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Imagine a “Stop Judification of America” movement!!!!!!! Geller is such a pig.
Gee, Terry, have you read the Koran? Try prophetofdoom dot net and it may become clear to you why Islam is a threat to our constitution, freedom of religion and civil rights for women and gays.
Why should Pamela move to Israel? You got something against Jews?
Is there any reason why Muslim people in the USA should not be allowed to escape from Islam with their lives?
You can’t “Stop Judification of America” anyway, because our culture is _based_ on the Jewish (and Christian and humanist) heritage. Islam as laid out in the Koran is hostile to and completely incompatible with our American culture (Americans don’t believe in pedophilia, polygamy, murdering people for changing their religion or refusing to accept a certain religion).
Terry, you are a TROLL.
Thought you could use some positive strokes Pam /hugs. Great job! Terry you can go collect your paycheck & run for the hills cause we’re coming for you & you will pay for your Treason acts against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!… /God Bless America! /curtsey
Pam Geller is a wonderful, hard-hitting journalist bent on telling the truth. Women like her will lead the world of Islam away from Sharia and into majesty.
Anyone who has read the Quran, as I have, knows that Mohammed was a Closet Christian, anyway. He supposedly heard Allah speak to him and then he would dictate what he heard to a number of scribes (because, some conjecture, he did not know how to write). Anyway, in the Quran Might Mo quotes Allah informing Mary, mother of Jesus, that she would be with child. Mary answered Allah by saying, “But I have never been with a man.” Mighty Mo reported that (almost as though he, himself, were Allah) “Allah is all powerful, all seeing and what he wills to be shall be…” and so Mary bore Jesus while a virgin according to the words of Allah and, obviously, Might Mo. There are other, similar passages showing his acceptance of Christianity. He later spoke to disavowing his belief because he couldn’t control the desert tribes with love and kindness, the kind of love and kindness revealed to the world through the acts, deeds, words and miracles of Jesus.
Pam Geller is one awesome woman! And Terry, she isn’t Jewish. What a troll.
Islam is the problem. She made her point very clearly. Obviously the Muslims exercise undue influence. How can the Muslims have an absurd advertisement about “peace” when they are the premier oppressors and persecutors in the world? It is not right. Islamification is the biggest problem the US is facing.
Oh yeah, and “Terry”: you are a pig.
Pamela Geller has been exposed at Loon Watch, read the news there about here.
Charles Martel
American is not Judeo Christian, this is something that neo cons cooked up. Our founding fathers were secular, deist, and the constitution separates state from religion.
Pretending otherwise wont’ change the facts, much as you wish it would. Either Geller supports America, or she should move to Israel. She is a fifth columnist.
Pamela Geller exposed!
Guyz, check out Loonwatch.com, the Islamophobia watchdog that monitors the Islamophobe like Geller. Geller’s agenda is to subvert US foreign policy for right wing Israeli’s. She does not care about the USA, but only that she can use the USA for her own agenda. To this end she revises history. Check out Loonwatch.com
Pamela Geller Watch: Sympathy with White Supremacy
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/pamela-geller-watch-sympathy-with-white-supremacy/
Pamela Geller: The Looniest Blogger Ever
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/08/pamela-geller-the-looniest-blogger-ever/
Pamela Geller Watch #4: Nazis Adopted Jihad
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/pamela-geller-watch-4-nazis-adopted-jihad/
Darren,
Everyone who reads Pam’s work knows she is not a liar.She seeks truth.She loves America and wants to keep the Constitution in tact, and the country Free. Therefore, don’t bother spinning your lies and trying to perpetuate others’.
Go read Pam’s archives and Jihadwatch.com and learn something solid and substantive.You are not doing very well in the Liberal propaganda department.
I see that Pam has scrubbed her earlier BLOG posts about her attempts to pull the “Islam: got questions?” bus ads.
I also see that she’s mostly whining about how “the media” won’t talk to her. Pam, since you think your BLOGs are the future of media (this goes for Breitbart, too) and you talk junk about the MSM every day, you shouldn’t be surprised and you shouldn’t really care if they don’t quote you.
Hey, thanks for that Loonwatch site, I was undecided about this situation but after reading seeing the hate record of Pam Geller, as it speaks for itself, I now see that such hatred and bigotry should be pissed on.
Pam geller, you are a nazi!
Charles Martel April 20th, 2010 – 2:07 am
Gee, Terry, have you read the Koran?
Have you read the Talmud?
You got something against Jews?
Does Pam have something against Muslims? Apparently so.
because our culture is _based_ on the Jewish (and Christian and humanist) heritage.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! What a loser. When is our holy day Saturday? When do we stop eating pork?
You are full of it like most J3w-apologists.
Darren, Please do some research before you comment on subjects you obviously know nothing about. Read the Koran and at least 3 of the Hadiths before you parrot some liberal teacher or blogger……..you have no idea what you are talking about. It is painfully obvious.
Bruce
BOTH JEWS AND MUSLIMS exercise excessive influence in this nation. One has about 3% or the population; the other, maybe 5%..yet we kowtow to both of their whims and are not supposed to comment in any negative way..’hate speech’??
How many Jews on the Supreme Court,in Obama’s administration,in Congress, in banking, in media? Why do I comment..because they work dilligently against what the majority of us want and believe..Jews are excessively liberal, and Muslims are excessive in just about everything..according to the Koran..Me..I don’t much care for either. That should tick some of you off…feel free.
Yes, my Christian faith was founded on Judaism..but they have whipped us along for decades about what is owed them for their sufferings..They have perfected the art of ‘victimhood’..blacks could learn from them. Maybe they should ask God why they have suffered..maybe they should look in the mirror. By the way, all races and religions have suffered.
The tragedy of this all is that people are so stupid that they buy into what either of them has to say. I am perplexed that blacks would choose to be Muslim..do you see any black Muslims ‘LIVING’in Saudi Arabia..no, because they are Arab Muslims and think blacks inferior.
Read, observe, and read some more.
Yes they just plaguerized our religion.
A lot of prople don’t know tha on purpose.So maybe people will know more this way.
Chuck, prove me wrong (if I am), but as I understand it the pretense of islam was begun around 400 years or so AD, so how did mighty mo make these statements about Mary giving birth as a virgin? Don’t get me wrong, just looking for factual info. Quoting the reverand wrong, godamn mighty mo & anyone who follows this moron…
Loonwatch??? Did you take a shower after? You believe that rot? You must be an Obama worshipper…
Islam needs to be countered unless you want your daughters wearing burka’s..
Well Terry, imagine jews committing honor killings, clitorectomies, decapitations, rioting,
or driving planes into buildings. Only in your leftist world view of moral relativism would radical islam and Judaism be equivalent. Try some moral clarity for a change. Be aware though, it requires thinking.
Islam MUST GO!
We all know that. Anyone with any sense.
Terry,
Jews or Christians will not cut your head off if you change your religion. To those who say America does not have a Judeo-Christian foundation does not know history.
Islam will not allow any dissent and that speaks volumes.
Go and live in an Islamic Republic and see how you like your freedom there Terry!
