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So does this mean he “trying” to tell the truth?
My lie-o-meter got to 14 by the end of the speech.. That number definitely threw me though… I was expecting 47 mil and when I heard 30mil I wasn’t sure how to tally it!
Numbers…just numbers!
Words…just words!
Nothing means anything when Bilderberg Bush-Obama speaks…which he continually does because it is all lies…spins and lies!
I hope this is the last prime time speech TV will allow him. He has already gone over his quota of speeches for 8 months!
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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!
1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED
DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES…BUT WE WON’T BE STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!
Yes, but they are going to “legalize” the invader-colonists first, and THEN give them free medical and social security. That’s their evil plan to complete the task begun by George W. Bush — to BANKRUPT America.
I see that rather than acknowledging that there are 30 MILLION AMERICAN’s without health insurance, you would rather continue to rage on about nonsensical stuff????
Who cares about all these Americans that have no health care??? I got mine, you get yours!!! And yes that means you, you little 3 year old begger….. Get out of my sight, your out of the womb go get a job and shut up I don’t owe you anything!
We are the only wealthy nation on earth that is good to the poorest and most disadvantaged among us. This plan is nothing more than a grab at tax revenue and power. They just want to feed the beast.
Not since Bill Clinton and the stained blue dress have we had a “president” so truthally challenged.
Unlike Clinton, who always knew when he was looking you in the face and outright lying to you, Obama often believes what he’s saying is true, despite the fact it’s 100% different than what he said yesterday.
This is why he can stand before you, and with great sincerity say that the videos and audios recording are WRONG, and HE is right. It’s all a right wing smear campaign.
“kadams September 9th, 2009 – 11:16 pm
We are the only wealthy nation on earth that is good to the poorest and most disadvantaged among us. This plan is nothing more than a grab at tax revenue and power. They just want to feed the beast.”
WRONG!!!!
Have you ever been to another country??? I have!!!! Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, UK, Korea
Don’t forget, he campaigned in 57 states!
LOL :O)
No wonder he’s hiding his college info as well as his LONG FORM BC.
Hey man I was born in East LA? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2K-_2AHYh0
Hey, dimwitted dweeb Brad, there are easily that many democrats biitching about lack of coverage for others.
So, dear Brad, gross hypocrite, dig deep into your own wallet and go buy one person health care insurance.
I bet you really don’t care that much now do you, if it is coming from your own pocket.
SO go ahead god damn it, Pay for another persons need. You care, right, arse? Then pay up and prove
that you care. Then get your other god damned liberal friends and have them do the same thing.
Just pay for one extra person per year. PROBLEM SOLVED and nobody is forced. Nobody loses their
freedoms and some piissant little liar like Brad can be happy that he put his money where his mouth is.
BTW, bet he dont. Bet he is an obnoxious troll that wants somebody else to foot the bill.
Brad, up yours.
Sorry for that last post. I was trying to be sarcastic and I just made a stupid fool of myself. My wife is so embarrassed by me at parties when I tell the joke of the little crippled child that I make mow my lawn and then refuse to pay him. Hahahahaha… I think that is hilarious, but my wife just shakes her head. Go figure. Anyway, I actually support Obama and his Marxist ambitions for the country, but I thought I’d be kind of funny and play like I was a mean, over the top conservative when actually I know that conservatives out spend liberals 50 to 1 on charitable contributions and real help for the poor. Liberals just play like they help by forming “coalitions” and stuff, but we really just do that to line our pockets with other peoples tax dollars. Sorry for being a stupid putz.
Brad, ANY of those 30 or 47 million can get FREE care at ANY ER, by LAW!!!
BY LAW BRAD, ALL ER’s HAVE TO TAKE ANY AND ALL INDIGENTS!
NO ONE IS WITHOUT HEALTH CARE!
But, the government covers the indigents costs.
Why yes Brad they do, don’t they?
So, the GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY COVERING THESE 30 or 47 million!
And they want to add 250 million to the dole!
