Paul: Hamas Was Started By Israel

"You know, if you look at the history, Hamas was encouraged and really started by Israel.â€

December 28, 2011 at 3:14 am - C-Span
Dateline: Washington, D. C.
★FALCON★   December 28th, 2011 - 3:18 am

Ron Paul is a regular riot when he says Bin Laden was a CIA Op.

This fruitcake hit his expiration date.

kennysolomon   December 28th, 2011 - 3:22 am

You know, if you look at the history, The University Of Stoooopid was encouraged and really started by a freakazoid doctor from Mars.

At some point soon, there'll be an official announcement that The Paulistinian Authority is demanding it's own state and it's military commander (Alex Jones) is riding in on the next chem-trail to make it happen.

Kingkaiser   December 28th, 2011 - 3:25 am

As you hear his speeches, you can totally understand his reasoning for wanting legalized drugs.__

TommyRichards   December 28th, 2011 - 3:27 am

Just shut up and start a campaign to lowering tax rates and repealing all legislation passed by this commie-centric, self-serving congress!

Bearmaul   December 28th, 2011 - 3:29 am

And yet the PaulBots continue to support him, just how does this…this….this…well crazy guy occupy so many minds.

Ivan_in_Phoenix   December 28th, 2011 - 3:34 am

Is Iowa an open primary? I'm starting to wonder if people being polled are lying about their political affiliation and if the Democrats can vote for Paul during this primary? Is this the Dem version of Operation Chaos?

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 3:34 am

He has…Jesse Ventura eyes…So it was American CIA who radicalized Muslims…I'm sure over a billion Muslims will be glad to hear that…Has this dufus ever read any Quran or listen to what clerics say? It's Islam stupid…it's in the Quran, it reflects the behavior of Mohammad…The Islamic behavior that is called radical, is actually normal…Madrasses do teach hate, but teaching hate is an Islamic standard taught for over 1300 years…Way before the CIA was created…Paul is giving credit to the CIA when the credit should go to Allah/Mohammad…

Nightfly24   December 28th, 2011 - 3:39 am

Don't let Paul hide behind a few popular economic ideas. He's a nut case on so many other fronts. We don't want to follow the worst President in history with another bad choice. NO on PAUL!!!

Obamaisatraitor   December 28th, 2011 - 3:43 am

They are always a percentage of the population throughout history.

HuskersLoveBo   December 28th, 2011 - 3:43 am

Well, you elected him and his son. Congratulations.

Obamaisatraitor   December 28th, 2011 - 3:44 am

Yes. All they have to do is show up at the caucus, register on the spot as Republican. With Obummer's stash why not send money to Paul to humiliate the rest of the Republican party?

6musket6   December 28th, 2011 - 3:45 am

He has too much baggage that is marked I visited "clownland"……

Hesed   December 28th, 2011 - 3:45 am

Is there any wonder why everyone just wishes he and his buddy obama would just go away????

Obamaisatraitor   December 28th, 2011 - 3:46 am

Looks like he is going for the 1 million (?) Muslim voters in the US, plus Obama's donations from the Middle East.

Hesed   December 28th, 2011 - 3:46 am

What a racist fool!!!!

It's a shame so many good people support this fool. But the same is said of obama and his supporters.

TheLastBestHope   December 28th, 2011 - 3:49 am

GOP nominee Ron Paul = 4 more years of Obama.

Small children understand this.

AussieDon   December 28th, 2011 - 3:59 am

Well Done to Breitbart for showing this.

Here is the Wall Street Journal article saying the same. Of course there are many others.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12327557229501184...

Joseph_McCarthy   December 28th, 2011 - 4:05 am

A person this delusional is not fit to be president in my opinion!

AussieDon   December 28th, 2011 - 4:07 am

The polls disagree.

In a match up with Obama Paul is either 1st or 2nd, trading places with Romney.

Not only that Paul will get the anyone but Obama crowd, the sheeple that support the Republican party, independants and dis-affected dems and with an organisation and passionate supporters that surpasses not just every GOP candidate but Obama as well, it will be a landslide.

Why do you think the Iowans are moving to paul in droves, it's because they have had a chance to have the message fully explained. The more he wins the bigger the platform the more time he gets and it's only just beginning.

Small children and people with your intellect don't understand this.

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 4:08 am

Who is you? I didn't vote for either one of them…I only vote for Conservatives…

KusoJiJi   December 28th, 2011 - 4:12 am

Can't help but notice that your average Ron Paul supporter sounds more like a CODE PINKER then they do a Republican or a Conservative. Watch what happens when any criticism surfaces of Ron Paul, you are immediately dubbed a Neo Con. Regardless of what Paul's Code Pinkers and Libertarian supporters say, Paul's world view and feelings about America is full tilt crackpot. He may be a radical departure from the status quo but In "Ron Paul World", America is the root of all evil. His intention is to take us back to a pre world war II America in which Fascism, Imperialism and Communism were allowed to run rampant only sucking us in anyway leading to an even greater amount of death and destruction. If Ron Paul has his way, he'd let those forces run loose again including allowing Islamism to destroy Israel and to wreak havoc on western societies . How the hell is this guy doing so well in the Republican primary? The answer is simple, his support comes from Code Pinkers and other left wing zealots intent on screwing up this election in favor of the Democrats. Conservatives need to unite behind one candidate now!!!

