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More b/s from the cultural beauracracy crowd….absolute classless clowns

Welcome to Obama World where you “Do as I say…not as I do”. How is that Hope and Change workin’ for ya?

THIS IS JUST ONE MORE FRIGGIN’ OUTRAGE!!! WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SOC. SEC. DEBACLE? OFF WITH THEIR WORTHLESS DAMNED HEAD!!!

[...] here to see the original: Social Security Administration Holds Training Seminar for 700 Employees at Luxury Resort in Arizona Filed Under: Latest News [...]

Ahhh…..Arizona,…..the state of rich old white folk rethuglicanism!

BREAKING NEWS YOU WONT FIND ON BREITFART!!

ENSIGN PAID MISTRESS’S FAMILY $96,000.00

LAS VEGAS — The sex scandal engulfing Sen. John Ensign has deepened now that his former mistress’s husband has revealed new details about the relationship, saying the Nevada Republican paid the woman more than $25,000 in severance when she stopped working for him.

In a letter to Politico, Ensign’s lawyer revealed that the senator also gave a “gift” of nearly $100,000 to the family of Cindy Hampton out of his private funds.

“In April 2008, Senator John Ensign’s parents each made gifts to Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton, and two of their children in the form of a check totaling $96,000. Each gift was limited to $12,000. The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts.”

Ensign’s office has acknowledged helping Doug Hampton get work once he left the Senate office, first as a consultant and then as a lobbyist for an airline run by an Ensign contributor.

Through a spokesman, Ensign has accused Doug Hampton of recently making “exorbitant demands for cash and other financial benefits.”

Hampton said in the interview that attorneys for the men have been in negotiations over “millions” in possible payments from the senator. Ensign, through his spokesman, has refused to answer questions on whether any payments have been made.

Doug Hampton also worked for Ensign as a Senate aide. He claims his wife received the payment as severance when she left her position in May 2008. Both men say the affair continued until August 2008.

Doug Hampton also provided a letter to the Las Vegas Sun that he claimed was a handwritten apology from Ensign to Cindy Hampton, a former treasurer for the senator’s campaign committees.

“I used you for my own pleasure,” the letter reads, later adding. “Plain and simple it was wrong; it was sin.”

Ahhh yes! I smell a federal indictment on it’s way soon!

To: WTF?? Is everything in the news Republican based in your warped mine? This is happening on your boy osamabama’s watch. Surely there are dumbocrats / socialists that are seminar attendees. It is likely one of osamabama’s “czars” that thought going to AZ would help motivate the SSA workers, but as always, did not think it through, as in who is paying for this convention? Ha. You are a moron.

WTF has a wharped [MIND] . . .

WTF has a [warped] MIND . .

okay, okay I realy can spell.

Man, it’s great to know Obama’s administration is managing the stimulus package so well. I can sleep better at night knowing that expenditures are only for what’s necessary and right!

Well, at least it’s the low season for tourists in AZ. Room rates are really a lot less now.

you know what the best part is? there is nothing any of you can do about it. hahahah!! bend over!!!

remember the french revolution? its time for the american revolution. these son of a B’s stealing from us right in front of our faces. GRRRRRRR!!!!

I just received a letter from the Social Security administration outlining the benefits I will qualify for when
I retire. There was also a section that said I would only be entitled to 75% of the benefits because the
funds will not be there. I WONDER WHY! It is time for the worker bees to stand up and take back the hive. How
did we end with the most backward thinking people running our government when there are so many smart and
talented Americans!

FedUp wrote: “It is time for the worker bees to stand up and take back the hive. How did we end with the most backward thinking people running our government when there are so many smart and
talented Americans!”

Not only that, but these aholes in charge remind you of the GOOF-OFFS & DOPEHEADS FROM HIGH SCHOOL DAYS. It seems like the CLASS CLOWNS are now running our whole country! How the hell did this happen???

WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO STAND UP AND SAY “ENOUGH”!!!??? THESE IDIOTS ARE RUINING OUR COUNTRY!

quote from FedUp: “I just received a letter from the Social Security administration outlining the benefits I will qualify for when
I retire. There was also a section that said I would only be entitled to 75% of the benefits because the funds will not be there.”

