by a tragedy what “sin” would he blame them
of that caused the tragedy to befall them? None of course.
he’s a jerk, because his words are hurtful, and does not align with scripture.
see luke 13:4 for example, where those killed were not being punished; and john 9:3, where a crippled man is not suffering because of the sins of his father.
we must be moved with compassion, and act to help, as jesus did when he saw people in need.
that is the great American Christian tradition.
What is it going to take to get this moron off the airwaves? Sheesh, I can’t believe there is anyone left that is stupid enough to take him seriously. What a black mark on humanity.
I’d like to see this so called “Pact” in writing….any proof of it ever being said/done?
Those who quickly call him a nutcase need to stop and listen. First we help them, then we pray for them, then we try to show them the way. America grew strong and free with God’s blessing…so can Hatti. Now we seem on the verge of slipping back…so pray for us too.
“The most historically important Vodou ceremony in Haitian history was the Bwa Kayiman or Bois Caïman ceremony of August 1791 that began the Haitian Revolution, in which the spirit Ezili Dantor possessed a priestess and received a black pig as an offering, and all those present pledged themselves to the fight for freedom. This ceremony ultimately resulted in the liberation of the Haitian people from French colonial rule in 1804, and the establishment of the first black people’s republic in the history of the world and the second independent nation in the Americas.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou
See “Haitian Revolution”
The reason Haiti suffers is because of six wealthy families that control the island. They are the power behind Papa Doc, Baby Doc, and nothing changed when Baby Doc was forced out. Nothing will change until they are gone and all their cronies. The people of Haiti are good people who suffer under this brutal system. The real devils are those corrupt families behind those iron gates, surrounded by guards with machine guns.
this all happened because of a haitian sect which professes to worship the negro dialect
The non-christians bashing Robertson I understand. But the Christians? Truly, bashing and judging Robertson is like Robertson bashing and judging Haiti. Which I didn’t exactly detect him bashing or hating on Haiti, but giving his opinion of their spiritual condition. I heard him also say we definitely need to pray for and help Haiti and that their suffering is unimaginable. I heard absolutely no hatred coming from him. Yes, Haiti’s main religion is Catholicism, but many of them also dabble in Voo-doo. Here’s an excerpt The Haiti Support Group that gives some back up to Robertson’s claim in which they had a pact w/the devil to break from the French:
“For Haitians at certain points in history, Voodoo (spelled Vodou in Haiti and pronounced voe-DOO) has functioned as a sort of liberation theology, lending its energy to revolutionary movements.
One of those movements made Haiti the first black republic in 1804, another brought an end to the Duvalier family’s 30-year grip on the country in 1986 and boosted into temporary power the democratically elected Jean-Bertrand Aristide, then a Catholic priest, in 1990.”
With all due respect, is this really a time for “the sins of the father” sermon?
While Haiti’s history is self-explanatory, it serves no purpose to rub their nose in it while they are already buried to their necks.
Pat Robertson is one reason organized religions continues to lose members.
Pat Robinson is the only person in this equation who has sold and prostituted himself to corporations and politicians. He is the one that has sold himself to Mammon and Satan. a**hat.
SCREW HAITI! They are so damned backwards that it is not funny.
I don’t recall any news reports of Haitians expressing their sympathy for any earthquakes in the U.S.
The entire rest of the world can take self-fisting lessons from the Obama educational department.
Pat Robertson is a kook though.
If you claim to be a Christian but discount the power of siding with the devil…you are kidding yourself about what you know and what you are. Anyone who reads the bible is supposed to figure out how the universe works…and guess what, it does work that way. Pat roberstson might be a weasely guy…But he’s not in charge. God is, and If He’s had enough of something, he will deal with it.
Take a look at the history of Haiti and the D.R., or Israel & her enemies and you will see with your own eyes what happens to countries who choose to go against God.
OH yeah…it happens to people, too.
He changes not/ if it’s a curse why did it take 11,000,000 deaths under Hitler, etc, before he was stopped. It’s a sign of the end times, a piticular people cursed after Christ came and died for the lost, its hard to believe. All is under a curse and that is death. Now I will say that they are not under the hand of God like all that are not born again. No different then the lost here, why are they not dead? Cause we are under Mercy/ grace. God removes His hands in Revelation. Now I know what happened, Satan caused it and killed them/
Jhn 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.
