Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians

"If that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that's $30,000, $40-$50,000, immediately the surgeon is reimbursed."

August 11, 2009 at 3:33 pm - CNN
Dateline: Portsmouth, NH
Other   August 11th, 2009 - 3:39 pm

He said last month that he wants specialists to become general practitioners, then denied that statement last week.
Now here he is bad mouthing specialists.

yo   August 11th, 2009 - 3:42 pm

This guy is crazy. He is crazy. Nothing more to say. Impeach this idiot now.

CommonSense   August 11th, 2009 - 3:42 pm

“The new grammar of race is constructed in a way that George Orwell would have appreciated, because its rules make some ideas impossible to express — unless, of course, one wants to be called a racist.” – Stephen Carter (b. 1954), U.S. lawyer, author. “Reflections of an Affirmative Action Baby”, ch. 8 (1992)

anon   August 11th, 2009 - 3:43 pm

“That diabetic.” How about “That person with diabetes.”

Don   August 11th, 2009 - 3:51 pm

This does not demonstrate a reason to taking over health care. It only demonstrates a need to beware, educate the public, and insure doctors can’t monopolize their local publics. Gov’t can’t use the excuse that abuse may happen in order to take over everything!!! Gov’t’s # 1 responsibility is to protect us from enemies, foreign and domestic, not protect us from our own enemy within – our stupidity. Self gov’t is only possible when real self gov’t is a part of the character of the individuals making up the nation. This type of gov’t is for the populace of Amsterdam for all their addicts that can’t do anything on their own.

Lady liberty   August 11th, 2009 - 3:52 pm

Oh I can not take this crap any longer he does not know what the heck he is talking about..here is an example of that …my first husband was a diabetic he weighed 134 pounds soaking wet…he had a sore on his foot that would not heal went to the VA hosp ended up the longest hospital stay of all time first they took part of the foot off then after 6 months open wound not healing he ended up with gangrene…at the point of deaths door I took a lawyer to the hospital with me to speak with the doctors,,the lawyer asked if my husband would require more surgery they said no.. well the very next day they told him they will have to amputate his leg…That my friends is your government health care!

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   August 11th, 2009 - 3:52 pm

America…there is something wrong…desperately wrong…with a President of a free country who purposely segregates his citizens by saying negative things about them that are not true!

What do you think it is, America, that makes this man do this on a continual basis?

He is dividing and destroying our great nation and it’s people all in one swell swoop with his words!

Because he loves America and wants to unite and keep his citizens united?

Because he wants to keep his oath to the people that he took on January 20, 2009 to “protect and preserve” this great nation and it’s people by never singling out any one group so that another can think poorly about them?

None of the above, America. I keep hearing these commentators saying “we don’t doubt he loves America and it’s people”!

Whatwhatwhat? Listen to what this man is saying and doing…you call that a love of our country and our people?

I call it hatred of America and it’s people…some of it’s people…only those who don’t agree with the Nation of Islam’s Messiah!

America…the option of impeachment is in order for such a man…and that day will come if he keeps up dividing our people and our nation!

The other option…the “original” Kenyan birth certificate…this is the legal and shortest way to rid ourselves of this nightmare!

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Lady liberty   August 11th, 2009 - 3:53 pm

by the way my husbands total time spent in hospital was 9 months.

doogle   August 11th, 2009 - 3:57 pm

So…

A doctor will get $30,000, for telling a diabetic person to cut back on the Snickers?

Is that what he’s saying?

Ryan   August 11th, 2009 - 4:07 pm

Well…if we would all put air in our tires we could use that money saved on gas to buy heath care!

Obama is a JOKE!!!

kmichaels   August 11th, 2009 - 4:11 pm

Again, Obama takes the cynic approach and assumes that all conservatives are racists and all surgeons do unnecessary surgeries. Of course, government doctors will not care about money and all will be altruistic and rosy. God, Obama is such a lying dumb arse.

Scott   August 11th, 2009 - 4:15 pm

$100 for preventative.
$30,000 – $50,000 for amputation.
Obama “Save money by paying more for preventative.”
$30,000 – $50,000 for preventative.
$30,000 – $50,000 for amputation.
The only way to “save” money by raising payment for preventative is if doctor’s are not doing preventative so that they could get the $50,000 for the amuptation.