Sorry but I don’t believe that. It would be a little more believable if you paste it here. I just got my annual notice too and it said nothing of the kind. The only thing reducing your benefit is you have not reached the full retire age yet.

Working people have paid into Social Security all of their lives, under the impression that they would get it back when they needed it—later in life.
Now we are being told “Ooops. We might not have enough money to give back to you.”
Could it be that our Social Security system will end up being the largest “Ponzi scheme” of all?

http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm
“…..Decades later, the Ponzi scheme continues to work on the “rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul” principle, as money from new investors is used to pay off earlier investors until the whole scheme collapses. For more information, please read pyramid schemes in our Fast Answers databank…..”

“Ahhh yes! I smell a federal indictment on it’s way soon!”

And, that’s exactly as it should be, if Ensign broke the law.
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Now, what do we do about Bwaney Fwank & Chuckie Schumer?

Or, that illegal immigrant that’s doing such a poor job immitating the President of the USA?

Extremist group announces split from al-Qaeda
Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:39:11 PM
The Telegraph ^ | 7/9/2009 | David Blair

North African extremist group, whose senior leaders were crucial allies of Osama bin Laden, has denounced terrorism and become the first organisation ever to leave al-Qaeda. The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), which once sought to overthrow Col Muammar Gaddafi, dealt a blow to bin Laden by reversing a decision made in 2007 to join al-Qaeda. A statement from the LIFG leadership criticised “indiscriminate bombings” and the “targeting of civilians”, saying that violence “did not achieve the aims of the group in removing oppression”. Al-Qaeda has come under mounting pressure in recent months. Missile attacks executed by American drones in…

Thank you George Bush!

Hi Doubtful…
you say you received your annual notice from Social Security and you didn’t see anything about the strong possibility of benefits being reduced?
You need to read through your statement again..carefully…read everything, even the fine print.
I do not have my current Social Security statement in front of me, but I do have the one from 2007. It says “Your estimated benefits are based on current law. Congress has made changes to the law in the past and can do so at any time. The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2041, the payroll taxes collected will be enough to pay only about 75 percent of scheduled benefits.”
OK? And again, the quote that I just typed in is on my 2007 Social Security report….BEFORE all the bailouts and tarps and spending, spending, spending that is being done by the government now in 2009. So the warning might have been updated by this point. With all the rising debt, I don’t think Social Security will even make it to 2041 (short of a miracle).

Thanks for clearing that up – they might run short by 2041. That will probably be 20 years after I am dead.

Oh well, then I guess it doesn’t make a difference to you.
You must be as old as me…or maybe older.
I’d be in my 80s by 2041, if I (or Social Security) survive that long.
I guess you don’t have children.
Both of my children would be just about ready to receive Social Security by 2041.
I’m thinking about them.

By the time you reach 2041 things will be so drastically different you won’t recognize it. There may not be any money for SS but not because it is not there. The M e x illegals and their offspring will be in charge by then and they are not going to worry about old whlte folks since they probably won’t be able to take care of themselves either and the highly complex infrastructure will have long since failed due to lack of maintenance due to 3rd world attitudes and skill levels after the bl@ck vs brown civil war that was fought over political power. Tell your children not to expect SS. It won’t happen. If you want a real world model then look at South Afrlca before bl@ck rule and then after. Or Uganda.

Plenty of room in Dayton Ohio hotels and convention center for a lot less money.

Oh…but..they need to sit by a pool with drinks in hand, surrounded by water fountains and expensive furnishings….in order to think more clearly?
Without a doubt–IF they had to pay for this conference out of their own pockets, they would have picked less expensive accomodations.
I mean, they could have held their meeting/conference in the building where they are employed.
Which is what most people (those who still have jobs) usually do.

