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Good for her. It’s no surprise that a Liberal baby killing group like Planned Parenthood would turn to lawsuits to punish anyone who walks away. Kind of like Scientology…..Cults all act the same.

When are women who have had abortions going to start to sue P. Parenthood for insufficient information. It must make them sick when they are pregnant with later wanted babies to see the new 3-D ultrasounds.

Truth has a way of finding it’s way to the surface. Thank God for ultrasounds, they are the light in a dark dark place.

I was disappointed that the interview did not go into exactly how the seeing the ultrasound made her feel & why it made her change her mind.

Planned Parenthood’s lawsuit is ridiculous. She’s not allowed to quit? If she does quit she looses her freedom of speech? She is not naming names of staff or patients, she is not giving specifics of cases.

It’s going to hurt their reputation if she talks? Well, isn’t that a damning statement in & of itself?

Of course it will hurt their reputation if the public hears what goes on in those clinics. Most people couldn’t stomach it.

Also very damning….we ordered the staff to get more abortions in the door. Not to worry about what is best for each woman, no, just convince more women to get abortions because we have a budget to make.

Wow, the only time capitalism is beyond evil…when your business is murder for hire.

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Everyone should eye-witness the genocide inflicted on the pre-born and decide if their conscience is so seared that can’t concluded this is murder.
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hopefully one of many

Translation: Don’t you dare tell anyone what we are really doing, or are really about.

Baby killing scum, special room in hell reserved for those PP monsters and anyone who supports them, the upside fo hitler, stalin, and mao is that they have way more company then they thought they were going to have.

Praise the Lord! And welcome home to where you belong Luke 15:11-32

I wonder what “information” that if released would do irreparable harm to planned parenthood?

So this is what it takes? They have to actually see it before they change their minds? Moron liberals.

It is not our place to determine where someone else’s moral compass should point. Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous. The smart choice for pro-lifers would be to push for pre-abortion counseling.

When the whole truth is given…all the information, it makes sense that she would have a change. Additionally, if she truly has had a spiritual conversion, then the heart is changed and that changes everything.

I’m so glad she got to see and hear the truth.

I am grateful that her eyes have been opened. Why do DEMOCRATS support the killing of babiea in their mother’s womb?

88 people being prosecuted for saying THE ROSARY…ON CAMPUS. They did not participate in adoration of “THE ONE” – http://www.FreeTheND88.org

Wow! Good for her. The videos should be mandatory viewing at Planned Parenthood and places like it. Just the fact that it isn’t shows they know the truth. Another clue they know the truth is the controversy aroused by the “Abort Obama” bumper stickers and such. They freak out, “You want to murder our President!” and the Secret Service investigates…but they shuck ‘burdens’ like babies all day long. Evil. The lot of ‘em!

What an awesome story! God is good!

So, the sight of cold blooded murder is too much for you? How ’bout life behind bars you damn serial killer!

Amazing. It’s not enough that they have the legal right to perform abortions, but they have to make sure that no one spills the beans about what exactly goes on in their organization. I guess they’re using the Obama administration’s transparency model, eh? “Keep your mouth shut or we’ll get you.”

Maybe we need an ACORN-style sting to show how they pressure women into these procedures (to the point of, according to some accounts, not letting them leave the premises).

This is just one more bit of proof that shows what those of us with a brain have known all along: Planned Parenthood is in the abortion BUSINESS. I only wish they were having their Going Out Of Business sale…

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I wounder how much of their zeal in defending abortion is a self rationalization to protect their own minds from the consequences of their actions.

For more information about the insidious effects of modern feminism, google “No Bull Mom.”

She’s a liar. They told her to get more abortions in the door?? Lie. What is she supposed to do, go pay somebody to impregnate women and then talk them into getting an abortion? Or going door to door and trying to sell abortions?? This is a bulls**t story.

If you believe in truth – study the founding and the purpose of Planned Parenthood. Its purpose was to “prevent” the spread of “minority” people by preventing their reproduction. Basically, make sure blacks don’t reproduce. Of course the media does not discuss this.
Now about the restraining order, how can a non profit be irreparably harmed by anything – they are not in competition. This is like David Axelrod suddenly deciding tomorrow, he is a conservative and must work against Obama – they will do all they can to destroy this girl.

Good for her! Planned Parenthood was started by Margeret Sanger, a racist who believed in controlling the black population by killing their babies. A recent report finds that more blacks are killed by abortion than by the top 8 causes of death in the black population. However, Planned Parenthood now also targets women of all races, leading to more killings than the holocaust.

I am happy that she has found her way out of that abortion mill. I pray for more and more people involved in that “industry” to have the same change of heart she has had.

The next one may be the next Einstein, Lincoln, Babe Ruth, President or my next door neighbor for that matter. I aways have to wonder how many lives and futures that never recieved the chance to be completed by this murderous group.

Bravo for this woman. Anyone with half a brain
and even an iota of conscience can see that abortion
is MURDER.

God help the baby killers and their liberal
and Democrudic supporters. I don’t know how
they can live with themselves.

Yes, we must give her credit for being honest & not ignoring the ultrasound just to continue her now ‘old’ agenda on the rest of us. An honest person in the abortion group, what a concept & hopefull more will see the ultrasound.

PP is a baby killing factory. Many Liberal Leftists bemoan the simulated drowning of a TERRORIST or cry “Save the Whales”, but they could care less that a human being with a soul is ripped apart inside the womb. It’s a baby, not a choice! They are void of Common sense.

I wonder if how many more would quit if they saw what exactly they were doing too?!?

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I see we have the Soros trolls out in force – Cletus – no – Planned Parenthood is supposed to (according to all government grants) present all options to the young women. Of course, getting the young woman to give up the baby means a tremendous cost in pre-natal care to bring the baby to full term. Most of these young woman are indigent. The point is that they weren’t presenting the adoption choice, only abort the fetus. You are so obviously a leftist troll.
Another interesting twist – Nationalized Health Care – since Care will be rationed, what would be more cost effective with an unwanted pregnancy – a $500 Abortion, or a $15,000 cost of bringing a baby to full term. What will be the option if there is doubt about the baby being healthy – $500 Abortion or bring the baby to full term and $500,000 cost to take care of the child. Watch them force women to get an abortion because it is cheaper -(they do this in China now -I saw it). I saw them force a woman to abort her child because there was DOUBT about it being normally developing. And this doubt was from an ultrasound (an old machine – a’la 1985). The doctor made the woman abort the child.

Hey, CommonSense, the biggest cult is still Christianity.

In the world of politics, we call this a “bombshell”.

What the hell did she think this procedure involved…making a cherry pie? Sheesh!

that is such wonderful news! one heart at a time…

Everyone who wants an abortion should be required to watch the ultrasound.

May God Bless you Gloria. You are in my prayers.

Wonderful news! This is a reminder to pray not just for those considering, but also for those performing and facilitating abortions, that they would have a radical change of heart, just as this lady has. Planned Parenthood cares nothing for their victims, their mothers or anything sans money and destroying lives.

By denouncing free-for-all abortions as supported by the likes of Planned Parenthood (and other radical left-wing groups, including the Democrat party), she has committed heresy against the high sacrament of the religion of liberalism. GOOD FOR HER.

jeckelmyhyde,
The next one may also be Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot, Hitler, or someone really disgusting like Dick Cheney!

May God bless her and keep her strong. I’m sure this was a monumental and difficult decision for her.

I assume that observing an abaortion ultrasonically would turn the stomachs of at least half of America(probably 80% of women),why then do we as a nation tolerate Israeli slaughters of Women and children-not fetuses-in Gaza?

All pregnant women seeking an abortion should see the ultrasound of what is really hapenng.

I think most women seeking an abortion have NO idea what they are doing.

Now do an ultrasound of a eighteen day old fetus and see if you get the same warm fuzzy feeling looking at a tadpole!

Liberals fighting for the right to murder babies is something bizarre and evil to behold.

Hey…that’s what choice is all about.

Is it just me or the people that screamed at our troops in Vietnam about killing babys. Are the ones today killing baby’s?
Liberalism is a mental disorder! God Micheal savage is so right about that.

Let’s have all prospective recruits for the U.S. military look at dead Iraqi children, too.

“A conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged”

She’s been mugged by reality. Knowledge and truth are liberal kryptonite.

kmichaels, most women who have abortions identify with Christianity as their religion. 30% of women who have abortions are Catholics. Are they ALL liberals? Of course not. Why parrots such as yourself consider abortion a liberal thing speaks volumes of your indoctrination.

Entertainment: “why wouldn’t god just make people unable to perform abortions to begin with if he wanted to have a say in it?” You clearly don’t understand God. Have you ever heard the term “free will”? God didn’t make a bunch of robots. He gave us the opportunity to make good choices and bad choices.

Free will is critical to God’s way. If we aren’t free to make right and wrong choices, then there is no true love to God.

Take your original idea a step further? Why didn’t God just make people unable to murder? Because people CAN murder, does that make it right to do so?

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H2K – I thought in your world, a “bombshell” was a really hot sheep and/or what you call your sister when she gets all dressed up for a trip to Wal-Mart?

Pictures of abortions are readily available on the Internet. Perhaps people
who are pro-abortion need to see some of those grotesque pictures of dead unborn
babies. I believe once they are confronted with the reality of how abortion is
nothing less than baby murder, they will change their minds. I know that most people
that SAY they believe in ” A woman’s right to choose” don’t realy understand what
they are really defending. Planned Parenhood, and other organizations or people that
defend and promote unrestricted availability to baby killing are heartless,callous
individuals that really care nothing about the worth of human life. The pictures
tell the whole story.

It’s great this woman is a convert, but all these purported Christians should pray to stop killing civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq by our own troops. Yes, they are accidentally killed when going after people who no longer want us in their country, but after seven plus years of dropping bombs, you can’t say “oops” anymore. Isn’t there a commandment for Christians about “Thou shalt not kill,”? Or is that commandment left open for interpretation?

im a medical student…on my obgyn i saw a suction D and C evacuation after fetal demise. its not pretty. i cant imagine doing this to a living fetus. actually seeing this stuff makes a difference so im not surprised.

kmichaels – hang yourself

Don’t http://www.DumpChrisDodd.com because I’m a PRO-ABORTION “CATHOLIC”

I always wondered how you could justify killing unborn children. In your own mind I mean. Do they get up in the morning with any regret or guilt about what they are doing?

But I suppose it is pretty easy work and the pay is probably pretty good. Like most American’s they can justify it by saying to themselves “it’s just a job”, “I’m just doing what I’m told.”, or the cliche’ “If I didn’t do it, someone else would”. After all abortion is a Constitutional right.

You want to know what she might say? Search ‘black genocide’ on the web. Margaret Sanger was pushing for this many, many years ago. Remember that when you note who’s been awarded the ‘Margaret Sanger’ award in the past… Oh wait, that page doesn’t exist anymore on the PP website. Well, Hillary is one. But since that website is gone, do a search for Sanger’s quotes.

From Mother Theresa: “But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?

By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And, by abortion, that father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. The father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion.

Many people are very, very concerned with the children of India, with the children of Africa where quite a few die of hunger, and so on. Many people are also concerned about all the violence in this great country of the United States. These concerns are very good. But often these same people are not concerned with the millions who are being killed by the deliberate decision of their own mothers. And this is what is the greatest destroyer of peace today — abortion which brings people to such blindness.

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A conservative is a liberal with dementia. You just can’t think for yourself anymore so you let the likes of Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh do it for you.

I live not far from where this took place & it’s nice to see someone realize the reality that planned parenthood is in business to push an agenda. Abortion is a disgusting thing & when I was out of a job, no money, getting evicted from my house my wife told me she was pregnant. It didn’t send me looking for an abortion clinic. It wasn’t even an option. I got a job @ a car wash & waiting tables in the evening to pull myself out of my rutt. When I get home & my son run’s up to give me a hug, that’s something I wouldn’t ever change in a million yrs. You don’t know what a child can do for your life until they open their eyes & look @ you for the first time. Just pure JOY.

So glad to hear this lady is finally doing the right and Godly thing
in abandonig P.P. Abortion is murder. Cowardly to take life of an
innocent, helpless little God produced child. Hell is going to be
hot for those that do and do not repent of this cowardly act. Murder
is murder anyway one wish’s to cut it. For the last 35 years since
Roe V. Wade, millions of innocents have died just because someone
had sex and then decided it was not wanted when baby into the womb.
For those socalled Doctors that perform this, Hell is waiting for you.
Rembember Doctors, “do no harm”..

Surely the word has got out by now: this woman MUST be marginalized, ridiculed and destroyed as soon as possible for taking such an evil position! How DARE she show a consceience! The New York Times, MSNBC, the Janeane Garofalo types, Keith Olbermann, most of the Obama Administration HAS to have this woman shut up some way, ANY way! Stopping abortions on demand is just downright unholy! It is NOT to be stopped, and the truth behind the procedure is NOT to be allowed to be shown to the public! What is happening to this country that this woman was not programmed in time?!? Why was she allwed to access her conscience? Where is Sean Penn, the professors of Berkeley California, George Soros, David Letterman? And where was Bill Maher to destroy this woman for believing in a god??? Why were they not speaking up within an hour of this news?? This woman has to be marginalized!

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First to answer It’s all relative!: Whether it’s an 18 day old child or a one nano-second child doesn’t matter to God. For God says, “I knew you before I formed you in the womb” and again, “I knitted you together in the womb”. You were created by God to fulfill a purpose. You were loved so much by God that he sent his only son Jesus Christ here to die on a cross in a horrific way for your sin and mine. And God raised Him from the dead 3 days later. Praise God.

Praise God for the changing of heart in this woman. I pray for the people at planned parenthood. I pray for anyone advocating the murder of God’s innocent creation. I pray for them because God will not let this slip away. He did not spare his own people so how much less will he spare us? None.

When Israel began worshiping Baal do you know what Baal was? Baal was a metal formed goat with its arms extended and holding a large bowl with a hole in the bottom of the bowl. They would take little babies to that alter and sacrifice them spilling their blood through the bottom of that bowl. God proclaimed judgement for that and scattered His people to the four winds and unspeakable torments (like the Holocause) came about.

So if he did not spare His own people Israel, what do you think he is going to do to us for killing millions upon millions of babies?

We have a president who said, “I have two girls, nine and six year old. I am going to raise them up with morals but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them PUNISHED with a child”. PUNISHED, that is how our own president views children. Would you trust your children or your health with this president? I will not because that statement is against God and me and my house serve the Lord at any cost for all time.

We are not tadpoles. We are all created by God and for God. I pray for your nation. I believe we are in and coming to very scary times.

If you don’t want to have an abortion, don’t have one. Whatever happened to the conservative Christian view of too much government interference? I guess that only holds true if you agree with the interfering.

What hypocrites you all are!

“dave” spouted:

“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.

It’s called Karma.

It’s all relative! November 2nd, 2009 – 12:55 pm
Now do an ultrasound of a eighteen day old fetus and see if you get the same warm fuzzy feeling looking at a tadpole!

Wow, the ignorance shines doesn’t it folks?

Don’t worry, dude, Bill Maher and his buddies will take care of her and her kind, no matter how much airtime he needs to do it over the coming weeks and months. It’s what he lives and breathes for! Letterman might get the occasional pot shot in also if he can find the time between his daily Palin crusade.

While I agree this woman should not violate any confidential agreements involving specific cases, she certainly can shine the light into the darkness of PP that seems to be quite nervous about this woman revealing what may go on behind the closed doors of PP. I wonder what PP has to hide?

Women need all information when considering abortion or life. They should be made aware of not only the life in their bodies through the ultrasounds, and the joy of bringing human life into the world, but also the powerful emotional guilt that may follow an abortion. As the left is so fond of saying lately, let’s have some “truth to power”… so let’s have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, from PP. They need to provide all the information involved in choosing abortion or life, not just their radical or obtuse personal judgements which may influence a woman to make a decsion she may regret her entire life.

Wha-wha-what? I thought scientific advancement was supposed to always and definitively prove liberal social engineering to be righteous. Here we have medical imaging technology that proves what the otherwise interminably stupid “mothers” and abortionists must already know: THEY’RE KILLING A BABY.

As for the red herring “health of the mother” clause, how can she be a mother unless the blob of parasitic flesh is a baby?

50% of abortions are performed on mothers seeking a repeat abortion.

50% – Does that strike as a “considered decision between a patient and doctor” as characterized by those in the pro-abortion movement?

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Think Again, Yet Again! You sound like one of those ObamaBots……”Yes we can…..Yes we can! Talk about not thinking for yourself! Does Axelrod call you and tell you when and where to post your (his) opinion?

Excellent! What I also find hilarious is the leftists leaving comments on here are running scared…trying to repeat the same old lines they’ve used since the 60’s…THE TRUTH SETS FOLKS FREE…scary thought, huh?
FREEEEEEEDDDDDDOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!

To all the self-righteous aborters out there, when you die and are standing before God and being judged by Him, remember to tell Him that you don’t believe in Him, and anyway He has no damn business judging you anyway, because, well, because that’s just “judgemental”! See how far THAT logic gets you. Anyway, like another poster said here, the liberal college professors and your peers told you there’s no such thing as God and only weak-willed people believe in one, so don’t feel stupid when you are standing before God for your sins and your self-righteousness. Tell God that the Berkeley professors told Him that He doesn’t exist! YOu earn extra points with God for that one. And don’t forget that your aborted fetus is quite possible the very one who will stand in judgement of you on that day too. It;s called Karma! Look it up!

“First to answer…Praise God.”
So I was created by God to oppose those who claim to follow him? I could write 1000 pages of the philosophical and logical controversy that is the Bible. You might as well be quoting Dr. Seuss to those of us who aren’t already agreeing with you.

“Praise God .. of babies?”
So we should be afraid of God’s wrath? The coming of Jesus was supposed to be the shift in God’s tactics, when he stopped punishing directly and began loving instead. The idea that God would need to create Jesus to die in our world in order to save us is laughable. It’s hilarious how little theology is taught in Church. If you people actually knew the thought process behind what you were being brainwashed with… you’d have walked out immediately.

Let’s go back to the good old days of coat hangers and poison!

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Once again – life wins. God Bless this lady.

Liberalism is a delusion, that’s why when confronted with reality – it fails everytime.

And if abortion proponents were truly advocates of “Choice”, Planned Parenthood would offer Adoption counseling along with their other services. But, it’s only one choice they really champion…

I Saw a movie almost 30 years ago called “Silent Scream” And it completely changed my views on abortion. When I saw an infant trying to move from a doctors tool meant to pull its arm off I knew right then this was Murder.

CSR spouted:
“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.

It’s called Karma.”

Should the child survive it causes enormous problems for them as well. Is that Karma? As for the woman, what if she is changed forever by the experience? What if she feels guilty afterwards and goes on to be the next mother Teresa?

John says: Let’s have all prospective recruits for the U.S. military look at dead Iraqi children, too.

Nice try……..liberal clown

Who Cares said: “Hey, CommonSense, the biggest cult is still Christianity.”

No, the largest would be the Cult of Obama, but that is starting to fall apart quickly. I think the Dems will go Zero for 3 in tomorrow’s elections. Clearly a majority of Americans are not enthralled with the policies of The Messi-UH, Pelosi and Reid lead Immoral Majority .

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cosmicweatherude,
“Wow, the ignorance shines doesn’t it folks?”

Yeah, I agree that your comment was pretty stupid! Have you ever seen an eighteen day old fetus? You dopes think that a day old fertilized egg that you can’t see without a microscope is “special”, too. “No morning after pill for you, sweetie. I don’t care if you were raped!”

If you clowns believe in this nonsense, feel free to do so. The rest of us want to make our own decisions.

I can’t even believe the lunacy I’m reading here. Abortion is not a political issue. All dems don’t agree with it, all Repubs aren’t against it. I’ve seen studies that show that conservative Christians (many of whom seem to be Repubs) have some of the highest abortion rates. Aboration may be horrible, but so is forcing someone to give birth to an unwanted baby. I’d rather see a fetus terminated than a child abused and unloved.

How? DemocratSS avocate postions that are harmful to ALL AMERICANS from the most innocent, and now with Obamacare, to the most elderly and vunerable. How can any intelligent person support their crazy agenda? How?

Democrats are pigs, filty pigs.

God bless you, Abby. You made the right decision.

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Davetheoriginal,
Nice comment: “Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.”

This is why you losers will always lose this fight. You have no compassion for the women who make these hard choices and are judgmental in addition. What happened to “judge not, lest ye be judged”?

Why must people talk about dead Iraqi children or dead women in Gaza when discussing Abortion? To deflect your attention from the facts that Abortion is murder! Saying a US soldier killed a baby in Vietnam 40 years ago does not justify Planned Parenthood helping to murder thousands of helpless children of God. What will people say if in the future medicine finds a way to keep a baby alive outside the womb after only 12 weeks gestation? Why is it okay to stop life at 18 weeks and not 200 weeks? Both are murder.How can a woman not have a problem with murdering her own child? So sick. Even sicker is that many see abortion as a wonderful way to deal with irresponsible behaviour. Forget to use a condom? No sweat, just destroy that miracle growing in your womb! Don’t forget to suck out the remnants! Was that a head? Sick.

It is sad that ads FOR abortion services appear next to this story. May God forgive us all!!

Lying Lurch,
Actually Kerry did serve in Vietnam. Did “W”, Cheney, or Limbaugh?

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Democrats support of PP is proof enough of their desire to control the population using the people’s government against them. Kinda like Communist China, eh? It continues under Obama, who endorses PP and their funding of his election. He wants a total takeover and ruination of the health care system by his Marxist government for more population control.

Red or Blue pill?

Listen to the Word of The Lord…

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT MURDER!

Abortions should be rare but that doesn’t seem to be the case partially because the fundamentalist right-to-lifers are against birth control and sex ed. and go around preaching their ridiculous abstinence only plans along with their pathetic moralities.
If these people cared half as much about people who have already been born as they do about a tiny group of cells that are unwanted for whatever reason ranging from being a threat to the mother’s life or because the fetus would be doomed to the life of a vegetable because of it’s defects, this would be a better world. How stupid can people be? If you don’t like abortions, don’t have one. If you don’t like other people having abortions then why not try to stop unwanted pregnancies? It would certainly seem like a win win situation. But that would make too much common sense and fundamentalist right-to lifers can’t handle common sense.

Sam Sharp

It’s interesting that the same people who rabidly advocate for a woman’s right to choose (such as our president) would also push to regulate or outlaw what the same woman eats, drinks, smokes, or puts up her nose. If you go deeper into the liberal pysych, you will find its roots in Wilsonian progressivsm. Abortion was designed as a way of culling back the stock of the dark races in this country. It’s astounding how blacks and latinos, which are abortion’s primary recipients, continue to subscribe to a liberal politic

Talk about your high-level defections… wow, PP Inc. must be reeling….

Post the video! Lets the public see what she saw.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/medical/suctionweb.jpg

@tim chop: “Saying a US soldier killed a baby in Vietnam 40 years ago does not justify Planned Parenthood helping to murder thousands of helpless children of God.”

It ’s not thousands, it’s over 50 MILLION… that we know of!

To Jenn:

1. Way to go equivocating the murder of a human being with the inconvenience of
raising one. Ever hear of adoption???

2. It’s NOT a fetus — it’s A HUMAN BEING.

3. Thanks for your nebulous facts on Conservative Christians without any
backing facts.

4. Please go to an abortion clinic and ask to witness:
A. a 1st term,
B. a 2nd term,
C. a 3rd term, and
D. a partial birth
abortions.

You need to witness this first hand and then maybe you will be educated on what
you are saying. You need to become a better human being.
understand how horrible your position is.

Original what? said:

“Davetheoriginal,
Nice comment: “Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.”

This is why you losers will always lose this fight. You have no compassion for the women who make these hard choices and are judgmental in addition. What happened to “judge not, lest ye be judged”?”

You see those things called quotation marks? I was responding to someone who said that to me.

I see the Christian equivalent of the Taliban is working overtime today.

Keep supporting the murdering of children. And you freaks wonder why we have become a more coarse society.

To Ooops -

Just for you – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ItPN9_79U

The “I SERVED IN VIETNAM” phrase is because he is ALWAYS reminding everyone.

Abortion should only be used in extreme cases, such as an ectopic pregnancy. There is no documentation anywhere, no testimony, no anything that would back the insane claim that pregnancy kills. Abortion is a coward’s way out of a difficult situation. There is always adoption, and it won’t cost you a penny.

A nation is judged by how they treat the most vulnerable and innocent.

Abortion is the intentional torture and murder of an innocent child, and I’m heartened that this woman has finally had her Road to Damascus. I hope, pray, and vote that death clinics like the concentration camps and abortion mills will be forever wiped out.

Good article, but these comments need to quit stereotyping. Not all democrats are pro-choice just as many republicans have had abortions.

Personally, since I do not know when ‘life’ begins – I assume it is at conception. Therefore, I cannot condone abortions since it is killing a life.

When I was young I assumed the responsibility of having sex. If we had gotten pregnant I would not support an abortion. Likewise, if my children have a pregnancy I hope they choose life. I will help them however I can.

Planned Parenthood and their liberal supporters have gotten away with murder by dehumanizing the unborn. Call it a “fetus”, close your eyes, and get rid of it. It’s time society dumps the double standard about life. It can’t be a “baby” if you want it and a “fetus” if you don’t.

And, to the blogger who doesn’t believe the woman’s assertion that, “They told her to get more abortions in the door,” — you are incredibly naive. Planned Parenthood has only two choices to offer its clients: (1) Adopt, (2) Abort. I, for one, would like to see the statistics on how many adoptions they process. Wouldn’t you?

This “Pro-Choice” argument is political balony. Babies are the result of sex. With all the sex education in this country, one would have to be an idiot not to know this. Apart from rape (which is not a significant contributor to the massive numbers of abortions done in this country) we can all decide whether or not to have sex and risk having a child. Furthermore, there is a massive birth-control industry whose purpose is to remove the “baby-risk” from sex. So don’t talk to me about choice. All women have a choice. Once the baby is there, the choice is made. Convenience killing sounds a lot like murder to me.

Sorry, Dave,
This is a copy of your comment:

CSR spouted:
“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.

You clearly have no compassion for the woman involved based upon your comment which was MY point. The second part of your comment was not in quotation marks. I was commenting on that. Would you like to restate your position?

Wonder where the ultrasound will be for the unwanted children abused in their homes? For the unwanted babies dumped in dumpsters? For the alcohol and drug-riddled fetuses growing in women unable or unwilling to nurture them? You can’t make women want to be good mothers. You can keep children from being born to women who don’t want them. God bless those of all opinions who are trying to make each child born a wanted child.

Good for her!!! This news gives such hope for this country. Sometimes I wonder why God would deliver us from this attack from Godless liberal leftist socialists. We have killed over 50 million souls. But if we turn and stop this holocust perhaps God will choose to stop this take over that is happening so quickly.

Hey Think again, Yet Again! You are so full of it. It’s the liberals who have the sheep mentality. It’s the liberals who all want to fall in line behind the Messiah, the Fearless Leader. It’s the liberals who want to live off the productive. Think for your self? You talk about Cheney and Iraq? 100 million people were exterminated in the 20th century by godless, athiestic, secular, “progressive” societies, and the extermination continues under the rubric of “Planned Parenthood”. We’ve thought about what you offer, we know what it is, we’ve seen it before and we don’t want any part of it. I hear Obama’s handing out the Kool Aid. Better get in line…Barak Hussein Obama…MMMMMM MMMMM MMMMM. Now, that’s thinking for yourself.

Hey John – guess what? I just got back from Iraq and I don’t remember anyone telling me to kill children. How can yo really compare myself and my buddies to these monsters that murder the unborn in cold blood? BTW the animals I was there to fight killed and are killing more women and children across the muslim world on purpose than any stray ordinace from an american ever will. Get a clue.

John 7:24 “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

True, it is not our decision to determine where a person’s moral compass points.
But it is our decision to determine where society’s moral compass points via laws which uphold morality.
And if a person breaks a law they should be punished.

That said, child abortion should be made illegal except in extreme cases,
affecting the life of the mother or rape or incest – when the mother had no choice in getting pregnant.

Planned Parenthood is currently subsidized with tax dollars, your tax dollars.
It’s a business attempting to make a profit off of killing innocent children.
Of course, Liberals are opposed to Big Business maknig a “profit.”
Unless of course, it’s a business like PP which donates large sums of money to the Democrat Party.

Hanoi John,
So? He served didn’t he? He is entitled to say so as often as he wants.

There are so many ways to prevent pregnancy in this day and age that abortion really should not be an option. It should be completely obsolete.

Both birth control and condoms are free at neighborhood clinics like Planned Parenthood, University/college campusus, and even some high schools w/ parent consent. The problem seems to be that no one is taking responsibility. While religious types may say that condoms and b.c. are against God, or goes against their religious values, they are forgetting that premarital sex also violates those same religious doctrines.

It is better to teach our youth about sex from a young age. Teach them about their options, teach them to be responsible with their own bodies. Women especially need to know how babies are made.

In college, my RA was impregnated because she did not know “how” babies were made. Her parents were ultra conservative types who never taught her this, and her naivety resulted in an unwanted pregnancy.

I started sex ed classes in the 4th grade. Every year until high school graduation, we had a class completely focused on reproduction, and also about STD’s, and the ways to prevent pregnancy and STD’s. We even had a special class for girls only where we learned about how to put on a condom, why we should wait for marriage, the effects of early pregnancy on our bodies, and the consequences and benefits of birth control.

It made a huge difference. Out of my friends in high school, only 1 has a child, and we’re all about 25 years old. Our teachers and parents took the time to explain sexuality and pregnancy and the consequences to us. It was the best gift we were ever given. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

We need to spread the world to young women across the world. You will never need to make this horrible “choice” if you take responsibility in the first place and use a condom or b.c. Think first. Act second.

If she truly has accepted Jesus as her savior(spiritual conversion) then she has been washed clean by the blood of Jesus and no longer has any blood on her hands. She is no longer guilty. She is free and other Christians should treat her as such.

Frank,
You and the Taliban have a lot in common. Why should everyone live under your moral umbrella?

So did I! -

I suggest you listen these guys about his service – http://www.SWIFTVETS.com – see the video.

Youtube is loaded with evidence of his LIES…from those who served with HONOR there, AND when they came home.

Libruls like to argue that life doesn’t begin at conception. Asked when does it begin? They answer at birth. How can there be growth from the instant of conception and all through pregnancy? And if that growth or “blob” or whatever, isn’t a living human, how then is it killed in abortions? You can’t kill something that isn’t living, right?

Therefore it must be alive, right?

Being alive means it has a LIFE! Which also means under the law that LIFE is protected, and any abortion of said life is MURDER!

This woman has finally come to realize the truth. Will the rest of those who support abortion? Keep praying for them!

Some abortion facts:

1. Approximately 50 MILLION abortions since 1973, in the USA.

2. Between 93-98% of all abortions are NOT for health (mother’s or child’s),
rape, or incest reasons. Between 93-98% of abortions are for BIRTH CONTROL
reasons.

3. Liberals and pro-abortion advocates HIDE behind the 2-7% of so called
“humanitarian” abortions (tell that to the unborn child you are killing him/her for
“humanitarian” purposes) to justify the 93-98% of BIRTH CONTROL purpose abortions.

4. 19 days after conception is a human beating heart.

