Protesters Interrupt President’s Speech From Jefferson’s Monticello Home

"We believe in free speech in the United States of America."

July 4, 2008 at 2:23 pm - Reuters
Dateline: Charlottesville, Virginia

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Tubby   July 4th, 2008 - 2:50 pm

These “protesters” never cease to amaze me. They claim they are under the thumb of a “dictator” and a facist government, yet I have never heard of any being hauled off to jail for years and years, or being excecuted for their random outbursts. Infact, just as this video shows the very man they are angry with is defending their right to yell and voice their opinions even to the point of interupting his speech.
If leftwing nuts in the USA really felt they were being stiffled in their civil rights they would not dare voice that opinion in the very presence of the person they blame for doing the stiffling because of the dreadful reprocusions that would befall them if there premise were actually true.
The fact is they simply loath themselves and hate American military power that liberates and emancipates people because it exposes the Marxist lie that the USA is a imperialist power hungry country.
Happy 4th everyone!!!

Big Jim   July 4th, 2008 - 4:25 pm

There are some people in America that hate this good man. Not because he did anything wrong or said, but because he beat Al Gore and John Kerry. God bless this mane for doing that.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 4:28 pm

No, America hates Jorge Bush, because he sold out America to the Mexican immigrants.

OsamasPajamas   July 4th, 2008 - 4:35 pm

“BUSH ATTACKED BY GAS-BAGS” THE HEADLINE MIGHT HAVE READ. LET THE ANGRY LEFT INTO DECISIVE POWER, TO METASTASIZE EVERYWHERE — AND AMERICA IS FINISHED AS A FREE NATION. NOW THAT’S NOT VERY “LIBERAL” — IS IT?

YI HA ***
MINISTER OF INFORMATION
PEOPLES’ CAPITALIST REPUBLIC OF WHIZBANGISTAN

*** PRONOUNCED “YEEEE HAAAAAAA!!!”

peter c   July 4th, 2008 - 4:36 pm

This is how the BBC portays us over there.There are huge liberals too.
But here these kids who screams their bloody anger are just examples of more rich college kids who have been inductrinated their whole life by Leftie,Marxist teachers and phony so-called Christian leaders.They hate Bush because they are told to hate him by the likes of spineless creeps like Obama,Olberman,Matthews,MSNBC,NBC,Hollywood phonies,the DMC,Reid,Pelosi,The N.Y.Times and The Rolling Stone Magazine,Newsweek and Time magazines… along with many other secular-athiests in the media.The facts are we have NOT been attacked since 9/11 Iraq is do better and we will drill for oil here .These kids spend their own families money to go and insult the President of the Unied States?Then paint Nazi swastikas on our flag,they love animals more than humans.the believe that a baby in a Mother’s womb is just some tissue grwoing there and not a human baby and have no guilt at all when it is turned around and pulled out to it’s neck to have it’s brains sucked out who no pain killers at all while it cries and moves it’s arms and legs to get away from the pain.Then they say they are for peace?And why is it that the so-valled peace movement)Pinks and socialists) are the ones who start all the hate and violence and stop others from speaking their mind like this time and like many at our so-called universities?Because it’s and old Soviet play…to scream louder and call their opponent a nazi etc…to get over in the debate.Obama is doing it now…he is setting it up so that when anyone questions his insane policys they are either a racist or a crazy far right Christian.

Lionheart   July 4th, 2008 - 4:36 pm

Welcome to the United States home of the lefty looney tunes! That is all these folks managed to accomplish.

Sad that they must be such purveyors of hate. Sad part of all of it is, that should these people checked into the news they took for gospel, they would have understood how unfounded their understandings of current affairs truly is. It is no wonder that MSM is struggling for advertising revenues.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 4:36 pm

America hates Bush the below also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwnDVsbgWc&feature=related

Della in Clifton   July 4th, 2008 - 4:40 pm

Don’t these old pink ladies have better things to do.

Tubby   July 4th, 2008 - 4:40 pm

lou dobbs fan, the illegal immigrant problem in this country pre-dates Geo. Bush by about 20 years.
It’s true he did not do much to stem the flood and for that he deserves to be held accountable but I think to lay all the blame on him is inaccurate.
I do respect your comment.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 4:40 pm

How fitting that Jorge Bush gets heckled for letting in even more immigrants in this most desire times for my nation.

sickntired   July 4th, 2008 - 4:41 pm

This “good man” as you call him attacked 2 countries without the authority of congress…authority that can ONLY be granted by congress. We ARE living under the thumb of a dictator…wake up. Just because their gestapo haven’t started rounding people up doesn’t mean that they aren’t planning on doing it. I challenge you to START PAYING ATTENTION to the corporate sponsored media. Tell me how many stories they run about your rights, your freedom or the steps that are being acted out to take them from you. Also, start paying attention to how they are sure to pass judgement against anyone who questions their government. Look, my father retired a CMD SGM in the US Army, I am a patriot. I am very proud of my father and his career. He has even admitted himself that there were things he saw during his career that he couldn’t believe were going on. He also mentioned that you don’t speak of these things when you have a wife and 6 kids to support. The truth is out there…I challenge everyone to look for it. Do you really think these rich corporate bloodsuckers really care about you or your family…or do they manipulate everyone and everything to increase their bottom line? Wake up America…we don’t have much time.

boB   July 4th, 2008 - 4:44 pm

It’s amazing how these liberal CHILDREN think they are oppressed when Roosevelt did MUCH more during WWII than Bush has. AND, I don’t see anyone stopping them as a true fascist government would. MOST importantly, I guess paying HONOR to our founding fathers and the sacrifices it took to create this great nation, which is PRECISELY what INDEPENDENCE DAY (not the 4th) is for, would be beyond their comprehension or ability. Shame on these robots…

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 4:45 pm

Dude, i could care less if you disloyal Bush lovers agree with me or not. Twenty years ago, there was not really a security reason to protect our borders. After 9/11, we should have done more to secure our borders, instead Jorge Bush did less. Fact is, you Jorge Bush lovers do nothing but make excuses, while we lose entire states to the illegal immigrants. That is why i left that bankrupt, excuse making party last year.

boB   July 4th, 2008 - 4:45 pm

Sickntired: “This “good man” as you call him attacked 2 countries without the authority of congress…” You need to start to LEARN things instead of parroting what you hear on Air America. Congress gave Bush the AUTHORIZATION to use force if he, as Commander in Chief, deemed necessary. If they had not, he could only have sent troops in for 90 days by law. Since I don’t see Congress ordering him to bring them back, AND they keep authorizing the funds (which is their power), doesn’t that tell you something? Don’t be mad at Bush. Congress can stop this war in 90 days by just voting to rescind funding. The Democrats control Congress overwhelmingly. So what’s the problem then?

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 4:51 pm

And worse, we could have nominated Tom Trancredo. But no, we had to give the nomination to Mccain who favors the same illegal immigration policy as Jorge Bush and Obama Osama. No sir, the Republican party left me, when Bush became President.

GJE   July 4th, 2008 - 4:53 pm

“good man”??? Really…???

I don’t think George Bush is evil, but I surely don’t think he’s either a misunderstood saint or simply a good guy picked on by the left. George Bush, and America itself, are culpable for a few transgressions during the past 8 years or so. Invading countries. Pissing off groups and nations we didn’t need to piss off to begin with. Selling are integrity and economic soul away. Point at Bush, but remember to point the finger at yourself too because you most likely supported or allowed these things to transpire too.

Actually, I could not think of a better salute to the supposed glorious Founding Fathers and Jefferson and the freedom of speech than standing up and shouting your discontent at the current government while the de facto leader of the federal government gives a scripted speech.

Also, when are you suppose to protest and make a scene? When no one is there to be offended or able to make them think?

sickntired   July 4th, 2008 - 4:58 pm

boB,
The “problem” goes deeper than just Bush. It is the corporatization of our government and monetary system. It is the corporate sponsored media who has ties to companies who don’t want the truth coming out. Who is profiting from the “wars” in Iraq and Afghanistan? ANSWER: Aegis Defense Services, BearingPoint, Inc., Bechtel, BKSH and Associates, CACI International and Titan Corp., hallibirton, Lockheed Martin, Loral Satellite, Custer Battles, Qualcom etc. Our free press has been overthrown, isn’t it obvious??
Stop treating the MSM as gospel and do your own research. If you don’t you’re just another sheeple waiting to be slaughtered.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 5:01 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwnDVsbgWc&feature=related

Q. Was it worth?

A. Hell no!

DaleW   July 4th, 2008 - 5:04 pm

Sickntired, you should change your name to sicknsenile. Bush had the approval of Congress. sheesh, get a clue before you spew your hate.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 5:06 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6W2uWdIBRY&feature=related

Was her life worth it? Nope

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   July 4th, 2008 - 5:08 pm

for bOb et al:

This Bush-piglet LIED to congress, the UN and the world to get his little adventure in Iraq. Don’t you get that? It isn’t AIR AMERICA who told us he lied. It’s his government’s own PAPER TRAIL. That has nothing to do with AIR AMERICA.

Where did you learn to attack Liberals, Lefties, and anyone NOT REPUBLICAN or EVEANGELLICAL JESUS LOVERS?

WHERE?

Oh, that’s right RUSH LIMBAUGH – the heroin addict…who was higher than a kite during the ramp-up to invasion. You ever wonder why he was drugging himself? Conscience. He shouldered the burden of convincing ignorant rabid vipers like yourselves of a LIE. You’d gobble heroin pills too if you knew you were about to aid and abett the crime of the century.

So considering YOUR source of speculation and judgement Versus the PAPER TRAIL out of our own government, I think I’ll take the LATTER as the truth.

That said; you just go on and keep supporting a man who has murdered 4000 US Men and Women and 400,000 Iraqi Men and Women and CHILDREN with his UNJUSTIFIED ‘WARFARE’ against a nation that had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

Okay? Make you feel proud on this day? You follow a Murderer and a Liar. For 8 years now all of you have sounded exactly like the people who followed Hitler! Zieg Heil!

BTW: The ’student’s you refer to look like they’re in their thirties. Sorry to blow your perpetual dellusions of Ivory Tower Liberals.

BTW2: what do your call your Ivory Tower Professors at Liberty College or bob Jones?

Hmmm…we gotta find a name for that. Learned men just doesn’t fit the bill.

RickS   July 4th, 2008 - 5:09 pm

I still love Bush’s swagger. To hell with the few gutless pukes who can’t stand the United States’ role in keeping the world free.

God Bless George W. Bush.

God Bless The Queen.

God Bless America!

******************

Infowars   July 4th, 2008 - 5:12 pm

All you facist bootlicking scumbags who are apologetic to George Bush and his administration are nothing but cowardly scum that doesn’t deserve the title “American” you are a bunch of traitors that don’t have any honor for your country or the laws, or the Constitution much less your own rights. You are shameful little pieces of DUNG hung out to dry by those whose butts you kiss. Sit and spin!

Ana Sarcas   July 4th, 2008 - 5:12 pm

Idiots. They think they are doing something big, but all they succeed in is ruining part of the ceremony for some. The rest ignore them.

Do they seriously think they are going to make a difference in anything? No, they want to be seen and heard for their own egos.

James Swartwout   July 4th, 2008 - 5:13 pm

Liberals… Their rhetoric never seems to jibe with their actions. Here they are at a welcoming ceremony for America’s newest citizens, folks whom I’d like to point out became citizens in the correct manner, and these dolts have to go and mar the occasion with their ignorance. I can’t think of a more disrespectful act that what’s in this video. In all likelihood all they’ve accomplished is turning each and every one of those new citizens into a card-carrying conservative. I know if I was new here and hadn’t yet decided on a political affiliation, I sure wouldn’t want to be affiliated with the party of ignorance, disrespect, and lack of character, which was clearly on full display.

I for one, would like to congratulate all of our newly minted citizens, and offer them a hearty Welcome to America! Please don’t judge us all by the actions of a few. Please note that none of those protesters will be carted off to the gulags for “political reorientation,” as we have the right to make complete fools of ourselves here in your new home without fear of prosecution. We don’t necessarily encourage it, but you now have that right yourself.

rplat   July 4th, 2008 - 5:14 pm

They should have taken those brain dead idiots out and kicked their dumb asses.

Chris Walker   July 4th, 2008 - 5:15 pm

The left-wing pinheads don’t know when to stop, nor do they have any class… Years ago, when my mother was going through her natualization ceremony in NYC, I was going through the U.S. Air Force Academy and I was not allowed to leave to go attend my mother’s naturalization. I do know, however, that if I had, and there were some bozos yelling and ruining the ceremony for her, I would probably be in jail today for cracking open the skulls of those retards…
They twits need to get a life. 90% of them don’t even know why they hate Bush… Take “Sickntired” for instance… This fool doesn’t even know what he/she is talking about, and has the nerve to prove that fact by writing on this forum. But that is typical in this country… A bunch of ignorant haters…

Grummis   July 4th, 2008 - 5:15 pm

Isn’t there a Gas Station Prayer Vigil you all need to be at?

Gotta Pray to Jeeeeeeebus that the Gas Prices will go down!

Good Luck with that….BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Only Chumps support the Chimp. That’s all that’s left. The Good Men and Women of the Republican Party have woken up, are crossing the ballot line and will not be voting to return you chumps to power.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH (the sequel)

Spotter6   July 4th, 2008 - 5:16 pm

View first link….and read the other items….

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/12142/?ck=1

One time to learn from the French.
Yes, the French!
Want to know why the French of WWII gave in so quickly to Germans. Liberals! After WWI, children/boys were taught not to speak out or take risk.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/thomas-sowell.html?columnsName=tso

A few paragraphs…
During the First World War, France fought on against the German invaders for four long years, despite having more of its soldiers killed than all the American soldiers killed in all the wars in the history of the United States, put together.
But during the Second World War, France collapsed after just six weeks of fighting and surrendered to Nazi Germany.
At the bitter moment of defeat the head of the French teachers’ union was told, “You are partially responsible for the defeat.”
At the outset of the invasion, both German and French generals assessed French military forces as more likely to gain victory, and virtually no one expected France to collapse like a house of cards — except Adolf Hitler, who had studied French society instead of French military forces.
Did patriotism matter? It mattered more than superior French tanks and planes.
Most Americans today are unaware of how much our schools have followed in the footsteps of the French schools of the 1920s and 1930s, or how much our intellectuals have become citizens of the world instead of American patriots.
Our media are busy verbally transforming American combat troops from heroes into victims, just as the French intelligentsia did— with the added twist of calling this “supporting the troops.”

Jeebus Slucks Clocks   July 4th, 2008 - 5:16 pm

They should have arrested the president right there on the spot and kicked his dumb ass.

ROGER   July 4th, 2008 - 5:20 pm

It never ceases to amaze me that the very people who should be grateful to live in the land of the free and home of the brave are the ones who are the most critical. I wonder how many of these people would take up arms to defend their rights? Or would they rather criticize others while the country goes down the tubes? Do not confuse them withe facts for they cannot handle the truth, which is why they hate Christians.

sickntired   July 4th, 2008 - 5:22 pm

There was never a “Declaration of War.” Why are there still troops over there? Saddam is dead, they have a new government. Why is there a base being built that is bigger than the Vatican? Where are the WMDs? Where is Osama bin Laden? Why have some the hi-jackers from the 911 attacks been found alive and living in Saudi Arabia? Why did we attack Iraq and Afghanistan if the majority of the terrorists were from Saudi? Why are border patrol agents being sent to the middle east? Why hasn’t there been another attack even though our borders are more porous than before 911? Why are requests for a real investigation of 911 laughed at? If they are innocent, what’s the problem? Why haven’t the stories about the 1st responders to the WTC attacks being sick and dieing from toxic fumes made it on the MSM? How did 2 steel frame building collapse from fire(they are the only ones in history to do so)? Building 7 wasn’t hit by a plane, why did it collapse at free fall speed? Ever see the video of Larry Silverstein admitting that they decided to “pull” WTC 7? Pull is a demolition term for a planned demolition. You people are in denial because you can’t believe that your government would ever do such a thing… well, your government has been overthrown…and you are being brainwashed by that box in the livingroom. Don’t be afraid to learn the truth, it will set you free. It doesn’t matter what other people think of you…just open your minds up to the probability that maybe, just maybe your government doesn’t have your best interests at heart.

David E. Powell   July 4th, 2008 - 5:26 pm

I feel really sorry for those people who on July Fourth were becoming American Citizens and had it interrupted by the Code Pink Hag Squad.

Right or Left wing who cares they should have picked a better time, they rained all over these people on what should be a very proud day, becoming citizens omn July 4 with the President there. The protestors won’t be punished by the “Evil American Regime” they say they hate, nor should they, but they should be ASHAMED of themselves for doing that there and ruining it ofr those people! ASHAMED.

Spotter6   July 4th, 2008 - 5:31 pm

sickntired – the only people profiting are you and 37 million Americans (and others free people around the world). Don’t worry about the businesses. Since 1776, businesses come and go, but FREEDOM stays for every!!!!

Jeebus Slucks Clocks – President Bush is an awesome Commander in Chief! That’s not opinion or viewpoint, I know first hand. It’s been eight great years for the military.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 5:33 pm

Fact is, Reagan gave us an opportunity to have a permanent republican majority for a generation. Instead Jorge Bush destroyed that opportunity for a generation. Just like everything else the retard has touched. That is one of the reasons why i left the republican party.

Thanks for nothing Jorge,

dsavid leanard   July 4th, 2008 - 5:35 pm

“…Liberals… Their rhetoric never seems to jibe with their actions….”

Whatever that means! Typical Conservative double speak.

“…Here they are at a welcoming ceremony for America’s newest citizens…and these dolts have to go and mar the occasion with their ignorance…”

Excuse me. It’s called democracy in action. You don’t like it? Move to Russia -home of the ONE PARTY RULE which republicans dream of. Or Iran – Home to the worldest best Theocracy!

“…In all likelihood all they’ve accomplished is turning each and every one of those new citizens into a card-carrying conservative…”

Uh, Beg to differ: Those new citizens got a taste of America and whats RIGHT about it. Those immigrants are also of different Colors and Races and Religions and Orientations.

Unless those new citizens were WHITE/STRAIGHT/EVANGELLICAL CHRISTIANS WITH MONEY…

Like hell they’ll turn conservative.

Plus, They all know what a loser GW BUSH has been to the world. They came here for AMERICAN FREEDOMS guarenteed by the CONSTITUTION for the INDIVIDUAL. Not Bush’s Destruction of the Constitution and the Destruction of the Middle Class. Also, not to see some ignorant mumble-jumble jerk giving a speech about a concept (America) he can’t stand.

The only party of ignorance in America is the Republican party – who hate Free men and women of all races (except white) all religions (except christianity) all classes (except white – rich) and all sexual orientions (except white straights).

I for one want to welcome these new citizens to our country. It is a melting pot. It is built on diversity and imagination: Where you can stand up and be heard (before being hauled away).

Welcome, and please don’t worry; the republican party is a repulsive vomit spot on American history and will be banished to the Right-wing-nut fringes after nov. 08.

Understand it’s not their fault. They have been indoctrinated with hate from their white parents and their white pastors from their birth. In order to inherit their money from their parents they have acted exactly the same as their parents which is this:

“Hate has it’s Privillages”

Know this and vote democratic and you’ll have the ONLY FAIR CHANCE you’ll ever have in this country of making a life for you and your family unmolested by Armmageddon Wagging slobs.

Vote republican and get a Coast to coast AM Tin Foil Hat and commemorative Big Foot Plate from the Lincoln Mint.

John Wayne   July 4th, 2008 - 5:35 pm

no tencommandmentforme,,,,
your delusional!!! what asylum are you at that has computers.. your so called lie was based on 24 violations by??? oh you know his name Suddam Hussien………………………………………………………..we invaded and did what the U.N has not the balls to do……………..
just look at what that headjab dill weed of a man is doin in iran.. when we attack him will you then years latr start blaming another president

DaleW   July 4th, 2008 - 5:38 pm

Dsavid, man, your bile is exceeded in it adolescence only by its volume. How embarrassing to be you.

Chukkal   July 4th, 2008 - 5:38 pm

The Liberal Left hates free speech!!! Otherwise they would let the President speak…

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   July 4th, 2008 - 5:41 pm

John Wayne: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

The United Nations and the American Investigators found NOTHING and wrote reports that Saddam had dismantled and destroyed his weapons. Bush had PLENTY of material telling him there was nothing.

Even Hans Blix head of the UN Team signed off. As did Wilson, and several other American Investigators.

What did Bush do? Ignore it. Why?

well maybe your pebble brain can understand this word. It’s only three little letters long, and two of them are vowels. Here goes:

O-I-L

Another word that describes you: SHORT ON MEMORY.

In Fact. We CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVIDE A LINK TO THE GOVERNMENT REPORT ON THE FOUND WMDS.

If you cannot do that then YOU are the liar. And so is your president.

As far as that man in IRAN. His country has not attacked anyone in 800 years. And he simply has no power to do so anyway, as his armies were DECIMATED by a US/BUSH SENIOR BACKED SADDAM HUSSEIN (hey, funny that!).

Get an education and stop drinking kool-aid with your ‘Doom’ sessions.

Jeebus Slucks Clocks   July 4th, 2008 - 5:46 pm

From Spotter6

“…Jeebus Slucks Clocks – President Bush is an awesome Commander in Chief! That’s not opinion or viewpoint, I know first hand. It’s been eight great years for the military….”

Isn’t he the same president who refused to accept MILITARY VOTES in the general election of 2004?

You know why? Cause they were TRENDING to KERRY.

Your vote wasn’t even counted!

BWAHAHAAHAHA

Now how’s that for a Patriot? Cheating with the Ballot Box every chance he gets?

Here’s the only truth you need, mt fellow american:

He has murdered 400,000 Iraqi Men women and Children based on a LIE.

Now, you call that awesome…

I call it sick. Like him, you need Professional Help. And thanks to the Democrat’s new DEFENSE/GI BILL – You can get it.

Susan Clearfield   July 4th, 2008 - 5:52 pm

Liberals are such pushy, hateful fools.

kelvin   July 4th, 2008 - 5:54 pm

God Bless America! Happy 232nd Birthday! Welcome to the new American citizens.

Code Pinko Marxists are an embarrassment to this nation. Saddam never gassed 5,000 Kurd men, women and babies with sarin, because he didn’t have any WMD’s.
Joe Wilson Lied!
Suffering fool liberals.

Robert   July 4th, 2008 - 5:59 pm

What a bunch of losers. Public school graduates no doubt.

Robert
Arlington, VA

ultra   July 4th, 2008 - 6:03 pm

Liberals have no respect for anybody else other themselves. Arrogant SOB’s. It still bothers me that when I cast my first vote, it was for Mondale over Reagan. I have grown up since. Liberals and Democrats are just pure HATE. Simple as that.

DMJ   July 4th, 2008 - 6:06 pm

The liberals are hilarious. They are always good for a laugh. Could you imagine if those hate filled personalities ever got in a position of power? The holocaust would seem like an ice cream social! They should always be laughed down and then ignored.

tomabrahams   July 4th, 2008 - 6:07 pm

what does independence mean to you?

leave a comment…

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/independence-da.html

Scott A   July 4th, 2008 - 6:08 pm

Happy Fourth of July to the patriots and real citizens of America. Our Country enjoys marvelous freedoms because “when the going gets tough, the tough get going”.
Sadly, among our citizens resides an element of simpleton criticism that feeds itself on the garbage thrown out by individuals that would be classified as 4F if the draft was still operative.
These 4Fers could never pass the “foxhole” test of the military and probably would mess themselves at the first sign of minimal violence.
These 4Fers are simple losers that lack original thought and their ancestors from the Vietnam protests were the biggest carriers of the “clap and craps” – A wonderful heritage to pass on to this generation of cry babies and pseudo intellectuals.
Now that I have expressed my First Amendment, I will close with: Happy Birthday American and may our great society live forever.

James Swartwout   July 4th, 2008 - 6:10 pm

To NoTenCommanmentsForMe, you crack me up dude. Listen to yourself;

“So considering YOUR source of speculation and judgement Versus the PAPER TRAIL out of our own government, I think I’ll take the LATTER as the truth.”

Now, when was the last time a lefty regarded ANYTHING that came out of this administration as the truth? Except when it conveniently validates their opinion of course. Sheesh, it’s like they think no one can see through that thin veneer.

Why do you suppose it is that anytime someone doesn’t hold the leftist opinion on a topic, then they automatically aren’t capable of thinking for themselves, and are merely repeating talking points from a talking head that’s telling them how to think?

How about this for food for thought liberals… Suppose for a moment that Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Boortz, et al, didn’t get where they are by telling people what to think. Instead they got where they are by listening to what a large segment of the same society you live in thinks, and became spokesmen for that group.

Whaaat..? A large segment of society other than liberals who are capable of free thought and formulating their own opinions…? Why, that could lead to us having to form our own syndicated left-wing radio shows and competing with them on an equal footing. What’s that you say? We tried that and simply don’t have a message that resonates with the public…? Well, I guess the only thing left to do is to dredge up the Fairness Doctrine from the dead so that we can legislate talk radio out of existence. That’ll show ‘em how progressive and liberal we are.

Sick n tired of lefty loons   July 4th, 2008 - 6:11 pm

Sick n tired you are a lunatic. Gestapo eh?

Dude, time to up the meds and seek out competent psychiatric care.

Tubby   July 4th, 2008 - 6:26 pm

Hey leftwing libtards, it’s funny, the more time and effort the USA puts into Iraq the less and less killing is going on. The more the USA assists the Iraqi people with forming a stable representaive government the greater chances for a long lasting peace in that country.
So whats the problem? Why all the desire to have the USA retreat and the Iaqi people thrown into the midst if a holocaust? Maybe the leftwing types really arnt interested in peace and stability in the Iraq, all they care about is the USA loosing face and getting shamed.
WMD was not the only reason for going to Iraq. Operation Iraqi freedom was about FREEDOM, you leftwing fools.

jack   July 4th, 2008 - 6:27 pm

To all you right wing fanatics, foaming at the mouth at the sight of American citizens venting their hate for this failed president, I say good riddance. I am a registered Republican tired of your extremism, your hatred for America and its values, your hate and fear of the Constitution and the people of this country who feel and look differently than you. I am the new GOP! Bush and his administration should be facing impeachment and war crimes courts and made to pay for lying to the people over and over…I even think, after the past 7 years of total failure that the one thing they have achieved is the failure of our once credible press to thoroughly investigate the events of 9/11…and its aftermath, and who really was involved and where over a trillion dollars went…..I have to admit, it has hurt in the past to vote for Democrat, but this year, it is a pleasure. The extremists who measure patriotism by a flag (made in
China) have cost us dearly and it past the time to shout and vote them down……

worddust   July 4th, 2008 - 6:28 pm

Who cares what these shrieking idiots have to say. Let them go to Cuba, Red China, Russia or ANY Islamic State and see what happens when they shoot off their mouths. They would be lucky to only be imprisoned in the countries they think are better than the US. GOD Bless America!!!!

Spotter6   July 4th, 2008 - 6:35 pm

Jeebus Slucks Clocks:
400,000 Iraqi Men women and Children?
Your number is severely exaggerated. Having been on the ground there, I can assure it is not that chaotic. I don’t deny lives have been lost. In this case, the means does justify the ends (Utilitarianism). It is a quandary. The flip side is… millions are living and WILL prosper over time. Proof from past events are South Korea, Japan, Philippines and Europe.

Your vote wasn’t even counted!
I join the military to ensure YOUR vote counts. If you didn’t vote, then…shame on you! But that’s your choice. I vote with my service. I talk-the-talk and do the walk. Iraq, Afghanistan, Philippines, Columbia/Ecuador, Russia and South Korea. Come do a little walk with me?

Professional Help. And thanks to the Democrat’s
Finally!!!!
If they had paid attention to the military under Clinton and Carter, we would not have the worldly issues we have today.
The democratic congress wants a young, inexperienced Obama. They will love him for the first part to get more socialist agenda into law, then let him flounder after he says no or causes a dispute.
Lastly, it’s just an incentive! Just like our forefathers, we join and fight to keep the constitution safe. It is still the same in every service members’ heart. We know the incentive will come and go over time. But, it is appreciated.

jack: You’re a phony!!!

frangie   July 4th, 2008 - 6:38 pm

I am a former dem because these idiotic losers took over my party.

the dem party is a shadow of what it once was, it is now a party of socialist, marxists, anti semitic, anti American facists

DaleW   July 4th, 2008 - 6:39 pm

jack, you are a liar, QED

jack   July 4th, 2008 - 6:41 pm

The last resort of your wing nuts that have brought so much shame to this country is name calling. You droolers on the fringe need to look at who you really are. Lying is something you seem to overlook in those you blindly support, like Bush, Cheney, Feith, etc…you are indeed lying to yourself if you think you represent what America is turning to…we have had it with you…the new GOP might take a pass on this election, but we will be heard from…we are sick of your divisivness, ignorant, and unamerican rantings…stick to hate radio and FOX…that is all you have….

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 6:45 pm

Code Pink and their ilk make me want to puke. On them. We Texans don’t tend to put up with rabble rouser college children spouting their leftist commie nonsense out of turn. Raise your little tattooed hand and the poly sci prof’s assistant will call on you. Then get a haircut and a job before me and Hank Hill kicks the dogcr#p outta you.

DaleW   July 4th, 2008 - 6:48 pm

Jack, a liar and now a bald-faced hypocrite. Keep going, imposterboy.

James Swartwout   July 4th, 2008 - 6:50 pm

To dsavid leanard

I read your comments with interest. Your first sentence seems to validate everything you wrote after that. “Whatever that means.” Judging by your words, it’s forgivable you didn’t understand what I was saying.