So the Feds meet in Arizona in July? Hotter than Satan. And cheap. Sounds like a good deal to me. Train the Feds otherwise when things get screwed up Fox News & the rest of youse will be complaining even more. Unless of course you’re in Arizona in July & it’s just too hot for you to think. Fox wasn’t interested in filming the Feds spending the day inside a giant meeting room listening to training?

@WTF??
Is Bart biased… Oh H* yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott and Liz gambled their little careers, and guess what….

Hahahhaahhhaaa!!!

But hey!!! They still got this URL!!!

They are the confounders of this site…

I have worked on federal government grant programs involving training and research. I know what costs for training is reasonable and what is not. To have a hotel arrangements, speakers (never motivational), and a large meal spread is extravagant enough during a training retreat … everything else is unnecessary when federal dollars are used. This training retreat in Phoenix is only one of a handful of similar retreats hosted by the SSA and does not include the conferences that the SSA sends many of their employees to which are hosted or sponsored by other governmental agencies. We know the expected cost of this retreat in Phoenix, so add up a few of those handfuls, and you will discover that the monetary amounts spent yearly by SSA on training (which most is frivolous and is mostly a working vacations for their employees) is in the tens of millions of dollars.

Frivolous training design and faulty logistics is only a small part of the problems with SSA. It is my opinion, the bigger picture is in the form of larger misuse of funds is due to improperly trained SSA employees, not holding those employees to accountability, and a black hole called Overpayment. The Social Security Administration is not micro-managed. They don’t have to be, as they have no one they need to report to or hold themselves accountable too. SSA employees at local offices often misinform and misdirect beneficiaries as to their work reporting duties, especially those receiving SSDI.

There are many forms of disabling conditions, so imagine how a person with multiple disabilities may appear … many have some form of severe mental illness or brain injury … many of them need constant reminders about how much they can work part-time so it wouldn’t affect their benefits and how long it would take for their benefits to stop, should they feel they found the perfect job to accommodate or compliment their condition and doctors, job coaches, rehab specialists agree they can maintain full time long-term employment. On the contrary, beneficiaries are often lied to about reporting duties and rights, and even if they do report other income on a monthly basis to the SSA, it does not protect the beneficiary from an overpayment situation or placing them at risk for loosing all of their benefits at a time they are not prepared to work full time and earn enough income to cover their basic living needs.

At this time there are millions of dollars that are owed to SSA due to overpayment incidents. Many beneficiaries have lost their benefits when they were not at fault. Suddenly they have to try and live off an earned income of $800 or $900 a month from their part-time job and most do not live in subsidized arrangements or are married with a supplemental income coming into the home. To meet their expenses should they loose their SSDI benefits, they are forced to make a go at working longer hours or taking a second job when not prepared and unable to do so. Most of the time this might work for a couple years at best, but soon enough the individual’s disabling condition worsens and can no longer work at all. What occurs is a domino effect were they end up with multiple hospitalizations due to their worsened disabling condition and new disabling conditions because they pushed themselves beyond what they were capable of doing while maintaining their once stabilized condition. They ignore the suggestions of their doctors, friends, and families, just because of fear of loosing their housing, their car, their children, etc. The increased medical costs due to the worsening of their disabling conditions place further stress on Medicare and/or Medicaid systems as the beneficiary ends up requiring a higher level of care then they needed before their benefits were cut.

My thoughts are as follows … if a beneficiary is receiving SSDI, do not work at all and do not fall victim to SSA’s attempts with placing a “carrot” in their face in the form of Work Incentives such as Ticket to Work or Freedom to Work programs. SSA is constantly conspiring with state vocational rehabilitation agencies with toying with the minds and livelihoods of the disabled. Work Incentive programs have only proven since 1998 to NOT be cost-effective to the individual nor to governments. Instead, these programs cost more in spending in the long run and there are very few long-term success with the individuals who participate in these programs … so few, that Work Incentive programs are NOT cost-effective, and instead contributes to the Black Hole of mismanged funds by SSA. As a result, the monetary burden is placed on those beneficiaries who have participated in such programs when SSA decides to ‘ding’ them with an overpayment obligation. I feel it’s dreadful that SSA abuses and mistreats beneficiaries by using them as their scapegoats by penalizing them for attempting to work and improve their health, after SSA and state vocational rehabilitation agencies encouraged them utilize Work Incentive programs in the first place.