CAN YOU SPELL ‘TAX AND CONTROL’ BRAD?
“Craig Allen September 9th, 2009 – 11:33 pm ”
That’s not HEALTH CARE….. That’s EMERGENCY CARE! And we are already paying for them, so is that not already “socialized” medicine, when I have to pay an EXTRA $1000 dollars a year for these people in my premiums?
Boy you Republicans are about as bright as a blown light bulb!
To Chris September 9th, 2009 – 11:02 pm
My lie-o-meter got to 14 by the end of the speech.. That number definitely threw me though… I was expecting 47 mil and when I heard 30mil I wasn’t sure how to tally it!
Still a LIE! No more than about 12-14 million TOPS!!!
BRAD THE BRAIN-LESS I’M NOT A REPUBLICAN, AND ER’S DO NOT TRIAGE!
ALL HEALTH NEEDS ARE MET!
YA DOLT!
“Craig Allen September 9th, 2009 – 11:45 pm ”
“I’M NOT A REPUBLICAN”
RIIIGGGHHHHTTT!!!! And the sky is blue!!!
Hey “DOLT”…… Tell me how that 3 year old who is sick is suppose to pay for his service??? You Republicans love to fight for the womb, but then kick the child to the curb after birth….
You IDIOTS act like your not paying for the service at all! Your the DOLT who thinks that the EXTRA $1000 a year you have to pay in premiums is just because of your love for the insurance companies.
Boy….. Talk about being beaten with the STUPID STICK!
lmao Go Brad, Go!!! It’s not enough to prove yourself utterly stupid in one thread alone, by all means spam the boards with it.
they will go back in when he tries give illegals amnesty. Viva la Raza– they are his 2nd largest group of supporters– he is not going to turn his back on them. I hope his plan fails– hmmm isn’t that what Mr. Limbaugh hoped for , also. Wish we could all march on Washington on the 12th—the August recess might be over but the schooling is just beginning.
Wrong word choice, they do triage, the hangnail waits longer than the gunshot victim. But they all get seen.
Brad, Bush and Bammy are both dogs with fleas, the fleas are somewhat different, but they are fleas nonetheless!
I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN, EVEN IF YOU CAN’T COUNT PAST TWO, BRAD!
“Sundowner September 9th, 2009 – 11:50 pm
lmao Go Brad, Go!!! It’s not enough to prove yourself utterly stupid in one thread alone, by all means spam the boards with it.”
Once again….. The Right PROVES that they have no ability to think or debate INTELLIGENTLY. Notice how when FACTS are brought up……
Your momma’s calling, time to change your diaper….
Perhaps he was laughing at this comment you made Brad, “RIIIGGGHHHHTTT!!!! And the sky is blue!!!”
What color is the sky Brad?
Oooo I love it when the left starts to eat their own…I will leave you with words from Camille, Bradley. Really nice comeback by the way, I was so disheartened after reading those stinging words. Excuse me while I go find you a doctor under Obamacare to treat that liberal dimentia…
“Craig Allen September 9th, 2009 – 11:59 pm
Wrong word choice, they do triage, the hangnail waits longer than the gunshot victim. But they all get seen.”
And we all still pay for them! So REGARDLESS either with the government or through HIGHER PREMIUMS we are still paying for them. STILL SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!!
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“Brad, Bush and Bammy are both dogs with fleas, the fleas are somewhat different, but they are fleas nonetheless!”
Yes, but Obama is the LESSER of the two evils….. Bush was all about killing, Obama is about actually doing something for the American people.
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“I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN, EVEN IF YOU CAN’T COUNT PAST TWO, BRAD!”
Laughable……. I probably have a higher education than you, and probably make much more money as well…… Your such a hoot!
Brads your daughter’s calling, time to change your diaper and take the pacifier outta’ ur rear! LOL!!! Azzclown…..
Ok now for a serious post enough Cheech & Chong. They need to follow the law like everyone else. I bet Immigrants won’t have to pay the $3000 fine.
