MSNBC Asserts Violent Rhetoric Exclusively From Right; Two Months Ago Featured Guest Calling for Violent Revolution From Left

On January 8th MSNBC guests Eugene Robinson and Josh Marshall, along with host Keith Olbermann, soberly assured their viewers that violent, political rhetoric is exclusive to the American right. Two months earlier, on November 8th, MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan called for a new American revolution and featured guest Ted Rall who advocates a violent overthrow of the government.

January 9, 2011 at 3:30 am - MSNBC
Dateline: New York
Steve_Pa   January 9th, 2011 - 3:35 am

MSNBC should change their name to Pravda.

Dave_in_Ok   January 9th, 2011 - 3:37 am

They don't think their viewers are smart enough to remember what was said 2 months ago.

Dave_in_Ok   January 9th, 2011 - 3:38 am

I think Pravda was better. lol

MellowFire   January 9th, 2011 - 3:39 am

Examples of Right Wing Terrorist Groups:

Anarchists
New Black Panthers
Al Qaeda
ELF – Environmental Liberation Front
Teamsters
SEIU
Many more…

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 3:44 am

Doesn't matter left or right violent rhetoric that de-legitimizes duly elected government officials is wrong!!! Fundamentalists of EVERY stripe portend destruction and evil.

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 3:45 am

Other than AQ and Anarchists I fail to see how these groups are terrorists. Do you have any examples? I've never even heard of some of them.

WorldclaZZ   January 9th, 2011 - 4:09 am

Last time I checked, homeowners got "thrown out of their homes" because they stopped making mortgage payments. Sorry, but that's the adult world we live in.

claspur   January 9th, 2011 - 4:19 am

I guess violent bomb-throwing sixties radicals don't count, that are teaching the kids in our schools, and working in this government-now don't enter into 'Their' equation-now, does it?

Jamesb   January 9th, 2011 - 4:19 am

Violent Revolution has been a tool of the LEFT since at least the overthrown of the Russian crown by VIOLENT Communists. You can tick off the examples of LEFTIST OPPRESSION since then by just replaying world history in your mind.

Communists overthrow Romanovs take over Russia
Anarchists kill Franz Ferdinand WWI starts
Post Wiemar Germany overthrown by NATIONAL SOCIALISTS
Communist North Korea and Red China try to subjugate Democratic Korea
South Vietnam invaded by Communist North Vietnam
Pol Pot – Communist take over of Thailand/parts of Laos
Communist Soviets stamp out uprisings in Czechoslovakia

There are many, many more examples of lthe left KILLING anyone who resists – the LEFTIST BODY count runs into the MILLIONS.

sunflowers   January 9th, 2011 - 4:22 am

The Anti-American Manifesto? What the hell is that? Do ya think Napalitano has this guy on her terror watch list?

MellowFire   January 9th, 2011 - 4:32 am

The flowers are always in bloom in your make-believe world

Your solution to all problems:
1, Believe in nothing
2. Stand up for/to nothing
3. Never disagree

'What what what,' Why not start a political movement called the "Lemming Party?"

gwar5   January 9th, 2011 - 4:40 am

They're horrible! These anarchist violent marxists are horrible! They say anything and it is covered up by the MSM as if it never happened when something like this happens. If it's a conservative it drags on forever like a huge deal, like Palin 'targeting' candidates in the last election.

It's an Apartheid double standard system that is enforced by the liberal MSM.

Maddogwelby   January 9th, 2011 - 4:40 am

Most of the mainstream media is no different than the communist controlled media that spits out their goverment propaganda on a daily basis. Thankfully they can't hide their vicious bias. Just like in EAST GERMANY before German re-unification the population knew they were being lied to.The left wing Media should be fully investigated and brought before congressional hearings to explain their blatent inferances and attempts to blame any one segment of our population for these events.

Jamesb   January 9th, 2011 - 4:43 am

Frances Fox Piven – Liberal Icon – quote:

“So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?”

