Reid on Senate Health Bill Delay: Republicans Wanted More Time

MSNBC: Democratic divisions in Congress stalled President Barack Obama's health care overhaul Thursday, with Majority Leader Harry Reid now saying that the Senate will not pass a reform bill before the August recess. During a health care event with this leadership team, he said, "The decision was made to give the Senate Finance Committee more time." Reid added that it was better to have "a product based on thoughtfulness rather than jam something through."

July 23, 2009 at 1:22 pm - ABC News
Dateline: Washington DC
CommonSense   July 23rd, 2009 - 1:37 pm

It always amazes me how well rats swim.

JP   July 23rd, 2009 - 1:39 pm

but..but…but..Nancy Puglose said she had the v..v..votes.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   July 23rd, 2009 - 1:57 pm

Dear America…Under a government run healthcare system we will be taking the decision of giving continued care to a patient away from the family! That is wrong anyway you look at it!

That is why we don’t need an “overhaul” of the best healthcare in the world!

We need it “tweeked” not “overhauled”! We need it “tweeked” by a range of medical personnel (not necessarily endorsed by the AMA) who know of what they speak.

We need to take the healthcare system and pick it apart piece by piece.

We can start with medicines/drugs! Let’s just begin with this piece because this is where costs are exorbitant for citizens.

Let us get a group of pharmacists, doctors, nurses, etc and let them sift through our programs and policies and come up with a couple of alternatives on what to do.

Then let them tweek that again before presenting a full report and decision to the American people and then to Congress for passing!

Then let’s go on to another portion of healthcare…emergency rooms!

Let’s get a group of Emergency room doctors, nurses, etc. Let them sift over the problems with emergency care and come up with a solution.

Then, again, let them tweeked and tweek until they have a solution. Then present it to the American people and then to Congress for passage.

And on and on and on until we tweek all the problems of our existing healthcare!

Americans want to keep their healthcare as is, they want control over their healthcare, not the government! They want to make the decision of whether or not they, or their loved ones needs further treatment. If they are paying for this treatment, they should be allowed to do whatever they want…period!

America…keep calling your Senators/House Reps and tell them NO>>>NO>>>NO to government run healthcare!

Tell them we all admit we need to have the system “tweeked” not overhauled!

We want it done systematically…one step at a time! Not in just six months, one year or even two years…we want it to take as long as it takes to do it and do it RIGHT!

NO WAY…JOSE!

Sunnyr   July 23rd, 2009 - 2:09 pm

Harry Reid: Proof that ferrets can breed with humans and produce a wimpy,whiney little offspring.

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jason   July 23rd, 2009 - 2:17 pm

Huh, guess Dear Leader won’t be pleased with this news.
Maybe Rahm will ask Harry and Pelosi over for a good lesson in martial arts and then send them on their way.

Obama is losin’ it and it’s great. See how Dear Leader’s face lit up when it came to the question of race at his propaganda snoozefest last night?

This guy will be a lame duck like Carter but only after he destroys any chance of an economic recovery.
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ivanhoe   July 23rd, 2009 - 2:28 pm

Want to tweak a medical system? How about assistance with medical education for those with the grades to get through; then some por bono work to get licensed?
How about credits for years worked as in: work 10 years X premium, 30 yrs X premium
Never worked?/ illegal alien? Sorry.

JC   July 23rd, 2009 - 2:33 pm

Oh Oh! Harry Reid is going to get the scolding by Pelosi when he gets back.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   July 23rd, 2009 - 2:40 pm

Dear Ivanhoe…good suggestions…lots can be done without “overhauling”!

America…I challenge you to send “your” suggestions on “areas” they can “tweek”…to your Senators/House Reps!

America…there is a way to correct the injustices in our existing system without throwing the “baby out with the bath water”!

Thank you, Ivanhoe, for those thoughts!

ADD THIS TO THE 1000+ PAGES   July 23rd, 2009 - 3:02 pm

Probably nobody has read the 1000+ pages, but while they’re mucking around with them… PLEASE ADD THIS:

1. PATIENT MEDICAL RECORDS *BELONG TO* (ARE THE PROPERTY OF) THE PATIENT. THEY TRAVEL WITH THE PATIENT. IT IS THE PATIENT’S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY RECEIVE A WRITTEN SUMMARY OF EVERY DOCTOR VISIT AND EVERY PRESCRIPTION, PROCEDURE, ETC. PERFORMED ON THEIR BEHALF. PATIENTS ARE ENTITLED TO *FREE* MEDICAL REPORTS AT THE END OF EVERY DOCTOR AND HOSPITAL VISIT. HOSPITALS AND DOCTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO PURGE PATIENT MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT FIRST CONTACTING THE PATIENT AND MAKING SURE PATIENT HAS ALL THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR CONTINUED MEDICAL TREATMENT.

2. A PATIENT FEEDBACK DATABANK WILL BE CREATED THAT PERMITS EVERY PATIENT TO “SCORE” (GRADE) DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS AND OTHER MEDICAL SERVICES AND SUPPLIES/SUPPLIERS. THIS CENTRAL DATABANK OF DOCTOR SUMMARIES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN, SO THAT THEY CAN CHECK THE PERFORMANCE RECORD AND REPUTATION OF EVERY DOCTOR AND HOSPITAL *PRIOR* TO SUBMITTING TO THESE AGENCIES/AGENTS FOR MEDICAL CARE.