“Craig Allen September 10th, 2009 – 12:03 am
Perhaps he was laughing at this comment you made Brad, “RIIIGGGHHHHTTT!!!! And the sky is blue!!!”
What color is the sky Brad?”
That was a joke, since you people turn black to white and up to down……
The numbers were changed so he wouldn’t have to explain the extra people(illegals). He’s very good at creative math. Remember….he’s a community organizer which is a lot like a motivational speaker. Just get the crowd on your side. Say or be whatever is necessary to make them happy. He’s done this from the start. All his numbers and facts change depending on the audience and needed results. We had a taste of this when he was campaigning. He claimed how many places as home? He simply mirrors the crowd he’s talking to. The problem now is the crowd is very divided so he can’t win the room.
The way they beat the 47 million drum I was surprised he AXED 17 million from the total. Did Obama AX Pelosi if he could do this?
kmichaels,
If you can’t be a Christian, then at least try to be a man.
He’s knocking off the illegals, but still how is the health care industry going to suddenly care for thirty million more. Maybe those 17 million illegals are doctors, nurses, hospital execs, and administrators… Read Is Obama A Snkae Oil Salesman…at…http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/
More of the I voted for it before I voted against it crap. See EVERYONE in DC on Saturday. And kudos to Congressman Joe Wilson. Highly recommend all view this link to get a better understanding of what the Fed has done to our money and banking. http://mises.org/multimedia/video/Fed.wmv
Until we return to the gold standard, we will never have a stable economy or control of the politicians giveaway of our treasure.
Maybe that is why we didn’t see his grades? The man is a sham. He is a puppet of who? who pulls those strings? where is all the money going ? who caused all that crap last year ? Who has invested a fortune to get this man to power – He has never held a real job. That piece of the puzzle – will unravel the whole thing.
Historically the key to bring industry cost down is simple just, infuse a bunch of illegal aliens into the work force— that will bring salaries down for sure. Heck I am sure that some from the South will be more than willing to accommodate President Obama.
Many illegal’s get medicaid with stolen ID. As for their visits to the ER, what makes you think it is only for serious illness? Go to any ER where IA’s go, and you will see they go for everything from a scratch to the sniffles. The delivery of their babies alone (which are coming like rabbits) has cost taxpayers billions.
In California alone, more than 85 hospitals and trauma centers have been FORCED into bankruptcy taking care of IA’s. And that is happening in many areas that have the IA’s.
Obama’s speech tonight was nothing but “distortions” and “lies.” I will not watch anymore TV if his face is on it…..makes me want to puke…..seeing OR hearing him.
Obama lied and Healthcare died.
Run that up the flagpole and see who salutes.
I think it’s laughable that everyone’s acting like we don’t do anything for poor people!! I live in very liberal, very crowded LA. People are paid to do NOTHING and get more for every baby they have and this problem is rampant. There are also free clinics all over the place for the poor. And food stamps. Lines at the grocery store are full of full carts of food and everyone’s fat and YOU’RE paying for it. And guess what? WE ARE BROKE. We can’t sustain ourselves any longer. So let’s spend a trillion dollars on healthcare now! Re-reading my above statements, I realize that what I said might be thought of as racist. But they’re NOT. I don’t hate people who are a different race than me, I’m just stating a fact. We’re broke and it’s because we’re trying to do everything for everybody.
Brad,
You are factually incorrect. There are not 30 million that have no insurance( that was todays number) but the true number is closer to
14 million un insured.
And actually if you want to be really precise about the numbers a little over 7 million of those people are here illegally and don’t pay taxes or pay into the
Social Security System.
obama didn’t nix anything. it was a TOTUS typo.
We know someone who has $100,000 in the bank, has home and car, etc., all paid off, has minimal expenses, and has NO medical care. That person is in fairly decent health, but WHINES about not having health care and voted for Mr. O., in hopes of getting FREE health care. That same person b*tches about “freeloaders” on Social Security and Medicare!