I’m all for democracy in action. However, it was the time and place that I found most disgusting. Talk about raining on someone’s parade… However, after reading your writings, I’m inclined to believe you couldn’t possibly comprehend the meaning of decorum. I equate this behavior right up there with your extremely “sensitive to others needs” comrades-in-arms that protest at soldiers funerals. You probably feel that’s perfectly acceptable as well.

socal4patrick   July 4th, 2008 - 6:59 pm

Where is “Don’t Taze Me Bro?” I miss him.

Rover   July 4th, 2008 - 7:00 pm

It’s an interesting constitutional question….

Can Bush pardon himself for his own war crimes…

And, can the next president revoke the pardons of a former president…

Hmmmm…

529

dsavid leanard   July 4th, 2008 - 7:04 pm

To James Swartwout:

The protesting of Soldiers funerals is done by the WestBorough Bapstists of Kansas and Fred Phellps – he of the “God Hates Fags” clan.

His group has protested at many venues I thought to be Innapropriate. They were there the day I married my partner in SF/CA 2004. Bullhorns Blaring, posters waving. Did I get upset? NO. Why? IT WAS THEIR RIGHT. It was Public Property (City Hall). Now a cemetary is not Public Property – at least NOT where the Soldier Funerals in this discussion were located.

But we are NOT talking about decorum, or INNAPPROPRIATE.

We are talking about the RIGHT TO DISSENT.

And that is Patriotic NO MATTER where/when or how it is expressed.

Don’t like it? Move to IRAN where they’ll cut your head off if you critisize their president or their Supreme Imam. How’s that for decorum?

Barker   July 4th, 2008 - 7:10 pm

@ dsavid leanard July 4th, 2008 – 7:04 pm:

No, most of us are talking about decorum.

The Right of Free Speech doesn’t contain a right to act like a lunatic and disturb or harass others. It just means a citizen has a right to criticise their government without fear of reprisal for doing so, from their government.

So, everyone’s got that right. They don’t have the right (nor any “right”) to impose their views with force or forcibly on other citizens. The President, I note, is also a citizen.

I think the question here IS decorum and the utter selfishness of those who engaged in this violent, obnoxious outburts. They denied the other citizens their “right” to peaceful assembly, they attempted to silence the “right to free speech” of the President (who is also a citizen), they otherwise acted despicably without decorum as to the considerations of the general public.

If they’re so upset about (what appears to be just about everything and anything), they can “criticise the government” in peaceful methods, like letter writings, public speeches held and conducted at their own expense, writing a book, etc.

No one has any “right” as a citizen (or as a visitor) to run amok in society under guise of speaking their mind. If that were the case, then, anyone could just about do anything and try later to call it “my right” — which, now that I think of it, is what the Left does every day.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 7:16 pm

Jack, you’re a little “OFF” on that rant.(Get it? Jack, off?) Blind faith is nominating a back bench, first term Senator, blank slate with no legislative record of any note, except his stellar record of voting “present” he put together in the Ill. Senate. Then he continues to fool enough of the people by winning the “urban” vote in Chicago, people that truly represent “Amurika” and SHA-ZAM! off to Washington. Maybe he’ll lead the fight to change the National Anthem to “Raise Our Voices,blah, blah, blah, as well as a surrender in the Middle East.

J.Abrams   July 4th, 2008 - 7:26 pm

It is shocking how hate-filled liberals have become. Their zealotry of non-liberals is on par with the views of radical Muslims toward non-Muslims. It is difficult to know which to fear more… those who wish to destroy America from the outside, or those wishing to destroy it from within!

James Swartwout   July 4th, 2008 - 7:32 pm

dsavid. Good Lord man. Is having the right to dissent supposed to divest you completely of moral character? Although I can see in your case it has. I also have the right to shout fire in a crowded theater, but that doesn’t make it right. (Although it would lead to my arrest, it wouldn’t be because my right to free speech is being violated.) No my friend, what those folks did was just plain wrong and mean. You can try to justify it all you want, but if at your heart you think it’s acceptable behavior, then your parents failed miserably at their job. There’s a wide gap between having a right, and knowing when and where to exercise it.

And will you please stop telling everyone who disagrees with you to move to freaking Iran? People can have differences of opinion without it making one an enemy of our country. Sheesh…

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 7:35 pm

Yo atheist Commandment dude, you’re a blathering moron. Get back to the group home before 6:30 bed check…and put your helmet back on. All major intelligence services in the world concurred that Saddam and his murdering, regionally distablizing a-holes cohorts had WMD’s. They used gas on the Kurds and Iranians. Period. That’s a WMD. That was in the 80’s and 90’s you choad choker. Hans Blix is also a moron clearly in the pocket of someone. Why don’t we check Syria? I bet they got a clue where to look. Get out a map, I’ll wait. No, not the one from your happy meal. OK, long border, Iraq/Syria, allies. 2+2=4, got it? Both Clintons, Kerry, and the rest of the Dem. b.s.ers were on board, all gung ho, ready to kick a## and take names, look it up. They ran like little girls when it became politically expediant. Now, stop eating boogers and paste and if you need to look any of the “big” words, feel free.

SFC Jimmy   July 4th, 2008 - 7:44 pm

Ya know, some people in this country just have to show their butts in order to feel like they have done something. I’m sure the fat chick that got drug away by security thinks she has “served her country in the name of freedom” just as much as any soldier. That is because she is “stupid” and very much a proud product of the liberal, public school system. God have mercy on us all.

dsavid leanard   July 4th, 2008 - 7:44 pm

To James Swartwout – 7:32 pm

“…Is having the right to dissent supposed to divest you completely of moral character?”

Moral Character has NOTHING to do with the Right to Dissent. Otherwise MORALITY would appear in the Constitution. It Does not. So hop off your Moral Shetland pony.

“..I also have the right to shout fire in a crowded theater, but that doesn’t make it right…”

You DO NOT have a right to shout FIRE in a crowded theater. As you have stated right after, you would be arrested. So make up your mind on that one.

“..No my friend, what those folks did was just plain wrong and mean…”

First, I am not your friend. Just ‘plain wrong and mean’ is a child’s rebuttal. Are you a child?

You do have a Moral Shetland Pony…so maybe…

People who try to smile away other American’s Right to Dissent are not my friend.

“…at your heart you think it’s acceptable behavior, then your parents failed miserably at their job…”

Did your parents teach you to drink tea with your pinky up?

Mine taught me to dump that tea into the harbour when the KING is a DANGER and a THREAT.

“…There’s a wide gap between having a right, and knowing when and where to exercise it…”

No, there isn’t. There is only a RIGHT and the Exercize Thereof.

“…And will you please stop telling everyone who disagrees with you to move to freaking Iran?”

Anyone who supports the incarceration of a Citizen for expressing his disagreement with the PRESIDENT, who is nothing more than a commoner amongst the commons of america and NOT above the constitution, should live in Iran.

“…People can have differences of opinion without it making one an enemy of our country. Sheesh…”

You’re sounding like a liberal. Maybe we are friends.

Tom Banter   July 4th, 2008 - 7:52 pm

So much for Free Speech, as security drags off those so inclined.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 7:57 pm

Hey,Dsavid Leanard, you also ought to keep your Rumpranger booty away from Iran. I belive they will cut your puffin’ head off. You might get something else cut off first. By the way, wedding? Nah…afraid not…when you two lovebirds can be locked in a room and you two figure out how to naturally reproduce (not adopt) then you’re legit. Until then, no weddings. Even freak show California will redefeat that sham ruling by a 61/39 majority again. Live like you like, just don’t try to redefine the institution of marriage. We the people don’t like it and will vote that way. Sorry no boy on boy weddings.

Elsie Reynolds   July 4th, 2008 - 7:59 pm

http://bannedindc.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/bush-goes-to-monticello/

Sums it up.

BlueMax372   July 4th, 2008 - 8:03 pm

:::YAWN:::

hsmomma   July 4th, 2008 - 8:04 pm

To Barker:
That was a beautiful explaination of our rights. My rights end where they intrude on someone else’s rights. A citizen of this country has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those rights end when they infringe on someone else’s. For instance, if it makes a man happy to rape and murder a woman, his rights end. She can and should end his right to life (ie defend herself with force).

Mike   July 4th, 2008 - 8:06 pm

The president is an elected official. He is NOT a GOD or the GOD. Last time any one knew, he was but a man(human). Put your trust and faith in him, and see what happens to you in the future. People have fought and died so people can speak their mind in this country. In the camps, their will be no speech. Enjoy your words today, for tomorrow, you will lose them.

Rover   July 4th, 2008 - 8:06 pm

I think I might know the first proptester who charged the stage. She is a member of Code Pink a very respected group in my neck of the woods. I hope she wasn’t taken to the room to be beaten up by the security thugs.

I even have a flavor named “Code Pink” at my Ice Cream Parlor, the ice cream is pink and tastes like cotton candy. It’s one of my favorite flavors.

Obama 08
Reach out and hug someone
You just might make a lifelong friend

Flyoverman   July 4th, 2008 - 8:07 pm

Tom Banter July 4th, 2008 – 7:52 pm “So much for Free Speech, as security drags off those so inclined.”

I believe what we were observing was the President’s right of free speech being infringed. Oh I forgot, free speech is only applicable to The Left.

“All animals are equal, some are more equal than others.?”

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   July 4th, 2008 - 8:12 pm

Yo Jamesb – 7:35 pm

“…All major intelligence services in the world concurred that Saddam and his murdering, regionally distablizing a-holes cohorts had WMD’s…”

The ones that James Baker and George Herbert Walker Bush sold him to fight Iran? Yeah. He HAD THOSE in the 1980’s

“…They used gas on the Kurds and Iranian…in the 80’s and 90’s you choad choker…”

You knew that! Good Boy. Now you’re coming around…

After Iraq War 1, Inspectors fanned out across the country and searched and monitored.

Then in 2003, Hans Blix files his finished report to the UN that since 1993 ‘NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION or PROGRAMS rebuilt’

How do you handle this truth?

“…Hans Blix is also a moron clearly in the pocket of someone…”

The chief inspector comes forward, says that it’s all gone and our CIA says so too…and YOU SAY he’s in SOMEONE’S POCKET? What’s that? A Conspiracy Theory of yours. Whose? Let’s all ask JamesB: Who benefitted by NOT GOING TO WAR? – ROTFLMAO

Your Hans Blix Swipes are nothing more than verbal koolaid served up to your tiny brain from Rush Bimbo or Barbie O’Leiley.

NO ONE, ANYWHERE, REPORTS HANS BLIX OR ANY OTHER THE INSPECTOR’S WORK AS FALSE.

Unlike Bush 2’s intelligence report to the nation on Iraq’s danger. Man, how many of those Cartoon Chemical Mobile Labs did we find?

NONE.

In other words – YOU ARE WRONG. Again.

“…Why don’t we check Syria? I bet they got a clue where to look…”

Of Course they do. They also have the Nuclear bomb. What they don’t have is a weak president who’ll sell of right-of-way for the western oil agencies. And that Nuke pretty much assures that the syrians will keep their sovereignty. Or do you suppose your Chimp-in-Charge will attack a country with nuclear Weapons?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Syria had NOTHING to do with 9/11
Iran had NOTHING to do with 9/11

19 disturbed SAUDI ARABIANS with some box cutters had EVERYTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

But we’re not INVADING Saudi Arabia.

HEY BIG BOY: DO US ALL A FAVOR:

PLEASE: POST THE LINK or NEWSPAPER REPORT, or GOVERNMENT REPORT declaring the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE FOUND.

Maybe I’ll chew some more Choad while I wait for you to get back to us all with your links. Maybe not.

(cue Jeopardy music)

S. De.   July 4th, 2008 - 8:13 pm

Flyoverman:

“All animals are equal, some are more equal than others.?”

Interesting you, as a ‘conservative supporting the president (?)’ would quote from Orwell’s Animal Farm..which was a tale warning of Fascism not unlike what your Commander in Chief has created here in the US.

He also wrote ‘1984′.

And he was a Liberal.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 8:14 pm

Swartwout, you cannot yell (or say) fire in a crowded theater. Look it up, that is not Constitutionally protected speech. As for that group of yahoo’s from Kansas protesting funerals and Leanerd and his “buddy”, they are dispicable. Thank God and thank you to Rolling Thunder for their sheltering the families of truly heroic Americans in their time of profound loss. Even ol’ Leaneard is entitled to his own space without that group’s noise pollution.

James Swartwout   July 4th, 2008 - 8:22 pm

dsavid. Oh my. I look back over the above and I wonder how you could have so grossly misinterpreted my words. I thought I was being fairly clear. Okay, bear with me, I’ll start speaking a little slower.

Yep, you’re right. We have no right to be moral, words to that effect are not in the Constitution. It’s up to each and every one of us to figure out for ourselves. I’m sorry that you never received those lessons, perhaps you and your partner can take a remedial class or something.

You have convinced me that any words alluding to the term “moral character” are simply ricocheting off the side of your skull. So I will drop that line of reasoning. However I would like to add that moral character goes hand-in-hand with your right to dissent, but I know you’d disagree.

And yes, I have a right to shout fire in a crowded theater. What I don’t have a right to do is cause panic or undue duress on those around me. But I would not be tried on Constitutional grounds, thus protecting my right to make stupid attempts at pushing my right to free speech to the limit. (There’s that “just because I can doesn’t mean I should” thing you seem to have trouble with.)

I agree with you wholeheartedly that you are not a friend of mine, it’s merely a figure of speech I grant people I respect. You, however, can rest assured I won’t be using that term with you in the future.

So, when you grow up, are you supposed to lose sight of the definition of the terms wrong, or mean? Or are those simply meaningless childish values? Whoops, never mind, you already answered that one.

And you seem to feel there’s no gap between having a right and knowing when and where to use it? How pray tell, did you manage to survive into adulthood, if indeed you have?

And nowhere did I suggest those folks get arrested for their actions. Escorted out of the arena certainly, but whose words were you reading? Or is it simply a lack of comprehension? Try to read someone’s comments a little slower before you start angrily banging on your keyboard, it may help you with the comprehension thing.

Scott 44   July 4th, 2008 - 8:22 pm

I personally know a squad of Marines (True Men willing to put in on the line for Freedom) that would enjoy the opportunity to have you yellow commie retards protest at the funeral of a member of their Brotherhood.
Again, the simpletons of America only are capable of running their mouths, the heroes of America face adversity everyday, they protect your sleazy butts, put out fires, rescue other citizens and fight to keep your lazy rumps warm and cozy.
Please continue with your diatribes against Bush, Republicans and anything else that you haven’t the courage to confront in person.
My friends and I truly enjoy your craziness and place bets on who can provide the most absurd comments within a 24 hour period.

LeoEfstathiou   July 4th, 2008 - 8:22 pm

Thanks God for American voters being able to tell of a phony when they see one, i.e. Algore and Jonceri.
They will save us from Osama the same way.

Ron R.   July 4th, 2008 - 8:23 pm

George Bush had no right being at Thomas Jefferson’s home. George Bush is against everything Thomas Jefferson stood for. Educate yourself if you don’t believe me.

“I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.”
“If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.”
“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.”
“War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.”
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
– Benjamin Franklin

Obama is a Marxist   July 4th, 2008 - 8:23 pm

@ S. De.

Fascism in the USA?

You clearly don’t understand what Fascism is and you ignorance is compounded by your public display of puny political science knowledge.

Let me guess, your a Democrat? Most Democrats have never studied history, they rely on emotion instead. Educated people never make the mistake of comparing the USA from 2001-2008 to anything resembling the concept of Fascism.

When your rights are revoked by a military dictatorship, you come give us a call.

Unpatriotic trash.

dsavid leanard   July 4th, 2008 - 8:25 pm

Hey Homophobe Jamesb – 7:57 pm:

What part of 22 years of service to my country didn’t you get? Huh? You think you can make fun of me after giving my life to this country during real wars? I fought for your right to shoot your mouth off too. And I fought for the day when I would be free to Marry whomever I So Choose.

And you know what? My Marriage to my Partner is Legal where I live. That’s right.

Didn’t have to read no book about baby-making, nitwit.

“…you also ought to keep your Rumpranger booty away from Iran…”

Oh like you’re telling me something I don’t know? why the hell would I ever want to go to Iran. It’s a theocracy. You know what that means? No?

Look it up. Death before Theocracy.

“…Even freak show California will redefeat that sham ruling by a 61/39 majority again…”

Uh, Wrong. First, the Polls show the clear majority of Californians are voting to KEEP GAY MARRIAGE legal here.

Secondly, the Supreme Court has already said in its ruling that the MOB-VOTING to DENY basic constitutional rights to classes of people, such as Gays and Lesbians is unacceptible and they WILL knock out any attepmts at the ballot box.

Thirdly…there is no such word as REDEAFT.

Happily and LEGALLY Gay-Married ex-soldier in California saying to you….

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mikey   July 4th, 2008 - 8:27 pm

Hey all you brain-dead libs….Guess What, I’m conservative and I’m voting for Obama. I cant wait to see his inexperienced flip flopping start and his embarrasing wife’s rascist rants finally out in the open.

It will be so apparent, only the most rabid leftists will be able to ignore.

Then we can see how much the loser left gets accomplished. About as much as the Pelosi congress im sure.

This is going to get interesting.

Those of you with a brain still left, make sure you have plenty of ammo, the crime rate is going to skyrocket when Obama is elected and the economy really tanks after Obama and Pelosi “fix it”.

Hey…Jimmy Carter wont be the worst president in history after all.

DataPimp   July 4th, 2008 - 8:27 pm

Read the hate and anger in their comments. It’s obvious that to conservatives, patriotism is love of country. To liberal/leftists, patriotism is shame of country.

Don’t be mad, just feel sorry for them. For what must it be like to awake every morning and look in the mirror when you hate everything about your life and the country in which you live?

Lutzito   July 4th, 2008 - 8:31 pm

To Lou Dobbs Fan:

what are you smoking, how much is it and where
can I get some ??

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   July 4th, 2008 - 8:39 pm

To James Swartwout: Listen to yourself, dude;

“…Now, when was the last time a lefty regarded ANYTHING that came out of this administration as the truth?’

So what are you saying? I should ignore the governments own reports about it, and listen to the other guys’ speculation. Dude, get tinfoil hat quick.

Let me turn the next one around as my reply:

“…Why do you suppose it is that anytime someone doesn’t hold the RIGHTIST opinion on a topic, then they automatically aren’t capable of thinking for themselves, and are merely repeating talking points from a talking head that’s telling them how to think?”

Easy, Huh? How about that one! Scroll up. tell me it’s not true. Blah blah blah. Bore.

“…How about this for food for thought liberals… Suppose for a moment that Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Boortz, et al, didn’t get where they are by telling people what to think. Instead they got where they are by listening to what a large segment of the same society you live in thinks, and became spokesmen for that group…”

Yeah? And WHERE IN HECKS’ SAKE did they listen? At the National Republican Listening Poll For Disgruntled Republican Followers? Is there a Website? Did they hold a focus group?

Dude: They get daily Memos from the RNC. They call them ‘talking points’. It’s a real piece of paper. And they use it to steer public discourse their way. Not the other way around. Grow up.

“…Well, I guess the only thing left to do is to dredge up the Fairness Doctrine from the dead so that we can legislate talk radio out of existence. That’ll show ‘em how progressive and liberal we are….”

Oh chrissmas, Man. You really don’t understand the Fairness Doctrine. It’s about Anti-Trust. Disbanding empires and monopolies to Prevent one man or one company from owning it all.

This country lived with the Anti-Trust act in the Media for almost 200 years. And it worked.

It doesn’t mean your precious Right-Wing Hate Radio will be off the air, it means there will be more than one owner. More than one choice. More than one opinion. Okay? Get it?

That’s GOOD for business.

So get off that one now.

S. De.   July 4th, 2008 - 8:42 pm

Fascism is NOT a military dictatorship. That would be considered nazism or Totalitarism or simply a Military Dictatorship.

Here is the definition of fascism:

“…Fascism is a political system which commonly promotes statist nationalism, and government-directed economic practises such as corporativism and national syndicalism…”

You think you live somewhere else?

DaleW   July 4th, 2008 - 8:45 pm

Ron R says: George Bush had no right being at Thomas Jefferson’s home.

I nominate you for the most vacuous use of the word `right’ in this entire thread. Fill up that sippy cup again and toast yourself!

JunePost   July 4th, 2008 - 8:47 pm

I am a Liberal. And I love my country too. I want to wish you all a wonderful 4th of July. May we all meet again next year under happier circumstances.

darcyAngellica   July 4th, 2008 - 8:47 pm

From mikey:

“…Hey all you brain-dead libs….Guess What, I’m conservative and I’m voting for Obama. I cant wait to see…”

Thank you for your vote, mikey. I can’t wait for your eyes to be finally opened and your lips mouthing the words “I can’t Believe this man has character and courage. I can’t believe I put up with Bush for 8 years. I can’t believe I listened to all those republican Liars!”

Scott 44   July 4th, 2008 - 8:49 pm

Ron R.

You missed this Jefferson Quote. It is obvious that you only look at items that could – underline could – support your point of view. Typical left sided numb skull baloney. Buy books and read!

Jefferson: “For a people who are free and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security. It is, therefore, incumbent on us at every meeting [of Congress] to revise the condition of the militia and to ask ourselves if it is prepared to repel a powerful enemy at every point of our territories exposed to invasion… Congress alone have power to produce a uniform state of preparation in this great organ of defense. The interests which they so deeply feel in their own and their country’s security will present this as among the most important objects of their deliberation.” We still ask many of the same questions of our leaders. We have had a history of turmoil in government since the very beginning of our nation. We argue and choose sides in every debate. We have partisans and citizens who remain out of the fight.

In my words, you threaten or attack America, you will be repaid in painful spades.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 8:50 pm

Ron, come on. Jefferson and the original patriots that founded our country brilliantly arranged it in such a way that it could grow and defend itself. In fact the first attempt at a Constitution(Federalist Papers) was dumped and the process redone after it was discovered that there was no provision for federal taxation and little Rhode Island and others started squawking if memory serves me correctly. The Constitutional Convention was technically kinda illegal, you seem bright, you know that. At the heart of the matter was for the Union to survive, right? Survive it has, we are at year 232. It may be our own freedoms and rights that ultimately bring us down. Jefferson obviously couldn’t have imagined Islamic terrorists calling contacts in the U.S. on cell phones from outside the country to coordinate an attack on our country. He was smart but not that smart. WE the PEOPLE, TODAY, have to protect our freedoms and espionage and covert actions are a big part of that. Blame the F-ING Muslim psychos, not the CIA. By the way that chameleon Barry Hussein de la O now SUPPORTS FISA so no retro actively spanking the telecom giants for helping the Gov. with vital security. Yea..He is such a right winger!

Duffy   July 4th, 2008 - 8:51 pm

The video won’t work for me, it keeps stopping. Bush really needs to go out in public more and not be afraid of protestors and hecklers. If he confronted people who are against him, I’m willing to bet we’d respect him a lot more. If you look on Youtube there’s only a couple times anyone has ever been allowed to dissent from Bush in public: one was Colbert at the white house dinner, and the other was at one of the 2004 town hall things he did. He handled both situations really well I thought, but this should be something he does every week. If he really wants to act like someone who “truly believes” in what he’s doing and all that, then why does he hide from the public and only allow pre-screened questions and guests at his speeches?

DataPimp   July 4th, 2008 - 8:52 pm

Actually, Webster would probably be a more reliable definition than Wikipedia…

“A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”

Sounds like the left to me. Especially those parts about “centralized autocratic government and forcible suppression of opposition”.

Duffy   July 4th, 2008 - 8:53 pm

Jamesb, the first government in the U.S. was the Articles of Confederation, not the Federalist Papers. The Federalist Papers were party manifestos for the Federalists (Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, etc.)

Sam   July 4th, 2008 - 9:00 pm

Reading the absolutely insane rantings of the delusional leftists here I have to say that I think there is going to have to be a second American Civil War to clean them out.

They are every bit as much an enemy of the United States as al qaida and Iran. They should be dealt with in the same way. Our men and women in service swear to fight all enemies foreign, AND DOMESTIC. It’s time to take that seriously.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 9:00 pm

Scott44, you da man! You supported my argument with the words of Jefferson himself. These dogmatic libs are bumping into the walls of a rationalization room that doesn’t have a door. It takes logic that slithers along in serpentine curves to follow some of the blather I see here…oh and Bush stole two elections, right?

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 9:02 pm

Thanks Duffy, got my papers twisted, so to speak. I stand corrected and thank you very much. Sometimes the ideas fly faster than my non-typing fingers! Thank You!

Airwick   July 4th, 2008 - 9:16 pm

It’s amazing how the postings from people on the far right keep referring to the Second World War to get “examples” of how “we have to remember history to keep from repeating it” while being ignorant of that history. Spotter6 is a classic example. Some of the information he supplies is accurate—the French did fight a costly four year war with the Germans in World War I and did collapse in six weeks after the German assault in 1940. However, the rest of his statement regarding the cause of that collapse is utter nonsense. The French did not lose because they did not have the “will” to fight due to “Liberals”. They lost because they did not understand the concept of mobile warfare and the Germans did. French armor was more numerous and often of better quality than the German counterpart. Unfortunately, the French were guilty of that fatal flaw that is so common with losing armies—they fought the current conflict with the last conflict’s tactics. The First World War was fought behind trenches and fixed fortifications. The French felt that they could reproduce their successes of that war by building the Maginot Line. Their armor was not concentrated into armored units but served as auxiliary forces attached to the infantry. The result was disaster. Though the Germans had less armor, they concentrated it into mobile units that could bring a large number of tanks into a small area, gain tactical superiority, overwhelm the defensive positions, and strike deep behind enemy lines, disrupting communications and spreading chaos. Whenever their armor met an organized strong point (like a fortification or city), they would not attempt to take the position but would simply go around it and allow the following infantry units to take it instead. The result is a tactic we know as “blitzkrieg”. The Germans also attacked in a heavily wooded area (the Ardennes) that was considered to be unsuitable for armor and gained a critical element of surprise from which the French never recovered. Once the river Meuse was crossed the French position was untenable and defeat assured.

I might add that the British troops were also unable to withstand the German onslaught. So unless it is your claim that they too were victims of “liberals” who did not want to “take risks”, you have to concede that something else was in play. That was, of course, superior German strategy and tactics.

As an ironic aside, the general who initiated and planned the 1940 assault was Gen. Erich von Manstein who was a student of a brilliant English military historian, Liddell Hart. Hart noted the importance of armor in future wars after his experiences in World War I. German officers like von Manstein, Rommel, and Guderian took note and adopted many of his suggestions. The French and British armed forces ignored him and were soundly defeated as a result.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 9:28 pm

Sam you might be on to something, but… Islamic terrorists fight like chicken sh#t punks, I would not expect liberals to be any different. I.E.D.s are the tools of dispicable, cowardly dogs. I know for certain no U.S. airliner will ever be commandeered without a fight to the death by heroic Americans on board as in the case of the 9/11 flight that went down in Penn. (the libs on board might sit it out) American liberals are rudderless cafeteria Americans (they waddle down the line and pick and choose the facets of Americanism the agree with). They cheat at the polls if anyway possible (see Florida for an ex.,I have other examples) They think income redistribution is a great thing, libs have to have renegade activist judges to create law out of whole cloth to get laws the way they want them in direct contridiction of most of the voters of the U.S.(see Calif. gay marriage)It goes on and on….

boB   July 4th, 2008 - 9:45 pm

For all of those who think Bush lied about WMD’s, just answer me a few questions. Why did the Senate Intelligence Cmte, who had access to the EXACT same intelligence as Bush, approve the use of force? Why did 18 other nations agree that he was on the verge of using WMD’s and needed to be stopped? Why did the UN pass sanctions calling for Hussein to stop the WMD’s if he didn’t have any? Why did Hussein tell his interrogators that he WANTED people to believe he had them so that he would retain power? Why did the Israeli intelligence track 17 tractor-trailer trucks moving into Syria the day of the attacks and those trucks cannot be found (the license plate was Iraqi)?

Answer these questions and we can talk. Until then, start looking at the big picture. If Bush is successful in implementing a semi-Democracy in Iraq, he will have effectively put a buffer between Iran and Syria making their coordinated support of terrorism much more difficult. AND it makes the gulf more secure.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 9:56 pm

Airwick, interesting post. I do belive that the French were outgunned and totally out flanked by the Wermacht in the May offensive that took the French out of the war in just six weeks as you and others correctly stated. German Panzers were superior to their French conterparts (larger guns, further range) and no doubt their tacticts were totally superior and revolutionary. Remember Rommel was the commander of the “Ghost Division” so named by running hard just as you correctly described and bypassing heavily fortified positions. I think the real reason the French folded like a cloth napkin was that they had lost an entire generation of young men just 20 years before(1 million dead). They just didn’t have the stomach for that amount of carnage again. The French Resistance operated very bravely though. Liberalism or conservatism had little to do with their defeat in my opinion. Good info though. The Soviets wound up out manuvering the Germans and had a superior tank to the Germans, the T34 by ‘42 or so. The greatest tank battles ever were fought on the Eastern Front and if you think about it Communists are liberals taken out the farthest extreme, right? Oh, the Germans bypassed the Ardennes and took the easy route through Belguim but in late ‘44 busted through the woods of the Ardennes trying a last gasp offensive that became the Battle of the Bulge. I had an uncle there, with the 101st Airborne. He was wounded twice but lived to be 75 years old. I have his original combat jump wings, I’m very proud of him and all he served and sacrificed with, be they libs or cons.

Airwick   July 4th, 2008 - 9:58 pm

Jamesb
Our armed forces have armored Humvees, Bradley armored vehicle, Abrams tanks, Predator drones, Blackhawk helicopters, cruise missiles, fighter bomber close air support, artillery support, body armor, night vision goggles, weapons that can shoot thousands of rounds in the blink of an eye, and computerized everything. They have AK47’s and RPG’s (vintage Viet Nam War). Oh, and they have IED’s. They fight with the weapons they have. If you were them how would YOU fight?