5. 21 days after conception is human brain activity.

6. Abortion is NOT a “women’s rights” issue and NOT a religious issue (that
cowardly Catholic “pro-choice” politicians try to hide behind), but a HUMAN rights
issue.

7. Approximately 50% of all aborted babies are female. So much for their “women’s rights”.

8. Abortion is a VERY violent procedure that involves tearing the unborn child’s
body apart. It’s not peaceful in any way — it is absolutely BRUTAL.

9. Many of the “people” involved in the abortion industry make a LOT of MONEY.

10. The majority of Americans are against the 93-98% of abortions performed for
BIRTH CONTROL purposes.

To answer “So I was created by God to oppose those who claim to follow him? I could write 1000 pages of the philosophical and logical controversy that is the Bible. You might as well be quoting Dr. Seuss to those of us who aren’t already agreeing with you.”

You were created by God and for God to fulfill a purpose that only you can find and know. I don’t know your purpose but I do know that you were created by God.

To answer “So we should be afraid of God’s wrath? The coming of Jesus was supposed to be the shift in God’s tactics, when he stopped punishing directly and began loving instead. The idea that God would need to create Jesus to die in our world in order to save us is laughable. It’s hilarious how little theology is taught in Church. If you people actually knew the thought process behind what you were being brainwashed with… you’d have walked out immediately.”

Yes you should definately be afraid of God’s wrath. Since you obviously haven’t read the bible let me enlighten you. Jesus came and died for our sins. Those who accept Him have been saved and are under God’s protection. However you who are outside of Christ have NO protection. God did not say I will save all of mankind EVEN if they DON’T believe as you obviously do not. So your “theology” is incorrect because you have not read the bible but like to argue points you pick up on blogs are from other ignorant people such as yourself. There is no condemnation for those who are IN CHRIST. That is what God says. We are grafted into the vine but those who do not believe in Jesus as the son of God who came and died for your sins and mine are not in the vine and are therefore subject to God’s wrath. “We were not made for wrath” is what the bible says and the WE are those who BELIEVE. So go read revelation because it is coming and if you don’t turn around and get your head out of your rear end and bring your nose down a few notches and slap yourself in the face to shove the pride out of your body then you will be part of it and it will not be pretty. And then you have hell to look forward to after that. So I suggest you go talk to someone who knows what they are talking about.

When you are taking your last breaths what will you rely on? The blogs, your hate, your insecurities, your pride, anger, malice, love for self? What is it? Because I rely on God. I am not perfect and I sin just as we all do. I have moments of pride, selfishness and sin. But I turn to God. I can turn to Him because I believe in Him and He is always there for me. How easy it is to believe and how wonderful it is! Praise God always!!!!

Good for her. Welcome back from the dark side.
“..then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.” ~John 8:32.

To Larry Craig -

It’s always been tough for me to choose – http://www.crewclub.net

IT’S RAININ’ MEN…

So, I guess if you’re not a Christian AND a conservative, you’re a jerk. The Christians/Conservatives sure seem to have enough hate to go around. By the way, does that “love your enemies” (Matt. 5:44) thing still apply ?

the good news about abortion… it kills mostly democrats

It is the pro-abortion crowd that clings to old superstitions about “quickening” and “trimesters” in an effort to sell the lie that a baby is not being killed by this horrible act.

For 50 years now, science has shown us that, with its chromosomes and unique DNA, that cell is a human being from the moment of conception. Science supports the pro-life position.

Such a beautiful, redemptive story. Life is precious and sweet, and I hope she’ll be able to accomplish amazing things to advocate for the protection of innocent lives.

Liberals and Democrazis are living proof that aborted fetus can become a pain in the butt.

It’s like the mob. Once you’re in there’s no getting out…unless you want to be sued.

You funny little fetus freaks are going to reap what you sow. Soon women will
be performing home abortions because there will be no alternatives for them to
turn to. Hey, maybe you can supply them with free crucifixes to aid in their
self-abortion routine. It worked for Linda Blair.

How can Christians and the Taliban be compared?
“KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) – Thousands of people watched as a woman, cowering beneath a pale blue all-enveloping burqa, was shot and killed today in the first public execution of a woman in Kabul since the Taliban religious army took control three years ago.
The Taliban have imposed their harsh brand of Islamic law in the 90 percent of Afghanistan under their control. The Taliban say their version of Islam is a pure one that follows a literal interpretation of the Muslim holy book, The Koran.
Adulterers are stoned to death and the limbs of thieves are amputated. Lesser crimes are punished by public beatings. ”

Let’s see, Christians want to protect unborn babies, half if which are female I’m sure. The Taliban wants to kill women….I just don’t see the comparison. But I guess I can see how a mentally deranged liberal could.

I think that there is a niche market for John Edwards here. Since he can channel feti (or would it be fetuses) he can ask them if they want to be aborted. If they say yes, then PP gets the business. If the answer is no, then the mom will have to live with the consequences of her own actions and may have to start acting like an adult.

Pray for truth,
Try looking at the truth instead. If the fetus could survive outside of the womb then it is alive. If not, it is a growth no more “alive” than a tumor that is also growing tissue. The fact that it could evidentially grow into a kid is irrelevant if it is aborted before it can do so.

Plain and simple- try and follow along, you aborters: Life trumps choice.
God bless you, Abby. I hope you give others in your previous position the nerve to do the same.

God Bless this woman for following her conscience.

Never forget, the EVIL done by this U.S. Senator – http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/mjk.htm

And more than 40,000,000 BABIES who had their LIVES “LEGALLY” snuffed-out!

The LEFT always says “IT’S FOR THE CHILDREN”

While I’m careful with birth control, I appreciate having the option of terminating a pregnancy I do not want, should it ever occur. Have a lovely day.

I don’t knooooooooow, there’s plenty of blood on her hands… however, I’m glad that she finally came around to her senses. Look, let’s face it, killing is killing is killing, get it?

That is great news.

Planned Parenthood is worried about protecting the ‘reputation’ of its members, just not the lives of those completely innocent.

Guilt is really something.

Reading these comments caused me to analyze the generations back to the 1930s.We have come from high morals,respect for each other,narcotics unheard of,alcohol abuse by a few adaults,love of family and country,churches and neighbors helping the needy,with out being taught in schools it was practiced either “NO SEX” or “PROTECTED SEX”,nearly all children lived in a two parent home and a higher percentage of polititions representing the people rather than GREED.WITH ALL THESE CHANGES CAME “HAVE FUN” AND KILL THE BABY.

jbone,
The truth is that Republicans and conservative in particular get more than their share of abortions. They just don’t talk about it and admit it. The social stigma of an out of wedlock birth from fellow Jesus freaks is enough to drive a lot of these women over the edge to have one to keep their “fornicating” a secret. How many Suzie’s and Jane’s missed a year of school because of “mono”?

Abortion cannot be made illegal, agreed. But, it should not be so easy that a woman can walk in, have an abortion and walk out again. I couldn’t even get a vasectomy without going though counseling and then only with my wife’s permission.

My dog is pregnant, but she said she doesn’t want the puppies, so I am going to abort them for her!….Oh wait…you mean that I could just let some loving family adopt them? I don’t have to tear them into a bloody mess? That’s not fair! I wanted to choose! But what about all those puppies that never get adopted? Oh they get sold to tacobell for meat? Oh geez what am I to do?

james7560 November 2nd, 2009 – 1:10 pm

Isn’t Biden’s action plan calling for drone only attacks? Don’t drone attacks make the “collateral” damage even greater?

Why is the executive branch condoning these types of attacks james?

You Can’t spell LIBERALISM without L-I-E-S!

“I’d rather see a fetus terminated than a child abused and unloved.”

Great, so I suppose if a 1yr old child is being abused you’d rather they simply kill him/her to save future abuse? How about simply take them away from bad parents? Oh wait… That costs money and of course money is more important than a childs life right? Then there’s the next argument… Poor child will end up in a home if they aren’t adopted… how terrible! Ask those kids if they’d rather be dead… see what they say…

Our President has said that a woman who elects to have an abortion “is making the most difficult decision of her life”. How can it be a difficult decision if the fetus is not a human being?
Just because the “thing” is cut into 5 easy pieces for removal, doesnt mean that it is difficult.

Isn’t it ironic how ‘we’ spend billions of dollars over the years to discover “life on Mars” and define that life as a single cell organism, but when we’re talking a beating heart and brain activity in the womb, some dismiss it as being life?

“The truth will make you free.”

Notice how she says she feels clean & “pure” and guilt-free now. That’s what freedom feels like. What’s not to like? Notice how Planned Parenthood is not comfortable with the truth coming out. They cannot afford for the truth to come out, apparently. Life is winning! Thank you, 40 Days for Life participants!

VERY poor journalism… there is NOTHING in the story to support the headline. There is no mention of an ultrasound of an abortion procedure.

Typical lies and bs.

I am by far not a liberal. But jeez come on yes its so much better to bring in unwanted children because you know we dont need to feed them once they are born or anything. You hate welfare (as do i) but the simple fact is most unwanted babies that WOULD be aborted would most likely end up either homeless or on the public dole, that is the reason these women HAVE the abortions. And honestly what the heck do you care what some stranger does with their own body? It is none of your business and yea its nasty and ugly and a horrible thing but it is a fact of life and sometimes the hard decision is the right one. You want to rail against abortion thats fine, you can hate it as do i all you want, but i still believe in the right to go get one if the person decides its the best decision for themselves. Its none of my or YOUR business what someone else does in regards to their own body, until they can come up with fetal transplants and you all line up to take on the unwanted children you cant force someone to carry a child for 9 months or take care of it for 18 years. If you make abortion illegal you will see many women die and many more children get abandoned or killed after they are born and buried in back yards etc. You are going to do far more harm than good.

@Jenn: You said,”Aboration may be horrible, but so is forcing someone to give birth to an unwanted baby. I’d rather see a fetus terminated than a child abused and unloved.”

Your conclusion is very flawed. Does this mean you would personally prefer to be
murdered instead of being abused or unloved? Almost every adult has been abused/unloved
at some point in their life, it doesn’t mean that they would prefer to be killed
instead of being given the chance to overcome lifes obstacles.

Why no network has had the courage to have an hour long episode culminating in a live abortion is cowardly. If it is really an acceptable procedure it should be televised like so many other surgery and operation shows that run on A&E, TLC, and Discovery Channel. Fox Network should give liberals another reason to hate them by creating “The Abortion: One Hour Special”. Then wait for the angry libs to line up with charges of sensationalism and yellow-journalism while the rest of American lines up to collectively puke on Howard Zinn’s “People’s History of the United States”. We’ve seen endless anti-gun violence documentaries of television – many of them quite graphic. How come no abortion show? F*ckin’ cowards.

what an idiot. she has been put up to this in my opinion. keep killing the babies, there will always be idiot pro life people out there. its not there choice, but the patients.

John:
“Let’s have all prospective recruits for the U.S. military look at dead Iraqi children, too.”

Aawww isn’t that “fair” of you.
Fu#@ing liberals.. Changing the subject to win an argument..

‘But.. but.. but.. those evil American soldiers intentionally killing Iraqi children..’

And while you’re at it, show those same soldiers close up television shots of people dying and jumping out of the windows at The World Trade Center on 9/11.

And go ahead and show the dead burnt bodies of US soldiers hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

@Stepanie: You said: “While I’m careful with birth control, I appreciate having the option of terminating a pregnancy I do not want, should it ever occur. Have a lovely day.”

Thats nice. Just replace the words “terminate my unwanted pregnancy” to “sucking the brains out of my unborn childs skull” I feel that it just has a much better ring to it.
Also creates a better visual:)

Our high schools teach our kids how to put condoms on bananas- maybe the schools should also show the ultrasound. It just might cut down on teenagers getting abortions!

I just talked to God, he told me he’s a Democrat and he doesn’t know why Republicans are so hateful.

The “FIGHTING IRISH” DO NOT fight FOR LIFE! See their new fight song here – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jse_pjp64Cg

We will ban parental viewing of an ultrasound of thier unborn. Criminalize the act of watching your child die. “Problem” solved…your friendly US Government.

Note to Dave about the children in Gaza. Maybe you should mention the “mothers” in Gaza and other places in the middle east who a extremely proud to have their children strap on bombs and kill themselves and as many others as they can. They don’t discriminate where they are – they don’t clear the area of “non-combatants”.

There’s no comparison and your “point” is irrelevant, but typical of bigots.

For the record, I’m not religious at all (maybe there’s a god and maybe there isn’t – who knows?), and I believe abortion is murder. It’s a matter of science. So let me remind you trolling pro-choicers out there that your “choice” should be saying no to unprotected sex. And if you DO get pregnant, your choice is either take responsibility for your actions and raise the child or hand your unfortunate accident off to one of the many women and men out there who deparately wants to be a parent.

You idiots making the argument that we should let abortion stay legal, because
people will try to get them some other way, is absolute absurdity.
That’s like trying to say we should give child molesters some legally sancitoned
children because the altenative is that they’ll be forced to continue kidnapping.
Are you dense?

Good for you ma’am. Stand your ground and seek forgiveness in Christ
and he will give it to you. You just encouraged ohters to stand against govn’t
sancitoned infintacide.

The Christian loonies are coming out of the woodwork! Nothing excites this numbskull base more than, “they’re killing babies!”

I just had a comment not accepted that listed the changes from 1930 to today that contributed to the current mass murder of unborn and being born babies.Are we afraid or unable to handle the truth? Most comments are I like or don’t like political statrments,and no one says anything about the cause or cure of the problem.

I’m in favour of abortion in Republican districts only. Hopefully the Dems can get that passed.

Here’s my question: If ending ahuman being’s life is not “murder”, but merely a choice, then what exactly is “murder”? Is it murder to extinguish, by choice, a human life? If not, then why can I not murder the next person that cuts me off in traffic? There is no difference. Leftists are lying, and must to be able to look themselves in the mirror. They cannot accept the fact taht abortion is murder. The reason – they would then find themselves in the spot of defending murder. Though, by definition, that is exactly what is occurring, leftists dare not admit that fact. Which leads to the ultimate conslusion: to be a leftist, one either must be lying to themselves, or to everyone else. (”raising taxes provides jobs” – lie, “abortion isn’t murder” – lie, “illegal immigration costs us nothing” – lie, “Bush lied” – lie, “ACORN is a legitimate organization” – Lie, “Unions are good for employees and our country” – lie). Which is it?

original what said:

“Sorry, Dave,
This is a copy of your comment:

CSR spouted:
“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.

You clearly have no compassion for the woman involved based upon your comment which was MY point. The second part of your comment was not in quotation marks. I was commenting on that. Would you like to restate your position?”

What you were seeing is his quotation of me before I quoted him in return.

So you can follow along, sorry I can’t color it in for you:
CSR spouted:
QUOTATION>>>>>“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

Disastrous for whom? The woman? Tough.

It’s called Karma.”<<<<<ENDQUOTATION

MYRESPONSE:Should the child survive it causes enormous problems for them as well. Is that Karma? As for the woman, what if she is changed forever by the experience? What if she feels guilty afterwards and goes on to be the next mother Teresa?

I find all of your “welcome home” and God loves you comments very interesting. How many of you are now willing to take care of these “unwanted” babies? Where will you be placing them all if it weren’t for the choice that PP gives these women? Are you all now ready to let same-sex couples raise these children or would you prefer to lock them away till they are 18 in orphanages then you can complain how they are a drain on your tax dollars and the reason for higher crime rates.

ANNE CAN wrote, “When are women who have had abortions going to start to sue P. Parenthood for insufficient information.”

OH, GIVE US A BREAK! You and every other person on the planet KNOWS DAMNED WELL that an abortion is to REMOVE A FETUS. The REMOVAL obviously KILLS whatever life is in that fetus (WHICH IS THE INTENT OF ABORTION). There are ENOUGH WHINING CRYBABIES ON OUR PLANET RIGHT NOW, without encouraging women who have had abortions, for whatever reason, to GO INTO DENIAL AFTER THE FACT AND SEEK SOME KIND OF “JUSTICE” AND “COMPENSATION”!

FOR GOD’S SAKE, PEOPLE, GROW UP! Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, WE ALL KNOW THAT ABORTION ENDS THE POSSIBILITY OF A LIVE BABY. IF THAT’S NOT YOUR GOAL, DON’T ENGAGE IN ABORTION! AND WHILE WE’RE AT IT, IF YOU DON’T WANT A BABY, DON’T ENGAGE IN SEX, ESPECIALLY THE UNPROTECTED KIND!!!!

HERE’S THE ANSWER – THE FINAL WORD ON THE ABORTION DEBATE – YOU CANNOT DISAGREE WITH IT:
The answer is to take the issue out of the judiciary and put it in the legislature. Roe v. Wade reads like legislation – it invalidated abortion prohibitions in 50 states. Give the issue back to the legislatures – if, as in Britain, the gov’t legalizes abortions then at least people feel they have a say in the debate. But when an out of control judiciary takes it out of the hands of the PEOPLE then you have problems. Hey abortions proponents – why hasn’t Congress legalized abortion? You have to WORK to get legislation – judicial tyranny is just that. Hey abortion foes – why haven’t you been abele to change the constitution to outlaw abortion? Nobody wants to do the hard work to convince the PEOPLE you are rignt. What would happen if the US Supreme Court guaranteed the right to female circumcision on freedom to practice religion grounds? See how DANGEROUS it is to get a right by judicial fiat – you lose LIBERTY, and it may end up going where you don’t want it to go. So, people shut up for now and think about it!

For those pretending to care about dead Iraqi babies, perhaps you should review the fact that Hussein lead to about 1,000,000 dead Iraqis, many of which were babies. Bush saving future Iraqi babies and allowing them more freedom and a higher quality of life is something that Democrats hated the idea of. But they were ok with dead Iraqi babies as long as the USA did not try to help anyone anywhere.

ANNE CAN wrote, “When are women who have had abortions going to start to sue P. Parenthood for insufficient information.”

OH, GIVE US A BREAK! You and every other person on the planet KNOWS D@MNED WELL that an abortion is to REMOVE A FETUS. The REMOVAL obviously KILLS whatever life is in that fetus (WHICH IS THE INTENT OF ABORTION). There are ENOUGH WHINING CRYBABIES ON OUR PLANET RIGHT NOW, without encouraging women who have had abortions, for whatever reason, to GO INTO DENIAL AFTER THE FACT AND SEEK SOME KIND OF “JUSTICE” AND “COMPENSATION”!

FOR GOD’S SAKE, PEOPLE, GROW UP! Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, WE ALL KNOW THAT ABORTION ENDS THE POSSIBILITY OF A LIVE BABY. IF THAT’S NOT YOUR GOAL, DON’T ENGAGE IN ABORTION! AND WHILE WE’RE AT IT, IF YOU DON’T WANT A BABY, DON’T ENGAGE IN S*X, ESPECIALLY THE UNPROTECTED KIND!!!!

Psshh…. I’d bet a whole lot of you can look at footage of open heart surgery and feel the same level of disgust. Does that mean open heart surgery is bad? I think this lady is a mole planted by the Christian fascists to generate some positive PR in light of the recent murders and other acts of violence committed by their members. It certainly isn’t the first time that these fundamentalists have tried something like this (see evolution controversies).

notyourname,
You wrote, “And go ahead and show the dead burnt bodies of US soldiers hung from a bridge in Fallujah”.

They weren’t US soldiers. They were mercenaries from Blackwater–you know…like sewage.

Comments like the majority on here crack me up. Most of you posting would be first to say “Darn liberals and their wealth distribution! Why don’t they just give away all their money”…let me clue you hypocrits in on something. Don’t complain about OTHER people getting an abortion that does not effect YOU, unless you can look in the mirror and say I have done everything possible to make sure there are no children in orphanages. If everyone who is SO concerned about abortions, adopt children then I’m sure adoption would look like a better option. Otherwise, I agree with “jspicer”, do something proactive, don’t tell someone else what they should do.

It is apparent by reading these comments that many of you are buying into partisanship and the stereotypes of the opposite sides: Republicans are bible thumping conservatives that hate everyone not white and christian and their politicians are evil. Democrats are idealist hippies that want nothing more than the destruction of the church while simultaneously pushing america towards socialism.

There is truth to both in the case of extremists but the vast majority of people lie in the middle and their most inflammatory partisanship is brought out in response to blanket terminology such as “democrats will burn in hell”

This is how politicians want it. They have more control the more we are divided as a nation. Unite under what we all commonly want and think about things rationally. Stop associating yourself with any larger group because you will inevitably be misrepresented. Stop playing their games and we can bring about the change all of us want, regardless of political alignment.

Liar liberal approach number 5, pretend that babies that are allowed to live will all have miserable lives. Here is one such bizarre little selfish dweeb making that idiotic and selfish claim …

jspicer November 2nd, 2009 – 2:44 pm
I am by far not a liberal. But jeez come on yes its so much better to bring in unwanted children because you know we dont need to feed them once they are born or anything. You hate welfare (as do i) but the simple fact is most unwanted babies that WOULD be aborted would most likely end up either homeless or on the public dole.

How about a real solution, jspicer, you ignorant SOB, how about you teach the daddies (many black especially) to take care of the young that they produce, and that you teach the mommies to be responsible individuals, and then, jspicer, you moronic dweeb, how about you teach the kids to become individually responsible for their own lives once they are born.

But then you have the god damned selfish solution that liberals propose, JUST KILL THEM AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT IT.

jspicer, you are a complete and utter moron.

Does anyone own a mirror ?

“Planned Parenthood”…isn’t that an oxymoron??? Shouldn’t be more like “Planned Abortion”? I mean, really, who goes in there for counselling on whether or not to deliver a child…and if they do what is the percentage that comes out WITHOUT getting an abortion?

The first and biggest mistake Americans made in the culture (of death) war was the acceptance of Abortion as akin to a ‘woman’s choice’ (no different from a woman choosing: should I wear a skirt, a dress, or a pair of pants today).

The mainstream Protestant churches and the Protestant church leaders had Nothing to say against abortion, their preachers were silent except to parrot the line that abortion = choice.

Finally the public (and women who were victims of abortion and the abortion philosophy) created enough pressure to cause the Protestant churches to join their Catholic brothers in recognizing the fraud that is abortion and the big business that surrounds and lives off the death culture, and beating the drums against it.

Today the majority of Americans recognize abortion is death. Simple as that. But there are powers greater than the majority who relish blood and guts and dead children.

They are the reason abortion still is ’safe and legal’.

jeremy November 2nd, 2009 – 1:04 pm
kmichaels, most women who have abortions identify with Christianity as their religion. 30% of women who have abortions are Catholics. Are they ALL liberals? Of course not. Why parrots such as yourself consider abortion a liberal thing speaks volumes of your indoctrination.

…

Since the vast majority of US citizens are born Christian then most anything anyone does in the USA will be done by somebody that was born Christian. However, much like Obama, Biden, Hillary, etc prove, you can call yourself Christian for political gain but it does not make you a true Christian.

And the reason that Abortion is laid on the doorsteps of you ignorant liberals is that it is you and your political persuasion that promotes it, promotes steps that lead up to it and that demonize anyone trying to stop it. That is why liberals do indeed own the sin of abortion here in the USA.

Just for fun, read up on the bizarre thinking process of the founding mothers and founding fathers of planned parenthood. It was done by Democrats, Liberals, usually those that openly hated blacks. They generally had a communistic socialistic marxist slant to them and were pretty much worthless self-serving subhuman types of individuals.

Good for her! I’m with her all the way as she takes heat and prosecution for doing the right thing. I hope others will be inspired by her brave move.

Good Bless her!

Call it what it is, planned baby killers.

Man women are selfish these days. Murder you baby as a matter of convenience
and then try to act all upset when you see some animal killed.

The guys are even worse. The only reason you guys support abortion is so you
can have all the sex you want with no responsibilty.

Then you both try to act all ‘deep’ like there’s something real spiritual
and enlightening about murdering a child.

Just WHAT exactly did Abby think abortion was about that it took her eight years until an ultrasound image of a fetus having it’s life snuffed out for her to understand? She never conceptualized that image in her mental landscape all of those years?

Please, Abby, you’re very disingenuous, PP has always been focused on abortions above all else. It’s been synonymous with where you go to get one for decades. You had to know that!

Some may feel she’s a hero, I find her a utterly vacuous.

I would guess that in all truthfullness, that at least 80% of abortions are no more than birth control for the lazy and irresponsible.

@Jenn: You said,”Aboration may be horrible, but so is forcing someone to give birth to an unwanted baby. I’d rather see a fetus terminated than a child abused and unloved.”

Your conclusion is sound. I agree with you completely.

Also
What a bunch of fanatic psychos on this board
Yeesh

It does get very tiresome to see the amount of people here who like to overgeneralize liberals and call them names then back it up with a Bible quote. Who are you to call someone a baby killer? Didn’t Christ also say “If you call someone an idiot, you’re in danger of the fires of hell”? I consider myself liberal, but I don’t support abortion. I suggest you all stop generalizing.

Stopping abortion, as I’ve said before, won’t stop anything. It’ll just make things worse. I’d like to see both sides seek an alternative solution like improving the adoption system. AND I’d like to see everyone who claims to be anti-abortion who can afford it too, instead of having endless children, to adopt at least one child. And I don’t mean wait in line for that perfect, white baby. I mean adopt a minority, adopt a teenager, adopt a handicapped child.

The hypocrisy surrounding abortion is absurd on BOTH sides. At the very least, people who are “pro-choice” admit abortion is wrong. I’ve never met someone who I would consider sane say that abortion is a-okay. No. Most pro-choice people I know understand that abortion is horrible and shouldn’t exist. They just don’t see any other solution. Whereas pro-life (or at least the majority) point fingers, call names, but they themselves do nothing to try to fix the problem except make it illegal. And that would be like making guns illegal – it would be so nice if it were possible but in the end it will just be more painful. And believe me, I would love to see both made illegal but I have enough sense to know you can’t just make things illegal.

@kmicheals – That was great. I don’ think that you can blame libs for sex – but it was worth a shot. If anything it’s those damn libs trying to push sex ed in the classroom that teaches kids how to take care of themselves and how to have SAFE SEX, you know the kind that prevents STDs, HIV and making babies. I know you want to leave it up the parents to teach them about all that but as we have seen with GOP poster child Palin, that does not really work very well.

“At least people who are pro-choice admit abortion is wrong??????????”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What kind of a moronic statment is that?

That’s like saying, Well, at least gangsters admit killing is wrong.

HAHAHAHA!

Think before you crap.

Life is always preferable to death-even for a few minutes! Abortion(murder) is always the wrong choice- always-always-always! Abuse and meaness is always wrong but fixable while you are alive- hence better than murder (abortion) Give it up- coat hangars and killing is a mess and only can be done by living people- if they die by their coat hangar attacks so what? They are murderers commiting suicide- who cares? Try abstinence- birth control-diaphgrams? (spelling) The morning after pills- how many ways can you keep from getting pregnant? Yet murder is what the answer should be- puhleeze- a baby being born is never wrong- a baby being aborted(murdered) is always wrong– ciao!!

I am 36 and have used a form of birth control or abstinence all my life but if I DID accidentally get pregnant, I would have an abortion in a second and THAT IS MY RIGHT! Until I see all you bible thumping hypocrites out there start adopting all those unwanted crack babies with health problems and behavioral disorders (which is what a large portion of these fetuses would turn out to be) I don’t want to hear it. This planet is entirely over populated as it is with you soccer moms and dads with 3,4 and 5 spoiled brats in your minivan. Pollution is out of control and you people think MORE PEOPLE is a good idea? HA! And for those of you foolish enough to believe in “God” and “Hell” in places where I guess they don’t teach Science…from the mouth of one of the smartest people alive:

“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.”

“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”
Richard Dawkins

Now go forth and worry about your OWN reproductive lives!

Jenn – “I’d rather see a fetus terminated than a child abused and unloved.”

Jenn, I can say with 100% certainty that you don’t know anyone who has tried to adobt a baby in the U.S.

Finding a family to adopt a healthy baby in the U.S. is as hard as giving away a brand new corvette.

Do you have any friends or family members who have had a baby recently? Notice how much security there is now? I was more impressed with the security at the hospital where my kids were born than at my bank or the jewelry store where I bought my wife’s diamond ring.

Sorry, but the arguement that you can’t find a baby a good home is like argueing the ocean isn’t very wet.

james7560 November 2nd, 2009 – 1:10 pm
It’s great this woman is a convert, but all these purported Christians should pray to stop killing civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq by our own troops. Yes, they are accidentally killed when going after people who no longer want us in their country, but after seven plus years of dropping bombs, you can’t say “oops” anymore. Isn’t there a commandment for Christians about “Thou shalt not kill,”? Or is that commandment left open for interpretation?

You are so right james7560, we should just let evil people kill them by the millions instead of trying to defend them. You are such an ignorant putz.

If someone shoots and kills a pregnant woman, why are they charged with two murders? If a woman wants to have the baby and someone gives her an abortion pill, is that murder? Can someone get away with that? The fetus is only a living thing if the mother wants it? Either someone can get away with killing the fetus that you are carrying and WANT because it is not “alive” or someone is murdering the fetus when it is being aborted. Where is the science and logic in all of this? You can’t have it both ways and claim to be rational.

This is what we are fighting for. What is the best way to fight? With kindness.

Dee – “Until I see all you bible thumping hypocrites out there start adopting all those unwanted crack babies with health problems and behavioral disorders (which is what a large portion of these fetuses would turn out to be) I don’t want to hear it.”

Dee obviously has no clue about who has abortions. She apparently thinks it’s just the druggies. But she apparently doesn’t want to hear how ignorant she is.

LOL

The rational on this post is S-T-A-G-G-E-R-I-N-G.

Making the point that it’s GOOD that abortion is ’safe and legal’ is like saying
we should make child molestation legal so that molesters won’t be forced
to do something worse than simply molest. Instead we’ll create a safe and legal
environment so they can go about their perversions feeling better about themselves.

I could definitley see some liberal politican promote that………YEP.

America…the killing of the young in the wombs of their mothers is MURDER!

It is the taking of a life…and if you are a Christian, you should know that the Almighty GOD does not condone the taking of another life except in defense!

Why do you think Planned Parenthood has blocked repeatedly the showing of abortions around the country to the public in advertisements! Because if “real” America saw how barbaric the killing of babies in the womb was, they would be against it totally!

Do you know how partial birth abortion is performed?

They pull the baby out by the legs and leave the head in the womb…if they brought it completely out and aborted it…it would be considered murdered and prosecuted as such.

But they leave the head in the womb and with medical scissors they cut the back of the neck and suck out the brains of that baby…and then pull it out of the womb and they call it mercy!

Did you kill your baby that way? That baby is going to stand before you one day and give an accounting of the life they never had the opportunity to live.

They will tell of GOD’s mercy rescued them and brought them to HIM to live with HIM forever!

GOD help America and all who participate in this taking of GOD’s innocent miracles of creation!

We kill our young in the wombs and yet procreate through a test tube!

America…that is so twisted and perverted one cannot even find the words to describe such people!

America…we live in a land where people in Hollywood would do anything to protect an innocent animal (and they should) but who do not blink an eyelash to abort their young!

America…has gone mad and there is only one way back to sanity!

Our Christian GOD in our Christian nation tells us how in Holy Scripture…

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“when my people, who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and ask forgiveness for their sin…then will I come and heal their land”!