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 4:17 am

Enlisting rattlesnakes is risky…A lot of Muslims don't vote at all because it is against Islam to involve themselves in non believers systems…
That's why Muslims are not really Americans…They are Muslims only, residing in America, even if they have citizenship…
On the list of najis (filthy things) non believers in Allah, called kuffar, are a notch below dog urine on the scale…The Quran has Allah saying you are the worst of creatures…That's you bud…If anyone thinks any of these people actually like them, or are good Americans, they have been deceived…

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 4:18 am

Yeah, all those Democrats voting for Dr. Demento really help his cause, don't they?

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 4:18 am

Lie.

Try reading the article, moron.

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 4:20 am

"Watch what happens when any criticism surfaces of Ron Paul, you are immediately dubbed a Neo Con."

That's because "neocon" is paulbotspeak for "JOOOOOOOOOSSSS".

ottffss   December 28th, 2011 - 4:20 am

Ron Paul is a total Fraud and Should NOT be in the GOP Primary. He quit the GOP in 1987 when he sent a letter to Reagan pointing out the bad things about Reagan and the GOP, and Ron Paul QUIT the GOP! BUT NOW… He is using the GOP! Talk about a HYPOCRITE / FRAUD!

The entire Ron Paul campaign is one HUGE Fraudulent deceitful campaign… 1.) One day he is NOT a GOP next he is a GOP (or using the GOP ticket?, which again is a FRAUD/deceitful person)
2.) He states he is a Christian, ok maybe in their minds, But not by the fruits of the bible that they stand for or produce… But Tell me WHAT Christian cult, condones the use of Illegal Drugs, Prostitution, and Gay Marriage??? Please tell me… Do they hold their Prayer Groups at the Local Drug Dealers Home? Or strip club joint?
NO CHRISTIAN Condones ANY form of legalizing ILLEGAL DRUGS/ Prostitution or Gay Marriage… Some Cult Christian groups may, But the Bible DOES NOT condone any of them!
What Christian Group denounces Israel…? Again #2 Deceitful campaign…

3.) He STUFFS U.S Congressional Bills with Pork, (Money) then he Votes "NO" on them to look good to the people. ????
WHO STUFFS A BILL with pork, then Votes "NO" ??? Why stuff it with pork? If you are going to be FOR Pork then FREAKING VOTE YES! on the bill !! and quit trying to be… Again… "Deceitful" Here again #3 Another Deceitful Campaign tactic/person… Mixed Messages.

4.) He stated that the U.S is the one at Fault for 9/11, ok fine that is his belief… BUT! He also has a belief that the U.S was the ones that blew itself up on 9/11… Which is it??? We did it to ourselves intentionally? or we did it to ourselves because we were in an Arab land? Again, Mixed Message / Deceitful.

5.) following off of #4, The Ron Paul folks would have you believe that we INVADED! Saudi Arabia and imposed ourselves in an Arab nation which brought about 9/11… right that is why they say we were attacked… Ron Paul's first of two beliefs in above #4… BUT!! The facts are.. WE WERE INVITED! to build bases in Saudi Arabia during the Kuwaiti / Saddam event… Then Osama bin nut-head took FULL advantage of this and flew airplanes into our buildings stating that we were on his holy land… BUT! Osama was already going to do this and took this excuse to execute this horrific act. He was doing stuff prior to this Airplane event… BUT!
WE DID NOT INVADE or IMPOSE ourselves on the Saudi's WE WERE INVITED by the Saudi Government.
Again deceitful of the Ron Paul campaign to push this on the public that we Forcefully imposed / occupied that Arab land, when IN FACT we were invited there by their Government, and Osama would have done that act no matter what we did. He just needed an better excuse. But the Paul campaign has said that lie enough that people believe it, look it up, we were invited to build bases in Saudi Arabia as the Saudis feared Saddam. As now they fear Iran. So, Again the Paul campaign is being Deceitful.

6.) Does Ron Paul's Campaign go around stating (as reported) that they are endorsed by Code Pink? NO! As the GOP is strongly against Code Pink… The Closet of this campaign is FULL of deceitful/hidden bones…
WHO GETS! $1 Million Dollars from a Communist News Network RT TV and Runs in a GOP Primary? Can Someone tell me the last candidate that did that? Why would a (reportedly) KGB/Russian intelligence run News Network give funds to a GOP Primary Candidate? But it did NOT come straight from the Russian Intelligence service it came through a News Caster that has U.S citizenship, so it did not actually come from a foreign source. It is in the links below, a very disturbing article to read, that leads to several other groups that are not that stable (for a use of kind words).
Continued below…

ottffss   December 28th, 2011 - 4:21 am

Look Ron Paul may be a Great Dad, Great Father, Great neighbor/ Person, etc… But he is NOT stable/qualified to run our nation, based on his foreign policy or Should I say lack of a sound minded Foreign policy… his TALK of being a Constitutionalist, which there is NOTHING to back that claim, What has he done in the 30 plus years of talking about that? Show me what has been done in the past 30 years of this talk… What has been done to the fed? It is all talk to suck in the college kids, that's all they can run on the Fed and the Constitution, but what have they done regarding them in 30 years????