In other words, the kind of action her protégé George Wiley fomented in the 70s with the NWRO. She admonishes the Left not to wait for “the end of the American empire and even the end of neoliberal capitalism,” but to up the ante at present to pressure for “big new [government] initiatives in infrastructure and green energy” that could “ward off the darkness.” Her fear is that the new Congress, instead of moving in the direction she and the Left favors, will concentrate on “deficit reduction by means of tax cuts and spending cuts.” As for President Obama, she sees him as a new version of Herbert Hoover, who foolishly meets with corporate executives and seeks to placate them."

Frances Fox Piven communist American leftist hero
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2010/12/30/clow...

Whats_Up   January 9th, 2011 - 4:47 am

"Take it Back", as in our country and "Keep our Guns" is VIOLENT Political Rhetoric and Political VIOLENCE?
WOW …can't seem to find THAT definition in my World Book Dictionary.

Once again, the MSM ignores the truth & hopes all will have forgotten that it has been the LEFT who has been VIOLENT over and over. First – Definition: Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, injuring, harming, damaging, or abusing.

Let us stroll down MEMORY LANE …the guys who beat up the black guy in MI …oops, that was SEIU. OK, the guys who threw eggs & paint all over a bus. oops, again SEIU. OK, the guys who destroyed blocks of business's in PA …oops, those were bused-in G20 demonstrators paid for by Soros groups. OK, the guy who bit off another guy's finger in CA …oops, that was an angry white guy biting the finger off a Tea Party guy. OK, the protesters throwing water bottles & trash at the cops in Phoenix …oops, radical leftists. OK, destroying AM radio towers near Seattle …oops, radical leftist group ELF. The violent protests in Greece, UK & France – Socialist Leftists. The G-20 meeting in Canada – more bused-in leftists. AND FINALLY …yesterday's tragedy …a radical, violent LEFTIST.

Phlunked   January 9th, 2011 - 4:49 am

Wow. A definitive call to violence by a left-winger. Will Olbermann 'repudiate' this or will he remain a hypocrite. It isn't Beck, O'Reilly, Talk Radio, et. al that is inciting violence and hatred. It is clearly coming from the other side.

Phlunked   January 9th, 2011 - 4:55 am

Who defines 'fundamentalism', anyway? It seems the left believes they have a monopoly on the definition of 'fundamentalism.' It is nothing but a term used by the left in an attempt to mostly marginalize perfectly reasonable political opposition and to paint their opponents with the same brushstroke as the few whack-jobs that do exist. This is how the left believes they can silence their opposition. With Ad-Hominem, Strawmen and Brow-Beating them into submission.

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 4:57 am

Unfortunately they are correct in that assumption. Those that have the brains to see through their propaganda left their viewership by now .

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 5:00 am

If you haven't heard of them then it is a failure on your part for not doing your homework and educating yourself. That is a sure way to fail seeing anything.GOOGLE is free.

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 5:06 am

Your first assumption was that we live in a democracy. We don't. The rhetoric as you call it is the right of the people to sound the alarm when their law is violated. If you understood the Declaration of Independence you'd understand that the first amendment must be made whole or the second amendment then alone protects the people from illegitimate government.

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 5:10 am

I believe it was tallied at ~160,000,000 which is quite a conservative figure as it does not account for the deaths under those regimes after rising to power.

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 5:11 am

payroll more likely

A_pen   January 9th, 2011 - 5:15 am

The criminal always sees the law as against him, sees the police as a threat and claims arrest is violent use of force. The problem is that we now have a criminal enforcing the law. What has come of it is a disaster.

duh_swami   January 9th, 2011 - 5:18 am

Inciting violence, and riot, and the violent overthrow of the US gov is illegal, why are not these leftist thugs in prison…If Olberman does not refute, it makes MSNBC a criminal enterprise…but we already knew that…

Urthmovr   January 9th, 2011 - 5:24 am

NONSENSE! This guy is NOT calling for a violent revolution from the left. He specifically says that nobody wants violence.

His examples are of organized civil disobediance – blocking highways, srikes, etc.

