ObamaCare: Sebelius Admits Admin Has No Clue How Much ‘High Risk Pools’ Will Cost

"Well we don't know what it will cost."

April 22, 2010 at 9:22 am - Naked Emperor News
Dateline: Washington, DC
Lisa B.   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:43 am

What an idiot. Maybe had we actually read the f*cking bill, we wouldn’t be in this predicament? This is what we get when the stupid people in this country are allowed to vote! This is one reason why one party should NEVER be in control, you have to deal with sh*t like this! Uuuugghhhhh!!!!

Tool   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:44 am

As a former marxist, I can confirm that Sebelius and the rest of the ObamAlinskys are clueless because they are economic flat-earthers who are deniers of the law of supply and demand. My Public Tenant-trash sources (Bertha Lewis) tells me they lied about all the costs just to get it passed.

My Journo-trash sources tell me that censorship of the following economic realities has also occurred at the highest levels of the MSM: Pushing 30 million new people into the health care system will vastly increase demand but without any new supply of services or competition, it will result in vastly higher costs anyway — even without the fake numbers already given.

bitterweed   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:44 am

SHE’S KIDDING..OBAMA AND HIS GANG KNOW EVERYTHING..THEY TOLD US SO..

FastFacts   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:45 am

Of course not, they tried to push through this bill before they knew what was in it.

Such as: (reported by http://www.americanparchment.com)
1) the dissolving of the Congressional Health care, of course they didn’t want this to happen;
2)the fact that kids would not be covered right away, that is what they spoke on so either they never really wanted it or they are idiots that never read the bill like they claimed;
etc.

There were a good amount of things they found out late.

3) Just like the cost for a high risk pool, they didn’t take the time needed.
4) And they did not listen that the premiums would all be going up so now they are trying to pass premium caps. This will most definitely turn into a single payer system if we don’t stop it.

ALL THINGS THEY DIDN’T TAKE THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT… THANKS PELOSI, “PASS IT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IN IT”

kong   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:49 am

Tool — you got that right love it –

–They are “Economic Flat-Earthers” and “Deniers of laws of Supply and Demand”. I would also add “Bitter Clingers” to the superstition of Utopian mysticism.

Subsalior   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:52 am

Another lyin’ Bi-otch working for Barry & Co…..

Tom   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:54 am

I lived in Santa Fe for a year while on assignment at LANL. In that time the number of illegals crowding emergency rooms got so bad that one major hospital emergency room staff shut down operations a weekend (March 2008). When and if: (1) if this obamacare bill final takes root and (2) the gates of heaven open up without border guards folks in Texas, New Mexico and California will have to schedule their doctors far in advance. Every freeloader fom Eagle Pass to Tierra del Fuego will be their ahead of you….and YOU will get ot pay for it.

hAndyman   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:55 am

SO whats the big deal!? You just tax the rich people in America a little more. We all know they have it, right. All those RICH people making over 250G a yr. Not you and me thow, no not US! Just”THEM”! YEAH RIGHT! If the progs. get to pass any more of their “HOPE & CHANGE” We are all soooo screwed, that by the time the left wake up we will look like Greese..

bo peep   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:58 am

They had a year to figure out what was in this thing – they are really learners or really slow readers, or both. This does not look good for democrats wanting to lead the charge on any “education reform”.

Speaking of which — Lets give a shout out to GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE leading the courageous battle in New Jersey for fiscal sanity. He’s unbelievable! He’s cutting spending and fighting teacher unions and government employee unions in a knock down brawl – that is our future if we want one.
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LizardLips   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:02 am

Can you spell D-E-A-T-H P-A-N-E-L?

dennisl59   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:06 am

I am completely, totally and utterly SHOCKED that the Secretary of Health and Human Services wouldn’t know this information. She was nominated by the President and confirmed by the US Senate.

On the other hand, she is lying bootlicker and stooge of the Apostate Muslim Marxist Dictator Hussein and his Lieutenants Reid and Pelosi.

Finally, I would like to tell all the voters that elected this American Economic Wrecking Ball that I despise everyone of you and any one you know who did. (Middle Finger).

RAS   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:06 am

What a scary bunch of idiots in this administration. It will take years,if not decades to clean up the “mess” this administration is making…. It all starts with the vote in Nov…..

Small buisness owner   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:22 am

Fire all libtards, and and tell them Obummers economic stupidiity is the reason their job was cut.