CAN LIBERALS EVER SEE THE HYPOCRISY OF THEIR ATTITUDES????
We know someone who has $100,000 in the bank, has home and car, etc., all paid off, has minimal expenses, and has NO medical care. That person is in fairly decent health, but WHINES about not having health care and voted for Mr. O., in hopes of getting FREE health care. That same person b*+ches about “freeloaders” on Social Security and Medicare!
CAN LIBERALS EVER SEE THE HYPOCRISY OF THEIR ATTITUDES????
Brad,
Lets see. Where have I been:
Italy, Canada, England, France, Mexico, Taiwan, China, Japan, Egypt, Indonesia, Korea, Turkey, Columbia, etc..
We are the best to our poor! Yes, there are people without medical insurance… But, there are not people dying in the streets because they can not get medical
care or treatment….. I have seen that in other countries but never here in the US.
Obama kinda stunned everyone last night with his proclamtion about no coverage for illegals,and my first thought was well ok whats the catch.Since he will tackle immigration reform next which is a translation for amnesty everyone will then be citizens.In his speech he offered tax credits (welfare) to those who cant afford it.This guy gives me doouche chills.
When they get down to about 20 Million uninsured, I’ll start listening…
When Obama lied, he needed to be called on it. Obama had a platform for millions, no opposition will have nearly that and everyone that was listening needed to know he was lying. This “illegal Immigrant” ‘myth’ has been proven time and time again (FactCheck.org).
The problem is that Obama lied again and overall did not change one thing. Here is what I am talking about, 1) Obama has still not written a bill, neither of the written bills sound like ‘his,’ and if they don’t pull them off the table and instead try to pass them, there was no change. All he did was take the old bills, mix them up and sold them back to the public, will they buy, I don’t think so. Oh then he gave the fig leaf of Tort Reform, the Democrats didn’t like that one bit. But he didn’t say they were implementing Tort Reform he said they would look into it… LIAR. Time will only tell. He sounded great in the beginning and I thought, “He is doing this do gain back the 50% that don’t approve of what he is doing. I am sorry by the end, being already to long, he went back to his old ways and people saw right through that. I watched this on the TV and monitored the blogs and news sources, it was quite interesting. Here is one that had them most complete coverage I think: http://www.americanparchment.com/archive/2009/sep/sep_9_2009.html.
After checking that, check out the front page, http://www.americanparchment.com, there are some scary things about Obama’s Diversity czar, what the heck is “Media Justice” and a post office like media?
30 million = 10% of the population (US population 300 million). Why are we discussing an overhaul of the system?
Just take some of that TARP money and pay for those damned people’s insurance and leave the rest of us the hell alone, you fool Obama!
Obama lies, people will die…in a line for rationed care!
Yeah, like the Government needs to take over another aspect of the US population home life. Have you ever tried to contact ANY Government office? It is a tedious and time consuming endeavor. The hospital’s ERs are slow as it is. Add the Government factor and presto, an instant DMV clone.
Hi did tell the truth about something……
“But what we have also seen in these last months is the same partisan spectacle that only hardens the disdain many Americans have toward their own government. Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics. Some have dug into unyielding ideological camps that offer no hope of compromise. Too many have used this as an opportunity to score short-term political points, even if it robs the country of our opportunity to solve a long-term challenge. And out of this blizzard of charges and counter-charges, confusion has reigned.”
47 million, 57 states, it’s just fuzzy logic to him.
Another example of using whatever number, fact or fictional data needed to dupe the public. Nice try Obama. We don’t buy any of it!
….creative accounting…….he/they learned it from their bankster friends…..
Could it be that it will be illegal to ask anyone for proof of citizenship, before giving them health care?
Or, maybe it’s because they will pass a bill giving illegals, “legal” status for health insurance, in 12-24 hours after applying for health care coverage.
Obama lies … America dies.
Let’s see what another American president once said about government.
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
“I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.”
“I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.”
And even though he died 200 years ago, Thomas Jefferson had a far better grip on reality, and the principles upon this REPUBLIC was founded, than 100 Nobamas.