Breitbart lies AGAIN! This kind of 'analysis' is what is poisoning the political environment. Just tell the truth, Andy, and the world will be a better place.

leslie_gaea   January 9th, 2011 - 5:24 am

Bill Ayers, islamic terrorists, enviro-terrorists, mexican drug cartel – all clearly not conservatives. Most violence originates from the left. The Washington Post clearly lacks journalistic integrity.

Jamesb   January 9th, 2011 - 5:29 am

Frances Fox Piven – Liberal Icon – quote:

“So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?”
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2010/12/30/clow...

abccink   January 9th, 2011 - 5:33 am

So, let's talk about the "rhetoric" of Muslims and how it might have affected the shooting at Fort Hood! Oh no, we wouldn't want to do that would we?

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 5:35 am

Glad you think you know me but you don't. I am none of those things. This issue here is advocating violence if you don't get your way. People have a right to disagree and civil society accepts that.

drdaily   January 9th, 2011 - 5:37 am

"His examples are of organized civil disobediance – blocking highways, srikes, etc"…

etc…as in breaking store front windows, burning cars, trashing everything in their path kind of protest? It's all on tape and archived as a reminder of who the real violent radicals are compared to those evil right wingers protesting at the Washington Monument on 8/28?
Nice try bud, the record speaks for itself.

Phlunked   January 9th, 2011 - 5:38 am

Of course he uses some weasel words at the start of his diatribe to give himself an 'out', but he goes on to say that the 'peaceful' methods aren't working and that 'revolt' is a responsibility at this point. It was certainly a veiled allusion to violence with a plausible deniability escape hatch built in. The icing on the cake was that he closed with the same class warfare vitriol that we hear leftists repeat ad nauseum all the time.

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 5:38 am

I'm sorry. Point me to that assumption please? We live in a democratic republic which means we freely elect our representatives. Those elected representatives are legitimate and everything you don't like ISN'T unconstitutional.

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 5:39 am

You define fundamentalism by your words and actions. I haven't heard anybody trying to silence the right or left. That is just an overstatement.

Jamesb   January 9th, 2011 - 5:42 am

Yup. EVERY G 8 Summit LEFTISTS running wild burning stuff, breaking windows, etc…

Recent riots in London and all over Europe – over LESSENING of "benefits" which is actually Euro-socialism failing and the leftist hordes rioting for MORE socialism…

Maggiepoo   January 9th, 2011 - 5:45 am

I can assure you, if he had been someone from the right, all of his rantings from his facebook page, twitter, and his videos would not have been removed by YOUR imperial government. Are you kidding? They would be spewed across YOUR liberal news media 24/7. As it stands, your lefty news medias have hidden everything, WHY? Too bad though and a little too late, because most of us on the right have found him out and have saved all his liberal rantings…Bottom up….top down (LEFTY BATTLE CRY) FROM NONE OTHER THAN VAN JOHNSON AND VALERIE JARRETT………nice try lefties!

Shrink the State   January 9th, 2011 - 5:48 am

The left up to its usual lies and distortions.

The radical left, as represented by MSNBC, is violent, greedy, deceitful, vengeful, ignorant, morally bankrupt, and traitorous.

What_what_what   January 9th, 2011 - 5:49 am

No. I think it means they aren't engaging in terrorism. They are probably just groups you disagree with politically. That doesn't make them terrorists and you can't seem to provide any even quick examples with all your Google knowledge (which is a whole different problem if that is where all your knowledge comes from). Grow up.

rogue operator   January 9th, 2011 - 6:04 am

Following up on MellowFire's brilliant comment, there seems like there may have been, once upon a time, a germ of reasoning in leftism. After the Nazis devastated Europe, and then the Cold War set in (ideological bi-polarity), some leftists began seeking answers in Nietzschean nihilism and Deweyan pragmatism, and other ethically muted pseudo-philosophies. The central organizing idea essentially was that there could be "perpetual peace" (to use Kant's phrase) if people did not believe in anything, and simply "existed" (to draw on Heidegger).

