Steny Hoyer: Health Vote Won’t Cost Us in November

"When you go to the individual specific provisions in this bill — eliminating pre-existing conditions from being a preclusion to getting insurance, making sure that companies can't put lifetime caps or cancel your policies when you get really sick, making sure that annually you can't be capped so you drive families into bankruptcy — when you ask people about that, and about the exchanges where you have a transparent marketplace, where you can compare prices and benefits through whole range of insurance companies so you can get the best buy, people say 60%, 70%, 80%, 'Yes, those are good provisions.'"

March 19, 2010 at 12:25 pm - The Early Show
Dateline: Washington DC
freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 12:31 pm

because we’re going to pass immigration reform next, and put and end to this broken two party system.

To Steny   March 19th, 2010 - 12:31 pm

Wanna bet?

DrEdu   March 19th, 2010 - 12:33 pm

WANNA BET?

OK…sign a document where you promise you will RESIGN (if you are not taken down) if more than 3 Democrats are un-seated because of the shenanigans you in the Leadership are playing.

Have the BALLS to put a bite to your mistaken view.

true-scum-of-the-country   March 19th, 2010 - 12:33 pm

Insurance companies have no place in HEALTHCARE ,In places like Canada they are rightfully kick to the curb and relegated to where they belong… which is covering your homes and cars and should have nothing to do with anything thats LIFE or DEATH.

Many people are catching on that these private LEACHES,they could careless about you, only care is their PROFIT line, and is quick in denying you which result in you dying or losing your home in order to pay for care.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   March 19th, 2010 - 12:36 pm

America…there is nothing worse for a liar than to lie to himself and he is and he knows it!

They are putting out the talking points to calm the rightful jitters of those who are on the ‘fence’ about voting ‘yes’!

I have news for all you ‘on the fence’…it isn’t going to be pretty in November and if you vote ‘yes’…we will vote yes to use those ‘yes votes’ as nails to seal your political coffins for good!

Count on it…it will happen!

America…this is Friday…keep calling/emailing and send this info to your friends, family and neighbors to do the same!

If you are anywhere an 8 hr drive to Washington on Sunday, please do everything you can to get there to represent all of us ‘real’ Americans who cannot!

KEEP CALLING/EMAILING AND DO NOT GO THROUGH THE GENERAL SWITCHBOARD IN WASHINGTON TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU THINK!

IT WILL BE OVERLOADED AND YOU WILL NOT GET THROUGH!

Go here instead to get the numbers/emails of your State reps:

1. USA.gov
2. At top…click on ’site index’
3. At left…click on ‘federal government’
4. In middle…click on ‘legislative’
5. Pick Senate and then put in your state
6. Pick House and then put in your state

This is the only way for you to make an impact…not the switchboard!

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JUST EIGHT (8) MORE MONTHS TO “D” DAY II !

1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!

ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!

father_moray   March 19th, 2010 - 12:39 pm

WHY would anyone TRICK VOTE for a nationalized healthcare system that reduces your chances of illness / accident survival? Hellooooooooooooooooooo? and makes you pay to abort someone elses baby? Demonic intentions all the way through..

RogerCfromSD   March 19th, 2010 - 12:41 pm

true-scum-of-the-country, you’re under the misapprehension that the U.S. is just another socialist country.

Here, free enterprise is the way we do things. There are no free lunches for REAL Americans. Just for pussified, weak-willed, Democrat-controlled pansies who have no self-respect or initiative.

infinitefreedom   March 19th, 2010 - 12:42 pm

Do you see anything missing in this guys intellect? Like reality? Hello??

Or maybe he’s straight up arrogant.

txmike   March 19th, 2010 - 12:43 pm

Hoyer you fail to realize the facts that you and the democrats are untrustworthy. If this was such a good deal for all Americans then you would NOT have exempted congress from having to obey the reform. You would not have crafted the reform in secret. Finally you would have listened to the majority of Americans and their opposition to this crap. Nov 02 will be a big party for the American people and you will be forced to acknowledge that you were gravely mistaken.

From Minnesota   March 19th, 2010 - 12:43 pm

You can’t go against the “Will of the People” and think it’s not going to cost you!

Great cartoon on how Obamacare is violating the will of the people at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/health-care/

How many of the Ten Commandments will Obamacare break? Humorous cartoon on this at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/commandments/

Yeah, uh huh. That's right.   March 19th, 2010 - 12:44 pm

Yeah, just go on believing that. Just like you believe the Great American people really do like the present idiot-in-charge, obama-lama-ding-dong, as well as the reckless congressional lib-tards. November will have more people campaigning for conservatives than ever before. Mark my words.

Yeah, uh huh. That's right.   March 19th, 2010 - 12:46 pm

“Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

You are kidding, right?

R from ID   March 19th, 2010 - 12:50 pm

Steny is preaching to the choir (CBS).

Did neither the reporterette or Steny read the poll?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62I2HN20100319

We coming to get ya Steny! Don’t look over your shoulder. Run!

sparqz   March 19th, 2010 - 12:50 pm

Why? Will Ombamba be impeached by ten?

janice   March 19th, 2010 - 12:56 pm

another out of touch dim wit. Say goodbye to your job!

Desiree   March 19th, 2010 - 1:01 pm

What the hell kind of name is steny???? Go ahead and think like this you pig. You’re ugly smelly azz will out faster than shizz through a goose. Freedom
loving Americans will not let you commie pigs destroy this country. STFRU

hope and change   March 19th, 2010 - 1:01 pm

Impeach Obama.

they-are-still-the-true-scum   March 19th, 2010 - 1:03 pm

true-scum-of-the-country, you’re under the misapprehension that the U.S. is just another socialist country.