I agree with you that “no U.S. airliner will ever be commandeered without a fight to the death”. I have a feeling that “Libs” will do their share of the fighting, too and that includes the little old lady with the big purse. So here is my question. WHY ARE WE STILL GOING THROUGH THESE RIDICULOUS CHECK POINTS IN THE AIRPORTS? These security people have inspected millions of people and have yet to locate and stop ONE terrorist attack. You have a much higher probability of dying driving to the airport than you do of dying in a “terrorist” attack on that airplane. Maybe it’s time sanity replaces hysteria in our daily lives.

l   July 4th, 2008 - 10:05 pm

Airwick, good points.

Airwick   July 4th, 2008 - 10:07 pm

JamesB,
Your uncle sounds like quite a guy. Hang on to those wings—your kids will want them. My father was a Marine who served in the Pacific. He enlisted in the summer of 1941 just a few months before Pearl Harbor (he always had a great sense of timing). I have a “love letter” he wrote to my mother (she kept them all) that is dated, Dec. 7, 1941. All he talked about was how much he missed her and how he hoped that he could get leave to visit her over Christmas. After he mailed it he heard the news about the attack. It’s ironic how things turn out sometimes.

B.J.   July 4th, 2008 - 10:08 pm

We have a president that called our sacred founding document “just a G.Damned piece of paper”! And you wonder why he has protestors?

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 10:10 pm

bob you got it right on, totally correct. LoveyDoveyHawks like Bubba Clinton, Kerry, Rockefeller, etc.,etc., went in front of tv cameras all over the place to tout exercising the military option. Saddam must be stopped, regime change neccessary, blah,blah,blah. G.W. Bush was the Gov. of Texas at the time so I don’t think he was advocating Texas attacking Iraq. (We coulda kicked their mutt a$$e$ though). Plenty of video tape is hanging around out there, someone ought to dig it out and remind them of it. I personally believe those weapons are in Syria, in dry storage. Syria is getting a pass, except by the Israelis and the I.A.F.

ICEPICK223   July 4th, 2008 - 10:11 pm

THE ONLY WAY BUSH CAN REDEEM HIMSELF IS TO PUT A BULLET THROUGH HIS BRAIN. I HOPE I LIVE TO SEE IT.

lou dobbs fan   July 4th, 2008 - 10:12 pm

i’m a babbling idiot. Bub-b-b-b-bub–d-d-d-d-bd

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 10:17 pm

Thank you Airwick, I will. I think all those men had balls like basketballs. The Pacific Marines had a hell of a slog, what tough dudes. My hat’s off to your Dad and my thanks to him also. My Dad is a Vietnam era U.S.A.F. pilot (ret.of course) he always feels a little slighted but he had a job and went and did it. All VETERNS deserve our eternal thanks! Take care Airwick!

Blaze Hauser   July 4th, 2008 - 10:20 pm

All of you conservative chumps need to cram it. I hope to live to see Bush face judgment at the hands of the indignant, although rather ignorant proletariat! And as for those who call us “liberals” “loonies” and “nuts” take a look at these idiots in the churches carrying on, stealing your money to pamper themselves. Who`s a loony now?
I for one, call for CLASS WAR! And since according to the statistics, the richest 10% control 80% of all assets in this country, there`s many more of us than YOU! Take a lesson from the french revolution, and remember that safety is an illusion. God nor George “dubya” can save you from your fate. Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave while this idiot blathers on incessantly. I`m from Texas, we know how stupid he is, he messed up this state as only as a bush can. PLUS HE`S A YANKEE BORN IN CONNECTICUT!!

Lidovico IL Moro   July 4th, 2008 - 10:36 pm

God has blessed America and will continue. America has enjoyed 8 years of judicious, profound and brillant leadership in a global war against a cruel, cowardly Islamic enemy where we have liberated 65 million people from oppression and cruel barbarism to self determination and freedom at little cost in lives and treasure while supporting a growing thriving economy.

In 2006, in a fit of stupid and childish pique an ill informed and largely stupid electorate without any historic perspective elected a democratic house and senate and handed the Republic over to the most flea bitten collection of retro-grade leftist trash in our history which has subverted our economy, energy policies and war effort for their partisan gain and now they place the most reprehensible and vile racist leftist dreg up for their Presidential Candidate and he is said to be a beacon of hope.

Nope sorry Bush in 2008 is Lincoln in 1863 and his legacy will be substantial and all of the Copperheads who loathe him forgotten.

ryukyu   July 4th, 2008 - 10:36 pm

Jeez, Obama can’t even clean up his own state and you retards want him to run the entire country? Good thing there are plenty of Republicans that work for him to tax.

Airwick   July 4th, 2008 - 10:37 pm

JamesB,
I agree that Pres. Bush was in a tight spot. After 9-11 he must have had a real “OH, CRAP!” moment when he realized that as bad as it was, it could have been a lot worse. By all reports, there was a lot of information flying around—some good, some bad, some questionable, and a lot of it contradictory. The mood in the intelligence community no doubt shifted from getting “actionable information” to finding information that confirms a worst case scenario. I blame him less for going into Iraq then for not holding his people responsible for the ensuing fiasco. According to Bob Woodward, when George Tennet laid out the case for WMD’s in the Oval Office prior to the invasion, the President had the wherewithal to question him critically only to receive the famous, “don’t worry, it’s a slam dunk” response. Mr. Bush should have fired Tennet for failing to produce that “slam dunk”. Instead he gave him a medal. Rummy should have been tossed unceremoniously long before he was allowed to “resign” for gross incompetence (and arrogance). There are a lot of other “advisors” who failed the president who should have gone as well, including Paul Bremmer.

I doubt that Sadam had any WMD’s of consequence when we invaded. The sarin rounds we found later are better classified as “hazardous waste” than as deployable weapons. But, being fair to all parties, Sadam was playing a dangerous game. On the one hand he risked sanctions and military action by possessing WMD’s, on the other he felt that if his enemies (including Iran) believed that he had them, he could bluff them and stay in power. He therefore allowed the world (and his enemies) to believe that he was more dangerous than he was. Ironically what he thought would protect him resulted in his downfall.

Anonymous   July 4th, 2008 - 10:42 pm

Stupid liberals.

God Bless George Bush!

david   July 4th, 2008 - 10:43 pm

There is something wrong with free speech when your enemies, liberals, Bush haters, and others can say anything they want, stupid, ignorant, dirty, make untrue claims about the president and make the news. If they don’t like it there are plenty of other countries they can move to. But don’t look for free speech and all the protections you get in America.

JLS   July 4th, 2008 - 10:45 pm

Every one of you “pro-bush” people need a serious psychoanalysis. To love and support your country is commendable. To ignorantly support an administration that is responsible for destroying it is stupidity. How many times does Bush have to kick you in the balls for you to realize that he does not have your best interest in mind.

Bobo   July 4th, 2008 - 10:47 pm

You losers whining about Fascism are drooling retards who don’t know what Fascism is. Get back in your holes. You’re useless.

Tom Kuhn   July 4th, 2008 - 10:47 pm

How about the rights of the people to have a dignified naturalization ceremony? Many of those people have dreamed for years about becoming US Citizens only to have it marred by some loud mouth protesters

Lidovico IL Moro   July 4th, 2008 - 10:51 pm

I changed my mind. I admit that I did NOT take my Prozac today and now I am suffering for it.

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Whew!
Must take Prozac

Tom Kuhn   July 4th, 2008 - 10:52 pm

Must take Prozac too. Thanks for the heads-up, Lidovico, or whatever the heck your name is. Change it to Prozac so you can remind me.

Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac Must take Prozac

Gulp. Prozac taken. Bush is a nutcase.
Easy.

Fabian   July 4th, 2008 - 11:17 pm

These “protesters” believe in diversity and tolerance, just as long as we all think exactly like they do.

Fabian   July 4th, 2008 - 11:17 pm

Oops, must take Prozac.

Albino Alligator   July 4th, 2008 - 11:32 pm

Everybody protest Global Warming !
Stop breathing.

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 11:39 pm

Airwick, ya points well taken. I’m very sure he (Bush) would love to have a “do over” on the run up and the two years after cessation of military action (army on army,”Mission Accomplished”) not our Army v. Insurgency. But I’m sure many Commanders in Chief and statesmen the world over and through the ages wish they had taken a different turn here or there. Without a doubt the surge has been a resounding success and a premature withdrawal could be catastrophic. 4000 plus casualties and thousands of wounded later the cost has been high, I salute each and every one of them. I try not to compare different situations but sometimes I think about British loses at the Somme,40,000 DEAD plus in ONE DAY? Iwo Jima, 6000+ fine Marines in 1 week? But it’s done, it’s history now and I think we have learned from the past. We must now look ahead and decide if, in my opinion, stabilizing that CRITICAL region of the world was worth it. We can see now what even the threat of trouble in that region does to oil prices. Trouble in the Mideast has impacted our gas prices in the past (70’s). I fully admit (unlike some conservatives) that oil is at the heart of why we are there and why we deposed Saddam. He was good for starting an all out war about once per decade and that was not acceptable to world economic stability. He was an equal opprotunity offender attacking Israel and Saudi Arabia at the same time! He was also a mass murderer so getting rid of him served a few good purposes. Al Queda is a pig of a different color. We are in for a long hard fight that will last beyond my lifetime (i’m 48). We can’t choose not to fight, they are amongst us and will claim more innocent American lives. Obviously they have no permanent address or forwarding address where we can go stomp their guts out and end this thing. It’s very hard to declare war on a non-country in my opinion. Good intel is going to be the key and you are correct, that has not been the case and wasn’t the case as it turned out in 2002 and 2003. Civil libertarians are gonna scream like stuck pigs but look at Obama, even he reversed himself and supports the new FISA bill.

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JT   July 4th, 2008 - 11:40 pm

Leftists are such noisy, profane people. They are in for a big surprise this November when their stealth-Marxist candidate for President goes down in a Mondale / Carter style defeat.

Thanks and have a great day.

FireDawg   July 4th, 2008 - 11:46 pm

To Blaze Hauser :

And those same statistics you quote show that the top 10% of wage earners pay 65% of all federal income tax. The top 50% pay 96% of all federal income tax.

Yeah, so let’s have a class war and after all the people who actually work and pay nearly all the taxes in this country are gone, you’ll be standing there with your pud in your hand saying “What happened??” when there’s nobody left to pay for the cradle-to-grave government handouts that your party is always pushing.

Mac-101   July 4th, 2008 - 11:49 pm

Jamesb, I wish to disagree with you on how much better the Soviet forces performed over the Germans. They greatly outnumbered the NAZI’s but still lost 10 men to 1 against the Germans while the Germans performed the most effective retograde action in history, suffering historic loses while being led by a mad man, Adolph Hitler! The Germans even inflicted slightly more casualties against us on the Western front even though we owned the skies and had massive indirect fire support. The Nazis retreated less distance and benefited from fortified fire positions, so the odds were in the German’s favor in the West.

Also, the Iranians are not head choppers like our friends the Saudis. For some reason unknown to me they like to hang people with an industrial crane, lifting them a few feet above the ground in front of their families and then they whip their family members when they try to hold up their loved ones while they slowly strangle to death. A popular sport is to bet on how long the condeemed kick untill they die. Now out in the country they still enjoy a good stoning for those women and little girls who are unfortunate enough to be raped (adulteres) as acording to Sharia law. Why the hanging I don’t know. Nothing in the Nobel Quran states that Adulters showed be hanged. It’s quite explicite that the women should be buried up to her elbows and hit with stones no larger than your fist but greater than your thumb!

Jamesb   July 4th, 2008 - 11:58 pm

Air, by the way, I agree the insurgency in Iraq and Afganistan are mostly ragtag groups. They have a hodge podge of weapons and ya we greatly out weapon them. My problem with them is that Iran is directly responsible for up-arming them in regards to I.E.D.s. These things are armor piercing high tech badasses and Abdul Hashish Jamar is not building these things in his mud shack in Anbar or in a cave in Tora Bora. We must sanction Iran in some way. I think the world NEEDS to start getting tired of these guys and maybe have some mixed international special ops or someone knock them down a notch or two. Have a good rest of the 4th.

mark edward marchiafava   July 5th, 2008 - 12:12 am

The Great Decider referred to “our great democracy.” It’s a shame none of the newly welcomed immigrants corrected him on his continuing blunder. This country is NOT a democracy, much less a “great” one. But, to all the intentionally ignorant Amerikans, life is good.

Jamesb   July 5th, 2008 - 12:36 am

Mac-101 you are correct. The Soviets flooded the battle field with tanks in prodigious numbers. No doubt about that. T-34s rolled out of the factory at Stalingrad and rolled right into battle. Hitler was obviously a maniac and if he hadn’t meddled in tactics the Wermacht might have been more effective. (ex. splitting his Armies in the southern campaighn that wound up costing him his entire 6th Army. What 5000 guys made back to Germany in the 50’s? 90,000 died? More? Anyway the Soviets and Stalin thought nothing of wasting soldiers by the millions. Unbelieveable. This is a critical thought, we as Americans have a totally different mind set and luckily had (and have) men like Chesty Puller who doesn’t leave a SINGLE Marine, dead or alive, behind at Chosen Reservoir all the while conducting a fighting retreat. Amazing man and Marines. How can anyone not be proud of men like that. What did he say when informed that his forces were totally surrounded by zillions of Chinese? “Good, we got em just were we want them!” Anyway, yes, the kill rate German to Soviet was obscene but the Soviets didn’t seem to care, what’s a few peasants or two or three million?

BILL5321   July 5th, 2008 - 12:38 am

The people dragged off are everything I don’t want my kids to be.

Angry and Dum is no way to go through life.

Jamesb   July 5th, 2008 - 12:51 am

mark edward commie, you are correct, we are a Republic, not a democracy and you are a hairy sack sucker. You’re obviously unhappy with our little “democracy thingy” we got going here, why not leave? Maybe Castro needs a cabana boy. You sound like just the right type of bitc# for “El Presidente”. The next banana boat leaves in the morning, be on it.

Airwick   July 5th, 2008 - 12:58 am

JamesB,
One problem I have is the propensity to ascribe the label, “coward” to our enemies. These people may be many things (fanatics, irrational, cold blooded comes to mind) but they are not cowards. Anyone who is willing to die for a cause should not be taken lightly. NEVER underestimate your enemy.

Regarding World War II, it has always been my belief that the Germans had the finest army in the world at the time. They lost because the Russians had more men than they could kill and we produced more equipment than they could destroy. They were simply overwhelmed.

Mike   July 5th, 2008 - 1:04 am

These selfish people. Way to ruin a ceremony for new citizens. Liberals are selfish.

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 1:06 am

NoTenCommandmentsForMe wrote:
This Bush-piglet LIED to congress, the UN and the world to get his little adventure in Iraq. Don’t you get that? It isn’t AIR AMERICA who told us he lied. It’s his government’s own PAPER TRAIL. That has nothing to do with AIR AMERICA.

Where did you learn to attack Liberals, Lefties, and anyone NOT REPUBLICAN or EVEANGELLICAL JESUS LOVERS?

WHERE?

Oh, that’s right RUSH LIMBAUGH – the heroin addict…who was higher than a kite during the ramp-up to invasion. You ever wonder why he was drugging himself? Conscience. He shouldered the burden of convincing ignorant rabid vipers like yourselves of a LIE. You’d gobble heroin pills too if you knew you were about to aid and abett the crime of the century.”

Look at how hate-filled these children are! Heronin addict? Well I assume you know it wasn’t heroin, but it does have a nicer for these self promoted agents of tolerance. I guess when you’ve never experienced true hardship and evil in your life-time you have to create boogeyman in order to fight something. These libs keep screaming about how the country is ruined as they type from the computers and watch high definition televisions. I wonder how they’ll react when some nuclear weapon destoys one of our major cities. It’s going to happen. Do you really not think people who cut off innocent peoples’ heads would not do it? It’s only a matter of time, but if you ask me I would have thought it a good idea to have troops in a part of the world where the bombers would orginate. Oh my god..what am I thinking? Bring them all hope immediately. Who cares that the coutry will fall into chaos? And you know what, I don’t really care if these crazy people want to kill each other. I care because that country happens to sit on crap load of oil. I know you lefties hate to think of oil as important, but this has nothing to do with gas prices. As long as there’s oil under the control of madmen they have power. And with that power disaster looms. There’s always been a major war once every 50 years of so, why do you guys not think it will happen again? Just because John Lennon wrote “Give Peace A Chance” doesn’t mean it won’t happen again.

Rob   July 5th, 2008 - 1:13 am

Note to hecklers: If your goal is to make your argument in an intelligent and germane manner, then you have failed. Utterly. Why would anyone think that this uncivil discourse would influence public opinion?

I am not sure what the motivation is for such uncivil discourse, but it does not seem to have anything to do with actually making a difference in the world. What a waste of time.

Lacie   July 5th, 2008 - 1:17 am

Usual idiots show up and do this circus routine.
I’m surprised someone didn’t punch them out.
It was nice to see the scum snatched by the security and taken out.
Good riddance code pinkos and Michael Mooreites!!

Scott   July 5th, 2008 - 1:24 am

dsavid leanard wrote:

“…Here they are at a welcoming ceremony for America’s newest citizens…and these dolts have to go and mar the occasion with their ignorance…”

Excuse me. It’s called democracy in action. You don’t like it? Move to Russia -home of the ONE PARTY RULE which republicans dream of. Or Iran – Home to the worldest best Theocracy!

This is a joke right? Democracy in action! Democracy is voting. Abusing your right to free speech has nothing to do with democracy. Of course you can do it and make a fool of yourself, but our freedom of speech also gives us the right to call out you fools for what you are. No class, childish liers. Yes I said liers. Republicans dream of one party rule? I got news for you, conservatives are the vast majority of people who are and would be fighting to defend your right to be stupid and ignorant…not libs. Why do you think everyone votes republican when the crap hits the fan? They do it because they know deep down that liberal have no back bone nor will to die for a greater belief. The libs don’t even try to hide their hope for silencing their opposition. Pelosi is on record as saying she wants to bring back the “fairness doctrine” which would order radio stations to hire liberal thinkers. Why should the government be forcing businesses to hire people with certain political beliefs? Because them dems what to destoy the reblican party by silencing desent and buying off the votes of millions of Americans. Conservatives honestly belief in a government with desenting views. We’d fight and die so that we’d have it. Ask any conservative and i bet they’ll tell you they think it’s a good idea to have vastly different political views in government. We truly belief in checks and balances. However, I bet if we were to ask dsavid leonard and others of their ilk if they could destroy conservative they would whole-heartedly answer in a second yes.

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 1:36 am

jack July 4th, 2008 – 6:27 pm

“To all you right wing fanatics, foaming at the mouth at the sight of American citizens venting their hate for this failed president, I say good riddance. I am a registered Republican tired of your extremism, your hatred for America and its values, your hate and fear of the Constitution and the people of this country who feel and look differently than you. I am the new GOP! Bush and his administration should be facing impeachment and war crimes courts and made to pay for lying to the people over and over…I even think, after the past 7 years of total failure that the one thing they have achieved is the failure of our once credible press to thoroughly investigate the events of 9/11…and its aftermath, and who really was involved and where over a trillion dollars went…..I have to admit, it has hurt in the past to vote for Democrat, but this year, it is a pleasure. The extremists who measure patriotism by a flag (made in
China) have cost us dearly and it past the time to shout and vote them down……”

I don’t believe this guy for a second. You are a “phony Republican” (i love how that term gets your panties in a bunch). Only the most dogmatic of leftiests would regurgitate that crap. Nice try though…I can see how in you mind pretending to be a former Republican might bolster an insane argument. Kind of like that McClellen guy. If this guy hadn’t come out and trashed the administration no lib in the world would believe a word he said. Of course, when he comes out with a harsh judgement of the administration the libs defend his word as unassiliable. Good try though.

Smegolicious   July 5th, 2008 - 1:55 am

This comment won’t change anything anymore than any other.

Happy paragraphing!

lutzito   July 5th, 2008 - 2:01 am

Reminder for our day to fast and pray for this tremendous heritage given to us to guard and preserve.

God bless and defend America,

Deana

We have much to be thankful for on the Fourth of July. We know that God has blessed this country with a Christian heritage that has yielded many blessings. But, unless we pass our great gift on to our children and grandchildren, all they have to believe is what they read in their textbooks and see on the Internet and television. Christ and our country are counting on you.
OUR REAL ROOTS:
This is one e-mail that needs to be shared. But then, we may already be too late. God help us.

Did you know that 52 of the 55 signers of The Declaration of Independence were orthodox, deeply committed Christians? The other three all believed in the Bible as the divine truth, the God of scripture, and His personal intervention.

It is the same congress that formed the American Bible Society. Immediately after creating the Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress voted to purchase and import 20,000 copies of scripture for the people of this nation.

Patrick Henry, who is called the firebrand of the American Revolution, is still remembered for his words, ‘Give me liberty or give me death.’ But in current textbooks the context of these words is deleted. Here is what he said: ‘An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.’

These sentences have been erased from our textbooks.

Was Patrick Henry a Christian? The following year, 1776, he wrote this ‘It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here.’

Consider these words that Thomas Jefferson wrote on the front of his well- worn Bible: ‘I am a Christian, that is to say a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our Creator and, I hope, to the pure doctrine of Jesus also.’

Consider these words from George Washington, the Father of our Nation, in his farewell speech on September 19, 1796:

‘It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible. Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, our religion and morality are the indispensable supporters. Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that our national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.’

Was George Washington a Christian? Consider these words from his personal prayer book: ‘Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the lamb and purge my heart by the Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in thy fear, and dying in thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of thy son, Jesus Christ.’

Consider these words by John Adams, our second president, who also served as chairman of the American Bible Society.

In an address to military leaders he said, ‘We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and true religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.’

How about our first Court Justice, John Jay?

He stated that when we select our national leaders, if we are to preserve our Nation, we must select Christians. ‘ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian Nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.’

John Quincy Adams, son of John Adams, was the sixth U.S. President.

He was also the chairman of the American Bible Society, which he considered his highest and most important role. On July 4, 1821, President Adams said, ‘The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.’

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President of the United States reaffirmed this truth when he wrote, ‘The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country.’

In 1782, the United States Congress voted this resolution: ‘The congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.’

William Holmes McGuffey is the author of the McGuffey Reader, which was used for over 100 years in our public schools with over 125 million copies sold until it was stopped in 1963. President Lincoln called him the ‘Schoolmaster of the Nation.’

Listen to these words of Mr. McGuffey: ‘The Christian religion is the religion of our country. From it are derived our notions on character of God, on the great moral Governor of the universe. On its doctrines are founded the peculiarities of our free institutions. From no source has the author drawn more conspicuously than from the sacred Scriptures. From all these extracts from the Bible I make no apology.’

Of the first 108 universities founded in America , 106 were distinctly Christian, including the first.

Harvard University, chartered in 1636. In the original Harvard Student Handbook rule number 1 was that students seeking entrance must know Latin and Greek so that they could study the scriptures:

‘Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies is, to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning. And seeing the Lord only giveth wisdom, let everyone seriously set himself by prayer in secret to seek it of him (Proverbs 2:3).’

For over 100 years, more than 50% of all Harvard graduates were pastors!

It is clear from history that the Bible and the Christian faith, were foundational in our educational and judicial system. However in 1947, there was a radical change of direction in the Supreme Court.

Here is the prayer that was banished:

‘Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence on Thee. We beg Thy blessings upon us and our parents and our teachers and our country.

Amen.’

In 1963, the Supreme Court ruled that Bible reading was outlawed as unconstitutional in the public school system. The court offered this justification: ‘If portions of the New Testament were read without explanation, they could and have been psychologically harmful to children.’

Bible reading was now unconstitutional , though the Bible was quoted 94 percent of the time by those who wrote our constitution and shaped our Nation and its system of education and justice and government.

In 1965, the Courts denied as unconstitutional the rights of a student in the public school cafeteria to bow his head and pray audibly for his food.

In 1980, Stone vs. Graham outlawed the Ten Commandments in our public schools.

The Supreme Court said this: ‘If the posted copies of the Ten Commandments were to have any effect at all, it would be to induce school children to read them. And if they read them, meditated upon them, and perhaps venerated and observed them, this is not a permissible objective.’

Is it not a permissible objective to allow our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments?

James Madison, the primary author of the Constitution of the United States , said this: ‘We have staked the whole future of our new nation, not upon the power of government; far from it. We have staked the future of all our political constitutions upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.’

Today we are asking God to bless America . But how can He bless a Nation that has departed so far from Him?

Most of what you read in this article has been erased from our textbooks. Revisionists have rewritten history to remove the truth about our country’s Christian roots.

I, Mary Jones, the designer of this web page, encourage all who read and agree with the words herein, to share it with others, so that the truth of our nation’s history may be told.

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Tom   July 5th, 2008 - 2:02 am

We’ve made certain that every American citizen has freedom of speech, to an amazing degree. That’s wonderful. Too bad we can’t somehow manage to give everyone at least a little class and dignity, too.

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 2:04 am

jack July 4th, 2008 – 6:41 pm

“The last resort of your wing nuts that have brought so much shame to this country is name calling. You droolers on the fringe need to look at who you really are. Lying is something you seem to overlook in those you blindly support, like Bush, Cheney, Feith, etc…you are indeed lying to yourself if you think you represent what America is turning to…we have had it with you…the new GOP might take a pass on this election, but we will be heard from…we are sick of your divisivness, ignorant, and unamerican rantings…stick to hate radio and FOX…that is all you have….”

You just keep over-playing your hand Jack. This post looks like it came right out of the liberal playbook. People who are conservatives or truly were at one time just don’t think like this. Hate radio? Fox news? This is laughable! I suppose if giving the other side of the story that the main stream media doesn’t give is hate then I guess you could call it hate radio. Again, you out yourself so obviously. Libs constantly play this game. If you can’t win an arguement then just say the person is hate-filled. And really, even the liberals know there’s nothing sinister about FOX news. They only go after it because it’s the one MSM voice that doesn’t bend over backwards to blather the democratic talking points. This FOX derangement is truly telling. FOX goes out of there way to give both sides a chance to defend their positions. Whenever they discuss an issue they almost always have one conservative and one liberal. What’s so evil about that? On the other hand, just look how the most hateful person on TV Keith Olberman runs his show. Only guests that puppet his views. I think he’s had Obama on his show at least half a dozen times and he’s never asked him a tough question. And at the end, he picks a conservative and calls them “the worst person in the world” for simply not having the same opinion as Olbmerman himself. Of course, if this fails Keith will just wrench something out of context from something a conservative has said or wrote and then beraid the person for being a bigot or something along those lines.

Conservtive says “It really upsets me when people say that I am a racist”.

Olberman:

“Tonight on Countdown a conservative says (edit first 8 words out of quote) “I am a racist”. That’s our worst person in the world.

I’m barely exaggerating. This is the kind of crap this guy pulls. So anywaw Jack. Again the fact that you point to “hate”, FOX news, et. al as reasons for going to vote Dem really just give you away. Look there’s a lot of different opinions here, just be proud of your liberal beliefs, but your not fooling anybody when you say you used to be a Republican.

nobama   July 5th, 2008 - 2:09 am

If IQ tests and tests about how the US government worked were a requirement to vote, there NEVER would be a liberal president elected in this country. Wait and see what will happen IF the empty suit of “change” is elected to our economy. The taxes will destroy us. This country was formed and set free from over taxing with guns and violence, it may be time for that again.

CSH   July 5th, 2008 - 2:14 am

What the hecklers forget is that in addition to demonstrating against the President, they interrupted the swearing-in ceremonies for these new citizens. Without making ANY commentary about Bush at all, neither for, nor against, I think it’s sad that a very special day for these folks, the official attainment of new citizenship – the welcoming to their new home country – and the 4th of July, were all made unpleasant and distasteful by the protests. It’s not so much infuriating as it is just plain sad.

ever heard of Lon Horiuche? he's still at large   July 5th, 2008 - 2:26 am

I really wish the dollar was collapsing
and the people tired of having their lives run
for them by nanny state. We’re free to run our mouths off we’re free to even have guns in our shacks, but unplugging from the sheeple matrix will get you or your wife’s head blown off by an FBI sniper or your women and children tortured, gassed and set on fire on live government/corporate TV.

zach   July 5th, 2008 - 2:27 am

Why do you people hate Bush so much? In the 5 or 6 years since the attack on the World Trade Center not one major terrorist attack has been committed on U.S. soil and unemployment decreased for almost his whole term. And these videos of the men and women dying is very heartbreaking but you must put it in perspective and see how little troops we have lost.(There are more people killed in just the black community alone in a year then in the whole Iraq War.) Do you not want to defend and spread democracy? Or do you want to sit there and just try interfere in and make the life of other Americans worse. Shouldn’t we aim to make the lives of oppressed people better? You crazy far left liberals(not all liberals) have to not be so ignorant and see the facts.

Swing Voter   July 5th, 2008 - 2:54 am

That was rude of the hecklers.

Shane   July 5th, 2008 - 3:14 am

I feel bad for those being sworn in as new legal citizens. They had the honor of the President swearing them in tarnished by this trash protesting. As far as the losers like sickentired calling this an illegal war, according to which law? You are an idiot. Also, there are times and places for things. Someone’s ceramony is poor taste. It was their ceramony, not Bush’s that got ruined.

ICEPICK223   July 5th, 2008 - 3:16 am

I LIKES TO TYPE DA BIG WURDS SO PEEPLE CAN SEE DEM BETER.. I HOPE YU PEEPLE RELIZE I AM RETARDED AND HAVE IQ OF TYPCAL LIBRUL.. 23!