Dear friends,
I am an American but from India, born and brought up as a Christian (still am). I know first hand what muslims are. try livivng with them in a place where muslims are majority – They will create hell for you, forcibly conver you or even kill you.
Luckly in india majority religion is hinduism which have mostly passive followers. The hindu politicians too like their christian counter parts run to appease islam WITHOUT knowing the koran or mohammed. I prefer to call him MohaMad , by the way.
Read the koran – It is such a hatefull book full of lust, sex, child sex, killings and beheadings. Women are just object for men’s pleasure.
If you don’t believe these try living in Saudi Arabia or pakistan for a few years. You run to a non-muslim country with gratitude for all that has been granted to you.
Do you know the koran has something called taquia? it basically sanctions muslims to lie to non-muslims. Ever heard of Jizya? You got to pay a slave tax to live as a non-muslim in a muslim country (if your head still stays on your neck)
Islam is a cancer that has to be removed before it destroys civilized societies.
swamp yankee – well, Israel is guilty of genital mutilation, ethnic cleansing and terrorism. If we didn’t back them, we wouldn’t have the enemies we do.
abdul April 20th, 2010 – 9:21 am
To those who say America does not have a Judeo-Christian foundation does not know history.
“Judeo-Christian” makes as much sense as “Judeo-Muslim.”
Islam will not allow any dissent and that speaks volumes.
People are put in jail for questioning the history of WWII in Europe when the subject is the “Holocaust.”
Apparently the kind of society Terry would prefer to be living in has no rules or is like the wild wild west. It is a shame he fails to see the utility of the Ten Commandments which has no parallel in Sharia Law or any other religious edicts. All the way down to bearing false witness, if you have seen the movie The Stoning of Soraya M. you know how that goes in Islam’s theo-political societies such as Iran and Saudi Arabia. He disparages Christianity far more than Mohammad ever did!! Mohammad was a closet Christian and used what he knew about it to build his new and “final prophecies” if you want to call them that.
There is A LOT to be said for Muslims who know absolutely NOTHING about history as recorded by objective observers over the centuries – since they don’t have the privilege of translated versions into Arabic and most couldn’t read it if they did! So all of the information they obtain is at a minimum third-hand and infused with subjective opinion as presented through the imams/ clerics/mullahs, etc. One should never have to take his direction “through” another human in order to know God (or Allah). This is the reason why Islam is NOT a religion — because the relationship of the individual follower of Islam is not permitted that sanctity – nor does he leave well enough alone when it comes to others practicing the same . The ability to “live and let live” is lost on Muslims.
Genocide?
Gaza:
The new Egyptian report exposes the fraudulent picture on Gaza with hard facts and figures.
For instance, the oversupply of building materials has in fact depressed the market price because of an overabundance. If the buildings damaged in Israel’s operation Cast Lead in 2009 have not been rebuilt, it is not because of the ineffectual Israel embargo.
In fact, the Hamas rulers make a tidy profit from embargo: They impose duty on every item of goods “imported” via the tunnels which honeycomb the Egyptian-Gazan border area. This revenue not only keeps them in silk ties but also in power.
Their other main source of income is, unbelievably, the 200 million Israeli shekels (app. $50 m), Israel deposits in cash in Gazan banks every month.”
O those poor starving Gazans – with all the billions from the EU and US and UNO and Israel they are better off than those hundreds of thousands poor American people who are desperate and homeless.
Forgot to mention the new gold market in Gaza: The Egyptian authors count more than 1,000 tunnels, some broad enough for loaded trucks, through which a large array of basic and luxury goods flow to the markets and shops of the Palestinian enclave – and have done ever since the end of 2009. The latest hit in Gaza is the new Gold Market, which has been crowded with shoppers for trinkets, ornaments and glittering gifts since it opened. Because the markets of Gaza are swamped with an enormous variety of cheap luxury items, unavailable in many other Middle East countries, the tunnel managers have recently slowed down the traffic to support prices.
Gaza: 50 years ago 250.000 people, now a population of 1,5 million. Mostly moslems now, because of the Arab Christian persecution in Gaza.
Rexter…You really need to read up…Your idea that if the US didn’t back Israel we wouldn’t have these problems, is very faulty…
If Israel was destroyed, if the ‘Palestinians’ got the whole land, if every Taliban and Al-Qaeda were killed, jihad against the west will continue…In fact, it would be intensified…Muslims are instructed by Allah, by means of the Quran, to fight dis-believers (kufr, Kuffar, kufir)’until’ everyone in the world worships Allah, Quran 8:39…Since ‘until’ can never be achieved, it means perpetual warfare…
I personally don’t care for a Religion that was started by an illiterate Murdering Child Molester named Mohammed. How can Muslims call Jesus a Great Prophet and then deny everything he said and did! Hypocrites! The Muslims are just mad because they are God’s Chosen People. I remember Esau getting angry at Jacob for Esua giving his Birth Right to Jacob! Heathens!
Those who Bless Israel will be Blessed and those who curse Israel will be Cursed.
Kafira – Muslims believe in the 10 commandments but your attempt to smear them is noted.
Duh_swami April 20th, 2010 – 10:41 am
Rexter…You really need to read up…Your idea that if the US didn’t back Israel we wouldn’t have these problems, is very faulty…
It is fact.
Muslims are instructed by Allah, by means of the Quran, to fight dis-believers (kufr, Kuffar, kufir)’until’ everyone in the world worships Allah, Quran 8:39
Then why aren’t they attacking Rome?
Many Palestinians were Christians – it was the formation of the UN that destroyed them.
Freedom April 20th, 2010 – 10:46 am
Those who Bless Israel will be Blessed and those who curse Israel will be Cursed.
Ah, more from the theocrats of the West. Israel was destroyed 2000 years ago so it may apply to that, but not the modern UN state with the same name (chosen in order to manipulate and control you as you have shown yourself.)
“Then why aren’t they attacking Rome”?
They are busy attacking other places at the moment
One of Islams goals is to take Rome…They are just not doing it according to your time schedule…
Where do you get it that Muslims believe in the 10 commandments? You must have made it up…
It would be hard to get more un-Islamic than that…Muslims have the Quran, Sunnah and Sira…Islam is a perfect religion (just ask em)…It would be blasphemous to believe in the 10 commandments…All Muslims have to answer to Allah, and Allah hates blasphemy…
when the illegitamite governments of the west are out of office, governments should be helping people to leave this murderous cult.
Rexter…
…Islam will not allow any dissent and that speaks volumes….
“People are put in jail for questioning the history of WWII in Europe when the subject is the “Holocaust”.”
Maybe you don’t know that the penalty for dissent ‘apostasy’ in Islam is punishable by death…All the Islamic schools of Jurisprudence agree…
Also insulting Mohammad can get you killed…
duh_swami April 20th, 2010 – 10:59 am
They are busy attacking other places at the moment
The US is not a theocracy so the religious argument doesn’t hold water. If not Rome then at least Brazil or something. But they aren’t.
Where do you get it that Muslims believe in the 10 commandments? You must have made it up…
From this:
6. Muslims not only respect the Old Testament and the New Testament, they also believe in them. And a person cannot be a Muslim if he or she does not believe in them as the Books of God.