RogerCfromSD March 19th, 2010 – 12:41 pm
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HMM .. What do you call Social Security … Medicare , social assistance and i can rattle off a few more .

looking at those programs right off the back i would think we were in EUROPE, thats why those nation citizens enjoy a top quality of life and we are always late in catching up. But when it comes to the well being of our citizens… we and the world knows its the right thing to do.

Glad i can educate ..now run along.

no way   March 19th, 2010 - 1:06 pm

In bill 4872 it states that the hospitals will be under the new health hocho, med schools are under gov control, more IRS rules, you have to have a insurance ID on you, there are alot of things that they are not talking about.

C-ya   March 19th, 2010 - 1:08 pm

@True scum – No one is stopping you from moving to Canada, France, Germany or any other Socialist country. In fact, I encourage it. Take your friends with you. This is America. If you don’t like it, leave it.

they-are-still-the-true-scum   March 19th, 2010 - 1:09 pm

They have only been able to do so, becuase we have defended them for the past 60 years, and their system is currently collapsing under its own weight. Remember France’s grand plan to protect themselves from invasion, the Maginot Line. Go ahead and google it, I’m sure you didn’t learn about it in school, you were too busy learning about Karl Marx.

Tunisia Johnson   March 19th, 2010 - 1:11 pm

true-scum It is clear that Hooked on Phonics would be of great benefit to yourself. I would agree with you that a single payer health care system would be great if government had a better track record of running things than private companies. The main provision of this legislation is that we will be forced to buy health insurance. did you know that?

martifr   March 19th, 2010 - 1:11 pm

You think so? That’s good. You will never hear, nor see the train rolling right over you and your socialist dimokrats. mr. hoyer, Your arrogance is only exceeded by your sheer incompetence.

Old Fart   March 19th, 2010 - 1:13 pm

Now that’s arrogance.

Karen Richards   March 19th, 2010 - 1:15 pm

true-scum-of-the-country: And you believe the Government has a role in our health care? This comment only shows your ignorance. Here’s what is going to happen… Dr’s are smart, so Doctors will opt out, stop seeing Medicare people, or stop totally, which will lead to rationing, which will lead to long waits to see Dr’s. You better hope you don’t get cancer, because you will be waiting for treatment, IF you even get treatment. Another thing that will happen is non-productive people will not be treated with life saving treatments. Why would the government treat someone who is not adding to the coffers? Not a good business decision. One more thing…. What the h*ll are student college loans doing in this bill??? Really??? This also shows the stupidity of the libs for adding this to the HEALTH CARE REFORM bill…. Stop being a dumb liberal. Get smart, do some research. Don’t fall for the Liberal lies. May this bill go down in a flaming heap.

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 1:18 pm

How are you people that are so worried about getting screwed by the insurance companies so confident that you aren’t going to be screwed even worse by yeilding complete control to your government. There is a reason people like chavez and castro serve life terms, and its not because they are popular. Pew reports today that 38% of americans support passage of this health care bill, 40% of americans don’t pay any income tax, so in other words even 2% of people that don’t pay any income tax realize what a disaster this is.

they-are-still-the-true-scum   March 19th, 2010 - 1:20 pm

They have only been able to do so, becuase we have defended them for the past 60 years, and their system is currently collapsing under its own weight. Remember France’s grand plan to protect themselves from invasion, the Maginot Line. Go ahead and google it, I’m sure you didn’t learn about it in school, you were too busy learning about Karl Marx.
!!! !!!!
iam trying to pretend iam @ they-are-still-the-true-scum ,

thats why i JUST TEXT this garbage above ,but you see i must do this because iam not winning the argument.we can’t win this debate, so we will always yell karl marx to everything , no matter what.

kmichaels   March 19th, 2010 - 1:24 pm

Democrat leadership is simply doing what they do best, LIE.
The lies start at the top with Obama then trickle down
through the water carriers in the MSM. This has gone on
for decades. They can’t win if they can’t sell their lies.

WOW, Delusional..   March 19th, 2010 - 1:27 pm

He is Either Delusional or trying to convince the others on the fence that everything will be ok if they vote yes. Go ahead and Vote yes, You will be voted out of office and the bill will be reversed anyway on grounds that the process being used is unconstitutional as are many of the new laws in the bill, such as Gov. forcing citizens to purchase anything. This bill is doomed to fail regardless if they vote yes to pass or not. But a yes vote will also end their careers.

Mr. Right   March 19th, 2010 - 1:35 pm

What Hoyer is doing is called cherry picking. Selecting a few good talking points out of the bill and hoping like all get out that he doesn’t get a question about the bad stuff. Take if from a Marylander, Hoyer is a low down, lying weasel.

Steve   March 19th, 2010 - 1:35 pm

Another old fart that Washington would have drug from the back of his horse.

citizens-brianwash-to-the-delight-of-the-insurance-companies   March 19th, 2010 - 1:36 pm

How are you people that are so worried about getting screwed by the insurance companies so confident that you aren’t going to be screwed even worse by yeilding complete control to your government

freedom rocks March 19th, 2010 – 1:18 pm
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Wha wha wha WHAT.. You poor thing , look at the countries below with universal care , you think if it wasn’t working their citizens would put up with it . The governement runs our ARMY and its the best in the world , we also let government run things locally from FIRE to POLICE.

Had we gotten tru universal care ,that would mean we don’t have to lose sleep coming up with THOUSANDS of dollars to buy healthcare, Our TAX DOLLARS would automatically take care of that.. just like the above entities i mention…POLICE , fire , emergency..ETC, Remember the government is not in to make a profit. Insurance companies bottomline is profits and they put that over LIFE.