As a non-Christian, I am often sickened, saddened, bemused and enraged when some tool like Robertson makes another statement like this. All of the atheists and faithful of other religions that I know are far better examples of good Christians (at least according to Jesus) than the self-professed, drum banging Chri$tian$ like Robertson. Matthew 16:23 covers his morally bankrupt carcAss pretty well:
“Get behind me, adversary, you are a stumbling block, for you mind the things of man, not the things of god.”
TIP OF THE HATE
plz read!!!!!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0707_040707_tvtaboovoodoo.html
In April 2003 an executive decree by then president Jean-Bertrand Aristide sanctioned voodoo as an officially recognized religion.
In April 2003 an executive decree by then president Jean-Bertrand Aristide sanctioned voodoo as an officially recognized religion.
“It is a religion in the same way Judaism or Christianity is,” said Bob Corbett, professor emeritus of philosophy at Webster University in St. Louis, Missouri. “Voodoo doesn’t have a sacred text, a church, or a hierarchical structure of leaders, but it is very similar culturally.”
Really did the devil tell him that? How does he know, from where does he take this stand? CHUMP!
What an ignorant Jackass.
“Or do you suppose that those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them were worse culprits than all the men who live in Jerusalem? I tell you, no….” – Jesus explaining in Luke 13 that Pat Robertson is wrong.
Pat, you are a complete ass.
Many previous comments are lambasting Mr. Robertson’s remarks as hateful, insensitive, stupid, etc… If you listen to the man instead of persecuting & judging him for his beliefs, you may have the ears to hear & eyes to see. He is stating a fact that occured in history & does provide examples of the disparate difference between Haiti & DR though they are on the same island. God does bless those who honor & desire His blessings. If you choose to worship the evil spirits of this world, as Haiti is known for, God’s protection will not be on your land. Pat does exhort all to help & pray for the people of Haiti that something good will come from this. If you do not believe in God, he still loves you & sent his Son to die for you. May God bless you & keep you all!
To kmichaels,
Nice hateful name calling you spew. I have several Bibles and religious books and have actually read them, unlike most religious people I’ve met. The stories are weird at best and taking second hand hearsay as the absolute truth is bizarre. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is looking down on you right as you type. I loved your copout about our free will. Maybe Mr. all powerful can fight Satin and Godzilla with one hand tied behind (His/Her/Its) back. Maybe you should attack Rome for allowing Michael Angelo to draw cartoons of God on church ceilings.
Oh sure, I’m an all powerful God and so I’ll make a son, from a virgin who was previously married to a sailor (go figure), pretend to be me and then get killed to prove I’m a loving Godlike thingy. I’m am so powerful that I’ve even hidden my heaven/office from the probing eyes of space telescopes. So don’t bother looking up to pray in my direction because I forgot to tell you the the Earth rotates and orbits the sun instead of letting you think the Sun goes around the Earth. And if you happen to find the Moon isn’t a perfect circle, but instead has mountains, I’ll have you burned at the stake, or sent to prison like I did for that child minded Galileo. And watch out for those windows in the firmament opening up and causing a flood in your direction.
But on the bright side. Maybe you will learn grammar someday.
The meek minded shall inherit the lava tubes. J Hell C
Was Pat the “nut” who said God told him to go up in a tree and not come out until he “raised” $1M for his ministry? It seems like it
was him but these religious nuts are all the same…prostituting themselves, their religion and God for money.
I’ve heard this whole “Haiti is ruled by Satan” thing before. The Haitians did do a voodoo service in order to bless their revolution (a link to a website with info, just scroll down near the bottom for the relevant portion on the voodoo service: http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/history/revolution/revolution1.htm ). Many Christians consider the spirits associated with voodoo to be manifestations of Satan and his demons, so factually I suppose he is sort of right. It’s one of those historical/theological oddities that is fun to discuss in an academic setting. I give him credit for trying to raise money for the people devastated by the earthquake, but that is not the time or place to discuss this type of thing. I honestly don’t know what to think about Pat Robertson most of the time. He does a lot of good both in the US and abroad, but he certainly has a knack for putting his foot in his mouth, and when he does he gives himself and all other evangelical Christians a bad rap.