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America…we need a healing! We need to follow GOD’s words to heal our land and our lives!

Plain and simple…America…we have thrown GOD out of our schools, our homes and our lives.

GOD is a Holy and righteous creator…he cannot…he does not abide with sin!

He turns his head away from us…when we sin…but HE is always there to forgive that sin no matter what it was!

Thank goodness, that this one member of Planned Parenthood saw enough, heard enough, participated enough to realize what they were doing was wrong…was sin…was murder!

How about you?

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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!

1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED

DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!

IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!

PETER, how do you know what they turn out to be if they’re never born?………
……………..that creates quite a paradox for me.

Peter,

I am not a druggie…I am a professional working woman with a career and I am sure that many educated working women just like me have abortions but that is NOT the majority. I’m not ignorant whatsoever and if you want me to HEAR it…bring it on oh wise one. I’d love to hear it from a MAN who has no say what women do with their own bodies anyway.

kmichaels “It’s great this woman is a convert, but all these purported Christians should pray to stop killing civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq by our own troops. Yes, they are accidentally killed when going after people who no longer want us in their country, but after seven plus years of dropping bombs, you can’t say “oops” anymore.”

I’m curious if you believe that about all wars? Do you belief we should have allowed Hitler to roll across Europe so that we didn’t accidentally kill any German babies?

I’d say it’s pretty basic that kindness starts with……………….
……….NOT murdering a child.

But that’s just me.

so many hate filled christians….

Ironic that in order to have the right to choose one has to be alive in the first place.

This is a Godsend on All Souls Day!

Yeah, …………all us baby loving, hateful Christians are so terrible.

To Peter and all the rest of you self righteous jerks,
Why don’t you go to a Planned Parenthood clinic in your area and offer to pay for all the medical bills, feeding, clothing, and education for the unborn of one of those women who are seeking an abortion? Maybe then she wouldn’t have one.

This just goes to show “hope springs eternal.” What a refreshing story.

In Obama’s case, I could have seen my way clear to just ONE MORE abortion!

Ooops! Do what?, maybe if the woman thought about the cost to begin with
she might have kept her own legs closed and said to herself “You know, maybe
I’ll put a human life before my own desire for sexual pleasure tonight”

Just a thought.

Liberals are diabolically EVIL. Wicked hypocrites with no ability to render sound judgement.

The stupid, inane argument about “not making abortions illegal, because it would be done anyway, with dire consequences” is a whining liberal panty-wearing excuse. There IS dire consequences, to the baby…who is DEAD after the procedure. Call it a fetus, non-entity or whatever salves your mind, but what was once living is, after the procedure DEAD. Don’t hurt the toady frogs in the rain forests, but it’s fine to have a baby partially born and skewer it’s skull with a needle and scramble it’s brain…but PLEEEASE don’t hurt the toady frog.

Freedom to choose? Sure, but choice begins at the bedroom door. After that, the choice is made and it’s time for RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. And can that worn out nonsense about incest and rape; it’s nonsense and accounts for LESS than 1% of all pregnancies.

Try being responsible. When you have sex, a CHILD can result. If you’re too stupid to figure that out, then you’re far to STUPID to have sex.

Lastly, if you’re too STUPID to earn enough money to feed yourself and put a roof over your head, you’re too STUPID to have children. That goes for food stampers and people living in government funded housing…which, by the way, should NOT have cable tv…if you can afford tv, pay your own damn rent…and anyone caught smoking cigarettes in TAXPAYER funded housing should be kicked out. If you can afford to smoke, PAY YOUR OWN RENT.

God bless whoever showed her the video, which, by the way, should be played every morning and evening on all TV channels at prime time, and in all movie theaters during the previews. That, my friends, would produce the right kind of hope and change. I hope PP suffers big time because of this, and that others would follow in this woman’s footsteps. I’d also like to see the court situation backfire on PP by waking many others up to the sobering reality that abortion is the murder of our most innocent ones.

Liberals are promoting 50 million plus abortions, dead human babies, and are calling Christians who promote life over death the Taliban. As soon as you can show that we actually promote killing innocent kids, to the tune of 50 million of them, liberal trolls and fools, then we can talk.

Babies deserve to live regardless of how bad their life will be. The mother, who has to actually be conscious and deal with all of it, is a minion of the devil who deserves to die from a botched coat hanger operation. I mean… what would jesus do? I think he’d kick a gay man in the face and spit on people going into the abortion clinic.

Thank God this woman saw the light. If her actions saved the life of one child it was worth it. Planned Parenthood is a business. Instead of selling cars or burgers, they sell death to the unborn.

My goodness some of the people on here are playing in the lap of the devil with such hatred. Such words, it is a shame.

And please stop comparing abortion to war…In abortion, one side is COMPLETELY helpless.

can we just abort all the red states?

Dee – “I am not a druggie…I am a professional working woman with a career and I am sure that many educated working women just like me have abortions but that is NOT the majority. I’m not ignorant whatsoever and if you want me to HEAR it…bring it on oh wise one. I’d love to hear it from a MAN who has no say what women do with their own bodies anyway.”

Dee, why do you so persist to show your ignorance?

From Forbes ( http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/1018/6410110a.html ) – “EVERY YEAR ABOUT 2% OF U.S. WOMEN AGED 15 TO 44 have an abortion. The rate has been declining since 1980, when it was almost 3% . But, based on 1992 data, an estimated 43% of women now of childbearing age will have had at least one abortion by the time they are 45 years old.”

So Dee, are you saying that 43% of women are on drugs and will give birth to crack babies?

Liberal stupid thought number three: “If you won’t adopt all of these babies yourself then it is better that we go on murdering millions of them.” This is how the diseased liberal mind operates. Not very well is it? Sort of a bizarre sense of justice and logic don’t you think? We will continue murdering millions of human babies because we know of some Christian families that have not adopted kids before. Well, that sure sets everything in perspective doesn’t it? How about the fact that crack babies account for less than 1% of all aborted babies but somehow since people are not too anxious to adopt a sick baby then we should kill the 99% of other millions of human babies. Liberals don’t think, they just blow hot air.

Just to educate some of you.

You don’t fall down and accidently have intercourse, like getting your chocolate
in someones peanut butter.

That’s not the way it works.

You have sex and nine months later (drum roll) a baby!

It’s simple cause and effect. Some of you seemed confused.

Idiot Peter is saying that because some babies get accidentally killed in wars then his liberal brethren should go on killing millions of babies on purpose. Peter, like most liberals, does not have a single functioning brain cell in his idiot head.

Freedom to choose that is your right! I will not pay for it, but will support and love you, not your decision, but this decision should be made from the wealth of information and opportunities to adopt that are out there! Planned Parenthood does not want this information to be released. It will cut into there numbers and profits. It will also create compassion on the part of the mothers that so choose to abort, the left would rather keep the mothers and the fathers scared and desperate! And, with this community quilt use them for there own power, this is the result of this in-moral conditioning that the left perpetuates! It should anger community leaders and the Men of our communities that our children and our future generations are being destroyed for the sake of power. These very people that espouse such freedoms of choice will do more to save cats and dogs than to save fellow human beings. This kind of action against the innocence of everything to be human is what makes my heart cry deeper than any pain I have ever suffered. I have suffered as many of us do here on Earth. I have been sexually abused when I was an infant, I have been physically and psychologically abused. I had a troubled marriage that gave the world 3 beautiful girls, that I love dearly. I have come out the other side and now have a good man in my life and have peace. Everyone deserves such happiness and a chance for it! No one has the right to take that choice away from someone, but to never allow the chance for the unborn to attain its own freedom here on Earth and share the trials and tribulations we all are granted is the most sad! I pray for all those not born to be given again to us and allow us to change what was done! With love I give freely!

Saying our troops are murdering babies is like saying if I pushed my kid into
traffic and somebody hits him, that makes the driver the murderer.

Did you guys attend ANY learning institution?

Killing the baby in my own body is my business. But somehow, after they are born, they are no longer part of my own body, even though they were actually never part of my own body, I get to murder them when they are at the most helpless, inside of my body. Liberals are such diseased bizarre twits and there is no changing their monstrous behavior.

Hey Dee, so location of where the murder takes place makes it justifiable to you, eh? What a complete and utter moron you are.

Why is it the devils that push abortion say that these aborted children would be unloved or abused?
Oh yeah, it’s because they’re devils.

Think about WHY abortion is a religion for these miscreants.
It’s the culture of death.

Ooops! Do what? November 2nd, 2009 – 3:41 pm
To Peter and all the rest of you self righteous jerks,
Why don’t you go to a Planned Parenthood clinic in your area and offer to pay for all the medical bills, feeding, clothing, and education for the unborn of one of those women who are seeking an abortion? Maybe then she wouldn’t have one.

I’ll tell you what Ooops, why don’t you direct any mother who wouldn’t like to keep her baby to me. I’ll find (in less than an hour) a set of parents who will pay all of her medical expenses and costs of living. Finding a home for a relatively healthy baby is as hard as giving away a new corvette. You OBVIOUSLY never knew anybody who tried to adopt?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-10-russia-adoptions_N.htm – Those three countries account for 70% of the orphans who have come to the United States in the past five years — about 10% of all U.S. adoptions.

Sorry, but when we’re importing 4,000 babies a year from Russia to adopt here in the U.S., I think it’s safe to say, we have a major baby shortage.

Woe unto those that call good evil and evil good, that call night day and day night.

Liberals getting things arse backwards pretty much meets and qualifies for the
above warning.

Dee,

Excuse me if I do not bow before Richard Dawkins. Apparently he is not a fan of religion. I’m not sure why you need to use someone else’s opinion as a substitute for your own. It sounds like you have a lot of “faith” in him. Perhaps you “follow” him. I’m just not sure what religion has to do with the video, unless you have latent hostility to religion. By the way, most of the great Western thinkers of the past 1000 have been devout Christians (productive men who would make your Richard Dawkins seem a mental midget, men who have improved the world).

So, apparently someone who was in the abortion business finally confronted the reality and mechanics of killing a baby. And now they are in legal trouble if they try to share their story. That doesn’t bother you? It’s not like there are any trade secrets to protect from competitors.

Where would you pro-abortion people draw the line? At 20 weeks? At 25 weeks? At 36 weeks? At what point in that process does a “fetus” become a “baby?” That line is crossed at some point. You’ll never answer that simple question because it betrays the illogic of your stance. You want someone else to make that decision and you have “faith” that they will choose correctly.

Dee is an awfully empty person. And alot of “bible thumpers” have adopted crack babies. You dope.

Dee,
You obviously ain’t a Gawd-furin’ Amurican like the res’ of us’n Christians am! Mah flag is bigger’n your’n!

No that’s not what I am saying. However, it’s a hell of a lot easier to keep popping out babies when you’re living on the government dole, in government paid housing with food stamps and being rewarded with more MONEY for every unwanted baby you spit out. The rest of us who WORK for a living and can barely keep a roof over our own heads don’t always have that luxury. That’s what birth control is for but I am glad I have an option should something ever go wrong.

Let me ask you Peter, have you ever been to India? How about South Africa? Have you ever been in a third world slum? Have you ever seem a teenage girl pregnant from the rape of her father, or brother or uncle? Well I have seen it and maybe you would feel differently about unnecessary poverty and suffering and an exploding population if you got off your self riotous ass and volunteered for something bigger than yourself. Are these kids better off never having been born? YES THEY ARE!

Get a clue, sister. You were not suited for your job. Get out of our hair.

Sorry Peter, I misread one of your posts. It was the other poster suggesting that babies killed in war accidentally by the USA somehow were the same as babies being killed through planned abortion.

kmichaels, do you have a functioning brain cell? Let’s put this to the test. Read the next paragraph and tell me if I am calling myself an idiot or if I am quoting you. Once you figure out that I’m quoting you, why don’t you go back up and read my posts again. When you read somebody else’s name followed by what they said and I’m responding to, you know in quotes, you may realize something.

kmichaels – “Idiot Peter is saying that because some babies get accidentally killed in wars then his liberal brethren should go on killing millions of babies on purpose. Peter, like most liberals, does not have a single functioning brain cell in his idiot head.”

Dee would be ok with killing toddlers in her bedroom if somebody persuaded her that it was legal. These sort of heartless people have no real soul to speak of. They are in life just for themselves and as long as killing a human child makes her life more convenient then she will be all for it.

“If anything it’s those damn libs trying to push sex ed in the classroom that teaches kids how to take care of themselves..”

Yyeeeahhh How’s that working out?

Okay, fair enough, let’s teach sex-ed and show the consequences of their actions, instead of just teaching how you can get away with it. Go ahead and show the banana on a c0nd0m. Then show herpes, syphilis, aids and all the other bad things that could happen from risky behavior, INCLUDING THE ULTRASOUND OF A BABY BEING ABORTED.

Why not?

Libs have pushed for sex everywhere, not just “sex-ed”. If it feels good do it, right? Look what our society has become:

Selling c0<k pumps, f!nger v!brat0rs and sexual enhancers (you know, for that certain part of a man) on television during dinner time!!? Even family shows have sexual content buried just beneath the surface, as well as some cartoons on the same channels intended for little kids. There is no innocence in a liberal world.

Good for her! Yes, she had a spiritual event. If she hasn’t already, she will soon meet the one true God, for it sounds as if she has truly repented. Abortion is one of the many noxious tentacles of Mystery Babylon which now rules the world, but whose time is limited and short. Read more at http://zedek.us/?page_id=386

@Dee “if I DID accidentally get pregnant, I would have an abortion in a second and
THAT IS MY RIGHT! Until I see all you bible thumping hypocrites out there start
adopting all those unwanted crack babies with health problems and behavioral
disorders (which is what a large portion of these fetuses would turn out to be)
I don’t want to hear it.”

So does this mean if you accidentally got pregnant it would be a crack baby with a
health problems and a behavioral disorder? I don’t think it would, don’t assume that
most babies aborted would be so.

Believe what you want here on this earth, quote one of the “smartest men alive” Mr.
Richard Dawkins.
You might believe our faith in God is silly now, but one day you will believe too.
Everyone will….

Christianity is the one faith where more blood has been shed, and people have been
martyred than any other faith in the history of mankind. This many people do not
lay down there lives for a “cop out”.

Hearing of this story and how she is being manipulated by Planned Parenthood, reminds me again of how our “sisters” in the press manipulate and don’t tell the truth to each other. For example: all those pink ribbons honoring women who have had breast cancer, are put out by the Susan G. Komen Foundation. Did you realize that that Foundation supports Planned Parenthood? Did you realize despite what all those “women” magazines tell you that there is a real documented link between breast cancer and abortion? Why is that information not told to us?

Actually Peter, you were not quoting me, you were quoting a liberal that was saying something against me. Then I misread your post, since it looked like you were going against me. So calm down, I made a mistake, but you made one first.

There are women out there that have 8 abortions or more, I know one. Imagine dating one of these human pieces of garbage without ever knowing they are a “Serial Killer”!!!

I find it amusing that you assume I have not read the bible. I was born and raised baptist my friend. I believed all the way up until I studied the history of the Bible, the Bible itself, and theology. I’m not going to attempt to convince you of my side. Read all of it for yourself and draw your own conclusions. Just don’t try to force everyone else to do what you think they should.

People completely believe in Nostradmus too. Can you imagine how horrible it would be if those people ran the country? Hence the separation between church and state.

I’m also quite sure that while the Christians were slaughtering millions of Pagans, they didn’t leave the pregnant women and children out of it. Oh but abortion…now that’s just wrong.

kmichaels,
You have the nerve to call out liberals for getting things “arse backwards” when you have continuously done so on this site. Your comment: “Liberals are promoting 50 million plus abortions, dead human babies, and are calling Christians who promote life over death the Taliban. As soon as you can show that we actually promote killing innocent kids, to the tune of 50 million of them, liberal trolls and fools, then we can talk”, is just such an illustration. The connection to you and the Taliban is one of an extreme religious organization seeking to impose its will over the population. Banning abortion is simply a venue by which you choose to do so. Once you achieve that, you will proceed with another cause du jour.

heyguy101 November 2nd, 2009 – 3:22 pm
@kmicheals – That was great. I don’ think that you can blame libs for sex – but it was worth a shot. If anything it’s those damn libs trying to push sex ed in the classroom that teaches kids how to take care of themselves and how to have SAFE SEX, you know the kind that prevents STDs, HIV and making babies. I know you want to leave it up the parents to teach them about all that but as we have seen with GOP poster child Palin, that does not really work very well.

Since 99% of the gals getting pregnant were taught about your safe sex in school then we have to conclude that your teaching them about safe sex is even less successful than Palin’s plan. Had her daughter practiced abstention then she would not have gotten pregnant. Had she practiced safe sex, then the likelyhood of her getting pregnant was drastically larger than practicing abstention. However, it has nothing to do with what is taught in school. Schools teach people how to think yet liberals, having gone to school, still can’t seem to think very well.

It’s amazing how transparent all the libs are. They constantly whine about why Christians are haters, conservatives are haters, we ‘re not true Christians- they can’t seem to handle the argument, as usual. they have to go off on silly tangents to stand for their side.
I haven’t heard one person say anything hateful, except to call the libs idiots- another argument they can’t deny.
We hate the act of killing babies- we hate that libs don’t get it. We hate the thought of another perfect creation being so violently murdered.
Stick to the issue, libs- do you want babies killed, can you really justify the killing of babies?
If you stuck to the issue, this would be a really short blog.

“The connection to you and the Taliban is one of an extreme religious organization seeking to impose its will over the population.”

You mean that wanting people not to murder other people is a bad idea of imposing our will on the population. I guess if you are that bizarre of a dark-minded soul-less gutless little fellow then yes, I want to impose my will on the entire population of making murder illegal. So sue me, you stupid sh$t.

“Banning abortion is simply a venue by which you choose to do so.”

Yes, we evil Taliban want to ban murder of all sorts. That makes us evil and and it makes liberals that want to support free and open murder good people. That was my point, you moron liberals get everything arse backwards.

Dee,

When did Christians slaughter “millions of pagans?” The number of people killed in wars of Christians versus pagans is very small. Too many to be sure, but still small, especially compared to the numbers killed by atheists. In fact the atheists have killed thousands to every one killed by Christians. And yet you support the nobility of atheists and you support abortion. Kind of makes sense…

So, Jeff, how many of those pregnancies were yours?

Gee, no wonder Planned Parenthood hates ultrasounds and graphic photos at prolife rallies. It reveals the truth of their heinous support for this brutal and unnatural practice of aborting human babies.

Cowards like the darkness and people to be ignorant of truth.

heyguy101 November 2nd, 2009 – 3:22 pm
@kmicheals – That was great. I don’ think that you can blame libs for s-ex – but it was worth a shot. If anything it’s those damn libs trying to push se-x ed in the classroom that teaches kids how to take care of themselves and how to have SAFE S-EX, you know the kind that prevents STDs, HIV and making babies. I know you want to leave it up the parents to teach them about all that but as we have seen with GOP poster child Palin, that does not really work very well.

Since 99% of the gals getting pregnant were taught about your safe sex in school then we have to conclude that your teaching them about safe se-x is even less successful than Palin’s plan. Had her daughter practiced abstention then she would not have gotten pregnant. Had she practiced safe s-ex, then the likelyhood of her getting pregnant was drastically larger than practicing abstention. However, it has nothing to do with what is taught in school. Schools teach people how to think yet liberals, having gone to school, still can’t seem to think very well.

BTW, heyguy, me blaming liberals for supporting abortion has nothing to do with blaming them for having se-x. You cant seem to read.

“So shines a good deed in a weary world”….W. Shakespeare

kmichaels,
Removing something the size of a lima bean is murder only to fanatics like you. That is why you are like the Taliban…no opinion counts but your’s.

Idiot leftist thought number seven: “The connection to you and the Taliban is one of an extreme religious organization seeking to impose its will over the population.”

Abortion was always a state issue. Those imposing their will upon others was leftists that wanted to make abortion a forced issue for the entire USA. Similar to liberals that want to impose their arse backwards socialistic medicine upon the entire nation. So if forcing one’s will makes people the Taliban then you liberals sure in hell look more like the Taliban, since you want to FORCE social medicine, FORCE your idea of ABORTION onto every state, FORCE the redistribution of wealth, etc. Not to mention you morons wanting to FORCE your idiotic view of global warming onto everyone. FORCE is the way of liberals to be certain.

Drop dead, the size of a human baby does not make it less of an issue, you selfish piece of sh$t.

Watch out for her, this could be a total scam!

Teaching safe s-e-x in schools fails far more frequently then actually adhering to abstinence. Just thought you should know.

One more try to post this:

“If anything it’s those damn libs trying to push s e x ed in the classroom that teaches kids how to take care of themselves..”

Yyeeeahhh How’s that working out?

Okay, fair enough, let’s teach s e x-ed and show the consequences of their actions, instead of just teaching how you can get away with it. Go ahead and show the banana on a c0nd0m. Then show herpes, syphilis, aids and all the other bad things that could happen from risky behavior, INCLUDING THE ULTRASOUND OF A BABY BEING ABORTED.

Why not?

Libs have pushed for s e x everywhere, not just “s e x-ed”. If it feels good do it, right? Look what our society has become:

Selling c0<k pumps, f!nger v!brat0rs and s e x-ual enhancers (you know, for that certain part of a man) on television during dinner time!!? Even family shows have s e x-ual content buried just beneath the surface, as well as some cartoons on the same channels intended for little kids. There is no innocence in a liberal world.

Drop dead!

At what point do you believe the “lima bean” becomes a “human being.” It does cross that line, doesn’t it? Even in your thinking it DOES cross that line. So when do you think it happens? Would it be wrong to kill the “lima bean” after that point? Or don’t you care?

Way to go Peter!! That’s always been my question. Where are those people when millions of children need homes?? Or when their irresponsible, cracked out parents are beating them or killing them after they are born?? Who saves those children? There are plenty of Pro-Lifers out there. Go ADOPT a kid that is actually BORN and needs a home. Stop judging and be active.

Planned Parenthood was founded by a known radical leftist that hated blacks. Her plan was to push abortion onto blacks in order to purposely kill future black individuals. A clever idea, so she thought. Then the idea was continued to be promoted by black hating Democrats for decades after it’s introduction. The the Democrat KKK decided to kill 3400 blacks after they were born. Then clever LBJ finally decided that it would be best for votes just to pretend like they actually cared for blacks by “giving them a little something, not enough to make a difference but enough to keep them quiet.”

Democrats have done zero good for the black community and it was always part of their plan to control blacks rather than help them. The conservative plan for all people is to teach them how to fish instead of just handing over the fish for nothing.

Idiot demonic liberal idea number four: “Since some parents will turn out to abuse their children then we should encourage them to kill them early, instead of killing them later. If they do escape abortion, apparently we should kill them right after they are born, instead of waiting five or ten years, then killing them.”

Of course, the conservative plan of letting them live and being responsible parents never crosses their minds.

Mccuen,
What tangent is the pro Choice side going off on? Their position is that it is none of your business what others do with regard to abortion. If someone has an abortion and you don’t know about it, how does that affect you? Do you think that God is going to punish America for allowing it? Why don’t YOU stick to the issue? How is someone else having an abortion any of your business?

Most of the bloggers on this site are right wing nut jobs ranting and quoting the Bible.

Of course, taking the liberal idea that some kids will be abused after they are born, we should probably promote the idea that all races that tend to be overly abusive with their kids, currently US blacks, should not have any babies at all, since the chance of their being abusive is higher than others. Strangely, this is the exact thought process that the founder of Planned Parenthood had right from the start. This white gal that started it hated blacks and had this plan to use planned parenthood to decrease the overall size of the black community.

Using this idiot liberal logic … If someone has an abortion and you don’t know about it, how does that affect you? Do you think that God is going to punish America for allowing it? Why don’t YOU stick to the issue? How is someone else having an abortion any of your business?

That means that as long as you privately kill your own toddlers in your own bedroom and make sure that nobody knows about it then you should not worry about it. Yep, liberals are really this sick and diseased.

kmichaels,
You wrote, “Teaching safe s-e-x in schools fails far more frequently then actually adhering to abstinence. Just thought you should know”.

Abstinence? You mean as practiced by your hero, Sarah Palin and her brood?

Hahahahahahahaha!

She has certainly earned my respect. And this is why we should always love the sinner – but hate the sin. Planned Parenthood is all about money – that is all.

See if you can keep it short!

I’ll answer your question. Because the unborn cannot protect themselves.

I am a member of a community and the welfare of that community is my business. I also donate to charity, even though I derive no direct benefits. I call the police when I believe another human being needs help. I do not insulate myself from the world. I take responsibility for it and do not cede my duties to the government.

In other words, it takes a village…

Amazing what daylight does to so many dark acts. And look who is afraid of the truth. After a few years of post-marital dating life, I began finding a way to ask my dates about their experience with abortion. It was stunning and heartbreaking to find that so many of these educated, urbane and sophisticated women (and their friends) had multiple abortions – and a ready rationale for why a child had to die in order to prevent a bit of embarassment and inconvenience. (No, there were no life or death issues here – just selfishness.) Prevention, Yes! Wholesale slaughter by the millions must end. (Hitler, Stalin, Mao – they must all be so proud of their ever so productive confederates at Planned Parenthood.)

Can any of you pro-abortion folks explain what Planned Parenthood is hiding? Keep it short!!!!! If you know…or care…

Dave: ultrasounds are a PART of pre-abortion counseling. There’s a lot more that goes on at Crisis Pregnancy Clinics

The beauty of it is, combined with ultrasounds and life-skill counseling, most crisis pregnancy clinics have upwards of a 98% success rate.

Roe vs. Wade is an interesting thing to debate. Meanwhile, we’re winning on the gound.

Patrick

Conservatives are always smugly pointing out they want the government to stay out of their private lives;except when they disagree with the way others live their private lives. I had an abortion in my 20’s. I was married and taking birth control pills. I chose to have an abortion. I never hid from the fact that I was ending a life. However, I believe a woman should have that right as she risks her life to give birth. Also get off the partial birth nonsense. These are not performed except in the most heartbreaking circumstances. I have actually talked to people who have performed them or assisted. They were all terribly affected by this necessary but horrifying procedure. They carry a special burden for being willing to take part in this work. They cry for all the babies and the mothers who wanted their babies so much. My body is my business. Don’t assume you can force me to conform to your values. I have my own and I don’t try to even persuade you wingnuts to learn to think rather than rant. I mind my own business as much as I can. Once in awhile though I exercise my right of free speech to let others know that this country has many views.

Holy freaking Hell… In a bigger city, most of the Planned Parenthoods don’t even do abortions.

They do physicals, gynecology exams, mammograms(Which is why the Komen society supports them). In the town where I live, there are 4 PPs… Only 2 do abortions, and one of those two just does pills in the first trimester. The other two are there as women’s wellness clinics that accept medicaid, do charity work, and try to educate women.

My mom was an NP at a PP for over 20 years. In that entire time, she gave abortions for a year, and she always counseled that the mother see an ultrasound. She *never* encouraged an abortion. Also, the abortions that you all are talking about are mostly outdated. Now, it’s usually just a pill(the only kind my mom did) or an injection. Then they’re pushed out with the next period. Rarely is suction or whatever used.

I myself do not support abortion, but who am I to judge a woman who’s had one? She had to make the decision, whatever the circumstances were. I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. Please, get the two straight. Very few are pro-abortion.

Also, partial birth abortions are ILLEGAL. So stop bringing those up.

Don’t bother responding to this, I know I will just be a ‘left-wing liberal extremist’ but I can assure you I’m quite moderate.

This actually happens all the time. The doctors, nurses, and clinic workers who man the abortion offices are often the first ones to “turn” pro-life, because they see the facts every day and become experts on why the gruesome practice is so wrong. “Roe” from Roe v Wade, and the world’s most prolific abortioner Dr. Bernard Nathanson are prime examples. The lady who ran most of the clinics in the Dallas area wrote a book about how one day, she just couldn’t do it anymore, because she saw she was actually hurting and maiming girls regularly instead of helping them. There are less and less places to get an abortion now, because there are few people to staff them. Show them mercy, understanding, and love, and many will come around. One day there will be no abortions; Americans will look back and say ‘what were we thinking?’

(Sorry for the misspellings, I’ve got an old browser on my laptop.)

The media and most on the left recently applauded the bravery of the young lady who bared her breasts on a TV news cast during sweeps week in order to demonstrate a self breast exam. I wonder how the left would respond if an ultrasound of an abortion was televised on the news? Can you say nuclear!

It is my right to kill all the babies I want. Apparently, killing all the babies I want to is Constitutional. And, according to the leftists commenting here, that appears to be the situation. Anyone is allowed to kill as many babies as possible. In fact, it seems as though that is the goal of the “progressives’. Oh wait. Forget “seems”. That IS the goal of progressives. In fact, Planned Parenthood was created to rid the world of those terrible dark babies. Thank you “progressives” for commenting and backing up that assertion. More progressives = more dead dark (read minority) babies.

Always remember, the democrat party is the party of:
- Racists
- Slavery
- Segregation
- Lynchings
- Jim Crow
- The KKK (”The terrorist wing of the democrat party”)
- Bull Connor
- Worthless Union Thugs
- DEAD BABIES (Step up! No waiting! Kill yours today!)

@Need Some Explanation: you said, “Where are those people when millions of children
need homes?? Or when their irresponsible, cracked out parents are beating them or
killing them after they are born?? Who saves those children? There are plenty of
Pro-Lifers out there. Go ADOPT a kid that is actually BORN and needs a home.
Stop judging and be active.”

My question is, what percentage of the children who are aborted would you say would
have been murdered by their parents after birth? I would say that the percentage is
not very high…
At least if the mother carries the child to full term it can be adopted. Even if it is
not, the child at least has a chance at LIFE. Let the person decide if it wants to
die or not, not the irresponsible mother who forgot to pick up her birth control
pill. Yes, the poor mother has to undergo 9 months of pain followed by labor.
It will not be the end of her life, it will just be an inconvenience until she
gives the child away at birth. Abortion WILL however be the end of someones life….
The irresponsible mother having to deal with her mistake might actually help her
to grow as a person.

Yes, if the child is born to an irresponsible parent, it probably won’t have the
most fantastic childhood. We all have our own struggles in life. Do not forget that
some of the most powerful, talented,influential people in this world came from not
so great family backgrounds (Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby,etc). They rose up and overcame, its what life is all about.

I just want our government AND our tax dollars OUT of the abortion business. I think this woman’s change of heart is absolutely wonderful. I am not “pro” abortion; in fact I would much rather young girls and women choose other options- what ever is best for the baby; but I do not think the government has any business making laws about it- with the exception of late term or “partial birth” which is a horrific and barbaric procedure. Planned Parenthood seems to be a pretty name on an ugly enterprise but, I’m not an expert about what goes on in those facilities. Just get the government and our tax dollars the hell out of there. If what this woman says is true, that Planned Parenthood was PUSHING for more abortions, NOT providing help, counseling and thoroughly examining the ALL of the alternatives with the girls / women who go there, then they are akin to death camps and must be staffed with soul-less money grubbers.

Seems to me she was just a plant anyway. I don’t agree with abortions necessarily, but I am also extremely sick of sleazy, free loading leech mothers getting a free easy great subsidized life of no work or effort, just for popping out 6 kids they don’t even care about for welfare money. People should need a license to have kids. There’s too many idiots breeding out there.