1) Doctor’s are not taking care of people correctly so that they can get a pay out later for the major problem it causes
2) The doctor and the surgeon are in on it together and the surgeon who amputates is kicking money back to the doctor who didn’t treat the diabetes right on purpose.

Bow for Hope and Change   August 11th, 2009 - 4:16 pm

So now, obama-lama-ding-dong has a medical degree. Has the country’s top idiot given any thought to the fact that if that gangrenous foot is not amputated “now” that the medical costs to treat the sepsis in trying to save that foot might go through the proverbial roof, and the patient could end up dead anyway…..Oh, wait. That would save the government some money so they could give some shmuck money to buy a new car. Go figure.

Matt   August 11th, 2009 - 4:19 pm

Obama knows as much about Health Care and treating patients as he does running a business. This guy is drawing from a lifetime of experience dealing with this everyday. So cut him some slack. He inherited this mess. LOL Sarcasim aside is this guy like retarded or something? He accuses doctors of cutting out tonsils, now they are chopping off limbs for now reason. Where does this idiot get his information from? Now mind you this is the same idiot that says maybe you don’t need the surgery. He is going to give you a pill so you can live with the pain. Will it be red or a blue pill? I’m pulling for you red.

Noonan   August 11th, 2009 - 4:19 pm

There goes the Physician support for this “reform.” It keeps getting better and better when Obama speaks without prompting. Loving every second of it.

kmichaels   August 11th, 2009 - 4:20 pm

Seriously, is Obama sounding even more stupid than before? Or is his stupidity so routine that it just grates more on our nerves? Boy, that kid is such a moron.

jktnyc   August 11th, 2009 - 4:22 pm

This fool needs to leave medicine to the doctors and focus on something else…….so earlier we had surgeons taking out tonsils because they made more, now they are needlessly amputating limbs when diet and exercise would have fixed the problem. I am sure the idiot farm is missing a person….I found him he resides in the white house!!!!!!!!!

Zeeshopper   August 11th, 2009 - 4:26 pm

Have you guys ever looked at the people present at those “I iz still campaigning” meetings? They all look like they have no clue what he’s saying, but they know that they have to clap once he has a certain tone in his voice. They have NO CLUE what he does say though… oh and neither does he.

Switalla   August 11th, 2009 - 4:27 pm

Can you smell the funk of desperation steaming from Obama?

I smell blood in the water…..

olddog   August 11th, 2009 - 4:36 pm

This man is a moron. He knows very little of which he speaks. My wife is a 52 year old, controlled diabetic who is not overweight, eats right, and works out on a regular basis. She see’s an Endocrenologist 4 times a year with a $40 copay, the Dr. is reimbursed an additional $168 from our insurance carrier. That’s $832/yr for “preventive” medicine. My uncle Sam, who is a 74 year old diabetic recently had his foot amputated due to this disease. Medicare reimbursed the surgeon $419 for the surgery.
I don’t see much incentive for the surgery!

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Matt   August 11th, 2009 - 4:40 pm

This idiot knows about as much about medicine as he does about running business. From his years and years of experience he must be drawing on to make this claim. It’s like trying to compare Fed Ex to the Postal service as a way to show how good the government would be at running something. Ohh wait nevermind only a idiot would make that kind of comparison.

GOP mobster   August 11th, 2009 - 4:54 pm

my god…..This guy went to Harvard? The value of that degree must be falling.

Every Obamafile loves to say how brilliant he is……

Brilliantly Moronic!

2010 is coming

surgeon   August 11th, 2009 - 4:54 pm

Its either criminal ignorance or a colossal blunder of a lie.He may have meant the hospital but then why would he compare the primary care doc to a surgeon? the fee medicare pays for amputations range from 150-700 depending on the level (toe versus thigh) and this includes 90 days of care.
Surgeons would retire at age 40 if they paid $40k for amputations!

An Obamanation   August 11th, 2009 - 5:01 pm

- SOYLENT GREEN —

Not Again?!   August 11th, 2009 - 5:02 pm

Rhetoric…Rhetoric…Rhetoric! First tonsils now amputation! And the PROOF is where exactly?

Steve   August 11th, 2009 - 5:04 pm

As I saw on a bumper sticker:

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Jamesb   August 11th, 2009 - 5:05 pm

Switalla, that’s not just the funk of desperation, it’s a pack of Kools and the couple of scotch and sodas he had for lunch.