PS: And yeah, he obviously got the wrong Napoleon.
What’s the problem? A lot of Haitians are worshippers of the devil. Why do Pat’s statements cause controversy?
MAGICMAN: Actually, this is a perfect time to discuss “the sins of the fathers” – when people are tenderhearted enough to listen to truth – from the God of Heaven, not lies from the god of hell.
Adam and Eve were given the Earth to do as they wished. It was theirs. Everything was fine. They were able to talk with God, do as they wanted, if they did as God said. God cared for them, and loved them. He had one thing he did not want them to do. They had a free will. They had the ability, to obey, or not. To obey, was good. To not obey, was bad. God had one rule. Do not eat of the fruit from the center of the garden. That was it. No other rules. By obeying the rule with their own will, they showed they loved God. When they caved to satan, and disobeyed God’s will, they showed they no longer wanted to follow God Rule. The earth was theirs. They gave it over to satan when they obeyed him. So the Earth is owned by satan. Adam gave it to him. Adam and Eve made a choice. They chose to disobey. God can only honor that choice because to do anything else, would indicate Adam and Eve truly did not have a free will. So when things go bad down here, it is satan’s work, not Gods. We are still paying the price for our rebellion against God. So, stop your whining.
If all of you condemning Robertson apply the same standard to Bin Laden and radical Muslims pushing Sharif Law, then no problem. If not, your hypocrites. If any of you found the comment made by the liberal clowns after Regan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s said ,”There must be a God after all”, amusing or did not condemn the TRASH that made comment, then you are definitely LIBERALS, as well as, hypocrites and nothing you say has any value.
Once again, Pat Robertson got that right.
Robertson is crazier than a sh*thouse rat! He is a stain on Christianity and conservatism. He speak blasphemy. God does not act this way, and Robertson is nuts.
16 x 7 bulls-eye
God is love. Pat Robertson is hate. Who’s philosophy would you follow. I pray for sake of Pat’s soul that God is more forgiving than I am. Haiti, now more than ever, needs all the help, love and prayers we can give.
I’m not too worried about one Christian man’s words when Islam is busy blowing people up daily.
Don’t confuse this nut-case with a genuine Christian thinker. He’s as crazy as they come. I’m a life-time believer and would NEVER say something so stupid.
It true about the pack the people made ( it’s history ) ironically which is worse the french or the devil is a matter of question.
it is also a fact scientist have not been able to ever explain how one side of the island has tremendous hardships and natural disasters and the other side gets none.
Pat may be a NUT, but the rest is true FACT !
This wacko is one of the most irresponsible “TV Religion” hawkers who ever lived. Shut up Pat. Nobody is listening!
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Well obviously YOU’RE listening…otherwise how could you have known about this?
I’m encouraged to see how many Believers are commenting. It gives one hope that all is not lost to the god of voodoo/the world, Satan. There still is time to share the truth of the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST, the name above all names!
Lets get our head out of our orifices here!…It’s a fact the idea that God doesn’t not judge sinners is stupid!..This wishy-washy Stupidity is why you fools come on this site…uneducated and haven’t read the history of Haiti …It’s a very well know fact morons….exactly why Haiti is the way it is …but I/m sure I’m talking to idiots
You are exactly Spot On, Pat……!!!!!!!
I am sure Pat Roberson is kicking himself for this mistake, although he makes statements like this far to often. However would like to make this comment … O wait … scratch that … I’ll just keep my mouth shut.
‘What a scumbag. Did he call for any releif efforts or is this the only quote you have?’ -Ashen
-I’m glad you so deftly noticed the giant 800 number below the words ‘Relief Aid’ sprawled across the bottom of the screen. I’m fairly certain this means relief for the Haitians themselves and the disaster which was, and now literally, is their country. Also just like clockwork here come all of you ‘open minded’ citizens name calling and or calling on Pat to shut up while you all conveniently speak your mind. Its one man’s opinion I really don’t know what the hell the big deal is. Does anyone ever ponder how if Pat was forced to not speak his mind like this on his own terms we wouldn’t be living in America anymore? Whats next? Banning top rated talk show hosts from entering the country? Also spell check next time smart guy.