To “Annie” – What a convoluted exercise in trying to rationalize the killing of your own child at its most vulnerable time. You veer off the logical path to indicate that there are some late term abortions which have some sad reasons to take place – they are a small subset (just like the rape, incest and life-of-the-mother statistics). What does that have to do with a healthy married woman who elected to kill her own child? No wonder you are defensive. I’m all for keeping my mouth shut about how you vote, what you drive and what hobbies you choose – but we are talking about taking human lives here. That argument falls flat and, in your heart, you know it. How do you sleep at night?

Michelle: if she was “plant” for eight years, then the was a pretty good actor.

She was also morally complicit (if a plant) in the acts she participated in.

In which case, we need to hire her for the CIA directly.

Patrick.

Nice. A life changing event… you don’t here about those these days. Maybe we’re turning the corner, finally.

I have to take issue with the people who claim that an abortion is not the intentional taking of a human life. Even if you are looking at an fertilized egg on the first day of conception with a microscope, you are indeed looking at a human being in its very earliest stages of development. That “blob of cells” or tadpole as someone earlier mentioned, is not going to develop into anything other than a human being; it won’t be a goldfish, puppy or anything other than a human child after nine months of development. I don’t see this as a religious issue as much as I do an ethical issue. The very party that should be the most ardent protector of the human in development instead becomes it most vicious adversary; resulting in the death of a human being in its earliest stages. We do indeed live in a culture of death…

If one possesses personal responsibility, abortions wouldn’t exist. With the very rare exception of the baby conceived by force, it takes a conscious choice of spreading one’s legs to have a baby. So, why should a baby (yes, baby – beating heart and all) be killed for someone’s lack of control? Babies just don’t happen by mistake.

Abortions are ghastly. Crushing the head and dismembering the body. I’d ask those in favor – could you do this to a puppy? Using the logic of several previous posters: both are alive and neither are human. And, no, the embryo never goes through a “tadpole” stage – they are human right from the start. Similarly, I’ve never quite understood the “it’s my body” line – trust me, it’s not your body.

Please, folks, have some respect for yourselves (and your species). Hold yourselves accountable for your actions and grow a little responsibility.

Christian Democrat: what’s the difference between a pill or injection
and the “old school” abortions that have been mentioned?

More humane? Less painful? What?

The result is the same, regardless your rationalizations.

Patrick

TO ANNIE: Most conservatives I know don’t spend any time ranting or trying to force another person to conform to their will. If those who disagree want to march or speak out, great. Both sides get to do that. I just wrote what I thought before I read your post and you’ll notice there’s no ranting at all. You need to stop pigeon-holing and generalizing about conservatives. You probably don’t know very many, otherwise you would know that most of them also don’t want the government involved in this issue, either. My tax dollars should not be spent in any way with your choice of whether or not to take a pregnancy to term, nor should it finance your birth control. I’m sure that in your case, it did not. The only thing I think should be illegal, unless it’s truly a life and death situation for the mother, is the partial birth which I hope, as you say, is a very rare occurrence.

How many kids (white, black, brown, medically dependent) have all of you passing moral judgement. Child abuse kills one child every two hours in this country. Child neglect will creat more unwanted, without hope kids. Step up all you rightous pro-lifers and help raise all these unwanted babies.

Life begins at conception. Period.

My wife of 25 years got an abortion 28 years ago when we were teenagers. I was 17 and she was 16. We defied all odds by staying together and are very happy today with 3 children and a wonder life together. But the decision we made so long ago will always haunt us. We have only talked about it couple of times due to the pain it still inflicts. Needless to say we regret our decision. I don’t pretend to judge others today but I believe if we had received any counseling at the time, granted ultrasounds were not available but pictures, anything it would not have taken much to change our minds. I do believe too many abortions are a result of inconvenience. That was the case for us. It did not take long for us to realize how selfish and immature we were and now we have to live with the consequences of knowing our 28 year old child never had a chance.

I’m afraid you are confusing nominal Christians for Christians. Christ never told us to harm or kill others because they do not believe in Him. However, He did command us to love you.

We will not accept the label you put on us for what nominal Christians did as you may or may not accept the label put on you for what nominal Christians a.k.a pagans did.

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Dee November 2nd, 2009 – 4:13 pm
I’m also quite sure that while the Christians were slaughtering millions of Pagans, they didn’t leave the pregnant women and children out of it. Oh but abortion…now that’s just wrong.

I’m encouraged by this. It isn’t often that we hear about a change of heart of this magnitude. She’s important in that it focuses on a group that should not exist in the first place and should be shut down all across the country. Good for her!

To “Mac” – What are you trying say? Abortion is the ultimate form of child abuse – the painful dismembering of the innocent who, yes, can feel the terrible pain. You want to accelerate the number of children killed? And these self-righteous pro-lifers are statistically more likely to contribute to charities than your liberal pro-abortion buddies. (And they pay taxes so that the nanny state can do its magic.) It must be really important to you to vilify those who disagree with you.

abortion kills 1500 per hour. Maybe abortion should be permitted if accompanied by castration.

If people have the right to decide what is a life…lets up the age a little and delete some of the not human yet kids Michelle is talking about.

What if that’s my choice? I choose not to support kids I didn’t have. Lets just delete them too.

Tonight at 9:00pm eastern http://www.StopTheAbortionMandate.com

WebCast to ACTION!

MAC – I have adopted two children, aside from my own. How about you? My wife and I have been foster parents for years. How about you? My wife and I give thousands of dollars per year to a specific adoption organization. How about you? Catholic Charities is one of the largest adoption organizations in the world. I am doing my job taking care of the babies being born. It would sure be nice if people like you stopped killing them, and actually started to do something for the ones that are still around. And yes, I do pass judgment on murderers, whether they be Gacy, OJ, or people that ruthlessly kill babies. And I applaud anyone that takes issue, and action, when babies are being systematically killed. You, on the other hand, preen about passing judgment while millions die.

James you are a waste of air… christians kill civilians??? are you on crack or has the koolaid killed your brain?? Please, and those good muslim terrorists that kill thousands of people around the world every year…. get a clue and some friggin values

Annie:

Your body is your business….

Ok, I get that, but who’s business is your dead childs body?

Obviously it was not yours, he was just dumped in the garbage, because you didn’t
want him.

I was in a similar situation. Married for one year, taking birth control pills,
and I got pregnant. Wasn’t my plan, but now we have a precious little boy. The
thought of killing him before he had a chance never crossed my mind. If you had
done this terrible act, and then felt remorse for your decision, it is forgiveable.
But you obviously show no remorse for killing your own flesh and blood because it
wasn’t the right time for YOU to be pregnant.

May God rest your childs soul.

Dee,

Except for the Catholic/Spaniard experience in South America and the Philipines, which were relatively late on, there is no real basis for the statement: slaughtering millions of pagans. That is popular mythology – and in the case of South America, more of a case of cruelty at the hands of Spanish colonial power – not even close to millions. Millions would be more like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and the like – none of whom were Christian.

mac, if there is a problem with child abuse and the solution is people stepping up, then why don’t you liberals step up and adopt them and help them? Or is the only group obligated to help the abused child the group that wants unborn babies from being murdered? mac, you really sound like a dope using that lame rationale that babies should be aborted because some living kids are abused. They are separate issues, you nincompoop.

Liberal stupid idea number eleven: “Since kids are abused, we should kill more babies before they are born.”

Ok, so, does that mean we should kill the kids at one year old so that it would decrease the number of child abuse cases happening between 2 and 17 years old? You people really are insane.

Awesome! NOW SHOW THAT ABORTION FILM TO EVERY KID IN SCHOOL!

Oh, the irony of the public, major media broadcasting of untold numbers of shootings, fatal accidents, bombings, and all manner of mayhem, but not a singele, major media broadcast of either an abortion video or still picture, not a single one.

anyone who has aan abortion or thinks it is “PROCHOICE” is a murderer… I am 24 and maybe when i was dumb and 16 i would have believed in abortions because i thought that bringing a baby into a world where i could not givin the child anything would have been worse…now a proud parent of a special needs son who is the apple of my eye , i am disgusted i ever was so sick minded to believe it was somehow my right to choose who lives and dies… my 2 kids will grow up to treat life as a gift and to value life unlike some liberal who raises a snot because they saw their mom have 20 abortions and now they shoot eachother in the streets… I value marriage, I value life… for that reason i am better then Anyone that murders a baby…my mother was 17 and married in russia when she had me and turned out to be an amazing mother and i thank her everyday because she gave life to me and i gave life to 2 beautiful children… now I am a highfashion model turned stay at home mom…so please spare me the bullshi* about prochoice… you are just a selfish and lame person

My own experience with Planned Parenthood is that it is an unscrupulous organization. My then-15-year-old daughter was filmed for a pro-abortion commercial by Planned Parenthood of Chenango County, NY, even though the director knew that I was opposed to abortion in particular and Planned Parenthood in general. She refused to take my daughter out of the film. At the time, I didn’t have the funds to fight her in court. Anybody who uses someone’s underage child to further her own political agenda, knowing that child’s mother is opposed to the message sent, is the worst kind of political opportunist.

The insane bizarre idea from liberals that we should kill more human babies before birth because the mean old Christians won’t adopt them all is pretty damn sick and twisted. They are all for decreasing human population unless somebody suggests that they decrease their own existence to help the planet out. Then of course their high morals are placed on the back burner. Liberals are all about being bizarre self-serving control freaks that want to justify murder for the sake of convenience. But that excuse will never fly and they know it.

To kmichaels – Mac’s issues are not separate. Abortion is “Pre-Emptive Child Abuse”. Kind of like “Do unto many unborn children before somebody else gets to kill some of them.” And they think that they hold the intellectual high ground – and pro-lifers “just don’t get it”.

mac November 2nd, 2009 – 5:09 pm
How many kids (white, black, brown, medically dependent) have all of you passing moral judgement. Child abuse kills one child every two hours in this country. Child neglect will creat more unwanted, without hope kids. Step up all you rightous pro-lifers and help raise all these unwanted babies.

You sound like a “big man” (sarcasm) and you’re doing what about it? Are you arriving in your cape and costume and rescuing kids in the nick of time? Yeah, I thought so you putz… Get a clue, take a grammar class too…..

Listen to the bizarre insane liberal mush brained sick and twisted logic. It is better to abuse the children before they are born than have them risk abuse later in life. God, what sick and twisted little demons you liberals are. Do you have any morals at all? How about we kill all your kids now in order to cut down on possible rapes later in life? Then we can claim that we got rid of all rape and even all murder. We kill you all before you are born, then none of you ever have to suffer. Remember, we are only doing you a great service. You are such utter idiots.

I’m pretty sure all the abortions at Planned Parenthood are only Liberal baby killers, right?

And that no ultra conservatives EVER get abortions, right?

Let’s STOP the judging and FORGET about PARTIES. Abortions happen, good or bad, right or wrong, but its not for us to judge and persecute and label.

That’s what the Bible says, right?

dave November 2nd, 2009 – 12:24 pm
“It is not our place to determine where someone else’s moral compass should point.”

Dave, moral relativism is narcotic to a lucid mind. Open your eyes, as this young lady did, and really see what is there. Clear the fog for once in your life and face the ugly truth of PP.

“Regardless of how the ‘cult’ acts abortion cannot be made illegal. As we’ve seen before people will simply attempt to perform them without medical help and the results are disastrous.”

You sound like you think abortion is some sort of genie and it has escaped its bottle. This is not some guilty pleasure; it is a human being’s life. We can make murder illegal; we merely lack the will.

Anyone who’s against abortion, who is not a religious fanatic, has simply not thought it through. Abortion is the most efficient form of crime-control this idiot society still has. We should be doing everything possible to encourage the underclass to abort more of their children. Underclass kids, who are not aborted, will be killing each other and, more important, US(!)in the streets fifteen years later. Underclass criminals murder far more Americans every year than were killed in the 911 attacks. Abortion is an effective, preemptive strike against our REAL enemies.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches “The Sanctity of Life”.

From conception until natural death.

If we fail to observe that teaching, we have no respect for ourselves or each other.

What, therefore, is our basis for growth and maturity as a people?

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! GLAD YOU CAME AROUND!!! Your conversion will save many lives!!

This made my heart leap for joy. It is just so sad that so many (as witnessed by the comments here) believe Planned Parenthood is concerned with women’s health and PP gives them all their options.
When the famous doctor, Bernard Nathanson, saw what was happening on the ultrasound while he performed an abortion, he finally realized what abortion really is, the killing of a human being not just a blob of tissue. The ultrasound was used in the movie “The Silent Scream”. This movie gives you the truth not the hidden rhetoric of the pro-choice crowd. Dr. Nathanson is now a pro-life advocate.
They teach sex-education in our grade schools, they should also teach about what does happen during an abortion and stop making it out like it is just a minor surgery to remove tissue. But I doubt the NEA will allow that to happen. It’s more important to learn how to apply condoms.

Christian Democrat, Planned Parenthood is pro-abortion. Get that straight. They perform more abortions in this country than any other entity. Their founder was Margaret Sanger who believed in eugenics and thought getting rid of undesirables (read black, brown and babies for the poorer class) was a benefit to society. Her goal was not to counsel these women, her goal was keep these women from reproducing. That is Planned Parenthood’s heritage and legacy.

Dee, according to your morality, if a Christian (or anyone else) finds that a Pagan is inconvenient, what’s wrong with killing the Pagan? I mean the Pagan was a pain, unwanted, a distraction. Why can’t I kill him?

So a leader with influence, who could have created change. But horrified by reality, abandons the responsibility of making things right. Sin compounding sin.

Dear Abby Johnson — I just prayed for you. On this All Souls Day, I believe that there are souls in heaven rejoicing at your conversion to support life at all stages. Here in the USA, this writer from New York is proud of the loving example you have shown to the country. Do not let people demonize you. Even Dorothy Day (http://dorothydayguild.org/herlife.htm) suffered when God’s grace impacted her life. Remember St. Paul when he said, “they will know we are Christians by our love.”

Mrs.Rendall – Never has an conservative who is Pro-life has ever gotten an abortion.

And those who take the lives of unborn childern don’t need our judgement; The act of taking the live of another is alreasy
known. The act is evil.

The bible says not to judge the sinner; but condemn the sin. :-) Hope that cleared it up for you! :-)

Catholics!!!! How can you call yourself a Catholic when the leader who is inspired by God(The Pope) says you shall not support abortion
Man-I do not get Catholics who support abortion at all-maybe Satanists but not Catholics-shame on all of you.

Ahhh, yes. Here, once again, we have an example of why you’re such an enlightened culture in America. God, god, god. Is there any public policy issue in America that can’t be solved by turning the decision over to god??? GWB tried to let god make all of his decisions for him (well, god and Dick Cheney) and that worked out so very, very well for all of you. Keep it up. You’re well on your way to becoming a failed state, unable to pay your debts and a total joke in the international community. It’s a shame, really. But you’re a nation full of some of the most ignorant people in the world, though the largest collection of ignorance seems to belong to the Republicans in your nation. Your nation has been designed to fail. Your political system isn’t capable of meeting the challenges of the 21st Century, and you’re all too busy accusing the other side of being responsible for the ridiculous mess you’re in. Nobody wants to take responsibility, and sure as hell nobody wants to pay for the fixes you need. Sad, sad, sad. A once proud and great nation on its way to complete failure. But keep talking about abortion. No doubt the most pressing and urgent issue for many of you ignoramuses.

The Liberals (Progressives) want you to beleive that abortion is about womens rights.. would you vote for womens rights if the real agenda was population control – research Ruth Bader Ginburg on this.

Besides they keep pushing womens decision to have an abortion, but they scorn a womens decision to keep the child.

Liberals are dirtbags.

Boy you can really hear the dripping sympathy for that person in the voices of the newscasters, especially the man. He sounds like he’s a preacher on the side. I think that woman was a plant, a mole from religion that took a job with PP so she could all of a sudden “quit” and put PP in a bad light.

Planned parenthood should do everything it feels necessary to protect itself. I live in the DFW area and am a longtime contributor to the Ft. Worth PP.

Easy On Terrorists – Tough On Fetus’

I’ve always said that every political leader who votes for abortion should have to first view an abortion (in person) and then go back and vote their conscience. I believe there would be a different vote if that were the case.
Oh, that more will see that the killing of the innocent, is a great SIN upon our Nation.

Those who become Christians become new persons. They are not the same anymore, for the old life is gone. A new life has begun!!! 2 Corinthians 5:17

So, really what we’re talking here is it is a live baby, you know, like all of us started out. And to keep that baby from becoming one of us, it needs to be killed. She basically watched a snuff film. I’m reading “don’t judge”. Well, who is speaking for the live baby if we Pro-Lifers don’t? All of the diatribe about future abuse possibilities is just weak justification saying it’s okay to start the abuse just a little earlier and a little more profoundly.

hey breitbart.tv
when i got to your page, there was an ad in the “related videos” section advertising “abortion to 24 weeks”. either change your video service, or demand they use a proper filter. that is just sick. using “abortion” in the title of this video is generating hits for abortionists. wake up! don’t be complicit in murder.

as for you pro-aborts, i’d laugh at you, if i wasn’t sure you were going to hell. i might wind up there too, but baby killing is a sure thing. sad and heart wrenching, but true.

Remember that the United Way is one of Planned Parenthood’s greatest benefactors.

I find it interesting that Planned Parenthood’s statement doesn’t show any concern for this woman lying or making misleading statements about their business practices etc. They don’t want her to the truth about what she learned from working for them. Specifically, Planned Parenthood doesn’t want people to realize how much they are motivated by the money that they earn for performing abortions. It’s not about helping women with unwanted pregnancies, it’s about getting those women in and out their doors- lighter for the cash they leave behind. I stopped in planned parenthood to get cheaper condoms when I was low on cash. I had to sign in and sit down and wait and wait, just to buy condoms. For a group that’s supposed to be interested in trying to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies as well as end them, they sure aren’t very interested in actually DOING much more than lip service about helping prevent those pregnancies. They very much had the attitude of, “You’re a man, you aren’t in here to get an abortion- go get condoms somewhere else.” They made me feel like I was stupid for even going there. A very unhappy place, indeed.

Imagine the number of doctors, scientists, teachers etc that we have murdered. I am sure we destroyed the answers to Cancer, the energy problem and even “world hunger” because the people with these answers were not allowed to come into the world, we murdered them in the womb.

It would seem that some enjoy mocking God, His Commandments and the teachings of Jesus.

The same group finds joy in criticizing America, her people, Democrats, Republicans, Christians and Jews.

Make no mistake, God is in control. Pray for one another. Forgive one another. The wise will turn to God and keep His Commandments.

The Atheistic democrats. What do Democrats believe in??? DIRT!!! They worship DIRT! That’s it. MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST All the same.

For those who actually watched the piece, is anyone else bothered by the fact that at no time in the story made available to the public did the former Planned Parenthood employee say she decided to resigns after watching an ultrasound of abortion procedure. Has the website used a sensational headline to attract hits even though the story does not support its claim?

Liberals are sickos that like to force women to have abortions, then they eat the abortion while dancing in pentagram drawn on the floor. It’s true, I’ve seen them do it. And I’ve tried it. Babies are tasty.

It’s interesting that PP is now doing mammograms, pap smears, etc, because they are trying to legitimize what they are truly doing – killing unborn children in the name of choice. THAT is where they make most of their money, through abortions.

These tired, old arguments about all these unwanted babies being born if there are no abortions are so stupid. There are SO many Catholic and Protestant adoptions services. I have friends who cannot have children, and they are on a waiting list. Pulling out the unwanted babies argument is for the truly desperate.

With the advent of ultrasound technology, there is no way anyone with a conscience can look at this and say that an unborn child is not a human baby. It is not a tumor, a blob of tissue, a “product of conception”.

Our neighbor’s daughter was ready to have an abortion until her friends begged her to get an ultrasound before she went through with it. She did – and saw a tiny child with brain waves, a heart beat, fingers & toes, and she realized it was indeed a child. What is so despicable about this is that her high school counselor told her to get the abortion without her parents’ knowledge, and that it wasn’t really a baby. I am so glad this young lady listened to her friends and told her parents. She already has chosen adoptive parents for her baby due in January.

Abortion is killing a child, and science proves it. Anyone who says different is an ignorant fool, or completely heartless.

Thankfully there will always be a pool of responsible and concerned doctors to fill her empty seat.

Dave,
get the facts at abortionfacts.com
you’re a victim of pp propaganda

Geeze, no shortage of raving loonies on these comments, huh? I don’t know if I should be frightened or encouraged that they all figured out how to work a computer… if they had brains, they’d be DANGEROUS!

Ann Asher
Way to contribute… you do realize that the site you posted is totally filtered and biased, right? I must assume that you think that the 700 Club is unfiltered media….

I still think its the individuals choice althogh I myself do not support the notion of abortion

I’m not religious in the least. I was raised luke warm babtist, where we went to church on Easter and Christmas if it fit the schedule. The whole concept of a supreme being seems a little far fetched to me, but to each his own. HOWEVER, I know that paying some guy a few hundred dollars to scrape my child out of me is BARBARIC. I don’t feel bad for any woman that dies doing it herself. If the kid was a day old, it would be called a “murder-suicide.” It is an idustry that is out to make money just like tobbacco. They don’t care what happens to these women as long as they make their money. And you morons fall into this riduculous trap of thinking it has anything to do with freedom and Repub v Dem crap. Idiot sheep. You are so sucked into the politics trap that you are actually defending the killing of children, by saying that it is better than them being poor. Moron sheep.

People who support killing babies in the womb could not given thought to the horror of it. Here, in Boston, the bastion of liberalism, many are young academes who embrace baby death because it is the young or free thing to do, is anti-religious, and most importantly feeds the sex frenzy of college minds. Our academes are the most closed minded, because they believe they have a superior intellect to others and are self centered. If anyone has an way to get through the wall of bias of these people to their minds and hearts, I would live to try it.

So if you can’t beat them, sue. Cowards.

This is just the sort of flash of conscience and clarity that I pray all lost people will someday experience. It so beautifully illustrates “I once was lost, but now am found, was blind, but now I see”

Yeah, I’m sure that her ’spiritual conversion’ had nothing to do with office politics. Someone wanted her job, was going to get it, and she attempted to do as much damage as possible when she left. Her remarks about ‘getting more abortions in the door had better be something close to the truth, or she is going to have a large defamation lawsuit to contend with. Luckily one hayseed doesn’t change the field there in Bryan, and you folks are rubes if you think this had anything to do with her ‘morals’.

No children were killed during the procedure. Fetal growth was interrupted, no birth will take place, e.g. no child.

Mom of 2 – You highlight the exact reason why I believe that men should not have any input into the legislation of family planning initiatives… I’ve met too many anti-choice females that suddenly appreciated and supported the right when they experienced a flash of reality.

1) Abortion is not murder. Murder is a legal term with a very specific definition: ILLEGAL killing with MALICIOUS INTENT. You may WANT abortion to be murder, but currently it is not.

2) Human rights? I have heard many of you mention this idea of human rights? Can any of you provide a document (or anything for that matter)that grants rights to something for simply being human. (before you start tying to cite the Universal Declaration of Rights….take a moment to look at article 1….). Whether or not an embryo/fetus is a living human being is irrelevant — you are a living human being, and you have no right to use a woman’s uterus against her will, even if you have some compelling need for it in order to live. There is no human right to the use or ownership of any part of another human’s body against their will, so you would have to invent a right for embryos and fetuses that no other human stage of development enjoys. Further, to do so, you would have to undermine the rights of women to act in self-defense, the first tenet of which always requires that she first act to separate herself from unwanted physical contact. So the embryo/fetus has no claim to her body, and she cannot be denied the right to separate herself from it, regardless of its circumstance.

3) What you really want to do is remove rights from one group of people (women) while granting extra rights to ZEFs (zygotes/embryos/fetuses). Both have the right to physical separation if the other is causing them direct, unwanted, physical contact. Their rights are equal. The fetus has no legal claim to the woman’s internal organs. YOu keep claiming that the embryo/fetus has no rights, or that its rights are being infringed; if the embryo/fetus were any born stage of person — say you or I — where do we have the right to use a woman’s uterus against her will, use her blood and the nutrients it contains for our own sustenance against her will, and remain in physical contact with her for forty weeks? If you and I have no such right, then you are attempting to INVENT a ‘right’ for embryos and fetuses at the expense of the WOMAN’S rights to self-defense.

4)If consent to sex is consent to pregnancy, where pregnancy has less than a 2% chance of occurring in the average sexual encounter (less, with protection, more without), then consent to pregnancy is consent to miscarriage, since 23% of pregnancies end in miscarriage naturally through the rejection of the embryo as an ‘alien’ cellular mass inside the woman’s body. And if consent has already been granted to miscarriage, then inducing miscarriage is simply complying with the woman’s consent; the safest means of doing this is through abortion. Perhaps ‘Lifers’ should reconsider their position — I’m sure a few million post-miscarriage women would object to the idea that they ‘consented’ to lose their pregnancy, regardless of how natural it is to do so. http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/colb/20080915.html?=features
Sex is not a criminal act, you cannot justify punishing women for having it. Especially since there is no corollary punishment for men. Accidental pregnancy is a potential side-effect of having sex, but is only a tiny possibility, on average; there is no precedent to establish your argument, since a person walking down a dark alley is likewise not consenting to get mugged, even if their odds of it are higher than those of a woman who chooses to have sex. Neither can be denied the medical services necessary to restore their normal state of health

5) Abortion is nothing more nor less than the ending of a process within a woman’s body (pregnancy) by removing from her the product of that condition (embryo/fetus). In order to have an objective basis for the legality, treat the embryo/fetus as a fully-recognized living human being, but remove all gender and age factors from the scenario:

Person A exists, and has full human rights under the law; Person B comes into direct physical contact with Person A, in a manner which Person A finds harmful and which has the possibility of killing Person A (and even Person B). Separating Person B from Person A will kill Person B. Now, two questions:
1) Is there grounds for Person B to remain in physical contact with Person A until Person B’s condition allows for a safe separation? Only if Person A agrees: this is organ donation, which US law recognizes as strictly volunteer; nobody can be mandated to give up an organ under any circumstance. Even if Person A had caused some part of Person B to fail, Person B has no legal claim to that part of Person A for any length of time without Person A’s explicit, direct, and unrevoked permission. Person B has no legal right to the use or ownership of Person A against Person A’s will.
2) Is there grounds for Person A to separate themselves from Person B, even if doing so will be harmful to Person B? Yes, under self-defense law. The first tenet of all self-defense law requires a person to separate themselves physically from whomever is causing them unwanted harm. Since Person B is causing direct physical contact which Person A finds harmful, Person A has full right to separate themselves from Person B, regardless of Person B’s condition. Creating a physical separation between two persons is the most important aspect of self-defense law.

Now, this example treats the embryo/fetus as a person with full legal rights, because there is no human right to the use of another person against their will, so being a living human being does nothing for it, practically speaking. A woman can still choose to put physical distance between herself and the embryo/fetus, which has the side-effect of terminating fetal development before the fetus achieves viability. But the intention of abortion is to restore the woman’s normal health, not to kill anything.

The reason we eliminate gender and age in the example is because failing to do so allows for the creations of exclusions that apply to gender and age; the problem with this is that gender-bias and age-bias in legislation are illegal. Any law which targets women exclusively — such as to regulate pregnancy — is sexist and will be shot down; the same applies to legislation discriminating against the elderly or favoring the prenatal — it’s ageist, and cannot stand against existing precedent of law.

So as far as the law is concerned, in order to outlaw abortion, the Constitution must be re-interpreted, standing precedent against sexism and ageism must be compromised, women must lose their rights to sole ownership and control of their uteri for the duration of pregnancy (which means criminalizing the act of becoming pregnant, in order to evoke a penalty), and embryos and fetuses must be awarded rights of ownership over another person, even though no born person enjoys the same right.

Plant.

“How many kids (white, black, brown, medically dependent) have all of you passing moral judgement. Child abuse kills one child every two hours in this country. Child neglect will creat more unwanted, without hope kids. Step up all you rightous pro-lifers and help raise all these unwanted babies.”

4,000 /year (following your number) vs over 1,000,000 abortions. Either is tragedy. But the numbers aren’t even close. What tools.

“Has this website used a sensational headline to attract hits even though the story does not support its claim?”
A: Yes.

Q: Do conservative Pro-lifers themselves get abortions and have their daughters and wives get them?
A: Yes, it happnes all the time.

//It’s interesting that PP is now doing mammograms, pap smears, etc, because they are trying to legitimize what they are truly doing – killing unborn children in the name of choice. THAT is where they make most of their money, through abortions.//

3% of planned parenthoods services are abortion services. 3%. The other 97% is made up of well woman check ups (pap-smears), cancer screening, STI screening, prevention and treatment, education, etc.

Only 11% of planned parenthoods revenue is generated from abortion services.

The average cost of an abortion is $415. The average cost of a birth is $11,000. Who do you think is making money? (oh…and there are more births than abortions per capita)

This is an interesting article. In the title it suggests that Ms. Johnson watched an ultrasound of an abortion. However nothing in the actual broadcasts implies she watched anything. Instead they attribute her resignation to a change of heart. I am also bothered by the tilt to the piece. They interview Ms. Johnson but only provide a portion of a press release by Planned Parenthood. In my opinion an interview of a planned parenthood employee or spokesperson would have helped balance the broadcast.

We killed what under Bush, 80,000 children in Iraq?

When in doubt, abort it out.

Good for her

common_sense – Carlin said it best about right-to-lifers “They care about you before you’re born. …. Once you’re born: F you! (until you’re of enlistment age)

TRUTH SHALL ALWAYS PREVAIL!!!! Years ago I read ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD, a history of Planned Parenthood by George Grant. II have not been able to find a copy recently…..If you can find a copy of the book you will be shocked by the history of this organization.

Yes, we need fewer abortions so more poor mothers will get welfare and help elect Democrats into the future forever! Thanks Conservatives, for shooting yourself in the foot (stomach?).

@Marissa, Planned parenthood history isn’t nearly as shocking as the history of monotheism like Judaism and Christianity, which is a history of genocide, including genocide glorified in the Old Testiment and genocide done in the name of the New Testament.

Your religions are the most murderous thing that ever happened to mankind.

It’s great this woman is a convert, but all these purported Christians should pray to stop killing civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq by our own troops. Yes, they are accidentally killed when going after people who no longer want us in their country, but after seven plus years of dropping bombs, you can’t say “oops” anymore. Isn’t there a commandment for Christians about “Thou shalt not kill,”? Or is that commandment left open for interpretation?
__________ I agree, let’s see if Barack Hussein Obama will stop escalating George Walker Bush’s wars:) You dopey liberals thought Obama was so cool, he is just Bush on steroids. Bush did nothing about abortion, but Obama is even more pro abortion. Bush ran up too much debt, then Barack Hussein Obama quadrupled it. Bush did nothing about energy independence, did not lets us drill offshore, in Alaska or build nukes, and Obama makes it even more difficult. So, Obama is just Bush on steroids.

This must be the video she saw, SILENT SCREAM:

http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=1335

the whole argument about abortions should be legal cause they’re going to do it anyway is ridiculous! let’s make serial killing legal…they’re going to do it anyway!

planned parenthood is a freakin’ serial killing machine that originally went after black babies. do research on margaret sanger. bunch of racist pigs…

It’s none of your business to even know if a woman is pregnant or not to begin with. No woman should be forced by her rapist to feed and carry his child to conception. What a woman does to her own body with the help and consent of her doctor is her own business.