*****YOU LIE!***LIAR!!!****AMERICA SCREAMED!!!
IMPEACH THE KENYAN!!! IS THE CRY OF THE LAND!!!
Here is his real Kenyan Birth Certificate, proof Obama was born in Kenya
http://freedomtalk.lefora.com/2009/09/07/here-is-the-original-obamas-kenyan-birth-certifica/page1/
I find it sad that so many people can get excited about such a minor issue, 47 or 30! Really, is it a lesser crime if you kill someone with a 22 than a 457? Let the debate begin! lol
When the Congressman spoke up last night and called Nobama a liar, did anyone else immediately flash back to the first time you read The Emperor’s New Clothes?
The good Congressman should have yelled, “You have no clothes!”
So in others words, the reich-wing rethugs think that if you find an error you shouldn’t correct it? I’m not sure what the whining is about.
Maybe instead he should just leave the error in and later claim “mistakes were made.” The rethugs certainly understand that better.
Hey, tom, dumbarse,
the issue is lying, the numbers are used to prove it,
dimwitted troll.
I like to post stupid things because I am stupid.
[...] with the exception of a Fox News commentator Frank Luntz on the FNC’s Sept 9 “Hannity” and ABC News White House correspondent Jake Tapper, who pointed it out on the social media Web site [...]
Can I ask something….does it really matter what the real number is? Can the president delcare amnesty for illegal aliens and get them free insurance anyway?
When Representative Joe Wilson (R-SC) yelled out that President Obama was a “liar” in the middle of Obama’s nationally televised address to a joint session of Congress, he became the poster child for the new Republican Party.
I definitely mean poster “child.” Since President Obama took office, the language of the Republican Party has become more childish and irresponsible by the day.
President Obama’s powerful speech to the nation last night could not have contrasted more sharply. He was the adult in the room, calling on Congress to take responsibility for our future — for stepping up to solve the health care crisis that worsens every day, for making the changes necessary to allow America to live up to its own democratic values — to acknowledge that no one should be denied the health care he needs because he can’t afford it.
By contrast, the Republicans have careened into schoolyard name-calling; Obama the Nazi, Obama the “Joker” from Batman.
They have begun to act like a gang of juvenile delinquents, doing everything they can to frighten senior citizens — attempting to convince them that health care reform would jeopardize their Medicare and that the Government would set up “death panels” with the power to pull the plug on Grandma, when both were patently untrue.
There has been a brazen, bullying quality to their rhetoric — shouting down and intimidating opponents — a willingness to break the rules and say anything that serves their purposes with a complete disregard for consistency or intellectual honesty. Take their “defense” of Medicare: Remember that the Republicans opposed Medicare from its inception. They said that Medicare would lead to “socialism” the same way they claim that health insurance reform and a public option will lead to “socialism” today. As recently as yesterday some Republicans proposed eliminating Medicare and replacing it with a privatized “voucher” system. Yet they have the gall to pretend to defend it against the Democrats who created it.
And then there has been the irresponsibility of encouraging — and legitimating — gun-toting, hate-filled rhetoric by the fringiest of the right wing. The Republican leadership has failed to censure people like the pastor in Arizona who says he prays the President will die. And it has encouraged delusional conspiracy theorists who believe — contrary to all evidence — that Obama was not born in the United States.
As children grow up, one of the measures of increasing maturity is their willingness to begin focusing on the long term — on saving for the future — on getting a good education — on the long-term welfare of their family. Instead of throwing a tantrum because they want an ice cream cone now, they start savings their nickels and dimes for the bicycle they want to save up to buy in the future.
But you won’t find the Republicans dealing with the affects of global warming on the next generation, or reforming the health care system so it won’t devour our economy in the future, or regulating investment markets to prevent reckless investors from wrecking the economy in the years ahead. No, instead of the needs of the next generation, the Republicans want to squander our treasure on short-term tax cuts for millionaires, and short-term profits for large corporations.