ATTILA   March 19th, 2010 - 1:38 pm

Hoyer is living in his own little dream world.Come Nov. nasty piglosi will be a non leader of the minority party,dingy harry reid can return to being the towel boy at the mustang ranch, and obumbler will be a lame duck until Jan 2013.

Whatwhatwhat   March 19th, 2010 - 1:40 pm

I don’t care about what happens in November 2010 until we get to November 2010. I and the majority of the American electorate voted in November 2008 for people who would address these issues and that is why you are there now Mr.Hoyer. Lead!

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 1:41 pm

Come Nov. nasty piglosi will be a non leader in the minority party, dingy harry will be back at his old job as towel boy at the mustang ranch, and the obumbler will be lame ducked until he leaves office in Jan of 2013.

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 1:42 pm

@Scum: We call marxism what it is. You are not supported by the main-stream media on this board, that can’t cover your doublespeak. pay close attention to how your beloved leaders are currently treating minority viewpoints in congress, your support may not be needed much longer, you may wind up becoming a teabagger yourself.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 1:44 pm

I, and a majority of the American people will drive a stake through the heart of this socialist admistration come Nov. Enjoy you short lived victories, as it will soon be your last.

our-policies-are-always-behind   March 19th, 2010 - 1:47 pm

Countries with the Best Health Care

1 France
2 Japan
3 Australia
4 Spain
5 Italy
6 Canada
7 Norway
8 Netherlands
9 Sweden
10 Greece
11 Austria
12 Germany
13 Finland
14 New Zealand
15 Denmark

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I dare those countries POLITICIANS to try and take away UNIVERSAL HEATHCARE from their Citizens and turn it into us , They would burn them to a stake.

We are always the last it seems in catching up with things from a bullet train railway to basic social policies.

Without a bold the vision to get us social security among other things, we would really be in the dark, and try taking away social security.. i dare you .

Rememeber when George bush wanted to put all of our social security onto WALL STREET. good thing DEMS with numbers in congress was there to STOP that INSANITY.

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 1:49 pm

@whatwhat: Nice try: moderate democrats did not vote for this, when the president appeared on national television, he campaigned as a moderate. The mainstream media carefully shielded him from his past associations and actions, and he has sealed his college transcripts. No one as of yet has been found, that remembers him attending Columbia University. This was a mass deception co-ordinated by the uber-wealthy. If a republican had raised as much money as Obama, democrats would still be holding hearings in congress. You are being used.

Joe American 1776   March 19th, 2010 - 1:50 pm

Hello Fellow Americans: Don’t you all see the irony of the democrats being all excited of MAYBE being able to pass this health care reform bill with ONLY votes from democrats that have been corrupted or threatened for their own votes. It is simply amazing to see democrats in joy on a bill that America does not want. Its true all Americans want reform, but I do not think Americans want to see the type of corruption and bribery that is going on in Washington. Earlier someone posted the following on another Breitbart blog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHo3AiJRQIE&feature=related
Its amazing how this IS happening and now some of all this corruption and wrongness makes sense. Wow! It is hard to believe that this is America. But there again, everyone wanted CHANGE, so now I guess this is what we get. But until the “large lady” sings, I feel things are NOT over. So Please fellow Americans, please do what you can to let your Congressmen and Congresswomen understand that this bill is not what America needs or wants. Congress is about to vote for a bill that they, including the President does not know what is in it. As we speak more PORK is being added. This is a bill that WILL change America. It’s a bill that not only effects medical issues, but will also effect education and the economy. Do you remember ever hearing the phrases; “If its too good to be true, it probably isn’t,” or ” Beware of anything when they say we need to do this NOW or things will be worse.” Do you remember hearing this from your parents? Well I do. I remember my mother saying this many times. So here’s a couple questions that I feel need answering: If this is so good, why do you have to threaten or bride your own party members to get JUST ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS? Why if it is so good for America, that EVERY POLL IN AMERICA, SHOWS AMERICANS DO NOT WANT THIS BILL? How can you add 30 million more people from America to the health care system and yet save money, not raise taxes or receive less care? How can that be? Why not have retort reform where lawsuits are governed by common sense and NOT lawyers? Why not allow interstate insurance? What are the special deals that the President made to the pharm companies? Why did the President and Congress NOT put the debates on C Span? America, to me there are TOO many problems with this vote and with the whole system, including how Washington is trying to get this passed. America, please stand up for our country’s Constitution. Deeming it passed, or passing it with Reconcilliation is not how our laws should be handled. Please slow this wreck of governing down. We do need health care reform, but we do not need this type of corruption or bribery going on. If Congress passed this bill with these tactics, then what is to stop them from passing ANYTHING? To the President and Congress, even if nothing is wrong with this bill, which I doubt, then Pleae stop all this corruption and bribery within our government. DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND STOP IT ALL FOR IT IS GOING TO HURT OUR NATION FOR YEARS TO COME. IF CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT CAN SIT BACK AND LET THIS CORRUPTION AND BRIBERY TO HAPPEN AND NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT OR EVEN PARTICIPATE IN IT, THEN TO THIS I ASK, WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DO WE REALLY HAVE. HOW CAN WE ASK OTHER COUNTRIES TO HAVE A DEMOCRACY WHEN WE OURSELVES DON’T HAVE ONE? America, think about this. Make the calls and send the emails. Thank you. God Bless our Troops, God Bless America, and please God Help Americans keep America home of the free and brave. Sincerely, Joe American 1776.

bottomline   March 19th, 2010 - 1:54 pm

Unless we address COST and ensure everyone is COVERED, we would never crack the top 10 in the world on healthcare.