Sorry, Ron Paul worshippers, I know what it is like to really support someone, but you guys either LOVE POT! or your hell bent on having a Sodom and Gomorrah nation that we hide in, and watch innocent people all around the world get killed while we set in our cave nice and drugged until the enemy comes to our doorstep.

What do you tell the South Koreans, when Ron Paul pulls out all our Troops from South Korea and the North Koreans Invade them the next day???? OH WELL it isn't our problem… (Doesn't GOD say to defend and help the defensive less)? Or did he say sit back smoke a joint, get a prostitute, and or be gay… and hide in your cave it isn't any of your concern…?
That is the Ron Paul motto, Oh Well it isn't our problem… SELF, SELF, SELF, just like the left Democrats do. They think / live for today, BUT HAVE NO CLUE what Tomorrow will bring as a result of their action or LACK of action.

IT BOGGLES MY MIND! that you guys can NOT see the result of allowing Illegal drugs, Removing Deterrents around the world… Stuffing bills with pork then voting NO? If you remove deterrents around the world Guess what! The world isn't filled with Barney and Friends people… It is called reality and there are bad people and nations out there that WILL react to the inaction the VOID!

China would take Taiwan and all that south Asia area, Russia would move strongly on their agenda, the Arab nations would advance their agenda, Iran would spread Jihad around the world as their constitution states, Chavez would move on South America… The list goes on and on… Africa Muslims would Move heavy on the Christian Africans… etc… Ron Paul would initiate World War 3 by his withdrawal.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing…"
And that is the Ron Paul campaign motto, do nothing, hide in our borders, legalize Drugs, Prostitution, etc… Care less about the world, as it doesn't effect them immediately, but they are blind to the following days to come.
The same motto that Sodom and Gomorrah had, and several nations and villages that got wiped out.

ottffss   December 28th, 2011 - 4:22 am

Ron Paul would NOT listen to his own Generals, http://youtu.be/irgeoE3xrL4
Iran getting nukes: http://youtu.be/BDvaTqLlZlA

Ron Paul 9/11 truther: skip ahead to the :55 sec mark and a lady ask him, "Why can't you come out about the truth of 9/11" :http://youtu.be/OsSpNm8QUlA
-Sorry that link has been removed from YouTube, another one removed, I left it there to show you all, this is what the Ron Paul campaign are doing, they are taking out the other Ron Paul beliefs that we attacked ourselves, that he believes, or why did he state this and why did they remove the video?
But… I found another copy of it here.. .http://youtu.be/88×6JdfjwCY
They are sanitizing the insane beliefs of Ron Paul that they DO NOT want you to see. I have fixed other broken/removed links below.

Ron Paul blames America for 9/11 http://youtu.be/VfuIqLVY9Cs his other stance, one is we attacked ourselves the other is we are the cause. Which is it? DId we rocket ourselves or did we cause the arabs to attack us? He has 2 beliefs that conflict with each other.
Paul: 9/11 prompted 'glee" in Bush administration: http://youtu.be/04ttQOp9sR4

Busted Lying, Stuffing Pork (money) into bills that he knows will pass, but then he votes "NO" on them to look good, more corruption! who would be this deceitful?: http://youtu.be/GyPLFKUdhqY
Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who is the darling of the libertarian right, has more earmarks in the pork-laden $410-billion spending bill than any other Republican. http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/15/nation/na...

#1 Ron Paul Stop aid to Israel: http://youtu.be/-vWRnErMOBo
#2 Ron Paul would NOT help Israel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXD29MmxX4Q
#3 Ron Paul Opposes House Resolution Supporting Israel's Attack on Gaza. Which Recognizes "Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza" supports a peace agreement… Ron Paul votes NO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiKAyoSM33o

Ron Paul's stance on, Pro Drug, Prostitution, Gay: http://youtu.be/LbVwN3dEdU4
Ron Paul would also Release ALL prisoners with drug charges/ non-violent: http://youtu.be/cldRh1SkRok
And this is his favorite Network to air stuff, "RT TV" but I am NOT going to air/post all their Communist Videos, you can look them up on YouTube, RT TV is A RUSSIAN COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK! Since when does an U.S Presidential Candidate air 80% + of there stuff on a Russian News Network? Do You have a better clue why they DONATED $1 MILLION DOLLARS to his campaign?
Ron Paul Took $1 Million dollars in donations from Russia Communist News Network RT TV: <a href="http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=334753” target=”_blank”>http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=334753

Ron Paul would increase this activity World Wide: http://youtu.be/w6UA3cAvzqs
Mark Levin Ron Paul and Supporters are Crackpots: http://youtu.be/5KKAJL9DNNk
Code Pink endorses Ron Paul: http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/...
Rockwell served as Ron Paul's congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982. A very strong advocate of Code Pink.
Mark Levin and Jeffrey Lord discuss Lord’s article that reveals how Ron Paul is no conservative, but rather a neo-liberal: http://www.therightscoop.com/jeffrey-lord-on-mark...
Ron Paul and the Neo-liberal Reeducation Campaign: http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/23/ron-paul...