So, really, they are more like Christians than Jews are.
swamp yankee
You’re very ignorant, honour killings and cliteroctomies, predate Islam, and are practiced by Christians, Jews, and other societies too. They are a CULTURAL PRACTICE not religious. Check out Wikipedia for stats, ARab and Druze Christians, comit honour killings, Greek and Russian Christians too, Pamela Geller whitesashes the sins of Jews and pretends all sins comitted are Islamic.
Mohammed the Prophet did not circumsise his daughters. Ask Pamela Geller about Jewish sexual crimes in Israel, incest, child rape, polygamy and Judaism permits sex from age three. Check Wikipedia for sources,
Learn O ignorant one.
Rexter…6. Muslims not only respect the Old Testament and the New Testament, they also believe in them. And a person cannot be a Muslim if he or she does not believe in them as the Books of God.
You drank the kool aid…That statement is what is called Taqiyya, it is false and designed to fool people like you…Where does that persons taqiyya laden ‘opinion’ come from? Certainly not the Quran…If it can’t be justified by the Quran it does not exist…That’s the Islamic way…But I already know that you are lacking in Islamic knowledge…If you had any you could see right through that statement #6…
The US is not a theocracy so the religious argument doesn’t hold water.
Not for the US it doesn’t because the US like you is blind to the facts…
Religion means every thing to Muslims…Allah/God to you, maybe, instructed Muslims how to conduct themselves by means of directions in holy scripture…That means that there is little that a pious, sharia following Muslim can do that is not religious…All jihad, all Islamic terrorism, all of it, is religious based and designed to remove all obstacles in the way of the spread of Islam…That includes the secular US, UK and most of Europe…
Muslims put up a bus ad campaign promoting Islam and encouraging people to join Islam. They claim to be a religion of peace. They claim that there is no compulsion in their religion. Then when an opposing viewpoint ad that invites people who want to leave Islam to seek support at Refugefromislam.com goes up on the same buses, Muslims’ supposed number one “civil rights” organization supporting them in America (CAIR) puts a call into complain and the ads are pulled.
Not equality under the law.
Not freedom of speech. (No dissenting opinions.)
Not respectful of the rights of non-Muslims.
Which part don’t you get?
And BTW, Darren, it is obvious that you are a young man in your twenties and a product of our public school system. Congratulations! You are the poster child for post-American ignorance, with a big mouth. Challenge to you: get outside your comfort zone and do a little research. You embarrass yourself (and reveal yourself unwittingly,) by spewing the same tired anti-American claptrap that your professors brainwashed you into thinking is correct. You will find if you actually open a book that what you are saying is nonsense and can be easily disputed by anyone who understands American history. Try an easy exercise: do a Google search for quotes from George Washington, John Adams, Patrick Henry, even Thomas Jefferson, and you will see that your belief that America was not founded on Christian values doesn’t hold water.
If opening a book is too much trouble I would recommend the excellent miniseries John Adams. You cannot miss the references to God and Divine Providence in the everyday lives of the Adams Family and their contemporaries. Good luck and remember, the truth will set you free.
I’m glad “DUH” swami brought up the important notion of The Altaqquiyyiah(sp?), which basically means that a TRUTHTELLER doesn’t have to believe anything said by Muslims (or about Islam) if it doesn’t fit the TRUTHTELLER worldview (Weltansschauung) of noble Judeo-Christians who are the same and always noble (let’s forget 2000 years of antisemitism) against Islam which is Teh Barbarian Horde.
The ignorance of the postings on this page is staggering. In the first place the “infidels” that Mohammed refers to are NOT the Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (another Monotheistic sect) but are the polytheists who we vying for power in Mecca when Islam was first established. THEY were the main threat and when Mohammed “cleansed” the Ka’ba he removed “pagan” idols from the site. Jews and Christians were considered by Muslims to be “People of the Book” and, as such protected. This has been done throughout history if you care to look it up. In fact, historically Jews have fared far better under Muslims than under Christians who never seemed to lose an opportunity to expel, torture, or burn them at the stake for whatever natural or perceived disaster occurred. THAT is a fact.
Another important point is that Mohammed was considered by his followers to be blessed by God with the ability to communicate both eloquently and with subtlety. As such a lot of his teachings and sermons contain “hidden messages” and double meanings that are supposed to inspire his followers to think and reason. It is said that Moses performed miracles of a physical nature, Jesus performed miracles of a medical nature, and Mohammed performed miracles of a verbal nature. Taking an isolated passage from the Koran, roughly translating is into English, and then saying, “see…look what ‘they’ believe”, is not only wrong, it is inaccurate. If you cannot read the Koran in Arabic, you cannot truly understand the text and therefore are not in a position to comment on its content.
To the envious poeple above, no religion has gifted or enriched humanity more than Islam. It’s the religion of science and knowledge. check out muslimheritage.com and the links below. Stop being jealous.
How Islamic inventors changed the world
From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life. As a new exhibition opens, Paul Vallely nominates 20 of the most influential- and identifies the men of genius behind them http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article350594.ece
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How Islam has kept us out of the ‘Dark Ages’
http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/S/science/society/islamicscience.html
Timeline of Islamic science and technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Islamic_science_and_technology
List of Muslim scientists and philosophers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists_and_philosophers
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Muslim scientists correctly calculated the circumference of the globe in the tenth century. Muslim musicians introduced the guitar and musical notation to the Europe. And Muslim philosophers invented the scientific method and paved the way for the Enlightenment. At the dawn of the Renaissance, Christian Europe was wearing Persian clothes, singing Arab songs, reading Spanish Muslim philosophy and eating off Mamluk Turish brassware. This is the story of how Muslims taught Europe to live well and think clearly. It is the story of how Islam created the Modern World.
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Islam needs to grow up.
Islam religon of Science? Cannot understand koran if you don’t understand Arabic?
hahahahahaha
Arabic is just another human language. Read Koran – MohaMad killed Sofia’s father, brother and sister in front of her and had sex with her there itself. MohaMad raped 6 year old Aiysha. MohaMad said “Sun setts in a muddy pond’, “Sperm originates from kidneys”, “Bones are formed before flesh in a fetus” etc etc.
Numerous mistakes in sex book koran. Are you not ashamed to follow a child sex abuser and womananizer? Oh ! and MohaMad had 23 wives + sex slaves + Child sex and promises sex with 72 virgines in heaven?
Will your muslim women also get 72 virgin men for sex in heaven?
PARDON my language but i am sick SICK of muslims Taqquiya and white washing of MohaMad …
What the friggin heck is going on, on this board? Where the heck did all of these Islamic sympathizers come from? Go live in Saudi Arabia you dumbasses, and write a dissertation on your experience before you DARE lecture Americans about anything. Dumbasses.
I’m sorry, Denise, I wouldn’t want to let a few facts get in the way of your bigotry. You really don’t know what you are talking about, do you? Do you have anything intelligent to offer to the discussion or do you just want to vent like the rest? If ignorance is bliss, then you must be very happy.
And Sameera is correct. We owe Muslims a great debt in protecting and building upon the Greek and other ancient cultures in the fields of literature, science, mathematics, and medicine. They were preserving while Christians were destroying. Look it up.