REMEMBER OUR PROBLEM IS NOT CARE……………… BUT COST and ACCESS.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 1:55 pm

our-policies-are-always-behind March 19th, 2010 – 1:47 pm
Countries with the Best Health Care

Great! You and your leftist ilk should have no problem moving to one of them.Be ready to come back here, for any SERIOUS medical problem.

One thing you forgot to mention there comrade,that these countries don’t have====individual freedom.

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 1:59 pm

@our-policies-are-always-behind: that list was compiled by the United Nations, which has its own agenda, but you probably don’t understand that.
George Bush was trying to save Social Security from its inevitable demise, just as he tryed to warn congress and the american people about the bomb of Freddie and Fannie, but democrats in congress assured us, there was no problem with Freddie and Fannie, just as they are assuring us at this time, the healthcare bill will lower our budget deficit. All the countries at the top of your list, are counties that U.S. tax dollars helped to rebuild after World War 11, but I wouldn’t expect you to know that.

Matt   March 19th, 2010 - 2:00 pm

You are right it won’t cost you in November. It will cost you sooner. What you are doing is unconstitutional and treasonous and the American people will not stand for it.

Dissent is Patriotic right?

Gandhi's Fist   March 19th, 2010 - 2:01 pm

Stealth Marxists (dems) out in 2010 and 2012.

lemmings   March 19th, 2010 - 2:02 pm

@D Quixote: we don’t want freedom we just want free stuff.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:03 pm

Euro socialism is crumbling of it’s own weight, and these brain dead sycophants of the left would saddle us with the same crapola. liberalism is a mental disease.

bubamma   March 19th, 2010 - 2:03 pm

As a doctor I can tell you that we have the best health care in the world. This is how out of touch the socialists/marxists are.

We drive more than anyone, so if you take out the unique mortality of car accidents, and democrat homicide rates (gangs), and their drug related issues, we have a top tier life expectancy. Our cancer survivals are second to none.

If you want to make it worse, the government will surely do it. If our cancer survival rates are reduced to the UK and Canada levels, over 300,000 people will die under the system. That’s genocide. That’s what this bill will do.

In the UK they also have tort reform where the loser pays. Why must we be the litigation capital of the world? Save money, tort reform.
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trial lawyers   March 19th, 2010 - 2:07 pm

@bubamma: because we write the laws.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:09 pm

Unless we address COST and ensure everyone is COVERED, we would never crack the top 10 in the world on healthcare.

REMEMBER OUR PROBLEM IS NOT CARE……………… BUT COST and ACCESS
~~~~bottomline

Here’s another bottom line for you: No one is dying in the streets for want of HEALTH CARE. Not having health insurance doesn’t mean “no health care.”

The constitution guarantees NO ONE government mandated health insurance/care.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:11 pm

Trial lawyers~~~may someday be a good source of protein.

mike gino   March 19th, 2010 - 2:12 pm

This is the same guy that whacks off to naked photos of Pelosi.

facts   March 19th, 2010 - 2:13 pm

Great! You and your leftist ilk should have no problem moving to one of them.Be ready to come back here, for any SERIOUS medical problem.

D QUIXOTE March 19th, 2010 – 1:55 pm
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you need to go online and see how many people are dying without care .Some you can see online in our emgency room .

ARE YOU THAT DUMB.

WHAT part don’t you get people are NOT getting access to top care.cause they CAN”T afford

WE have TOP care but people are getting denied or they just can’t afford it, and we are not talking about the DREADFUL local clinic that look like its in a THIRD world country that have some free access , its all dirty and disgusting and you are quicker to catch something there .i don’t think thats my America.

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 2:13 pm

@bubamma: thanks for shining some light on this UN list that is touted by the progressives as the reason we should destroy our healthcare system. Hey socialist visit CPUSA website, clink on the link to program of the communist party usa and see what the endgame is.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:13 pm

Trial lawyer will do that,between ambulance chasing.

@ citizens-brianwash-to-the-delight-of-the-insurance-companies   March 19th, 2010 - 2:18 pm

The majority of Brits hate their system, They are trying to get out of it, right now they are trying to move to a private system like we have. It is very hard to do once gov has the power to go back, But they are trying. The same can be said of Canada.

As far as Our military, it is the best because we have the best people. We are the best funded do to Tax payer dollars, NON GOV TAX PAYERS. We have the best equipment because we Use Private NON GOV COMPANIES to compete to come up with best new tech and weapon technology. Gov has nothing to do with our military being the best, if anything the gov hurts our military, But dont take my word for it, Ask any Vietnam Vet! It was Government that got us in the mess, and once in, it was OUR GOVERNMENT POLITICIANS that did not allow our men to fight the war the way they needed to, If politicians would have left the fighting decisions to the generals and men on the ground not only would we have won the war, It would have been done without losing over 50 thousand Americans. So No, do not credit bureaucrats with the efforts of our military men. Our military is the best because of the Americans in it.

Police and fire is not Run by Politicians, it is funded by local city or counties and run by the firemen and Police officers. And the great Majority of Ambulance services are Private companies.

But gov does control our Public school system which sucks more cash per student than any other in the world, and yet ranks 8th in the world.

Gov already runs a health care company, Medicare, It does not pay up to the doctors so now most doctors are dropping medicar all together or not taking any new Medicare patients. If you do not believe it, get out your phone bood and start calling random dr offices and ask “Hi, I have medicare, are you taking any new medicare patients?” the majority will tell you NO.

And if obamas system passes you are going to have over 30% of doctors and medical professionals drop out of the system, This will further increase waiting times and severely cripple quality of care. This is already evident in places they have universal health care, Check any of them out and you will find a sever shortage of Medical professionals.

Add in rationing of health care and it just gets worse, If you dont think there will be rationing, just look at Medicare right now, patients are limited to how many medications they are allowed to have per month regardless of patients condition, If you run out of a medication, you have to wait till the next month to get a refill if you have already hit your small monthly limit on meds, and not due to ammount of meds but do to what medicare will agree to pay for per month.

the future of medical care with Obama Care …Worse than Medicare now.

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:20 pm

DREADFUL local clinic that look like its in a THIRD world country that have some free access , its all dirty and disgusting and you are quicker to catch something there .i don’t think thats my America.
~~~FACTS