ottffss   December 28th, 2011 - 4:28 am

And here we see more evidence to support the Video and audio files… and what many already know… Look folks Draw your OWN conclusions, but look at all the facts…Don't just listen to some candidates words for a day, check their history/ their fruits/ results, which way have they leaned in the past… etc… and make your own decision, it is quite clear

Eric Dondero, who worked for Ron Paul on and off for a total of 12 years dating back to 1987, released a jaw-dropping statement Monday in regards to his old boss, Ron Paul. http://rightwingnews.com/election-2012/statement-...

Quote" “He is completely clueless when it comes to Hispanic and Black culture, particularly Mexican-American culture. And he is most certainly intolerant of Spanish and those who speak strictly Spanish in his presence, (as are a number of Americans, nothing out of the ordinary here.)"

“He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.”

“For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that ‘saving the Jews,’ was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just ‘blowback,’ for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such. ”

“He immediately stated to us staffers, me in particular, that Bush/Cheney were going to use the attacks as a precursor for ‘invading’ Iraq. He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.”

“At the very last minute Ron switched his stance and voted ‘Yay,’ much to the great relief of Jackie and I. He never explained why, but I strongly suspected that he realized it would have been political suicide; that staunchly conservative Victoria would revolt, and the Republicans there would ensure that he would not receive the nomination for the seat in 2002.”

Now lets look at the FACTUAL Video/Audio links above… I would say this ex-employee of Ron Paul was telling the truth, and NOT just a disgruntle employee as the Ron Paul campaign has stated. ALL the links Above POINT to and back this ex-Paul employee's comments.

Bearmaul   December 28th, 2011 - 4:30 am

You're absolutely right, these folks make the argument against evolution or survival of the fittest because, if it were true how did they survive.

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 4:33 am

It may be that Israel invented Hamas for security reasons…But even if it did, what is so strange about that? The entire area is a creation of someone…Hamas was created, Fatah was created, Islamic jihad was created etc. The 'Palestinian' people themselves were created…for one purpose…to destroy Israel…I don't usually cut and paste but this is from them…

At a ceremony marking the 24th anniversary of the founding of Hamas, Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip Ismail Haniyeh said that Hamas may work for the "interim objective of liberation of Gaza, the West Bank, or Jerusalem," but that this "interim objective" and "reconciliation" with Fatah will not change Hamas' long-term "strategic" goal of eliminating all of Israel:
"The armed resistance and the armed struggle are the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel]… We won't relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine."

Consrvativ_KDH   December 28th, 2011 - 4:34 am

NOW I understand why wRONg Paul wants to legalize drugs…

So he can keep on taking the stuff he's using without breaking the law.

Eileen for Freedom   December 28th, 2011 - 4:38 am

Keep talking…"Pot" Paul…every time you open your mouth…garbage spews out!

HE WILL NOT WIN…AGAIN!
HE CANNONT WIN…AGAIN!
HE SHOULD NOT HAVE RUN…AGAIN!

America…this man is even more dangerous than the one we have now…who works for puppetmasters seeking to take America down from within…but this crazy old man…is ruled by the crazy thoughts and opinions in his head…and they are not good!

HuskersLoveBo   December 28th, 2011 - 4:38 am

Really, you do not know? Why he is part and parcel of the GOP clown show. December has not been kind to you, has it?

savior   December 28th, 2011 - 4:40 am

this moronic buffoon has tons of brainwashed followers, just like the kenyan born muslim usurper.

smart people are the minority.

laissAZfaire   December 28th, 2011 - 4:43 am

The more this squeaky, senile old fart talks, the more I'm convinced he'll fade like a three legged horse down the stretch. This isolationist, "blame America first" garbage only panders to the batsh_t loons he's recruited from here to Timbuctoo since his last failed attempt at the Presidency. America would be stark raving mad to have this jackass as the only other "viable" candidate to Obama. A vote for Paul is a vote for Obama, plain and simple. He is NOT a Republican. I'm not even sure what the hell he is, other than crazier than a sh_thouse rat.

Hell, even Obama gave the order to take out Bin Laden – the only good thing he's done in 3 years. Paul would have pinned a medal to SOB's chest for his work against the Soviets. Yes Paul, the enemy of my greater enemy is my friend. But circumstances change. The world has changed since the advent of the steam engine. Your isolationism is outdated and is no longer relevant. Go sell crazy somewhere else…we're all stocked up here.

AussieDon   December 28th, 2011 - 4:43 am

Freedom and Liberty brings people together, my negitive friend.

midwestmash   December 28th, 2011 - 4:47 am

Stupid old man!!!

szysgt   December 28th, 2011 - 4:53 am

It could also be argued that the US created Al Quaeda by funding the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. Sometimes actions have unintended consequences.

ken_lad   December 28th, 2011 - 4:54 am

ron paul is just another "I hate the Federal Reserve and Jews" loser. Paul is an old and confused Truther that should wrap himself up in an old burqa and go lay down someplace.