Unfortunately, these ideologies leave no clear guides for morally virtuous or reprehensible behavior. Once integrated into one's worldview, they tend to lead one to existentialist desperation and rationalizations such as "the ends justify the means." This moral relativism, combined with political correctness (which vilifies all forms of discrimination and judgment), is why today's left is much more prone to violence than today's right, which on the whole want the rule of law enforced, and the Judaeo-Christian ethic allowed breathing space in civil society.

For nearly a hundred years, the left has abused the law for political gain, and has taken advantage of Christians' propensity to forgive and to "turn the other cheek." Eventually there comes a tipping point, and the conservatives may retaliate, but the prime offender will be the left, which never knows when to leave people alone. The Christian ethic of goodness is the void into which the evil of leftism penetrates; but there is only so much injustice law-abiding conservatives will put up with before turning to their American revolutionary roots to defend liberty. But generally, conservatives are not prone to committing senseless acts of violence, but rather defending themselves if attacked.

thegoldman   January 9th, 2011 - 6:09 am

The left is still in denial, after using race, class warfare and lies. Mixed all together. You get shootings… then say it's Fox, talk radio and the right.. The left is violent, greedy, deceitful, vengeful, ignorant and moral less…

BHO_UMM_UMM_UMM   January 9th, 2011 - 6:15 am

The violence around the world is almost exclusively from Islamists and Marxists, just as it is here in America. They preach hate for orthodox America, orthodox Americans, Christians, Jews, the Founding Fathers, and the Founding Father's creation, the Constitution.

The left owns this attack on Ms. Giffords and the other innocent Americans killed there January 8, 2010.

NOQTR4TR8RS   January 9th, 2011 - 6:29 am

"Manhattanstan"

Heh heh….

Oldphoto678   January 9th, 2011 - 6:35 am

YOU OWN THIS ONE RIGHTIES!!!

REMEMBER ARIZONA IN 2012

joymc   January 9th, 2011 - 6:42 am

PLO, KKK, NAACP, TEA party, everyone with letters.

wohlfguy   January 9th, 2011 - 6:48 am

You ever heard of the Fairness Act? How about Al Sharpton saying that we need legislation to stop the hate on right wing talk radio?

The left would love to go back to the days when everyone got their news from 3 TV stations and newspapers. That is when the left owned the media and the message.

Open your eyes!!

Sickofobama   January 9th, 2011 - 6:50 am

Communist Nutjob Van Jones and Far-Left Radical Nutjob Francis Piven are calling for violence.

The people they speak to are liberals.

To my Patriotic Virtual Friends:

Let these liberals have their day in the fun calling us all to blame.

We know the lunatic who do this read the same books their do, The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kempf.

Pray for the victims, pray for our nation.

duh_swami   January 9th, 2011 - 6:52 am

You lie lefty…We will remember it in 2012…

wohlfguy   January 9th, 2011 - 6:52 am

The lunatic was an avowed leftist according to his classmates you twit!. Jared Lougher is the only one that owns this. You and the rest of the idiots trying to blame this on the right are lower that whale sh*t. Trying to score political points from this tragedy shows just how pathetic you progressives are. Anything to further the agenda. Jackass!!

smellyfinger   January 9th, 2011 - 6:54 am

Blaming the Tea Party for this
is like blaming ducks for a flood.

Grace656   January 9th, 2011 - 6:56 am

The soberness of Keith Olbermann? I've frequently wondered if he would have a heart attack on air during one of his incredible rants.

johndoesoetoro   January 9th, 2011 - 6:58 am

Unfortunately, many Americans aren't smart enough to remember what was said (or done) 2 months ago. Afterall, there is so much to remember at this point. This is why I've kept a journal or sorts.

Check out the list I've kept… http://www.american-trojan-horse.blogspot.com/

BHO_UMM_UMM_UMM   January 9th, 2011 - 6:58 am

Loughner loved that old rightwing playbook, the Communist Manifesto. The one Wright, Ayers, and Obama follow for policy making and recommendations to the legislature. He supported the right wing Democrap party.