You can come up with all sorts of rationalizations for “why” abortion should be allowed. But the bottom line that won’t go away is that in doing so, you are arguing for the right to commit mortal violence against a truly defenseless unborn child. If that isn’t the definition of evil, then what is?

“It is not our place to determine where someone else’s moral compass should point.” This statement in itself is a moral statement…that we should not be telling others what kind of morals to have. In other words, it is “wrong” for us to tell others what morals to have. On what basis (by what standard) does an amoral person make this moral statement? Only by borrowing from a biblical worldview…God’s law is written on your conscience and you suppress it. It is foolish to say that we cannot make abortion illegal. We can with the stroke of a pen. No we can’t stop people from using coathangers, but if abortions are harder to provide the fact is that more babies will live. I speak as one who could have been an abortion…born to a teenage mother in a time it was still considered a shame to have a baby out of wedlock. I am so thankful my mother was not allowed to make that choice.

Christ went out of His way to explain how it was murder to hate your fellow man and that it was adultery to gaze upon a woman with lust in your heart. Yet Crist had nothing to say on the subject of abortion even though the practice was very common and widespread at that time. I’m not saying that I approve of abortions personally, only that you are risking God’s judgement when you falsely accuse others of murder.

In ancient times abortion was a common practice. Evidence suggests that late-term abortions were performed in a number of cultures. In Greece, the Stoics believed the fetus to be plantlike in nature, and not an animal until the moment of birth, when it finally breathed air. They therefore found abortion morally acceptable. The Greek playwright Aristophanes noted the abortifacient property of pennyroyal in 421 BC, through a humorous reference in his comedy, Peace.

The ancient Greeks relied upon the herb silphium an abortifacient and contraceptive. The plant, as the chief export of Cyrene, was driven to extinction, but it is suggested that it might have possessed the same abortive properties as some of its closest extant relatives in the Apiaceae family. Silphium was so central to the Cyrenian economy that most of its coins were embossed with an image of the plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion

DRP……

When man makes a law is it just, fair, bias, perhaps shifting power from one group to another? (like changing the law in order to fill Ted Kennedy’s seat in the Senate)

When God makes a law or a Commandment, it is fair, just and best for all human kind?

Just because man makes something up does not make it legal, especially if it violates His Commandments.

The Supreme Being, God, designed all of us “uniquely” different DNA. It is God that designed how we reproduce and upon conception behold, we have new life with a new soul.

All make the choice, follow and obey man…or God.

Sure, nothing stays hidden forever, but don’t group all liberals into this. I am pro-choice, but anti-abortion. A person has the right to do anything he or she wants, but must either reap the rewards or suffer the consequences of their actions eventually, one way or the other. We have some pretty good laws, guidelines, etc. that we have made for ourselves, but they don’t beat the ones that have been around for thousands of years that were given through, dare I say divine intervention. Also we have enforcers of our laws which are quite susceptible to corruption and such–our laws are not perfect and neither are our judges or law enforcement. The old laws that were given by, dare I say God, are pretty clear cut and haven’t changed for a long time and they pretty much seem to agree with the conscience of a clear headed person. Also, there is no way to avoid the eventual enforcement of God’s law. Another difference is you get no rewards for not breaking man’s law from man, but you get rewarded for doing the right thing by God. Ohhhhhh, the arrogance of man……….

Thank God. It’s really what we are all praying for.

I have yet to see a pro-lifer give a valid reason for why my right to control what uses my body by consenting to that use (and my right to remove that which uses it when consent is not provided)should be removed.

Your moral ideologies are completely irrelevant.

I think that cheating one one’s spouse is wrong. I think it is morally wrong.

I think that refusing to donate money to charity after you win a huge lottery is wrong. Morally wrong.

To Cletus, if you are serious in your beliefs that they are not seeking or encouraging/recruiting people to get abortions, I am sorry to say that that is the case.

PlannedParenthood isnt strictly an abortion clinic. If you are pregnant, it is also a place where one can go for routine pregnancy check-ups up to giving birth. In the area where I live, one of the best mid-wives around is “dispatched’ right out of our local PlannedParenthood.

Now, when me and my wife were going to our scheduled visits for the pregnancy exams, for we did not have pregnancy covered in either of our health insurance and as I said the mid-wife was highly recommended. I think I might be using the wrong term, BTW, “mid-wife” this was a man/male. The term I am thinking of seems to signify a female. Anyway, he dilivered most of my friends kids and the montage of all the children he dilivered on his office wall displayed mant other couples children i knew.

I did my best to go to the scheduled check-ups with my wife but i did miss a couple of visits. On one occasion, I happened to be with my wife. This was one of our first visits. We were getting an ultrasound. They did some this and that routine tests and then a female entered the room. She stated she was going to detect the heartbeat with a microphone/ampliphier which we could hear as well. We thought,”hey cool”, and eagerly anticipated hearing a heartbeat. She slid this microphone all over my wife’s belly in an effort to get the heartbeat. She got this “concerned” look on her face. And actually stated, “I cant detect the hearbeat, there may be a problem.”

I am not an instant panic type of guy. NOT the case for my wife. I also am familiar with machines. If a machine does not do what I expect it to do I test the machine to see if it is working properly FIRST. As the panic rises in my wife’s face, and now she begins to cry, I ask the lady if the machine is working properly. She gave ME a look like “how dare I”. NOW I aint a chump either, so when she gave me that incredulous glance, I said, “My heart is beating, put it on my chest and see if we can hear it.”

She wouldnt have it, she said i am going to get some assistance. As she was leaving the room, I took off my shirt, grabbed the mic, flipped on the switch I saw her switch off, and she took the mic from my hand and rolled the machine out the door with her.

She came back with a mini army of manhaters. My wife was bawling. They circled her, crowding me out and started telling her that the baby may be dead and she should consider aborting the “dead’ fetus to stave off an infection. I immediately asked the lady who spewed that drivelif she was a doctor. “No”. “Based on one test, with a machine you havent convinced me is even operable, your non-doctor ass has concluded our baby is dead and we should abort it?!”"Who the hell are you?! Dont you have to have a medical license to give medical advice?!”"Where is our mid-wife?!”My poor wife is about to pass out she is so distraut at this point.

They immediately left the room, with my livid self kicking the door shut on the “medical staff”. I am consoling my wife “calm down, calm down”. “If there were something wrong, I believe YOU would know before they would.” Calm and cool prevailed just as an obvious female doctor entered the room. She was alone and very,very humble. If she said “sorry” once, I aint lying, she said it 100 times before we left. As she appologized and joined in on the consoling, she began a NEW test on the heartbeat. She put the jelly on my wife’s belly, ran the mic across her stomach and boom-boom, boom-boom, boom-boom, my son’s heartbeat filled the room through the little speakers. Now my wife weeped for joy, go figure.

We left that exam with a perfect bill of health. As we left, the “medical crew” were the staff that sat at the desk in the entrance and doing the various menial duties. NOT ONE made eye contact as we left.

NOW that wasnt it, my wife went to another routine visit during the same pregnancy. I could not make this one. BUT low and behold, they discovered a “problem” and suggested abortion. This time it was the male mid-wife. I got off work early, went to my wife’s work, and found my wife weeping in the car. At this point she is good and pregnant. She said they found a problem, and abortion is the solution. I got in my truck, drove to PlannedParenthood, saw the mid-wife and proceeded to kick his izzzasss. He recognized me and instantly started saying, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m so sorry.”

I dont know the right word or term but I “understood” that he was following a procedure he is obviously encouraged/mandated to follow. He never said this. Based on his response to me and the look in his eyes, I came to this “understanding”. But in case he couldnt understand my position by the look in my eyes, I said “this WONT happen again”, then he could tell by the look in my eyes, and he just said “I’m so sorry” and then I left.

I went back to my wife’s work, and she was on the phone with this mid-wife. He had called her to tell her he was sorry he had misread the test results and was extremely sorry for the distress he had put her through.

THAT STILL WASNT IT, on one of the last check-ups, I wasnt present for this one, low and be-freaking-hold, they discover ANOTHER problem which ONLY abortion can solve. I worked for a landscape company at the time, and my wife shows up to the job-site, HYSTERICAL. She is like 10 months pregnant, not really but she is so pregnant you can see the baby-looks like she has a kid shoved up under her shirt.

I put my shovel in the back of my truck. I am very tight with everyone I work with. My foreman and his wife work at this same company. On this day she was with us at the job-site. Her and my wife are good friends. So as she consoles my wife, I head to PlannedParenthood to go kick the shizzzzznite out of a mid-wife. On my way there, my wife calls me and says she got a call from the mid-wife, appologizing and clearing up a mistake made at PP.

I obviously had not got the whole story before heading to PP, because of my wife’s emotional state. The male mid-wife was at a delivery and could not attend my wife’s check-up. Another mid-wife did the exam, and played the routine with my wife. The male mid-wife and the mid-wife who did my wife’s exam had touched base with one another, and he found out she had done what she done. He immediately contacted my wife, and ironed out the situation as best as he could.

Believe it or not, a few weeks later this male mid-wife was driving by a spot where I was working. He stopped and appologized to me face to face. My Christian side took pity on him, and I also had to respect his actions at that point. I told him I understand he has procedures, but my wife is not a person who takes adverse news very well at all. He didnt acknowledge my statement, nor did he correct me in saying I had it all wrong either. He said that he knows what it was like to be strapped for cash and gives back by helping those who dont have the financial resources to deliver their babies, giving them the best care he can. He said that PP is THE place where finacially weak people go and that is why he is there. We shook hands and if I have another kid, I would want him to deliver that baby too. I will arrange a payment with him directly, though, this time.

3 times, during my wife’s pregnancy did the PP procedure advise my wife to abort our healthy son. NOT to mention the stress and distress they put her through, a pregnant woman, to boot. And frankly, the legit doctors had a problem with those procedures, from what I experienced. Using..secretaries and, and ..janitors to advise my wife was and is the reasons PP gets its well deserved…publicity. The pro-abortion stance PP has will destroy any well-meaning agenda they could ever profess.

When I was an atheist in my 20s I fully supported abortion on demand. Then I had a planned pregnancy. While pregnant I realized that when I wanted to sleep the baby wanted to tap dance. When I was walking, summersaults.

Wait a minute… THIS is NOT part of my body it is someone else entirely. For 15 more years I was a pro-life atheist. Murder is murder whether you believe in God or not, It shouldn’t be a religious thing it is a MORAL thing.

I became a Christian later…but being an atheist is no excuse for such cruelty.

The truth is that people will always have choice, whether legal or not. No one tries to outlaw the right of people to lie. Aren’t all sins equal in God’s eyes? Maybe we should focus more on what we as individuals are doing to better the world and praising others for their goodness,rather than yelling at their wrongs. The greatest rule in all religions is love, yes?

Yeah…I can make up stories too.

Once upon a time…..

//THIS is NOT part of my body it is someone else entirely.//

So? Who claims that a fetus is part of the woman’s body? (although it is completely correct to state that a fetus is not separate from the woman…hence the umbilical cord)

It STILL doesn’t have the right to use a woman’s body without her explicit, ongoing consent.

//Murder is murder whether you believe in God or not, It shouldn’t be a religious thing it is a MORAL thing.//

1) saying murder is murder is rather tautologous.
2) can you please provide a legal definition of murder that inludes the word moral?
3) it is rather ironic that you state it isn’t a religious thing, yet you claim it is a moral thing. Both are equally subjective.

Oh, and since when do people have to be atheist in order to support abortion? Weird. I know many religous people who are pro-choice. Why, you might ask. Because it is justifiable.

It took her 8 years?

You should still have 8 years of baby murdering guilt, woman…

Planned Parenthood turns to the Court? For what? Someone escaped over the wall and they want her back? This organization simply can’t take the heat. At some point in time we will get a look into Planned Parenthood leadership and everyone will finally see the corruption in this organization first hand. Warts and all. Heads will rolls.

Wow! listen to all the narrow minded people up in here.

Hey maybe now soldiers will start going awol once they see the innocent women and children their bombs and bullets kill. This could be a real trend setter in favor of people who “sincerly” honor “all” life.

“It is not our place to determine where someone else’s moral compass should point.” This couldn’t be more wrong. It is the function of society to decide on social norms, on what we regard, as a culture, as right and wrong. So something otherwise wrong must be permitted and approved because people will do it anyway? That is absurd and illogical. People steal even though it’s prohibited by law…why shouldn’t we make that legal too?

Here’s a story for you Keep telling yourself that you are a good person…now that’s a real fairytale.

By the way, a group of us are going north to do abortions on polar bears…..BET YOU CARE NOW! hypocrite!!

Christians are hypocrits. Considering they are personally responsible for anhilating to near extinction the native peoples of the western hemisphere.

Except in cases of prima facie threat to one’s life, self defense must be justified in court. The use of force must be both reasonable and proportional to the threat, and the threat must be based in reality. Thus, the use of unrestrained, deadly force can only be even potentially justified if the target is a clear and present danger to the life of the one using force, or of some bystander. Furthermore, self defense ends when the threat ends, even to the point where one is legally required to call an ambulance for someone they just shot, even if that person was clearly trying to kill the shooter, once the threat to the shooter has been neutralized by putting the assailant on the ground.

Furthermore, consent to an act is prima facie consent to its consequences. The consequences of an act ipso facto cannot be separated from the act itself. While a person may have the right to attempt to mitigate the consequences of a bad decision (depending on whether or not the means in question infringe on another person’s rights), you have no inherent right to escape consequences, or pick and choose said consequences. Therefore, there it is a non-sequiter, and a very absurd one, to say that consent to sex=consent to miscarriage, ergo abortion should be legal per the extension of the woman’s right to a miscarriage.

Meh…no big deal. She left of her own free will. I think it should be up to each woman to decide what they want to do with their bodies. Personally, I am pro-life. But I am not going to impose my beliefs on anyone. If you believe in a higher power, like God, Buddha, or Mohammed, that higher power will deal with it in the afterlife.

Live your life to the fullest and leave everyone alone.

I used to work in a dept. in a hospital that cleaned surgical trays among other things. A few times, while working at one hospital, the stamped-aluminum bowl that was part of a “cath kit” came down, with other parts, usually from the E.R., and in the empty bowl would be fully formed, but dead, human beings. Fetus is just a word we use to dehumanize what we murder just as, during WWII, the American troops, in order to make it easier to kill the Japanese, would refer to them as the Yellow Peril or some other term meant to make it easier, in the mind of the would-be killer, to kill. I’m 57 years old. I hope the day comes soon when we finally realize that all the political power and all the money from “parting out” other human beings will not be worth the sale of our souls.

Lucifer: “Looks like we are now going to have to start pushing our agents in the field to start outlawing ultrasounds. Curse you, Science, you are suppose to be on our side!”

Science: “I merely represent the truth of what is, not the morality of it. I hold no alliance to any ideology. You may have perceived me to be with you, but it was you who twisted what I represent, creating an illusion than science and faith do not mix. Often we actually do.”

The Indians were living people. A fetus is just a wade of flesh, like a tumor, and there is no reason to cherish it or protect it. In truth, a parent should be able to legally decide to eliminate a child up to their 18th birthday. After all, their duty to that child is infringing on their rights to live whatever life they wish. Once someone can legally live on their own without others being responsible for them, then they acquire to “right” to life. Until then, they are nothing more than hassle.

DRP…………..

The unborn child has a right to “use” the body of a woman. Why???

Because that is the way that God planned it!

Many claim the right to do with their bodies as they wish. (freedom of choice)

Some believe that their bodies are holy temples. Sure, they have an earthly mother and father, but it was God that created both Man and Woman. Therefore, their bodies really belong to The Creator of All.

Perhaps you may consider debating some of these issues with God..Go to Him in prayer.

I think you must be right because other than Christians no one in this world has killed people. Even before Christianity began.

People like Hitler killed people of every religion because he was a Darwinian . the religion of science ya know.

I am sure if christians used half their brain, they might be able to watch the news and see that certain segments of society cause most of the violent crimes, especially in the inner-cities and that the abortion rate is high there, but not high enough. It should be higher, there are too many welfare mothers with 5-7 kids in the “hood” spreading their criminal and gangsta plague. Christians are too stupid and locking in ideological moralism to realize that abortion is good and could be better if focused more in certain groups of the country.

I am glad she saw the truth and stopped

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http://www.houstoncoalition.com
http://www.sacfl.org

check out these great websites to see how you can help to end abortion

I’m surprized at the venom in the posts on this subject. Easy to hate when you don’t understand.

Abortion is not the “enemy.” The enemy is an unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancy.
Education and birth control will lower the abortion rate.

May her tribe increase!

listen up you fundies; “legal abortion reduces crime”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

Hey Jim,

You’re comments reveal the small size of your mind. In addition, click on the calendar app with your computer, and note the year. Its not 1600 anymore. What happened in the past, is just that. Move along into to the future with the rest of us, and quit trying to make anyone feel guilty about something they had no control over, and cannot change.

I like what Groucho Marx said. It sort of applies to you. “his mother should have thrown him away, and kept the stork”

Abortion is murder. End of story.

“Hey Baby Booomers, I hate to say it, but when you get euthanized in your old age because your kids don’t want to support you anymore, I want you to think about abortion, and remember, you tried to kill us, first.

Jim- personally? So by that you mean I did that? Shootttt I had no clue. Come on really? Go ahead and blame me for every other historical offense that has happened, ever, with your impeccable logic.

I had no opinion until I researched it, and I think through research of pro’s and con’s of abortion anyone can come of with the reasonable answer- Life begins at conception- it grows and develops into a human being, and the fact that their own mother chooses to end that life is so sad.

Anne can- HILARIOUS. “By the way, a group of us are going north to do abortions on polar bears…..BET YOU CARE NOW! hypocrite!!” Probably the funniest thing I have heard in a long time.

Hey Jim, what’s your point? Nobody wants to see Iraqi children killed either. And jesus with a small j, Christ went way out of His way to tell you about the adulturous gaze and hatred equals murder to point out that even the so called “smaller” offenses are big sins. Abortion wasn’t mentioned back then because something like that was so heinous it just wasn’t considered in their community…being a gay Isrealite wasn’t either.

Has it ever occurred to those of you who demand abortion for all any time anywhere without any restrictions to put all of your your dim wits together to figure out that it is possible to make a choice not to engage in irresponsible sexual behavior that results in the conception of a baby? If you were capable of grasping this apparently way too difficult concept you could avoid killing your babies. It is not their fault that their murderous parents are both irresponsible and dumber than a box of rocks.

What a stupid story. She didn’t see an ultrasound and change her mind, she got indoctrinated by some jesus freak and used this to push a new agenda. A woman should be allowed to do to her body as she sees fit. If you are religious and don’t want to have an abortion, then don’t. But keep your fairy-tale, make-believe god off my body because I think it’s all superstitious bs.

Abortion is murder. Simple as that. For all of you Christians out there who believe abortion is a woman’s right, would Jesus agree with you on that?

My prediction is that by the end of Obamanation’s reign, the left will be so emboldened they will – in frustration – finally respond “Yea, it’s a life, so what? I have a life too you know.” In a perverse way I can respect that more – from the standpoint of truth in that they are in complete denial today. Ironic how science has provided the light on this evil – and yet they continue to deny the truth.

Yea, it’s a life, so what? I have a life too you know.

One of the most argued topics in the world today is the topic of abortion. It’s a pretty black and white issue – abortion is either wrong, or right. People are either Pro-Choice or Pro-Life, Pro-Choice being for abortion, and Pro-Life being against abortion. My personal belief is that all human life is sacred, regardless of what stage it is in, and whether that life has any deformities. I hope that by reading my persuasive essay you will understand why I believe abortion is wrong.
I admit that I may be wrong when it comes to any argument, however the more I study abortion, the more I become convinced that life begins at conception and that after a child is conceived any termination of that pregnancy is murder. If I were wrong though, would that be as bad as a pro-choicer being wrong? I would just be guilty of trying to deny women a right that is generally based on convenience, whereas someone who is pro-choice is guilty of approving of the murder of millions of innocent children. What mistake would you rather make? What do you want on your conscience?
Abortion is a growing problem in this country – did you know that 22% of the pregnancies in our country end in abortion? And that only 0.3% of those abortions are because the mother was raped (which is a common argument people who are pro-choice have to convince us of the need for legal abortions!)? Did you know that in 1998, experts estimated that 43% of all women in the U.S. will have an abortion by the time they reach age 45?
Why is it a growing problem? Technically the number of abortions has been going down since 1980, especially since 1990. We have been legally aborting children since 1973 – how many of the millions of baby girls we’ve aborted would have ended up getting abortions? Of course the number went down. We are aborting some of the aborters! And while we keep getting abortions, more and more people are okay with it. It has become socially acceptable to brutally pull apart living human beings.
How are abortions performed? The most common form of abortion is called “Dilation and Curettage”, also referred to as D&C. D&C is the form of abortion where the cervix is stretched open, and then a curette, which is a loop- shaped steel knife, is inserted into the woman’s uterus. Her uterine wall is then scraped, which rips the fragile baby apart, and causes massive amounts of bleeding, requiring the mother to have a blood transfusion nearly 10% of the time. What happens to the pieces of baby? Thrown in a garbage can. Some people would argue that it is just a bunch of tissue – it isn’t alive yet! Not true; did you know babies develop a heartbeat 18-24 days after conception? Look at pictures of aborted babies; its not just a blob of tissue, it has hands, feet, little tiny toes. It requires nourishment, it grows, it needs a safe environment. Just like any other living being. What requires those things that isn’t alive? And at what point does the “fetus” or “tissue formation” become a baby? When it’s wanted? How many months along? At what age do we start protecting human life?
Another form of abortion is salt poisoning. A long needle is inserted through the mothers abdomen and a concentrated salt solution is injected into the amniotic sac. The baby then inhales the salt solution, which poisons it, and the outer layer of the skin is burned off. Brain hemorrhages are common. The death isn’t quick and takes an agonizing 60 minutes, a very long time for someone who has lived so short a life. The “mother” goes into labor the next day, delivering a dead baby. This is brutal – although I have found no proof that the child feels it, I have also found no proof that the child doesn’t feel it…nobody actually knows. I can’t imagine the child not feeling the burning at least partly, however.
How is this humane? Why are we letting people do this to our children? The children who are going to cure cancer, who are going to help the homeless, who are going to change the world? What if everyone has a soul mate, and mine was killed because he came at an inconvenient time? How is that justified?
Unfortunately, it often is justified. In my opinion, the arguments are weak.
One of the arguments that is used to justify abortion is “Abortion needs to be legal so women who become pregnant through rape and incest don’t have a horrible reminder of their experience.” This argument is weak because the baby did nothing. Eighty percent of women who are raped choose not to abort; less than one percent of abortions are because the mother was raped or the baby was incestuous. It is also a common belief that all babies conceived through incest will have birth defects. Actually, that is not true. While the chances of defects are higher than a regular birth, there is a high chance the babies will be born without abnormalities and can be adopted into a loving home. Being born with deformities generally only happens when incestuous acts have been a repeated pattern over several generations.
Another argument used to justify abortion- some children who are born will be a burden on their family, and some will die anyway; why make the family suffer? This second argument is weak because you never know how long someone will live- miracles happen all the time. Who are we to play God and decide who lives and dies? Should our society start killing off all the weak, all the burdensome? How is it more acceptable to kill a child with Down Syndrome in the womb, versus out of the womb? This is a personal subject for me, as one of my goals in life is to adopt a child with Down Syndrome. I see nothing burdensome about it; I can only see the blessings it would bring upon my family and I. Surely I am not the only person who shares that viewpoint? If you know someone with Down Syndrome, you know how incredibly special they are. People don’t just abort the babies with Down’s, they abort the babies with other diseases, babies that can be found homes, that can be loved and wanted. You may be too weak to carry the “burden” of a child diagnosed with a birth defect, but many, many others are strong enough to carry it.
A third argument people use to justify abortion would be “The population needs to be controlled! We have too many mouths to feed as it is!”. This last argument is weak because population is not a problem in the United States. We have a birth every 8 seconds and a death every 11 seconds. The population grows at a rate of less than one percent a year. Population growth and decline compares the replacement of the the current number of individuals of age to reproduce with the number of births- looking at it from that angle, our country is actually in a population decline.
Unfortunately for pro-choice activists, every argument they have is easily refutable. I don’t claim to be an expert on the subject of abortion, and I would find it easy to stand my ground on this subject, if necessary.
I am not just against abortion for the child’s sake. I am against abortion for the mother’s sake as well. Although pro-choice activists disagree with the belief that there is such a thing as post abortion syndrome, a significant number of women who have abortions feel grief and remorse afterward. The number of women suffering these problems after an abortion is currently unknown, due in part to the denial that this problem exists. I haven’t had an abortion, I don’t know what it is like. However, when I read the stories of women who have had an abortion and regret it, my heart breaks for the guilt they live with every day. One woman said, “Nine months ago I did the most unimaginable thing. I aborted my baby. And as I sit here today, I think about the wonderful gift from God that I would be holding and caring for. See, one thing they forget to tell you about abortion is that it is not over when the procedure ends. The abortion will last always. I yearn every day for that child that I thought I did not want or could not have at this time in my life. I want to hold my baby and I want to kiss my child’s sweet face.” It’s not just women who are pressured into abortion that regret it – it’s women who made the decision themselves, without prompting, in a moment of selfishness.

In the end, nearly 49 million humans have been killed by abortion in the U.S. alone since 1973. The number is growing rapidly every day. Every single one of those humans never got a chance to speak out. They never had the chance to be the friend of someone who is lonely. They never had the chance to help those in need. They never had the chance to be the love of someone’s life. They never had the chance – because someone had a choice.
How does knowing that 49 million people have died because of abortion not bother everyone?! How does that not break our hearts? How do we live every day knowing that thousands around the world are being killed each hour? By supporting abortion we are supporting the deaths of the people who could have most made a difference in ours or our children’s lives. Are you ready to make that choice? If you are pro-choice can you honestly stand by that decision proudly?

What part of the country did this take place in? The news people almost seem like they are beaming while telling us this story. The reporter never takes a smile off her face, and the anchorman seems like he just got through with Sunday Mass.

Jim,

Atheists (Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.) have murdered more people in the last 100 years than have been killed by Christians in the last 2000 years. In fact the atheists in just 100 years have done that by a factor of 1000 or more.

I know its stylish to claim Christians are violent. The numbers say you are wrong. Christianity has contributed more to peace than any other philosophy in the history of the world. It’s not even arguable.

Maybe Mr. Obama should view that…he says to kill them even if they survive the abortion!

MK- Really? It’s not about religion. While it is true that the majority of Christians don’t believe in being pro-choice, a lot of atheists are against being pro-choice too! Calm down kiddo.

Liberals, you can criticize Christians as much as you want. You think that you are not a hypocrite because you have no moral standard? Perhaps you are not a hypocrite, but you support the killing of the innocent. You are afraid to look at the consequences of what you support. You are no different than those German people who looked the other way when the evidence of the holocaust was right there in front of them. Yes, you support the killing of the innocent.

To anyone who says abortions can’t be made illegal because the women who try to perform them on their own may die… two things to consider here. First, that would be Darwinism in full affect. This isn’t the 40’s where fathers beat their daughters to death for getting pregnant. There are resources for those that do. Maybe nature weeds out those unstable enough to take the life of their own child. Secondly, if abortions WERE illegal, I believe that there would be far less accidents. Too many people consider abortion their plan b, a back-up, or a form of birth control and it is just sickening to my heart that we all stand by and defend it. At what point does taking the life of another become black and white?

DRP:

Explicit ongoing consent? When I woman becomes pregnant she gives her consent by DECIDING TO HAVE SEX. After she co-creates a human being she can’t kill the being that she has brought into the world. Can I withold that consent from my toddler? My five year old? My seventeen year old? You’re a bit of a monster.

Something can be moral and have nothing to do with “religious” as in the term “ethical.” Read some Aristotle or something. Anything.

DRP: “I have yet to see a pro-lifer give a valid reason for why my right to control what uses my body by consenting to that use (and my right to remove that which uses it when consent is not provided)should be removed.”

Galatians 5:19 “Now the works of the flesh are evident wich are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries and the like; of which I tell you that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsufering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.”

Jesus can set you free. You just have to ask Him and turn away from your sin.

I can’t believe this is news. A woman changed her mind.

I do remember reading in the Denver Weekly News a while ago how the Planned Parenthood was a branch of the KKK.Another way for them to do their dirty work on the under so most people who aren’t up on this kind of stuff would catch on.

When I was 20 I went to work for a clinic the performed abortions. I thought I could be support for these women during a very difficult decision. After three years of this I had to leave. Most patients were in the 20-30 age group, educated with good jobs, and were just not ready for a baby. We had many women who had cheated on their boyfriends and got pregnant. I saw not one situation that include incest, rape, or put the womens physical life in danger. But on the side of the woman. The staff did whatever they could to sell these ladies on the idea of abortion. Income from abortions helped to keep our GYN clinic going. When the same women came in for 3,4 5, and more abortions. I just couldn’t take it any longer. I was resentful, and judgmental, and knew I had to leave. But trust me, we educated them on birth control. YOu can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. FYI, abortion is not for me. If anyone is to judge or punish, it will be God.

Apparently the headline writer knows something about this story that the video doesn’t mention. Nowhere in this video does she say she saw an ultrasound of an abortion, nor does anyone else say this.

Wow, I just read some of the above comments and all I can say as a born-again Christian is I’ve never read such vitriol and hate and I’m shocked that most of these comments are made in God’s name. Don’t speak in hate and then claim to do it in the name of God.

“we need you to get more abortions thru the door”. Nice. I suspect the reason they are so anxious to stifle her is that people would be horrified if they knew what went on there.

I thank you Lord Jesus for bringing light into this womans life. Maybe more will see the light and more babies will live according to your plan.
PP is a mudering monster machine made by satan and his minions the people who see nothing wrong with abortion.

Hitler wasn’t an atheist.

And don’t forget how many innocent Iraqis George W. Bush is responsible for murdering.

I’ve always wondered why conservatives have no problem with Bush & Co slaughtering REAL babies and children in Iraq, but get upset when a woman aborts an inch-and-a-half-long fetus (the size of the fetus when 90% of abortions are performed).

Also, why don’t conservatives complain about the death penalty?

They’re not “pro-life,” they’re just “pro-forced-childbirth.”

Praise God!!! Awesome!!!!

Did you see the beauty coming through this womens face? Peaceful, glow about her. That’s what I call coming clean! Only the blood of Jesus and the truth of Gods word can do this. Having gone through post abortion counciling myself, I hope I look as good as she does.
Heard about this breaking news through this webcast, called stop the abortion mandate just a few min.’s ago. They were talking about her on there.
http://www.stoptheabortionmandate.com
Suggest everyone go and find out about this. NOW!

Lisa: I wouldn’t say most, but point taken. Too many born-again posts that spew hate. It is not how we are called to behave.

I’m sure Jesus wouldn’t support abortion…or torture, pre-emptive war, detainee abuse, and environmental degradation.

I’m also sure Jesus would support universal health care, raising the minimum wage, and progressive taxation.

The real question is, how have BOTH PARTIES so completely lost sight of simple moral principles? Do you REALLY think God loves capitalism and hates socialism? I seem to remember something in the Bible about taking care of the poor and rejecting greed.