Thomas,
I don’t expect someone like you to understand Arabic. You seem to have difficulty with English. Is it a second language for you?
Did you bother to open any of the links that Sameera presented? You and Denise should get together. Neither one of you seem to want to let something like a fact get in the way of your prejudices.
Keep laughing…
MohaMAD was a peodphile, schizophrenic, lunatic that would be heavily medicated and placed in a rubber room if he existed today. You have to see that Islam is the religion of satan and only followers of satan would call themselves Muslim. To lie to a non-believer is expected so why would ANYONE believe a Muslim about anything. Go a thousand years without cutting off anyones head and then I’ll start to believe Muslims are not all raving, homicidal maniacs, but we all know you won’t. In fact, if you could find out who I am you would try to kill me for my opinions and that says everything about you peace loving fools.
Liberals HATE free speech! Screw the dirty low life dogs of the anti-American socialist paradigm
if mohamet existed today his name would be Osama bin-laden
Gosh Sameera, all those amazing things that you have attributed to Islam and still Muslim women cannot go out of the house without permission from the men in their family. And then there is that thing about honor killing those same women if the men in the family feel ashamed about something the women supposedly did.
If Islam is such a hot religion why worry about a bus ad that encourages people who want to leave it to get some help? Why are you threatened by those ads if Islam, as you say, “gifted or enriched humanity more than” any other religion? Something doesn’t add up here. All those dead Muslim girls who didn’t want to marry the middle aged men their Muslim dads chose for them tell a very different story.
Oh and Sameera, do tell us why Egyptian Muslims have such a penchant for slicing off five year old girls’ private parts. Are Muslim men so insecure that they are threatened by a five year old’s clitoris?
Isabella and the other people here who commented on cliterorctimies. they are not islamic and the practice predates Islam. cHRISTIAN JEWISH, HINDU, SIKH, DRUZE, AND OTHERS COMIT THEM TOO. The egyptian figures are exaggerated, it’s a rural cultural practice not a religious one. Check Wikipedia. Same with honour killings, they’re not Islamic and they go on in Chrstian , jewish, druze, hindu, sikh, communities too
EXAMPLES OF JEWISH HONOUR CRIMES
Play on ‘wife murder’ amongst Israeli Ethiopians
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1154525892570&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Wife murder, unknown among the Beta Israel in Ethiopia, has become a problem of crisis proportions in the migr Ethiopian community in Israel. While Ethiopians make up just one percent of the population, 25% of women murdered by their husbands or intimate partners over the past decade were Ethiopian. Of the last 18 women killed, seven were Ethiopian – an even higher percentage.
Jerusalem Post ^ | May 8, 2005 | Yaakov Katz and Mati Wagner
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1399287/posts
Police said Sunday they had collected sufficient evidence to press charges against Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar’s wife, daughter and son in connection with the alleged kidnapping and beating of a 17-year-old haredi youth romantically involved with Amar’s 18-year-old daughter.
EXAMPLES OF CHRISTIAN HONOUR CRIMES
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
Honor killings are more common among poor rural Muslim communities than
urban ones. Arab Christians living within parts of the Near East, such as
sections of Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority, sometimes carry out the crime as well
Palestinian Christian Honor Killing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4522465.stm
Murdered in name of family honour
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/jun/23/israel
But the next weekend, as Faten watched a Boy Scouts parade from the balcony of her Ramallah home, the 22-year-old Christian Palestinian was dragged into the living room and bludgeoned to death with an iron bar. Her father was arrested for the murder. Faten Habash’s murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan.
Women’s rights group: Arab ‘honor’ killings claim 9 victims in 2005
By Itim
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=649254&contrassID=2&subContrassID=15&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
Shfaram’s Samar Hasan, 23, was allegedly murdered by her father and uncles, who are Christian, because she was living with a Muslim man.
EXAMPLES OF DRUZE HONOUR CRIMES
Shfaram official probed for ‘honor killing’ comment
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961226794&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Apr. 26, 2006 0:51
On October 22, a Druse woman was killed by three of her relatives for
supposedly conducting an affair with a Muslim man.
Miss Israel finalist quits after family’s honour killing plot
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article1489930.ece
the first Druze to compete in the pageant — was threatened with death,
allegedly by two uncles and other men from her village who accused her of
disgracing the family name with promiscuous behaviour.
I don’t know this woman, never heard of her before. I don’t care what she has written or done before. This is RIGHT. We americans cannot stand still while this “religion” tries to take over our country. They don’t believe in the separation of powers. If they seek to grow even more in America is to transform our way of life.
Beyond the politics on this matter is their conquest mentality. I believe most americans will prefer to die fighting it before living under an Islamic regime. At least I do.
Permisive liberal thinking is what brought us to where we are today; we keep drawing the line again and again and losing ground every time. The way I see it, if we keep doing it there will be nothing to defend the day we decide to stand our ground. Wake up America, Please.
You are on crack, Airwick. Do us all a favor and read, “A God Who Hates” by Wafa Sultan, and Syrian woman doctor who will tell you alllllll about Allah and his merry band of devoted perverts and misogynists. While you’re at it, pick up, “Londonistan” by Melanie Phillips. And…don’t forget. Relocate to an Arab country and write that dissertation. BTW, I *KNOW* people who have lived in Saudi Arabia and I know an Iranian man whose brother was killed by the mullahs who took over Iran during the revolution. Talk to anyone who is HONEST about Islam and you’ll see the truth. You are full of politically correct BS. You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you between the eyes. If you think Islam is so wonderful, get your dumb ass over to Saudi Arabia, pronto.
Oh yeah….go rent, “The Stoning Of Sorayah M”. You’ll see how great Islam is and the society and “justice” it cultivates.
sWamp yankee, Airwick and Missouri,
Child marriages were common in every culture at that time. you’re very ignorant, they still are today in many societies, aren’t 12 yr old girls getting pregrant in the usa? See wikipedia for legal marriage age, till recent times nearly all married in childhood.
Till recent times, Judaism allowed marriage from age 3, so you’re really stupid. Judaism was Jesus’ religion too, so if you’re Christian, you’re a plain hypocrite, and an envious one.
Check the two Jewish learning sites below, the last one is a charity for raped women
http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=573&o=2485
In ancient (and not so ancient) times however, marriage was often-times celebrated at a rather young age. Although we do not follow this dictum, technically speaking, a girl may be betrothed the moment she is born, and married at the age of three.2 A boy may betroth and marry at the age of thirteen.3
http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/marryingkohain.html
Throughout the Torah, and specifically for these laws, for the act of sexual intercourse to have consequence, the female must be at least three years old and the male must be at least nine years old. Therefore, any molestation of a girl under three years of age has no effect on her status, and she is considered to be a virgin. Similarly if the molester was below the age of nine, the intercourse does not count and she is considered a virgin.
These laws are given by Hashem in the Torah. They are not designed as punishments or insults. They are a recognition of the special holiness of a Cohen.