If there is a sane leftwinger, would they please step forward? Mr. Oldphoto678, your should step to the rear.

dmille2000   January 9th, 2011 - 7:04 am

Rahm Emanuel plunging a steak knife in the table ''Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!''

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" Barack Obama

"if you get hit, we'll punch back twice as hard" WH aide Jim Messina

rogue operator   January 9th, 2011 - 7:06 am

We live in a Constitutional republic, with democratic institutions to ensure representational accountability. This country was in no way founded on "mob rule" at any level, and there are clearly expressed rules in the Constitution for limiting government and protecting individual rights. There is a difference. Democracy means the majority gets what it wants, and conservatives stipulate, "in accordance with the Constitution."

ObummerSucks   January 9th, 2011 - 7:07 am

Lefties prefer that they do the boot on the neck

Son_onthe_Beach   January 9th, 2011 - 7:07 am

These hyperbolic headlines do NOT do us any good. No where in the video segment does Ratigan endorse a "revolution" and no where does the idiot guest "advocate" a "violent" revolution. They are discussing history and what "could" happen again. This is clearly Yellow Journalism of the same variety for which we denounce the left. Leftists are the hyperbolic Yellow Journalists and so let them hang themselves with their own lies which will be outed by rational discourse from this and other sites, Krauthammer, Will, Prager, Limbaugh, et al. Do not succomb to the lure of Yellow Journalism.

MellowFire   January 9th, 2011 - 7:09 am

similar to wohlfguy's comment,

The Left as ALL ABOUT SILENCING ANYBODY who disagrees with their Utopian idiocy. It's called POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and its invaded and is destroying society. You Leftist idiots are intoxicated on your self-appointed superiority. Your views and reality came to a fork in the road along time ago to a point now you no longer know or understand reality.

Son_onthe_Beach   January 9th, 2011 - 7:13 am

I see you there in your basement, rammed up against your carboard table, alone at the keyboard and agonizing over a witless and useless existence; dependency is your hallmark and anonymous bile is the last shard of your connection to humanity.

rogue operator   January 9th, 2011 - 7:23 am

In the leftist's mind, defending oneself is violent, when it comes to property or war.

Duuuuh   January 9th, 2011 - 7:30 am

Your intellectual washer seems to be stuck on spin cycle with an unbalanced load What_what_what.

Ka-thunk, ka-thunk ka-thunk.

Whats_Up   January 9th, 2011 - 7:33 am

Morning Rogue …How unabashedly True. Hmm, could have stopped at "defending oneself is violent" …

BHO_UMM_UMM_UMM   January 9th, 2011 - 7:35 am

Now that there is no doubt this was a left-wing Democrap nut expressing the violence encouraged by left-wing teaching, you want to sound all centrist and understanding. You are the problem, you radical left-wing puke.

denise92459   January 9th, 2011 - 7:36 am

Ted Rall…is he kidding me? The left have been peaceful and non-violent since the 1970's??? They can't hold a protest without starting fires, turning over cars and breaking windows. And Dylan Ratigan calling for a new revolution, complete with violence…I guess that means it's okay for the LEFT to hold a violent revolution to overthrow the government. We are only calling for our government to adhere to the Constitution. Does anyone remember, 2 years ago, when the left claimed that Obama was going to be the great 'uniter'? I haven't seen the country THIS divided since, at least, the race riots of 1968. What we are witnessing is the American Revolution, the Civl War and the 1960's all over again. Hillary Clinton said that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Apparently that only holds so for the left. To them, the right has no right to dissent, especially since we have Obama in office. If the right dares to dissent, we are hatemongers, fearmongers, racists, etc. The unmitigated gall and lack of shame on the left is nauseating.

rogue operator   January 9th, 2011 - 7:37 am

Hey, What's Up. Doesn't it seem like an ideology that holds that it is immoral to defend oneself is just an empty rationalization for tyranny and abuse? That position would seem to eviscerate any notion of "rights" on its face. I hope some lefties read this thread and wake up just a little. It has a lot of good lessons for them if they are as "open-minded" as they pretend they are.