MY MOMMA AM SO HAPY… SHE MOVEDED ME OUT OF THE OUTHOUSE AND INTOS DA DOGHOWS… WE HAPY AND VOTE FOR AL O’BAMA… HE NAMEDED AFTER ALABAMA

ALBAMA AM GUD SOUTHRN STATE AM WE AM GLAD THEY HAVE NIGRUHS TO HEP THEM..

Mark   July 5th, 2008 - 3:22 am

Damn. Welcome to America. These people came, after much hardship I am sure, to receive the freedoms of our country from no less than the President. What did they get? Spoiled natural born citizens flaunting theirs. Abusing it even. I have disliked presidents in the past. Do you know what I did about it? I voted aginst them. This is vulgar. Is there a way to revoke citizenship?

dsavid leanard   July 5th, 2008 - 3:22 am

Does anyone have any anal-lube? My male friend and I have a large german shepard staying with us and he is so over-hung that he cant penetrate my round buttocks without causing great pain…(and lots of pleasure..tee hee)

Nicolle   July 5th, 2008 - 3:24 am

Lou Dobbs fan why are you spelling George Bush Jorge? Are you trying to be funny?

dsavid leanard   July 5th, 2008 - 3:27 am

I collect used black male stars and athletes soiled underpants.. if you have any of these, please contact me so we can arrange a deal.. I’m serious!! My stud -lover has a fetish of being gagged with Shaq’s monsterous jock strap while i bugger him silly.. and I just cant get the supplies.. I would aproach Shaq… but he’d probably stomp a prissy shirt-lifter like me.. please help me.

I have drawers worn by Ben vereen, Lou Rawls, Patrick Ewing and even Pele.. (that sweaty Spanish hunk!!)

dsavid leanard   July 5th, 2008 - 3:29 am

When I was in the Marines they called me the fruit of the loom!!

CW2 Bhawk pilot   July 5th, 2008 - 3:31 am

What I hate is the looney left tries to use us in the military, like they are helping us. We do not have anything in common with the left. We don’t support your wacky views. I don’t care about terrorist’s rights. I don’t care you don’t like my commander and chief. If I am told to deploy I go, now that may seem like a robot to you on the left, but I don’t care. I believe it what I am doing, I care for the soldier, marine, airman, sailor and coastie I fly and would do anything to support them. Liberals I could care less about PERIOD! “I support the troops but not the war” I tell them Then you don’t support me.

dsavid leanard   July 5th, 2008 - 3:35 am

I once dated a big black body builder… he was 6 foot 10 and was hung so big it felt like i had tripped and fell butt first onto my bed post!!!

I miss him so much!!

JLS   July 5th, 2008 - 3:41 am

Just
Like
Stalin..

Facist Liberal liars

to hell with the Statists   July 5th, 2008 - 3:51 am

Lax immigration and allowing our country to be invaded by millions of illegal aliens are going to split this country up into fighting factions.

There’s nothing to stand in the way of terrorists
attacking on our soil again. Everytime you come accross a “speak no English” illegal alien will let ya
know what a waste Homeland Security spending is( by the way Homeland Security came about during the Clinton admin and was implemented during Bush same with the Iraq war invasion)

That some of the terrorists involved in the 911
attacks can be traced to involvement in the first WTC and the OKC bombing. The FBI was
was right on their heels up until they boarded those airplanes.

I dislike Bush for the same reason that I dislike
the Clintons. You two sides of the same coin
a nice little trick devised to make you think
that you are throwing the bums out every election
but in reality are only changing names of the
same policies and direction with World government
being the goal.

The unemployment rate has done nothing but increase. The government just doesn’t count
people who gave up on the unemployment lines
and are no longer seeking unemployment benefits.

The dollar has eroded to dangerous lows that not even Chinese vendors want it. It’s also the reason why things like Oil and precious metals
have skyrocketed and why people are going to freeze to death and starve here in the United States this coming winter.

S “orry folks, but we’re too busy $pandering$ to the millions of criminal invaders to cut ya some slack. be a good American and turn into a popsicle at the landfill as to help your community save on energy costs”

rebecca   July 5th, 2008 - 3:54 am

“Today we are asking God to bless America . But how can He bless a Nation that has departed so far from Him?

Most of what you read in thi€s article has been erased from our textbooks. Revisionists have rewritten history to remove the truth about our country’s Christian roots. ”

Thank you for the outstanding post. Truth is truth. Once a people forget God, their end is at hand.

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Efarstan   July 5th, 2008 - 4:08 am

Dont the protestors seem like bad breeding results…wearing dirty
underwear on their heads?

Barker   July 5th, 2008 - 4:23 am

Regarding: By, “B.J. July 4th, 2008 – 10:08 pm,” this comment…”We have a president that called our sacred founding document “just a G.Damned piece of paper”! And you wonder why he has protestors?”

My remarks: THAT’S A LIE, a false statement put forward out of the grim imagination of yet another Liberal, from website called (something like) “Washington Blue.”

Whoever writes/publishes that site printed that false, fictitious, alleged “quote” by Bush years ago and of course the Liberal internet continues through today to repeat it as if it was true. I guess they reason that since they read it on a Liberal blog, it just ~has to be right.~

Problem is, it’s wrong. It’s a falsehood, a lie, a baseless allegation, literally made-up in the mind of a Liberal suffering Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Otherwise, if you propose that alleged “quote” to be true, show the world a video of President Bush making such a statement, or, bring forth two witnesses who heard him say such a thing.

Conveniently enough, no such corroborating evidence exists. Thus, yet another Liberal and irrational website has simply made something up, written about it as IF it was “true” and the Liberal internet falls blindly, foolishly behind it.

It’s a lie, a falsehood, a deceitful allegation made entirely up by an irresponsible maniac.

Johan   July 5th, 2008 - 4:24 am

Free speech might be a God-given right in the United States, but it should definitely be tempered with manners and correct etiquette. This is something the protesters seem to neither understand or care about.

Sarah Van   July 5th, 2008 - 4:35 am

Good grief! Will that rabid, frothing at the mouth, code pinko SEEK PSYCHIATRIC HELP? I am so sick of those mentally deranged gasbags standing up and shrieking every single time a camera is within range. I attended a small town parade this morning and the pinkos interrupted the parade by rushing into the street and screaming obscenities about the President. In front of children, no less. Is that what passes for discourse in the fetid mind of the left?

Barker   July 5th, 2008 - 4:42 am

I agree, Sarah Van. I’ve never heard the Code Pinko idiots make sense or speak as reasonable adults, or, seen them behave remotely reasonably. They just screech and harass everyone else. The Benjamin lady is particularly crazy (which isn’t to say the rest are not).

Something to keep in mind, however, about the founding members is that they all “inherited” or “acquired” wealth and thus, have never had to prove themselves to society in general — they’re financially well to do because they either married and divorced vast wealth (founder, Evans did that) or they inherited it (Benjamin’s situation). So, they’re quite literally immature and self indulgent in an extreme degree, in very selfish terms, self-centered, self-obsessed, entirely selfish and inconsiderate, dominating, aggressive people.

Jack Kennedy   July 5th, 2008 - 5:08 am

Luved reading the LIBERAL postings – thats entertainment.

The Real Americans are being killed by the LIBERAL’S HIGH GAS PRICES, LIBERAL’S HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT and LIBERAL’S HIGH FORECLOSURES of the DEMOCRAT congress.

DEMOCRATS come to power in 06 and in eight months take the Real Americans in the toilet. Liberals continue to do traiorous actions against the troops and whine about being called out on not supporting the troops – Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Dems are killing Real Americans. barak HUSSEIN obama and his surragates run down a Real American hero for being shot down and made a POW. Good job, traitors.

And barak HUSSEIN obama wonders why all Americans know he is not patriotic to Real America.

elect more democrats and get more high gas prices, high unemployment, global warming farce, business persecution, foreclosures and american traiters.

barak HUSSEIN obama
– muslim connection – childhood schools, father and relatives
– rezko – criminal neighbor, friend, mentor
– ayres – friend, mentor, terrorist
– rev wright – friend, mentor, pastor, racist, America hater, white hater
– michelle – wife, america hater, whitey hater

DEMOCRATS – CONGRESS – CULTURE OF CORRUPTION.

The Great Unwashed   July 5th, 2008 - 5:17 am

Protesters or just more of the undeserving people that have never worked, paid bills, paid dues, had real worries

Just more of the liberal elites telling The Real Americans what is best for them. Just like global farce forcing new taxes and loss of freedoms for the Real American People.

And if you dont agree or join the harrassement of the prez, etc, then you dont deserve to live or anything else.

friggin liberals – the death of the REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE

Robert   July 5th, 2008 - 6:09 am

As a conservative, I’m not a fan of Bush, who does not understand the concept of conservatism, judicial or otherwise.

However, these nutjobs are lacking in respect for the office, for our institutions, our traditions, and for their fellow Americans. Rudely interrupting a sitting President during an Independence Day address at Monticello is not an action performed only against the President but against the whole country. It is an assault on a social and civic moment of national cohesion.

Listen, you pink whackos, we are already familiar with your gripes and beliefs. We know you believe he is a war criminal, and that you hate him. Your words don’t increase “awareness,” they only serve to interrupt a public ceremony celebrating our independence from the Mother Country.

You are so filled up with yourselves. Your martyr- and messiah-complexes, narcissism, spoiled-brat mentality for coming at the world is all that is on display here, not some blow for freedom.

Now all I would like to see is for a the Northeast states and the West Coast states to break off and form their own socialist, Platonic, utopic ‘republics,’ and all you nuts can drag your dead-weight citizens with you and go craft your wonderland there, and we’ll keep the rest. I’d rather have an American flag with 40 or so stars on it than continue to share a country with you knuckleheads, and I’m sure this plan is amenable to you, as well. We’ll honor God and hard work and keep a robust military, and you can welfare-state yourselves into your heaven-on-earth. Does that sound like a plan?

Vaughn Michael   July 5th, 2008 - 6:26 am

I don’t know how George puts up with these airheads……….I’ll take George Bush any day over the type of leaders these idiots would support………..Hey, did you ever wonder why this type don’t shout mindless verbal abuse in some hate-filled Islamic country….Oh Yeah,…….that would take real guts because thats where real war-criminals and oppressors live. They’d never make it back to their cars alive in those countries after mouthing off.

Big Mofo   July 5th, 2008 - 6:28 am

Too many idiot liberals here to address….. The thing that strikes me is that this day was supposed to be a celebration of “Legal” immigrants becoming citizens by legal means. These nut jobs decided to turn it into their own little media soapbox and ruined it for both the new citizens and their friends and families. There are plenty of outlets for this type of dissent against the president’s policies, a ceremony celebrating new citizens isn’t one of them. Like the morons who picket against the military at military funerals, these idiots do nothing but bring dsgrace to themselves and their cause. Instead of engendering sympathy for their cause, they have pissed people off to the point were they would line up to kick them in the gonads. Congratulations, way to get attention for yourselves idiots.

Ritty77   July 5th, 2008 - 6:33 am

To all those who have worn the uniform, THANK YOU for defending my freedom.

To all the those that defend the protesters, tell me why their speech is more important than someone else’s? When they interrupt another who is speaking by shouting over them, they show their contempt for the very thing they claim to be supporting. The truth is, liberals only support free speech if they agree with what’s being said, which is usually lacking in decency and common sense. You are an embarrassment.

DRock   July 5th, 2008 - 6:42 am

How those security were able to not punch out those obnoxious loud mouth bitches is truly amazing.

worg   July 5th, 2008 - 6:43 am

George Bush is a murderer, a torturer and a war criminal.

He needs to be arrested, tried and punished along with the rest of his cabinet. His actions while in office are criminal. The man is a crook. His cabinet and his advisers are also crooks. It’s not debatable and is very cut and dried.

Right wingers, you’re so big on law and order, why not about torture and about the murder of women and children?

DRock   July 5th, 2008 - 6:47 am

WORG – you are an idiot.

Vixxen   July 5th, 2008 - 7:14 am

Thanks GWB for destabilizing the international oil markets by warring against Iraq, threatening Iran and creating such belicosity with Venezuela. Me and my friends in Exxon thank you so much.

Thanks A Million

Stan   July 5th, 2008 - 7:25 am

It’s the typical “Code Pink” moonbats

Kathy Hansen   July 5th, 2008 - 7:27 am

Liberals just love and live to hate. These washed out old hippies are trying to recapture their youth and need to grow up already before they do even more damage.

Krystal   July 5th, 2008 - 7:36 am

How people behave locally, such as these uncivil loons, shows how they would behave globally. If they were in power we would have more hate, less freedom, and more immature tantrums leading to more wars. Free speech doesn’t entitle one to be rude, or shout over someone else. That is just ill breeding. Let the person speak, and hold your protest later. I basically ignore anti war protestors who behave violently and scream and yell. They want peace? Act like it. They deny everyone else’s chance to speak but their own. They could use that crazy energy to help someone versus acting like two year olds.

Krystal   July 5th, 2008 - 7:41 am

One thing that would be good to test is if Obama is elected – everytime he tries to give a speech there should be a group of citizens shouting him down and protesting. See how far these same people tolerate it, and how it is portrayed on the news. Most likely protests would be banned, and the news would portray the protestors as racists or something. It would be a real interesting experiment of free speech for all.

bud nathans   July 5th, 2008 - 7:43 am

This incompetent who has done more to weaken the USA than anyone, ever, says”We believe in free speech,” as the freespeakers are being dragged away. Typical.

While the mindless lemmings scream “We’re #1!”

Since I was brainwashed by Marx and Mao, as y’all would say, did you ever wonder who you were brainwashed by? The very same good folks who pick your pockets everyday, while telling you, “Look over there! They’re the one who are robbing you!”
What a hoot!

Grant   July 5th, 2008 - 7:44 am

Assholes..simply assholes.

Qualtrough   July 5th, 2008 - 7:46 am

I think I just found THE website for the 23% who still think Bush is doing a ‘heckuva job’. True conservatives, not what passes for conservative nowadays, and liberals both dislike Bush for shredding our constitution, involving us in two illegal and disastrous wars, sullying the good name of the US by engaging in torture, letting our dollar slide into worthlessness, and letting the economy slip into a depresssion. I could go on, but why bother? You people who think Bush is the bee’s knees really need to do some reflecting. Hope you enjoy your $20 dollar a gallon gasoline once Bush attacks Iran.

Darrel   July 5th, 2008 - 7:48 am

And that is the liberal left like code stink. They claim thier freedom of speech, but deny it to others. Stinking freakish pigs.

Brian   July 5th, 2008 - 7:49 am

Just jerks.

Military Wife   July 5th, 2008 - 8:07 am

A grateful and heartfelt thank you to those protesters who had the backbone to speak up and say NO MORE to this warmongering thug and his brainless lemmings that still think he’s doing a “heckuva job”. They are todays true patriots and there is nothing “uncivil” about them protesting according the US Constitution. And “Krystal”…maybe you should read this important precious document before you call ANYONE a “loon” especially the First Amendment. People have fought and died because of this valuable document and it is NOT something to be taken lightly or to abuse by the Executive branch of the US gov’t. How do you think this country was founded? It was due to our “protesting” against the British policies, the taxes. But I guess, you would still call our Revolutionary War countrymen that fought the British Redcoats, “uncivil loons”. I suggest you read (or re-read) your American history and not make such inflammatory comments.

Andy   July 5th, 2008 - 8:16 am

It was good to see such pride in these new Americans. Welcome to the US. As for the 20 million plus criminal aliens, go home and follow the rules like these legal immigrants did. To see legal immigrants beeming with pride was wonderful. Compare this to criminal invaders that demand everything from benifits to amnesty. They have no pride in America or fondness for the US. They simply want to remain a third world out post of their native land.

Greg Webber   July 5th, 2008 - 8:23 am

Flog these pieces of excrement then exile them to Liberia.

Nick   July 5th, 2008 - 8:24 am

We may still get Bush in front of a criminal court yet – one way or another. There’s been a lot of death and suffering under Bush – and we don’t forget things like that.

I was impressed by the protesters. It takes a lot of courage to protest a man who is responisble for the deaths of so many.

Let’s not lose faith. These fascists are only in power as long as we go along with them en masse. When someone stands up to Bush – it gives at least one other person the strength to do the same. And if they keep having to drag us off screaming – everyone will see how free we all really are.

Happy Bastille Day – in advance.

Dan in Denver   July 5th, 2008 - 8:31 am

Free speech for all, even idiots have a right to make fools of themselves, interrupting a ceremony welcoming immigrants to this great country. Immigrants that waited their turn, made sacrifices, worked hard, stayed out of trouble… These new Americans meet and pass the immigration requirements. They are honored guest that were being welcomed to this great country. But the protesters can’t see that, their selfish acts are what they are asinine and self centered. Protest before or after the ceremony; show some respect for the occasion. As Bill Clinton would as HOW DARE YOU!

Dracula   July 5th, 2008 - 8:34 am

To all the lefties that voted the democrats into power 2 years ago, try to justify your decision now.

The US invaded Iraq, March, 2003. From that date until November, 2006,which is approximately 44 months, the Republicans were in charge. The Democrats screamed that they were lied too, they ran their congressional races on the theme that they would end the war, and you lefties bought their spiel hook, line, and lewinsky. With the Democrats in charge of Congress, what happened? It’s been almost 24 months since and based on Obama’s 16 month schedule for troop withdrawal, it will be approximately 40 months before the withdrawal has been completed, if he doesn’t flip flop for a longer stay.

Do you think that Reid, Pelosi, and Obama lied to you? What do you think?

Kenny   July 5th, 2008 - 8:43 am

Did anyone notice the biased reporting, with the statement “free speech is put to the test,” then showing these obvious Code Pink-ers being forcibly removed? What about Bush’s right to free speech?

Lutzito   July 5th, 2008 - 8:49 am

To “Qualtrough” :

Make sure you finish high school, get and keep
a job, find out what it means to be an adult
and I’ll talk to you in 30 years when you will
have a totally different viewpoint like millions
before you :)

Mark   July 5th, 2008 - 9:06 am

For the anti American left, Bush bashing has become a fashionable national pastime.
I believe in free speech, but these mindless sheep are so rabid with hatred for George W. Bush that it overshadows any and all loyalty or love for their own country to the point where most of them would gladly sell us out just to see us fall.

Bush had an economy that was growing at about 4% even after 9/11.
It took only over a year of a democrat controlled congress to ruin that.
If Americans had any brains they would vote every one of the defeatocrats out of Washington because their agenda is anything but in the best interest of this nation.
While we give congress a democrat enema, we need to make sure Obama never sets foot in the White House even for dinner.

killerbee   July 5th, 2008 - 9:07 am

Since nobody cares, anyone see what’s happening in thay liberal UTOPIA called Detroit? There has NOT been 1 elected Republican in any position for over 30 years in that cess pool. The liberals graduate 25% of the kids. For the rest of you Detroiters, that means 75% failed. The Mayor is the most CORRUPT politician since, uh, well, there is a FBI investigation on going into the Detroit City Council. Apparently council member Monica Conyers (wife of communist U.S. Rep John Conyers) has been taking bribes along with numerous other great Dumocrats. All libs do is steal the money. They don’t do it very good as they usually get caught but with other lib judges running the courts, they get a slap on the wrist. IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT A BARRY OBAMA-PELOSI-REID RUN GOVT WILL BE LIKE, LOOK AT DETROIT!! It’s one ugly baby.

devilsadvocate   July 5th, 2008 - 9:14 am

This good man had all of the authorization to go to war! In the past, Congress spoke with authority. Not today. They use soft words and ambiguous statements to distance themselves from their decisions if they need to later on in their self interested career. Bottom line, Congress approved him to go to war, and they continue to fund the war.

Our constitution grants the power of the purse to Legislative, (Congress), not the Executive, (the President). These partisan, self serving gentlemen could cut the funding in a mere vote and the war would be de-funded.

Don’t hate this man! You may dislike his actions because of your personal or misguided beliefs, but make no mistake about the state of affairs. We are better off today than anytime in the past. We are safer, not as safe, but safer than before.

In closing, tell Congress what you want: You want the troops to do the job, free them of their bonds so that they can hunt down the bad guy. You want lower gas, tell them to drill here, drill now. You want more border security, tell them. They are the group of individuals that make the bills. They are the individuals that fund the pork projects, not the President. I also might add, that it is Congress that laces a “war funding” bill with agriculture, katrina and alternative funding items. They do this to waste our tax dollars in a bill/measure that the President will not veto! Spineless but brilliant cowards

killerbee   July 5th, 2008 - 9:16 am

Oh yeah, since the FBI investigation leaked out, Council woman Monica Conyers, a bar fightin, Shrek shrieking, bribe taking Democract/commie, hasn’t been feeling very good so she hasn’t shown up to work in 2 weeks. She was quoted as saying, “I’ll get to work when I get to work”.(Detroit News, July 5, 2008). Nice attitude, but certainly acceptable to liberal Dumocrats. Real hard to see why Detoit HAS FAILED and has zero hope unless the Feds can wipeout the sewer.

satch   July 5th, 2008 - 9:18 am

These pink “skanks” think they can solve a problem with a screamed phrase,which shows the real depth of their intelligence.

Tony   July 5th, 2008 - 9:19 am

Worg. You’re an idiot. What women and children have we tortured and murdered? Please be specific.

P.S. Obama AND Osama love you!

mjones   July 5th, 2008 - 9:20 am

Whatever your thoughts…The point is that this man is the President of the United States. Not one person came out to hear these people protest. They came to celebrate the 4th and hear the President. You should always respect the OFFICE even if you do not respect the man. These people need to grow up and be thankful for their country and it’s FREEDOM. God bless America.

Modd Kenwood   July 5th, 2008 - 9:22 am

I detest LIBERALS to the core of my being.

Mark   July 5th, 2008 - 9:26 am

Military wife, if you really are and I doubt that, then you do you dishonor your husband’s service.
Were this Revolutionary war times, you would find yourself on the wrong end of the conflict standing next to the redcoats, not against them.
Our government is infiltrated and corrupted with democrat traitors who would gladly give us over to our enemy.
Why must you lend a helping hand to them?

In reality your probably a code pink loon full of contempt for all things American.

Tony   July 5th, 2008 - 9:29 am

Isn’t it interesting what happens when liberals run things. Look what happened when Katrina hit New Orleans. Riots, looting, people shooting at rescue helicopters. None of that happened in MS or Bama. I’m sitting here in Biloxi…and it’s still rebuilding but they’re doing great. I didn’t see any riots in the midwest during this last flood…just a lot of good american neighbors helping each other….kinda makes you say…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Texan   July 5th, 2008 - 9:36 am

As I read through the comments here, I noticed they were all leaning toward a political sense.

When you look at what really took place in this video, we should all be saddened.

Here we have people who legally came to this country and followed all of the processes we have laid out in order to gather where they were. They are legal immigrants, full citizens of our country and it is a day they have worked for and dreamed of. How pathetic and low can people go when they have no regard for where they are or who they are amongst when they start disrupting a ceremony?

It has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with how pathetic, uncaring and self consumed some people have become. I feel sorry for those immigrants, having had their ceremony interrupted by a few of the idiots in this country.

John Smallberries   July 5th, 2008 - 9:37 am

I read the first ten or so comments here. I fear for the literacy of this country.

Krystal   July 5th, 2008 - 9:39 am

MilitaryWife – my, my – I call the protestors “loons” and you suggest I re-read the Constitution? And you call “loons” – inflammatory remarks? You really should look in the mirror – you were just calling Bush a warmongering thug and his supporters “brainless lemmings”. I called them loons because of their really childish behaviour. That was not showing backbone as you state – showing backbone means losing something significant when you stand up to something.
As for the Revolutionary War – get a grip. There is no comparison. As for Bush – the democratic congress has not shown any backbone in stopping the policies you seem to despise. So in essence you cannot blame one man alone for the country’s direction right now.
Why don’t you turn your hatred towards the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 americans on 9/11? Towards the African countries today who slaughter 100’s of thousands of their fellow man. There is plenty of horror in the world, and comparing Bush to a thug – well please tell me what you would call these other “leaders”.

real patriot   July 5th, 2008 - 9:43 am

even if you don’t respect the man, you can respect the office, or the ceremony, or the newest citizens who are proud to become part of this country.

free speech does not include the right to block others from enjoying the speech they came to hear. escorting wannabe-protesters from a non-political occasion is certainly not a denial of free speech.

with free speech comes the responsibility to know your surroundings and the relevance of the protest to the events at hand. let me know when you are having your next backyard bbq, i’ll bring my friends over and holler at you about non-bbq relevant things all day.

grow up and be worthy of the right to protest.

JD   July 5th, 2008 - 9:51 am

These old hags make me sick. They have no pride, no class and no patriotism. I hope they were arrested. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!

rwt   July 5th, 2008 - 10:04 am

President Bush could have added to his comment about believing in free speech that we also believe in good manners. Those who rudely interrupted the speech should have used more appropriate venues to express their opinions. It is an example of being self righteous to the point of drowning out those with whom you disagree and having no concern for anyone’s opinion other than your own. How can such people with any creditability claim to believe in free speech when they do not allow it for others? What a shameless disgrace they are to themselves and their families. The police exercised remarkable restraint.

Kathy Hansen   July 5th, 2008 - 10:05 am

And to all you libs out there that think protesting is cool, fashionable and patriotic, how cool fashionable and patriotic would you think protesting the outrageous taxes those of us that actually work pay?

R.J.   July 5th, 2008 - 10:09 am

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. But there are still plenty of sheeple willing to follow the great deceiver down to perdition. It truly is amazing how he fooled so many into stealing from the poor, the elderly and the children so he could give three trillion dollars to the rich. Amazing how he fooled the whole world into killing a million Iraqi’s with all those lies. But then, the devil is a master of lies. The poor devil and his followers aren’t allowed to see the consequences of their actions.

Rick   July 5th, 2008 - 10:12 am

To think people still support this man.

Jim   July 5th, 2008 - 10:15 am

Where were all these “protesters” when Clinton was invading countries and dropping bombs on foreign countries without Congress declaring war? They were silent. Why? Because it’s OK when a Democrat does it.

Should B. Hussein Osama become prez, the war in Iraq will continue, but these “protesters” will suddenly fade into obsecurity. They’re hypocrites. If Gore had won in 2000 and for the last 8 years had said and done the exact same things Bush has said and done, the liberals in this country would have worshipped him like he was a god. To those kooks, it’s not what is going on, it’s who’s doing it.

hubert   July 5th, 2008 - 10:19 am

“…which is why they hate Christians…”
i’m probably one of the people you would consider in the christian hating group. the funny thing is though is that i am a christian. what we hate is they are mongers of hate which goes against christianity.

Bobsopinion   July 5th, 2008 - 10:19 am

I would LOVE to see the security guards take these idiots from their seats and on to the next plane to Afganistan or China. Let them see what a great country this is and how REAL dictators act. Unfortuniotly, they will miss their trust account checks.

Steve   July 5th, 2008 - 10:22 am

The war will turn positive, instantly, if Obama is elected.

First of all,wake up and smell the coffee. We are not leaving Iraq for 100 years, this is certain. It is just a place we need to be, to protect our interests at this point in history. Obama knows this as well, he needed to appeal to the naive individuals in his party to get the nomination, so he lied about pulling out. If elected he will quickly reverse this position, blaming it on Bush for leaving him such a mess that he has to fix. Nothing on the ground will change, but, the media coverage will paint a different picture. The media will focus on the positive accomplishments taking place, not the negative. Obama will be recast as a WAR HERO.

sweatytexan   July 5th, 2008 - 10:49 am

RIGHT WING FREAKS, may I have your attention please….

An opinion that differs from yours is neither a “mental disorder” or “the devil’s playground.”

The way you handle differing opinions, however, will set you apart from more thoughtful voters this November.

Save your kicking and screaming tantrums for that time when you realize just how isolated the Republican party has become.

Brian   July 5th, 2008 - 10:49 am

Don’t worry. Once Hussein Obama is elected everything will be wonderful- a virtual Eden.

Chris from MD   July 5th, 2008 - 11:00 am

While I agree with free speech and all that, there is also a time and a place for everything and a citizenship ceremony is not the time nor the place. Please picture if you will yourself working at a degree in a prestitious university for 5 years. Working hard at it and you finally make graduation. Your standing in line to get your degree and here comes some a**holes ruining the ceremony because they don’t like something the president of the university is doing. These new citizens worked long, and hard, and spent a lot of money as well getting their citizenship the legal way and deserve an uninterupted ceremony. To these newest citizens I say welcome, thanks, and please pardon those a**holes who ruined your ceremony, looks like they need to get some;}. I hope you feel honored to have the president of the United States speaking at your ceremony. Love or Hate him he is the President.

Shane   July 5th, 2008 - 11:02 am

To Airwick;

“Why are we still going through these ridiculus checkpoints at airports?”

Because of 9/11. See intelligent people figured out a few things on 9/11 and liberals did not. The thing we found out was our intelligence service sucks. We found out again after 9/11 but liberals were to stupid to see the obvious answer in front of their faces. They fail to see the answer today as well.

We don’t have good intelligence, we don’t have any intelligence really on most of these countries. We took the lousy intelligence of the CIA, we backed it up with the intelligence of Britian, France and others and concluded Iraq at WMD’s. But we had no one inside Iraq to help us. Currently we have no one in Iran helping us much either. And lets look at a really obvious one, Niger Uranium. It is 96% of the countries exports, yet we had to send an uneducated, unqualified political hack there to find something he was completely unequipped to find. Joe Wilson. Why did we send him? Stupid arguments about his wife aside, the real answer, the answer that should stop you in your tracks is this: In a country whose number one export is uranium we did not have a CIA station or agent. Think about that statement. What the *&%$ is going on? Why would our spy agency not be spying on an African country exporting Uranium? Now tell me they actually have a clue about anything.