Isabella,
Please try to get your facts straight. Female genital circumcision (FGC) is a cultural practice and not necessarily a religious one. In fact this procedure predates both Christianity and Islam. The first documeted example of FGC is from a papyrus from 163 B.C. that mentions girls in Egypt undergoing circumcision and it is widely accepted to have originated in Egypt and the Nile valley at the time of the Pharaohs hundreds of years before Muhammed was born. Evidence from mummies has shown evidence of the practice as well, confirming that it is an ancient practice.
As far as present day Egypt is concerened, “Egypt’s Ministry of Health and Population has banned all forms of FGC cutting since 2007. The ministry’s order declared it is ‘prohibited for any doctors, nurses, or any other person to carry out any cut of, flattening or modification of any natural part of the female reproductive system’. Islamic authorities in the nation also stressed that Islam opposes female circumcision. The Grand Mufti of Egypt, Ali Gomaa, said that it is prohibited.” So, you see, Muslims don’t necessarily agree with this practice either.
Now why is it proper for Christians to chop up the privates of little boys? You don’t seem to have a problem with THAT, do you?
Rexter Posted the FILLOWING TOTAL LIE!
“swamp yankee – well, Israel is guilty of genital mutilation, ethnic cleansing and terrorism. If we didn’t back them, we wouldn’t have the enemies we do.”
ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN GUILTY OF THE ABOVE LIE!
REXTER is among the VILEST of JEW-HATERS ,whether he be a LEFTY LOON or a FAR RIGHT LOON.
Denise,
Try reading a textbook instead of propaganda.
Here you all get a lesson on science from the omniscient book. Watch to the end and you will be convinced beyond all reasoning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc
Robert4:
Pamela DOES NOT SCRUB her site.
PAMELA STANDS BEHIND THE FACTS SHE PRINTS.
Pamela has more Journalistic Ability and Integrity in her little finger than the LEFT-WING CORRUPTED MSM C-O-M-B-I-N-E-D.
When Pamela prints something, SHE HAS RESEARCHED IT!
Oh,and Robert4, fyi,By NOT QUOTING Pamela, the MSM CONCEALS WHAT THEY’RE NOT DOING, which is Watching Out for the American People.
If ONE COURAGEOUS and TALENTED LADY has to be on FREEDOM’S FRONT LINE, doing what a “Free Press” MSM SHOULD BE DOING, than it’s OBVIOUS that the Left-Wing DOMINATED MSM is now the “Quisling” 5th Column and not the 4th Estate.
America and Freedom HAVE BEEN BLESSED to have Pam Geller ON THAT WALL for us.
Rampant (Islamic) fascism in Muslim countries as well as the spread of Islamic imperialism and the march of Sharia around the world are the enemies of freedom (religious AND secular), human rights, democratic principles and progressive values.
Everyone, including and especially those that consider themselves liberals and progressives, need to open their eyes, observe and follow the mounds of (mounting) evidence out there on Islam-borne violence, brutality and oppression, and work to curb Islamism (while, at the same time, not hating or chastising ordinary Muslims living normal and peaceful lives) everywhere. Liberals and progressives should also support democracy uprisings in Muslim countries.
Useful links
1. List of Islamic Terror Attacks (a must see): http://tinyurl.com/list-of-islamic-terror-attacks
2. Jihad Watch: http://www.jihadwatch.org/
3. Dan Pipes: http://www.danielpipes.org/
4. Islam Watch: http://www.islam-watch.org/
5. Pam Geller: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
6. Tawfik Hamid: http://www.tawfikhamid.com/
7. Logan’s Warning: http://loganswarning.com/
8. Ali Sina: http://www.faithfreedom.org/
9. The anti-jihad RESISTANCE: http://www.antijihadresistance.com/index.html
10. Stop islamization of America (SIOA) on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110841015612178
11. Wiki Islam: http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yes, it’s true, Islamism DOES pose a threat to the freedoms of your future generations, if not your own down the road.
Rampant (Islamic) fascism in Muslim countries as well as the spread of Islamic imperialism and the march of Sharia around the world are the enemies of freedom (religious AND secular), human rights, democratic principles and progressive values.
Everyone, including and especially those that consider themselves liberals and progressives, need to open their eyes, observe and follow the mounds of (mounting) evidence out there on Islam-borne violence, brutality and oppression, and work to curb Islamism (while, at the same time, not hating or chastising ordinary Muslims living normal and peaceful lives) everywhere. Liberals and progressives should also support democracy uprisings in Muslim countries.
Yes, it’s true, Islamism DOES pose a threat to the freedoms of your future generations, if not your own down the road.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks (a must see): http://tinyurl.com/list-of-islamic-terror-attacks
See for more links: http://islamismtrail.blogspot.com/2010/04/islamism.html
EU WEI,
If that’s what you believe you either don’t visit her site very often or you’re her “ideal reader”, someone who is willing to “lap up” whatever she serves in today’s “trough”. I’ve been visiting her site for years and the comedic value of her contradictions (try reading her posts on “net neutrality” alongside whinging about how she doesn’t show up as high on the list of Google results as she would have liked…)
And why is it that her comments approach the 100% agreement range on her site, but on a site like this that has an honest approach to free speech and comments, she is criticized 50% of the comments?
Sameera, Algebra was invented in India by 5th/6th centuries (AD) (well before Al-Khwarzmi’s time of 9th century AD, who is often incorrectly credited with “inventing algebra.”)
That should be seen within the overall context of India’s contributions to mathematics, languages and science during the 800BC-1600AD period: the decimal number system, number zero as part of that system, arithmetic/computational methods using decimal numbers, algebraic computations such as solving quadratic and linear equations, astronomical calculations, among other things. Early development of Sanskrit in India, along with Panini’s grammar for it c. 500 BC, possibly influenced the evolution of Indo-European (and other Indo-X) languages.
Indian mathematics was transmitted to the by-then Islamic worlds (Arabia and Persia) by Indian scholars visiting there, and the works they brought were translated by mathematicians such as Al-Khwarzmi and Al-Kindi. Please read the following about how the transmission took place:
Brahmagupta, and the influence on Arabia
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Projects/Pearce/Chapters/Ch8_3.html
From
Indian Mathematics: Redressing the balance
Ian G Pearce
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Projects/Pearce/index.html
Also, while most societies have had their own traditional medicines (India’s Ayurveda, which predates most of them, probably influenced the others to some extent), modern medicine should probably be credited to post-Renaissance scientific revolution in Europe.
Finally, it is instructive to see how Islam rampaged India during the same middle ages:
Islam’s Indian slave trade
http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3312:islams-indian-slave-trade-part-i-in-islams-genocidal-slavery-&catid=170&Itemid=67
Rexter is obviously a liberal, he is so protective of the peaceful religon of Islam. I hope he is not gay like these two Muslims (http://gentleislam.com/pics/IranExecutesGayTeens.jpg) or a woman having sex outside of marriage like this woman (http://www.ziggy.com.au/islam%20sharia%2001.jpg). Or this woman who went to church (http://gentleislam.com/pics/Islam_beats_woman_for_going_to_Church.jpg). Jews and Christians and Hindus don’t do this. Only Muslims.