A Diabetic person   August 11th, 2009 - 5:07 pm

I could almost cry this guy is so clueless and insulting. As a diabetic, I know for a FACT that doctors whose patients have diabetes do everything they can to make sure they are compliant. If people end up with complications of diabetes, it isn’t the health care parctitioner’s fault, it is the PATIENTS fault for not being compliant! To insinuate that if a diabetic doesn’t have their disease under control it is not only the fault of the doctor, but the preferred outcome for the doctor so he/she can earn more money is so offensive. What a joke of a person we have running this country.

RedTruck12   August 11th, 2009 - 5:09 pm

Honestly – I am trying to understand this President – but have to say – Barack Obama is completely clueless. And beyond that – yes it would be nice if we could get everyone – every citizens to take good care of themselves – EVEN IF CHECK UPS WERE FREE – those people would not follow the doctor’s program. It is what it is!!!

dagney   August 11th, 2009 - 5:14 pm

doctors do not make 50k for a foot operation?

Where is he coming up with that number?

You don’t take off a foot unless the diseased foot will not heal?

Is this guy really our president.

He makes Palin look like a genius when he says stuff like that.

obamasanidiot   August 11th, 2009 - 5:33 pm

hey obama, I think your head is diabetic

DA BEARRRS   August 11th, 2009 - 5:39 pm

Yeah, let’s all put our lives and the lives of the ones we love in the capable hands of this moron and those like him.

elder   August 11th, 2009 - 5:42 pm

Most physcians treat the effect and not the cause. It’s impossible to monitor each patients lifestyle. Everyone would have to have their own personal phys. like the pres. Montoring is code for controlling what people eat, what pills they take, how they sleep etc. its impossible to monitor people when a doctor sees one person for 5 minutes.
Preventive medicine has been around in the form of HMOs’ for decades.This form of coverage dole out care and you are limited to what doctors you can see and what procedures they can perform. Its like getting so many credits and when you use them up your @hit out of luck.
This is to large an issue to ram thru in 6 months or even a year. Its to big an issue to hand over to the government exclusively.

Bill   August 11th, 2009 - 5:43 pm

So this guy just pulls numbers out of his ass, and now he expects us to trust a law he is behind?

He’s on dope. That is the only answer.

ChrisWI   August 11th, 2009 - 5:44 pm

WOW! Is he really that stupid or does he think we are?

ChrisWI   August 11th, 2009 - 5:44 pm

Bill:

I think you may be right about the dope.

ron   August 11th, 2009 - 5:50 pm

?????????????????????? What the heck is he talking about? How did we elect a man who rambles nonsense at every opportunity? Stick with teleprompter please!!! At least let us believe our delusions.

James   August 11th, 2009 - 5:52 pm

So, now he’s decided that surgeons are in cahoots with GPs and there is a vast conspiracy to use amputation or other surgeries ? Gee, I never knew that. I’m sure that every patient who has surgery recommended is just too stupid to get a second opinion…or are all of the doctors members of the same evil group?
My, my….it looks like they are as evil as the insurance companies. Only ONE thing can save us…..ObamaCare…otherwise the earth will be driven into the sun by these mad, mad, doctors.

Fourth Stooge   August 11th, 2009 - 6:04 pm

Someone get this man a teleprompter. That was just embarrassing. He clearly does not know how medicine or insurance works. $50,000 for surgery???!!! Even a C-section or bypass doesn’t cost that much. How would he know–he’s never had any significant accomplishments aside from being calm and “clean” (Joe Biden’s description).

All we’re getting now is half-baked conspiracy theories about insurance companies and corporations. Exactly what you would expect from a man raised overseas (yes, I know he’s a citizen) and employed as a “community organizer” for his adult life. He’s never been in the real America.

I knew we were in trouble when he started referring to a price/earnings ratio as a profit/earnings ratio as he went to work on the stock market. Now he’s just showing his ignorance on a wider variety of subjects.

Where are his aides and briefers? He seems to be just making things up.

Richard   August 11th, 2009 - 6:14 pm

Many of you are overreading this. He is saying that if we can direct dollars to prevention, it can save money otherwise spent on expensive procedures in the future. I don’t think that’s controversial. 1Many of you take this to mean there is a conspiracy to amputate in order to get higher fees. That is NOT WHAT HE’S SAYING. Criticize all you want, but please let’s be honest.