NOQTR4TR8RS   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:36 am

Before deciding whether or not to believe the seditionist Democrats when they say they’ve accurately predicted the cost of the health care reform legislation, let’s consider the track record of government on similar programs in the past. Note that the “actual cost” figure is NOT adjusted for inflation:

1. In 1965, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the hospital insurance program of Medicare – the federal health care program for the elderly and disabled – would cost $9 billion by 1990. The actual cost that year was $67 billion.
Cost overrun: 744 percent.

2. In 1967, the House Ways and Means Committee said the entire Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. The actual cost in 1990 was $98 billion.
Cost overrun: 817 percent.

3. In 1987, Congress projected that Medicaid – the joint federal-state health care program for the poor – would make special relief payments to hospitals of less than $1 billion in 1992. Actual cost: $17 billion.
Cost overrun: 1,700 percent.

4. The 1993 cost of Medicare’s home care benefit was projected in 1988 to be $4 billion, but ended up at $10 billion.
Cost overrun: 250 percent.

5. The State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which was created in 1997 and projected to cost $5 billion per year, has had to be supplemented with hundreds of millions of dollars annually by Congress.

6. The Bush administration promised us that Iraqi oil money would be used to fund their own “liberation”. To date, we’ve spent $985 Billion of our and our posterity’s money, and it continues under the Obama administration.
Oil revenue received from Iraq: $0.

7. Romney Care, Massachusetts version of Democrat Care, was signed into law in 2006, with full funding included in the legislation. In 2007, the program already faced a $151 million cost overrun, and Massachusetts is now the number ranked one state in terms of state debt.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/03/19/more_cuts_loom_as_state_faces_295m_in_red_ink/

So, when Sebelius says, “well, we don’t know what it will cost”, she’s actually telling the truth. But, if history is any indication, the actual cost will be many times greater than what was predicted by the “experts”.

chicagomatt   April 22nd, 2010 - 10:48 am

name 3 honest people in the Obama administration.

ok…how about two?

one?

MN   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:04 am

They have very little idea of the true impact Obamacare will have on our economy or the concept of personal responsibility!

Two humorous cartoons on the deception behind the costs at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/a-whale-of-a-tale/ and http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fuzzy-math/

Wanda   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:25 am

I think they should have figured that out befor passing this crappy bill, just goes to show you that it is all about a money grab.

Maine Coast   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:26 am

Thanks to all the idiot zombies that voted for this unbelievable mess and didn’t do their homework. The facts were all out there for everyone to see. If you have voter’s remorse, CHANGE WHAT YOU READ AND WHO YOU WATCH FOR NEWS. THAT would be the CHANGE we could all use.

dont bother - they're there on the Hill   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:29 am

you shameful bunch didnt bring this to the public’s attention while you were pushing this nonsense now did ya. now you are all looking like clowns, literally.

well, er...   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:30 am

maybe YOU dont know what it will cost. We do. it will cost you your jobs!

here we go again   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:32 am

dennisl59 April 22nd, 2010 – 10:06 am
I am completely, totally and utterly SHOCKED that the Secretary of Health and Human Services wouldn’t know this information. She was nominated by the President and confirmed by the US Senate.
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actually? therein your last sentence lays your answer. :-)
they really are a bunch of clowns, are’nt they?

YouFOOLEDmeOnce   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:35 am

your honor i think this makes our case for why something as huge as healthcare should never have been on a deadline nor should it have been considered without being read and fully understood. Furthermore, the mere size of the suicide note was itself evidence of raw intentional deception. we rest our case.

so u did it for obama, huh? well look at you now   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:37 am

obama is causing a bunch of people to end their careers and not before being exposed as lightweights, another liability for future job placement.

FUMIGATENOW   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:40 am

OF course they don’t. NOBODY does!

Gary   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:42 am

Welcome to the United States of Morons!

melli50   April 22nd, 2010 - 12:04 pm

Welcome to Marxism!

dont bother - they're there on the Hill   April 22nd, 2010 - 12:10 pm

Financial Times: U.S. Debt to Hit $20 Trillion in 10 Years
The financial outlook for the United States is frightening if something isn’t done to rein in the deficit. The Congressional Budget Office projects the size of the federal debt to increase by nearly 250 percent over 10 years, from $7.5 trillion to a whopping $20 trillion.
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another problem you “smart” people cant fix, huh?
not only cant you come up with ideas to fix it you think spending is the way to fix it. what clowns! bet you all have on size 20’s yellow rubber shoes on your feet?

stop defending the wrongdoers   April 22nd, 2010 - 12:13 pm

FUMIGATENOW April 22nd, 2010 – 11:40 am
OF course they don’t. NOBODY does!
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yeah, right.
who’s job do you think it is to know that?

Mick Russom   April 22nd, 2010 - 12:32 pm

This moron traitor cow made the biggest mistake in US history leading to our bankruptcy and she is mum about how its all going to go down.