CJCulpper   December 28th, 2011 - 4:59 am

The only race Ron Paul will ever win is the most idiotic statements from one politician
And right now hes running a close second to Joe Biden .
With all the information and videos coming out of the vault the last couple of days on Ron Paul folks
will see the true man and hes a dangerous loon .
To make the accutations that Israel "created" Hamas is just plain crazy , Im sure Israel like most
countries was looking for someone to send missles into schools and homes to kill women and children
Makes perfect sense to me !!

iconicfreedomaz   December 28th, 2011 - 5:03 am

Breitbart is continuing to show on his site, misinformation and the spin of stories. Whether he knows about it or not, just like the call for Paul to be accountable for KNOWING, so, too, is Breitbart.

If Israel DID, in fact, help encourage & create Hamas as a counter-attack to Arafat, then it's true. The fact that Hamas moved to a place of wanting to destroy Israel is another story.

but for Breitbart & crew to post a story to incite ire from people and to misrepresent, only shows his credibility is starting to crumble time after time on Paul's campaign.

Has Paul ever legislated from a racist stance? (did he vote against MLK day or something similar?)

Has Paul ever legislated from an anti-Israel stance? (did he vote against support of Israel? he holds the same views as Netanyahu so not sure that even flies)

are some of you so credulous and so self-involved in your personal agenda that you can't truly see what is happening in the media and with the corporation trying to smear every candidate but Romney?

PushHereToFlush   December 28th, 2011 - 5:04 am

Wow. I think that if Ron Paul ever does work up the nerve to initiate military action to defend America, he'll strike Israel and its Jews first.

Jorhino   December 28th, 2011 - 5:05 am

Speaking of clowns…how's the last three years been for you?

AussieDon   December 28th, 2011 - 5:11 am

Ron Paul is not picking sides, I know you feel he should but the world doesn't work that way, it is more complicated.

If you truely believe in the interests of Israel Ron Paul's foriegn policy and that of your founding fathers is the answer.

America is Bankrupt. If you don't know this then you aren't paying attention. We could go into the spending and entiltlements and the cost of the empire but when your debt is admitted to be $15 trillion with unfunded liabilities of 60-80 trillion with a projected defict off into the future, you must know the writing is on the wall. When the political class is argueing how much to increase spending and convincing the public they are actually cutting, surely you can see that everything is not alright.

You have lost your manufacturing base, real umemployment is 22% inflation on the old scale is at 9%, stymlus failed as did the bailouts (bushes and obamas) QE1 and 2 have come and gone.

The US Dollar is the only thing keeping your economy going but it to is dying. It's fate as the world reserve currency has been sealed. The consequences for America of a dollar collapse is frightening but even the loss of World Reserve Currency Status will be hugely detrimental to an already fragile economy.

Investigate the MF Global collapse and the CME to get a sense for how close this is to happening. Ron Paul has been warning about all this stuff for thirty years because he understands the laws of economics, no one in the current political class does (actually some do but don't care – but that is another story)

My point is Israel don't need to be tethered to the US as it goes down. Israel's own PM says they don't need American soldiers, they should be allowed the freedom to set their own borders their own treaties.

Also, and i don't think enough is made of this, the US funds the enemies of Israel many times more than it funds Israel. That will stop immediately. But Paul won't stop you sending money to Israel volunterily.

HDThoreau   December 28th, 2011 - 5:11 am

You people seem to hear what you want to hear. Either that, or you don't read history and are oblivious. This is from wikipedia's History of Hamas entry:

"With its takeover of Gaza after the 1967 war with Egypt, Israel hunted down secular Palestinian Liberation Organization factions, but dropped the previous Egyptian rulers' harsh restrictions against Islamic activists.[19] In fact, Israel for many years tolerated and at times encouraged Islamic activists and groups as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the PLO and its dominant faction, Fatah.[19][20]

Among the activists benefited was Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza, who had also formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya, a charity recognized by Israel in 1979. Israel allowed the organization to build mosques, clubs, schools, and a library in Gaza.[19]

Yitzhak Segev, the acting governor of Gaza in 1979, said he had no illusions about Yassin's intentions, having watched an Islamist movement topple the Shah as Israel's military attache in Iran. However, according to Segev, Yassin and his charity were "100% peaceful" towards Israel during this time, and Segev and other Israeli officials feared being viewed as an enemy of Islam. Segev maintained regular contact with Yassin, met with him around a dozen times, and arranged for Yassin to be taken to Israel for hospital treatment.[19]

Also, Segev said, Fatah was "our main enemy."[19][21] Islamists frequently attacked secular and leftist Palestinian movements, including Fatah, but the Israeli military avoided getting involved in those quarrels.[19] It stood aside, for example, when Mujama al-Islamiya activists stormed the Red Crescent charity's headquarters in Gaza, but Segev did send soldiers to prevent the burning down of the home of the head of the organization.[19]