Scott   August 11th, 2009 - 6:24 pm

@ Richard

He said pay doctors more for preventative in order to save money.
The only way to pay more preventative and have it save money overall is to have doctors choose to do preventative instead amputation. Meaning they aren’t doing preventative now because they get mo0re for amputating.

This is all BS anyway soince the doctor in charge of preventative is not the same person getting paid for amputating. So it is just a simple lie.

Paul   August 11th, 2009 - 6:29 pm

So he doesn’t have to quit smoking but I have to lose weight and modify my diet?

So what, do I have to take up smoking to lose the weight?

Quasimoda   August 11th, 2009 - 6:38 pm

Richard,

You must be an idiot. The guy is a Havard grad with “eloquent oratorial skill”. What he said should not have to be subjected to interpretation. Now, if he is an affirmative action Havard grad, that would be a different story.

A diabetic person   August 11th, 2009 - 6:38 pm

Richard,

Do you really think any doctor can control what their patients CHOOSE to do once they leave the office? What makes Obama think that? No, I don’t buy it. He is saying that physicians are GREEDY to the point of hacking people’s body parts off to make more money. It’s sick and disgusting.

Dr J.S. Wilcher   August 11th, 2009 - 6:40 pm

I just listened to this clip and I can only sadly shake my head. I am a surgeon who on a daily basis take care of the ravages of diabetes. I am the doctor of last resort for these patients. I only do amputations when no other alternative exists such as lesser operation, medical treatment or revascularization of the extremity. To suggest that I would permanently maim someone for financial gain hurts me to my core. And the reimbursement I get is in line of $500-900.00 not $50,000.00. Take my 55% overhead and my 50 % tax rate and I take home $125.00 to $225.00. The entire cost to the system including hospital fees, other physicians, artificial limb etc may well be $50,000.00 or more but I don’t see that. Folks you have just be lied to. And you wonder why most doctors are against these idiots running anything.

Dr J.S. Wilcher   August 11th, 2009 - 6:43 pm

I just listened to this clip and I can only sadly shake my head. I am a surgeon who on a daily basis take care of the ravages of diabetes. I am the doctor of last resort for these patients. I only do amputations when no other alternative exists such as lesser operation, medical treatment or revascularization of the extremity. To suggest that I would permanently maim someone for financial gain hurts me to my core. And the reimbursement I get is in line of $500-900.00 not $50,000.00. Take my 55% overhead and my 50 % tax rate and I take home $125.00 to $225.00. The entire cost to the system including hospital fees, other physicians, artificial limb etc may well be $50,000.00 or more but I don’t see that. Folks you have just been lied to. And you wonder why most doctors are against these idiots running anything.

TruthTeller   August 11th, 2009 - 6:44 pm

So let me get straight what our 57 state, Special Olympics Prez is saying:

The Police are stupid;
Doctors cut off people’s feet for money;
The Postal Service is the model for ObamaCare;
Surgeons unnecessarily remove kid’s tonsils to increase profits;
Private enterprise and entrepreneurship are evil;
Joe “Gaff” Biden is the best Vice Prez he could find;
Racist, biased Latinas make the best Supreme Court Justices;
Hillary “I’m the S of S, not Bill” Clinton was the best choice;
Leon “zero experience” Panetta was perfect for the CIA’;
Eric “I love terrorists” Holder makes the best Atty. General;
Tim “Tax Cheat” Geithner is PERFECT to run the IRS
The Queen of England needs an iPod (with ME on it);
I am NOT afraid of Canadians, despite what “Boogie Men” they are…

Hmmm… did I miss any brilliant moves by our “Genius in Chief”?

TH   August 11th, 2009 - 6:50 pm

Unbelievable lack of insight into this issue from the guy who’s supposed to be making the difficult decisions.

First of all… it is MUCH less expensive to amputate an extremity in a patient with a an infected diabetic wound than to make heroic attempts at salvaging the leg – and most of the time end up with an amputation in any case. If you want to argue economy you would be better off immediately amputating a patient’s leg once it gets to that end point.