3. INSURANCE AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO PROCESS CLAIMS PROMPTLY, WITHIN 30 DAYS MAXIMUM, SO THAT BOTH PATIENTS AND MEDICAL PROVIDERS RECEIVE PROMPT INFORMATION AND COMPENSATION ON ALL CLAIMS.

4. NO NON-CITIZEN IS ENTITLED TO “FREE” MEDICAL CARE IN THE UNITED STATES BORDERS.

NOW *THAT* IS THE BEGINNING OF SOME REAL MEDICAL REFORM!

Larse   July 23rd, 2009 - 3:39 pm

Thank you Eileen for taking the time to post often.

There is no problem with health care that cannot be addressed one issue at a time and solved without Socializing the entire system ala England, Canada.

Old Larse :D   July 23rd, 2009 - 3:56 pm

The Heathcare reform bill is very long and complex. If they need more time to get it right that is fine. The President is correct in pushing for deadlines or nothing would get done. But in this case, letting it take the time in needs is a good thing.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   July 23rd, 2009 - 3:58 pm

Dear ADD THIS TO THE 1000+ PAGES…well here are some more great suggestions to start with…America!

If average citizens, like you and I, can come up with areas to improve piece by piece, why can’t Washington!

When you have citizens who can come up with these suggestions, how much better can a medical professional who knows the system and procedures throughly!

That is where it must begin America…not this government run healthcare package that is being forced down the throats of the American taxpayer by Bilderberg Bush-Obama and the Democratzi!

America…express yourself…continue with your ideas and express them to your Senators/House Reps!

Let’s show them how it should be done!

Let’s show them how it can be done that will satisfy all the concerns of all Americans!

We need medical professionals involved…we need to take it piece by piece and we need to take as long as it takes to get it done RIGHT!

Not OVERNIGHT…RIGHT!

kmichaels   July 23rd, 2009 - 4:17 pm

Funny thing, show one thing that the government does well. The best government thing we have is the US Military and that the democrats tend to hate and disrespect for the most part. And they do well because they tend to be allowed to make the relevant choices themselves without too much government control. And even then most dems say they waste too much money. So again, why have the government run even more things? It makes absolutely zero sense.

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The Death Care Act of 2009   July 23rd, 2009 - 4:21 pm

Seniors are being misled by AARP on this. They are calling up and telling members to call their rep and tell them to vote for it –

On page 430 of the 2009 (Death) Care Act we find:

(B) The level of treatment …may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions … (iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.

What “level of treatment”? Huh?

Buried in the arcane Death Care Act’s 1,000 pages of detail is this little description of how the government will dictate to you, educate you and control your very survival with an “order regarding life sustaining treatment.”

See, you might give “indications” that the “specified interventions” known as “nutrition and hydration” need to be taken away from you. The vigilant government must be hyper-attentive to starve and dehydrate [useless people] to death, at any time.

You may not be surprised to find out that “you” don’t need to give consent to your own murder. Only a theoretical “you” is really required. That’s one of the “options” Uncle Barack is going to supplement you with.

more at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104710

kmichaels   July 23rd, 2009 - 4:58 pm

Reid, never one to miss an opportunity to lie to the viewers pointed the finger at Republicans wanting more time. Fine, we do, since the current bill is outrageously counter productive and wasteful. However, Reid does not need the reps to get it passed. Some dems wanted more time is what he should have said. Because some dems are coming to the conclusion that their stupid arses are about to be voted out of office if we get one more stupid wasteful counterproductive socialistic crap forced down our throats.

Liberals Are Parasites   July 23rd, 2009 - 5:59 pm

Now is the time to start putting pressure on the reps and senators folks. Make the calls NOW.

JohnnyAmerican   July 23rd, 2009 - 7:24 pm

This is the most lying man I have seen and heard since Nancy Pelois. All these people are trying to do is sell us a bill a goods that will never work. if you listen to what he said, “we are trying to put together a product”?????? in other words one with double speak and more red tape. No thank you Mr Reid. You and Mr Frank, Ms Pelois and Barbara Boxer should be taken out and shot for treason. End of story, then we can vote the rest out of office.

WHICH WILL IT BE?   July 24th, 2009 - 6:02 am

The market economy or capitalism, as it is usually called, and the socialist economy preclude one another. There is no mixture of the two systems possible or thinkable; there is no such thing as a mixed economy…Production is directed by the market or by the decrees of a production tsar.
–MISES, LUDWIG VON, Human Action: A Treatise on Economics, The Market

…There is simply no other choice than this: either to abstain from interference in the free play of the market, or to delegate the entire management of production and distribution to the government. Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no middle way.
–MISES, LUDWIG VON, Liberalism

NOT BROKEN, LEAVE IT ALONE   July 27th, 2009 - 2:42 am

Why don’t they FIX Medicare, Medicaid, and VETS ADMINISTRATION medical programs, and leave the rest of us alone?

If you want to see how a government (public option) health system will work, look at the V.A.!!! HORRORS!!!!

The health care system in America is NOT BROKEN! LEAVE IT ALONE, AND FIX THE FEDERAL HEALTH PROGRAMS ALREADY IN PLACE.

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