Forget the mote in some liberal’s eye…take a look at the log in yours. http://www.newsprism.com

Anonymous said, “Being born with deformities generally only happens when incestuous acts have been a repeated pattern over several generations”

God said, “And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?” Exodus 4:11

So, of course, we also find that God said, “yea, let God be true, but every man a liar”

Is there anyone here who can open God’s Word and tell us the current abode, and future destiny of the aborted? It is in there, can you find it?

And by the way, Abby you ROCK!

Yes Virginia, IT IS a baby!

How awful that this story has an ad for abortions next to it. They’ve really got to fix that.

So…I guess all of you are not big fans of the “morning after” pill?!?!

How can a judge restrain this woman’s right to Freedom of Speech? How can the relatively recent manufactured “Right to Privacy” overrule The protection of the First Amendment?

No worries about going to jail. Truth should not be quenched. You need to speak loud and clear. Remember the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned numerous times for his faith. To quote Mr. Spock, “The needs of the many (the unborn), outweigh the needs of the few or the one.” Please be a voice to speak for the unborn. You know how these people operate, now use it for good.

goodness, this is a hateful thread. am i the only pro-choice republican here? i just dont see how its wrong. it seems to me that taking a life that isnt even a life yet is a better alternative than ruining the lives of the unprepared parents and the child who now has to live with them. and sure adoption is a great idea, theoretically. but from what ive heard, its ridiculously expensive. i recall a teacher of mine who adopted from russia, because after having to fly there and back several times in the process, it was still far less expensive than adopting an american child. i hope you dont read this and think i accept abortion as a simple alternative to safe sex and common sense. i just think that some people should absolutely not have children. when there really isnt any other way to deal with it, abortion just seems the better alternative to wrecking the lives of everyone involved.

Taliban – Christian – same thing.

“Now leave the rest of us alone! November 2nd, 2009 – 1:21 pm
If you don’t want to have an abortion, don’t have one. Whatever happened to the conservative Christian view of too much government interference? I guess that only holds true if you agree with the interfering.

What hypocrites you all are!”

Not at all. It is well within the Christian worldview to expect our government to protect the human right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The unborn child has a right to live, and that, being a more basic right than the pursuit of happiness, trumps the mother’s desire to be rid of her child. I’m not allowed to kill you, because you are a human being, endowed by your Creator with certain inaliable rights.

The difference between you and me is that I believe an unborn baby is a human being, and possibly you do not. Or you believe that it is a human being, but that a more powerful caretaker should legally murder him or her, due to his/her size, location, station in life, capacity, cost, which is very shaky legal ground, imo. I find it ludicrous that anyone would deny that the unborn baby is a human (it’s not a dog or cat), and that it is alive (you must kill it to have a successful abortion). So then, knowing that an unborn baby is a human being, we come to the concept of personhood, and any just person who agrees with the non-personhood must agree that personhood is not an intrinsic quality, but rather an extrinsic one. It is not surprising to me that teen suicide has increased along with the advent of legalized abortion. It is a powerful, subconscious statement to make about humanity.

Some of these posts are just so sad….like the one above by MK. This is a sad person inside. The good news is God is alive, and He loves everyone, even MK! If saying that makes me a Jesus freak, then I’m so very proud to be a Jesus freak!!! I KNOW THE TRUTH! It has set me free.

OK, on another note, if you want to make more money in your life so that you can give more (tithe) to your church or your favorite charity, then please check out my site: http://retirein10weeks.com I’m happily retired at the young age of 46 and life is good! Thank you, Lord :)

//Except in cases of prima facie threat to one’s life, self defense must be justified in court. The use of force must be both reasonable and proportional to the threat, and the threat must be based in reality. Thus, the use of unrestrained, deadly force can only be even potentially justified if the target is a clear and present danger to the life of the one using force, or of some bystander. Furthermore, self defense ends when the threat ends, even to the point where one is legally required to call an ambulance for someone they just shot, even if that person was clearly trying to kill the shooter, once the threat to the shooter has been neutralized by putting the assailant on the ground.//

Analyzing it from a subjective viewpoint — that of our law — the Supreme Court has found Constitutional support for abortion rights. That aside, since it is the target of the anti-abortion groups to overturn Roe, there are precedented laws which protect women’s rights in similar situations; for example, if a woman is bodily infringed upon by another individual, self-defense law gives her the right to protect herself by physically separating herself from that individual — regardless of the individual’s intent or condition, EVEN if the woman caused some debilitation in that individual — because we individually are recognized to be the sole owners of our own bodies. Any woman is therefore entitled to physical separation from anyone or anything which is physically impacting her body, by right to self-defense; abortion is the same principle, but since the separation itself cannot result in a live delivery (except after viability, at which point Roe requires delivery if doing so will not jeopardize the woman’s life), abortion is actively safer than attempting intact extraction of a guaranteed-stillborn embryo/fetus. Second, there is no standing precedent that allows any living human being — let alone one which has no cerebral cortex or cortical function — to own or control any organ in another individual’s body against their will. If I require a lung to live, and yours is the only match for me, my “right to life” does not under any circumstance trump your legal ownership of your lungs, including if you are the one who has caused me in some way to need your lung, and there is no legal basis from which to argue otherwise. There is therefore no basis from which to assert that an embryo/fetus has rights to use a woman’s uterus against her will, regardless of its circumstance.

//Furthermore, consent to an act is prima facie consent to its consequences. The consequences of an act ipso facto cannot be separated from the act itself. While a person may have the right to attempt to mitigate the consequences of a bad decision (depending on whether or not the means in question infringe on another person’s rights), you have no inherent right to escape consequences, or pick and choose said consequences. Therefore, there it is a non-sequiter, and a very absurd one, to say that consent to sex=consent to miscarriage, ergo abortion should be legal per the extension of the woman’s right to a miscarriage.//

Again, recognition of consequences has nothing to do with denying the ability to mitigate unwanted results from those potential and unlikely consequences. A consequence of walking down stairs is sometimes falling and breaking a bone, so should you have to just accept that your bone is broken, or seek medical treatment to correct your health? Just like putting on a condom — the risk still exists, you simply prepare for it. Are you saying that people who look both ways when crossing a street should be able to get medical treatment after being hit by a car, but those who fail to look should not? In America, the ambulance comes for everyone. Demanding that women not have sex to avoid pregnancy and denying them medical treatment for a resulting unwanted condition makes no more sense then telling an accident victim, ‘too bad, you should have stayed in your house.’

Oh lordy all the relgionilist are in a tizzy. where are all you loud mouths when the acual live kids are are foundering in orphanages and the POW camps known as foster homes? Eh you bunch of hypocrital, two faced slimy relgionilist? Maybe if you put the fake instruction manual, written by men by the way not some fictious being in the clouds, down for a second and actually opened your eyes to what’s happening in the world maybe you would do something instead of preening on websites like limp plummaged peacocks.

All you gloating relgionilist are disgusting subhumans, it doesn’t matter which fictious “god” you kowtow to. You are all a bunch of unthinking uncritical rubes. It doesn’t matter if your fictious “god” name is allah, god, vishnu, yahweh, haysus whatever. You are are horrible things that make the world a worse place for you being in it.

Anonymous…nice appeal to emotion. Maybe next time you’ll try using supporting your thoughts with some legal precedent. Your ideology has no bearing on the lives of totally uninvolved people without both medical and legal support for your arguments, neither of which can you present.

Lisa November 2nd, 2009 – 11:08 pm
“God is alive, and He loves everyone”

Lisa, you have called God a liar and you don’t even know it, and you probably won’t even believe it, though His Word tells you so.

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

HE HATES SINNERS, THOSE VERSES SAY SO!

He hates righteously, not selfishly as men do, but HE DOES HATE!

Lisa, stop being a fool for the devil!

Satan wants the whole of humanity to think they are all God’s beloved! But God says the FEAR of HIM is the beginning of wisdom!

Psalm 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom

The SUBJECT of the Word of God is GOD, NOT MAN! Try reading His Word with that thought in mind!

So how much longer will we as a modern society allow this legalized murder to continue?

Too bad none of you “christians” give a damn about the children once their already born. It’s all about controlling people’s lives like slaves to you.

PS:

Anti-Choice Pastor is a PEDOPHILE:

http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_13679014

“Don’t abort that baby. I want to rape it when it’s three!”

Looked a lot like a murder, didn’t it!

For the pro-choicers passionately advocating access to abortion services-
At one point you were a fetus in your mother’s womb. You were completely dependent on her for your development and growth. You deserved a shot at life. She decided to give birth to you (instead of having you destroyed in one of the grotesque procedures described at length on this blog). And now the rest of us are forced to listen to your rambling, incoherent rants. But I’m glad you are here, and I’m pretty sure you are too.

Abortion was much more prevalent and commonplace in first century Greek and Roman culture then it is now, and yet Jesus and the Apostles say nothing about it in the Bible. If Abortion is unspeakable evil, why is it not explicitly singled out by the writers of the New Testament? We hear about the mass killing of a bunch of first born babys by Herod, but while thousands of abortions went on each day, the Bible remained silent on the subject of abortion.

This inevitably brings up the question of why is abortion such an important subject for today’s Christian when nothing is said of it in the Bible. Yes there are verses about being “fearfully and wonderfully made”, but nothing that explicitly condemns abortion.

@ AJ Simkatu November 2nd, 2009 – 8:16 pm
It’s none of your business to even know if a woman is pregnant or not to begin with. No woman should be forced by her rapist to feed and carry his child to conception. What a woman does to her own body with the help and consent of her doctor is her own business.
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(a) if Pelosi’s HEALTHCARE/INSURANCE REFORM BILL passes, your last sentence will no longer be relevant
(b) barry soetoro aka/alias barack hussein obama intends to sign away U.S. Sovereignty, and hand us over to a one-world government “lock, stock, and barrell” through Pelosi’s BILL
(c) government-paid abortions (via taxpayers) will be part of the package, and what a woman wants or does not want will be irrelevant to “the state”

Once a Community Organizer, Always a Community Organizer
“Antagonize-Intimidate-Manipulate” – “Disrupt-Dismantle-Defeat”
* * * * * * * * * * * * *
“And he called for his fiddlers, three.”

“And all who loved AMERICA arose, as one, to “Defeat-Dismantle-Destroy” the Enemy”

TO OUR TROOPS: May GOD – THE ONLY LIVING GOD – Go before you, behind you, beside you, with you.
“S-A-L-U-T-E!”

Make each child a wanted child?
hmmmmm. What if the woman thinks she wants the child, the child is born then she decides she deosn’t? Can she kill it then. After all, it can’t feed itself, or cloth itself or take care of itself. It’s not like it’s a ‘real’ person…right? Sorry, the inconvenience of a woman who ‘doesn’t want to be bothered” doesn’t really concern me. Victims of rape and incest yes, they concern me. There has to be ways that we can take circumstance into consideration. but a blanket okay to repeat abortions, to late term abortion, (which is outright murder…murder our current president supports) is vile. You talk about war as an acton on par with the murder of the innocent. It’s not equivelant. Just like the death penalty is not equivelent. The reason liberals go off the rails so frequently in regards to the difference between war, abortion and the death penalty, is that they fail to see the difference between guilt and innocence. We are in Afganistan because a cruel and oppressive regime allowed terrorists to set up camp on their soil and then murder 3000 INNOCENT PEOPLE. These same terrorists hide amongst the civilian population and regularly murder children ON PURPOSE. Do our soldiers hide behind women and children, NO. A woman going into an abortion clinic to kill an unwanted baby in the 6th month because she doesn’t want to be bothered to carry it to term and give it up for adoption is guilty of carelessness in her personal life, so now she is going to murder her unborn child to cover her own mistake. A person on death row for the murder of a child is there because he is GUILTY OF MURDER. The child he killed is guilty of nothing but being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You see, good and evil & right and wrong. That is where you guys lose the thread. The bible in the greek does Not say “thou shalt not kill”.
It says “Thou shalt do no murder.”
That is what abortion is…MURDER.
In the bible it says….man is made in God’s image, and if a man sheds another man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

“I am sure if christians used half their brain, they might be able to watch the news and see that certain segments of society cause most of the violent crimes, especially in the inner-cities and that the abortion rate is high there, but not high enough. It should be higher, there are too many welfare mothers with 5-7 kids in the “hood” spreading their criminal and gangsta plague. Christians are too stupid and locking in ideological moralism to realize that abortion is good and could be better if focused more in certain groups of the country.”

Actually, I agree that single motherhood is one of the greatest economic problems of the inner city, and I assert that traditional Christian morality of a committed, married, faithful, responsible mother and father for every child would solve the problem within a few generations. Another way to solve the problem would be for all women everywhere to unite and refuse to date, have sex with, or marry, any guy who wasn’t responsible, kind, skilled, respectful, and pure. (I can dream–(: ). I realize that isn’t going to happen, short of a miracle, but both my statements are true, and they are THE cost-effective answer that would solve the problem. Fatherlessness is THE primary cause of crime and poverty, regardless of race.

I do NOT propose any kind of government intervention that would force either of the above suggestions. People have to want it, and in our culture, they don’t. Now they (and all of us) live with their consequences with crime, taxes, etc. I can only influence my own sphere, which does include some of the problem, but I can’t change the whole culture, but I don’t have to agree with it, and I don’t have to be quiet about it.

Per your suggestion, the only way that abortion would reduce harmful populations would be to have forced abortions, which I oppose on moral grounds, as well as civic grounds. Go live in China, if you prefer its enlightenment to the States. The idea of forcing abortions on certain segments of society is utterly repulsive and counter to my worldview. Is that what you propose?

I believe legalized abortion removes a natural and important barrier to sexual promiscuity–the fear of getting pregnant with the wrong person, or before one is ready. At the start of any sexual tryst, when one thinks about the possibility of children, there is always that, “I could always have an abortion and no one would know”. I don’t propose government forcing any morality on anyone, but I do not support them removing natural consequences that might encourage a natural cultural trend toward sexual responsibility.

The promiscuous culture is so entrenched now, I’m not sure what the answer is–the generational impact is devastating, however, and as a public school teacher, I have observed this first hand. I simply can’t agree with a goverment law that removes natural consequences in ways that are devasatating to children.

If everyone who is AGAINST abortion would just put their name on a national registry of available adoptive people, to be picked at random when there is a girl in trouble we would not have abortion clinics ! But you are all too afraid you might get picked to care for a child you do not care about!!! Just like the underage , raped or unwilling girl who got pregnant . You are all TWO FACED hippocrits. You want what you want, but not ever willing to do your part, but piss and moan about killing unwanted babies. If you do not want to have it aborted ADOPT it, for god’s sake. You are the ones who are telling these girls to keep what they DO NOT WANT. You all disgust me!!

My, my, people are so self-righteous & judgmental on this topic, no matter WHICH side they are on!

THE TRUTH of the matter is:
1. Yes, a potential human being is KILLED in an abortion. (WHAT IDIOT does not GET THAT??)
2. Sometimes abortion IS NECESSARY. (WHAT IDIOT does not GET THAT??)
No female of any age should be FORCED to carry & deliver a fetus that is the product of rape or incest. (Don’t quibble about how “rare” those cases are! They are a lot more common than you know, and besides, if it were YOU, you would WANT the option of abortion!)

3. Some idiot wrote, “Abortions are ghastly. Crushing the head and dismembering the body.” (WHAT IDIOT wrote that??)

Abortion is not necessarily “ghastly.” Sometimes (usually) it is done VERY EARLY ON, and amounts to nothing more than a “vacuum-like extraction”… Why bring up GHASTLY IMAGES when more often than not, the procedure is LESS GHASTLY THAN A LIPOSUCTION PROCEDURE?

Bottom line: It is NOT *YOUR* DECISION OR CHOICE or OPINION that matters; it is the decision, choice, opinion of the female involved that matters.

END OF DISCUSSION.

Is there any argument against abortion that doesnt mention god, cause here i thought america was founded to get away from religious prosecution of ones rights. This isnt made to start a fight, just let me know the scientifically based side.

I was once indifferent–until I had the guts to learn what it really is all about and it was the same reaction this woman is describing.

Abortion is murder of, and for convenience–pure and simple. DARE to face what it really is and then decide, as this woman has. It is the most brutal, heinous act of selfishness imaginable. Why not give birth to them and have them adopted? How can you live with yourself after making such a “choice”? Have you really ANY idea of what you are choosing to do, or are you being told that this is a “strong” decision and your nerves palliated by those in our society who specialize in rationalizing away responsibilities beyond oneself–against making tough decisions that require pain and personal sacrifice and instead those that are quick, easy, expedient and oh yes, “painless”

But who else would support it other than liberals? The single most self righteous, self absorbed, ungrateful, cynical, whiny, wimpy, dishonest, pathetic pieces of **** this country has ever had the misfortune of having to tolerate.

I am not a religious person AT ALL. But I know right from wrong, and may the wrong be pulverized and swept into the garbage before they destroy everything.

Legalized murder.

Hmmm, let’s examine a legal murder, the most hideous legal murder.

Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. John 19:11

Jesus Christ was murdered legally. And He told His murderers that God gave His murderers power to murder Him!

Not only that they were given the power to murder Him, but He paid a tax to the tyrant under whose power these murderers did their murdering.

And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s. Matthew 22:20-21

The tax Christ paid went into the local treasury, from which supplies were purchased, supplies such as wood and nails.

Get it?

Did Christ’s followers organize protests of crucifixions? Attempt to make crucifixions illegal?

No. Thousands of Christians were crucified soon after Christ was.

What did God tell these Christians to do regarding the tyrant that was crucifying them?

1. Make war on the tyrant?
2. Become ruler in place of that tyrant?
3. Honor that tyrant?

1 Peter 2:17 …Honour the king

Still waiting. The Bible clearly states where the ‘aborted’ go.

Somebody must know, among all ya’ll Christians

Dear Come on People Get Real

YOU are are the idiot. Comparing Lipo to abortion? Is that supposed to be funny? Abortions in the case of the mother’s health or rape? VERY, very small percentage. Most are poeple who simply don’t want to face up to the consequences of their actions.

Comparing fat to fetuses? Maybe in your case that is a fair comparison.

**** YOU!

If adoption is such a good choice why not practice what you preach? Or is it a “oh they can be adopted, but not by me” kinda thing?

http://ouradopt.com/adoption-blog/apr-2009/angelaw/international-adoption-statistics-2008

because it kinda looks like that says

A.) we only adopted 6000 kids
and
B.) were adopting less

so what is a better moral decision? Let them live in poverty, fatherless motherless and directionless in life? Or abort? It is the heaviest of decisions.If this was a perfect world then no fetus would need be aborted, since every life is precious and one aborted fetus could be the next Einstein, but since this is far from that, maybe having the decision is the only choice we really have. Let me know what you think

I laugh at your judgemental attitudes. No one has the right to tell a woman what is best for her or her unborn baby. Unless you have been burdened with the thought of terminating a pregnancy (perhaps the child has a serious deformity, or is the product if incest or rape), you need to shut up! You religious conservatives are hypocrits and need to open your eyes to reality.

When conscience and grace collide, miracles happen.

+1 for andy

Alongcameablitherer

Hah? Wha? Read it four X.

Nothin’.

The bible sais the bible sais Why is religion always brought up???? This issue has nothing to do with religion.

To Shelley: Size matters? A 19″ long infant shouldn’t be killed, but a 1.5″ fetus living inside its mother is disposable? By this logic, then it can be argued that an fully-grown adult shouldn’t be killed, but a much smaller, completely dependent infant is disposable. If it’s a human being, then it’s a human being, no matter what its size or stage of development.

Kirby has the right idea

I am not religious. I do not pray. I do not like war. I am not liberal. I am not conservative. I am not gay. I am not straight. I am just a human being, like those babies. Please, do not kill them. Help the pregnant teenagers to make a decision they can live with. Educate them. Love and tolerance are the answers.

Planned Parenthood — what an cruel twist on words. If it’s “parenthood” then you’re a parent. If you’re a parent, then you have a baby. If you have a baby, then abortion is murder.

Please, dear Jesus, change more hearts in the PP ranks.

Wow: Then why judge ANYTHING. Abortion for severe health/rape reasons? Acceptable under the circ.. All others are murder like any other kind. Will it go on? Probably. Do I have to shut up and accept it? NO. Never will now that I know what I know and have seen what I have seen.

D: who are you talking to? Are you claiming that adoption is not a viable option? Adoption has become an incredibly difficult process–long drawn out and totally exhausting. Unfamiliar with your “source” but 100% certain the waiting line is longer than ever.

BTW: I’m not religious at all

I don’t think most women ‘don’t think a fetus is a child’. It’s the early stages of life. It’s dependent on the woman for survival. It’s a legal procedure and HEY I think what really bothers you bible thumpers is that women KNOW it’s a child and don’t care about your god or your hell…..I mean it’s not like someone can have a different belief from you oh no! You better hurry up and get us all converted. Fascists.

Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.

Kirby, ya dolt, you are going to find out that everything between your first breath and your last has to do with HIM! every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

And since you hold believers in derision, He will do the same to you!

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision – Psalm 2
The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming. – Psalm 37
thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision. – Psalm 59

Edword, are ya so stupid ya can’t make a sensible criticism?

HUH? Try a little harder will ya?

Webster,

Stupid,

Without understanding!

//Abortion is not necessarily “ghastly.” Sometimes (usually) it is done VERY EARLY ON, and amounts to nothing more than a “vacuum-like extraction”… Why bring up GHASTLY IMAGES when more often than not, the procedure is LESS GHASTLY THAN A LIPOSUCTION PROCEDURE?//

I just wanted to expand on this:

89% of abortions are performed prior to week 12
99% before week 21

The type of abortion the poster you replied to described makes up less than .3% of abortions.

“It is not our place to determine where someone else’s moral compass should point.” Dave, that is exactly the role of society. Even herd animals do this.

I don’t condone murder except for the death penalty, war and abortion. We don’t need more unwanted people. If anything, there are too many people walking around who should have been aborted to begin with and the world would be a much better place. And don’t dare to talk to me about God as 20,000 CHILDREN DIED OF STARVATION TODAY, AND 20,000 MORE WILL DIE TOMORROW. Do something about feeding those kids before you demand that more such children be brought into this world to endure suffering, misery, and insanely painful deaths.

In response to d’s link:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-18-mother_N.htm

“……demand for healthy babies continues to outstrip supply”

alongcameanamethatistoolong: I just can’t follow your language. Honestly. It is like some college preacher, all obtuse and shrouded in backwoods bellicosity. Write normally please.

@trollingstone, will you marry me?

Hey John, It’s US military personnel like me and the people I train making Iraqi kids safe. It’s you and your leftist twit cohorts who encourage and support the barbarians who are killing kids over there. I’ve done dozens of post blast investigations at sites where children were killed by Muslim terrorists. I’ve NEVER seen a child killed by my fellow troops. Try reading a book instead of a bumper sticker and quit drinking the leftist Democrat koolaid. Leftism killed nearly half a billion people in the last century. All the crusades and other religious conflicts in history barely equal Stalin’s balance sheet of death. Lump in Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler and all the other communist and socialist regimes and the death toll you idiots claim for Christianity barely counts as a percentage in spite of a 2000 year head start. Never mind the continuing toll of leftist supported abortion.

Cry

I awake, warm and tender
The covering around me
is soft yet tight, Secure.
My mother gently touches my shoulder
I roll. I kick. I yawn
With no sound
The lights are on. I can
See the subdued shadow
Through tight clenched eyes.

We’re stirring now. I hear
The murmur of soft voices
Off in the distance. Louder
Now, but still comforting.
In my sleepy state
The vibrations seem to
Go through me but
They are like fingers
Massaging me.

It’s later now, the cover is
Still tight but I can feel
The touch.
Only, its not the gentle
Strokes from before. It’s
Rougher, poking almost.
And then it happens. I’m
Jarred awake. A flash.
My ankle’s being crushed
And then a pull. I
Paw to find something
To hold onto but
There is nothing.
Everything is smooth
I flail. I stir.
But to no avail
There it is again
A harder pull, more pain.

I look down unseeing. My foot
Is being drawn. I scream but
It is a silent scream. No one
Hears – or so it seems. No
One comes – only tears. My
Tears. Now more twisting
And turning and I’m being
Pulled. I feel it now. A
Piercing pain in the back of
My skull. “Ouch!” I scream

“Let me go!” “Momma!” I shout.
But only silence. I kick. I scream
Again, but there is only more pain
A piercing pain, a jab, a thrust!
“Please stop!” I scream in a final
Cry.

I’m awake now – I’m embraced in
A soft-warm Light.
My ankles better. I rub my head. There’s
No pain now. I look down and
See the lifeless body being pulled from
My mother’s womb. I feel the gentle
Touch on my shoulder. I turn
Startled but secure. Jesus is
Weeping as He pulls me to His
Breast. “Welcome home
My child. I love
You so.”
He leads me home
To my very own
Room.

My mother awakes from
The trance.
The one who conceived
Me now weeps.

“Rest, dear mama,
I’m okay.” I sit
At Jesus’ feet, no more to
Cry.
I pray one day
You will be
Here too.

Life on earth, I
Did not know –
But to those who
Aborted me I hold
No malice.
For behold the blood, behold the chalice.
It is full of forgiveness. It is full with
Jesus’ Blood. For He too
Was pierced – for you.

There are a lot of good questions by pro-choice people: such as “Abortion was much more prevalent and commonplace in first century Greek and Roman culture then it is now, and yet Jesus and the Apostles say nothing about it in the Bible. …This inevitably brings up the question of why is abortion such an important subject for today’s Christian when nothing is said of it in the Bible. Yes there are verses about being “fearfully and wonderfully made”, but nothing that explicitly condemns abortion.”

This is a good point, and I think the basic answer is that it is a legal injustice occurring on a massive scale. Many Christians fought slavery as well (and many Christians supported it, also, to my great shame), although the Bible doesn’t explicitly appear to condemn it (I don’t know why). The bottom line is, we have a God-centric view of the cosmos, and a good measure of human-centric view, as we were created in God’s image, His magnum opus, if you will. Whenever a human life is unjustly marred, it is an affront to God, and it must be opposed by His people, however scrappy and foolish we may appear. I don’t think that Roe v. Wade will be overturned at this time in history, although I am sure that it seemed that slavery would never be outlawed, either, but I certainly support full disclosure before abortions, waiting periods, parental notification laws, routine ultrasounds offered, and adoptive counselling.

I think some of the horror of abortion for me is that an unborn child is a human being in his most innocent form–he or she did nothing to deserve to die–hasn’t even had a chance to pee on his mommy’s shirt yet. She is also the most vulnerable human being. I have a 12-week-old baby, and he is helpless, but he has one weapon–his cry. It gets to me, and forces me out of bed when I would rather sleep, and makes me cook dinner one handed while bouncing him on my hip because I can’t stand that cry. When he was unborn he didn’t even have the chance to be heard. That’s why I am vocal about abortionto be the voice for the voiceless. I fully believe that an unborn child is a human being with personhood. I understand that many do not agree with me, or they don’t want to think about it too much, but an abortion to me invokes the same horror as you might feel about a political candidate who suggests that a mother should be able to kill her child up until 3 months, or 40 days, or 1 year–you name the time. We pro-lifers have some crazies talking passionately, but I certainly hope people would go a little crazy if killing a newborn or young child by the mother became legal. The other aspect of abortion I find so chilling is that the mother is one person in a child’s life who is particularly responsible to advocate and have compassion on a child. The father also, in the way abortion is carried out, is often marginalized, and he deserves a say in his child’s life. Also, abortion hurts women, some in particular are psychologically negatively affected (see operationoutcry.com), and some women are pressured to have abortions by family members and by abusive sexual partners.

I think abortion is a symptom of our culture gone awry, and as I mentioned earlier, legalized abortion removes the natural consequences that might guide a culture to more sensible sexual and faithful behavior which clearly benefits children economically and personally, so I oppose it.

What about the back-street abortions that occurred before legalized abortion? First, one of the men who disseminated information about the large numbers of dangerous abortions later recanted, and stated that they had inflated the numbers for political purpose. Second, the government is to protect life. We (yet) don’t go making safe suicides for teens just because some teens kill themselves. We hope for something better, and in the same way, the government should not remove negative consequences for those who act foolishly or desperately–it serves as a learning opportunity for others, and shapes a culture in reality, which is its best bet for success.

It is terribly tragic when a woman sticks a hanger up her vagina to kill her unwanted baby and thus dies herself. Nonetheless, it’s not the basis for good law. Culturally, you can look at her choices: 1. Have sex with the wrong guy (majority of abortions are not related to rape). 2. Try to hide the natural consequences and kill the baby in a foolish way. IMO what should have been done would be to then educate other women on the dangers of these choices, and let reality guide culture back to more responsible sex where young people might think a little more soberly about sex. But Roe v. Wade came on the heels of the sexual revolution, and it seemed “impossible” for young people to grow into this responsibility, so the judiciary took the easy way out. It seems to me that the demand is to have sex without consequence, which I think defies the natural laws of our planet, and we are reaping the whirlwind. A really thoughtful read on the topic is “Love and Economics: Why the Laissez Faire Family Doesn’t Work.”

Some have complained the pro-lifers don’t care when Iraqi children die, and what are we doing about all the unwanted children in the cities? My family has adopted a Kurdish girl; I personally know of many Christian, pro-life organizations who are working in the inner city to mitigate the challenges of at-risk city kids. Before I had children, I worked at such a place where our students, who were all at risk kids in a ghetto district did 5 times better than their public counterparts at a 2/5s of the cost. I know of conservative women who have had abortions who spend their free time counselling women who are thinking about abortion, or who have had them. My dad started a clinic for the poor that continues to this day, and I know many pro-lifers for whom compassion is a way of life. You don’t hear about us in the news because it isn’t news. I wish it were news that 50 million babies in America have been killed since Roe v. Wade. All other injustices just pale in comparison. I do not see how abortion can ever heal any social injustice. You simply cannot solve an economic injustice with a moral injustice. How are city kids supposed to have any hope if they know that if their mother didn’t want them, their life would be worth a plug nickel? No wonder our youth are lost and insecure. Security comes from knowing one is unconditionally loved and accepted–if abortion is legal, then the government is making a basic statement that human life is not intrinsically valuable–that being poor is worse than being dead. How will this ever alleviate poverty?

I do not understand how people can justify this, but I accept that I am in the minority,and welcome the opportunity to have a dialogue about it as opposed to yelling at each other!
Must sleep before my 12-week-old wakes up.
Lori

Something like this taking place in Texas? SHOCKING!
Also shocking that the Drudge Report would put this story as one of it’s top headlines.

Dear DRP,
I am sorry to tell you that week 12 in not “that” early on. Have you seen an ultrasound in the week number 10 with a baby with legs and arms? in the week number 6, with a heart beating?
I do not blame you if you do not know this, because this is the reason why so many people think that abortion is not a “biggy”. You dare to compare it with liposuccion- fat vs a human life….how sad is your thinking…..Did you ask your mother if she felt you as fat when she was pregnant with you??

James Ryan

And instead of focusing on starvation deaths, this country is fixated on Health Care. Why? Isn’t food a more primary need? Sure it is. But the starving class has no power. Govt. provided healthcare and the govt control it brings is the selfish motive that fuels it. Those on the left who demand it have no problem feeding and sheltering themselves. I demand that we should focus on providing the poor and homeless with food and shelter before anything. Makes sense doesnt it? Well, surprise! It’s not ABOUT SENSE.