Secondly… surgeons reimbursed $40,000 for an amputation? Is he crazy? Medicare pays less than $1000 for an above-knee amputation and given the amount of time spent with the patient/family before an after surgery, the high-risk nature of the surgery, this is a surgery that’s hardly worth doing from a monetary standpoint.

Where is this guy getting his facts? Does he feel like it’s OK just to spout whatever he wants? This is getting disgraceful.

personal responsibility   August 11th, 2009 - 6:53 pm

wow.. how about the person had to get an amputation because they did not follow the doctors directions

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   August 11th, 2009 - 6:54 pm

Dear Dr J.S. Wilcher at 6:43 pm…thank you for the truths you have given!

Truly this is what we need to “tweek” healthcare. We need “medical” professionals…not “professional” politicians who know nothing of healthcare.

Experts like yourself will give a true assessment of where we are in healthcare and what needs to be done to correct it.

My suggestion is that it is examine piece by piece not a complete “overhaul” of our existing system. We do not need to throw the baby out with the bath water…we just need to change the dirty water!

We can start with prescription drugs. Get a panel of pharmacists, doctors, nurses, and drug suppliers along with “some” token politicians.

Not just from the AMA…in bed with Bilderberg Bush-Obama. But professionals who will volunteer their services to help correct the system.

Then once the prescription drugs are finished and passed…we can go on to Emergency rooms and their problems and systematically go through our “existing” healthcare and improve it for all!

Thank you, again, for your expertise…I only wish that thousands more professionals like yourself would stand up and speak out the truth of the problems with this ‘government run” healthcare that Americans do not want!

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2. GETTING INVOLVED

DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010…GUARANTEED!

LAGUNA   August 11th, 2009 - 6:54 pm

I challenge ANYONE to read your insurance policy right now.

As you read, the one thing that will repulse you most is when you read the section that describes dismemberment and loss of limbs.

Mr. Obama chooses the MOST FRIGHTENING and disgusting language from insurance policies and uses it to score political points.

I did not vote for Mr. Obama in the general election last year. I have been willing to give him a chance. I believe he is a good father and a loyal, loving husband.

With this clip, I’m starting to realize that he has a side to him that is beyond ethics. It is actually frightening that he would try to scare people because he IS LOSING a political fight.

It’s sick!

Not to mention the insensitivity to the millions of Americans who have diabetes. They must be saying, “Thanks for reminding me that I have such a terrible disease, and that some day I may have to have an amputation.”

He is showing a sick, cruel, ruthless streak that is scary.

A diabetic person   August 11th, 2009 - 7:29 pm

Given the cost of treating an ulceration on the extremity, and Obama’s obsession with saving money, what he should do is just tell diabetics that if they don’t take care of themselves and end up with an incurable sore, they will not be given any treatment to save the foot, we’ll just have it amputated because that will be cheaper than trying to save it!

LAGUNA   August 11th, 2009 - 7:44 pm

TRUTHTELLER :

You are right on.
I think his people know he has this terrible defect as a speaker – he makes stuff up.
The media doesn’t challenge him as they do other people, Sarah Palin, for instance.

As a matter of fact, his comments are about as accurate as hers. They are really not that different in that sense.

LAGUNA   August 11th, 2009 - 8:14 pm

Don’t get me wrong. Mr. Obama is a most more masterful politician. He is more masterful with words, and is voice is much easier to listen to.

Her is more proof that Mr. Obama was not “VETTED”. He’s been caught in lies, but the major print, television, and radio media refuse to call him on it, as they have with other politicians.

Well, we’ve got what we’ve got. I think it’s great that people are getting involved. As they say . . .

IF YOU’RE NOT PISSED OFF, YOU’RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

LAGUNA   August 11th, 2009 - 8:17 pm

Perhaps I should have said:

IF YOUR’E NOT OUTRAGED, YOU’RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

Brax   August 11th, 2009 - 8:22 pm

This goes to the comment by “yo” how do you impeach an illegal alien?

LAGUNA   August 11th, 2009 - 8:23 pm

Maybe Mr. Obama is mathematically challenged. Seriously, he’s Rain Man but in reverse. He can communicate well and is very social, but he can’t do basic math.

In the following dialogue, substitute the name “Barack” for “Ray”. I think you’ll get my point.

Doctor: Ray, do you know how much a candy bar costs?
Raymond: ‘Bout a hundred dollars.
Doctor: Do you know how much one of those new compact cars costs?
Raymond: ‘Bout a hundred dollars.