Traitor cow Sebelius will one day be jailed for this criminal negligence.

If you support Obama and his Regime, you support a Statist authoritarian who is an empty suit who speaks in platitudes who is beholden to the oligarchical collectivists and banking cabals. You are against freedom, liberty and our constitutional republic and the notion that all of our rights are inborn and are given by our creator. Some autocrat in Washington does not grant rights – the constitution simply enumerates them for added protection. The constitution also limits the Powers of the Federal Government yet an expansionist authoritarian view is used in modern times contrary to what Madison had intended. If you support Obama you support the biggest threat to our free will in our history, and when the last bastion of freedom in the USA falls, there is nowhere else to go.

O'Really?   April 22nd, 2010 - 12:51 pm

I notice that Breitbart has a lot of time and space for such stories as the $100 bill looking “European”, Ann Coulter being mocked, Jon Stewart and Bernie/FOX feuding, and the like, but no time for a story like this. I wonder why. I guess this doesn’t fit into your political agenda, does it, Andrew?

By Murray Waas Murray Waas
“LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – One after another, shortly after a diagnosis of breast cancer, each of the women learned that her health insurance had been canceled. First there was Yenny Hsu, who lived and worked in Los Angeles. Later, Robin Beaton, a registered nurse from Texas. And then, most recently, there was Patricia Relling, a successful art gallery owner and interior designer from Louisville, Kentucky.
None of the women knew about the others. But besides their similar narratives, they had something else in common: Their health insurance carriers were subsidiaries of WellPoint, which has 33.7 million policyholders — more than any other health insurance company in the United States.
The women all paid their premiums on time. Before they fell ill, none had any problems with their insurance. Initially, they believed their policies had been canceled by mistake.
They had no idea that WellPoint was using a computer algorithm that automatically targeted them and every other policyholder recently diagnosed with breast cancer. The software triggered an immediate fraud investigation, as the company searched for some pretext to drop their policies, according to government regulators and investigators.
Once the women were singled out, they say, the insurer then canceled their policies based on either erroneous or flimsy information. WellPoint declined to comment on the women’s specific cases without a signed waiver from them, citing privacy laws”.

This is why we need health care reform. And if you right wing, “keep your gob’ment hands off of my health insurance” dopes can’t see that this could very easily be you or a member of your family, you are truly deluded. These companies have one objective and that is to make money off of your health. If you are sick, then you are a liability.

temple62   April 22nd, 2010 - 1:18 pm

“The light is on but no one is home” is her brain. She is a “liberal’s delight” get dressed, fix the hair, put the jewelry on and spend your days either lying the administration’s line or pretending to answer questions. And guess who pays for this disgusting person and performance each day?

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   April 22nd, 2010 - 1:20 pm

America…this puppet of the Bilderberg…Obama the Bush and his Democratzi ‘loons’…have no clue about how ‘real’ America feels about what they are doing!

But they will come November!

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AMERICA…REMEMBER THE VOTE…

COME NOVEMBER WE WILL BE SERVING UP ‘LAME DUCK’ FOR THANKSGIVING…AND WHAT A DAY OF THANKSGIVING THAT WILL BE!
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IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!

txmike   April 22nd, 2010 - 1:32 pm

They do not care about costs when there is taxpayer money to waste.

NOBAMA   April 22nd, 2010 - 1:42 pm

I don’t even know what to write without being flamed. I voted against Obama even though he had actually won just to say I didn’t vote for him. The first time I heard his name “Obama”.. I’m like wow really? We’re voting for Osama’s bother? Then I heard his middle name – Hussien. Don’t make me laugh now, but didn’t we just rid the world of this man once before? Now he’s back, great job for voting him America, now look at your star.

Webster   April 22nd, 2010 - 1:51 pm

The costs will be astronomical. It is a given.

Mr. Right   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:06 pm

On her statement just omit ” how much high risk pools will cost”. Someone should tell her a high risk pool is not one with a diving board.

Don't let the door hit you in the asx   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:22 pm

To Post OReally…

Suggest you leave the USA. Note: there are many very “nice” Socialist, Communist and Fascist Systems you can select from to move to. You see, you and those like you, have not right to force your “transformational changes” upon the other 250++M legal tax paying US Citizen’s that prefer to return to the Constitutional Republic our elder’s formed and built.

Just leave. WE “really” do not need you here.