Those “local clinics” are flooded with illegals that your side wants to legalize. Those clinics are a harbinger of all medical facilities,if this goat rope ever passes.Be ready for doctor shortages, waiting lines,crappy conditions ad nauseum. If people were dying in the streets for want of medical care, the dims would be dragging that in front of every T.V. camera they could find.

DA BEARRRRS   March 19th, 2010 - 2:20 pm

A memo from Steny reported by Politico secretly detailing an additional 371 Billion to be back-doored into the bill by the Democrats after passage.

There go the “Savings”.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM138_100319_recon.html

Matt   March 19th, 2010 - 2:21 pm

Everytime these democrats talk the Constitution cries like an Indian watching you litter.

RUListeningNow?   March 19th, 2010 - 2:31 pm

Communists and traders not only will be voted out in November but I suspect many will be brought up on charges for corruption and in some cases treason. We have wannabe dictators, liars, robbers and looters out to destroy the country. From the intentional agenda back in 2005 (Pelosi/Soros/Reid) to do as much damage as possible to the economy for the “sake of the election” and picking up seats. These people should be treated as dictators of the past.

Oh, and for the idiots that voted these vile piss ants into office because they thought they would get something free….you will NOT. The country is broke, the people that feed the corrupt politicians are broke, those of us with anything left are “going John Galt” and we will not be working until July every year so you can sit on your ass___ while we support you!

INPEACH OBAMA AND START PETITIONS TO RECALL THESE TRAITORS AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT. START BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION!

freedom rocks   March 19th, 2010 - 2:40 pm

@facts: So under Obamacare there will be unlimited care for all who need it, and no procedure will ever be denied? you can’t actually believe that. I’ve been if business for twenty five years and insurance rates started to go up dramatically when states started to restrict what companies could do business in their respective state, in my state it was passed by a democratic congress and signed by a democratic governor, and everone was warned at the time what the result would be. This problem has been created by well meaning progressive efforts. Democratic legislation is never successful its not intended to be, but its always compassionate.

Clear Thinker   March 19th, 2010 - 2:53 pm

Okay, stupid progressives. I’m tired of reading your stupidity.

said by stupid, aka citizens-brianwash-to-the-delight-of-the-insurance-companies March 19th, 2010 – 1:36 pm

“Had we gotten tru universal care ,that would mean we don’t have to lose sleep coming up with THOUSANDS of dollars to buy healthcare, Our TAX DOLLARS would automatically take care of that.. just like the above entities i mention…POLICE , fire , emergency..ETC, Remember the government is not in to make a profit. Insurance companies bottomline is profits and they put that over LIFE.”

Hey, stupid? The government cannot run ANYTHING well. You cite the military, but the only reason our military is the best in the world is because PRIVATE COMPANIES design and build the weapon systems that our military deploys and our soldiers are motivated because they are free American citizens protecting what much blood and treasure has been spent to obtain. When the government runs things, you get garbage entities such as the DMV, the IRS, the USPS, etc. – none of which do anything useful and just suck money down an endless pit. The USPS cannot compete with private entities such as UPS or FEDEX. The DMV is a worthless tax collecting entity. The IRS is the equivalent of the gestappo. If you honestly think that a govenment entity, accountable to nobody, will be able to run the healthcare system better than it is now, then you sir, or madam, are stupid.

Furthermore, the insurance companies are being used as a prop by the progressives to sell this trojan horse to you stupid people. It’s a trick. The insurance companies DO NOT SET THE PRICE FOR HEALTHCARE. The doctors, hospitals, drug companies, medical equipment manufacturers do. They have to pay for MASSIVE LAWSUITS on a regular basis because greedy people known as TRIAL LAWYERS suck as much money out of the healthcare system as possible. Taking the insurance companies out and replacing them with the federal government will do nothing to cut costs and will make the situation much, much worse, not better. If you want to reduce health care costs, you must first put caps on lawsuits and make it more difficult to sue doctors for mistakes. Here’s a newsflash everyone: YOU ARE GOING TO DIE!!! Yes. You. Dead. We are all going to die. It’s just a matter of how and when. It is in the best interest of doctors, hospitals, drug companies to prolong our lives, and they try to as best they can, but eventually you’re going to die of something. Unfortunately, in the USA, we punish these very same doctors, hospitals and drug companies with insane lawsuits constantly at the expense of every one of us. Every time somebody gets some out of control settlement or compensation for a mistake WE ALL PAY. Even the best doctors make mistakes. We all do. Are doctors not men? Are they supermen? Can anyone be perfect ALL THE TIME? Even if they were, you are still going to die and suffer compliciations at times. We cannot continue to punish the doctors for doing their jobs, thus drastically raising the cost of healthcare for everyone. THAT is why healthcare is so expensive. IT IS NOT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. Same goes for drug companies, hospitals, medical equipment manufacturers, etc. It is this notion THAT WE ARE ENTITLED to some incredible compensation if a mistake is made that is destroying the healthcare system. Are there bad doctors? Of course. Should there be some form of compensation for negligence? Of course. But it has to be reasonable and not a lottery at the expense of the everyone else. A doctor that makes a mistake should not be an automatic pay day for a team of lawyers and compensation for life. Again, you are going to die and suffer anyway. If there were no doctors to treat you, then what? What would you do then? You would suffer with your injury, health condition or die. WE NEED TO STOP FEEDING THE LAWYERS and destoying the medical system. Okay, STUPID? DO YOU GET IT NOW?