They aren’t going to catch someone at the airport, so we have check points.

Lawrence, Bel Air, MD   July 5th, 2008 - 11:04 am

Typical demon-crats can’t let new americans have their day; they had to have their say no matter what it costs others; they lucky to be in the Bush protected United States rather a terrorist let country; God Bless and Protect the United States from our internal terrorist!

Arthur   July 5th, 2008 - 11:09 am

These angry protestors are so humorous. They are so filled with seething rage toward President Bush – I wonder when the last time was that they laughed, or is life so serious there is no room for laughter, only hatred. Such sad and pitiful individuals. Bush always has the last laugh, however, as all the slurs and insults just roll off his back, while the protestors raise their blood pressure to dangerous levels, smoke coming out of their ears, veins in their foreheads popping out, all to no avail.

Brenda   July 5th, 2008 - 11:09 am

Liberals are such assclowns.

RightStuff   July 5th, 2008 - 11:12 am

These protesters are nothing but unfulfilled t*rds. They need to get jobs.

Doc   July 5th, 2008 - 11:15 am

Bunch of wackjobs if you ask me. Shoulda tased ‘em.

Sean Patriot   July 5th, 2008 - 11:16 am

Grummis, you sir are an unamerican commie fool

Nick   July 5th, 2008 - 11:19 am

Oh yeah, ANWR is the answer:) Offshore drilling, sure!

I’m amused to see how the destruction of our economy under Bush is awkwardly – and unconvincingly – being blamed by the right on the Democratic Congress. I notice there are never logical reasons given, although I’m sure a few you of you will try to come up with something to entertain us all very soon now.

Let me not mince words: we are truly screwed economically , and it is definitely Bush’s fault. Allow me to explain why, please, using only logic.

The ten dollars in your wallet in 2001 bought ten dollars worth of goods. Today, that same ten dollars is only worth 5.90 of what it what was worth in 2001. Now if anyone doesn’t understand that, let me simplify it with a touch of dramatic effect. Let’s say one day in 2001 your best friend shows up on your door step to borrow ten dollars from you because he left his wallet at home – but he promises to pay you back that same evening. You reluctantly agree. Your friend honors his promise – and shows up several hours later – but in his hand he holds a five dollar bill and some change. Five dollars and ninety cents to be exact. Isn’t this just the type of thing that could fracture a friendship? Well I can imagine it would – unless one had a memory problem. Now realize that it hasn’t happened in one day – but, rather – over a 7.5 year period.

So the point is this: The average gas price now – as of yesterday is 4.10 cents – but if the dollar had remained at the same value it was when Bush first got in – you would only be paying 2.42 cents a gallon. This isn’t cheap – but it’s a heck of a lot better. Than 4.10, right? Now also keep in mind that apparently just the fact that Bush mentioned attacking Iran the other day was enough to make the oil markets nervous and the price of oil went up immediately eleven dollars a barrel, directly because every time he does this – or this type of thing – he destabilizes the market. Good for oil companies, not so great for the rest of us. So how many times has Bush pushed the price of oil up by creating fear? May, many times. But for the sake of argument, let’s just conservatively say 30 dollars has been added to the price of oil because of this market-fear premium. It would be much easier to prove more – if I wanted to spend the day on this – but I’ve got a weekend to enjoy. So thirty bucks is another twenty something percent a barrel that has been added – in addition to our loss of 41 percent of our money – to the price of gas.
So we would be paying maybe 2.00 a gallon if the dollar hadn’t become devalued and we destabilized the world’s oil market. Now that is still a far cry from the 1.50 we were paying when Bill Clinton left office, but still not bad.

Now we do not have the money to pay for these wars -we’re basically having to borrow all of that money for it from China. Without funding the wars, clearly we would not be going in the hole every day to any serious degree at all. We might have to borrow one percent or three percent of the amount we are – but clearly no more. Now
the fact that we can’t pay back any of the money that we owe to the Chinese and need more and more of their money all the time means – they have the feeling they are never going to get their money back. Sure we can just print them some more money, like we’ve done under Bush – but the more money that’s out there for no reason other than the fact we printed it means – what’s already out their in currency already is just losing value more and more. Our currency has lost 41 pecent of it’s value under Bush simply becsaue we couldn’t stop borrowing enough money to fund these wars. Sure there will a few efforts to prop the dollar up – but it’s all just like swimming against the ocean

Also if you want to get an idea of when gas prices really started to go up on a chart, forget 9/11. Things were fairly stable after that. Here’s a clue. The prices started to skyrocket somewhere around the time we started buildup up and prepare for attacking Iraq.

So go ahead and go into ANWR and drill for more oil off of Florida. Oh don’t kid yourself. It will not help us combat the price of oil – but it will be a nice feel-good story for people to point to as proof that “something is being done.”
Oil companies went out of their way to close 24 oil refineries in the last few years – it was admitted in a congressional subcommitee by oil executives that they wanted to keep the supply low to keep the prices and profits high.

This country is obviously finished now as the unchallenged super power. But if we can just keep the “gee-whiz, everything’s-great narrative” alive a little bit longer – then perhaps the end may not be quite as daunting to face as we once thought.

Steve   July 5th, 2008 - 11:21 am

These loud-mouths are typical and unoriginal; they are just plain boring. Many of the posts supporting these misguided souls are also equally uninspired, mundane, and tedious at best.

They perceive themselves as intellectual elitists. Often they are weak physically or emotionally, therefore, they compensate by attempting to pierce an opponent with sharp intellect. Reread many of the preceding posts. Many of them rely on this tactic.

Kilroy_Was_Here   July 5th, 2008 - 11:24 am

Well, just look at the pieces of human filth in the audience. What a great country this is when trash like that actually have a voice.

Doc   July 5th, 2008 - 11:27 am

Sounds like Grummis’ underwear is too tight restricting normal thinking. Or maybe he’s just constipated.

Chris Donaldson   July 5th, 2008 - 11:29 am

Why is it only Democrats and Liberals are disrespectful of other people and you never see Republicans or conservatives disrupting a legitimate speaking venue? Hmmm. Must be that they are not civil. How sad that people cannot express ideas without interference.

killerbee   July 5th, 2008 - 11:32 am

The liberal Democrack party! Such lovers of Free Speech. They are responsible for free speech issues such as all the smut/porn you keep clicking over to between blogs, the ACLU removing “dangerous” religious symbols (christian only) from the public domain, NAMBLA’s right for pedaphiles to do disgusting things. Of course you can’t hand out anti-abortion info to woman, you can’t see you kids CHRISTMAS pagaent or go on CHRISTMAS break, and now Nancy “berka” Pelosi wants to CONTROL what you can listen to on radio (Unfairness Doctrine). In Germany of the 1930’s, their dictator stopped free speech, burned books, took over the media and radio, ENACTED GUN CONTROL to disarm his population, used brainwashing (tell a lie over and over again until they believe it). Sound familiar? “Global Warming is true, end the debate”, “tax the rich and give to the poor”, “Barry Obama for President”. Yuk! This country is full of Facists, but not in the Conservative/Republican party.

Paulo   July 5th, 2008 - 11:33 am

I guess that is one the few times Bush has ever heard from people that dare to disagree with him. He isn’t going to hear it from his clueless harumphers in the Whitehouse.

2 War Vet   July 5th, 2008 - 11:36 am

These protesters are welfare recipients and have little else to do. The poster who complained that Bush entered two countries without authorization is just an example of what Abe Lincoln meant when he said “tis better to remain silent and be though a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”. Wonder where the protesters were when that ugly black woman sang the black national anthem in Denver and when she was challenged by a white woman who said “we were not expecting this”, the singer? replied “get used to it because this is the way it is going to be”. Oh, really, my vote to Hillary or McCain and for the first time in my life, I have felt the need to join the NRA.

speedstan   July 5th, 2008 - 11:39 am

Funny how these morons try to interrupt a ceremony, and the same President who they accuse of being a “fascist” and a “dictator” reminds the audience that “we believe in free speech”. I suspect the irony was lost on these hysterical moonbats…

Jerry from AZ   July 5th, 2008 - 11:47 am

The liberal vision of American Justice: illegal aliens get treated like victims, and are given free schooling, health care, and legal protection in self-proclaimed “sanctuary cities” like SF and LA. OTOH, the legal immigrants get to have their moment of recognition for doing it the “right” way interrupted by a bunch of screaming fruitcakes. And you wonder why people in other countries think we’re crazy?

Betty Mack   July 5th, 2008 - 11:49 am

Chris Donaldson – Because Democrats and Liberals are bullies. Dick Gephart made a career of bullying folk on social security by making automated calls using celebrities threating loss of benefits if republicans. One he often used was a ugly little fat man named Asner who threatened us with loss of benefits if Bush was elected. He was and we didn’t. So much for the democrat truth squad. While no longer consider myself a member of any party, I will vote for Hillary or McCain. Hussein O’bamer and is his wife are “status” bullies and elitists.

Shane   July 5th, 2008 - 11:51 am

To Nick;

I know it complicated but lets see if I can explain it to you.

If you drill for oil, your chances of retrieving that oil increase if the area you are drilling is known to have oil. Lesson: We have to drill for oil where it is, not where we want it to be.

If we drill and bring forth the oil from large oil fields, there will be more oil on the market. The fields off the coast of Florida and in Anwar are enormous and could account for more than 15% of our domestic oil use. That is huge. We could stop importing oil from Venezuala at those levels. We could cut back from 25% to 10% of middle eastern oil. Price would drop. No one else out there can buy the quantity of oil we buy.

kmpk   July 5th, 2008 - 11:51 am

I’ve applied for my handgun permit and concealed weapons permit because these same freaks that protest Bush also believe I have no right to own a Gun. These protesters are complete morons. They also believe that Christians are a bigger threat to this countries national security than Muslim extremists. The loony left will never change. I want one of these idiots to please explain how their personal freedoms have been destroyed by Bush. They can’t!!!!

Ramrod   July 5th, 2008 - 11:53 am

It seems that some elements in this blog are hell bent on smearing this Great Man, President Bush. He has done what needed to be done. Especially in Iraq. The main terrorist threat was stemmig from that region. The thought of our nation not taking action would have suicide bombers applying their deadly trade in our cities. Your lack of intelligence in these matter is really breath taking.
The thought of a liberal getting into the White House is frightening. “Lets talk to the terrorsits and see if they can like us” attitude will get us all killed. If your type (bleeding hearted liberals) need to talk to them then I suggest you all go to these regions in the Middle East with open arms and give them a big hug for George Bush….Oh thats right your too much of being cowards to evan think of the thought of leaving the security of this geat nation to do so.

RobertG   July 5th, 2008 - 11:59 am

Silly and rude temper tantrums is what these silly and rude people do. My dog scratches herself. My dog is cute and loyal and these silly and rude people are not.
Yes, it is that easy. Enjoy the weekend.

Potomac Pete   July 5th, 2008 - 12:00 pm

These so-called “protesters” are nothing more than self-centered narcissistic hippie holdovers hoping to relive their 1960’s days of rage and get a little more attention before they are confined to wheelchairs and walkers. In their small little Olbermanesque minds, the “worst person in the world” is NOT a dicator like Mugabe or Castro, or a terrorist like Bin Laden, but George W. Bush – because liberals think they are the most important people in the world, therefore the worst person in the world must be their personal political opponent. The fact that they interrupted and ruined what should have been a special occasion for our newest citizens – people who apparently love their new country far more than they do – won’t affect their corrupted consciences one bit.

Sailor Sam   July 5th, 2008 - 12:00 pm

While I am against debates in any form, the democrats will insist upon them. Hopefully the moderator will ask how Baracks O’bamer could get into some of the most academically challenging the country with little nor no family money (his own words), bacause you can bet your booties they will go after McCains academic record. While they are at it, why doesn’t the moderator ask about the bully, Michelle and how she attended some of the same pestigious schools with her poor grades (her teachers even told her she didn’t qualify for those schools) and her financial status precluded such schools. Is it possible her high school grades were changed so she could qualify? Yes they were but she will deny it.

J.Abrams   July 5th, 2008 - 12:01 pm

Liberal aggression toward non-liberals is now on par with radical-Muslim views of non-Muslims. Both are consumed with hatred and revenge for anyone failing to share their own extremist views.

With nothing positive to offer, liberals wrap themselves with their petty finger-pointing, criticizing, name-calling, and juvenile temper-tantrums of blind rage and hatred in an attempt to fulfill their unjustifiable delusions of self-importance.

It is difficult to know which to fear more… those who wish to destroy American from the outside, or those wishing to destroy it from within.

jean   July 5th, 2008 - 12:06 pm

And even more, what about respect for fellow Americans? Those American who earned the right to become citizens were there for a very special and respectful event. Those who claim the “right of free speech” only care about that “right” when they disagree. This event rightfully deserved and demanded respect no matter what your views are about this country or the president. Funny, the only people I hear (even locally) who are spouting hate these days are the liberals even the supposedly intelligent ones. That doesn’t mean I don’t feel disgust sometimes. And these are the very people who want “hate crime” laws. I am proud to say my parents taught respect not hate, even to those I disagree with. Hate is not a word encouraged in my home nor was it encouraged in the home I grew up in. Maybe that’s why I live a happy and contented life. God Bless America!

Kevin   July 5th, 2008 - 12:11 pm

The fact that a bunch of protesters got up and yelled at the president doesn’t faze me (or him) much. Bush is a grown man and he know’s that this comed with the territory. What’s REALLY pathetic is the forum they chose – a special 4th of July ceremony for our newest citizens, people who came to this country, followed the rules, and earned their right to become Americans. They celebration of our country’s birth AND this special occasion for what is probably the high point in these people’s lives has to be interrupted by a bunch of hysterical fools. Yes, we have free speech in this country, but decent people know there is a TIME and PLACE for protest. In this case, the protesters showed that they clearly had no class nor consideration for anyone else.

Lbfent   July 5th, 2008 - 12:11 pm

Title of article should be: “Dogs continue to howl at the moon”.

c'est moi   July 5th, 2008 - 12:17 pm

Guerilla theatre tactics are soooooooo 70’s. The rest of us grew up, grew a brain, and got a life.
The bedwetters who live to sow their discontent should live in one of the paradises they long for. Say, Cuba?

adamrussell   July 5th, 2008 - 12:22 pm

Thats free speech in action. Except for the arrests.

Jacquelyn   July 5th, 2008 - 12:24 pm

President Bush was trying to honor a special occasion for these new American citizens. I think they had to right to infringe on this occasion. These protestors make themselves look foolish! They should feel honored to live in America where they can do their protesting at the ballot box. I can’t believe these people had nothing better to do than to make spectacles of themselves on such a beautiful day.

Yogi-man   July 5th, 2008 - 12:24 pm

Nick – read your comments blaming Bush for inflation – you promised logic – I found none – just haterd of Bush.

FYI, Democrats and their special interest enviro-wacko-commies pals havs stopped the sane developement of domestic energy for at least 35 years. That’s why you’re paying $4 plus per gal. Keep electing Democrats and the whole country is going to be flushed down Al Gore’s 1.6 gal toilet. Dems don’t really care if it’s $10 per gal. They’re for the “little” guy – NOT.

sickfrisco   July 5th, 2008 - 12:25 pm

The frothing, foaming Pink Pajama Grannies aren’t content to merely protest and act like fools. They have to spoil a special occasion for others in the process. The opportunity to be sworn in as citizens on the 4th of July and welcomed by our President should have been a special day for these people to remember for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, the arrognat, immature narcissists on the left just can’t be happy unless they are the center of attention and spoiling things for everyone else. All I can say is that the Secret Service and the local security detail probably treated these people a lot better than they deserved. They should have let the family members of those being honored smack them around a bit before loading them into the police vans…

Steve F   July 5th, 2008 - 12:26 pm

The more I see of these scum sucking LIBERALS the more I DETEST them!

jg   July 5th, 2008 - 12:36 pm

There is a time and a place for political protest.
Political rally – fair game. Special ceremony to welcome new citizens and celebrate our nation’s birthday – not acceptable. These “protesters” are more consumed with their own personal hatred of Bush than they are concerned with how they are viewed in the eyes of the world. If they lose sympathy and support for their cause, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Laary   July 5th, 2008 - 12:44 pm

Unbelievable how whacko liberal loons are. They have no respect for anyone. Bush haters, GET A LIFE.

Before Bush went into Iraq, there were more liberals calling for Saddam’s head then anyone else. Slick Willie, Hitlery, every democrat in congress, was screaming for us to get Saddam. Bush got congress approval, UN approval (which Slick Willie DIDN’T get before Kosovo), and the approval of every liberal in America.

Liberal pukes deserve no respect. If it was up to me, I would hang them up by their heels, just like terrorists do to our soldiers.

America – love it or get the hell out!!!

the Dude   July 5th, 2008 - 12:46 pm

Liberals have become so pathetic, embarrassing to themselves and their loony cause.

Tex Taylor   July 5th, 2008 - 12:54 pm

Pay no heed to the Bush haters, the Christian haters, anti-American sloths that sometimes publish on this board. The parrot the same meme everytime. These Hitler youth are consumed with hate – mostly of themselves only they’re too stupid to realize it. They are worth less than the dog excrement you would find in a typical backyard.

Let them protest…just make sure when they do, to step over them less the stench of their ilk remain on the bottom of your shoes.

I would tell everyone here the same as I tell my friends serving – they aren’t worth your time or your trouble. Laugh at them and move on. They amount to nothing and are more like flies at the 4th of July picnic; a nuisance. And when the time comes we have had enough, we’ll simply smash them on the end of the table and they will quickly be forgotten.

KWNashVegas   July 5th, 2008 - 12:58 pm

God Bless George Bush. He hasn’t done everything the way I think he should have but… he does know more about what’s going on than I do.

Obama is a stalking horse Marxist / Socialist and will totally ruin this country for 50 years if he gets in for 4 years and does even 1/2 of what he has promised.

Where are the lower gas prices Pelosi and the Democrats promised if elected in ‘06? Gas prices have rose nearly $2 a gallon since Jan of ‘06. What’s up with that? Oh yeah,…. they’ll just continue to blame it on Bush.

God Bless America. God Bless President Bush. God bless the American people who truly believe in the Constitution and our rights are endowed by our creator and not by our government.

Happy Independence Day weekend celebrations!

Rob   July 5th, 2008 - 1:03 pm

I see some Bush bashing and Obama supporters.

First, can someone please tell me what kind of (good) change Obama will bring? I mean really, he never even said it was good change. To change a country just to change it without even knowing the outcome is pretty ignorant. I guess that is a democrat for you.

Second, most of the economys downturn started after the idiot dems took control.

InformedVoter   July 5th, 2008 - 1:07 pm

Prior to Bush, Buchanan(15th) was the worst president in U.S History. His presidency lead to the greatest president, Abraham Lincoln. Why anyone would believe that Bush is a great leader must be Rip Van Winkle during the last 7 1/2 years.

Lets step away from the 9/11 and Iraq and focus on what he and his party has done to the United States. It isn’t liberals or conservatives who are disgusted with the Bush Administration. It is everyone.

29% Approval Rating for Bush Jr.
76% believe America is headed in wrong direction
78% believe America is worse than it was 5 years ago – highest since 1986 during Reagan’s Administration.
21% of Americans say the economy is in good shape – the lowest percentage recorded since October of 1992 when Bush Sr. was president

-Deregulation of energy, leading to speculation under legislation created by Rep. Gramm

-California’s state of emergency due to rolling blackouts created by false shortages generated by Enron. Former Gov. Gray went to Bush for assistance and he got the finger. All the while, Bush and Cheney were chummy with Ken Lay.

-Bankruptcy reform act that lead to the credit crisis. Act created hurdles in filing bankruptcy and allowed credit card issuers to raise APR to default rates based upon one late payment to any of the consumers OTHER creditors.

- No bid contracts for Haliburton, Blackwater, etc. While soldiers are getting electrocuted while taking showers.

-Hurricane Katrina where he and “do harm” administration did nothing after the hurricane leaving more than 2000 AMERICANS dead or missing. Almost the same amount who died in 9/11.

-$81 billion in destruction and New Orleans is still suffering 3 years later.

-Midwest Flooding also Bush Administration did nothing, until a week after the flooding gained national attention.

-Trillions of dollars in debt due to the war, leaving the infrastructure of the United States breaking down and falling apart. Veterans hospitals and care is a national disgrace. Active duty soldiers have had their life insurance policies reduced. Bush purposely gave credit to the new GI bill to McCain even though McCain voted against it.

- More Americans requested Food Stamps than any other time in our history since inception.

- Huge stock market crashes since the 1930s

- Dollar value dropping at an alarming rate.

So how exactly is only the sentiment of “liberal” Americans?

Doc   July 5th, 2008 - 1:08 pm

Awww, c’mon, Buddy – SMILE! Look at all you have to be thankful for!

Brian H   July 5th, 2008 - 1:12 pm

Liberals make me laugh! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Typical level of discourse you get from these loons..HAHAHA

Tubby is 100% CORRECT!

Joel   July 5th, 2008 - 1:12 pm

The funniest part about the whole clip is that these leftwing loons have been frothing at the mouth for years now, but Bush goes on not even letting it bother him, which absolutely burns liberals up when they’re ignored. The Secret Service has to remove them because liberals are well documented as being little Sara Jane Moore’s and Lynette “Squeeky” Fromme’s just waiting to pull the trigger.

Of course, liberals haven’t given reasonable people a reason to pay them any attention, so I can’t say that I blame Bush, or anyone, for marginalizing them and shoving them into a corner where they belong. Even the Democrat party puts them behind chain-linked fences in designated protest areas to keep them from destroying public and private property.

The person above who pointed out that if manbearpig (algore) had won the 2000 election and had done and said the same things Bush43 has done and said, that these same liberals who are opposed to him (and can be found both at Monticello and on this board) would have defended every action and utterance he made, is exactly right about them being hypocrites.

Tony Miller   July 5th, 2008 - 1:14 pm

To self-professed “InformedVoter” – you still don’t get it. You try to turn every speech, every article, every forum into a referendum on George Bush. Get over it! The discussion should be whether it’s apppropriate for a bunch of political protesters to interrupt a special ceremony and steal the spotlight from our newest citizens on a special day. It should be pretty clear by now that Lefties simply MUST have attention all the time…

c'est moi   July 5th, 2008 - 1:19 pm

I blame it all on poor potty training.

Ice Cream Man   July 5th, 2008 - 1:22 pm

What Bush is doing or where he is speaking doesn’t matter one bit to the foaming militants. If George Bush had addressed a gathering for National Ice Cream Day, rest assured that some wackjob would have run out with a banner reading ICECREAM=MURDER or something to that effect. These protesters are just psychiatric cases screaming for attention. Best to lock them up and give them their meds.

Sisto   July 5th, 2008 - 1:24 pm

God Bless Bush! Thats the Biggest joke since Bush invaded Iraq. He’s going to face murder charges when he leaves office and will live the rest of his life in prison. All the republicans should be held for aiding and abetting. Republican Clones are like sheep! Pathetic! Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave! If Jefferson was alive today he would be the first to persecute Bush for War Crimes and Torture! Freedom of speech is as bad as China’s freedom of speech. Hay You White House, How Sherod You Are! It will not last forever! BOOK HIM DONNO!!!! The Protesters are the Hero’s!

Sigmond   July 5th, 2008 - 1:24 pm

These Obama supporters once again demonstrate their disrespect of someone’s right to speak.

Cody   July 5th, 2008 - 1:29 pm

You people elect the government who authorizes the war and then you complain while still re-electing the same people to congress…

It is kind of like how you whine about supposed global warming and then consume everything you can pay for with visa or mastercard.

Your emotions are easy to manipulate.

Sisto   July 5th, 2008 - 1:31 pm

Hey You White House,How Sherod You Are!

Book Him Danno !!!!!!!

Doc   July 5th, 2008 - 1:35 pm

Sisso – Ha Ha Ha – your rants prove our points. Thanks!

ramrod   July 5th, 2008 - 1:36 pm

For Informedvoter- your twisted sense of this adminsitartion is quit telling of your political leanings. The one (most important) point you have neglected is that this country has not suffered one terrorist attack on our own soil since 9/11.
Sure there are issues that need to be addressed, like the energy shortages. Thanks to the dems and liberals not allowing energy companies to develope the necessary nuclear plants, drilling for oil, expanding the recovery of coal reserves, and blocking any attempt to expand our independence from foriegn oil. Leaves us the challenge to overcome these obsticles inspite of the Dems trying to destroy this nation from within. So the next time you go to fill your car up with gas paying $90 to $100 to do so. Thank the Dems and liberals for the effort of tearing down this great nation.

Blaze Hauser   July 5th, 2008 - 1:38 pm

I`d rather throw away my vote on Ralph Nader than the liars of both parties. John McCain is a hawk with a temper who feels force will solve any and all problems. Obama is just a composite created by the Man to lead the sheep to the slaughter. No one who`s gonna get elected will bring any real (or positive) change to this country. The republicans are greedy fools who believe in myths and let those myths lead their lives. Democrats are also pigheaded ideologues who fake the motions of progressive politics while accomplishing nothing. Both parties whine too much, both are full of egotists and cults of personality. All I see for this country is more pain and misery, security is an illusion folks, and when the time comes, nothing will save you.

Gene H   July 5th, 2008 - 1:41 pm

TO Sickntired;

What says more than any comment in your frantic writing is the fact that you have to re-write history (more like fabricate history) to make your point:

Bush DID get approval from congress and from the UN to go to BOTH wars to fight the terrorists.

Planes DID crash into the twin towers.

Steel DOES melt (do you think steel beams are natural formations?)

When big buildings fall on small buildings, the small buildings DO get fataly damaged.

Anyone who thought there weren’t toxic materials floating in the air ARE idiots and the first responders were NOT idiots. That is why they ARE HEROS, NOT VICTIMS.

The attack on the twin towers was NOT sponsored by Saudi Arabia, it WAS sponsored by terrorists.

Ben Ladin IS forced to live one of the most remote corners of the world, and WILL be dead if crawls out from under his rock.

ALL countries have their state secrets. Bush DID NOT invent national secrets.

Corporations ARE good. Without them, how many people would NOT have jobs.

And yes, there ARE conspiracy kooks out there – and you ARE a member of that club.

Scott 44   July 5th, 2008 - 1:51 pm

Wow, news just came out that 2 – 3 vans loaded with high explosives have been located within the boundaries of the US of A. The terrorist/owner is currently in prison and couldn’t detonate the radio controlled devices.
How many more of these “rolling bombs” are loose in Our Country?
Perhaps such a vehicle is parked on your block!

skip reader   July 5th, 2008 - 1:52 pm

stolen from Patrick Briley over at Newswithviews.com

The FBI and CIA station chief in the Philippines learned the dtails of the plans for the OKC bombing and plans to train hijacker pilots for a 9/11 style attack on the WTC, other US skyscrapers and DC federal buildings in January and February 1995.

The CIA FBI learned this information from CIA
surveillance of an Abu Sayeff terrorist cell meetings involving Iraqi operatives Khalid Mohammed his nephew Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Murad, Wali Khan, Philippino Ewin Angeles, American John Lebney, and Terry Nichols, and 5 Iraqi agents including a bomb expert.

The CIA and FBI also learned of this information
in debriefings from undercover Philippine Intelligence agent Edwin Angeles who was in the meetings. John Lebney was engaged in Chinese appliance sales and was known to the CIA. Further information was learned by FBI interrogation of fellow cell members Abdul Murad and Way Khan.
FBI agnets visited the Norman Flight school in 1999 after a visit by 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and told the owners that they were tracking
Atta in a terror plot involving airliners.

Bin Laden’s personal pilot had trained at the Norman flight school in 1996. The FBI was tracking hijacker pilots being trained in the US because the FBI and CIA had learned of the 9/11 plot by Khalid Mohammed starting in 1995. The FBI visited several flight schools in Phoenix and…

(remember those things when remembering Condi Rice fibbing and saying they never expected/suspected commercial airliners being crashed into buildings by terrorists

From Ron Paul’s, The Revolution a Manifesto:

” The war in Iraq was on of the most ill-considered, poorly planned, and just plain unnecessary military conflicts in American history, and I opposed it from the beginning. But the beginning I am speaking of was not 2002 or 2003. As early as 1997 and 1998, shortly after my return to Congress after a dozen years
back in my medical practice, I spoke out against
the actions of the Clinton Administration, which I believed was moving us once again toward war with Iraq. I believe the genesis of our later policy was being set at that time. Many of the same voices who demanded that the Clinton administration attack Iraq later demanded that the Bush administration attack Iraq, exploiting the tragedy of September 11 to bring about their long-standing desire to see an American invasion of that country. Any rationale would do: “weapons of mass destruction,” the wickedness
of Saddam (an issue that did not seem to keep many of these policymakers up at night in the 1980’s when they were supporting him), a Saddam-al Qaeda link, whtever. As long as their Middle Eastern Ambitions could be satisfied, it did not matter how the people were brought along….”

ACK   July 5th, 2008 - 1:58 pm

“Only Chumps support the Chimp.”

Which chimp are ya talkin about? LOL

Obama B Marxist   July 5th, 2008 - 1:59 pm

Good for you, KMPK. A handgun and concealed weapons permit is an idea who’s time has come. Mark my words, sooner or later these despicable treasonous seditious communis — er, excuse me —– “liberals/progressives” will have to be brutally dealt with in order to save this nation. This chaos can’t go on forever.

If I was at that ceremony, I would have kicked those loudmouthed liberals’ @$$e$. Sure, I’d probably be arrested, but it would be worth it. These stinking marxists aren’t used to retalliation for their little PR stunts. We need to get in their face and confront them physically if need be.