Winston_S_C   January 9th, 2011 - 7:40 am

There is no Pravda in Izvestia, and there is no Izvestia in Pravda

RightUnite   January 9th, 2011 - 7:43 am

Amen.

BHO_UMM_UMM_UMM   January 9th, 2011 - 7:45 am

Liar. He uses carefully chosen euphemisms and encourages actions that will directly lead to the need for violence of those the leftists deprive of liberty, freedom, and basic needs for survival. All forms of leftist totalitarianism governments use deprivations, violence, brutality, and murder to force themselves upon the serfs they rule.

Pobbo©®™   January 9th, 2011 - 7:46 am

I'm wondering if this left wing psycho (and aren't they all) is involved in the recent incendiary (package bombs) parcels sent to other government personnel and buildings…

The left has a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng history of mail bombs and attacks on government.

Winston_S_C   January 9th, 2011 - 7:47 am

he was using weasel words but the message was there

Pobbo©®™   January 9th, 2011 - 7:49 am

or a pen-pal where she gets her marching orders.

Subsalior   January 9th, 2011 - 7:54 am

Again, the "Left" will seize any and all opportunities to spread their mental illness for political purposes…..

Whats_Up   January 9th, 2011 - 7:54 am

Too funny, Rogue …your last 2 sentences anyway …LMAO. When it comes to morality, Leftists are as "open-minded" as a Clam in cold water. Takes HEAT to open them up …and then what do you have? A cooked, brainless clam.

Forgot to mention on my initial post the (failed) NYC leftist car bomber or Ft. Hood's Husan …oh well. Just MAJOR Facts omitted …I'm sure the MSM would have been proud of me.

BobbyGG   January 9th, 2011 - 8:02 am

How did I know that the Liberals would jump on this as something to attack the Right on. Disgusting.

rogue operator   January 9th, 2011 - 8:03 am

WU, I could add to your list, but I have errands to run. You were right about the last part of my above comment. Sheer wishful thinking.

(Leftists aren't Islamists, btw, though their thinking is similar in some respects. Scratch Hussan off the list. You could add the guy who flew into the government building in Texas, however. That's a really fitting example. TC.)

Son_onthe_Beach   January 9th, 2011 - 8:05 am

The lead-in statement that has Ratigan "calling for a revolution" or his guest "advocating a "violent overthrow" is nowhere presented or implied in what this segment presents.

Whats_Up   January 9th, 2011 - 8:25 am

I see a book in the making here, Rogue. Yep, forgot about that TX dude.
…nah, not going to scratch Hussan off my list …the Left is in bed with the Mooslims and vice versa …only the Mooslims are using the left to gain power. Plain and simple. Problem is, BOTH view that only ONE can be empowered …sadly, the Left ignores that fact that Islam spares NO ONE.

XRMG   January 9th, 2011 - 8:39 am

The Main Stream Minions…WOW!, If there is any doubt that they think we have the memory of a goldfish and the IQ of a tomato, their current behavior over this matter should help clarify things.

Just a couple of links to highlight their complete and utter BS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbeq6Rt6Z0&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqwurTqX4pA

tiredofit2012   January 9th, 2011 - 8:44 am

"dependency is your hallmark and anonymous bile is the last shard of your connection to humanity. "

and even that is rejecting him…so sad…

Harlo   January 9th, 2011 - 8:50 am

Jared's favorite books are Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto — same books Van Jones and other people in the white house love reading. I don't know anyone who has read these books. I would suspect that the same people who read those books are probably behind Jared's actions.

DrEdu   January 9th, 2011 - 8:53 am

The Left has to say something…
…After all they have to distract and -once again- they (the wolves) will try to don sheep apparels.

The fact is that neither the Tea Party, nor Governor Palin, nor President Bush, nor any other Conservative politician or Talk Show host has engaged in violent rhetoric.

It is the Liberals who have done it AND STILL DO IT. Case in point the using of this horrendous crime in a attempt to blame Patriots.