And one more thing, stop thinking that healthcare is a right. It is not a right. It is a privilege to see a doctor. That doctor went to school for years in order to become a doctor. They do this voluntarilly. They are not drafted. You cannot MAKE people become doctors to serve your supposed “right.” There can be no “rights” that require the work or sacrifice of other FREE PEOPLE. DO YOU GET IT? What if I said to you that you had to pick up my garbage because it’s my right to have my garbage picked up and somebody has to do it. No, it’s a privilege. ALL YOU STUPID PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP, GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOURSELVES – CAUSE I AIN’T PAYING FOR YOU!

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 2:58 pm

AFFORDABLE~~~Libspeak for making someone else pay for it.

CHECKERS   March 19th, 2010 - 3:07 pm

You are correct Steny – it will not just cost you Democrats in November.

IT WILL COST YOU DEMOCRATS FOR EVERY ELECTION between now and the forseeable future all things being equal.

But “all things being equal” is not your corrupt perverse intention, is it Steny. Next on the agenda will be to grant amnesty to the 30-40 million illegal aliens in the country and open our borders with Mexaco. Yes, that way they’ll vote in gratitude Democrat forever and ensconce you and your corrupt Dem buddies in power forever, the pews in the Catholic churches will be filled, and businesses will get access to cheap lador. And so the communist coup de tat will be complete – all of us citizens, including the former illegal aliens, will be surfs to those holding all the trillions in national debt Obama has run up since he took office. And we will be stuck with substandard medical care at increasing costs.

I SPIT IN YOUR FACE, STENY and I SPIT IN THE FACE OF ALL THOSE WHO VOTE FOR BECOME SLAVES!

SanFranciscoGo   March 19th, 2010 - 3:09 pm

The HCB plain and simple is a total “Fake Out” any way you look at it.

Pancy Nelosi is even “Faking out” her own Party. The “Reconciliation” is designed
to “Fake Out” House Democrats, too, who would vote for something, crossing their fingers
that they would get it later.

It is a “Bait and Switch Fake Out Supreme”.

(yuck) here is your future… enjoy – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7z-_RXWeA