Dubya Says   July 5th, 2008 - 2:01 pm

But, but, but us white bread, republican, christian lovin’ zealots are just spreading the good word of the lord ya’ll! And that is that white is right, homosexuals are sinners, we won the war in Iraq, everyone should be driving a big gas guzzlin’ SUV and own a hand gun! It’s like I always say, if they ain’t like us, they are inferior, and if they ain’t with us, then lets kill’em! No matter what you homosexual lovin’ liberals say, we won’t be convinced otherwise. Intolerance, war mongering, homophobia, thats what we should be teachin’ our kids! There is no in between, you either love what I’ve said and are with me, or you need to be eliminated!!!!!!!!!!!! God Bless Amurica, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

kevin   July 5th, 2008 - 2:07 pm

sickntired is stupid, congress did authourize both conflicts we are engaged in. its your moronic liberal deletion of facts to justify your panties up your crack because you never got over the re-count

Tex Taylor   July 5th, 2008 - 2:09 pm

InformedVoter,

So you really think things are so bad? Since you’re informed, I have a few questions.

(1) The state gov’t of CA and MI are predominantly Dimocrat, controlled by Dimocrats, and have been for years. Both are on the verge of filing bankruptcy? Why?

(2) Trade speculation is global – exactly how do you propose to regulate traders throughout the world?

(3) Katrina was a disaster as are most things where gov’t intervenes (forgetting for a moment that New Orleans and the state of LA have been Dimocratically controlled politically since Huey Long). It is your candidate that proposes more gov’t as the answer to our nation’s problems. Please explain the disconnect and please give us examples of liberal economics that have led to the facilitation of successful economic policies the last 40 years…

(4) Full employment is considered when the unemployment rate drops below 4.5%-5%? It currently resides at 5.5%. Please explain how this is a bad economy and how it is worse than 16% prime interest rates, 21% mortgages, and 10% unemployment under the Carter Administration?

(5) Obama has suggested that he will remove the cap on FICA, thereby increasing corporate taxes approximately 13% on any wage above approximately 100K. In the same sentence, Obama adds that the shrinking of the middle class is due to real wages not keeping up with inflation. Please explain how increasing corporate taxes substantially will lead to an ensuing increase in real wages at corporate discretion?

(6) Do you believe in nationalizing oil companies vis-a-vis Hugo Chavez as has been suggested by your party?

(7) You party has proposed a windfall profit’s tax be levied against oil companies. However, history shows that the last time this was implemented prices actually rose and the American consumer’s gas was rationed. Please explain why you think this time would be successful when history suggests otherwise.

(8) What is the greatest accomplishment of the Dimocratic controlled Congress since the 2006 elections?

I could go on but I don’t find you terribly informed. I do you find you whiny, uninformed, and incredibly naive parroting the lib meme. I hope you have your talking points boilerplated to save time when you post.

You can blame your own pitiful existence on George Bush. But Obama can’t save you either and probably will make things worse. I suggest crawling in a hole and remaining there, sucking your thumb and drinking Maalox until you expire

kevin   July 5th, 2008 - 2:11 pm

hey sisto, bush will never go to jail you friggin moron. get over it, you lost the re-count! quit living in the past like all the rest of you brain dead democraps do. BUSH IS KING

Ann Marie James   July 5th, 2008 - 2:13 pm

Liberals have no class or morals! I welcome such outbursts as it shows the world how just rude and childish they are!

David   July 5th, 2008 - 2:15 pm

As a fairly recently naturalized American citizen, if any had the guts to ruin MY long awaited ceremony with such uncivil behavior, they would wish security could toss them out before I got to them first. How would you like it if I showed up at your kid’s wedding or graduation to prtoest you because I thought your thought/speech/actions repulsed me? Probably wouldn’t like it too much would you? Say what you want about Bush, I really couldn’t careless. But who does these uncivil, uncouth, selfish loudmouths think they are? And if your only defense is that your can cause a ruckus at a swearing in ceremony because Bush is Sooooo bad, they I truly feel sorry for you. You can protest all you want, as it’s your right, but for once, you lefties really need to think about others besides yourself.

Matt   July 5th, 2008 - 2:17 pm

Sickntired – He invaded two countries because of 9/11. Don’t you remember? By the way, a President has the authority to wage war if provoked (see 9/11 comment earlier). A Supreme Court Case in 1863, Prize Casso, set the precedent for this, not Bush despite your best wishes. Lincoln used the National Guard to blockaded (an act of war) the South without approval from Congress. The Supreme Court ruled Lincoln could do this because he was thrust into war. Last time I checked September 10th was just a normal day, Bush wasn’t attacking anybody. Hasn’t Congress funded this war anyway? Didn’t they vote to go into Afganistan? Is this not consent? Finally, quit talking in such vague terminology. Give me something with substance. I am tired of people attacking others but not backing it up with facts. Hoped you learned something today!

Alternative Energies   July 5th, 2008 - 2:20 pm

I’m all for a war with a Iran. A first strike with a nuke would be excellent.

As long as their isn’t a draft (I really don’t want to road march in highly radioactive areas)

I think those Bush, McCain, Obama and Hillary bumper stickers need to pay 12 bucks a gallon
for fuel.

but I just need a little bit more time to delve more deeply into solar energy and wind power and also by some supplies in that up an coming in a much bigger way industry.

I don’t get angry at boob tube pundits and the talking head Globalist politicians that are destroying this country.

I don’t get mad I just buy more silver. They hate silver. It proved impossible for them to erect their tollbooths on it during the 1800’s

Jerry from Tampa   July 5th, 2008 - 2:23 pm

It’s true this fine country grants these mutants the right to trash our country. Is’s a shame the other decent patriots, who they offend with this Bush hating nonsense, don’t have the right to demonstrate their disgust and hang them up to dry right there. The biggest threat to this Nation other than Islamic fundamentalism is this far left crazy element. When we are next attacted by the Islamic plague and these clowns get in the way of the rest of us doing what must then be done, then they will have to be delt with just like the Islamic dirt bags.

Obama   July 5th, 2008 - 2:24 pm

Socialists are mental ..Look at ted kennedy ..he was mental in the head for a big reason ..it s the same with all of them ..

Blood testing and complete 3d brain scanning is one way to sort the mental defects from the bipolar queers off meds

cliffwhobreathes   July 5th, 2008 - 2:26 pm

Bush is NOT a war criminal.

America is NOT responsible for global atrocities.

The U.S. has done more to help and aide the globe than hurt it.

Truth is there are very bad people on this planet who seek to oppress those who cannot stand up for themselves. NO ONE more than the U.S.A. has done so much to help those who cannot, otherwise, help themselves.

History will vindicate G.W. Bush and the United States.

If we were such a horrible place with such a horrible leader, our immigration numbers wouldn’t be so high. People globally understand this is a much better place, though not perfect, than where they grew up.

bush = war criminal   July 5th, 2008 - 2:31 pm

wtfwtc7.com

Open your eyes.

its_Chet   July 5th, 2008 - 2:33 pm

My impression of the majority of the posts so far critical of Bush and/or supportive of the behavior of the loudmouth jerks who disrupted the peace at this event under hypocritical pretenses:

“Down with God. Flip Him the middle finger and demand that His wrath be pulled down on us to speed up the ongoing destruction of this country because a strong and free American is unacceptable. Urinate on the flag. Utilize freedom of speech to claim you’ve been robbed of it. Abuse freedom of speech and disturb the peace and then complain about being ’silenced’. If you don’t hate Bush, hate God, hate Christians, love pornography, love vulgar language, love recreational drugs, love gang violence in your city, love tax payer funded blasphemy and obscenity, then you are not a true American and you do not deserve any rights at all. Bush lied for a war for oil, despite the fact that EVERYONE, including democrats such as Al Gore and John Kerry said that Saddam Hussein should be dealt with and EVERYONE agreed going into the war that the intelligence we had was reliable. The fact that we have gotten on the bad side of countries that have always jealously hated us for our success, or had vested financial interests in the status quo in Iraq when Saddam was still running it, is nothing more than proof that America is inherently evil and deserves to be destroyed. Even though al Qaida and the Taliban were in Afghanistan, and our attack and ongoing military operations there are what any sane person would consider a justified reaction to 9/11, we liberals maintain that it is an act of aggression for which all conservatives in America should be held responsible under a war crimes tribunal. We liberals would be perfectly happy with the result being that they all go to jail and we get to confiscate all their property, and raise their children to be dung eating, God hating, America destroying, gay, drug addicted animals. We want condom dispensers in every grammar school restroom. We want government funded, secret abortions for any girl biologically able to get pregnant, and no parental notification. We want Christianity outlawed, and forced indoctrination of children into accepting as legitimate and good such concepts as homosexuality, adoption by gay couples, gay marriage, legalization of recreational drugs, abortion on demand, and no prison time for violent criminals unless they have ties to republican campaigns or corporate scandals. We want more government programs for minorities and wider media promotion of propaganda stating that they cannot possibly ever survive in racist America without democrat sponsorship and that they must vote democrat if they don’t want republicans to round them up in the middle of the night and haul them off to liquidiation camps. And we demand the right to spew this crap at any time, in any place, without respect or courteousy for the public’s right to peaceful assembly, and any response to our hate speech other than hypnotized approval and successfully indoctrinated zombies is a violation of our rights!”

And now that I’ve summed all that up for you, hopefully we can all remember why it’s important to have social conservatives running this country. If not, you’ll see in four to eight years just how badly liberals want to destroy this country, and you’ll be begging for a good and decent person to get elected to represent you in Washington, and to clean up the pollution that threatens us most, this demonic bohemian counter-culture that has severely damaged America and seeks to finish the job.

Dan   July 5th, 2008 - 2:35 pm

They ought to take these ignorant assholes and shoot them. If they hate America so much why don’t the do us all a favor and get the hell out?

conservative   July 5th, 2008 - 2:36 pm

Yeah, Socialists are really mental. What a fruity thing for GW Bush to have have done by bringing back UNESCO for our public schools when Reagan worked so hard to get us out of it. Reagan promised to get rid of the Dept of Education and failed but he did get us out of that blatant communist indoctrination program, but thanks mental socialist Bush!

Susan I   July 5th, 2008 - 2:51 pm

Code Pink is a great example of the liberal left loons. Disrepectful, close minded and wrong. I would love to be somewhere when they started protesting. I would probably end up arrested myself, but they would get an ass whoopin before I did.
And I’m sick of the Bush lied, people died. You can repeat it as much as you want. I guess past presidents should be dug up and put on trial for getting people killed in past wars. Do like your big liberal collaborator, Move On!
And if you think that Osama Hussein Obama (OHO) will be your messiah, WAKE UP! He’ll “change” things allright. He’ll take it (your change) away to pay for all the entitlements he wants. But then again, he is just pandering, which the MSM can’t bring themselves to admit to.

Thomas Jefferson   July 5th, 2008 - 2:56 pm

I was and remain a Christian. The fact that I didn’t agree with any of the organized religions of my day enough to officially join any of them is irrelevant. If you think I’m kidding, read the Declaration of Independence. How can I be more clear about all of this?

I am rolling in my grave these days, but it’s because of all the God hating heathens and pagans who insist on ritual invocation of my name to support their causes. I humbly ask that my name not be hijacked by immoral hedonists looking to excuse their debauchery while simultaneously denigrating the people I have more in common with then them, contrary to their assumptions and delusions.

And furthermore, if I, in my time, had been able to see your day, and how far this country would fall into disgrace, how wicked and perverse its citizens would become, I and my peers would have outlawed much of the behavior so many of you have come to believe you have a right to inflict upon your neighbors. We never in our worst nightmares imagined the spiritual pollution that now reaches from coast to coast and is slowly and steadily destroying this country I and my band of brothers fought and died to create.

I am a servant of God, and helped to create the United States of America in His honor. And that honor has been trampled and soiled by disgusting perverts and foul mouthed villains, who insist on claiming my approval of their vile deeds and words.

I call upon all such persons to cease this humiliation of myself and the other founders, or we shall hold you responsible before a Heavenly tribunal, so help me God.

Thomas Jefferson

God   July 5th, 2008 - 2:59 pm

“History will vindicate G.W. Bush and the United States.”

I am God and have ultimate foresight. You, sir, are wrong. And keep up posts like these and I will put you on the fast track to Hell.

Sincerely,
Your Lord and Savior

P.S. The angels are laughing and milk just squirted out of Jesus’ nose.

orwellian   July 5th, 2008 - 3:00 pm

http://www.bullnotbull.com/bull/node/71#comments

The protesters were doing all they could to be heard by the fascist bush regime. It may have seemed like very little, but it is all the miserable subjects can do.

Just a little squeak, but when The People all together squeak, it will be a roar.

This is disgusting political posturing, mugging for the camera, a photo op. American independence does not exist anymore we are losing civil rights, being taxed and scammed into bankruptcy by the corrupt plutocracy, the fascist regime.

Bloody oil wars, to profit the oil barrons, of which bush is one.

read: http://www.bullnotbull.com/bull/node/71#comments
http://www.bullnotbull.com/bull/node/71#comments

dingbat ranter but armed with silver and guns   July 5th, 2008 - 3:08 pm

This winter after thousands of fixed incomers in New England and elsewhere have frozen to death for lack of heating oil and food and the living have finally figured out that it’s not just big oil but the government Republicratic Pentagonish
government that devalued our dollar and destroyed
our manufacturing by things like NAFTA which is the opposite of free trade (sorry but a huge manual on rules and regs that tie Americans hand behind their back isn’t free trad) That in their incestuous orgies with enviromentalist groups their sponsors in big corporations and insurance/banking have made it impossible for us hosts of parasite to work merely 40 plus hours in our mostly service sectors job and still be able to eat.

That those of who long ago stopped trusting the bastards who s*** stinks just as bad as the next guy, that bought gold and silver when gold and silver was purposely kept cheap to keep a lid on the failing fiat monetary system. That bought beans and bullets instead of putting it in 401ks.
IN OTHER WORDS the survivors of the coming Great Depression times a thousand will never again take politicians seriously enough to let them rule over us. Never trust the idea that a bank could be legit/moral and not capable of crookedness. Not even a local police dept, NO reason for one either because people finally figured out that it’s better to live by a few basic principles of morality (don unto others as you would want done unto YOU) that IT’s ALOT cheaper and less aggravationg to be SELF GOVERNING, armed and polite than to trust in STATE or government for ANYTHING!!!

that will enter into a free country as free as it could be since they mistakenly tossed out the Articles of Confederations many moons ago.

That is my HOPE and it doesn’t require me to VOTE
and get my name on another list for Jury Duty summons.

Platapus   July 5th, 2008 - 3:12 pm

Code Pink should be out interupting Obama now that he has changed his tune about re-assesing how many troops to pull out of Iraq if he is elected. They should also be after congress for their continued support of the Iraq war. How will they protest our involvement with Isreal when they atack Iran? Did any of them protest or ask for impeachment of Bill Clinton when he was sending troops to Bosnia or bombing aspirin facturies? Pick and choose, just don’t be a hypocrite.

Electric Socrates   July 5th, 2008 - 3:12 pm

Yeah baby! That’s what democracy is all about! Good going!

R.J.   July 5th, 2008 - 3:13 pm

Shrub=Hitler
neoCONs=nazis
And they are all so dumb they destroy their own country with their moronic ideology.

Frank Urben   July 5th, 2008 - 3:16 pm

The ceremony being held is the swearing in of new immigrant (need i say legal) citizens of the US. Basic journalism the BBc seems to have overlooked in their glee.

dgleon   July 5th, 2008 - 3:18 pm

How embarassing.

orwellian   July 5th, 2008 - 3:19 pm

July 4 is the spirit of resistance to the tyranny of the last king jorge.

Right on Americans that’s the spirit! Stick it to the man. Remember freedom is not free, it needs to be guarded, and it is American tradition for citizens to stand up to a corrupt and oppressive ruler. That is July 4 is all about.

The People vs the royalists. Right here. right now.

http://www.themoneymasters.com/
http//:www.spirituallysmart.com
http://www.freedomtofascism.com

Obama B Marxist   July 5th, 2008 - 3:29 pm

Dan wrote on July 5th, 2008 @ 2:35 pm:

>They ought to take these ignorant assholes and >shoot them. If they hate America so much why >don’t the do us all a favor and get the hell out?

I agree, it’s definitely time for action against these marxist pus bags. The America haters will not do us all a favor and get the hell out, for they are very close to realizing their twisted dream of an atheistic multicultural marxist America via their death-grip control of our government, “news” media, TV, schools, and even many churches. Voting won’t work any more, the liberal infestation is too great. Apparently more effective methods are needed to remove this deadly marxist infestation from America.

MDPatriot   July 5th, 2008 - 3:30 pm

These are professional protestors that go from media opportunity to media opportunity. All the BBC would have to do is review prior protest opportunities and see that the faces are all the same. These gas bags have had absolutely no impact on this President and his policies only they’re too ignorant to even see that. What I find offensive isn’t their antics but that they are disturbing people who have gathered at these media opportunities because they want to be there. These selfish pigs interrupted a swearing-in of new U.S. citizens. Individuals that have experienced great personal sacrifice to congregate there, to become U.S. citizens. Perhaps these protestors will take the opportunity to move to the countries these citizens vacated. I certainly won’t miss them.

Patriot   July 5th, 2008 - 3:32 pm

I do not like Bush either.

However, I am an AMERICAN PATRIOT. What is it? It is a person who respects the Office of the President and the symbols of AMERICAN.

There is a time and a place for everything. That was not it.

Can we strip these people of their citizenship and place them in the middle of China and say enjoy your freedom now!?!

Steve   July 5th, 2008 - 3:35 pm

Sickentired: your screen name is certainly
appropiate, won’t waste my time or many words
on you, but I agree, you are sick, and tired
you need a long rest and help to regain a
grip on sanity

Post American   July 5th, 2008 - 3:41 pm

George WMD Bush is a Tyrant, who should be “brought to justice”! Land of the free, homeland of the brave. What a nation of cowards.

The Real God   July 5th, 2008 - 3:44 pm

Liberals teach hate and intolerance.

GOD HAS FORSAKEN LIBERALS.

GOD *** LIBERALS!!!!!!!

Jack Kennedy   July 5th, 2008 - 3:50 pm

Fact is that liberals or wussies and Real Americans have guns.

Ergo, liberals are an endangered species targeted for ultimate destruction.

When the **** hits the fan and the muslims take their shot at america takeover, the Real Americans will take care of business after the liberals are offed as target practice for the muslims.

Enjoy wussy liberals – code pink and other subversives will be first and foremost on the hit parage.

ENJOY – THE REAL AMERICANS WILL!!!!

Lex Luther   July 5th, 2008 - 3:56 pm

Hell, the marxists and commies ought to be all for what we’re doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We’re overextending ourselves by going into Pakistan. Our supply lines getting bigger and bigger and attacked more frequently. Air Support becomes a thing to depend on more and more which you should never put your eggs in one basket. Meanwhile were’ ticking off more and more peoples creating more and more enemies that we did not have before.

Thanks Ted Kennedy for the lax immigration laws that has allowed for the trashing and overpopulating of the US. Thanks Prezidente Bush and all the other Republicrats
for taking it a hundred steps further with not only turning your back to the invasion of our country by millions but supporting it with American Citizen Tax dollars at every opportunity.

We’re setting ourselves up for another HUGE DEEEK SLAP like the 911 attacks themselves where our billions of dollars a year for military/NORAD and five star Hotel Luxury pigs in the CIA and NSA failed to stop a few loonbags with cheap boxcutters.

Meanwhile our dollar has already jumped off the cliff into the abyss. Our nation takes in 180,000 legal and illegal aliens a month mostly from third world countries that are totally alien to our western values and not only will not assimilate but will actively work to shove t heir culture and ways down our throats THUS throwing us into perpetual warfare in a once peaceful United States.

JCIll   July 5th, 2008 - 3:59 pm

How many times have we read about conservatives trying to silence a liberal. Freedom of speech seems to only apply to ignorant anti-American liberals. This is an absolutely disgusting show of nauseating hate, held by mostly people who no nothing of history and care nothing about truth. They have a righ to their speech, but not necessarily to be heard by everyone. I think they should be allowed as much freedom of speech as they want in a rat-infested jail cell.

EvilRoy   July 5th, 2008 - 4:03 pm

To all those who scream “fascism” every time you hear GWB’s name, I have a question; What are you still doing here? If you truly believe that America is a “plutocracy”, that Bush is a “tyrant”, that America is responsible for evils perpetrated all over the globe to line the pockets of “oil barons” (lol) then why don’t you leave? Why don’t you move to some other, superior country, like the Netherlands, or England, or France? Better yet, why not move to a REAL worker’s paradise like China, or Cuba, or N. Korea?

You ARE allowed to leave the US anytime you want, you know? Unlike many of the countries that are TRULY fascists / totalitarian regimes, you can leave and go to find your Utopia.

Of course, you never seem to have anything bad to say about any of those other countries, though do you? No instead, you decide to reserve your venom and your hatred for America, while at the same time offering you own personal approval and solidarity to the REAL bad guys every time you open your snivelling pie-holes to talk America down.

Every time a ferry sinks, or there’s a flood, or a typhoon, or some crazed warlord starts slaughtering infants, the US is ALWAYS the one to clean up the mess–yet you spoiled, conspiracy-addled morons decide that WE’RE the problem. Unbelievable.

As far as you losing you civil liberties, I challenge any of you to give me one verifiable example of an American citizen being deprived of his civil rights by the federal gov’t.

Go on, dazzle me.

jack   July 5th, 2008 - 4:09 pm

I attended the ceremony. There were over three thousand people there and five or six hecklers. Do the math. The hecklers were lucky that security was there to protect and remove them because the crowd would not have been so gentle.
The ceremony was a beautiful celebration of America on July 4th. The speech was inspiring and smooth…President Bush is well respected among the people because he’s a good man. This was a ceremony for immigrants to be welcomed into our nation as citizens and to enjoy the liberty and freedom we usually take for granted. We should take a moment to be grateful and respect our country. One of the hecklers was shouting “police state, police state”, if that were true she’d be protesting Saint Peter at the pearly gates today. Thank you America.

Geo Lincoln   July 5th, 2008 - 4:11 pm

It is OK to protest in a protest zone. It is not OK to protest at a Speech by The President.
It is OK to protest at a protest rally. It is not OK to protest during a 4th of July celbration, a celbration which celbrates our Freedom.
We have the Fredom of Speach, which means we cannot be foreced to speak Mexican. We have the Freedom To Own Guns and Use Them. We have the Freedom to Prosecute Criminals. We have the Freedom to buy anything we can afford or have enough Credit for. We have the Freedom to Vote. We have the Freedom to become Millionaires and even Billionaires if we work hard enough. We have the freedom to Listen to whatever radio station or watch any TV station we want without the government Censoring us.

No other counrty has such great freedom! If these protestors don’t like it here they can go to Guantanamo althoug that is too good for them. Ththe prisoners there haave all gained weight and are healthier and happier then they were in their Muslim Countries. Most of them have become Christians. So that is too good for the protestors, we should send them to China or Saudi Arabia.

BlueMax372   July 5th, 2008 - 4:13 pm

Hecklers schmecklers. They’re nothing more nor less than neo-communist Obama supporters. While we still have a chance, perhaps we can get a constitutional amendment that will give us freedom from politically-correct rectal pores.

you have Rev Wright we have David Duke   July 5th, 2008 - 4:14 pm

why would the commies in the left want to leave AmeriKa when Bush and Congress our allowing Millions of Marxists to enter our country illegally? 15,000 MS 13 gangbangers operating in the CONUS and that’s the evil that we know about. The liberal left rather than move to a worker’s paradise in China ought to move to New Mexico or California and help with the arms/explosive shipments that will support the Brown Berets and other paramilitary units.

Katarina   July 5th, 2008 - 4:16 pm

My my my…how nice to see the hateful liberals don’t take a vacation day on the birthday of this wonderful country. Why would they? They seem to hate this country more than anything, well, except maybe George Bush. Imagine their surprise when history will treat President Bush VERY kindly!!!

I have a bit of advice for the America-hating libs…..LEAVE!!! Nobody is holding you here. As a matter of fact, you would be doing us real Americans a favor if you left!! If this country is so bad, and Bush is a facist, maybe you should move to a more favorable place, like say, Iran. You and the mental midget can sit around the table and share storeis of why you hate America. Please…just pack up your Kool-aid and leave, and take all the Code Pinko hags with you!!!!

I almost pity these leftist fools…what will they do when Bush is gone? Sure, they’ll still blame him for every pimple on their butts, but sooner or later, it won’t work. Ah, Bush Derangement Syndrome….what a concept!!!

JerryG1   July 5th, 2008 - 4:18 pm

July 4, 1776, courageous American patriots told King George of England “No More!”

July 4, 2008, courageous American patriots told King George of America “No More!”

Nemo Tenetur   July 5th, 2008 - 4:34 pm

EvilRoy, you want “one verifiable example of an American citizen being deprived of his civil rights by the federal gov’t.”

Simple: Jose Padilla, an American-born citizen who was held without trial in a military prison for three-and-a-half years as an “enemy combatant.” The Constitution guarantees a speedy trial. He did not get it. Nor was he allowed access to a lawyer for nearly three years.

Without getting into the merits of the charges against him — the one he was arrested for was dropped — there is no question that he was an American citizen who was denied basic civil liberties.

That’s just for starters. You may agree with the denial of civil liberties — for him or for others. You may think the Constitution is too liberal. Many Americans do, But if you think civil liberties are important, you need to find out where they are bing denied (there are thousands of examples in addition to the blatant one above) and then either do something about it or be complacent. It’s your choice.

there were a few American who tried to stop the coming disaster   July 5th, 2008 - 4:36 pm

Isn’t all swell and good that Prezidente Bush took the time to make pretty speech for immigrants that are here mostly thanks to the actions of the liberal intern killer Ted Kennedy.

That the same deliverer of a pretty speech
(a president is really nothing more than a few
speech wirters and make up artists)
condemned those heroic Minuteman who sacrificed their own time and money and literally put their
lives in danger by patrolling our borders and helping INS round up Illegal Aliens who have been trashing private ranches even breaking into homes down in our border states.

Americans don’t currently have a president and mostly don’t have representatives in House and Senate either. NOPE the lobbyists have those
we just have Sheet out of luck.

mike   July 5th, 2008 - 4:40 pm

man I can’t wait to heckle OBAMA ! man its gonna be fun……………………

Bakyard Experimenter   July 5th, 2008 - 4:49 pm

I like to see us try something different this next Speech Writer/makeup artist election (or Presidential election for you lemmings)

Instead of announcing the winners
we’ll let it go anonymous

someone from the media will relay State of the Unions and other talk moments to the people.

People will have to guess who said it.

I’ll betyou that everyone, happy liberals and disgruntled neocons will THINK that Obama had won the election BUT in fact it will have been John McCAIN.

I’d put all my silver coins and the lint on line
in a bet that I’m right.

Johnny !   July 5th, 2008 - 4:50 pm

Is it just me, or do liberals always seem to show themselves up as having no class? This was neither the the place nor the method in which to “protest.” Talk about bad form.

Not to mention which, how is it that these people always manage to come across as deranged, ranting and raving mental patients? If you’re going to exercise freedom of speech, do it with a little class and a little aplomb. Then at least maybe you won’t look and sound like a barking mongrel.

Jim   July 5th, 2008 - 4:52 pm

What is unfortunate is that these protesters probably ruined what should have been a very happy and memorable day for the new citizens who were sworn in. The protesters are selfish, selfish people with nothing better to do with their time.

chucj   July 5th, 2008 - 5:00 pm

Just once I would love to see another person in the audience bash one of these “protesters” on the face with a baseball bat.

Airwick   July 5th, 2008 - 5:05 pm

You folks truly are amazing. Those on the Left hate Bush so much that it clouds their judgment and sense of common decency and decorum. Sure…you are allowed to protest but showing up and disrupting a ceremony that a large number of people have been anticipating proudly is just plain bad manners. Find a more appropriate venue—this one makes you look mean spirited and stupid.

Those of you on the Right are no better. The “if they don’t like our country and its freedoms, then shoot them, strip them of their citizenship, beat them up, Gitmotize them, or any combination thereof” crowd is hardly “American”. Freedom means you are free to express yourself and act like a dope. What are these “freedoms” that al-Qaeda supposed hates so much they would attack us on 9-11? If you deny people the right to express themselves, you are doing bin Laden’s bidding.

Some of you consider yourselves “patriots” if you reject a culture that you see as being polluted by “Liberal” ideals such promiscuity, pornography, divorce, abortion, and open homosexuality. Is this a prerequisite to being a “true” American?

trojan80   July 5th, 2008 - 5:10 pm

I’m never surprised when these LIBERALS protests. But its funny how Bush doesn’t seem to mind, they only get booted when they start to RUIN the ceremonies. I don’t see how Bush is a dictator.

You know what else liberals… If Bush lied then so did your Pelosis and Reids. They saw the SAME information that Bush saw. They APPROVED the war in Iraq and Afghanistan based on the SAME intelligence reports that Bush got. Tenent told Bush it was a slam dunk.

Liberals have hated Bush from day one. It had nothing to do with Iraq or anything else. From day one he was hated by the left. Let me reiterate, DAY 1.
Why?

Maybe you’re all upset that he’s an Ivy League rich kid that never bought in on the leftie culture, like most liberals do. Or like Al Gore and Kerry did. I guess he broke some code and from Day 1 he’s been hated.

In 10-20 years time, history will look on the past 8 years and Bush with a different light. Then we’ll know how much he did to protect us, how much he did for the economy, until some people decided it was time to buy home they could never afford.
Don’t blame Bush for things he never did wrong.

Look at me ranting like liberal.