From the Hollywood idiots to Pelosi and Reid…they all have engaged in HATE SPEECH since 2002.
Short of actual murder, Pelosi and Reid carried out the ultimate act of violence against the American people with the imposition of ObamaCare.

WE THE PATRIOTS DO NOT CONDONE OR ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE….BUT WE INSIST IN THE LIBERALS OBEYING OUR CONSTITUTION.

68truthseeker   January 9th, 2011 - 8:57 am

Jeff Kuhner on Obama's Eligibility; Media Privately Admit Serious Constitutional Crisis – 1/6/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4lUIOEssYs

Harlo   January 9th, 2011 - 8:57 am

One 2nd I was reading his MySpace Page and the next moment it was gone. I thought that exact thing — was it removed before it could prove that the Tea Party had nothing to do with this? The damage in the lame-stream media has already been done with their accusations that this was someone on the right. All the usual suspects have accused the Tea Party but they should be looking for the likes of Van Jones and Bill Ayers.

USAfirst   January 9th, 2011 - 8:57 am

well they (liberal media) fell into lock step so quickly

Harlo   January 9th, 2011 - 9:00 am

Yes, we've seen some of the left's peaceful (not!) organized civil disobediance in Greece, France, Great Britain and Italy.

Pobbo©®™   January 9th, 2011 - 9:04 am

Fox News – 11 am EST – reports that Loughner may be linked to an anti-Semitic group. (American Renaissance) – also from DHS report – Loughner's mother worke(s)(d) for the county supervisors office.

Who would have guessed it…

Harlo   January 9th, 2011 - 9:05 am

Isn't MSNBC alluding to violence/revolution? Shouldn't Holder get someone over there and arrest them?

NOQTR4TR8RS   January 9th, 2011 - 9:16 am

Bravo!

twistin   January 9th, 2011 - 9:21 am

This miscreant will turn out to be a "White Power", Neo-Nazi type of azzhole. His favorite video on YouTube was a burning American Flag.

Show me a Tea Party member who would BURN AN AMERICAN FLAG.

This has nothing whatever to do with the Tea Party. The left is a flock of scumsuckers.

ThunderOnDeLeft   January 9th, 2011 - 9:21 am

The very minute I heard of the shooting I thought the left is going to tie the right into this shooting somehow. Then I when I read that the victim was a Democratic I said to the wife that the left is going to come out and say that this is because of the radio talk show host. Gee – I could of guessed a 100 other democrats that would have been targeted first before this lady. It didn't take them long eh? Communist manifesto???

Jared Lee Loughner, identified today as the shooter responsible for the mass shooting this morning in Tucson which took the life of federal court judge and Bush appointee John Roll and critically injured Democrat U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords, lists The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf among his favorite books, calls himself a terrorist, and indicates he has no religious views.

yossarian22   January 9th, 2011 - 9:24 am

Anytime a loon from the left or right does some heinous act, it is blamed on Conservatives, the Tea Party, talk radio. Similiarly, any type of weather from blazing heat to frigid cold, from an active hurricane season to a dormant hurricane season, from dry conditions to blizzards, all blamed on global warming.
We have reached a point where it does not matter what the truth is, any event will be spun to further an agenda.

larrygrant876   January 9th, 2011 - 9:29 am

Yeah Pobbo,
I have been wondering what a guy like Bill Ayers and his loving wife Bernadine Dorhn would be teaching our easily influenced children at the University of Chicago. Maybe those educations are starting to produce results?

DarthShatner   January 9th, 2011 - 9:34 am

"Who's ass do I need to kick"?

clarityinla   January 9th, 2011 - 9:38 am

Well I am personally connected to deadly violence from the Teamsters–I never called it terrorism before. But ELF is the group that was setting Hummers on fire at dealerships here in California.

But the thing is, the shooter was crazy, and I doubt he was involved in the Tea Party, but as a rule, having been to a Tea Party, I would hardly call that group terrorists!

It may be true that there is fiery political rhetoric going on, but that has been true throughout our history as a nation. Have you ever watched the British parliament in session?

