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Master got personally involved in health reform by getting his annual physical exam today:
http://www.goodboybo.com/2010/02/masters-physical-exam.html
Bo
It’s not just reconciliation that won’t work for ObamaCare.
NOTHING will work if it is forced on us.
Well Kent…tell it like it is…obozocare won’t work either…..
Cheap tricks and abuse of power never really work.
However, it wont stop leftists that are used to
abusing power and employing force and abuse
to pass more socialism, which is always their
magical solution to everything.
Do you mean a dem exists that does not take 100% of his/her orders directly from the annointed one???? Will wonders never cease. Maybe eventually there will be minion from CBS\NBE\ABC\CNN\AP\UP who will emerge from their hypnotic state
-Welfare Reform (1996) passed by republicans through RECONCILIATION.
-Tax Cuts (2001) passed by republicans through RECONCILIATION.
-Tax Cuts (2003) passed by republicans through RECONCILIATION.
-Children’s Health Insurance Program (1997)passed through RECONCILIATION.
-The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA) (1985) passed through RECONCILIATION.
Reconciliation whining is nothing more than a talking point used as a red herring to keep the rethugs from admitting they want to KILL any kind of healthcare reform because they are heavily supported by the insurance lobby. The rethug whining doesn’t even have anything to do with what “America” says, it’s about where their campaign money comes from.
Are they getting WeWeed UP? Are they wetting the bed? Are they crying Uncle? Are they quitting? Are they saying I GIVE? Are they Pelosied out?
Are they walking it back? Are they smelling the coffee? Are they getting the message? Are they doing an Italian charge? Are they putting it in reverse? Are they calling it quits? Are they knocking it off? Are they cutting the switch?
Can we go home now, for real?
WHATWHATWHAT– You lose.
Welfare reform –Clinton “crowning achievement” even though he fought it with 2 vetoes; it CUT spending, not created a huge new entitlement
Tax cuts– reconciliation was intended for fiscal issues such as this.
SCHIP — passed with bipartisan support from democratsCOBRA — fiscal issues in crunch time to keep government fxnl, not an optional huge entitlement that takes up 1/6 of US economy.
Robert Byrd D-WV, Klansman, invented reconciliation(to fight civil rights and integration!) and even he says it should not be used for this. 58% of American don’t want this, and does not have the consent of the governed. You lose.
The Byrd Rule mmmmm mmm mmm You know what that means. They’ll pass a new law that says old laws die with their creators and then push the old klansman down the stairs.
wutwutwut being the idiot that he is doesn’t realize those votes weren’t strictly partisan votes either, some democrats went along with each republicans each and every time they used it when in power. Reload, dipshyt.
It should have never been freakin designed in the firstplace! Our government is bunch of crooks.
The FREIGHT TRAIN of FREEDOM is speeding directly to Washington DC on a clollision course with the demoRatts.
A Yes Vote for OBAMAcare is a lifetime reservation in Gitmo comew reckoning…nov2 flush the Maoists within
Herehere! It should have never been designed in the first place. I think it’s unconstitutional. It always drives me crazy when people (Dems AND Repubs) justify terrible behavior by pointing at terrible behavior that took place in the past.
“Well, the Repubs used it this many times in the past.”
Yeah. Who cares? It’s still wrong.
America will not tolerate Tyranny!
If the Progressives in the Democrat Party impose their plan by using the Nuclear Option (a.k.a., reconciliation) not only they will be toast but the entire Democrat Party.
Oh Boy we went from a Democracy to a Tyranny in less than two years…
…..HOW IS THAT CHANGE GOING FOR YOU?
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Oh Really!!!Why don’y you change the inital D to R and get LOST, Was that line type by a INSURANCE
LOBBYIST . Many of these politicans make me sick .just stay out of the way then and let the bill pass
with a PUBLIC OPTION, so everyday americans can have access to top care regardless if they LOSE
their JOBS or not, the sooner this pass and people get on the system many years from now people will
look back at this like social security ….MANY POLITICANS HAVE A CHANCE TO BE HERO.
GO ahead democrats use it , YOU will be punished by WE THE PEOPLE in nov .
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No one is talking about this yet, but the next big explosion in the economy is coming thanks to the “credit card reforms” of our dear leader. I have received my first statement since the change and my interest rate went up 20% after years of a stable rate. My minimum payment went up 50%. People who are in trouble with their debt are going to implode in the next few months. Thank you, Dummycrats!
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Finally, some common sense coming from Kent Conrad. Not that he finally realizes that Obama is a LOSER or that he actually wants to get reelected or anything right? 