D QUIXOTE   March 19th, 2010 - 3:11 pm

~~~ode to nancy~~~~~PG version

NASTY PIGLOSI HAS HER OWN FACTOTUM,
HER LAST FACE LIFT LOOKS LIKE A SCROTUM,
LEAVING HER BROOM ASIDE,THIS UGLY OLD HIDE,
INSISTS UPON A GULFSTREAM IN WHICH TO RESIDE,
LETS PUT AN END UM, TO THIS GERIATRIC PUDENDUM.

NANCY PIGLOSI WAS A NASTY LOOKING MUTT,
SHE HAD A FACE LIKE HARRY REID’S BUTT,
THE CONGRESSIONAL GELDINGS THEY DID ADORE HER,
THE REST OF HUMANITY, THEY DID ABHOR HER,
COME 2010, HER YAP THEY WILL SHUT.

temple62   March 19th, 2010 - 3:13 pm

Get you bags packed Hoyer, you all on the way out!

NEOFREEDOM   March 19th, 2010 - 3:44 pm

This Health Care Bill will not pass.(period)

chunky   March 19th, 2010 - 3:52 pm

I am from Maryland our politicians have a history of corruption Spiro Agnew comes to mind, Steny Hoyer is following in the same footsteps along with Milkuski and Cardin. They are a bunch of corrupt windbags that will not answer their phones or reply to Emails. Come on November ! These people are a real embarrassment.

ed357   March 19th, 2010 - 3:57 pm

WANNA BET?

edword   March 19th, 2010 - 4:39 pm

Stupid is as stupid believes.

James   March 19th, 2010 - 4:51 pm

I just spit coffee out my nose and fell off my stool……..Health care vote cost us in November Elections? I want the drugs that all these Deemocraps and Rinos are doing cuz they are at maximum hallucination. Hoyer is going to one of the first ones brought before the corruption commission that will be empaneled when we throw these criminals out. They think they can just crawl back into the woodwork they are sadly mistaken. Not only will these corruptocrats be kicked out of office but several will go to prison. It is going to take at least 10 years to fix the damage done to this country in just 15 months and we plan to hold some folks liable.

Sam   March 19th, 2010 - 5:22 pm

The government is already the largest insurance company and they aren’t accountable to us for the rampant fraud in their programs nor the horrible inefficiency.

Stay on the lookout for Obama to attempt to end elections by November or to flood the system with fraudulent votes again; he did just return Acorn’s funding. Gotta get more ACORN workers trained and put to work for the upcoming election.

Liz   March 19th, 2010 - 5:26 pm

What Steny seems to have forgotten is the fact that the benefits of this do not go into effect until 2014 but the taxes kick in almost immediately. Believe me, it will cost you dearly Steny!!!!!!!! JackA$$

Thor   March 19th, 2010 - 5:33 pm

Oh yeah pompous cretin… we’ll see

this new brand of demos simply amaze me   March 19th, 2010 - 5:33 pm

it wont hurt you in November? is that what obama promised you? so you learned nothing about obma’s promises?
stick around. Scott Brown was also a non-issue, or have you been instructed by obama to dismiss that reality too?

Army of Davids   March 19th, 2010 - 5:35 pm

Steny is dreaming….the Democrat brand is in the toilet.

Roll Call vote.

OH YEAH?   March 19th, 2010 - 5:38 pm

Rasmussen reports says for today’s poll only 23 percent approve of obama’s job performance.
44% DISSAPROVE.
SO!!! will obama get reelected with 23% of the vote?(keep in mind Blacks make up about 13% of the
population so if they figure into that 23%, only 10 percent of the rest of america will vote for obama)

THAT’S REALITY PEOPLE.
let them sing whatever song they choose, but at the end of the day REALITY is the only currency the bank accepts.

Mary   March 19th, 2010 - 5:47 pm

Hey Steny – why couldn’t you just stay with the good provisions…why did all the crap have to be added and all the backroom deals that we now are going to have to pay for…and yes, taxpayers will be saddled with all these extras. Even the education add-on. Congress couldn’t leave well enough alone…they had to screw it up.

i-see-dumb-people   March 19th, 2010 - 5:54 pm

Rasmussen reports says for today’s poll only 23 percent approve of obama’s job performance.
44% DISSAPROVE.
SO!!! will obama get reelected with 23% of the vote?(keep in mind Blacks make up about 13% of the
population so if they figure into that 23%, only 10 percent of the rest of america will vote for obama

OH YEAH? March 19th, 2010 – 5:38 pm

__________________________________________________________________________________

Oh really !!me and my neighbourhood didn’t get that call asking me how i feel about the president , i guess these few people speak for the other 300 plus million. And lets see they don’t even call people with CELL PHONES.

But please continue drinking propaganda.

You have been dealt with …now RUN ALONG.

anne can   March 19th, 2010 - 5:56 pm

Recall all reps not up for election in November. The tea party is working on that in NJ. Time’s a wastin.

Pinnybogg   March 19th, 2010 - 6:51 pm

some of you sheeple are really on the edge.
Do you realize health care insurance companies only make 3.5% profit????? yearly???? Do you realize oil companies and many many other “big” businesses make 30 to 55% profit a year??!!!

My god I will be the first person they force to sign an order to “terminate” life for!!! I am 66 have 2 cancers, both in remission and that’s just too bad according to the wonderful Obama health care that they are shoving down our throats. I am NOT ready to call it a day!!!! I have 5 kids, 14 grandchildren and 1 great grandson. I have a heck of a lot of life left. LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!
They also have provisions in this “wonderful” bill to ration care for cancer paients as well as limited health care for those that are “challenged”!!!!!! Much much more is there to make you sick to your stomach if you go read it!!!!

dee   March 19th, 2010 - 6:56 pm

Of course it won’t cost them in Nov, because by that time they will have ACORN (by whatever name then), up and running so they can again steal the elections. Just wait and see.

dumbest in the nation: beleiving obama's lies, AGAIN!   March 19th, 2010 - 6:57 pm

i-see-dumb-people March 19th, 2010 – 5:54 pm

Oh really !!me and my neighbourhood didn’t get that call
—————————————–
so let me get this right… you think when polls are taken each and every household is called?
(people this is how obama got elected -dumbest and dumbest ever!!!)

a-la-DODD, DORGAN, BAYH?   March 19th, 2010 - 6:59 pm

my guess is he thinks it wont bother them in November because there will be none of them around in november.

Pinnybogg   March 19th, 2010 - 7:03 pm

a quote from above:

they-are-still-the-true-scum March 19th, 2010 – 1:03 pm

true-scum-of-the-country, you’re under the misapprehension that the U.S. is just another socialist country.

RogerCfromSD March 19th, 2010 – 12:41 pm
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

HMM .. What do you call Social Security … Medicare , social assistance and i can rattle off a few more .

looking at those programs right off the back i would think we were in EUROPE, thats why those nation citizens enjoy a top quality of life and we are always late in catching up. But when it comes to the well being of our citizens… we and the world knows its the right thing to do.

Glad i can educate ..now run along. end of quote.

I paid into social security for 44 years, buster, I earned my social security I am now receiving!! Tis my own money, forced from my paycheck for 44 years!!!
I did not ask for medicare!!! When I retired, it was forced on me, I had no choice, Blue cross blue shield became my secondary insurance per federal law!!!!! I have never, ever been on assistance!!! I have worked for every think I have ever gotten!!!!