I am an Arab who immigrated to this country about 30 years ago, I still visit the middle east on a yearly basis, and let me tell you, the people that think Islam is not a threat are living in Lala land, wake-up people, start a revolution of thought, stand up and look around Islamist would kill you just because you have different beliefs, those that seek freedom and liberalism wont know what hit them until its too late… If you think Islam is such a progressive religion, what are they afraid of, ask yourself that, why can’t people choose their belief without the fear of being killed, why are they so insecure that you can’t preach in their country, build churches, synagogues etc… ask yourself that before you put down people like Pam.
I beg you to wake up to this threat….. your kids life depend on it, our way of life depend on it, our country depends on you…
the muslims should be blown back into the 6th century, IMO.
All: If you hate the Jews, you are one with the Nazis and Muslims — not America’s friends, or mine.
Thank God for Pamela Geller and others like her! America is being invaded by a political ideology masquerading as a religion.
It is not the people, but the ideology, that is the problem. Read the Qur’an. You’ll see. Remember that it is not arranged chronologically.The first ones are Meccan, which preach peace. Then, Mohammad received power in Medina, and the tenor of the revelations became jihad/war. In chapter 2:106, the Qur’an plainly indicates, “Such of our revelation as we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof.” That means that anything revealed is struck from the record if another verse is later revealed that contradicts it.The last two suras “revealed” are 9 an 114. The verse of the sword is 9:5, and against the People of the Book is 9:29. They abrogate all the nice verses.
I can see that the rumblings for a war with Islam are already brewing – and that the Jihadists will have a cadre of useful “white” idiots to join them when stealth jihad becomes open warfare! If anyone doubts that we are now, once again in the history of Islam vs. the West (and Civilization), at war with Islam, Jihad and Shar’ia law, then that person needs a healthy dose of reality check!! I never seriously studied Islam growing up and taking only a few history course (only one on World History, sorry now to admit); but ever since 9-11, I’ve been on a crash course – and it’s obvious that our temporary victory over the heathen Muslims was only temporary: They’re now at the gates of every country in the world, banging on the door, crashing through it or already in power. “We have a DEFINITE problem, Houston!!” And although all these modern-day Nazi warriors of Islam are really carrying out jihad in the name of political power & control, the rest of the Dhimmi world thinks it’s just a religion. NO, it’s a total way of life; but unlike monks in a monastery, it’s a way of life that these bloodthirsty misogynists want to force upon the whole world. They’ve already conquered huge land masses, countries and ignorant populations throughout the Mid East, parts of Asia and parts of Africa; now they’re working inexorably on Europe. Glad I’ll not be around when the Islamifornication of Europe is complete.
Pam Geller, you are a welcome voice of Reason, Logic & Truth – long may you live and bear witness!!
With all due respect to Ms. Geller, I don’t think that she or anyone else has the legal standing to succeed against Miami-Dade Transit (MDT), especially since the contract was not signed with MDT. The case should be tossed very quickly for lack of standing.
The lawsuit figures to be a waste of time for all involved, as I see it getting tossed because the contract was not signed with Miami-Dade Transit, but with CBS Outdoor, which sold and pulled the spot. In addition, as has been found out numerous times in NYC, free speech is not absolute, not even on public transit buses. The other defense that could be used is that the buses were due in for a repainting.
The issue there is based on a purported fatwa that I don’t recall was ever verified, and could have been written by a friend of Rifqa Bary’s (an Ohio judge apparently didn’t believe it was real). In the USA, it is possible to leave Islam without fearing for one’s life.
AIRWICK or hotair or whatever,
What difference does it make if English is my second or third or first language? You have either not read the koran (in english or arabic or spanish) or you read the koran and chose to believe child rape,sex with 23 wives, jew killing and looting by MohaMad was and is holy.
Now think about it…
You are revering a child molester – Imagine 56 year old MohaMad raping 6 year old Aiysha. or MohaMad having sex with Sofia the same night after killing her husband, father and brother hinself in front of her?
Disgusting MohaMad.
In thousands of years of Hinduism, Buddishim, Judaism, Christianity or for that matter any other religion, there have NEVER been such a disgusting person revered as a prophet or godman. In fact MohaMad DID NOT predict anything. he just vomited judo/Christian stories he heard from travellers and missionaries.
He must be the first “prophet” to ‘predict’ the past…
My advise to you is to leave islam and become a normal human…
Thomas,
My advice to you is to mind your own business and let others choose their own beliefs. That is what America and American values is all about. The idea that Muslims (with a very small percentage of the population) are going to take over and install Sharia Law in the United States is profoundly silly and has absolutely no basis. They have difficulty instituting Sharia Law in Muslim nations where they ARE the majority. What makes you think that they can do it here? In short, there IS NO threat of a “Muslim takeover” here…so why don’t you and the other Muslim-haters relax?
The Christian backlash is coming so don’t worry…..you have provoked us enough and Pamela is our honoured guest and more forever. The time will come.
Airwick, Sharia has made inroads in Europe.
Mathias Rohe, University of Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany ( http://cmes.hmdc.harvard.edu/files/Mathias.Rohe_.lecture.pdf )
“Sharia has entered European parliaments, administrations and courts: In several
European states legislation on Islamic norms concerning clothing, slaughtering, and Family law practices has recently passed or still is on the way.
In a recent and hopefully singular case a judge in Frankfurt/Germany refused to grant legal aid for a wife from Moroccan origin who wanted to obtain an immediate divorce because she was severely beaten by her Moroccan husband (according to the legal hardship clause). The judge in her reasoning said that, according to the provision in Qur’ān Sūrah 4, 34, beating wives was common in the culture of origin of the parties, and therefore denied a case of hardship.
Sharia’s Inroads in Europe – Italian Court: ‘Beaten Up for “Her Own Good”‘ ( http://www.hudsonny.org/2009/03/sharias-inroads-in-europe-italian-court-beaten-up-for-her-own-good.php )
One area especially touched by this phenomenon is the judicial system in Europe. Two recent cases in Italy and France are particularly troublesome. First, in Italy, three members of a Brescia-based Maghrebi family (father, mother and eldest son) were accused of beating up and sequestering their daughter/sister Fatima because she wanted to live a “Western” life.
the Italian Supreme Court of Cassation dismissed it and ruled in favor of the charged parties.
Indeed in one very publicized case, last June, a French judge ruled in favor of a Muslim man who wanted the annulment of his marriage because his wife turned out not to be a virgin.
It’s only a matter of time before Muslim groups will start asking for bringing such wonders of Sharia to America.
Airwick,
Not sure how you reached such conclusions as Islam and muslims are harmless. Probably you are one. (Forgive me if you are not but I have seen many, many muslims disgusing as christians/jews/hindus to advance their cause – Taqquiya).
You must have,by now, read the reply by ‘reply2airwick’. I hope that would open your eyes. Did you read the comment from an Arabic immigrant about Islam?
Why do you assume you know better than people who have experienced first hand (like I have) the Islamic governmnet, attitude to non-muslims and injustice all supported by and advocated in the koran?
