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One man’s “railing against the government” is another man’s free political speech. I agree with most of what he said.

His tactics, however, were totally wrong. Single-handedly declaring war on the pentagon with a pair of 9mm’s is NOT the way to restore Constitutional order. He could hardly have acted worse to further his own beliefs. This is another setback in the struggle to restore Constitutionality to our government. Sad indeed.

why does something sound fishy about this? aren’t they currently debating gun laws in D.C.? aren’t they trying to demonize and marginalize people who hold similar views as this guy? really, all three were “grazed”? interesting.

I agree with his points, and on a certain level his methods… I do think this
was a bit premature – our country isn’t fallen into total tyranny as much as
our government has decayed. I believe that there is a point at which actions,
such as those he took, are justified. However, I think that however sincere
his intentions may have been, current circumstances do not justify violent
revolution.

Also, I must concur with “tinfoil hat” – this is all too convenient for them right now.

Yeah, I agree with libertarian416 and tinfoil hat… the guy’s statements do not support what he did. Something stinks. He might have been angry with what is happening in our country and the damage by the socialist/communists biting our Constitution and our FREEDOMS, but people who are angry about the situation don’t break the connection with those values by going on a rampage that damages all of those values… there was something else going on that pushed him to do this. The anger with our horrible situation does not alone push people over the edge. People who are really angry about what is happening and has been happening since WWII in our country, don’t take out random Americans or end their own lives- they want to fight in a different way, and win not lose. We need more information on his life, health, relationships, but doubt we will get it from the MSM because this way it helps the anti-America little workers.

I don’t think this guy was serious about actually killing anyone. Either that or he was a lousy shot and didn’t plan very well. Some deep digging into his background is imperative right now. As far as I’m concerned, his status is domestic terrorist regardless of what his views are. And maybe I’m paranoid, but I tend to lean toward tinfoil hat’s questioning. Something just doesn’t add up.

I heard that he was a 9/11 truther…. (you know…one of the liberal wacko types…like Van Jones)
But, the liberal media likes to cover over anything that involves one of their own.

So, we will probably hear that this guy was a right wing Bush supporter who hates Obama.

@ tinfoil hat
@ libertarian416

Aw c’mon guys! Our government has never lied to us before!

OK, this is a MAJOR WARNING to all. Please consider my post and pass it on to others to consider ASAP.

Simple examination time. The recent rash of incidents where someone jumps off the deep end seems to have many commonalities. Let me give some examples and you can do additional research yourself and make up your own mind.

1) In recent events we have individuals committing murders and either killing themselves in the process or being taken down in the end.

2) In the after math we have a finger pointing game going on that comes from both the left and the right of the political spectrum with sides intentionally leaving out important information that would destroy their argument. One example of late is the intentional cutting off of the last two lines of the suicide message (first done in the Washington Post) from the guy who flew his plane into the IRS building, strangely called a “Manifesto” by the press and political pundits, where he quotes Karl Marx as a promo for Marxism in comments published by leftists pointing fingers at tax protesters being a product of the right. Ergo, a wacko righting extremist Tea Party member is claimed and blamed and no mention is made of his Marxism promo.

3) Ever since the Uni-bomber, at least as much as I remember, suicide notes or published material dug up in the aftermath are now referred to as a “Manifesto” instead of a suicide note or the perpetrators view points on the world. Given the reference seems to come from the title, the “Communist Manifesto”, what is this interest in labeling everything a “Manifesto”? Timothy McVeigh was also shown to have political views that simply didn’t match up from one side against the other thus making things rather convoluted.

4) Last night someone shot two Pentagon Police officers in front of the Pentagon. The shooter is then shot and later dies. Examining the background of the individual reveals he seems to have some relationship to the so called “Truthers”, generally associated with left wing politics, and an even further back claim about government conspiracy and cover up regarding U.S. government action in South America. Also considered a left wing conspiracy idea against the government.

However, this morning also revealed though that he also had the same contempt for the incremental taxation of the people by a government that never seems to find something else for an excuse to steal more tax money from the people. Again, a line is made by the leftists to determine that this is so called right wing extremism gone over the top.

5) Admittedly, so there’s no one making accusations or confusing this, I tend to side politically with right wing views of how things should be thus keeping with the Founding Fathers views of our form of government. Having said that though it seems to me that something in this current event riddled climate is missing from the equation being promoted by political pundits on both sides. I can understand the desire to point fingers from one political party or spectrum at the other when it comes to recent events, but I cannot put the two together when people actually have the resources to check for themselves the very documents for what they actually say without the political editing.

It seems to me that there’s something very unsavory afoot in the underground in this country that has a third view of things in government and it is playing on both sides of the political spectrum against each other with a resulting violent culmination. Where it comes from is anyone’s guess. I would naturally tend to think that it’s a subversive product of the left based in my own admitted biases and not necessarily leftist political agenda currently actively spoken in free speech nor political partisanship. In fact, I’d be taking a closer look at past attempts at violence to force a dreamed of overthrow by communists, but as I stated, this comes from my own biases and further examination is quite prudent just in case I could be totally wrong. Maybe even a possibility of a Middle East connection could be involved here since this material left behind has just one ultimate direction as a result. The violent overthrow of the U.S. government seems to be the published wished for result by the very people committing the violent acts. It’s not abortionists nor abortion protesters. It’s not one race over another. It’s not government run health care versus free enterprise market. It’s not militias. It’s not religions or lack there of. Instead we see a strange combining of things that seems to carry part of one side of issues and matches them up with the other side and their issues that would normally be held in a left versus right spectrum. Strange bedfellows, if you will.