So glad I could educate you you piece of skutta, now run along and play with your blocks.

addicted to spiked grape koolaid?   March 19th, 2010 - 7:05 pm

Rasmussen reports says for today’s poll only 23 percent approve of obama’s job performance.
44% DISSAPROVE.
SO!!! will obama get reelected with 23% of the vote?(keep in mind Blacks make up about 13% of the
population so if they figure into that 23%, only 10 percent of the rest of america will vote for obama)

THAT’S REALITY PEOPLE.

so run along you dumbo-selected-crats
some of you have come around but boy-oh-boy are some of you on the koolaid bigtime!

LK   March 19th, 2010 - 7:43 pm

true-scum-of-the-country – you’re an IDIOT! You want to see “LEECHES” look no further than Congress — THEY STEAL AND WASTE OUR MONEY!!!!!

clear thinker — couldn’t have said it better — KUDOS!

our-policies-are-always-behind — Bush wanted you to have control of SOME of your Social Security money — if you die now it goes to the Government — if you had control of it you could will it to your heirs…..WAKE UP!

The Dems are true COMMUNISTS!

claspur   March 19th, 2010 - 8:49 pm

He better not get caught swipeing Maobummercon’s stash of Crack, is all I gotta say.

Guest   March 19th, 2010 - 9:02 pm

By “us” you mean you and those whose time has not yet come. But that time will come, and quickly.
I hope there are trials for treason and sedition and impeachment in the near future.

Old Fart   March 19th, 2010 - 9:29 pm

Galveston vs. Social Security. Upon retirement after 30 years, and assuming a 5 percent rate of return – more conservative than Galveston workers have earned – all workers would do better for the same contribution as Social Security:
Retirement Benefits Galveston Plan vs Social Security

* Workers making $17,000 a year are expected to receive about 50 percent more per month on our alternative plan than on Social Security – $1,036 instead of $683. [See the Figure.]
* Workers making $26,000 a year will make almost double Social Security’s return – $1,500 instead of $853.
* Workers making $51,000 a year will get $3,103 instead of $1,368.
* Workers making $75,000 or more will nearly triple Social Security – $4,540 instead of $1,645.
* Galveston County’s survivorship benefits pay four times a worker’s annual salary – a minimum of $75,000 to a maximum $215,000 – versus Social Security, which forces widows to wait until age 60 to qualify for benefits, or provides 75 percent of a worker’s salary for school-age children.

In Galveston, if the worker dies before retirement, the survivors receive not only the full survivorship but get generous accidental death benefits, too. Galveston County’s disability benefit also pays more: 60 percent of an individual’s salary, better than Social Security’s.

Two government studies of the Galveston Plan – by the Government Accountability Office and the Social Security Administration – claim that low-wage workers do better under Social Security. However, these studies assumed a low 4 percent return, which is the minimum rate of return on annuities guaranteed by the insurance companies. The actual returns have been substantially higher.

Guidance for Today’s Reformers. Congress could consider making participation in any privatization plan voluntary at first. We made our plan voluntary in the beginning and 70 percent joined. It later became mandatory, and now there is full participation. Also, if some workers remain uncertain about investing a portion of their contributions, the plan could include a guarantee that low-income earners receive the same funds they would get with total participation in Social Security.

Our experience has shown that even though low-income workers would do better, a guarantee would ease their worries. Moderate- and higher-income workers would do much better, as ours do, because they have invested more in the plan and are not prejudicially punished or “topped out” on retirement benefits, as they are in Social Security.

In today’s debate about whether to partially privatize Social Security, the Galveston County plan is sometimes demagogued. But our experience should be judged factually and fairly, not emotionally, politically or on the basis of hearsay. We sought a secure, risk-free alternative to the Social Security system, and it has worked very well for nearly a quarter-century. Our retirees have prospered, and our working people have had the security of generous disability and accidental death benefits.

Most important, we didn’t force our children and grandchildren to be unduly taxed and burdened for our retirement while these fine young people are struggling to raise and provide for their own families.

happy   March 19th, 2010 - 9:53 pm

Well, I hope he thinks it won’t hurt him in November because the element of surprise will be fun to watch.

All of them will be defeated. There is no doubt in my mind.

We can see the infection in Congress now. We don’t have to wonder anymore.

BenDejo   March 19th, 2010 - 10:14 pm

Awfully curious that they keep going on record saying this won’t hurt them in the mid-terms. Martial law on election day or just fuller employment for the Black Panthers?

Whatwhatwhat   March 19th, 2010 - 11:46 pm

So I hear John Ensign is under investigation for bribery and it will run to the Republican Senatorial Committee. Ah yes, November. The Rethugs may just manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

LOL!

Desiree   March 19th, 2010 - 11:56 pm

Waa Waa Waa

So I hear your new basement you bought with your hope and change was just foreclosed on. I
guess it’s back to mommy’s basement for you.

LOL

To they-are-still-the-true-scum   March 20th, 2010 - 12:53 am

YOU are still the true IDIOT!
You and many others who still harbor the delusion that Social Security and Medicare are “entitlement” programs that are freely handed out to undeserving people! You morons! Those who are receiving Social Security & Medicare & even Disability pay have PAID INTO THOSE SYSTEMS ALL THEIR LIVES AND ARE MERELY COLLECTING THEIR PAID-FOR BENEFITS!

Screw all of you who want A “FREE LUNCH” AND MEDICAL-HANDOUT on the backs of US TAXPAYERS! TO HELL WITH YOU! IF YOU WANT HEALTH CARE, GO BUY SOME! That’s what WE TAXPAYERS & CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY ARE DOING!

dennisl59   March 20th, 2010 - 1:26 am

If I ever meet this guy, I’d SPIT IN HIS EYE!!!

JoeTulsa   March 20th, 2010 - 2:54 am

Future family drama:

HR Haldeman’s grandson: Grandpa, were you part of Nixon’s dirty-tricks Whitehouse?
HR Haldeman: Yes, I’m sorry, I was.
HR Haldeman’s grandson: How could you, grandpa?!

Steny Hoyer’s grandson: Grandpa, were you part of Obama’s dirty-tricks Congress?
Steny Hoyer: Yes, I’m sorry, I was.
Steny Hoyer’s grandson: How could you, grandpa?!

John Campbell   March 20th, 2010 - 3:16 am

Has anyone noticed that the Democrats (Leftists, Communists, scum, ect…) do NOT want to talk about making a law that says I have to buy health insurance? Fining me if I don’t? Possible jail time for refusing to go along? Penalizing me if they deem my chioce is too good of a policy? Has anyone at Obama’s office or Pelosi’s office sat down for a formal accouting to justify such tyrannical acts? Has anyone targeted this as a massive violation of my rights?

YR   March 20th, 2010 - 8:29 am

he’s probably thinking of maryland since were stuck with these losers in maryland

but who knows maybe we can get a couple semi-conservatives elected like they did in massachusetts

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