After the WTC bombing (1993), 9/11, Nidal Hasan’s massacre in Fort Hood, the various attempted assaults (such as that by the underpants bomber
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab), and the creepy spread of Islam in the prison system (resulting in cr@p like this: April 14, 2010. Chicago Muslim murders four family members: had been clutching Qur’an and saying it told him to kill http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/chicago-muslim-murders-four-family-members-had-been-clutching-quran-and-saying-it-told-him-to-kill.html ), as well as CAIR’s aggressive push since Obama became President, the writing on the wall. It is way past time for all Americans to wake up to it.
Thomas Kurian and From Missouri
Have you read the Old Testament that is the basis for Chrisitanity and Judaism? Neither Christian nor Jews can critisie Mo the Moslem Prophet, if they do they are hypocrites
All your pathetic arguements are rebutted by other members, Mo the Moslem prophet (probably a disgruntled Jew like Jesus was) is not as bad as moses in terms of murder, genocide, peodophilia,moses was worse than hitler, so if wanna critisse Mo while praising “judo christian” you look like an ignorant spitefilled idiot,
read the website Evil Bible , the jewish prophets make Mo look like a harmless kid
it makes the koran look like kids play, Jesus was a jew, why do you call Mo a pedophile when Chrisitaniy based on Judaismallows sex with girls from girls age 3?
the truth is judaism gave birth to christianty islam, and it alone should be criticised not its offspring
Thomas Kurian and From Missouri
Have you read the Old Testament that is the basis for Chrisitanity and Judaism? Neither Christian nor Jews can critisie Mo the Moslem Prophet, if they do they are hypocrites
All your pathetic arguements are rebutted by other members, Mo the Moslem prophet (probably a disgruntled Jew like Jesus was) is not as bad as moses in terms of murder, genocide, peodophilia,moses was worse than hitler, so if wanna critisse Mo while praising “judo christian” you look like an ignorant spitefilled idiot,
read the website Evil Bible evilbible.com, the jewish prophets make Mo look like a harmless kid
it makes the koran look like kids play, Jesus was a jew, why do you call Mo a pedophile when Chrisitaniy and Judaism r the same?
the truth is judaism gave birth to christianty islam, and it alone should be criticised not its offspring
Dear OldTestament,
Where in the old or new testament or for that matter any religious book (Hindu/Sikh/Parsi) do you have a person claiming to be a prophet and keeps 23 wives+ sex slaves and RAPES a 6 year old CHILD when he was 56 years old?
Show me one prophet that ‘predicted’ the past other than MohaMad.
Where is child sex sanctioned in christianity or Judaism or any other religion other than islam? if a Christian does that he is condemned and punished. Check this – http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/04/09/yemen.child.bride.death/index.html
Do you know what islamic paradise is, as explained in “holy’ koran?
Do you know of any religion other than Islam that commands its followers to forcebly covert or kill other religion followers?
You must try living in a muslim majority country. Try Saudi Arabia first. As soon as you land in Saudi Airport you HAVE TO throw your bible into the garbage bin and cover your wife or mother in black. But don’t worry you can have sex with children and sex slaves.
And finally show me Jews/Christians/Hindus blowing up planes, schools and shouting THANK YOU Jesus/Yahowa/Krishna …
What is the common problem is Kashmir, Chechnya, Philipines, Afganistan, Israel, USA, 911, Londonstan? Muslims …
Thomas,
I am curious as to how a few isolated cases in Europe where a judge ruled in favor of a man based on what that judge perceived to be the contract that was established by a couple has to do with “imposing Sharia Law” on the rest of us. Can you give me an example of where a NON Muslim was subjected to a similar ruling? How does this affect the rest of us who are not Muslims? How is this any of our business?
There are plenty of passages that you can pull from the Bible that show approval of stoning, slavery, and the subjugation of women. Would you suggest that because they are there that Christians all support these practices?
Airwick,
Perhaps we may have to discuss this personally via email so as not to flood this comments section?
Christianity does NOT approve stoning, slavery or the subjugation of women. You might have heard how Jesus saved the women about to be stoned by Jews.
The one case of Sharia law was stated by some one as an example. there are thousands; Do you know in UK,now, Sharia law is approved in courts? Do you know in UK, throwing shoes (even hundreds) by muslims during protests has become not punishable by law ! Do you know the school in Minessotta, funded by American tax payers, teach Sharia law and islamic supremacy? What about the school in Virginia (saudi funded) that teaches Christians and jews must be killed or converted?
Have you heard of the plight of Rifqa Bary – the teen who converted to christianity- in USA? the father who “honor killed” daughters in texas, another in canada?
Probably you are not aware as I was few years back. For a start please try,with an open mind, reading http://www.jihadwatch.org. it mearly reports such news around the world or maybe http://www.atlasshrugs.com.
These muslim mentality cannot be understood by a typical westerner immediatly. You have to experience it first hand to know them. They do not think in a civilized manner.
Thomas Kurian
You’re quite the hypocrite, evilbible.com gives clear examples of Moses commands to take little girls into sexual slavery. The Rabbi’s in the Jewish sites one of the posters posted above give clear examples. Have you read the Old Testament or Talmud? Did you see the links above, Judaism sanctioning sex from age 3? This came from Moses, David and Solomon had countless sex slaves, David the forefather of Jesus
That is Judeo Christian for you. Disgusting more than Mohamet.
The clear examples are there, you’re just pretending they are not.
Cohen’s who are descended from Prophets are allowed sex from age 3, that is clear in the Torah and Talmud, (Jesus religion too) You are just pretending. Stop lying.
Hey T Kurian, This is an Israeli Yeshiva learning website, atheist Rabbi’s who explain why the conventionional Judeo Christian religon allows pedophilia. That is why they’re atheists
They reject both Christian and Jewish religion, so you’re a fool calling the Moslem prophet a pedophile, if you’re a christian or jew.
Title: Pedophilia in Halacha
Content: Dear Daat Emet staff,
Do you know how Chazal viewed pedophilia?
http://www.daatemet.org/questions/index.cfm?MESSAGEID=2537
According to Halacha, sexual relations have taken place when the participants are a male over the age of nine and a female above the age of three.
It is written in the Mishnah: “A girl of three years and a day is sanctified (as a woman is acquired) through intercourse?if one of those forbidden to have relations with her according to the Torah does have relations with her, he is killed because of her, and she is exempt. If she is less than that (less than three years and a day), it is as one who sticks a finger into an eye” (Niddah 5:4). The sages of the Talmud explain the Mishnah’s simile “as one who sticks a finger into an eye”: Just as an eye, if poked by a finger, gives off a tear and then once again gives off tears, so is it when a man puts his penis in a girl younger than three, her hymen tears and then heals over. This is why it is not called intercourse in matters of prohibition or of acquisition (Niddah 45a).
Thus did Maimonides rule (Laws of Forbidden Intercourse 1:13-14): One who has sexual relations with a girl younger than three is exempt
Note, please, two things:
1. Halacha permits having sexual relations, even with a minor under the age of 11, through sanctification and marriage. (This is pedophilia.)
2. Halacha exempts one from punishment incest with a girl under the age of 3. one may do so. For example: a father who has sexual intercourse with his daughter of more than 3 would be liable to death by burning (Maimonides, Laws of Forbidden Intercourse 1:5), but if the daughter is under 3 the father is exempt from punishment. (this is the halacha we cited from Maimonides; it iThough we say “exempts,” this does not mean that s most odd that your teacher did not find it.)