In 1984 the Israeli army received intelligence that Yassin's followers were collecting arms in Gaza. Israeli troops raided mosques and found a cache of weapons.[19] Yassin was arrested, but told his interrogators the weapons were meant to be used against secular Palestinians, not Israel. The cleric was released a year later and allowed to continue to develop his movement in Gaza.[19]

Around the time of Yassin's arrest, Avner Cohen, an Israeli religious affairs official, sent a report to senior military officers and civilian leadership in Gaza advising them of the dangers of the Islamic movement, but this report and similar ones were ignored.[19] Former military intelligence officer Shalom Harari said the warnings were ignored out of neglect, not a desire to fortify the Islamists: "Israel never financed Hamas. Israel never armed Hamas."[19][22] In contrast, French investigative newspaper Le Canard enchaîné writes that Shin Bet also supported Hamas as an attempt to give "a religious slant" to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, to make the West believe that it was essentially between Jews and Muslims.[23]"

Omnivorous   December 28th, 2011 - 5:12 am

Nice find.

iconicfreedomaz   December 28th, 2011 - 5:14 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

"Early Islamic activism in Gaza

With its takeover of Gaza after the 1967 war with Egypt, Israel hunted down secular Palestinian Liberation Organization factions but dropped the previous Egyptian rulers' harsh restrictions against Islamic activists.[16] In fact, Israel for many years tolerated and at times encouraged Islamic activists and groups as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the PLO and its dominant faction, Fatah."

whatitwas   December 28th, 2011 - 5:16 am

I like much regarding Paul's rhetoric regarding smaller government and fundamentalist principles. I believe that's where most of his support is based. That's not a bad thing in my opinion. It's an area of agreement more than divisive. I also hear his supporters defending his statements regarding isolationism and insisting that they are taken out of context. If this is so, Paul is the one who needs to remove the misconceptions… and he hasn't done so. Every candidate needs to be clarify their position when there's misunderstandings. Thus, I can't vote for him. _

Kevinezer Scrooge   December 28th, 2011 - 5:20 am

Dumb thing to say given who you're talking about.

hezaAZsmitty   December 28th, 2011 - 5:29 am

Too much exposure is putting hoar frost on the Ron Paul campaign. Just as Newt is having his past thrown at him Paul is now undergoing the same scrutiny. What many fail to take into the equation is the "you fooled us once" factor the American people are remembering. We went through the Media Blitz for Obama complete with all the bells and whistles Hollywood could muster. We've become more jaded, lamestreet says we do not like our candidate roster……….wrong! Any of them are better than the current Charletin occupying the WH. That being said, we want the next President to live up to what they profess is their core beliefs. It is one thing for a change of mind regarding healthcare or social issues, it is quite another when information surfaces that indicates radical beliefs, ie. We shouldn't have fought Hitler……………..that is just wrong on all fronts with no defence possible.

claspur   December 28th, 2011 - 5:30 am

I found Ross Perot more enlightening than this pail of fish guts.

Just went looking for these papers of his…
All I found so-far was a Washington Times article, so-far…

Here's something new that just browsed-at…
http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/why-...

Ron Paul is an easy 'brush-aside' smear.
The only thing that I've ever supported Paul in, is him going after The FED.
With the outcome in the 2012 election, I'm hoping he gets an appointment to do just that.

HuskersLoveBo   December 28th, 2011 - 5:37 am

A heck of a lot better than watching banks needing to borrow 7.77 trillion dollars to stay afloat. Oh, and by the way, how was it watching ol' Georgie borrow nearly one trillion from the RED CHINESE to pay for the Iraq War?

★FALCON★   December 28th, 2011 - 5:39 am

How many abortions has the "most conservative" candidate preformed? Judging him by all of his other words and actions – I'll be surprised if even one kid survived this meglomaniac.

Surely Ron Paul has those statistics somewhere. Let's see 'em.

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 5:40 am

"Ron Paul is not picking sides"

Sure he is.

Against a free, democtic ally in the Middle East.

Kinda makes you wonder.

★FALCON★   December 28th, 2011 - 5:41 am

How are Ron Paul's own bigoted words and newsletters misinformation and spin?

Please expand on that.

tropicgirl   December 28th, 2011 - 5:42 am

Ron Paul simply does his homework… Like it or not, facts are facts and denying the government does anything wrong will NOT help us.

Hamas is part of a larger intelligence operation spawned from the Muslim Brotherhood, long ago compromised by British intelligence and the CIA. Israel “aided Hamas directly — the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization),” Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies, told Richard Sale of the UPI in 2002.

The BBC, in an article published shortly after the 9/11 attacks, stated that bin Laden "received security training from the CIA itself, according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian."

In a 2003 article, Michael Powelson of the Russian journal Demokratizatsiya wrote:
It is likely that the United States knew full-well of bin Laden's operation and gave it all the support they could.

In a 2004 BBC article entitled "Al-Qaeda's origins and links", the BBC wrote:

During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.

In a 2006 InDepth piece on Osama Bin Laden, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation published that…

Bin Laden apparently received training from the CIA, which was backing the Afghan holy warriors – the mujahedeen – who were tying down Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

An article in Der Spiegel, in 2007, entitled "Arming the Middle East", Siegesmund von Ilsemann called Bin Laden "one of the CIA's best weapons customers."