SSDI is NOT a loan program. People who cannot work full time or earn a sizeable income due to their disabilities and end up receiving SSDI, in most cases, have already paid into the system their share of taxes from their past employment(s). Some people end up on SSDI due to debilitating childhood illness or deformity which creates too many barriers to maintaining employment. Some conditions are pervasive in nature, so a middle-aged adult with Autism or ADHD could have worked hard for years, but later acquire additional illnesses such as a severe anxiety disorder or major depression, for instance. Other people get into serious accidents and sustain a debilitative head injury or acquired an illness such as re-occurring cancer, MS or ALS.

I can tell you with certainty that the SSA does not have Big Brother looking over them. In fact, SSA IS Big Brother, and their workers and administrators are well aware of this. No one is slapping their hands. They do not place their employees on probation if they did something unethical or purposely mislead beneficiaries with false information on work reporting duties. I have seen SSA employees send for their security guards to throw a beneficiary out of their office because they were crying and asking for answers when they just found out their benefits were to be suddenly cut and are required to pay back thousands of dollars. Overpayments happen even if beneficiaries reveal written proof that they showed numerous good-faith efforts with reporting their income and name of employers on a regular basis. This information is in the SSA’s computer system, but they do not want to share it with the beneficiary to compare notes, and reports which track their yearly income must be paid for by the beneficiary. Ironically, according to literature disseminated by SSA on work reporting duties, all that is written on this topic is 1) the max income that a beneficiary can earn monthly from work where they MAY still receive benefits if SSA decides and 2) that the beneficiary must report within 30 days the name of their employer and their monthly income. The literature does not say that a beneficiary much do this monthly, but only when their income changes and/or they change employers. So whether if a beneficiary reports when there is a change or they report on a monthly basis, it could take the SSA several years to make a decision about if the beneficiary is still eligible for benefits and/or if they owe an overpayment. Even if SSA may have reported to a beneficiary after their review periods (which occur every 1-3 years on average) that they determined their disability and benefits are continuing, SSA can change their minds at any time to say that they decided the beneficiary was no longer eligible for benefits and an overpayment is due. This is regardless if SSA changes their position after 3 months, 3 years, or 30 years since they had regularly decided that the beneficiary’s disability status was continuing … they can retroact their decision at any time and by many years past at their discretion. For example, a beneficiary was receiving benefits over a 5 year period and in year 2, 3 and 4 SSA had separate disability and work reviews on him which resulted in SSA determining that the beneficiary’s disability and benefits are continuing for the corresponding year. Then in Year 5, SSA decided they made a mistake and the beneficiary was actually no longer eligible for benefits since year 3. Thus, they demand every cent back of SSDI which the beneficiary lived off of monthly for Year 3, 4, and 5. Now if that beneficiary was following all the rules required on reporting their income, whose really at fault for the overpayment? You see, SSA does not inform beneficiaries that they work with outdated software and systems and must confirm income amounts with previous employers and the IRS. It is NOT required by SSA to thoroughly complete and confirm the work history before sending out a confirmation letter on the status of a beneficiary’s continued disability status. And to the beneficiary, they believe that SSA did their part with completing the review thoroughly. They are not aware of the procedures SSA use or the red tape that gets in the way. All they know is that they followed the work reporting guidelines and submitted all reviews on a timely basis with a confirmation letter that they are still eligible for benefits. Regardless, in the end, it’s the beneficiary who is ultimately held responsible … not SSA employees who have done a piss-poor job with completing the review(s) and making premature decisions.