Go Pat Go!!!
Robertson is right.
Northridge (LA) quake = epicenter at heart of p 0rrn smvt industry
New Orleans hurricane/flood = heart of voodoo in the USA
San Fran quake = San Fran has always been a cesspool of sin
Haiti earthquake = epicenter in heart of large city where Satanic pact was made & voodoo is everywhere
Muslim related = 2004 Tsunami in Indonesia, earthquake in Pakistan, earthquake in Iran (Islam is causing most wars/violence around the world)
Massive quake in India yrs ago = during a Hindu ceremony
Record setting cold temperatures this year worldwide = while liberals & new agers scream global warming alarmism
Coincidence?
I’m a Christian. Pat Robertson does not speak for me. Shut your mouth you babbling idiot. Haitia? Are you senile??
Pat is still with us because neither heaven nor hell want him. Get a clue Pat, the real deveil here is you!
God never punishes his children without first warning them through his prophets; and, he usually gives a lot of time to repent. That PR would say this is so far from the teachings of the bible it is hard to believe that anyone considers him a Christian.
What an idiot. Does the Lord work this way. No, never in the Bible has the Lord does this as a punishment. Well, Sodoom may be an exception. How do the poor people of this nation compare? Pat Robertson is a jerk. He should shut up.
God doesn’t punish people in need. He doesn’t punish people who just try to survive. What deal with the Devil? You are a nut. I hope your show goes away.
People need men and women who love God and who love the truth. Not an antichrist.
God is love , compassion , understanding. Douche man is human. A poor leader for sure.
Here we go again! Do you folks even read other comments. God is not just a god of love. That kind of thinking about the lord is just plain wrong. OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ IT PEOPLE!
Chris D says this …
Chris D January 13th, 2010 – 4:55 pm
God is love. Pat Robertson is hate. Who’s philosophy would you follow. I pray for sake of Pat’s soul that God is more forgiving than I am. Haiti, now more than ever, needs all the help, love and prayers we can give.
Then fails to actually watch the video, which pretty much showed ZERO HATE for Haitians. Maybe Robertson does not use the best choice of words but your comment that he is all about hate is just plain STUPID AND WRONG. Do some research first before you show off how stupid you can be.
Robertson’s program in question was about getting aid sent to Haiti, dimwit. And he was talking about helping Haiti over and over again. You dimwits need to research more and drool less.
Chris D. wrote: “God is love. Pat Robertson is hate. Who’s philosophy would you follow. I pray for sake of Pat’s soul that God is more forgiving than I am. Haiti, now more than ever, needs all the help, love and prayers we can give.”
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And in case you didn’t notice, Chris D, there was a number given right on the screen for how to help Haiti in the aftermath of this. Did you even watch the video clip?
Seriously, George H.W. Bush, you asshole!
Pat is not condemning anyone. He is merely stating a Biblical fact. If you choose to follow the devil, you reap what you sow. He is still showing compassion and offering aid to those people in Haiti. Look at all the places that are involved in witchcraft, voodoo and such. What are those places like? Has everyone forgotten New Orleans!?!? God is a loving God and will forgive them if they ask. He is also a just God. When you walk away from Him, you walk away from His grace, mercy and protection. They (as a country) brought this on themselves. I’m truly sorry this happened and hope those who need help over there find it.
16 x 7 bulls-eyes
This guy is a nutbag…seriously a pact with the devil? honestly how do these people get a public platform of any kind?
Pat Robertson gives all the credibility to TV Evagilists that they deserve. I have to believe that God has some “special” blessings to bestowe upon these parasites upon their final demise.
FYI, a**hole: I’ve been to Haiti and it’s perhaps the most religious place in the entire Christian world.
There are literally lineups outside the churches in Port-au-Prince, 7 days a week. Including times like Friday night at 11 p.m. — when it’s so crowded you can’t even get inside. Catholic churches, Protestant churches. You name it, they’re full.