AZsmitty, Arizona   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:25 pm

What do you expect? The Democrats are on display, no filters in place thanks to the new media. We can research many locations to unravel the spin being applied to how wonderful their programs are. They can no longer expect the MSM to give cover to their actions for they too are under scrutiny for their incompetence. They have accomplished more that they anticipated, in the words of Admiral Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor…..all we have accomplished it to awaken a sleeping giant. The Democrat Party and their accomplises in the mainstream media are in for a very rude awakening. When the House and Senate change majority status after November and the President is limited by being a lame-duck and the reality of being a one term President.

O'Really?   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:42 pm

Nobama,
I really don’t know how to argue with someone who is so stupid that they would judge a person by their name. I guess you don’t use Adolph’s Meat Tenderizer, either.

Not Kennedy   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:49 pm

How about replacing Sebelius with Bertha? Bertha Lewis is a demonstrated authority on social redistribution programs, operates within her budget and knows exactly what to say, when to say it and to whom. Besides, with Bertha’s management acumen, ObamaCare will go right where it was intended to go. Instead of ACORN, the new agency can be called Cracked Corn and they can throw out whatever chikkin feed Rev. Wright’s chickens want when they come home to roost.

Without ACORN trying to extort banks and anyone who was an easy touch, maybe lenders can get back in the business of lending and even collecting on the loans. Geithner can have his own Chicago based loan enforcement agency, somewhat akin to his proposed IRS penalty for not participating in a mandatory plan. See, simple. Instead of looking to Wharton, hire a Warthog and see what you can accomplish.

O'Really?   April 22nd, 2010 - 2:49 pm

Don’t let the door…,
So you are OK with an insurance company concocting up a bunch of crap so that they can drop someone who is sick from their lists in order to maximize a profit?

Suggest that YOU leave the USA. WE certainly don’t need creeps like you here. Are you a health company CEO or just jaded?

midwest milly   April 22nd, 2010 - 5:01 pm

she’s a sorry POS that brought her bag of carpet out to kansas from ohio decades ago to help with the destruction.

follow the democrats — down the road to surfdom!

midwest milly   April 22nd, 2010 - 5:09 pm

sorry, i got windserfing on my mind – err, waterboarding

jim   April 22nd, 2010 - 9:26 pm

About the same level of accuracy that the Bush administration had for the Iraq war.

poetopoet   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:03 pm

This poor excuse for a woman is despicable. She favors late term abortion, like nine months late. I wonder where she gets off, hell I hope!

jim   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:30 pm

poetopoet – too bad your mother didn’t abort you – your a waste of fresh air.

fry   April 22nd, 2010 - 11:41 pm

@ O’Really? Why are you so sure that the government (which is full of bureaucracy) would be anymore honest and correct than the company? There is a lot more people in the government (specifically that either are in charge or part of the health care system) that affect the the actual carrying out of the bill. If we assume there is a certain number of corrupt people in america doesn’t it make sense that the more people affecting the health care system the more likely the same thing will happen. I agree with you that private health care is not perfect and DEFINITELY is not adequate for the US population but IT is the lesser of two evils. Especially considering the lack of attention to detail that seems to characterize the senate and congress. But I too agree that people should voice legitimate reasons for why they dislike or like someone. Not just because their name sounds like Osama.

O'Really?   April 23rd, 2010 - 10:36 am

Fry,
I am also not comfortable with the government totally taking over health care. But the private sector has clearly demonstrated repeatedly that they are not capable of do so, either. The idea that you can construct a thriving business around the health of individuals is flawed since you have to exclude those who need health care the most (the sick) to turn a profit. In short, what we have is no good and where we are going may be too far. It’s unfortunate that Republicans did not take on this issue earlier when they had a chance and come up with some sort of intermediate solution. But the Devil is in the details and perhaps compromises and reforms can still be reached.

still sane   April 23rd, 2010 - 10:48 am

another clip we won’t see on msnbc

Don't Drink the Cool Aid   April 24th, 2010 - 2:17 pm

For once I agree with Nancy Pelosi; they had to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. Pathetic.

Ma Aslanian   April 26th, 2010 - 11:06 am

I always enjoy reading intelligent articles by an author who is definately up to snuff on their chosen subject. I’ll be following this thread with great interest. Keep up the great work, till next time

kay   April 28th, 2010 - 10:54 am

Guess what……Obama tactic……don’t tell the public…until the time comes to see their bill.

“Open it (your envelope) to see what is in it.” Says Piglotsi. Surprise!! Surprise!! Now pay your bill before you are charged for delinquent payment.

These commies are your tax dollars at work. How’s your “HOPEY… CHANGEY THING WORKING FOR YOU?????

Waffen SS   April 30th, 2010 - 8:12 am

This idiot was clueless when governor and she’s even MORE clueless NOW much like O’Really but denser… morons!

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