PP = Glengarry Glenross

“Coffee is for closers. You think I’m effing with you? I’m from downtown. I’m from Mitch and Muary”

That had to be one hell of a sales meeting. Yes. Sales meeting.

“Go out and get us some more fetus’s…What are we paying you people for??? Get them! NOW! OR IT’S YOUR JOB!!!”

Hey Betsy, what about the “planned and wanted” children who get abused? If abortion is supposed to prevent child abuse, how do you explain the fact that since Roe Vs Wade, child abuse went up? Not down–UP! In fact, most child abuse cases happen to children who were “planned and wanted.”

And to all of you women out there who are worried about “unwanted pregnancies,” –DON’T SPREAD YOUR LEGS IF YOU CAN’T HATCH THE EGGS! Babies shouldn’t have to die because you want to be a slut! If you don’t want to get pregnant, then keep your legs closed! It’s that simple! Otherwise, get your tubes tied! Then you will never again have to worry about unwanted pregnancies!

Besides, there are all kinds of non-abortifacent means of contraceptives out there. Learn how to use them.

And one other thing, many conservatives do talk to their children about sex. They just don’t want the ultra-liberal public schools to do it, because of the immoral stuff they teach. I personally don’t have a problem with sex-ed in school, so long as they stick to the biological, medical aspects of it, and refrain from undermining the values that the parents teach their kids.

Europe killed 7 million Jews in the NAZI era. God saw this and said, “OK, you don’t want Jews … I’ll give you Moslems.”

America killed 45 million of its unborn children in the last 3 decades. God saw this and said, “OK, you don’t want your own babies … I’ll give you 45 million Mexican babies from illegal settlers on your land!”

ahhh too many religious nuts on this thread…planned parenthood has to clean up the mess of a society that never taught kids proper birth control, or provided them with the proper resources. Public schools in the south that are ran by the churches are the biggest culprits.

Yes welcome home. I couldn’t have said it better. Geniusofthecrowd & D&C people like you make me sick to my stomach. You will soon find that some of us Christians refuse to always turn the other cheek. You just keep pushing and pushing and you will see the wrath of God my friends.

I respect and love my Creator, that gave me life, the chance to live, to see the good and to see the evil, to come to know myself, and I would never say I was anything less than completely thankful and grateful to God for making me.

Take a baby’s DNA in the womb and compare it to that same baby when
he or she is 2 or 5 or 25 or 105. It will be the exact same DNA!
This proves that a fetus is a human being!
Libs like to bemoan back alley abortions done with coat hangers.
There has never been a back alley abortion done with a coat hanger.
You have to use a scissors! What offended the PP former pres was the
cutting off of the arms and legs and the struggle the human baby put up
while showing obvious pain and suffering! Every school child should be exposed
to ultra sound abortions! Every potential mother should be required to
watch one then she should be given the same number of days that gun buyers are
given before they can have the guns they purchased. If this makes you sick
or mad you just might be a liberal.

“….you can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave”!!

all satanic cults work the same!

One more thing for libs to contemplate. Do a DNA test on an undelivered baby
in the womb. Now do a DNA test on the mother. If the two are exact matches
then the mother can do what ever she wants to do. If however, the DNA just
happens to be different then the mother is not doing to her own body but to the
body of a seperate living human being. If this makes you sick or mad you just might be
a liberal baby murderer!

http://911essentials.com says now if we could get the big tough soldiers that are killing innocent men, women, children and animals to do the same, we’d be on our way to less death and destruction everywhere.

Stop killing people. What a concept.

This makes me feel so good. Finally some good news. Hallelujah !! Congratulations on your awakening.

“religious nuts”? so caring for a baby makes you a religious nut? and legalized, constitutionally-protected infanticide makes you what? enlightened?

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yeah! this story has entered the popular today section on popurls.com…

Praise the Lord!

“…issued temporary restraining orders by Planned Parenthood…” Since when does Planned Parenthood have the power / authority to ISSUE restraining orders? I’m sure they filed for one, but some judge ISSUED the order – poorly worded.

bible thumpers ftl…go get a clue…plz

There is a little light at the end of this very long, dark tunnel…. but it is getting brighter all the time. All can be forgiven…. they simply have to accept that they are doing wrong and abortion is murder,is evil.

“Hey, Common Sense, Christianity is still the biggest cult there is.”

Yes. Christianity is the cult of Jesus Christ. He is the “charismatic” Personality around whom Christianity is centered.
A “cult” is s system of religion. Generally used derogatorily about someone else’s religion. Like the evolution cult that teaches that you are descended from a rock.

“You dopes think that a day old fertilized egg that you can’t see without a microscope is ’special,’ too.”
You look pretty microscopic from the air, too, “It’s all how you look at it!” And the planet you live on looks pretty microscopic from only a few million miles away.

“‘No morning after pill for you, sweetie. I don’t care if you were raped!’”
Killing her child doesn’t un-rape her – it just makes her a murderess of the child her own body produced.

It used to be that people killed their children after they were born..the Catholic church actually had something called “forgiveness of sin for laying over” because so many women suffocated their new babies in bed when sleeping with them. Women will always find a way to get rid of children they don’t want. They always have, they always will. Yes, it is murder, just like all of the multitudinous forms of murder we have always condoned in every society in all of history. The people who are writing on this thread just don’t care about all of the rest of the forms of murder…just the ones that involve sex.

To all you intellectually dishonest Liberals: WATCH A ULTRASOUND ABORTION, then we’ll see if you feel like making more of your cold hearted wicked comments. My guess if you still have a heart you’ll be weeping or puking. But we all know you won’t because your selfish cowards.

I am so disgusted by how obviously right wing this website is.

People make choices based on their circumstances. Who are you people to judge?

To quote your pretend profit “let he without sin cast the first stone” You are all sinners in one way or another and you have no right at all to judge anyone….ever

It genuinely scares me that you people are intelligent enough to operate a computer and yet so closed minded you can’t consider the possibility that your “GOD” was invented by a bunch of guys with nothing else to do 5 thousand years ago.

You all look at religions like Scientology and cry “cult” and yet you refuse to concede that your very own religion is just as, if not more so, based on the beliefs of a guy in a room with an idea.

Modern Christian beliefs were carved and dictated by a Roman Emperor named Constantine. Not by an imaginary “son of god”

You people disgust me.

To those who say, we must never return to the days before legal abortions….Let’s truely examine how life has changed. Let’s compare the millions of innocent lives aborted to a handful of women who would mulitlate themselves to destroy the life they created. With todays contraception so easy to obtain and so effective, there really isnt any excuse for unwanted pregnancy. If fear of pregnancy would make a woman think twice, before having casual sex, then i say ” so be it”…she really should be fearing the diseases she is exposing herself to by being so CASUAL in her sexual encounters.
The Legal abortion industry was based on a flawed law based on a court case which was all a lie. ( read about the real Roe V Wade case). It needs to be thrown out, it is a bad law. Most of the country does NOT really support abortion. It is time to end this murdering industry.

It’s nice when you wake! I’ll never forget that moment.

Religion is the biggest problem this world has. It is the cause of every single war this world has ever seen. Do you think God, Buddha, Mohammed, and all of the other gods up there would look favorably on what has happened in their names?

And regarding the abortion issue, if society would spend more time teaching our children about how to use contraception, we’ll see less abortions.

Disgusted, we are called to judge all the time in this country. We have a system of laws and justice based upon judeo christian beliefs. ( you should count your lucky stars that you dont have to have your hand cut off or eye put out due to “circumstances” or that you dont have to be stoned to death)

Some day we will all face the Final Judgement, and i wonder how anyone will be able to defend taking the loss of an innocent baby.

What about the young mothers who can’t care for their kids? The ones who can’t afford it? The rape victims? And on top of that, the abortions are done before the fetus even develops the capacity for pain.

And Al, how dare you tell a rape victim what to do with her body. I do not begrudge any female who was raped to have an abortion. It’s not your business and it’s not my business. Leave her alone and get a life.

hannahAr… is your conscience clean? Did you abort a fetus? If not, then you’ll be fine come judgment day. Worry about yourself and leave others alone.

When are women who have had abortions going to start to sue P. Parenthood for insufficient information. It must make them sick when they are pregnant with later wanted babies to see the new 3-D ultrasounds.

I find it amazing that people will support abortion because they say the government shouldn’t interfere with their bodies, yet, these are the same people who support government run health care, where decisions about their bodies will be made a select few everyday! Hands off my uterus, but you can have all the rest?? Ridiculous….If more people actually saw what happens during an abortion or what the baby looks like after the abortion, they, too, would have a change of heart.

The enviro-whack-jobs have taken over the Democratic party. One of there goals is to limit the American population growth for the sake of the planet. There are several ways to do this and I will list the top three. 1. War (its not working the way they want it to) 2. disease (several new ones keep popping up every month)3. poor economy. The 3rd, poor economy, encourages people to have fewer children and more abortions. This is one of the main reasons I believe that the economical situation in this country is fabricated to start the slow process of lowering the population. There have been several stories in print about the rise of abortions in the U.S. due to the economy. The enviro-terrorists who work in the back-ground are very pleased to see that there strategy is working thanks in part to the Democratic party and the whack-a-doo leftist who knowingly or unknowingly aid in this plan.

What’s the difference if it’s a greedy corporation or a government entity who will make decisions about your body? I agree, ljr, that it should be left to each individual person to decide what is best for their body. We don’t know their circumstances.

hannahAr

Yes we have laws, which were decided on through a democratic process, which legalizes the thing you are up in arms about. Your problem is that PEOPLE are making decisions about what is best for PEOPLE. Rather than following some book PEOPLE wrote 5000 year’s ago which may have some relevance to today but only because there are some basic principals that all of humanity share.

When you start trying to use an ancient text to justify the rules society must follow today, regardless of what the origins of said dubious text is, you start to forget that PEOPLE make choices that effect PEOPLE not your “god”

Who say’s we will face judgment day? your false prophets and your imaginary god. I fear no evil for I am evil incarnate, just like you, just like everyone else.

Michael Corleone, you do realize that the economic downturn your country is facing is a result of Right Wing deregulation. If you had kept the checks and balances the liberals have always insisted on America would have known where all that money went and why it went there.

Also…. If it were a left wing conspiracy I assure you, we would have done a far better job.

I disagree with a total ban on abortion, what about pregnancies due to rape, should the rape victim be forced to carry an unwanted fetus to term ? I don’t think so…I also believe that abortion however should not be used as a means of birth control…

jeremy November 2nd, 2009 – 1:04 pm
kmichaels, most women who have abortions identify with Christianity as their religion. 30% of women who have abortions are Catholics. Are they ALL liberals? Of course not. Why parrots such as yourself consider abortion a liberal thing speaks volumes of your indoctrination.

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Whatever! But a ‘Christian’ most usually follows God’s Commandments and one of them is “Thou Shalt Not Kill”. Apparently, a ‘liberal’ who believes in abortion and gay marriage CANNOT be THAT ‘Christian’ in their beliefs/thoughts – these two acts are ABOMINATIONS to God; read the BIBLE!

morons.

i went thru an abortion. not fun, not pretty, but MY decision that was NOT made lightly. my dad had just committed suicide, followed by my sister. i had spent my whole life studying the violin and was playing professionally at the time, but at this time was drinking myself into an alcoholic stupor.

what you idiots might need to consider is that it was MY decision. if i had not had the legal option of that abortion, i would have been a suicide as well, no joke. OK, insert comments here … good riddance, etc. i believe my doctor recognized my suicidal tendencies and very carefully guided me through this time in my life. he DID NOT suggest abortion in ANY WAY. when i came to the decision, dollar signs DID NOT reflect in his eyeballs.

the only prayer i would say for any one of you idiots is: MAY YOU NEVER have to watch a woman you love, be it your mom, sister, lover, wife, aunt, cousin, or grandmother, lose COMPLETE physical and emotional control when she finds out she is pregnant by less than pretty circumstances. i spent three months doing everything physically possible to miscarry. i did not want to lose everything i had ever worked for, live in some rat-infested apartment somewhere, hate my life, hate myself, but especially resent an unwanted child. give the child up for adoption, you might suggest? in better circumstances, maybe, but in my very fragile state of mind, the fetus was nothing more than a parasite produced one drunken night with a man who, shall we say, was much less than a thoughtful lover. that’s right, that was my mindset. carrying around an unwanted child 24/7 x 9 months would have been a terrible reminder of a terrible night with a terrible man. hey, but what’s my sanity/life worth when compared to a non-sentient fetus? nothing much to you jokers, obviously.

wake up. dr. tiller said, paraphrasing here, that people who don’t respect a woman’s right to control her own body (read: live her OWN LIFE) don’t understand a woman’s heart. think about it.

i have two grown children now and am prouder than hell of them. smart, happy, productive members of society–my one daughter is a woman’s rights activist and my other daughter is a public defender. but understand this: i have NEVER regretted that decision made so many years ago.

by the by, if i burn in hell, it’s more than likely most of you idiots will too. only God is in any position to judge me, thank you very much, and i’ll accept ANYTHING he doles out, but NOTHING that you do.

I wonder if someone could get the ultra sound and show it on National TV about once a week. Maybe show it in the schools.

Khyron November 2nd, 2009 – 3:08 pm
Comments like the majority on here crack me up. Most of you posting would be first to say “Darn liberals and their wealth distribution! Why don’t they just give away all their money”…let me clue you hypocrits in on something. Don’t complain about OTHER people getting an abortion that does not effect YOU, unless you can look in the mirror and say I have done everything possible to make sure there are no children in orphanages. If everyone who is SO concerned about abortions, adopt children then I’m sure adoption would look like a better option. Otherwise, I agree with “jspicer”, do something proactive, don’t tell someone else what they should do.

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Hey, dumb@ss – here’s a NOVEL idea: How about all those women/men either keep their pants on or either take contraceptives if they don’t want a baby. Apparently you believe it’s o.k. to ‘play’, to have your ‘fun’ but not ‘pay’ or be ‘RESPONSIBLE’ for your ‘fun’. Oh no, the easiest thing to do is to KILL it, to get rid of ‘the thing’ YOU created! Yeah, try to blame abortions on those who abhor it – don’t blame the person who is doing the actual KILLING who are so obsessed with having a ‘good’ time that NOTHING (even killing an unborn baby) matters to them! MORON!!!

All you pro-lifers make me sick. Stop trying to impose your religious beliefs on others. If you are against abortions don’t have one, but don’t try to tell me what to do with MY body. I wonder if you would feel the same way if your 13 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant.

BillyBaloo,

Or you can educate kids on how to prevent pregnancies. That would be more effective.

bip48,

Many conservatives also believe in Capital Punishment. So, how is that different?

And gay marriage? What does that have to do with abortions? At least we know gay couples are not having abortions. You should be more in favor of gay marriage as a Christian.

As a Catholic, I pray for people like you. The bible teaches us to love everyone no matter who they are.

And if you really want to take the bible literally, the bible also says that women can’t have sex before marriage. I wonder how many Christian women are doing that ABOMINABLE act.

Get a life.

Anecdotal evidence. Arguments based under penumbras of the Bible. Vitriol without logic. The framing of the phrase ‘pro-abortion’ instead of ‘pro-choice.’ I don’t think many of you understand that this isn’t a black or white matter. Nobody who is pro-choice is actively supporting abortions. It is the RIGHT to an abortion, which we believe is covered under the American Constitution. In the case Roe v Wade, the concept of the penumbras of the American Constitution was first introduced after decades of strict reading. It is because of this case that many of the legislation afterwards was passed.

Again, nobody WANTS an abortion.

There could be so many other arguments regarding ‘the point of viability’ or ‘potentiality of life’. Whether you think teen pregnancy is morally better or is a check to keep a low income class within the United States, or that abortion is a racist institution to keep african americans in check. This endless postulating in terms of morality and benefit will go nowhere.

where’s the vid?

planned parenthoof doesnt show what goes on inside because what are performing is what is called a surgical procedure and if the patient or doctors choose not to be filmed it is there right. and the reason the information about the staff cnnot be divulged to the public is because there are some religious extremist out there looking for this information to target the people that work there. And if you say they are doing the work of god, that is what the muslim extremists tell themselves eveyr day. Would you woant to be compared to a terrorist? And heres my opnion abortion is a womens right i believe she chooses whether to undergo 9 months of pain or not.

If God didn’t want people to have abortions he’d make it rain for 40 days and 40 nights and flood all the abortion clinics. Think about it. It’s sunny out. Now go away and hide in your pretty little churches.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH HATE IN WORDS THAN WHAT I HAVE READ HERE..MOST OF YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE BUT THINKS THEY ARE THE SMARTEST AND THE MOST GODLY..WHAT PITIFUL HUMAN BEINGS YOU PEOPLE ARE…

To all you non-religous, non-believers: Do what you want to do – God gave us all free will. For us Christians or those who believe in a greater power, we believe there will be a price for ALL OF US to pay for our sins at the end of our days (unless we repent). The choice is yours – to believe or not. I, for one, try not to ‘judge’; I just don’t understand how a person could kill a living, innocent unborn baby or WILLINGLY go against God’s Commandments, it just makes me sad; but again, you must be a ‘believer’ to understand where I’m coming from. Yeah, go ahead – call me names.

//I am sorry to tell you that week 12 in not “that” early on. Have you seen an ultrasound in the week number 10 with a baby with legs and arms? in the week number 6, with a heart beating?
I do not blame you if you do not know this, because this is the reason why so many people think that abortion is not a “biggy”. You dare to compare it with liposuccion- fat vs a human life….how sad is your thinking…..Did you ask your mother if she felt you as fat when she was pregnant with you??//

Lol. What makes you assume that I don’t understand the anatomy and physiology of a zygote, embryo or fetus? I assure you that I most likely know more than 99% of the pro-lifers posting here.

Oh….and in cast you didn’t know….//…// means I am quoting someone. I didn’t compare anything to liposuction. The person I quoted did.

My mom is and was pro-choice. She has an abortion 2 years before she had me. Personally, I’m glad I was a wanted kid and that my mom CHOOSE to have me vs being forced to have me.

For those of us applaud this women, we should stand in support of her any way we can. She will come under attack in ways most of us will never know.

She is not the first to come out of this industry and speak the truth about how many of these women are blatantly lied to, so they will go through with the “procedure”.

To those who say she is lying….In an earlier post, “Jim” stated it well;
The zeal you have in defending abortion is more about protecting your own minds from the reality of what you have supported, or participated in.

This person is an example to anyone who need to turn around. Its never to late.

Since when were atheists more intelligent than religious people. You might want to look around you and at the history of Western cvilization, “geniusofthecrowd.” You’ll see far more intelligence on the religious side. Make a list of the greatest atheists…

To paraphrase John Galt: “There are only two sides to every issue, right and wrong. Compromise only favors evil. The liberals have chosen the wrong side. They have brought the murder of over 55 million infants since Roe vs Wade (R Vs. W — Right vs. Wrong???). They will be the party to bring euthanasia on the other end of life. They will have you coming and going.

Here is a YouTube mirror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwLAcCuJNtk

I have to laugh at all the commenters who “praise God”…one person’s comment was simply “God is good”–that’s what terrorists say aftr they blow up people. Of course abortion is murder and morally wrong. But let’s stop spreading this childish nonsense about the magical man in the sky who doesn’t exist except in the minds of dummies.

I just wanted to say even with the anonymity here I am grateful to ab for sharing her experience, it would never be easy recounting something like that.

In the old day’s there was a guy nifty with a coat hanger, if you were catholic or heathen. Today there is process, guidance, responsibility, and support (mind you not enough in my opinion).

We do not have everything figured out, and the belief and obedience to a religion does not give people the right to pass judgment on a woman living her own circumstances.

I do not totally discount all of the values of your “bible” but I do believe that much of its principals were merely a natural progression of humanity (and a collection of several of the ancient gods, ie: Horus). I can not say religion has it’s own place in society. It has sustained the ignorant and poor where the world has failed them.

I do however believe that there is a time coming where people put away such childish things. Where the simple fact that we are all people floating around on a rock in a space greater than anyone can possibly imagine is enough to bind us together, without the need for some distant infinitely powerful being passing judgment on us when we die.

But I digress….

This should not be decided by science or religion, but by the woman who has to make the decision. The rest of us, need to mind our own business.

Breitbart, will you please post a link to the ultrasound video? This is an important story, but it will have a much longer-lasting effect if a girl in trouble can see the video herself while making such a lives-changing decision.

Life does not start at conception…’Life’ pre-existed. What begins at conception is ‘living’. Developing in the womb, is a ‘living’, ‘human’, ‘entity’…Obviously alive, obviously human, and obviously an entity (in existence). A ‘living human in existence’ is a ‘being’, a ‘human being’.
From conception to grave, everyone is a ‘living human entity’, that does not change. From embryo to old person, through all the stages of our development, we are all ‘living human entities’.
If it is wrong to kill/murder a living human in any one of it’s stages of development, then it is equally wrong to kill a ‘living’ human entity in ANY of it’s stages, including pre-birth…

“I just thought I can’t do this anymore, and it was just like a flash that hit me and I thought that’s it.”
Well, good for you a-hole. You shouldn’t have been doing it in the first place. F.U.

Good for her, but she has to take EXTREMELY seriously the confidential information she was made privy to while at the “murder clinic.” She can remain clean, and remain honest by not sharing names or other medical information about patients.

I hope her new found integrity remains intact even though others may want to hear details about the last eight years of her former career.

genius?ofthecrowd, there is not one kid in this nation that does not know about birth control and how to obtain it, unless that kid is incarcerated in a Mormon compound or such as that. PP is not ‘cleaning up’ any mess, it is making one. What schools in the south are being run by churches? I want to know because I don’t believe it is legal. You need to get your mind together and stop lying. As far as the Director who resigned is concerned, what did she think was going on when she took the job? I don’t much believe in these pseudo-conversions, but maybe her conscience began bothering her.

Mr. Eddie’s Father,
How does one say “Of course abortion is murder and morally wrong” and then finish up with “let’s stop spreading this childish nonsense about the magical man in the sky who doesn’t exist”?

If there is no god, there is no true morality. You can’t appeal to morality without appealing to a moral authority.

This being said, I agree with you that abortion is murder and morally wrong.

Clif

That womans life will be forever changed! God is good.

Blessed Are Those Who Do Not See The Video Yet Believe That Abortion Is An Abomination.

WELCOME HOME, ABBEY!!! (Luke 15:11-32)

Silentscream.org

According to the christians own story….god himself murdered his own son……good enough for god….good enough for everyone else.

Google “No Bull Mom” for related info.

Very well said Disgusted. Very well said!

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“I just wanted to say even with the anonymity here I am grateful to ab for sharing her experience, it would never be easy recounting something like that.

In the old day’s there was a guy nifty with a coat hanger, if you were catholic or heathen. Today there is process, guidance, responsibility, and support (mind you not enough in my opinion).

We do not have everything figured out, and the belief and obedience to a religion does not give people the right to pass judgment on a woman living her own circumstances.

I do not totally discount all of the values of your “bible” but I do believe that much of its principals were merely a natural progression of humanity (and a collection of several of the ancient gods, ie: Horus). I can not say religion has it’s own place in society. It has sustained the ignorant and poor where the world has failed them.

I do however believe that there is a time coming where people put away such childish things. Where the simple fact that we are all people floating around on a rock in a space greater than anyone can possibly imagine is enough to bind us together, without the need for some distant infinitely powerful being passing judgment on us when we die.

But I digress….

This should not be decided by science or religion, but by the woman who has to make the decision. The rest of us, need to mind our own business.”

With 40 million plus babies murdered and counting since abortion was legalized, who gives a rat’s rear end about “40 million uninsured”? We have committed, with the help of liberal fascists and their minions at Planned Parenthood, complete genocide of a generation. No wonder God has turned His back on America and condemned our country to hell. Every supporter of abortion should have to view the brutal murder of an unborn infant to witness the sheer horror of the procedure. May God forgive us.

If Planned Parenthood showed all pegnant mothers a sonogram of an abortion , there would be a lot less abortions. People need to be educated.

Of course she had a change of heart she got all religious and abortion doesn’t exactly jive with her faith. I would say that’s a pragmatic choice and she did not do it because it ate away at her conscience. Hopefully she didn’t have to drop in pay at her new job.

Praise God for giving the news station and this website the courage to cover this great story. Not too many would do it. I hope this story and the responses from everyone encourages others that may be working for this institution, and who has been feeling a strong tug at their hearts to take a personal stand and get out of this terrible environment. For those that feel abortion is not a big deal, where would you be today if your Mom and Dad had chosen this option? Thank God they didn’t.

Stephen Burke,

How has God turned his back? Don’t you think as another poster stated, he would have punished those who had an abortion?

How about the rapists? Why didn’t God prevent the rapes of these women who had an abortion? It would have been a preemptive strike. Prevent the rape from happening, and there’d be less abortions. Where was God then?

I worked in the office of an OB-Gyn for 9 years. She would not perform an abortion and did not force me to give abortion information to patient’s asking for one. It was the only way I could work in the office. I would not be a party to murdering an unborn child. We had one patient who had had 9 abortions and was using them as a form of birth control

On several occasions we had women in for weekly check-ups and when I checked for a heartbeat there was none. We sat with these women while they called their husbands, or I did it, and we held them close as they sobbed for their lost child.

I did the fetal monitoring on all of the unborn CHILDREN and when you hear it or see it on ultrasound there is no doubt that a living, breathing human being is living inside the mother.

The decision on abortion should be made when a woman decides to have sex. Use some common sense and stop to think of the ramifications of having unprotected sex. Besides disease it could result in a pregnancy. If you use birth control there would be no need for an abortion because you thought with your head instead of with your hormones.

Of course the liberals are going to blame this woman’s change of heart on religion and her conversion to Christianity. Since you don’t believe in God, don’t believe the Bible is the true Word of God, you are going to do the easiest thing and attack her religion. So childish. Find something else to pick on since your case is so so weak.

Two and a half years ago my son and daughter-in-law handed us pictures of the ultrasound of our now 14 month old grandson. It was taken at 11 weeks and I could see his arms, legs and heart. He grew in her body for over 9 months and has been a joy since he entered the world. My daughter-in-law loved this baby from the moment she knew she was pregnant.

In this messed up, selfish country which we find ourselves living in, maybe people need to examine themselves and stop judging others.

In spite of all of the evil in this world, and especially in this country, I still can say that God is good, all the time. We pray for these abortionist and our hope is that they too will see the light.

Praise God, ironically science will be the downfall of this sick murder of the innocent….One seed can turn a yield of 1000, Miss Johnson can be a huge blessing!!!!

I highly doubt you listened as you were raised Baptist otherwise your views would not be so distorted. If you read the Bible, and honestly seek God’s wisdom then you would be convicted of your incorrect views. I am not trying to shove my beliefs onto anyone however I will always tell people I meet of the saving grace of God through Jesus Christ because I do not want to see anyone perish.

As to the point of this video above, it breaks my heart to pieces to see people rip out God’s creation of a little child from the womb. How sickening this is and how must God feel? I can’t imagine.

I too believe in the separation of church and state but I also believe in the separation of aetheism and state. Why have we allowed the minority in this country, that minority being those who do not believe in God, to rule our school systems? Don’t believe me just open a child’s history book or better yet their science book. My 13 year old came home the other day with a study paper all about Charles Darwin and how is science has “proved” where humans came from. PROVED? The Bible used to be standard teaching in school now you can scarecely say the word. So why is evolution taught in schools as truth and why can God not be taught in the schools as well? The separation of aetheism and state should be done as well.

Needless to say my wife and I pulled out children out of the public schools and placed them in the Christian school just down the road.

Agreed, this should not be decided by religion, liberals or conservative. It is the woman’s choice. I am not a religious person by any means but, if my memory serves me right there was some one in the bible who sacrificed their son to god. If if makes you god fearing people feel any better why dont you just look at it as a sacrifice?

The pro life argument is another example of how selfish Christians actually are. You claim to represent love, compassion, and understanding, but you are always trying to change people to follow your beliefs. The first comment mentions liberals as a cult, but maybe they should take a look in the mirror.

In America not everyone is Christian, and dont give me this crap about how it was founded on Christian principles, it wasnt! It was founded on the principle that we are all free, can believe whatever we want and will not be persecuted for it. “One nation under god” was not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954 in a ploy to convince people that Christianity was American and anything else was communist. Since everyone is not Christian people should be allowed to make their own choices and suffer their own consequences. Whether that is going to an imaginary afterlife in Heaven/Hell or having to deal with the mental anguish of a poor choice/action. If your faith is so strong let it tell YOU what to do, not everyone else.

What is Planned Parenthood so afraid of? If abortion is nothing to be ashamed about, and is simply about “women’s health,” they would have nothing to hide. Nobody cares about….pap smears and mammograms and colposcopies. That’s because these don’t kill. Obviously PP knows that once the public knows what they really do, the tide will turn in a HUGE way.

They’re clamoring would be funny, if it weren’t so tragic and sad.

For clarification: Margaret Sanger WAS a racist, and a Nazi sympathizer. However, she also DID NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION: She said it was “barbaric.” Planned Parenthood loves to revise history to suit its needs to kill. They’re really all about money and lies.

It’s all about money and greed.

Christians need money to keep their churches growing, and that’s why they want to impose their beliefs on everyone.

Think about it…the more people in their congregation, the more money they can beg for to keep their churches afloat and to put even more money into the pockets of their pedophiliac leaders.

Sorry, but I worship in my own way and I keep my beliefs to myself. I believe in free will and being in charge of our own bodies, not someone else.

@ Planned Parenthood is a eugenist organization ~ If PP simply showed ultrasounds of the fetus, there would be a lot less abortions (but where’s the money in that?!). You’re right, these young mothers need Love and Truth. For this reason, many pregnancy centers are offering ultrasounds or local doctors are offering them for free.
http://revelationrainbow.com/Pro_Choice.asp

Sharon,

“In this messed up, selfish country which we find ourselves living in, maybe people need to examine themselves and stop judging others.”

EXACTLY! People need to stop judging others for making a decision. Deciding whether to have an abortion is up to each woman, not the rest of society. At least you understand that.

Liberals are all about wanting to show the caskets of fallen soldiers, any and all ghastly video of the war on terror on TV news each night (at least when Bush was President). I say videos such as the one this person saw should be abundantly broadcast. Pro-life groups should be able to buy a number of 15-30 minute TV slots during the Democrat National Convention and play these videos before and after major speeches.

Killing a baby, think about it, how can we ever justify this Is this progress for humans? We have to take responsibility for our actions, give it up to so many people who do want children. Government should not encourage killing nor fund it!

Why does every discussion about (anti-)abortion turn into a religious/political tirade? And more importantly, how does being pro-choice automatically turn you into someone who just gets a kick out of killing babies? They are two totally different things and I assure you, most pro-choice advocates are in fact NOT evil. We are sons, daughters, fathers and mothers, exactly like anti-abortion advocates. We too value life and all it’s possibilities but the main difference, in my opinion at least, is that we don’t believe anyone should be allowed to tell a woman what to do with her body or how to make that decision. Being pro-choice means being for giving the mother the choice! No one enjoys the idea of a baby being aborted but what give me or you or the government to make that decision for someone else?