Christi   July 5th, 2008 - 5:10 pm

WOW! These folks are highly intelligent. They are really showing the BBC audience how great the people in this country have it together. I am embarrassed. I know free speech is a right but ignorance and disrespect should be crime.

lots of DOD and civilian living high off the feed trough at your expense   July 5th, 2008 - 5:41 pm

I’m wondering if all the pro Bush posters are just five or so CIA agents hanging out in the luxury five star Hotel you know the four or five hundred bucks a night digs in Milan with the ten dollar cokes at the bars. Hanging out and supporting Bush while the maids make the Turkish baths ready for them again.

Ringing up tabs of hundreds of thousands of dollars all to put some Egyptian loser onboard a a government rented lear jet owned by some baseball team owner. Not a care in the World about the social security stamped losers that will pay for it in the end.

Eddie   July 5th, 2008 - 5:51 pm

“I’m wondering if all the pro Bush posters are just five or so CIA agents hanging out in the luxury five star Hotel” – typical narcissistic paranoia of the left, as if the moonbats represent the people, and anyone objecting to their escapades must be some secret Bush operatives. You need to get over our drug-induced psychoses, libbies. Sure there are die-hard Bush supporters posting here, but if you bothered to think about what people were posting here, it wasn’t predominantly pro-Bush. That is being expressed here is an overall consensus of outrage and digust over the rude, outrageous behavior of a bunch of pathetic perennial attention-whores, who robbed several dozen new citizens of their special day. Sorry you’re so caught up in your mindset of us-against-them to understand what’s apparenty clear to everyone else.

Liberty is a Liberal Value   July 5th, 2008 - 5:51 pm

I’m amazed how many people still support this complete and utter failure of a president. He has not accomplished one positive thing in 7 years.

virg   July 5th, 2008 - 5:58 pm

wow!!! just when i thought that America couldn’t get any dumber, i read comments by people like sickntired.
what conservatives must realize is that liberals are the enemy. liberals want to destroy this country and replace the government with socialism. they all believe that the only problem with socialism’s failures is they (the libs) could do it better than the soviets.
and what liberals must realize is that the good citizens of this country have guns. it doesn’t matter that the libs try to take away our votes, our individual rights, our freedom, our hard earned wages, or even that they have perverted the supreme court for their pleasures….the good citizens of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA have guns.

Dan   July 5th, 2008 - 5:59 pm

They’ve all been drinking the ‘Time for Change’ Kool Aid. Bush was tagged with Neo-Con’s. Obama will have his NEO-COM’s.

Tom   July 5th, 2008 - 6:10 pm

The only way George Bush could’ve protected the borders the way some say he should have or responded to Hurricane Katrina the way he apparently should have would have been to set up a federal government police state in places like Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana. Imagine the complaining if he had done that. Yes, he should put up a fence and close the borders but the governors and local officials in those states are responsible in the meantime. Mr. Chocolate City should be in jail for the rotten job he has done..instead, the brain deads in that city re-elected him. And that transvestite governor of Arizona starts acting like it’s doing it’s job when it realizes it needs to get re-elected. And the bufoons in that crime ridden dump consider their governor to be one of the best. What a joke!!

Comparison Contrast   July 5th, 2008 - 6:27 pm

whilte they starved and froze at Valley Forge yester yonder

Today the Air Force couldn’t get by without
that sofa and armchair worth $24,000.00
that $2,200 designer table and that executive
pillow at $1800.00

While we had to something so low as borrow from
the French

Air Force units in Southwest Asia spent $432 on a genie lamp, $51,000 on cappuccino makers, $1,000.00 on a nacho cheese warmer.

$3,395 on a sumo wrestling suit $5,000.00 for
cowboy hats $10,000.00 for Halloween decorations $36,000.00 on Palm Pilots, $276,000.00 for digital cameras and $50,000
on a bingo console. AND $ 4,600.00 to buy beach sand for an air base in the United Arab Emirates surrounded by little else but sand.

In fact, the interminable war in Iraq has markedly exacerbated the Pentagon’s already wild spending tendencies. By 2004, the GAO was reporting that billions of dollars were being wasted in Iraq. A significant percentage of this money was squandered by Hallibuton-the energy and base building giant once headed by former Pentagon chief, and later vice president, Dick Cheney. In 2005, the Defense Contract Audit Agency found Halliburton had reaped $442 million
in charge that were “unsupported” by documentation to justify the cost. The DCAA also found purchases to rival the Reagan years, including: “$152,000 in ‘movie library costs,’
a $1.5 million tailoring bill that auditors deemed higher than reasonable, more than $560,000
worth of heavy equipment that was considered unnecessary, and two multimillion dollartransporation bills that appeared to overlap.” Similarly, in 2007 it came to light that during the previous year the Pentagon paid
another defense contractor “998,798 in transporation costs for shipping two 190cent washers.” this was in addition to, according to the Washington Post, a “2004 order for a single $8.75 elbow piple that was shipped for $445,640
a #10.99 machine thread plug that was shipped for
$492,096 and six machikne screw worth a totla of $59.94 were shipped at a cost of $403,463,” in 2005.

point being that lots of hands are in the tax payer created WAR PIE that takes labor and resources out of the private sector and into the dumps of Iraq or Afghanistan and that all a President has to do to keep support is ensure that the Big and unaccountable Golf and FEED Trough at the Pentagon gets filled for the blowed dried perfumed pigs year in and year out.

you can find out more about this uncontrolled spending and the incesuous relationship of our Pentagon and Hollywood and our Universities
by getting the book, THE COMPLEX: How The Military Invades Our Everyday Lives by Nick Turse.

allen antrim   July 5th, 2008 - 6:44 pm

If Europe hates America then America is doing something right even if in a way it is wrong. The atomic missiles that Saddam was getting ready (1st war-built by those bastions of freedom S. Africa and I believe Argentina–Reactors courtesy of France or and Russia) would have reached Paris–yes, the stupid presidents that we have had (Europe’s idol B. Clinton included)spent our money and our soldiers to once again protect Europe. Who cares about Paris, its should be their problem to protect themselves with their own money and people–when will this country (USA) realize we left Europe over 200 years ago.

2 War Vet   July 5th, 2008 - 6:49 pm

My brother has been on me about joining the NRA. I have always resisted but after doing some research and knowing that the money I spend on joining the NRA ($35) will go to support conservative causes and because a black man recently said in one the “rap” articles in the news “we will be smoking your cigars, living in your house and spending your money (speaking of white men). We are already sleeping with your ho’s”. This was in an article about a rally for Baraks O’bobmer. I agree with the poster who says Hillary or McCain.

2 War Vet   July 5th, 2008 - 6:53 pm

My brother has been on me about joining the NRA. I have always resisted but after doing some research and knowing that the money I spend on joining the NRA ($35) will go to support conservative causes and because a black man recently said in one the “rap” articles in the news “we will be smoking your cigars, living in your house and spending your money (speaking of white men). We are already sleeping with your ho’s”. I agree with post who says Hillary or McCain.

Joseph Sandberg   July 5th, 2008 - 6:55 pm

It’s sad that these protestors have to be rude and interupt the service. I’m all for free speech, but that doesn’t make it okay to be an ass. These new citizens of the country are looking forward to their induction service and don’t need to hear wacko “war criminal / bush caused 9-11″ fringe conspiracy theories screamed at them. There is a time and place to be kooky or rude, and that wasn’t the place.

Sailor Sam   July 5th, 2008 - 7:03 pm

I said earlier that this is the first time I ever had the urge to join NRA. From one of the new posts, and the tone of 90% of the posters, I am not alone. I am not an advocate of violence but firmly believe that my to self defense is inalienable and I will be sending my check in Monday (I didn’t realize it cost so little $35.00). I hope the tone of the posters is reflected in the voting booth. This is the only way decent people have left to survive. I will parrot the 2 War Vet comment,go Hillary/McCain

Mo Debris   July 5th, 2008 - 7:40 pm

When the Leader speaks we must obey his words no matter what the cost at every and all times. This must be understood in order to enjoy the freedoms the Leader bestows upon us from sea to shining sea!

I love my country and I love and obey my Leader.

Jeff   July 5th, 2008 - 7:43 pm

Those hecklers are a bunch of loners on socal security with nothing better to do- Or so it seems to me.

Siobhra DeWar   July 5th, 2008 - 7:48 pm

I do believe that the Democrats are right in thinking Bush was the worse President this country has ever had. The part that we have to wonder about is that with a president as bad as Bush why can’t the Democrats find someone better? Gore, Kerry, Dean, Edwards, Hillery and now Obama and still no one better than Bush.

Bob   July 5th, 2008 - 7:50 pm

What do you call a socialist weirdo who failed the bar exam three times , killed a women (or 2) while drunk , claims global warming will kill us all ..and has a terminal brain tumor the size of a grape fruit ?

That’s right ..the women yelling at bush in the video .

Dead-Time   July 5th, 2008 - 7:56 pm

They should have tazerd those pricks, that was a ceremony for other people but the communist progressives seem to think we all need to hear them when ever they have a gaseous bowl movement that spews from the cowardly pie holes.

I think the normal people at these meetings should starting beating liberals who feel the need to violate something this sacred.

Can we please just have a civil war now and get rid of all the liberals?

Nick   July 5th, 2008 - 7:56 pm

$2.42

That’s what the price of gas would be now had Bush not mislead us into war. Why? Having to borrow all of the money to go to war from the Chinese has devalued our money 41 percent. That ten dollar bill in your wallet is now only worth $5.90 of the full ten dollars worth it bought you in 2001. Gas is 4.10, because our money is devalued. Subtract the devaluation of our currency by 41 percent of its value in 2001. That leaves you with 59 percent of what our money was worth the day Bush took office. 100 divided by 59 = $1.694915

Ok 1.694915 X 2.42 = roughly $4.10
That’s the average gas price in the U.S. as of yesterday.

This doesn’t even take into account how much oil has gone up every time there is talk of attacking Iran – or when something else goes wrong in Iraq.

So basically we’ve helped destabilized oil markets
for everyone who buys their oil from the middle east. That’s why we are not the only ones struggling with gas prices. The difference for a lot of the rest of the world is that there gas was already high to begin with generally – so they have to raise their prices, too. So you figure that gas would now be 2.42 in the U.S. today – also I haven’t even taken into account how much oil has gone up each time Bush mentions attacking Iran or when another 50 or 60 people get blown up in Iraq. That could account for 20 percent of the price of a barrel of oil right there easily – at the very least. So we would be paying without these wars somewhere in the region of around $2 a gallon. Maybe even $1.90 a gallon, which isn’t really that crazy considering the fact that gas was on average $1.50 when Clinton left office in 2001. It wasn’t 9/11 that pushed gas prices up – if you look at the charts – the prices went up right around the time the U.S. started talking about yellow cake and aluminum tubes and the need to attack Iraq.

Leann   July 5th, 2008 - 7:57 pm

Sad to say some people think their free speech is more important than everyone else in the group.I am sick of these people getting in our face.I have the right to listen to the President no matter what party he is. They tried to steal my rights.Next time I’m taking a bottle of jello water the cool them off.

Leann   July 5th, 2008 - 8:03 pm

In the US people are paid to protest. I think the going rate now is about $20.00 American dollars per hour. These folks are paid by groups that want our President and Country look bad.
One such group I am told is MOVE on.org.
Many of these groups run ads in local newspapers to hire people.

Bob   July 5th, 2008 - 8:06 pm

Bush Leading Immigration’s Benedict Arnold

by Frosty Wooldridge
April 21, 2005
NewswithViews

Can a country commit suicide? Can the leaders of America kill this country? Can President Bush an avowed globalist who refuses to uphold the oath of office, destroy our Constitution by aiding and abetting this unending illegal invasion? Can Bush destroy our Sovereignty?

“YES! The Benedict Arnold Brigade destroying our country is led by George Bush,” Wes Bramhall, 83 year old WWII verteran said while standing on the line with the Minute Man Project accross from Naco, Mexico. “Senator McCain is his field Commander and Flake Kyl and Kolke are his corporals. The rest of the members of Congress are lynching our country to death.”

“Why are you out here with the Minute Man Project?”

“I’m not going to be around much longer” Bramhall said, “but I’ve got granddaughters who will have to face this accelerating nation destroying invasion. I’m here for them.

We’ve got to stop Bush from destroying our country. He’s no differeent than the traitor Benedict Arnold.”

History dictates that no great nation lasts forever. None have withstood the vagaries of time. Looking through the hour of years all of them-tose to triumphal states only to plummet into defeat via war or they coasted into mediocrity. The historian Arnold Toynbee observed that all great Civilizations
rise and fall. But it’s their method of demise
the creates the intriguing part. He said “An autopsy of history shows that all great nations
commit suicide.”

Is Bramhall wrong? Is he off base? Can a continous annual influx of three million illegal aliens and one million legal immigrants destroy
America’s cohesive and sustainable future?

Of the 1,000 plus emails boiling into my computer in box each month, American Citizens
demand that I tell it like it is. What are they saying? are they off base? Let’s see what they have to say

“I read your article about Bush and Rice, versus the Minutemen,” Mike from North Carolina, said.

“Our government has abandoned the American people
and our Constitution. Bush should be impeached and thrown in Federal prison. He is an enemy of civilization, a liar and a traitor to his oath to uphold the Constitution. The only two real American in Congress are Ron Paul of Texas and Tom Tancredo of Colorado. They understand what is happening and are willing to do something about it! God Bless the Minutemen and keep them safe! Illegal Immigration will be the defining topice in the 2006 election.”
“You’re 95 percent correct in your position except you have it wrong.” John a retired engineer, said. “Bush and Rice know full well what they’re doing regarding illegal immigration. Come on_tell it like it is! Pirates
have control of our helm. Bush’s stance clearly shows that he wants to merge us with South America,i.e. FTAA, CAFTA, LOST, etc. Illegal immigration facilitates this merging-following the pattern of the European Union.”

killerbee   July 5th, 2008 - 8:24 pm

Bob, first of all, most guys I know named Bob are Giant Douche’s. Second, Frosty is nothing more than a Turd Sandwich. If someone had to vote for a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich, which would you vote for? Guess which one is Barry Obama.

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 8:28 pm

qualtrough writes:

“True conservatives, not what passes for conservative nowadays, and liberals both dislike Bush for shredding our constitution, involving us in two illegal and disastrous wars, sullying the good name of the US by engaging in torture, letting our dollar slide into worthlessness, and letting the economy slip into a depresssion. I could go on, but why bother? You people who think Bush is the bee’s knees really need to do some reflecting.”

Yeah…you really got us pegged buddy. You sound so deranged. “Shredded the Constitution”. Jesus christ. What part of the Constitution has been shredded? Due process for terrorists? Oh yeah…and torture. Are you talking about the 3 people who were waterboarded or the frat-like antics at Abu Ghraib? I honestly don’t know if liberals really are outraged by these things or they just hate Bush so much that they act like there outraged in order to have a better chance of winning the next election. Do you really think for a minute that if Gore had won we wouldn’t have gone into Iraq? This Monday morning quarterbacking is ridiculous. After 9/11 we were pissed off! It wasn’t just about getting the specific people responsible for 9/11 it was about sending a message to the world that if you F with us we will come to your country beat the crap out of you. Saddam had been thumbing his nose at us ever since the cease fire after Operation Desert Storm. We had every right to remove him from power even before 9/11. This revisionist history has gotten out of hand. Remember Khadafi getting into line? Remember there hasn’t been an attack since? If a week after 9/11 somebody had predicted that for the remainder of Bush’ years there wouldn’t be an attack who wouldn’t have said that would be a success? I mean really…this is about polictics not policies. If Gore was in the White House we would have went to Iraq and you guys would be talking about how well Gore has protected us all the while singing his praises for having the fortitude to see it through to the end.

TOM OXTOBY   July 5th, 2008 - 8:32 pm

I WONDER HOW MANY COWARDS SUCH AS THESE TODAY HAVE EVER JOINED THE ALL VOLUNTEER ARMY / ARMED FORCES TO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF FREEE SPEECH ??..DANG FEW !!..A BUNCH OF COWARDS WHO REST THEIR PATRIOTISM ON THE ARMS OF MUCH BETTER AND BRAVER FOLKS THEN THEM..WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE..THESE FOLKS ARE JUST COWARDS WHO GET BRAVE FOR A DAY AND LIVE OFF OF THE HARD WORK OF OTHERS..COME TO THE MIDWEST AND ILL SHOW YA A GOOD WUPPING !

Bob   July 5th, 2008 - 8:36 pm

You can’t defend Globalist Bush so you throw insults, very unimpressive and very typical of the Bush lemmings who should be kicked out of the country along with the Obama supporters.

an 83 year old WWII veteran was out defending this country by active participation in the Minute man Project that was attacked by Bush and his eloquent liar Condi Rice
who like his good friend Bill Clinton, skipped out of going to NAM making him lesser of a man than even John Kerry. (I do want to hurl saying that ugly truth)

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 8:45 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0h6gehCPvpk&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVFYcxLiRGk

Here’s a couple clips of Gore when he was running for VP. chastising H.W Bush for not removing Saddam saying Iraq had chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction. What a bunch of hypocrites. If anybody should be facing prosection it’s the Democratic leadership for basically comitting treason by giving comformt to our enemies during time of war. After all, if Bush lied and is the tyrant then the terrorists killing our soldiers must be the good guys. It’s only logical. You guys all like to talk about what an awful warmonger W. Bush is, but he really could make a decent case for treason against many Democrats in Congress.

Please comment my liberal brethen after watching the above clips. Are you f’ing kidding me? Can anybody defend this? Does this leave little doubt that all the bs about Bush lying is political posturing in the worst way? The Dems have been playing politics with a war. It’s not that they sincerely are against…no they’re just using to try to get elected. If Gore had the Presidency right now we’d be in the same place (after watching the video are you really going to argue we wouldn’t) and the Dems would be saying the opposite about Iraq. Treason anyone?

greg in oregon   July 5th, 2008 - 8:50 pm

I got news for some of you “Bush Haters”…and you ain’t agonna like it either…Long after all of us are dead and gone and the history of this Bush Administration is written (based on documentation and historical fact not emotion and marching orders from Chris Mathews, that Olberman idiot, &/or MSM), GW will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents. There is absolutely no doubt that a REAL vast left wing conspiracy (not the FAKE one as described by Hillary back in the late ’90s)has been at work to discredit him, his policies, and his administration at every turn since before he even took the oath of office. And it has been going on 24-7-365. Unfortunately for us, when you repeat a lie as often as the Left has repeated their lies about Pres. Bush, after awhile we as a whole begin to believe the lie…That certainly is not to say the GW hasn’t made mistakes, because he has. Immigration was a biggie. The months following the Invasion could’ve been planned better, and in my oppinion, letting No. Korea off the hook is another one…But hey!!! For the most part, President Bush told us what he stands for before he got elected and has done just that. That’s pretty remarkable in today’s political arena. Slick Willy didn’t do that.

Rick   July 5th, 2008 - 8:53 pm

I thank our soldiers for getting rid of the terrorist there and not waiting for them to attack us here again
Terrorism wasn’t created by the invasion of Iraq. They have been attacking, bombing and killing Americans for decades except that nobody had the guts to do anything about it before. Specially Bill Clinton who had the opportunity to Kill Usama Bin Laden when he was still planning the Attack in the world trade center and didn’t have the guts to give the go ahead the shoot a missile that could have prevented 9/11 and murder of all those innocent civilians which only crime was that they are american citizens

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 9:15 pm

It never fails to amaze me at how ignorant most of our electorate is. This economy grew constistantly for the first 6 years of the Bush Presidency. Then for about the last two years we’ve seen slow down and perhaps even decline a bit. Let’s see…what happened two years ago. Oh yeah the Dems got control of Congress! Most people have no idea how our governemnt works. The Congress has a far greater impact on economic concerns than the President yet most people blame every problem on him. The Preident’s main area of conern and power is foreign policy (ie. Commander In Chief). We have 3 branches of government not a monarchy, but we act as if every problem we face stems from something this one person does. What do these people think? Is there some lever in the white house that the President pulls affecting the economy? Believe or not the Congress controls the purse strings in this country and the Dems have presided over that for the last two years. And what a coincedence…the economy is a mess. However, all I keep hearing is how many more Democrats are going to be elected in November. Don’t you realize what you’re doing? You’re basically making it in the Democrats best interest to screw up the economy as much as possible! Why do you think there so against expanding drilling? They want to see prices go up because they know the retarded electorate will blame Bush for it! If Obama wins I gurantee he’ll change his position about drilling. Then when the market speculation reacts to the news of future greatly increased oil production and the market stabalizes and goes down he’ll take all the credit for it. Nobody in the media will bother to ask him why he didn’t change his mind sooner. Instead he’ll just be hailed as our savior and our illiterate electorate will buy it. Blame the politicans all you want, but we’re the idots who let them get away with it. The Dems are sabotaging the economy and not only are we not going to punish them for it, we’re going to reward them for it!

scott   July 5th, 2008 - 9:21 pm

The founding fathers never envisioned every functioning iliterate having the right to vote. Shouldn’t you at least have to have a basic understanding of our system to participate in it? Democracies work on the principle of having a well informed electorate. Most people in this country could not tell you what the Congress or the Supreme Court does. Most people think the Supreme Court’s sole purpose was passing a law making abortion legal for heaven’s sake! As to this, the Dems play the game of counting on the electorate’s ignorance. I can’t remember how many times I’ve heard Dem pols say that if a Rebuplican gets elected he’ll take away your precious right to an abortion. He can’t! Even if the Supreme Court finally realized there’s nothing in the Constitution that guantees the right kill your child it would still be up to the states to decide whether to ban it or not. The liberal states wouldn’t while some more conservatives would. That’s all that would happen. As per the rules of Democracy the people would decide whether or not the state would support the right of killing your unborn child. What’s wrong with that?!?

Richard   July 5th, 2008 - 9:32 pm

I would not disrupt someone else’s event this way. I would boo him when he paused for applause.

The Olberman show had footage of Bush arriving somewhere and waving to onlookers. The onlookers just stood there. Bush waved harder and wider. The onlookers did not react at all. Those onlookers definitely made an impression on GWB.

Bob   July 5th, 2008 - 10:13 pm

Rice, Bush, And Congress Vs. Minute Man Project

Frosty Wooldridge
April 5, 2005
NewsWithViews.

While in Mexico kissing and polishing Fox’s boots recently, Secretary of state Condi Rice
blurted out that she does not support lawless vigilantesPatrolling America’s vulnerable southern border. Nevermind 4,000 illegal aliens and drug smugglers cross nightly over the Arizona sector alone according to Time Magazine!
She felt the Minute man Project represented lawless behavior on the part of American Citizens.
What is a vigilante? the dictionary defines one as watchful, aware, alert, to keep watch and to stay alert in times of danger.

When it comes to danger, the christian Science Monitor presented disturbing News. March22, 2005,
“Concern is growing at the top levels of government about the US-Mexico border beoming a
backdoor for terrorists entering the United states. While Al Qaeda infilitrating accross the nation’s southern border has been a constant concern since 9/11, US officials cite recent intellignece giving the most definitive evidence
yet that terrorists are planning to use it as an
entry point if they haven’t already.

The report continues with, “in the Brownsville
sector alone, border patrol officials reported they caught 23,178 OTMs (other than Mexicans) crosing through August 2004,” Mr. Ortiz says,” of those, 16,616 were released.” Ortiz also pointed out that another loophole is entering Mexico through Brazil where a Visa is not required to travel to Mexico.” We believe there is an international Salafast Jihad movemtn with a goal to attack the near enemy and far enemy, the US” says Richard Shulz an international security expert at Tufts University’s Fletcher school in Mass. These terrorists are smart. They study these issues and learn from on other. And one way in is right through the southern security perimeter.”
Since the President of the USA encourages illegal immigration, The Minute Man Project
fills the bill and sports Americans from 50 states while numbers over 1000, volunteer. Congress is nervous, Condi Rice is upset. Bush
is Clueless

Four years after the 9/11 killed 3,000 people,
Bush violates his oath of office. He has not
and will not place troops on the border. He won’t enforce immigration laws. He won’t pursue employers of illegal aliens. He won’t deport illegal alien. He is clueless to the crime,drugs,
school chaos, diseases and lawlessness facing all of us in every state in the Union. He insults Americans by telling them that Mexicans do the jobs that Americans won’t do. He’s doing nothing more than inviting working slaves into our country from the Third World.

Therefore, Jim Gilchrist and Simcox created the Minute Man Project to do the jobs that Bush and congress won’t do. this is the largest citizen ‘Neighborhood Watch’ group ever assembled in defense of America.
Gilchrist said, “The Minute Man Project
protests the refusal of Congress and the President to protect our borders from illegal immigration who, have not had Criminal or disease
background checks thereby creating imminent danger to all Americans.

formerliberal   July 5th, 2008 - 10:14 pm

Geesh, the idiot left don’t know when to shut the hell up. Do they? It’s so funny that they couldn’t even be in charge of Congress for two years before the American public turned against them. I was so happy in 2006 that the Democrats won, but then I saw what they want to turn this country into, and I couldn’t stand for it. Go McCain in 2008!!

Jamesb   July 5th, 2008 - 10:43 pm

Comparison Contrast, I not necessarily disputing your examples of waste and fraud but where can I look up your examples? Again, not dissing you, and ya, I can Google military wasteful spending but where did you get your examples? By the way, how much money has been wasted in the other war? You know, the war on poverty? I think it started in 1964 and TRILLIONS and I mean Mondo Big Bucks, mega TRILLIONS have gone down the drain in that “fight”. Did it buy the Dems some votes? Damn right it did! Did it work? Not yet. Clinton was strong armed by the GOP into “reforming welfare” in the 90’s, you know the bill that then Ill.State Senator B.H.Obama OPPOSED! He felt like he “wouldn’t have voted for the bill”. For what it’s worth, I don’t belive in fraudulent military spending BUT I’m a little more comfortable seeing my tax dollars go to General Dynamics to pay an engineer to work on defense systems, That guy also pays taxes (lots) and normal regressive taxes, sales tax, etc. War on poverty? Oh probably keeps some crack dealers in Chicago rolling in Cash and wearing some phat bling-bling. Is that correct nomenclature? I don’t speak ebonics.

Head Bustin Hank   July 5th, 2008 - 10:48 pm

Liberals have big mouths. Patriots have big guns. Guess who wins the coming civil war?

Jamesb   July 5th, 2008 - 10:55 pm

Richard, Dolberman has become so shrill and so idealogically driven it’s hard to take anything he says or airs without about 10 billion grains of salt. I woudn’t put it past him to doctor footage or otherwise distort imagery to push his agenda. K.O. a newsman? Not hardly. If his show is on in a toney frat house up east and one of the brothers get’s up to go to the pisser his audience dimminishes by 50%.

former Republican voter (cept Ron Paul)   July 5th, 2008 - 11:10 pm

What Does “Fed Pumps $68 Billion Inot Banking system Actually mean?

By Devvy Kidd
copyright 2007- Newswithviews

Last week saw a bucking bronco ride in the stock market. The American people read headlines such as: Fed vows, then pumps massive funds to calm markets and Fed’s $38 billion helps markets. I have written many columns the past several years as have hundreds of others warning of the coming financial tsunami. Far too many people scoffed at all the warnings, continued to rack upmassive debt and pusued the American dream of owning their own home when their financial portfolio and credit history simly could not float the big boat they were taking out into the ocean. The first of the dominos began to teeter earlier in the week: Aug.6 (Bloomberg)– “American Home Mortgage Investment Corp. became the second biggest residential lender to file for bankruptcy protection this year, adding to signs that late payments have spread to honmeowners with good credit records.” Dr. edwinVieira is arguably the foremost authority in this country on the central bank and the history of our monetary syste. His monumental tomes, Crash Maker (ficiton) and Pieces of Eight (nonficiton) are the quintessential teaching tools towards understanding this comlex issueand making it understandable for average Americans like me. I bring this up because over the weekend I had a long telephone discussion with Edwin aobut the market last week. We both agree that the clock is ticking and all the bombastic gas let loose by financial guru’s like FAUX’S (FOX) Neil Cavuto, is just that because all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to fix this one. Not for a long time.
This government’s plunge protection team (PPP)
galloped in this past week and dumped almost $70 billion “dollars” into the banking system to save themselves. Creating “billions” out of thin air. Worldwide, central banks were scrambling
and issuing more worthless paper to the tune of triple digit billions. The big neon billboard has been lit up with a message no one wanted:
the stock market growing more fearful about tightening credit after years of free for all Liquidity. High Times at Mortgage Express. Investors who don’t have in-depth knowledge or real understanding of our monetary system and the FED, trying to figure out what’s going to happen to their investments. The subprime mortgage market free fall has been building for years. These are loans made to people who have less than ideal credit- all being done during a housing market that began it’s slump alomst two years ago. On August 9, 2007 the privately owned Federal Reserve pumped “24 billion in temporary reserves to the banking system amid an increase in demand for cash from banks roiled by U.S> subprime loan losses.” The next day, the FED infused the dying patient on the operating table three different injections: $38 billion. Some say this won’t be nearly enough to stop the hemorrhaging. The latest “rescue” by the central bank is going to be short lived and many experts not on the govenment’s payroll predict the FED will have to reverse it’s decision last week to leave interest rates alone and instead, announce an emergency drop in rates. The wise folks over at urbansuvival said it best las Friday: “When up to a third of a trillion dollrs being dumped into financial markets’ in 36-hours doesn’t stem the tide, even the financially ignorant can sense something has changed. That’s pouring
money into the financial system at a rate equivalent to all of Canada’s GDP every four days. And what did we get? A 31-point Dow loss anwayway!” The government announced on August
10, 2007, that Freddie mac and Fannie mae will not be allowed to acquire any more mortgage debt.
Banks and lending institutions have for too long been making bad loans and desite the gigantic
warning sign, greed carried them through the years, but now foreclosures packages are spitting out more paper than the Pentagon. Let me give you an example. Go to: foreclosureDotcom
On the left side, just pick California and Los Angeles county. Look at just this one list of houses in foreclosure. there are other sites I’ve browsed with page after page after page of houses in foreclosure just in the LA area alone; they range from $250,000-$1.8 million. foreclosures were already hitting record numbers by June 2007.