Ralph   August 11th, 2009 - 8:29 pm

What a complete and utter MORON! I am a surgeon that does amputations on diabetics. I can assure you that I have NEVER been paid 40 to 50 THOUSAND dollars for cutting off a leg. In fact the average reimbursement for a BKA or AKA is around 500 to 600 bucks.

BTW, if the family care providers want to be paid more then go thru the extra 3 to 5 years of training, and go into a specialty that pays. Family docs will be extincet because what they do can be done by PAs and NPs bottom line. They are a non-specialty.

kevin   August 11th, 2009 - 8:59 pm

Wow… has he never heard of the Hippocratic oath? Any doctor that amputated a foot in preference over giving other forms of care would be sued for malpractice.

It is really too bad that we cannot sue lawyers (much of what we see in Washington D.C.) for malpractice. It is Lawyers not doctors who charge huge fees and have single handedly made it difficult for doctors to practice medicine.

We need TORT REFORM — just look at healthcare in Texas (it is booming…) and it is one of the only states in the Union (if not the only state) with tort reform.

If you ask me who I trust more — my doctor — or any Lawyer serving on capitol hill… you know my answer. Throw ALL of the professional politicians OUT!!!!

Stepan   August 11th, 2009 - 9:04 pm

Hey! Fourth Stooge!

Don’t worry. President Obama is ivy league-educated. He knows what he’s talking about. He’s been to Harvard. He’s been to Columbia.

He fits the liberal template. Besides that, he’s a nice guy. Who wouldn’t vote for a nice guy who fits the liberal template?

Only a racist or a nazi or a conservative.

You can trust these people. (But with what?)

American Liberal   August 11th, 2009 - 9:52 pm

An Obamanation posted a great idea. Turn old people and retarded babies into food. You could have veal from the young ones and crackers from the old ones.

Cris   August 11th, 2009 - 10:00 pm

Why are we discussing this? At the moment congress passed an amendment to Obama Care (approx. 3 Fridays ago), the debate should have been over. Only a complete idiot can support something, which the disingenuous fools who wrote it, went out of their way to opt out off. Reality shows that supporters of Obama Care are either delusional nitwit masochists or they are so full of hate, they would commit suicide if Obama promised to attend their funeral.

Dan   August 11th, 2009 - 10:06 pm

As an orthopedic surgeon this is laughable that a surgeon makes $30,000 to $50,000 for the amputation “of a foot”. The truth is $300 to $600 dollars, and that includes the pre-op visit and three months follow-up in the office. To suggest we would amputate a limb unnecessarily (or for profit) is unconscionable. Nothing could be further from the truth. We should be scared to think this is the brain trust of health care reform.

SukieTawdry   August 11th, 2009 - 10:48 pm

Wow. Does just anything come out of his mouth now?

robert m   August 11th, 2009 - 10:57 pm

this guy is a not telling the truth. His healthcare expert is Rahm Emanual’s brother. He is a non-elected offical without national respect, Doc’s hate, and I mean HATE to see a person lose a limb.
Many times it is self induced, food, booze, no exercise, etc. But who is innocent cast the first stone. OBAMA is a straw man without care for the elderly or the empathy for those who cannot control their actions. He promises to control folks (as he calls them) who cannot emotionally control their lifestyles. It is impossible. We..and I mean We should help any american regardless of age, weight, mental status, color, financial status, and so on…..these guys are talking like hitler…if they are too old..let them go….if they are to fat…and we have treated them three times…let them go….EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO TREAT THEM YOU CANNOT….GEEEZE where did you get these heartless freaks???for votes?? for non americans???for kids who don’t understand his tax on young people who make over 30K? 7%??? 2100 bucks mandatory tax? even if they don’t want it? Ya better wake up or lose your freedom….PLEASE report me to the keystone white house cops….I have a college degree and a lawyer

N Waff   August 12th, 2009 - 2:29 am

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Obama preaches that people will have to modify their lifestyles but Obama is still a closet smoker of cigarettes. What a hypocrite!
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ed3577   August 12th, 2009 - 2:34 am

Someone educate this fool………

……Last month Obama railed against “Pediatricians” for yanking
kids tonsils out unneccessarily to make more money…….I
believe that a “tonsillectomy” is perfomed by a Surgeon……..