And looking at the political side, I find it ironic that for the most part conservatives, who normally support and fight for individual responsibility/power/freedom, support the making of a law that takes that decision away from the individual and gives it to the government. Of course, it is a little ironic for liberals to support the opposite, granting the individual the right to decide for themselves. But because they are doing it through their normal means (creating laws) it is not as ironic as it is for conservatives.

Despite all this, if PP are truly pushing for abortions to the point of coercing, lying or withholding information from their patients then this is definitely a problem. Again, pro-choice advocates are for giving options, not taking them away. If PP is not doing its job in educating and helping their patients, they are doing the same as anti-abortion advocates and taking away the right of making that decision from the individual.

to the one who said we cannot illegalise abortion because people will perform them anyway and horrible things will happen…. I guess we need to legalise crack too so people will quit murdering people in cold blood for a fix …. Hey while we are at it we can just give out free crack too ! Let’s just get rid of laws altogether this is a free country ! That is rediculous…. God help us all….

I’ve lost another eugenocide warrior. Pitty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

Mary,
Have you ever been to a PP clinic? Have you ever talked to one of their councilors or doctors? If not…SHUT THE F UP! You don’t know what you are talking about. PP is not just about abortions in spite of what you say or think (do you?).

I’m really stunned by the “Liberals” this and “Liberals” that statements on these posts. You can believe what you want, that is your American right. But it’s not your right to push that belief on someone else.

The lawsuit is because this women knows the names of several people and those are to be kept confidential. She is being sued to make sure she doesn’t just hand over a list to her new friends.

I wish you all luck in your belief that no one should have an abortion, however remember it’s your belief, not your right.

I really can’t believe you’d sit there and say and wonder why Liberals don’t want war yet are ok with abortion. I don’t want to see life brought into a world where you may get whisked off at 18 to go fight and die. Being sanctimonious about life is easy when you don’t give a s*** what quality of life that person will be brought into.

May you all help bring as many people into the world as possible, but for God’s sake if you are going to be anti-abortion, bring some quality to those people’s lives.

If we let the government tell us we “have” to have our babies….then by extension…the government can tell us we “can’t” have our babies.

Make up your own mind and leave pretend entities and books with out any historical proof out of it.

“Wow, the only time capitalism is beyond evil…when your business is murder for hire” (Kris, Nov. 2, 2009) Whoa! Kris, I was with you up until that last statement. Planned Parenthood is NOT capitalism. I blame our schools for not teaching our young people the difference. Planned Parenthood is a NON-PROFIT–the exact opposite of capitalism. They are dependent on our tax dollars to fund their business. Yes, you and I pay for these innocent deaths!!

This is absolutely not news. One woman suddenly changing her job is not news, regardless of your personal opinion. If she was working at KFC and saw a PETA video about animal cruelty and quit would she get any sort of press? If she was working in the Pentagon and decided that killing babies was wrong and she quit would she get any press? No. Peddling bias is reprehensible regardless of whether you agree with the bias or not. Also, it’s misleading to title this “Planned Parenthood Leader Resigns…” because she was a director of a local branch. While I suppose technically she is a leader, I would have never found my way to this video if I wasn’t lead to believe she was actually part of the national hierarchy, and I would still be blissfully ignorant of the pathetically feeble attempt at brainwashing that this is. Maybe I’d go fly a kite.

Abortion kills living humans.

What people do with their own body’s should be their business. Stop worrying about other people and their choices.

Bunch of church going hypocrites…

Planned Parenthood has an agenda just like you do. They want to provide the FREEDOM of CHOICE.

You want to restrict those freedoms.

Why is it murder when you kill an infant, but you can get away with killing an unborn baby? That makes no sense, but obviously the stupid Liberals are blind to this. If you have sex and get pregnant, thats YOUR mistake, not the innocent baby’s!! If you cant afford it, give it up for adoption! DUH! There are millions of couples looking to adopt, that way, your baby can live, and you dont have to be a murderer.

If nobody wants an abortion, then why’d you do it? You’re allowed to do what you want. People who get abortions are mindless and selfish, and they only care about themselves.

KILLING BABIES IS WRONG…there’s no other way to look at it.

Abortion is murder.

The amount of posts here is great. I want to answer a couple of things though.

Leon saying America was not founded on Christian principles is wrong. Check your facts. The Mayflower was a ship bringing a Christian sect from Europe. In the case of it being founded on everyone being equal again refer to history textbooks – Christianity started this mantra with everyone being equal; whores and all!!! this is a reality and historical fact. Facts are stubborn things – you can’t argue with them. It is also the only other religion at the moment which respects others. You have very little rights in Israel as a non-Jew just as Christians have little rights in a lot of Islamic states also. leon there was no sacrifice either. Some guy was tested by God who stopped him in the end. Read man its good for the brain

GOP Gay Old Party – I would remain very quiet if i were you. Most gay people are square the nature not nurture line. Meaning that people are born gay. This means that it is something in their genes, something they are born with it. Should a gay gene be therefore identified how many people will then get abortions rather than have a gay son or daughter. Your minority group will be one of the biggest losers of all. Careful now.

Goon Skud – your post was disgusting – God sent the mexicans to punish you? get a grip man.

Disgusted and AB- i am wondering whether you are the same person? your shields you from what you have left out. That you will never regret what you did being so proud of your living functioning members of society – did you never think that your baby could have helped you? What if your daughters were not functioning? would you not be proud of them?

Jim – dont single out Christians for your hate. Bad experiences eh? Every major religion in the world pushes itself on to a native population. At least Chrsitanity let most keep customs and language. Islam spread uniformity of language (arabic) and culture. Non-jews are being forced out of the old city of Jerusalam.

You also commented on the republican/conservatives having brought on the economic crisis – true to a point, but it was Clinton who hammered through the loans the 100 percent mortgages and other loans to help poor people (who defaulted) buy their homes.

Abortion is not a right/left or religious issue. I am far right on somethings and far left on others. I agree with healthcare for all. It is disgusting that you will abandon people when they need help. AB your your baby needed help and you should have been given anything you needed to get through a time when you felt abandoned.
Abortion is a human rights issue. And if we subscribe to this ideal than we have to do so to all of them including the right to life it being the first one. perfection is achieved rarely perhaps only in the conception of another human being something full of possiblities do we see it at all.

The sad thing is that this has nothing to do with religion. I am not a religious person but I find the notion of abortion as about as repugnant as you can find. I am not talking about rape victims, or incest or the other %5 of abortion reasons. I am talking about the other %95 of abortions that are done out of casual birth control. Look at the numbers, abortion in this country is just casual birth control. It would be prudent for people to look up Margaret Sanger and the topic of “Eugenics” to see the foundation of Planned Parenthood. Anyways, aside from the point what species kills it’s children so casually? How natural is that? How is that really a choice? To all you pro choice liberals out there answer me two questions;

1.) If a pregnant woman is mugged and killed in the street, the man who is convicted with the crime of double murder? Why? Does the life of a child only have value if the mother decides to place value on it?

2.) If a woman’s baby is entirely her choice, I guess that should free me or any man from any financial or emotional burden associated with said child. If I have nothing to do with the choice, then why should I have to face responsibility at the will of the woman? You can’t have it both ways.

In my opinion the choice is made in the bedroom, not the abortion clinic.

Abortion is a death penalty for someone who has not committed a crime. It should not be legal.

Killing is a valued tradition in human society and should be continued and endorsed as much as possible. Young, Old, Sick, Healthy, it makes no difference. What if the baby that was aborted ended up being the next Stalin or Hitler? Would you go back and kill it if you could? A lot of you claim to be pro-life but you don’t take responsibility for life! I don’t see you going out adopting abused kids or babies with sever disabilities or helping the sick or standing up for those in need. Or maybe you just give money to make yourself feel good that someone is taking care of the problem. Out of sight out of mind right. Yeah I thought so!
It’s just entertainment for you. you like being outraged and chipping in on the moral high ground, but in the end you’re just lazy cowards. If you want to be pro-life, FINE! but then why don’t you adopt and take care of all the babies that are unwanted? oh? not your problem because they’re not your kids? Well guess what! it is your problem! And killing to stop killing? What’s that about? If you kill a doctor who preforms abortions, you might as well green light the abortions and save everyone a lot of time and trouble. What about the millions of people living below the poverty line both here and in other countries?
Oh and by the way, I hope you’re vegan, because otherwise your a Hypocrite. Think of all the animals that are born just to die to feed the world. The millions of millions of chickens, cows, pigs, etc that are abused and SLAUGHTERED to provide you with your daily meal. Do you think they have a nice natural life? Ever been to a slaughterhouse? Do you like fur? Do you wear leather? Eat Jello? How about that makeup?
Oh? but the bible says it’s ok? well then… That makes it all ok. Because it’s ok to kill and torture anyone who doesn’t believe what you do. Even if it’s slightly different or if other people are slightly different. Yes tomorrow we’ll kill everyone with fluffy eyebrows because the bible says it’s ok. It’s so convenient to quote just one phrase or cite something out of context and use it to destroy.
But if you truly believe your teachings whatever they might be (and they have a lot in common no matter what you believe) then THINK before you spout your venom. Take 5 minutes and consider the implications of what you believe, want to say, or are about to do!

Thank you for sharing the brave story. This is very encouraging for those of us in the trenches standing for life.

You are just as wrong as they are when you make broad generalizations against all Democrats and Liberals and say they are going straight to hell. Just as they place their lives in greater importance than their unborn child’s, you place yours as greater than theirs. We are all imperfect and in need of the same grace and you do more harm than good when you shout your accusations out like you are so much better than everyone else. Love them in their confusion and love them in their pain. It works better than condemnation. Speak truth with grace, not hate.

Karla .. I visited and lived in third world countries for over 30 years, yes I am
very acquainted with what you are talking about .. however, how the baby got there
is quite irrelevant .. it is still a baby that should be given the same choice,
should they be given the choice of life, as you & I are privileged to have.

Plant a flower, a tree .. go back in a month or so and see what you’ll find?

I honestly have to question all you women out there who “THINK” you really are
“pro-abortion” beleivers .. are you really? Have you ever had a child? Have you ever
tended children? Do you have a baby sister/brother .. etc. Maybe not .. still you
have a responsibility in that choice you so fight for. How about when you are
all alone, not one is around, just you and your personal thoughts .. who are you
really in your own personal space .. away from the screaming noises of those who
seem to challenge your personal heartfelt convictions? Is it possible that you have
allowed the many to stomp on your beliefs and call it “your choice”?

Truly search your heart and see just what might happen. Just think .. what if your
mom had aborted you.

Most important is that we all are created by Someone, a very Powerful Someone, a
Holy & Righteous Someone, Whose name is God .. whether people believe this or not
is really not the issue .. it still is and one day we will all stand before this
awesome, powerful & holy God, give an account for our lives. At that time there
will be no Obama, no courts, no PP, no friends who will stand with you, for they
too will all be cowered, bent over on their knees crying out for God’s mercy,
and, grace. Where will you stand?

Dear ones, don’t give in to the pressure, stand for what you really believe in your
own hearts ONLY after understanding the whole picture our God has painted in His
Holy Word. Trusting man made laws, from self made law makers, who will one day
reveal the very depravity of their own creator, is pure foolishness.

God bless you all in your decision process .. you will have to one day stand close
behind that choice and deal with consequences .. which will not be too pretty!
and take personal inventory of your heartfelt convictions .. as did this woman
who dared to be

Most of the people that have commented are being ridiculous, someone actually commented that abortions are killing more people than the holocaust. The problem is that this argument is faith-based for most people and not science based and therefore factually and fundamentally flawed from the get go. I am sorry there is so much hostility towards Planned Parenthood, but for the people that actually have working brains, you know that Planned Parenthood has helped a lot more than it has hurt. Do your research people before you open your big stupid god fearing mouths.

I’ve had 3 abortions already, and would have another in a heartbeat. This article is just conservative propaganda.

She knows that she’s going to burn in Hell, now she’s running scared.

If only people who were against abortion had a little more science to back them up.

If you look at any of the objectively done studies on children in the womb, they are not conscious for the majority of the time. Some studies even show that they are not conscious until the moment of birth and a powerful kick of DMT and other chemicals spark the brain into regular function.

The reason these children are not given a “choice” is because they have no capability of choosing and wouldn’t care either way. It is the mother who chooses for she is the one who is most affected by the birth of the child. If a mother does not feel like she can provide a child with a decent life, did not want the child (rape or broken condom), or will die giving birth to the child, then she is absolutely more valuable in the equation than the child.

Look at all the numbers of children who are born unwanted by their parents. They are not all adopted, the orphanages are awful, and many who are adopted still grow up with severe psychological distress.

If you want a child, you should adopt one from a developing nation where the birth rate is much higher and they cannot support their children. If we had let these “40 million” children to have been born, how exactly would we have paid for their food and living? You would have nearly 40 million starving, suffering, and often un-loved children. A ruined generation living in misery instead of a “lost” generation that didn’t know they existed in the first place.

However I don’t believe in a soul because I come from a scientific background and upbringing, so I’m not worried about that. The brain is who you are, if your brain isn’t as developed as another, then it is worth less. I would much rather kill a child to save an adult or teenager, because that adult or teenager is much more likely to provide and give back to society than some random baby (depending on the adult or teen of course), and they go through a lot more suffering by being killed (emotional loss) than an oblivious baby does.

Please, use rationality, not just blind faith. YOU AREN’T GOING TO CONVINCE ANYONE WITH BIBLE QUOTES AND HELLFIRE, ESPECIALLY NOT POLITICIANS.

jean… that is your decision and right to have a child. It is also mine. And your next door neighbor and your friend. In other words, their CHOICE.

Live your life without sin and you’ll be fine, but don’t impose your beliefs on anyone else.

http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/shocking-images-show-%E2%80%9Cbaby-soup%E2%80%9D-in-china/

Ha ha, liberals are a bunch of baby killing sinners, amiright? Praise be to Jesus for using his Divine powers to help this woman see the light and stop the blatant massacre of fresh babies. It’s totally awesome now that if this woman gets impregnated through rape that she’ll feel compelled to keep that bastard child and raise it right in a world gone wrong (thanks to democrats)!

Also, we should totally drill for oil in Alaska, and keep the troops over there in Afghanistan because our work isn’t done! Those America haters need a face full of apple pie and M-16s to get their heads on straight.

And anybody who wants to burn a flag should probably wrap themselves in it first, much like I wrap myself in soft white linens right before I chase minorities out of my God fearing town.

Those who are pro-choice can only comment because they are alive. They were lucky enough not to fall victim to abortion. I guess in our society we are lucky if we live.

“If you look at any of the objectively done studies on children in the womb, they are not conscious for the majority of the time.”

Then why did my son kick every time I talked to him in the womb?

“If a mother…did not want the child (rape or broken condom)…”.

How can you possibly equate those two?

“If we had let these “40 million” children to have been born, how exactly would we have paid for their food and living?”

So by this locit you are proposing that we should just murder the “50 million uninsured” in this country?

“The brain is who you are, if your brain isn’t as developed as another, then it is worth less. I would much rather kill a child to save an adult or teenager, because that adult or teenager is much more likely to provide and give back to society than some random baby (depending on the adult or teen of course), and they go through a lot more suffering by being killed (emotional loss) than an oblivious baby does.”

Wow, just wow.

“Please, use rationality, not just blind faith. YOU AREN’T GOING TO CONVINCE ANYONE WITH BIBLE QUOTES AND HELLFIRE, ESPECIALLY NOT POLITICIANS.”

You just convinced me to get into this fight for the first time. And not for religious/bible reasons. Even without those, abortion in murder. Anyone who has seen their child on an untrasound will agree.

Clarification is needed: in the interview, Johnson never claims her conversion was due to “watching ultrasound of abortion procedure.” Where is your source for that claim? Nevertheless, thanks be to God for her conversion!!! Thanks for the prayers for abortion workers.

The problem with the Pro Life movement today is that it is too often tied to the baggage of religion. If you tell an atheist that abortion is against God, they will tune you out automatically. Of course it is, but it is also a violation of the unborn baby’s civil rights. (that’s how you talk to a liberal) If you want to PERSUADE liberals, you can’t simply attack them and shout stupid slogans. You have to argue in a manner that prevents them from making excuses. Liberals believe that their cause is centered around society protecting the weak from all harm, including harming themselves with their own stupid actions. If you frame an unborn child as a weaker being that is being denied the right to live by a person in a position of power, you keep the argument tied to logic, science, and humanism.
I have met many Pro Abortion Republicans(far too many, sadly, including a staffer for Rep. Steve King of Iowa) and many Pro Life Democrats (not enough yet) so try to keep politics out of it. This is about the rights of the child to live, no matter how reckless their parents were in conceiving them.

The reference to the ultrasound as the trigger for Johnson’s conversion is in print in the first paragraph here: http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/68441827.html .

Annie, I grew up in a small town in Texas with a school system ran by the baptist churches. Not once was sex education brought up and abstinence was taught by the school as the only viable alternative. This is the same school system that banned a number of books like To Kill a Mockingbird because it conflicted with the values of the community, AKA the church. I remember being 9 or 10 and actually protesting abortions on the side of a highway with a church and not even knowing really what I was protesting in the first place except that the church disagreed with it. More intelligence on the religious side? I don’t equate intelligence with censorship and repression. The protective blanket of a church community doesn’t prepare kids for the real world outside. I also don’t understand why hardcore Christians complain about Sex Education and Birth Control being taught in schools and then are crying bloody murder when a girl gets knocked up and doesn’t want the child. If you want less abortions, then there should be more access to birth control and the morning after pill. Planned Parenthood is one of the few places that makes it affordable outside of insurance.

BillC, I am not an Atheist, I am just someone who doesn’t believe in extreme religious fanaticism and people who yell out ancient scripture as viable solutions for a society that has changed over 3000 years or so.

Truetoo suggests that Disgusted and ab are one in the same person. we are not. by the way, disgusted, thank you.

I would suggest to Truetoo that he/she go back and re-read my personal story. I do not believe he/she has spent much time trying to understand the human condition–in slang, walking a mile in someone else’s shoes. i apologize as well, as my writing can also be a little too nuanced and confusing. Secondly, as far as being proud of my daughters, the underlying point being made is that i WAS able to turn my life around after personal tragedy and a difficult decision and SUCCESSFULLY raise two children. the kudos were for myself, even if bragging. if they dug ditches for a living, i would be proud of them. whatever makes them happy makes me happy. Next: i did not believe then, nor do i now, that bringing the fetus to term would have helped me. rape survivors often experience derangement of personality/emotions, and i was absolutely in no condition to nurture. everyone in my life at that time who was aware of my situation would attest to that fact. Perhaps you should Google the personal stories of the Rwandan women who were raped, forced to carry their fetuses to term, and their feelings/lack thereof toward these poor children. Lastly, please proofread your entries. your misuse of grammar/syntax makes your points very difficult to understand.

Just Think About It … i would like to know where you get your percentages from. i’ve known scores of women in my lifetime, and 100% of the VERY FEW women i’ve known who decided to have an abortion DID NOT do so casually. to suggest otherwise can be very insulting to women’s intelligence. i would suggest that those random percentages are backward, and that it is the MAJORITY of women who have an abortion do so after great deliberation and agonizing soul searching, and it is the MINORITY of women who do so as a method of birth control. i myself have never personally met anyone in the minority.

i have carefully selected the venues used to tell my story and do my best to be clear and concise. i am not a whiner, never have been, but i believe that anyone who blandly suggests that an impregnated rape victim simply “needs help” or “support” vs. making the difficult and personal decision not to carry to term is missing the bigger picture. help and support are for granted, and i had plenty of both, but abortion is not a granted and never should be. i’m lucky enough to have had a relatively unscarred life since those days, but i thoroughly believe i would not be alive today if i did not have the freedom to choose a course of action (abortion) that was only mine to make.

COMMON KILLING CONTRADICTS COMMON LAW, COMMON SENSE AND HUMAN DECENCY
Posted: Tuesday June 2, 2009 at 3:06 pm EST by Judie Brown.

Judie is President of American Life League and states the truth well.

Some have failed to understand what they are posting, claiming science fails to identify when life begins in the womb.

Science has verified that new DNA is formed at conception. New Life! A Baby! A stage in the life of a human being!

Many post,”shut up Christians”…First and foremost they are required to share the good news of Christ Jesus…and good news it is indeed.

Salvation is available, now, through faith and belief in Jesus Christ, NOT MAN.

In present day America, thanks to our Bill of Rights, we still have the right of Freedom of Speech. So let all do so with courtesy and respect.

In response to Thirstyprofesser’s comments. “Most of the people that have commented are being ridiculous, someone actually commented that abortions are killing more people than the holocaust. The problem is that this argument is faith-based for most people and not science based and therefore factually and fundamentally flawed from the get go.”

How are these people being “ridiculous?” Indeed, their arguments are “science based” and not “faith-based.” Any highschool biology textbook will tell you that life begins at conception when sperm and egg unite to form a new human being. About 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. There are over 1.2 million reported phisical abortions each year in the U.S.A meaning that more than one third of unborn children are killed. In the last 36 years well over 50 million babies have been killed in reported phisical abortions in the U.S.A. These numbers are widely accepted figures so for some one to compare the slaughter of innocent babies to the slaughter of innocent Jews would be quite reasonable.

Modern research has shown that life begins right at conception. Is that “science based” enough for you?

As to organazations like Planned Parenthood doing any good for women. Independant studies have concluded that besides killing an innocent human being, an abortion harms the mother as well. Just one abortion doubles a woman’s chances of developing breast cancer. Many women suffer from a variety of problems after an abortion such as severe depression, grief, and suicidal thoughts. Companies like Planned Parenthood are not telling women about these “side-effects” of that the abortion will kill a human person. Check out http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org for more about abortions impact on women.

Just a final thought, many times it is argued that a mother should be allowed to abort a child resulting from rape or incest. Don’t get me wrong, these are horrible crimes against the mother and child, and the man responsible should be punished severely. However, the child should not be killed for the wrong doing of others.

Interesting… All though I am for womans rights on abortions, they should make it so the women must watch how it happens.

Share your good news somewhere else. We are not interested in your pompass “salvation”. Go pray to the Easter bunny while you are at it. If you want to discuss abortion, then do so on its merits, not your wacky morality.

Blah blah blah. Women have been having abortions for thousands of years and it won’t ever stop.

UNBORN is correct

Please think this through. Dealing with rape. The baby is half yours.

(Attention Whoopi, we are talking about rape-rape here)

Is it right to kill a baby for the sins of the father????

I think a congressman should make a bill. It should be called “The Freedom to Know” Act.

It would give all women the freedom to know what they are aborting. An ultrasound should be done on every women when she goes into a clinic to get an abortion. She would receive five pictures of the ultrasound and a CD of the ultrasound. She would also receive a development chart so she know how far along she is and what has developed in the embryo/fetus. The doctor would then explain to her the exact way the abortion is done. He would tell her how he does the abortion and what happens to the embryo/fetus. She would then sign a form saying that she received these pictures, CD, embryotic development, and the exact abortion procedure to be perfomred at that stage of pregnancy.
After a waiting period of 3 days, she may then return back to the clinic with the pictures and CD. Sign a form saying that she will go ahead with the abortion and that she knows the development of the embryo/fetus and she also knows the procedure that will be performed.
If she goes through with the abortion, the pictures and CD and form will all be in her chart in case PP was ever audited…they would have proof that they do let the women know everything.

I just think that most women that get abortions would change their mind if they could see the child growing in their body. Our body should protect our children, not be a killing field for them. I truly believe that we will advance one day and look back on this time period and be ashamed at the barbaric acts that we have done to our unborn children. I mean…what person deserves to be ripped apart? What person deserves to be cut apart? What person deserves to have their brain sucked out? These are truly horrific acts!!!

Most women do use abortion for birth control…not because of rape and incest. Look at this woman’s clinic alone…they only did abortions twice a month and they had 30-40 abortions done/day. If those were not for birth control…then that means there is a lot of rape occurring in that area alone. If most abortions are done because of rape, then with around 1 million abortions performed each year…that is a lot of rape cases!!

AB…I truly feel badly about your situation, but why couldn’t you give your child up for adoption. You would have given your baby life and also given a couple that can not have children the most wonderful gift ever! Adoption is such a wonderful option. I know that it is a hard choice to make…but you give life to your child and a new life to a couple!!! What an absolute blessing!

Sheri,
Accidents happen. Just ask your hero, Sarah Palin. Not only did her daughter conceive out of wedlock, she did too. A lot of women want to have the procedure over and done with. Why is it necessary for someone like you to jam your sense of morality into an already difficult situation? This is a private decision.

What a bunch of nonsense. She needs to shut her fat face. “I feel so pure.” – I could be wrong, and she very well could have had this change of heart. But, she was most likely paid to say those things.

MYOB…I know accidents happen. My mom had me at 17. My father’s father wanted my mom to abort me. She did not want the abortion (they were illegal back then) Thank God she did not. I am married now to a university professor and we have 6 beautiful children. So, yes…my mom made an accident, but she made the best of it and raised a wonderful daughter who is blessed with 6 children. If my mom had aborted me…none of my children would be here now. Abortion kills generations of children!!

Secondly…do you really think it is OK to suck a baby apart? Cut it apart? Would you do that to a dog? When something is wrong…it is wrong. Rape is wrong! Murder is wrong! Sucking an unborn baby apart is wrong. Plain and simple.

Also…why did you mention Palin? I do not believe that I ever said anything about her.

I’ve watched abortions before and it’s disgusting. However, I’m not going to judge the merits of an action based on aesthetics. If I did, I’d be a vegetarian.

An unborn baby or fetus does not yet have a full consciousness. They are merely automata. Killing one is akin to stepping on an ant. They are physically alive, but consciously they are bordering on nonexistence.

Only one reacting emotionally to the unpleasant images of death, or irrationally holding onto a fabricated image of the supposed creator of our universe would try to argue the abortion is “wrong”. Terminating their lives is saving them from a hellish world full of many evils and little good, and suffering from which not even the best parent can protect them. Do these unborn children a favor!

Religion is for uneducated.

Quickly, everyone go pray to Jebus immediately. Women have the right to choose…

Religion has killed more innocent people over the course of time, than anything else ever has. Go confess to your molesting priests and everything will be fine.

I mention Palin because she is a perfect example of the “do as I say, not as I do” mentality of the conservative right. I am sure that she is against teaching the “birds and the bees” to kids in school if it doesn’t prominently feature abstinence. That worked really great for her and her kin, didn’t it?

That aside, your mother didn’t really have a choice, did she? She could have had a back alley job but that was risky legally and medically. Women now do have choices and they should be the ones to make them, not anyone else. No one is forcing you or anyone else to have an abortion so why do you feel it necessary to dictate to someone else what she can or cannot do?

Why a woman chooses to abort is a private matter and many factors may enter into the picture. She could have been raped or discovered that her birth control of choice did not or may not have worked (things break and sometimes you forget your pill). In this case a “morning after pill” is a possible solution. No one is sucking or pulling anything apart in this case but conservative Christians still object to this procedure as well.

What if a mother discovers that she is carrying a child with anencephaly (no brain)? This child’s lifespan can be measured in days and usually dies within hours of birth. Why would you force a woman to carry a child like this to term? Why should she be tortured with the thought that what should have been a joyful event is doomed to tragedy? Abortion is a compassionate option here and federal dollars should help pay for it.

Another possible case is the discovery that the mother has been diagnosed with cancer and needs immediate chemotherapy that will damage the fetus. Is she supposed to forgo treatment that could save her life and take her chances? Is she supposed to undergo chemo anyway and damage the fetus? Would your world even allow her to even make that choice?

The problem that I have with conservatives is that they tend to treat complex issues in terms of black and white while reality is various shades of gray. How would you treat cases like this?

Planned Parenthood is on the ropes- more and more people are waking up to what kind of organization this is. The abortion rate is declining nationally but Planned Parenthood keeps pushing abortions because they need the money, just as this former clinic director indicates. They’re not about choice, they’re about abortion since if a woman scheduled for an abortion chooses to change her mind, Planned Parenthood loses money. Let’s hope that health care reform doesn’t go through the way it now is written because if it does, Planned Parenthood will get to steal more of our tax dollars to push abortion.

Listen all of you hicks….there is no God. He/She/It does not exist. Neither does Satan. If they did, then why do they not manifest themselves and wage the “war” of good and evil in the open? Because they do not exist. This is only a way to oppress people through fear and intimidation under the guise of some supreme being. When you die…there is no traveling of your “soul”. You just die, and your biological body replenishes the earth. No trip to heaven…no trip to hell. So if you want to praise someone…praise Anon…we are real and alive, and flesh and blood….. The cake is a lie!

That being said….sounds like PP made a poor choice for a Director….Abortion is needed to keep the biologically deformed, the unwanted, and the rape pregnancy a viable option to women.

So come on you religious wingnuts…flame on…the e-mail is good.

Elliot…so is it OK to kill newborns? They really do not do anything but eat, sleep, and poop. Honestly…they have no clue what is going on around them. Also, would it be OK to kill mentally impaired people? I am not talking about injecting them with something that would put them to sleep (like you would do to an old animal) I am saying to cut them apart, or chemically burn their skin, or suck their brains out? I mean…since their brains are worthless, that should be the choice of death for them. Also, you are assuming that all unplanned children have horrid lives. That is not true. But, using your way of thinking…I say we should go around and kill all poor people…I mean…how good are their lives…really? You would be saving them from many evils and little good. End their suffering now.

Steve…you should say, “Religion is for the uneducated” or “Religion is for uneducated people” Just want to help you out there! ;-)

MYOB

You do not know what Palin taught in her home. I promise you that just as many moms that teach birth control…their kids get pregnant too. Kids mess up in all households! Conservative homes and Liberal homes.

Secondly, you mean to tell me that you think it would be easier for a woman to abort her child that has a birth defect? So, which death is better….burning a live in the womb, having your brain sucked out OR..growing to 9 months, being born and having a loving mom and dad hold you. Kiss you…name you…take pictures of you. Holding you until you die? My husband and I said that if there was ever anything wrong with any of our kids, we would carry until birth and deliver that child. Hold and love that child. But, you think it would easier on the mom just to abort! Which mother over time is going to have more guilt?

Also, we do dictate what people can do. underage drinking, drunk driving, drugs, prostitution, murder, rape…the list goes on and on. We have rules in a civil society….an abortion is a horrible and barbaric procedure!

Would love to discuss more…but I got to go!!

In response to MYOB!. “Sheri, Accidents happen. Just ask your hero, Sarah Palin. Not only did her daughter conceive out of wedlock, she did too. A lot of women want to have the procedure over and done with. Why is it necessary for someone like you to jam your sense of morality into an already difficult situation? This is a private decision.”

A private decision? We are talking about somebody’s life here. I can see how the situation can be difficult for many woman, but this isn’t a “procedure” this is the murder of an innocent unborn child. Both the mother and child have the right to life and liberty. It is not a private decision because it involves at least two people.

I agree with MTOB! when he(or she) states that it is a “difficult situation.” It is. More than half of women who have abortions do so under pressure from the father, parents, and family. Women are lied to at the abortion facility and told that it is a “routine proceedure.” They are not informed that the “routine proceedure” is intended to kill the innocent human life within them. They are not told that the abortion will double their chances of getting breast cancer. They are not told of numerous complications that may result from their abortion like acute grief, sever depression, guilt, and other emotional and ph