According to author Steve Coll,
At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan.

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, and Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council from 2001–2003,"Throughout the 80s he (Bin Laden) was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan."

Any simple keyword search of the following terms may be helpful in pointing toward a more substantive understanding of the elites who ultimately guide your fortunes: “Iran-Contra” , “Mena”, “BCCI”, “Project Paperclip”, “Michael Aquino”, “Paul Bonacci”, “Operation Northwoods”, “MK-Ultra”. Much of the information on these topics is credible and well-documented. More disturbingly, it highlights behavior committed by the very same elites who are now interpreting the events of 9/11 for you. Read for yourself, and decide, at the end of the day, how much credibility you will continue to accord to those who claim to be the proper trustees of your fate and well-being.

Simply put, they want perpetual war, for profit. To hell with the average Israeli, Arab and Muslim.

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 5:43 am

Actually, you couldn't say that because the US had nothing to do with the founding of the Taliban.

szysgt   December 28th, 2011 - 5:47 am

Not saying I agree necessarily. But some say the US gave money, aid and training to the Mujahideen, many of whom later became Al-Qaeda.

ArchonPrime   December 28th, 2011 - 5:49 am

PONRAUL IS AN ABSOLUTE FOOL.

NO WONDER MIDDLE AMERICA'S DROP-OUT POT-HEADS APPROVE OF HIM.

Centurion37   December 28th, 2011 - 5:54 am

Either you weren't alive or not paying attenton in the 1980s.

iconicfreedomaz   December 28th, 2011 - 5:55 am

How does your question have anything to do with the video posted and the information provided which corroborates Ron Paul’s statement about Hamas?

★FALCON★   December 28th, 2011 - 5:59 am

So you answer a question with a question. Typical of a Ron Paul drone. The question couldn't be answered in a competent clear concise fashion – so you deflect.

Fail. And you earn a thumbs down.

Tyrant   December 28th, 2011 - 6:04 am

Just because you don't like the message doesn't make it any less true.

snakeriver   December 28th, 2011 - 6:06 am

Hamas was created by the Basic principles of Islamic fundamentalism and is an off shoot of The Muslim Brotherhood. It follows the 36 articles of the Hamas Charter adopted in 1986 which are considered locked in stone as are all the Koranic teachings for nearly 1,400 years.

Such a comment by Ron Paul is outrageous, It would be like saying the Moro Islamic Liberation Front was started by the Philippines. There are around 35 major Islamic terrorist organizations all over the world trying to take control of Western and infidel countries because that is what Islam teaches them to do. Most of these Islamist groups routinely threaten not only America but all Western Nations. Is that to say that Western nations started all these terrorist organizations?

Take a look at the approximate 164 jihad alas in the Koran here: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad... Something Ron Paul has clearly failed to do.

Centurion37   December 28th, 2011 - 6:09 am

Why are all the Ron Paul critics so eager to continue funding both sides in these centuries-old religious wars?

Insane "patriotism"?

TexasStomp   December 28th, 2011 - 6:15 am

yep

Like watching Wylie Coyote plot an ambush.

Paul is his only opponent. He just grabbed the baton before the starting gun went off. Don't expect him to hand off to anyone. He's on a roll. Course he's running the wrong direction, but hey, he's makin great time.

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:16 am

I am so sick of this whackjob and his minions…

d106   December 28th, 2011 - 6:16 am

Yeah, right Ron. And the Jews encouraged Hitler and the Nazis. Right? And the Western Democracies encouraged Marxism. And the USA encouraged Pear Harbor and 9-11.

Anyone who supports this moron should have his/her head examined.

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 6:17 am

Arrrgghhhh….maybe if I could read?

My mistake……

But still, the US had no hand in the start of al Queda. See "The Looming Tower" for the true story.

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:17 am

you mean Doctor L. Ron Paul, author of the not-so-best seller "Freakanetics"?

TANSTAAFL   December 28th, 2011 - 6:19 am

Nice collection of lies and nutbaggery you got there.

Maybe if you started taking your meds again?

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:20 am

A$$douche right here!

go away, nutjob, and take Herr Doktor with you.

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:23 am

I see your boy Obama, who you voted for last cycle since we rejected L. Ron Paul, is doing really well for the country.

Don't forget to vote straight "D" ticket this year (again) douchebag.

burns1   December 28th, 2011 - 6:28 am

This should be the crazy man's new theme song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

iconicfreedomaz   December 28th, 2011 - 6:29 am

I’m asking for clarification from you.  I posted information/evidence that his statement in the video is correct, Israel did support Hamas.  I’m happy to discuss your questions, but you’re not acknowledging the information presented before you deflect to another topic.  So, we can try this again or you can leave in an emotional huff.  Is the information in the video congruent with at least one source?

ScarySoetoro   December 28th, 2011 - 6:30 am

Israeli official Avner Cohen said the same thing in the Wall Street Journal:

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric…"

"When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake," says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early '90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. "But at the time nobody thought about the possible results."