To remove any doubt, we will cite Maimonides’ words in full
Thomas Kurian
You said:
“Where in the old or new testament or for that matter any religious book (Hindu/Sikh/Parsi) do you have a person claiming to be a prophet and keeps 23 wives+ sex slaves and RAPES a 6 year old CHILD when he was 56 years old?”
The pedophilic Biblical verses are Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40.
verses from the Jewish Talmud explaining the pedophilia that took place against the 3-year old slave girls under the direct command of Moses.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html#138
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Young girls in the Bible and Talmud, as young as 3, being married off:
Numbers 31:17-18 “Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”
Numbers 31:17-18 “Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”
Numbers 31:35-40 “[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man…….of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls].”
Hey all muslims disguised as ‘evilbible’ etc,
You seem to have gone through great pains digging Jewish texts for one, ONE, line or word that is negative ! hahaha poor guys …
Here are 2 points:
1. I am not a Jew and don’t care if at all there indeed is something as you say
2. Moses or any other prophet NEVER EVER had child sex or 23 wives or sex slaves like mohaMad
3. MohaMad even had sex with his OWN SON’s wife. how bad is that?
4. You will not have to digg the koran so hard to find negative verses. just open it ot just see the way muslims behave.
5. Jews/Christians/Hindus do not blow up as suicide bombs hoping to get 72 virgins in paradise
So please leave islam and sex prophet MohaMad and become a normal human
Muslim appeasers just open your eyes and look around you. All terrorism, child marriages, Wife beating multiple wives, all originate from Islam.
Can you travel in planes safely? Without removing your belts and underwear? Can you visit any govt. facility without having to go through a metal detector?
I care shit about any religion but I will say one thing – ISLAM is BULLSHIT and all Muslims MUST BE DEPORTED to their camel lands…
Thomas, I feel your pain. Don’t give up the fight against Islam. I know some will oppose you but many will follow you eventually.
To all those fools who say “but Christianity is also as violent as Islam” this is what I got to say – Go and live in an Islamic country. Why are Muslims flocking to our land why you Muslim appeasers do not want to go there?
You live and enjoy America and want to destroy it? Thankless fellows. Imagine a Muslim country (pakistan/Saudi/yemen/libya/Somalia) being a Super Power? Can you? The entire world would have been converted to Islam or destroyed.
Islam is of the devil. What did Islam bring that was new other than women suppression, wars and sex?
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Thomas Kurian
I don’t care if you are Jewish or not. Judo Chrisitan begins and ends with the old testament, even for Christians. The point I was making that people who laud Judo Christian whilst calling out Mo are hypocrites and liars.
Moslems aren’t leaving Islam in the USA but Christians are converting to Islam. ARe you blind or stupid or what? The religion of Jesus based on Pedophila, rape, sex with children and genocide all sanctioned in the Bible, is worse than Mo? All the “prophets” were genocidal maniacs and their followers are blind bats (like yourself)
You mean to tell me, that sex with a child bride is worse than genocide and mass murder, when child brides are sanctioned in the Bible? Get real! What is punishment for rape in the Christian Bible? it’s marriage to the victim. This is what your so called “prophets” taught. Murder, genocide, pedophilia, child sex, slavery, Moses was who Jesus and Mo both followed, a worse than Hitler maniac. Pedophilia began with Moses. Mo and Jesus were just following this lead. Christianity has been responsible for more bloodshed than any other religion, and Jews killed more Christians than anyone else. The Bolsheviks killed over 20million christians.
Winston Churchill blamed Jews for bringing the Holocaust upon themselves, after the Russian genocide of Christians. Not too different to what Pamela Geller is doing in the USA today.
Rid the world of the Bible and the evil will end.
Evilbible aka muslim undercover,
“Rid the world of the Bible and the evil will end” hahaha so who killed Fort hood soldiers? 911? London bombing? Spanish bombing? Theo Van killing? Kashmir 1 million deaths? Chechnya murders including Beslyan School kids? Iranian public hangings? Somalian stoning? Saudi beheadings? Yemeni terrorists?
You searched and searched in vain to find something wrong in the bible and failed MISERABLY! then you searched and searched Jewish books to find one word that might sound wrong! You are so pathetic.
Open your sex book Koran – It is filled with sex, war and inhumane raids by the maniac MohaMad.
Search the entire Jewish Bible, Christian Bible and all other world religions and you will NOT find a maniac like MohaMad who RAPED 6 year old child, had sex slaves, had 23 wives, looted and killed Jews, to be honored as a prophet!
MohaMad the maniac should be hanged after cutting off his penis.
Thomas Kurian,
I am no fan of Islam, I agree that the Koran should be burnt, i’m only saying the Bible is more evil, and should be burnt first. you’re now changing the subject you hypcrite, you began by saying pedophilia and child sex, and now you move to modern day terrorism, which pales compares to what the US neo cons led by Christian fanatics wrought upon our nation.
The subject wasn’t terrorism it was Mo and your pathetic hypocricy. Jesus was gay, he supported gay sex, Moses encouraged pedophila, and you’re saying Mo was a pedophile
That was your original line,
Liar and hypocrite. i’m for burning the koran, just make sure you burn the bible first.
Looks like you now have difficulty understanding English because you are clouded with anger. Cool down. If you are not a Muslim that itself makes you much more human.
You have not yet supported anything you said with proof from the Bible or other Historical texts to prove ANYTHING you said about Jesus. Try again and again — I bet you cannot.
I am still saying MohaMad was a child rapist and sex maniac and Moses/Jesus/Krishna/Buddha were never ever gay or pedophile or terrorist.
My point about moving to modern day terrorism – You implied Bible is as bad as koran and so Christians must be as bad as muslims. This is something you CANNOT prove in any day or age.
Why don’t you live in Saudi Arabia with your beloved muslim friends for a year? at least a month? And check out what a good world you have now to enjoy because of Christian civilization.
Thomas, you cretin, rape, sodomy, child murder, cannibalism was practiced by the ancestors of jesus, in the Bible, what do you mean inhumane raids by Mohamed, here are the verses that make the Koran look like a bedtime story,
In any case, if Mohamed plagriased Judaism, then it’s Judaism that should be destroyed, after all it gave birth to it’s evil twins Christianty and Islam.
) Capital Punishment Crimes:
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Thomas Kurian, rape and baby killing in the Bible
3) Murdering Children
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.” (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)
Kill Men, Women, and Children
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
God Kills all the First Born of Egypt
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
Kill Old Men and Young Women
“You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,” says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,” says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
More Rape and Baby Killing
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
Jesus approved slavery
Slavery in the Bible
Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Thomas Kurian is too ashamed to admit he has been caught with his pants down. Rape, murder pedophilia all comitted by David, solomon, Joshua, Moses, and many more, but he pretends that only the Koran which looks like a kids bedtime story book is worse.
Hypocrite,
Rape In The Bible
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don’t want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to “taking a wife”. Don’t be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to “take” these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.’” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”.
6) David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.’
Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan answered David: “The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.” [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
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