As I said, SSA does not have a Big Brother .. they ARE Big Brother. SSA and their administrative law judges (ALJ) use different guidelines with determinating if beneficiaries are guilty, so to speak, and must owe on an overpayment. They do not care about the only literature available to beneficiaries which explains work reporting duties, nor any written proof when they submitted such information to their local SSA office, nor does the ALJ care that the beneficiaries were informed by SSA employees of the guidelines they were to follow. It only comes down to the dollar amount the person earned from work in certain years, even if the amount was obviously not enough to support them and it only supplemented the $800 or so dollars unearned from SSDI. And what’s even more disturbing, if a beneficiary participates with a Work Incentives program, especially if it allowed a beneficiary to advance in their education, their educational status is used against them by many ALJ determination if the beneficiary owes on an overpayment. For example, the higher the education, the more SSA and the ALJ assumes that the person had every opportunity to read and thoroughly understand the Social Security Act, its Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), and all reporting and collection duties. Beneficiaries are labeled guilty and must prove their innocence. The burden of proof is NOT on the state or the federal government, but instead on the beneficiary. A courtroom jury trial is fair. A hearing in front of a SSA ALJ is brutally unfair. Lots of former beneficiaries end up committing suicide or have multiple suicide attempts after loosing their benefits and are unable to achieve full time work, thus creating additional financial woes to an already broken health care system. They end up loosing everything they own and their safety due to being subjected to homelessness while waiting to get SSDI re-established.

I firmly believe that SSA employees, their supervisors, and the local offices should be held financially accountable when beneficiaries end up owing an overpayment and if those beneficiaries can demonstrate written proof of good-faith reporting of any earned income from work which the overpayment may stem from. I personally feel that if an SSA employee understands that they may be held financially responsible, then they sure as hell will make sure they understand every part of the Social Security Act and CFR and can pass a comprehensive examination on it with a 90% or better. And case in point … SSA have never required a comprehensive exam to be passed by employees on the Social Security Act nor its CFR or enforcement produres. In fact, most SSA employees have never even read the Act, which may best describe why there is so much variance among SSA employees of their knowledge about social security disability and benefits.

I’m quite positive that others who read this and have personal experience involving SSDI either by themselves or with loved ones would completely agree with this statement.

The $85/night room rate quoted in the FOX news spot is actually $10 below the GSA maximum lodging rate for Phoenix … so GSA did get a deal on the rooms.

Lets put this in perspective, though. If the total cost for 700 employees is $750K the cost/employee is $1071 per attendee. Private industry routinely pays far more for training. Shipley Associates 4-day course on “Writing and Managing Federal Proposals” costs $1595 … and its held in Fairfax, VA where hotels run a good bit higher than $85/night.

By the way, I’m not a federal employee. If we’re going to get upset about the Social Security Administration, there are bigger fish to fry. It’s a system that takes money from current wage-earners to pay benefits to retirees. An investment scam that takes money from new investors to pay dividendes to earlier investors is a Ponzi scheme. Bernard Madoff just got 150 years for running a Ponzi scheme. How many years did FDR get for foisting this scam on the American people.

You realize that this was probably set up under the previous administration as a way of channeling money into a red state.

WHY WOULD SSA EMPLOYEES NEED “TRAINING SESSIONS” ANYWAY???
ALL THEY DO IS PLUG YOUR S.S.N. INTO A COMPUTER, WHICH THEN SPITS OUT SOME BOGUS NUMBERS BASED ON SOME ARCANE & BOGUS FORMULA, THAT BASICALLY SAYS, YOU WILL RECEIVE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS EACH MONTH TO TRY TO LIVE ON.

WHAT THE HELL GOOD IS *TRAINING* THESE SYCOPHANTS??? THIS IS NOT *TRAINING,* THIS IS S.S.A. EMPLOYEES SUCKING THE TEAT OF “AUNT” SAM!!!! (AND AT *OUR* PRESENT AND FUTURE EXPENSE, TOO!)

I see “WTF” is the new Odumbo smear CZAR. Trying to change the subject from Democrat (Liberal) Odumbo administration corruption.

So, this really is not news. We all know that Odumbo and his whole government is as corrupt as they come.

Granted, seems like a lot of dough, and timing is wrong. However, $85.00 per night room cost is not exactly an outrageous expense.

One land based tomahawk launch in Afghanistan cost about $750,000.00….

perspective.

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