Read the rest here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12327557229501184...

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:31 am

The average L. Ron Paul supporter sounds more like an L. Ron Hubbard Scientolgist….they are trying to "convert" people like a religion.

They are scary…and commie liberals undercover…and they hate the JOOOOOOs.

mediazorba   December 28th, 2011 - 6:39 am

I am getting sick of the whiny sounds coming out of his toothless mouth. Shut up and sit down, you old goat.

SaveTheRepublic1791   December 28th, 2011 - 6:46 am

If anyone here hasn't seen One Flew Over the One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest… this is kind of like watching that movie except there isn't a big Indian guy.

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:51 am

There has NEVER been a shortage of STOOPID!

UnCL3   December 28th, 2011 - 6:53 am

just like a Libtard…

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 6:55 am

Not really– he seems to have a problem with Jews and other minorities (which is worse than a Nutcase).

uk6strings   December 28th, 2011 - 6:55 am

Looking at history? What a novel idea!

If anyone actually skimmed through history, you would find that Paul is correct – 100% correct. You don't have to support Paul for president – but at least have the drive to do your own research and not take a blog headline to heart.

In fact, there was a time when Israel funded Hamas (and other Islamic organizations) to combat the PLO (especially the leading Fatah faction, of which Yasser Arafat was head). Israel didn't bet on Hamas becoming a basic replacement for the PLO.

Read the 2009 Wall Street Journal article on the matter: http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB123275...

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 6:57 am

Actually, it was 800 Billion over 10 years… Just a little more than Bamster blew on Porkulus in 1 year, which netted higher unemployment.

How was that "Summer of Recovery" for you?

Father_Everett   December 28th, 2011 - 6:58 am

The numbers have been crunched & it's still down to Romney & Gingrich. Ron 'Heroin' Paul is sinking during each anal exam appointment.

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 7:00 am

Someone needs to ask Paul what he thinks of the Holocaust… my money says he's aligned with the Iranian Akma ImaWackJob.

R_Swift   December 28th, 2011 - 7:02 am

Are you in Hawaii with lil'barry on his 4 million dollar vacation or did he leave you at home again?

LayerDepth   December 28th, 2011 - 7:05 am

I used to give this loon credit for his stance on the Fed and stuff like that. Mind you it is his stance, not his idea. The only original thoughts from this guy are whacked out. Enough! He needs to go away before he helps obama anymore.

A_pen   December 28th, 2011 - 7:05 am

End "blowback" , Hold hearings to define legitimate governments and recognize them as either friend or foe. Stop recognizing every different group. Only national governments can be held responsible for their people. No state? Simple, the area without international political recognition goes up for adoption.

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 7:07 am

I read Allah's book…That convinces me that Paul is an idiot…

alschroeder   December 28th, 2011 - 7:09 am

Well, considering that Obama (whom I presume, despite the following is whom you're talking about) is neither Kenyan born (his father, not him.)—nor Muslim (you might deplore his taste in preachers, but they were Christian preachers)—nor an usurper (won fair and square)….

Consider yourself comfortably in the majority.

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 7:09 am

The thing is, you can play "7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon" with anything.

Perhaps the Soviet invasion had something to do with the creation of Al Quaeda?
Perhaps the $600 Million a year from the Saudis (funneled through Pakistan) had something to do with the creation of Al Quaeda?
Since we buy oil from Saudi… perhaps anyone who owns a car had something to do with the creation of Al Quaeda?
Since we refuse to develop American Oil for decades… perhaps the Democrats had something to do with the creation of Al Quaeda?

On the other hand, The $$$ required to fund Al Quaeda attacks on the US are relatively low (pocket lint by foreign aid standards).

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 7:10 am

Now tell the truth Ken… He doesn't like other minorities either.

Paul al akbar!!!

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 7:11 am

Your session is expired………

"Why he is part and parcel of the GOP clown show"

I don't know, I watch Judge Judy, she never lies and is a swell conservative…A Judy/Sarah combo would be excellent

As far as Dec…My December has been just fine…thank you for your concern…

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 7:13 am

Yes, and the Jews in Germany created the N-a-z-i Party because they were so good at business.

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 7:15 am

Yes…all that stuff is due to Obama and his gang of thieves…That's why he is on his way out…Any of the Republican candidates will try and fix as much damage as they can…

duh_swami   December 28th, 2011 - 7:19 am

Obama's Kenyan grandmother says he was born in kenya and she was there…Should we believe her, or you? In Islam, if you are born a Muslim,(Obama) you are always a Muslim (Obama)…Even if he has abandoned Islam, he acts like a Muslim president would act…

Libtard   December 28th, 2011 - 7:19 am

The thing is Paul has always been a talker– despite his lengthy term in the House, he's never really accomplished anything. No legislation, no coalition, no progress. He might as well have voted "present" like the current Failure in Chief.

If his history is an indicator of his future, giving him free reign to audit the fed may result in… nothing.

mph321   December 28th, 2011 - 7:19 am

Thank you AussieDon! Thank you for having a bran. The people who are commenting on this video do not want to be confused with the facts. They are pesky things

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