I would argue that anyone who goes intentionally murders innocent citizens, in the name of ANY political group, is insane. If there is another person involved in this and this crazy kid was following his orders, then that other person was taking advantage of a mentally ill person.

What we should be debating is how we can get severely emotionally disturbed people off the streets so that they are unable to carry out rampages like the one yesterday.

larrygrant876   January 9th, 2011 - 9:40 am

The left (communists) has been hoping for something to happen from the Right but all of the barney fifes among 'em keep jumping offsides to early, and it's up to us to make sure we don't. Be assured they are losing yardage, as well as their minds. They are selling a product no one wants and all this hoopla is a responce of rejection from us and them trying to force a buy anyway.

DarthShatner   January 9th, 2011 - 9:41 am

No…. pot smoking loners who have the communist manifesto rolled up in their back pocket dont support small government, lower taxes, and more personal responsibility.

Open your eyes… that kid fits the profile of a progressive liberal.

Berlet98a   January 9th, 2011 - 9:42 am

Mayhem in Tucson I: Liberals Attack, Conservatives Pray

Before the dust had settled in the Tucson, Arizona parking lot, the professional leftists were hard at work trying to pin responsibility for the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords on everyone from the Tea Party to Sarah Palan to defenders of the Second Amendment to anyone who even vaguely supported conservative principles.

Giffords was severely wounded by a pistol shot through the brain. U.S. District Court Judge John Roll and five others, including a 9 year old girl, Christina Taylor Green, were senselessly murdered and 12 others were injured in the mayhem, allegedly by 22 year old Jared Loughner.

Americans’ prayers should go out to the families of the dead and for the prompt recovery of the wounded, including Rep. Giffords who initially was believed to have died in the shootings and now seems to have a fighting chance to survive.

Leftists aren’t much into prayer or anything else positive and, as in the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing r. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=3359)

FilmBuff4Ever   January 9th, 2011 - 9:47 am

- I’m somewhat amazed at those already blaming others for the actions of the nut job shooter. It’s far too easy to blame the actions of a criminal on those they disagree with rather than the actual perpetrator of the crime…

Eileen for Freedom   January 9th, 2011 - 9:49 am

PART I –

Listen up…all…This young man…and this young man alone did this despicable act of violence. It was no more the fault of anything that anyone said political than all the violence he has viewed throughout his life on the tv and in the movies, in cartoons and in the video games he would have played that killed and mained and influenced a very disturbed young man.

Eileen for Freedom   January 9th, 2011 - 9:49 am

PART II –

As they delve deeper into his psyche, perhaps they will discover a young man that did not fit in…while others around him did…including the illegals in the Arizona area. Do you think, perhaps, he was upset that they were getting preference when he did not…and he resented it and added it to the 'poor me' syndrome he already felt? Do you think that maybe that was why he had sought out his own representative who wanted to help the illegals?

Eileen for Freedom   January 9th, 2011 - 9:49 am

PART III –

You cannot…cannot regulate the free speech of Americans. It is our right by our Constitution to say and do whatever we please as long as it is within the laws of our land! If you want to stop me from complaining about what is happening in Washington…then you better start to regulate TV/Movies, Cartoons, textbooks, etc. against all violence and evil that exists in the world….they are the biggest culprits of destroying the minds of our children not the patriotic efforts of the adults in America who are fighting to keep their freedoms!
I read nothing on these sites where the 'real' Americans (called tea partiers) are promoting the rhetoric of which you write and they speak! But I have read hundreds of comments against us 'real' Americans and how this is our fault!

Eileen for Freedom   January 9th, 2011 - 9:50 am

PART IV –

'Real' Americans fight for our rights, the rights of our children and our Republic and it's Constitution with our voices and with our votes…and not with guns and bombs! That is OUR way!

As to that Sheriff and Senator Lopez…they need to be held responsible for their inexcusable attacks against us…in a public platform. They have accused all of inflaming the situation, when they are the biggest culprits in inflamiing the issue when they stand and say that the 'tea party' people were in so many words responsble…that was irresponsible!

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