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Where does that leave the death toll from the indiscriminate use of these “non lethal” weapons?

I will hazard a guess that the autopsy report on this man will find the cause of death to have been “excited delirium,” that undefined medical condition that seems to afflict only people who have died after electrocution by tasers.

Hi Sue,

Due to my work in high voltage, I am fairly expert in high voltage shock effects and electrocution.
I can guarantee you that I can kill anyone with a standard police issue tazer. One of the doctors that found the process killed himself during his own testing. But before I waste my time, where or what do you base you information on?

Tasers have become a toy for lawmen. After one shot,if they can’t do the job, get another.

Blogger1947, you’re a fool. Nobody has ever died as a direct result of being Tasered. In fact, countless policemen get Tasered on purpose, to see what it feels like. It’s also been demonstrated repeatedly on people who get paid to do it. They’re fine.

The only people who’ve died after getting Tasered were people who had a drug problem or some other defect.

It’s not Law Enforcement’s job to do a medical & psych workup on these perps.

Sounds like you’ve had a close encounter with LE at some point, and you’re bitter. Tough.

The police in this country have gotten completely out of control over the last ten years! Something has GOT to be done to stop them!

Sue,

Thanks for attempting to sound empathetic, insincere as it is.

FYI, I have had a number of “close encounters” with LE in my sixty years. The most frightening one was when I was a kid. My father and I were on a ride-along in the back of a patrol car, looking for someone who’d sideswiped Dad’s car and wrecked it pretty badly. A 10-13 call came across the radio, and the next thing I knew, we were in the middle of a gun fight, with “our” policeman using the car as cover, firing over the hood while we were still in the back seat (on the floorboards).

That’s probably not the worst experience I’ve had with police, either.

But your amateur psychoanalysis is beside the point. As a competitive shooter and firearms safety instructor, I have come to know dozens of police officers. Most have been “stand-up” folks, but there are always a few out there who are unsuited for the work.

As for my original comment on this killing, you ought to do some research on the term “excited delirium,” which appears to have been invented as a CYA in cases where people have been killed in Taser incidents. You might also review the video of the take-down of that Polish man in the Vancouver airport. First thing I noticed is that of the LEOs who were on the scene, not ONE attempted to resuscitate the guy after he’d stopped breathing.

I have worked around broadcast transmitters, and I have a healthy respect for high voltage, having once received a 400 volt DC jolt right across my chest. It is a cop-out to say the people who died after Taserings had some underlying medical condition. After all, people have survived having their head run over by a truck, but that doesn’t make it OK.

The fact that the Taser is so highly touted as being LTL seems to have created a trigger happy mentality where the police are concerned. If a cop is going to approach me and offer force, I would much prefer he was pointing a gun, because he will be more likely to stop and think before pulling the trigger.

In any event, being part of the cause of someone’s death is never morally neutral, except in the cozy little world of anonymous posters on the Internet.

BTW, Sue. While I have never been “tasered,” I did have to stand unprotected in a room clouded with CS tear gas. I survived, but I wouldn’t stand in line for the opportunity to do it again.

lets see if the Bart here has the guts to dig this video out…

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-copbeat22_bothjan22,1,1505243.story

“sue” is a retarded c*** shill…

Don’t bother with her. God will send her off to Satan, and Satan will…

After hearing of these incidents with Tasers over and over again, I think I would rather be incapacitated with a well-placed gunshot to the shoulder. I would probably have a better chance surviving that, sheesh.

Also, whatever happened to Pepper Spray? Isn’t that ever used anymore? I think that still stands a pretty good chance of stopping an unarmed person without killing him or her. At least they wouldn’t be able to see well enough to do anything.

SKD,

Up until a decade or so ago, police carried a wooden club–the “night stick”. Here in Baltimore (and hardly anywhere else) this device was known as an “espantoon.”

In particular, the coppers who walked a beat were quite proficient with this tool. You’d hear them talk about how they could bring down a person who was running away by throwing the night stick and tripping them. The espantoon had a lanyar on it, and foot patrolmen would amuse themselves by twirling the club while walking. Eventually some so-called civil rights activists decided this twirling business was intimidating and had to stop. The wooden club has largely been replaced by either a collapsable baton or that metal pipe with a side-handle. Both of those tools are far more injurious when they have to be used, and don’t have the advantage of being throwable.

So you could say that the civil rights weenies brought about an escalation, which has led to pepper spray, Tasers and God knows what.

But the nature of the policeman’s job has changed too. Time was they were called “peace officers,” and especially in urban areas, the copper’s job was to become intimately familiar with his beat, so as to know tell what was normal from what was suspicious. He’d know the people, especially shopkeepers, and their normal patterns. A positive relationship existed between the cop and members of the public.

Now they’ve militarized the police forces, put nearly everyone in cars, and it’s rare for a cop to know what to expect when called on a complaint. Naturally, this makes the cops more suspicious, wary and defensive. I had a business for some years in a neighborhood that had foot patrols. The guys there knew more or less what they could expect from anybody they were likely to encounter; knew that some people had quirks that were harmless enough if ignored, etcetera.

Now a police call is riskier for everyone, because when The Law shows up, the idea is to take total control of everything, do the paperwork and move on to the next problem.

I know retired coppers who say they would be scared to death to be stopped for a traffic violation by the types that mostly man the police departments nowadays.

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