SURE, it’s WRONG! I commend Conrad for at least having the gumption to say it to the American people on live TV though. IT WON’T WORK!!
It is a LOSE LOSE situation for the Democrats if you ask me. If they go against the WILL of the American people and try to pass this monstrosity through reconciliation they will LOSE BIG TIME in November, even if it passes. If it doesn’t pass through reconciliation they will LOSE BIG TIME in November too because the American people will be mad as HELL that they tried to use reconciliation in the first place when knowing full well that the vast majority of Americans DON’T WANT IT!!
Do the Dems really realize they force this down the throats of Americans? Or is this another smoke screen for us to focus on while they do whatever they please behind our backs? http://www.thefedupamerican.com
government intervention = disaster February 28th, 2010 – 7:44 pm
No one is talking about this yet, but the next big explosion in the economy is coming thanks to the “credit card reforms” of our dear leader. I have received my first statement since the change and my interest rate went up 20% after years of a stable rate. My minimum payment went up 50%. People who are in trouble with their debt are going to implode in the next few months. Thank you, Dummycrats! — Yeah, an easy way to escape from that is BANKRUPTCY! Declare bankruptcy and 18 months later you’ll have so many credit card offers, you won’t know what to do with them. Screw the credit card companies!
Poison pill number one on the Democratic Deathmarch is the Stupak Amendment.
Support the Stupak Amendment…..NO taxpayer funded abortions. If it isn’t the deathblow in the House it does great damage to the bill and will cost Democrats time.
Support the Stupak Amendment….NO taxpayer funded abortions.
Whatwhatwhat February 28th, 2010 – 4:20 pm
I warned you you little sh1t stain!
You can keep your Socialist/Marxist opinions to yourself! You are NOT a Liberal!! I am a Liberal and I know the difference between Liberal and Socialist/Marxism!! You, on the other hand, are living breathing garbage! I hope the cinch is loose and they don’t stretch the rope for you when this all pans out you Communist POS!!
Texans…Opt out of ObamaCare…vote Medina on Tuesday!
Remember, between Perry & Huchinson, they have 50+ in politics…they are a big part of what got us into this catastrophe.
Perry: former campaign manager in Texas for Al Gore, an active participant to the largets expansion of the state budget in the history of Texas.
Huchison: best buddy with Bush, 16+ years in Washington, an active participant to the largest expansion of the federal government in the history of the USA.
Reconciliation is all about the budget and Obamacare is not a budgetary item. They can not pass it on a budgetary voting process. That is why it was said there would be a long amendment process because everything that is not a budgetary item.
This is one of the only things I have been on Sen. Conrad’s side. He is right, reconciliation would not work on the bill, they would have to rip and tear it apart. The Rep Blackburn was right also, it should not be used at all because America does not want this and the process would be a destruction of the reconciliation process.
SOURCE OF NEWS ON HEALTH CARE: http://www.americanparchment.com
None of the things triple nut case whatwhatwhat were passed by reconciliation. Their budges, after they were passed through normal means, were adjusted through reconciliation, which is what it was designed for.
Whatwhatwhat is simply doing what he does best, besides drooling and frothing.
HE IS LYING.
The tax cuts were not new bills, but part of previously passed budgets. One of them (what dumbass whatwhatwhat is calling a new bill, for example is shown here in detail. Notice the actual name, RECONCILIATION built into it. This was done in complete accord with the intent of Reconciliation, invented by Democrats (Byrd). Notice also that this is a bill “pursuant to section 104″ of a previously passed budget.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress – 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Conference Report (H.R.1836, Conference Report )
Vote Number: 170 Vote Date: May 26, 2001, 11:25 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Conference Report Agreed to
Measure Number: H.R. 1836 (Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 )
Measure Title: A bill to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 104 of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2002.
Vote Counts: YEAs 58
NAYs 33
Present 2
Not Voting 7
Triple nut case is simply a lying leftist troll hired by Huffingglue post.
I am absolutely correct. ALL of those bills passed under RECONCILIATION. The reich-wing conservo-Rethug liars are just making excuses. Your rethug politicians know full well they’ve used reconciliation.
If you want to be honest why don’t you just stand on your reich-wing, insurance lobby prostituted “principles” and admit you want NO healthcare reform of any kind. Tell the people you want to kill healthcare reform at all costs and that “we need to start over” BS is a delaying tactic in hopes you win enough seats to kill it and keep it dead.
Tell the truth and stop the lies…if you dare.
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