……Now Obama is accusing “General Practitioners” of amputating
the limbs of diabetics unnecessarily to make more money……..
Again……I believe that procedure is also performed by a Surgeon….

OR TELL HIM TO SHUT UP.

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Sometimes when you win……..you really lose…….2010.

poetopoet   August 12th, 2009 - 7:04 am

Let me tell you about this and that about this and explain to you about that and this once more. Obama can’t help himself, when a Muslim lies, it’s their natural right according to their Koran; amazing spell check here and Mic-Word wants you use a capital for the koran, but not the Holy Bible. Obama submits a will proven fraudulent document to subvert our Constitution, to be elected; a Hawaiian COLB, that he was born in a Dole Pineapple Field, and everyone but a view believe it. Google executive order 13489 the very first thing Obama he did, once in office was he denied access to anything about him, everything. Want lies and treason has Obama buried everywhere?

Obama’s endless lies and deceptions, his Chicago Mafioso like politics, and his now obvious stealth black liberation theology socialist revolution; 23 years with Rev. Wright training comes out stronger than ever, which are destroying our once great country; pitting neighbor against neighbor, black against white. The lying S.O.B. claims all the while to unite, the cry of a community organizer who is a liar, liar, liar.

I need no more proof of the dum-dums in America who believe in this person, than his followers and supporters. God bless and help America, please.

MadinOhio   August 12th, 2009 - 9:58 am

First,I have yet to hear of surgeon getting reimbursed anywhere near the dollar figure he throws out, it is typically less the $1,000 to the surgeon. Yes, that is still a lot of money but surgeons also have years of training and more responsibility than most of us in our jobs. Obama is misinforming Americans and this is wrong!

Second, most family practitioners are working hard to prevent but many Americans want an easy fix and do not take care of themselves as instructed by their PCP. So they end in the ER with a massive infection and needing an amputation, oh, and may be one of the many patients that a surgeons takes care of without billing at all.

Third, Americans need to be accountable and Obama needs to get his facts straight!

Linda   August 12th, 2009 - 1:18 pm

This kind of ignorance makes me crazy. Its bad enough to deal with the disinformation
from the Right;we’ve got it coming from the Left as well.
Does Obama have a proof-reader for his speeches? Any Certified Coder could have told him
that the Surgeon receives $586.86 for the amputation of a foot (CPT Codes 2007-Medicare
reimbursements).
Combine that with the three month “global period” of free postoperative care for that
particular surgery. Meaning …that every postoperative visit,(hospital and office) is
for free.
So if the patient is in the hospital for a week, (he probably has other co-morbidies
such as diabetes and cardiac disease). The Surgeon sees him daily, plus at least two
or three visits to the office.
He gets about $58.00 per visit to share with his office staff and pay for supplies.
You pay a plumber more than that.

Daniel   August 12th, 2009 - 8:08 pm

I am a Head and Neck surgeon and Mr. Obama is way off base. There are no surgical
procedures that reimburse anywhere close to $30,000. Even a complex 10 hour proc
edure will be at best $7,000, if Medicare more like $1,000. A forefoot amputation
likely nets the surgeon around $500. Our president is dangerously inaccurate and
misleading and needs to be held responsible. This is an outrage.

Charlene   August 13th, 2009 - 1:39 pm

Where is the AMA; are they not going to make public statements contradicting these outrageous comments from “The Smoker”!

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I think it’s amazing how you can hear his actual words, yet somehow believe he said something completely different than what he said. He didn’t say that doctors choose amputation. He said that we should pay more money to primary care physicians to fight diabetes in order to prevent amputation, which costs more. That’s quite obvious from his words. Yet you people are so intent on finding something wrong that you refuse to believe your own ears.

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A diabetic person: Sometimes complications arise in spite of good care and the patient doing everything right. That’s the nature if diabetes. I once had a child who had every complication known to man in spite of the best medical and parental care. She did everything right too, to no avail. Stop blaming Dr’s AND patients.

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You guys are complete nutbags. To go through 8 years of Bush and call THIS guy an idiot? As far as “having a medical degree” rememmber when Bush and the Repubutards shut down congress for Terri Shaivo? Remember when the autopsy came back and she was blind and brain dead? Probably not you morons can’t remember farther back than the last talking point you heard on Fox News.

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