What I’m suggesting is a sort of brainwashing going on that’s not being highlighted in the current left versus right debate. Each and every time something is being brought to the forefront in political debate we get what appears to be some wacko who jumps off the deep end that political pundits are quick to set upon and spin towards their own direction even when the obvious is pointing at them. At this time I’d much rather know the source of this underground political machine that seems to be bent on driving people over the edge with both sides of political argument resulting in violent acts. Then get back to straitening out government.

When I see someone condemning the IRS and taxation while in the same breath promoting government run everything without concern for where the money comes from, when I see this same thing with a condemnation of government involvement in our lives and in the same breath advocating even more of it, something is terribly amiss. Shades of the Reichstag fire anyone? Or maybe a third interest?

This guy sounds like a vintage Tea-bagger. And you guys don’t think that he was “serious about killing anyone”? Shooting someone is about as serious as you can get. There was not only no excuse for what he did, it was pointless as well. What did these two guards have to do with the “blatant violations of the Constitution’s limitations on the economic role of the government”?

What a dope!

WOW!!!! poor RON PAUL lost a VOTER.

This guy was a 911 truther (ie democrat Van Jones), hated the US military (ie Democrats) and did not know how to shoot a gun ( like most limp wristed democrats). Sounds to me like another douchey bag nutjob democrat bites the dust.

Quick! Someone go check up on kmichaels.

Sounds like a radical progressive willing to die for his radical cause and push the blame on the tea party… just like that other guy that tried the same thing. They will get more and more violent.

By the end of the day, this guy will have three pickup trucks, four or five bibles, and five guns–oh, wait, that’s me. Sorry.

This guy is a Truther, Pothead, convicted pot grower from CA, and sounds pretty gay. (That’s why he couldn’t hit anything?)

So, it’s confirmed: another one of Obama’s commie liberals gone wild like Amy Bishop and John Stack, the plane attacker.

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America…the police had been watching this man since 2003 because his parents were concerned about him. He had been in and out of mental institutions to get help.

My only question is…with this background and if the police were keeping tabs on him, how did he buy a gun?

America…mentally ill individuals are all around us. Anything can trigger them to violence.

A murder scene in a movie, an article in a magazine, newspaper and/or TV, a run in with a co-worker, etc.

Anything can set them off.

There are millions of citizens in this country who are fighting what our government is doing, but we millions of Americans are not going to fly planes into buildings, or shoot people randomly.

It is unfortunate that things like this happen, but they will continue to happen because we do have mentally ill people walking the streets.

But the pundits will try to lump all ‘real’ Americans fighting back against this government into the ‘crazy’ column.

That is wrong…and it is a way to justify squashing freedom of speech we enjoy in this Republic.

We have every right, as Americans in a free Republic, to ‘question with boldness’ our government and/or any agency we feel is doing wrong.

So don’t let the pundits silence you…do not let them put you into the same category as a mentally unstable citizen…the only mentally unstable citizens are those who have ‘true’ mental deficiences and the Democratzi ‘loons’ who head our government…not ‘real’ Americans fighting back against them!

My sympathies go out to all the victims of this tragic event and especially to those parents who tried to get help for their son and now have to pick up the pieces of what went wrong…and the loss of their son.

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@ Eileen

“My sympathies go out to all the victims of this tragic event and especially to those parents who tried to get help for their son and now have to pick up the pieces of what went wrong…and the loss of their son.”

+1.
Very well stated.

I smell MKUltra… first the Texas plane crash, now this guy both committing acts that are making anyone who questions authority look like madmen. It’s too good to be true for the people at the top of the pyramid running the show. Psyops in preparation for the final stages of the birth of the New World Order.

Yes, it is terribly sad that the man had mental issues and killed innocent people. Perhaps there are other comments he made that showed he had severe mental issues, but what he said on the PODCAST was not one of them.

What does the the Declaration of Independence state in bold terms? Did Sam Adams or Patrick Henry have “mental issues” when it came to tyrants?

Everyone side-steps round the “revolution” thing, but does anyone believe that the corruption and mess we find ourselves in is really going to be settled by peaceful negotiations withe the marxists in charge? Dream on.

Did peaceful negotiations between Hitler and people who held alternate views change the totalitarian’s mind?

Everybody wants a change but they are PC’ing around the dance floor.

Just sayin’.

libertarian416 March 5th, 2010 – 11:44 am

Also, I must concur with “tinfoil hat” – this is all too convenient for them right now.

Been a lot of incidents like this – most sound like MK-ULTRA.

Gee, Beck can really stoke the flames under quite a few knuckleheads can’t he

Sai Chi is their any way to slow this madness if we vote them out.

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