So Mr. Robertson, if you’re determined to make this a religious question, you lamentable ignoramus, I fear you may not like the argument you’re ultimately making.
Et la expliqué ! Il a tout ! Napoleon pour III le responsable le tremblement Tsunamide terre au bien . Et le ? Dit le pas! Dit sur! Je c’estsais, voilá ça c’est faute de Jeanne d’Arc, Haïti pas.
Christ, concerning the ‘last days’:
“And great earthquakes shall be in divers places…” – Jesus Christ, Luke 21:11
Ruht @ The Secret Place
Rod January 13th, 2010 – 4:59 pm
What an idiot. Does the Lord work this way. No, never in the Bible has the Lord does this as a punishment. Well, Sodoom may be an exception. How do the poor people of this nation compare? Pat Robertson is a jerk. He should shut up.
Actually, yes, Robertson is pretty much accurate in saying that entire nations, at least those that primarily reject the true gospel, will be cursed in a variety of ways. Did you even watch the entire video and do a little research before you came out with your harsh comment?
Religion is a snakeskin and Man is the snake. Think about it
Rock on Pat! He’s the only person out there with the balls left to be “out there”. On a side note here is an interesting article related to Haiti’s “pact with the Devil” http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
Nice, Pat wants you to send “relief” money through CBN so that he can take HIS cut. If not, why not encourage people to send cash to the Red Cross?
I still remember when Pat was explaining what was happening during the 911 attacks. He was completely clueless whan the 2nd plane hit. He’s not qualified to offer opinions on most of the subjects he lectures on.
What a bozo!
j and j yep and that big man upstairs is gonna strike you down with lightening bolts right out of his fingers!!! I hear he does that kind of stuff!!. Can you $%^&*)**!! believe it?? and you are on his ^&%$ list!! Look out!
Wait a minute, I know why this happened… It’s George Bush’s fault.
How does this retard have a TV show and an actual following?!?!
Go away Pat! Just go away!!
What an embarassment for Christianity this clown is.
Mr. Robertson is right.
Bodhi,
God is a just God. In the same way that mankind cries out for justice
when we see injustice occur – think child molestation or rape – in the
same we need to see justice – God must punish Sin – otherwise, he would
not be just. He does not want there to be pain, suffering, hurt – but
because sin entered this world (through Adam and Eve eating the
forbidden fruit in the garden, God’s intended relationship with man was
destroyed. As a result, man sins, and pain and suffering are experienced
by all of us. The good news is, God has a plan to remedy this situation
– he sent his Son to pay the price for sin, so that we would not be
personally liable for the cost of the sin – that cost is Death, and when
Jesus Christ died on the cross, he paid that price. Then he rose again,
and ascended into Heaven. If you believe in Jesus Christ, and believe
that he died for your sins, you can be saved, and spend eternity living
with the Loving God who created you, in a place where there will be no
pain, no suffering, no carnage. Sounds good, right?
Well Lisa, nutjob yourself, do some research on Dutty Boukman. Apparently a pact was made with some sort of voodoo spirits. Did you bother to research before you opened your stupid mouth or not? If not, repent. Do a better job.
“A fool answers a question before he hears it.”
There appears to be lots of those type of fools on this board today.
Man of God though he calls himself, it’s as though Robertson has never read the Book of Job. As everyone is familiar, Job suffers and is afflicted terribly…the moral of the story as it were comes after. His friends come to comfort him, but then start telling Job, “You must be hiding some awful sin for God to afflict you like this. Better come clean.” To which Job insists he is not hiding some transgression. He is suffering in spite of the fact he’s blameless before God. His friends keep insisting he’s hiding something and Job keeps insisting he’s not. Finally God arrives and calls Job’s friends morons. The world doesn’t operate in some clockwork way in which bad things happen as punishment and good things happen as reward, He confirms. Bad things can happen to good people and vice versa; humans need to just trust that God knows what He’s doing. So when Pat Robertson always finds some punishment from God when tragedy strikes he looks like an idiot both to unbelievers and people who actually read their bibles.
For a gentleman that professes to have studied the bible, and to be intimately acquain
Wha-Wha-Whaaat!?!