Republicans used to have a reputation of staid “conservatism” like they were your stingy old rock-ribbed grandfather. Today’s Republican leaders behave like a bunch of teenagers who got their inheritance too early and can’t find enough ways to indulge their short-term desire for “more.” They no longer reflect the values of middle class families. They reflect the values of reckless, “go go” Wall Street speculators who think anyone who isn’t rich like them is a “chump” and that the purpose of our society is to let them indulge their own self-centered, jet-set fantasies.
Most childish has been their practical refusal to admit that they lost the election and that Barack Obama is actually the President of the United States. Their recent attack on the President’s speech to schoolchildren that aimed to inspire them to work hard and stay in school may be the clearest example. Whether the Right likes it or not, Barack Obama is the leader of our nation. Questioning the appropriateness of his addressing the nation’s children with an uplifting message is the political equivalent of a child closing his eyes, holding his ears and humming so he doesn’t have to acknowledge that it’s time to go to bed. Sorry, Barack Obama won the election, temper tantrums won’t change it.
Last night Joe Wilson etched his political legacy into the wall of American history. He will forever be the poster “child” that symbolizes the new Republican Party.
I like to spam long posts because the more I lie and shout the more stupid people think I am.
I mean the people read my long posts with enthusiasm because my long posts are filled
with easily debatable issues. No wait, that does not work either. I make up strawmen arguments
and that is why people like my posts. Oh hell, people probably dont like my posts and I am just waisting air.
The facts about the “46 million uninsured”: 9.737 million are not U.S. citizens (and this is DOCUMENTED by the U.S. Census Bureau); 17.6 million have annual incomes of more than $50,000 and HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON HEALTH INSURANCE; and 14 million already qualify for Medicaid or other programs. That leaves LESS THAN 5 MILLION PEOPLE uncovered and unable to pay for it out of a population of 307 million people. THIS IS NOT A CRISIS AND DOES NOT REQUIRE GOVERNMENT TAKE-OVER OF THE INDUSTRY. Yes, Obama is indeed a bald-faced liar.
I will take Joe Wilson as a “poster child” ANY DAY over the truly arrogantly ignorant abomination that is Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
Questions for so-called “Liberals”
1) Did Obama lie about his racist church of hatred?
2) Did Obama lie about his “Uncle” “Rev” Wright?
3) Did Obama lie after 20 years of listening to Rage, Hatred and Racism?
4) Did Obama lie when he said he did not know his church and pastor were full of vile hated and anger and racism?
5) Did Obama lie when he said he did not know about Communist radicals William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn?
6) Did Obama lie when he said he did not know they were radical bombers of Police and Americans in the past?
7) Did Obama lie when he said in his own voice that he did not want to be a “sellout” and looked for Marxist Professors on campus?
8) Did Obama lie when he did not tell the whole truth about radical racist and communist Frank Davis – his mentor?
9) Did Obama lie when he said he would not raise taxes on Americans under $250,000?
10) Did Obama lie when he said he would not fund abortion?
11) Did Obama lie when he he did not support killing of live babies who survive abortions?
12) Did the media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NYT, LAT, Time, and every other so-called “liberal” rag lie to the American people about Obama being a moderate-center Democrat?
13) Did Obama lie when he said Government can and will reduce healthcare cost?
14) Did Obama lie when he said unemployment would be held to 8%?
15) Did Obama lie when he demanded Healthcare be passed in two weeks with no transparency?
16) Did OBama lie when he said he would make his administration transparent?
17) Did Obama lie about transparency when he hired over 30 Czars that the American people have not been informed about through background checks and Senate confirmation hearings?
18) Did Obama lie to the American people when he said he does not want a “Single-Payer” healthcare system? Which is a universal government mandated system?
19) Did Obama lie when he said he would be the most transparent, post-racial, bi-partisan President in America who reached across to Republicans?
20) Did Obama about bankrupting the Coal industry?