The inventory of available housing continues
stack up like Uncle Sam’s IOU’s to the world.
The “dominant media” continues to dress up the naked mannequin in little better than see-through
clothing; the numbers tell the real story. During the roaring refi years of low interest rates, Americans took the equity out of their homes and enjoyed the good life. Then came the unpleasant taste of fear when their homes were no longer worth what they paid for them, inventory in their areas can’t be sold and the final shocker: subprimeloans in numbers enough to gag a planet suddenly went bad as consumers
could no longer make those payments. Where do
these folks go when they are forced out beacuse of foreclosure? Rental apartments, family or in their cars. They contribute nothing to the economy because any disposable income they might have goes just for the basics of survival. As
Edwin said in our recent conversation, the system
has to keep propping itself up in an attempt to fend off hyper inflation like what hit Argentina
where people once able to prosper were eating out of garbage cans. Unfortunately, and sadly, most Americans simply have little or no understanding of the subject matter, but to not understand what’s happening will be deadly for millions. How will this affect the average American out there already dying under the weight of credit cards debt insufficient household income (despite two working people, sometimes with three paychecks) and taxes in all forms taking disposable income? 1. The middle class has been destroyed by unconstitutional trade agreements; our most productive and important job sectors decimated- agriculture, manufacturing, industrial. Wages have not kept up with the cost of goods and services; the illegals invsion sucking the lifeblood out of this country by stealing jobs (like meat packing at good wages) and sending BILLIONS “home.” Pile on the continued sacking of the people’s purse by thieves in one Congress after another and a five year undeclared war being funded through borrowing slapped on their backs, has left the American family broke. Seniors living on social security and investments will see those dwindle and will have to keep tappingwhatever savings they might have accumulated over their lifetimes.
One “rainy day” will drown them.
2. Growing numbers of Americans refuse to buy Made in Communist China; I am one who has bee doing it since 1994 when NAFTA was unconstitutionally signed into law. I don’t even own a toaster. I go without when I can’t find what I need but I can generally find what I want by taking the time. If you can’t find it there,do
a search and you will get results. This does not help our economy or retailers, but I’m sorry. I will not give my money to an enmey of my country
just for “things.” And, remember this: there’s a good chance the fur in your sweater, parka and even doll clothes comes from dogs skinned alive in Communist China..

orwell   July 5th, 2008 - 11:24 pm

EVILROY

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back706.html

On July 4, INDEPENDENCE day, The People your kind, the royalists, out.

The people are being usurped by fascist human trafficking, illegal invasion sanctioned by the corporate elite. Bush is only serving that cause with this gesture. He has zero allegiance to America.

Read:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back706.html

Willie   July 5th, 2008 - 11:25 pm

What a joke. Bush is talking about free speech while the thug cops, and suits with dark glasses and earpieces, are pounding on and removing people engaging in free speech. Kind of like Hitler telling the Jews they were welcome in Germany while the Gestapo is rounding them up to go to concentration camps.

orwell   July 5th, 2008 - 11:28 pm

greg in oregon

bush is one of the most roundly hated presidents of all time. what planet you from? get your head out of the sand.

leftist have guns too and eplosives   July 5th, 2008 - 11:51 pm

when people think militia they think of Republican voting Joe Six Packs playing in the woods with their Army Surplus BDU’s

forgotten at leas in mainstream thinking are the many Communists/marxists that were very big on Firearms training in the 70’s and probably do today but keep low key (lessons learned from FBI infiltrations no doubt)

more well known to mainstream is Louis Farrakan
who has had his paramilitary bodyguards and soldiers trained in places like Libya. They are well armed and did a banged up job at an orderly
riot on Cinncinati a few years back. Very organized they were as they rode around in new Ford Explorers while ordering folks to burn down telephone/power lines by placing dumpsters by them and setting them on fire stuff.

then there are the leftist groups that had alot of their people sent to prison for blowing up law enforcement officers. The kind that used to pass a younger Hillary around back in the day.

yeah Bush voters have guns and quite a few with military training although often that doesn’t mount to much

but when the leftists/liberals pop up they’ll
have stuff that you in no way could have with a
federal tax stamp.

orwell   July 5th, 2008 - 11:55 pm

There is manipulation of truth in the media, including the “conservative” right.

Have you heard of the Reichstag Fire?

What say you about this link regarding Bush?
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

orwell   July 5th, 2008 - 11:59 pm

it seems the littlegreenfootballs and freerepublic crowd of paid political bloggers are here.

War is a racket
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

kathy   July 6th, 2008 - 12:01 am

after 9/11 their is NO another attack happened in USA soil. because of PRESIDENT BUSH NO ATTACK HAD HAPPENED.

BUT I AM 100% SURE THAT AFTER PRESIDENT BUSH IS GONE

AND WHOEVER WILL BE NEXT PRESIDENT OF USA THEIR WILL BE ANOTHER ATTACK ON USA SOIL.

GOD BLESS AMERCIA AND GOD BLESS THIS WORLD.
I LIKE AND LOVE PRESIDENT BUSH AS A PERSON AND AS OUR COUNTRIES PRESIDENT.
IT WILL TAKE YEARS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHY AMERCIA WENT FOR WAR. AND NOTHING IN THIS WORLD HAPPENED WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF GOD. NOT ONE LEAF FROM A TREE CAN BE SHAKEN WITHOUT GOD.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:01 am

kathy

is that a threat?

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:02 am

kathy

“god bless america”

http://www.spirituallysmart.com

Choctaw2   July 6th, 2008 - 12:03 am

These “Protestors” more than likely, are not employed, just living off welfare and fake disability claims. If they were real Americans, they wouldn’t have time to dress up in funny uniforms and make signs. They would be to busy working and making income for their family. If we brought the draft back, and they were eligible, they would put the roach out in the astray, take their stash, and leave. Problem solved.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:10 am

kathy choctaw2

“when fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross”

http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00085

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:14 am

An objective look at the evil wicked hateful comments here by “Bush supporters” in the name of god, it is no wonder that Americans are so outraged.

Actually it not be all Bush to blame, maybe there is nothing he can do about YOU. Maybe you are the problem, more so than Bush! Yes.

kokopoko   July 6th, 2008 - 12:21 am

Three prostesters; and this is newsworthy. One would think that there are at least three protesters at Obama’s events. So tired of the hatred spewed by the left; freedom of speech, is in fact that, not that which suits you. Facism, God………….give me a break, unfortuately, most on the left need to find some kind of God; therefore, one would not extol facist, marxist beliefs.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:54 am

I hold my rectum open wide for all Mexicant invaders that want to experience my torn old arse..

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 12:55 am

Richard July 5th, 2008 – 9:32 pm

I would not disrupt someone else’s event this way. I would boo him when he paused for applause

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And then I’d punch you in the mouth.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 1:00 am

Sounds like something those loud mouthed coloreds would do.. they are hated every where they go.
Loud and pushy.. and smelly.. ever smell one of those ..things? They smell like pure crap.. sweaty, musty and foul.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 1:07 am

We sho needs to be sendin’ dem ole colored folk back to “Da mudda land” fo sho!!

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Let’s have a national monkey free day where nothing is bought from any store that hires one of these pickaninny parasites.. buy only from Humans..

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 1:16 am

Sho loves me some o dem white wimmen.. dey sho smell betta dan those hairy legged fat sow halfapes i usually be gettin ta mate wit.

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 1:16 am

They should send all you ‘boons back to muddaland as fast as the boats will go. .

nigg@luva.com

orwell   July 6th, 2008 - 1:20 am

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allen antrim   July 6th, 2008 - 1:21 am

When communism comes here it will be wrapped in the hammer and cycle and its god will be the mass.

Lou Dobbs is correct   July 6th, 2008 - 1:22 am

Bush is a meathead. I hope somebody nukes this godamned country. It is all downhill now…

Slideshow   July 6th, 2008 - 1:25 am

“SLIDESHOW!!!!!!!”

Millions of Dead americans   July 6th, 2008 - 1:44 am

With a little luck, lots of planning and the blessing of All Mighty Being the Supreme Allah, millions of americans will be sent to Hell in a bloodstorm unlike any ever witnessed by mankind. It will rain blood upon the homeland of the non-believer. The deaths will be so numerous the bodies cannot be buried. Swaths of land will become killing fields for man, beast and plants. One man’s delivery of a “creature comfort” will be another mans’ deliverance.

Raskal II   July 6th, 2008 - 1:53 am

It’s all because of those Jews…

Taylor   July 6th, 2008 - 1:59 am

To the spammer who calls himself “orwellian”: PLEASE GROW UP! Whether you agree with Bush or not, a 4th of July swearing-in ceremony for naturalized citizens is NOT the forum for partisan protest! The behavior exhibited by these self-proclaimed protesters was arrogant, rude, and selfish. It did NOTHING to advance their cause whatsoever. All it did is convince sane, responsible, mature adults that a certain segment of the anti-ware crowd lacks the temperance and judgement to be taken seriously. And before you start your nonsense about “CIA operatives” or “paid bloggers”, this poster is NOT a Republican, nor has he ever voted for Bush for ANYTHING. I’m merely a citizen and voter sick of seeing my country embarrassed by a bunch of jerks acting like spoiled teenagers, demanding attention all of the time for their extreme views!

Head Bustin Hank   July 6th, 2008 - 2:26 am

QUOTE:

leftist have guns too and eplosives July 5th, 2008 – 11:51 pm

when people think militia they think of Republican voting Joe Six Packs playing in the woods with their Army Surplus BDU’s

forgotten at leas in mainstream thinking are the many Communists/marxists that were very big on Firearms training in the 70’s and probably do today but keep low key (lessons learned from FBI infiltrations no doubt)

more well known to mainstream is Louis Farrakan
who has had his paramilitary bodyguards and soldiers trained in places like Libya. They are well armed and did a banged up job at an orderly
riot on Cinncinati a few years back. Very organized they were as they rode around in new Ford Explorers while ordering folks to burn down telephone/power lines by placing dumpsters by them and setting them on fire stuff.

then there are the leftist groups that had alot of their people sent to prison for blowing up law enforcement officers. The kind that used to pass a younger Hillary around back in the day.

yeah Bush voters have guns and quite a few with military training although often that doesn’t mount to much

but when the leftists/liberals pop up they’ll
have stuff that you in no way could have with a
federal tax stamp.

(END QUOTE)

==============================================

L O L !!!

Gee, I sure hope you loudmouth leftists (I assume you are from your comments) are foolish enough to try. Go ahead, shake that hornets’ nest.

Come get some, comrades.

Bill R.   July 6th, 2008 - 2:43 am

The idiots on the left have a right to express themselves no matter how deluded they are. They DO NOT, however, have the right do disrupt a ceremony recognizing new American citizens. Those people have rights too and the protesters were clearly infringing on them. Your freedoms end where mine begin. Just as your right to make and throw a fist ends before it contacts my body. The protesters should have been thrown in jail for diorderly conduct. This ceremony was only about newly naturalized citizens and was the wrong venue to stage a protest.

Joseph   July 6th, 2008 - 3:26 am

For Bush to step foot in Monticello is an insult to Thomas Jefferson and the heritage he has left for our nation.

Blaze Hauser (Green party Militia)   July 6th, 2008 - 5:42 am

to all those out there who threaten death et cetera to Liberals and others who happen to disagree with you, bring it on. I may be voting for Ralph Nader but I have a gun and know how to use it. I definitely believe in the second amendment and i`ll be damned if you`re gonna kill me without me getting the chance to kill you. I`m not a “liberal wussy” if need be, i`ll kill and sleep like a baby knowing i`m alive and you`re not! As for immigration and other such policies, if you don`t live along La Frontera, then you don`t know what the hell you`re talking about, shut the hell up, Texas and Washington DC are two different worlds, and I fully support my hermanos y hermanas en el sur del frontera. Viva Libertad! Hasta la victoria siempre!!!

jojogoobersmack   July 6th, 2008 - 5:55 am

Just as i say: you’ll posture and say “omg we liberals has guns, too!”

well, getin the ring, fools. if it’s as bad as you say it is, then get the ball rolling you freedom-fighters! Oh, yeah…you won’t. Because deep down, you know you’re full of it.

And Blaze, you may have a gun, but we outnumber you 10 to 1. Let all your anglo neighbors know your feelings about the “Reconquista” and see how long you last when the bullets fly.

Get some.

Sheesh   July 6th, 2008 - 7:00 am

Why is it that liberals applaud each other for protesting (which accomplishes nothing) but cannot applaud a conservative for trying to actually fix a problem by doing something?

I don’t know of any problem on the face of the earth that was ever solved by protesting.

I can name thousands that were solved by action.

FoSure   July 6th, 2008 - 7:09 am

sickntired – If you ever actually watched CSPAN, you would have seen that he did get authority from Congress to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. I guess by mentioning that the media is corporate owned that supposed to insinuate that it leans right. Most of the top corporations in America give their money to the Democratic party, not the GOP. Just because your dad was in the Army does not make you a patriot. Go perform your own service.

Rob_NC   July 6th, 2008 - 7:17 am

Wonder what truly oppressed people think when they/if…they hear of these folks escapades.

One can only imagine the despair they must feel.

Some put their trust in the UN….others which I include myself will not wait forever for action…some would be well advised to understand that…patience does have it`s place and limits.

Distain is a two way street folks…….

David   July 6th, 2008 - 8:16 am

I will never understand one thing about protesting an event like this. He was there to swear people who were legally allowed to stay and become citizens. This is an event that should have been left alone, so that the people and the families could cherish the day. Instead they get “hippies” with nothing better to do. This is one blemish I am sorry they got to see.

Willy   July 6th, 2008 - 8:28 am

What do you expect from BED WETTING LIBERALS? They never have a true thought in their head but only what is parroted to them by the I hate America Crowd in D.C.

Robert   July 6th, 2008 - 8:56 am

What most of us are missing is that these CODE PINK MORONS did nothing but mar an otherwise proud day for new FELLOW AMERICANS. This day wasn’t about the President, it was about immigrants who decided to become Americans the LEGAL WAY (LOU DOBBS fan). These idiot protestors only showed that free speech is alive and well (go to China and try that, ma’am) and that even the intellectually bankrupt can have their say.

skp reader   July 6th, 2008 - 9:47 am

33 Questions About American History that You’re Not Supposed to Ask by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

Did The Founding Fathers Support Immigration?

Though polls consistently find that a majority of Americans believe immigration levels need to be reduced, many people still assume that the right of immigration is a hallowed American principle that no loyal citizen can consistenly oppose.
This assumption is false.
Actually, the Founding Fathers were generally wary of immigration. They did not wish to exclude it altogether, but they saw no particular need to encourage it, especially among migrants whose cultural backgrounds were significantly different from their own.
Consider Benjamin Franklin, that well known cosmopolite and child of the Enlightenment. Franklin, it turns out, said quite a few politically incorrect things about non-British humanity (a category that includes the present writer). On one occasion he asked, “Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs any more than they can acquire our complexion?” Thus immigrants of sufficient number and concentration could radically change the cultural landscape in ways that the native population might not want.
We can already hear the modern liberal laughing at Franklin, pointing triumphantly to German assimilation in America as proof that the Pennsylvanian’s concerns were without merit. But the point here is smiply this: if unrestricted immigration had really been a traditional Americn
principle, someone must have forgotten to tell Benjamin Franklin. And he was speaking of people who, as fellow heirs and architects of Western civilization, shared a great deal in common with the original settlers of British America. One can only imagine what Franklin would have had to say about current immigration policy.

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 10:18 am

33 Questions About American History You’re Not
Supposed to Ask by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

Did The Founding Fathers Support Immigration?

Jefferson And Hamilton On Immigration

Franklin was not alone. Thomas Jefferson’s warning about mass immigration in his Notes on Virginia would doubtless come as a surprise to most Americans, since most American history textbooks for some reason choose not to highlight it. Jefferson asked suggestively, “Are
there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected by a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners?” “It is for the happiness of those united in society,” the sage of Monticello went on to explain, “to harmonize as much as possible, in matters which they must of necessity
transact together. Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent.” our government was “a composition of the freest principles of the English Constitution, with others, derived from natural right and reason.” Nothing could be more opposed to the principles of our government than those of absolute monarchies, said Jerfferson. But was
from such regimes that we could expect the most immgrants. Such immigrants, Jefferson feared, would “bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; of, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty.” A large influx of immigrants from places without any experience with our kind of government and society could only introduce confusion and discord. “These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. in proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass.”

Jefferson concluded that it was “safer” to wait patiently for the natural increase of the American population rather than achieve such increase by mass immigration, and that our government would, as a result,be more peacableand more durable. He left readers with a useful thought experiment: “Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans (were) thrown all of a suddent into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? if it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.”

Laary   July 6th, 2008 - 10:43 am

So much Bush bashing, so many illiterate liberals.

When is there going to be a Voter Test in this country?

Hey libs,
Slick Willie – no approval for Kosovo.
Bush – approval for Afghanstan and Iraq.

Slick Willie – urged removal of Saddam.
Bush – REMOVED Saddam.

Slick Willie – IMPEACHED.
Bush – wants to be impeached by libs.

EHHHHHH!!! You fail the Voter Test, libs.

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 11:08 am

33 Questions about American History That You’re Not Supposed to Ask

Question 3
Were The American Indians Really Environmentalits?

In 1991 the Smithsonian Institution published a popular book called Seeds of Change: A Quincentennial Commemoration, which informed readers that “pre-Columbian America was still the first Eden, a pristine natural kingdom. The native people were transparent in the landscape, living as natural elements of the ecosphere. Their world, the New World of Columbus, was a world of barely perceptible human disturbance.”
Such images have been so consistently and successfully seared into the American consciousness that scarcely anyone would think to question them. But was pre-Columbian America really a “pristine natural kingdom”?

Not at all.
The fact is, the Indians of the New World no more believed in leaving nature untouched than did anyone else in the ancient or modern world. “like Euro-American,” wirte Fergus Bordewich in Killing the White Man’s Indian, “not to mention the rest of humanity, Indians used the maeans at their command to bend nature to their use, and within the limits of their technology, they were no less inherently exploitative of it.” Similarly, the University of Wisconsin’s William Denevan concludes that “the Indian impact (on the environment) was neither benign nor localized and ephemeral, nor were resources always used in a sound ecological way….The size of native populations, associated deforestation, and prolonged intensive agriculture led to severed land degradation in some regions.
Slash and Burn
The Choctaw and Iroquois, for instance, were known to cut and burn forests in order to make new farmland available. After exhausting that soil, they cut and burned more forests. Wooded
areas were also cleared to increase forage for deer, elk, and bison. though in some cases such burning may have made sense, it contradicts the idea that the Indians left the natural world altogether untouched. One result of this burning was a depletion of “old growth” forests. In fact, according to some scholars, there may have actually have fewer such forests in America when the white man arrived than there are today. And the Indians’ fires caused even more environmental damage. In The Ecological Indian: Myth and History, Shepard Krech III reveals that “Indians lit fires that then were allowedto burn destructively and without regard to ecological consequences.” Krech cites numerous firsthand accounts of

fires that Indians ignited inadvertently, became far larger than intended, burned until rains quenched them, and consumed tens and hundreds of thousands of acres in grasslands and forest….
Andrew Graham spoke of extensive fires lit “every summer” and “not a track of a living thing ” the following winter. in eastern forests and on grasslands, many Indian-lit fires raged until extinquished by rain….These examples could be multiplied. Observers depicted many Indians including the Ojibwa, Cree, Mandan, Arapahoe, Gros Ventres, Shoshone,Blackfeet, Assinboine, and various Northern Athapaskan people as “careless” burners, by which they meant that Indian fires accidentally blew up into vast conflagrations or burned until rain fell (which may have been what the Indians intended)>

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 12:15 pm

33 Question About American History You’re Not Supposed to Ask by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

Question 12
Is It True that during World War II
“Americans Never Had It So Good”?

Whenever an earthquake, a flood, or a tornado strikes, some reporter somewhere claims that on net it will boost the local economy, since rebuilding effort will create jobs and increase business for local merchants. Similarly, whenever
a war breaks out, the same reporter can be ccounted on to emphasize the ecomomic stimulus it will allegedly confer. As if on cue, in May 2004 the Washington Post published an article headlined “Across Ameria, War means Jobs.” Although it acknowledged that the matter wasn’t quite so simple, the aritcle nevertheless quoted a great many people who asserted that war was a boon for the economy. “If it wasn’t for (Defense Department) contracting,” said Brian Smith of Columbia Sewing Comany, “we would not be here, and 200 people would be out of a job.” Roanoke mayor Betty Slay Ziglar was thrilled: “These people have grown up sewing in textile plants, and there are so few now. They were desperate to have jobs, and it’s going to expand again. I’m so grateful.” Appliance salesman Gary Gayer told
the Post, “The economy is always helped by war. That’s just a fact.”
War does stimulate certain sectors of the economy, of course. but it is illogical to equate stiumlus in certain sectors with prosperity for the American people as a whole. And that, after all, is the whole point of economics: to consider every policy or event not simply in terms of its short-run, visible effects on parts of the economy-anyone can make simple observations like that-but also in terms of its long-run effect on the whole economy.

It was this point in mind that Frederic Bastiat, writng the mid-ninteenth century, exposed the “broken window” fallacy. A shop window brokern by owner’s “careless son” is siad to benefit the economy, since the company that fixes the window enjoys a “stiumlus,” which in turn is passed along to those with whom the window company does business. What this analysis overlooks is that the man would have spent his money on other if he had not needed to buy a new glass to replace his window. the “stimulus” that would havebestowed on, say, the bookstore, where he could have spent his money, now never occurs because he had to replace his window. Had the window not been broken, the shopkeeper would have had a window and a book. Now he has only a window.

skip reader “better less taxes and more purchases at the book store by Americans than blowing money on blowing people up in the name of spreading democracy”

Get this Book: 33 Questions About American History You’re Not Supposed to Ask by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

it’ll really tick you off at how much we’ve been lied to by the government indoctrination centers aka public schools.
It’ll make you want to hang up the Confederate Flag and buy more ammo at the Wal mart Sporting Goods section.

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 12:39 pm

less stealth bombers and nuke subs
and more money to working Joes so they can afford to heat themselves in the winter buy healthy foods and homeschool school an up and coming new generation of Americans AND so they can have more disposable income to increase their second amendment abilities at the gunstores.

To Hell with the feeding the Pentagon so they can have fancy golf courses on Prime Hawaiin Beachfront.

Let the producers, the people who sweat to create
keep the G darned money that THEY EARNED or
generated

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 1:10 pm

War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense….(I)n general,
the nation in war-time attains a uniformity of feeling, a hierarchy of values culminating a t the undisputed apex of the State ideal, which
could not possibly be produced through any other agnecy than war
-Randolph Bourne

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 1:22 pm

Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. there has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable
are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintellignet.
Indeed, it would not be far wrong to descibe the best as the common enemy of all decent citizens.
But there will be small hope of gaining adherents to this idea so long as government is thought of as an independent and somehow super-human organism, with powers, rights and privileges transcending those of any other human aggregation.
-H.L. Mencken

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 2:58 pm

I Don’t Pledge Allegiance
by Fred Reed

I wish to propose a salubrious anarchy, a deliberate renunciation of fealty to country, society, and government, an assertion of independence from folly and moral decay. Permit meto offer a taxing political idea. When a society ceases to be worthy of support it is reasonable to withdraw support. The time, I submit, has come.
Here I do not mean to urge crime and cousel treason, but to suggest a quiet renunciation
of the national disaster. Ask yourself how much of American life please you. The schools are run by fools to manufacture fools, government grows more intrusive by the day, and culture is determined by the triple cloacae of New York, Hollywood, and Washington.

Freedom withers, not only in the ominous encroachment of police powers, but in loss of control of our schools, church, hiring, daily life. We are no longer our own. The United States is not the country we are told it is, and not the coutry it was.
How to Escape? The beginning and the most difficult, is moral distancing. Those who care must disentangle themselves from the cobweb loyalties and factitious duties with which we have been unconsciously encumbered. From childhood we learn patriotism that one must vote, that if our way is not perfect it is at least best, that we must support everything however bad because we were born in a particular place. Why?
Let me suggest that one owes loyalty to one’s family and friends, to common decency, and to nothing else. Render under Caesar what you must, keep what you can, and swear allegiance to nothing. Here I do not mean just the government, but the zeitgeist, the miasmic fetor of trashy culture, the desperate consumerism, the entire psychic odor of a society in decomposition….

“the rest and more can be found by looking up Fred Reed’s columns over at LewrockwellDOTcom”

thoughts from skip read:
work little and read much the state hates that idea, they’d rather you work to generate income for them and to not have quality time in reflecting (thinking) and reading as it creates
individuals lacking in that Herd sense. It may make 18 years olds decide that getting their legs blown off or losing their eyesight for some dumpy third world country ambiguous pursuits isn’t worth it. that he could feed his ego with more wholesome foods by individual development rather than a cookie cutter uniform and attaching his ego/vanity to the accomplishments of a collective or institution.

former military, gun owner and one time Bush voter speaking.

skip reader   July 6th, 2008 - 4:51 pm

Nothing New
by Charley Reese

Truly, sometimes I think there is nothing new on the face of the earth. Here’s a quotation cited by Mark Twain around the turn of the 19th century. Read it and see if you don’t recognize it from today’s political discours.

“Even if the war be wrong we are in it and must fight it out: We cannont retire from it without dishonor.”

That was in the Phillipine. Perhaps you remember it from your history books. We “liberated” the country from the clutch of Spanish colonialism, but they decided we would just replace the Spanish rather than grant the people independence. They resisted and we fought a second war in the islands against Filipino patriots.
Today all of our politicians with few exceptions, take the same position in regard to Iraq.
Well, it may have been the wrong thing to do, but
we’re there and we can’t leave without a victory.
I heard the same refrain about the Vietnam War. Whatever happened to the saying “Inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war”? The only thing that delaying our departure from Vietnam accomplished was more casualties on all sides. The only thing delaying our departure from Iraq will accomplish is more casualties on all sides.
Why should it be a stain on our honor wo end the occupation of Iraq and hand the country back to the Iraqi people to govern as they please?
It is, after all, their country, not ours; the oil is their oil not ours. Not one Candidate has the guts to say “As soon as I am president I will order Americans troops to withdrawal” What happens after we leave is an Iraqi problem not ours.
Americans had better get shut of their imperial delusions and fast, because we are following the path of every empire that has ever existed toward bankruptcy. Do you really want high gas prices, food rationing, health care rationing and unbearable debt?
What kind of standard of living do you think we can maintain with a collapsed education system, a broken infrastructure, a debilitated manufactuing sector and a debt imploded failed economy?
George W Bush has proven himself to be the worst president in American history. He’s piled up more public debt than all of his predcessors. He’s ruined America’s reputation among the nations of the World, He’s wearing out an Army far too small to do what he demands of it. His diplomacy is a joke. His adminstration is riddled with dishonest and imcompetent people. I don’t know what world his little mind inhabits, but it’s not the one the rest of us live in.

Robert Murdoch, the media mogul, had the nerve
to say recently at a meeting of the Atlantic Council what our politicians are too cowardly to say-namely that our so-called North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies are not pulling their own weight. They of course, never have. One reason we are so in debt is that the brainless in our country have been paying for the defense of Europe and Japan ever since the end of World War II.
That allowed Europe and Japan to modernize their factories while ours deteriorated. We are no longer the arsenal of democracy. In fact, most of our strategic weapons require imports.
If we continue to over plant grains and irrigate normlly dry land we will soon be dependent on imports for food. It’s all well and good that foreign car companies built plants here to take advantage or our relatively cheap labor (compared with their own countries) but one should not forget that the profits from those countries flow back accross the seas.
For a republic to survive it needs a well educated people with self discipline and high morals, healthy agriculture and manufacturing bases, sound money and a frugal but wise government.
I don’t see much of that around these days.

orwell   July 8th, 2008 - 12:01 am

Taylor:

“anti-ware crowd”? For a grown up you spell like a child, and think like one too.

Go back and study the posts that I responded to and the links that I referenced.

True it is uncomfortable to have interruptions at ceremonies, but grow up and face the reality of the world as it is, not as in your simplistic immature imagination.

orwell   July 8th, 2008 - 12:24 am

Final comment.

The sick responses to my posts only goes to prove the that there is no valid rebuttal, only guttural grunts from beasts, moronic immature sick foul minds.

Some are perhaps simply ignorant and perhaps someday will awake from their delusion. Many are just as sick as they appear.

This grotesque display shows that we are doomed.

Has anybody ever successfully argued against Orwell?

There is no point in wasting time on this forum. Orwell was right, and the links that I posted have yet to receive any sign of intelligent response.

We are all doomed. Bray like jackasses until doomsday.

45ACP   July 9th, 2008 - 10:08 pm

9/11 was Slick Willie’s fault along with Billary! During the Clinton years, our military was weakened, over 400 US Military Bases worldwide were closed, thereby causing soldiers to lose their jobs and go on welfare. The bombing of the USS Cole was Clinton’s fault. He done away with the refueling ships and forced the Cole to dock in Yemen, which, by the way, is a terrorist country. We had 3 opportunities to capture or kill Bin Laden during the Clinton years, but he let the window of opportunity close for the soldiers waiting for the “green light” from their “commander in chief” who dodged the draft and fled to his Mother Russia to protest the Vietnam War! TRAITOR! He and Billary should be executed for TREASON against the UNITED STATES!!!

Our defense and military was weakened enough to allow 9/11. It was Clinton’s fault. Period! He will go down in history along with Jimmy Carter as the 2 worse presidents we have ever had!!!

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