These are just a few questions for our so-called “liberal” friends to amuse themselves with as the current administration does everything to stifle dissent, to keep out tort reform, to stop insurance companies from competing across state lines, to enforce the mandating of an illegal forced insurance coverage on all Americans, to try and raise taxes on any and all products, services, machines, and to increase our debt by over a trillion dollars over the next 10 years.
If the bill is so good “liberals” why don’t Obama, Pelosi and Reid pass it with just the Democrats? They have the power in all three branches to pass all of these bills. Even if all Republicans vote against them, they still have the votes.
So “WHO” is stopping the Democrats? Not Republicans.
Hmmmmmmm…… then stop your whining. The problem is in your own house. And may a POX be upon it.
I ask my liberal friends,what happens when the country collapses for what ever reason-and it will someday?no welfare checks,no food stamps,no social services,nothing-how long till the community orginizers whip up the increasingly feral under-class of poor and dependant minorities,immigrants,uionists,wannabe radicals and revolutionaries-how long?
It will be the L.A rodny king riots a 100 times over across the nation and you my liberal friends will be F#@%$D!Your unarmed,pacifist communities will be burned,looted,raped and slautered as you wait for help and the surviviors made refuges.In well armed CONSERVITIVE communities across this nation our people will quickly form militia’s rallying and defending our people,saveing our communities and takeing in destitute refuges.after that the long bloody war of reunification,millions will die-our sociaty is so divided,so deeply……chas.. days of the gun-time of the rope is comeing comein’
Hey dude, you wouldn’t have that big nutsack if you had Brad s@ck instead of bl@w!
Have a nice day!
There has been a lot of dynamic conversation about this issue. I agree that we need to provide care for those in need but that doesn’t mean a socialized medical plan. Honestly, it shouldn’t be the government’s responsibility to care for these people. Each community and church should be helping out. If each person would volunteer a little bit of their time and their talents; we can accomplish things far greater than any government. I have also read your comments about people wanting a handout. I’m sure there a lot of people here that claim to be Christians; so let’s think about this biblically.
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
(This country was founded so that people could freely worship God without fear of persecution – remember the Quakers)
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
(This country is going into it’s 3rd generation hating God [we have also made money our idol/god]. The day we took prayer out of schools we told God we didn’t need Him or want Him in this country. His word is very clear that he shows mercy to those who love Him)
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
(I think this one speaks for itself. I have seen His name used inappropriately on this forum.)
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
(Let’s look at this commandment from a different side. Yes the point of this commandment is to take a day of rest but look at what is supposed to happen the other 6 days…WORK. The Old Testament talks a lot about men working and gaining much. There are many scriptures in Proverbs that speak of men who don’t work will be beggars. We ALL should work to live. There’s a construction sign they use on road construction “Let ‘Em Work, Let ‘Em Live.” There is great truth to that sign.)
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
(Abortion is murder no matter what terms you use [fetus, baby, etc.].)
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
(Again…speaks for itself.)
8 “You shall not steal.
(Stealing from the rich is still stealing. Please refer back to comments on the 4th commandment. The wealthy are wealthy because of the work they have done. If people would work; they too would have wealth.)
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
(If people would start loving each other and quit lying about everything to everyone; this country would not have the hatred that it has. Who cares what color your neighbor is or what country they come from. We are all God’s children and it is time we started showing each other love.)
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
(Covet means to be jealous. Don’t be jealous if your neighbor or friend has the newest car or a “better home” than you. Be good stewards of what God has given you. Don’t concern yourself with what others have that can be “better” than what you have.)
I know a lot of this doesn’t apply to the healthcare debate but I think it’s high time that we start looking at this from a different perspective. I know the world is not perfect and I’m not standing here saying “world peace.” What I am saying is that it’s time to put God first. Obviously, taking Him out of our lives hasn’t worked so well for us.
God Bless America!
Heather
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Perhaps…, PERHAPS…, they are finally becoming a bit uneasy about the prospect of upsetting so many Americans. Better late than never, I suppose. But not nearly uneasy enough.