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America…all you have to do is watch HGTV programs about “first time home buyers”, etc. to find out where the problem lies on these foreclosures!
Time after time after time when viewing these programs about first time home buyers…the majority of them went to buy a home for the first time and did not have to have a down payment to do so!
At the end of the shows they show how much they paid, what interest they paid and what their monthly payment would be!
Most times…their monthly payments were $1500 and up!
America…I could not even imagine coming up with this kind of money on a monthly basis! And that will only go up from there because taxes go up and it is reflected in your monthly payment.
So I watch these young, naive couples buying huge homes! And they not only bought huge homes…they wanted 4-5 bedrooms…on suite…baths…media rooms, etc.
What…what…what?
When my parents started out, when we started out…when we went to buy a house…we were ecstatic to get 3 or 4 bedrooms and maybe 2 baths…nothing fancy…nothing huge…just a home for our families that we could call our own!
Today…these kids want more than we could ever dreamed later in our years to buy!
And they sacrificed nothing in putting away money to purchase a house in the future.
Many of them were not even married…but were about to be married and wanted to buy their first home before the wedding!
What…what…what? When my parents and I got married, we lived in an apartment we could never even dream to purchase a home at that time until we had been married several years and “saved” for a down payment.
Now…these same young people who put no money down and bought these huge homes…cannot afford the payments!
And since they put no money in…they can easily walk away!
Most people who have saved anywhere from $10,000 to $35,000 and put it into a down payment on a home are not about to walk away from their investment!
That is what the problem is…these loans should have never, ever be granted to someone who had not made a sacrifice to purchase them!
Everybody should not own a home…everybody cannot own a home!
It takes sacrifice and it takes commitment and it takes alot of money to own a home!
So don’t punish the rest of America…who did it the right way…by now making us pay for their mistakes.
They need to learn the hard way…and without anymore help…they have had enough help!
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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!
1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED
DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!
HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE LEFT, AMERICA?
The millions and millions of people that took out subprime loans did tie up enough money to cause a problem. That is Moore’s idiotic contention.
Economists says otherwise.
Moore is trying to rewrite history again.
I purchased a home in 2005. I read every word of the contract and the mortgage broker answered any questions. Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae’s paperwork required a record of every penny I had. I also had to show employment records to show how I expected to earn money to pay for the home. They were asking me how short my hem was and requiring proof of it.
How about some context – homeowners are like rape victims in that right wing dickwads like Hannity put the blame squarely on them, the victim, for causing the financial collapse, just like other right wing dickbags like O’Reilly blame rape victims for wearing short skirts.
We should impeach Obama for this comment.
And speaking of rape – what do you dickbags have to say about the 30 GOP Senators who just TODAY voted AGAINST giving rape victims the chance to take their attackers to court. Jeff Sessions called it a “political attack”. Let’s hear all you ignorant apologists defend this one. GO!
Moore is a lying phony Communist who’s is making millions trying to push Communism for the World…he’s such a Hypocrite that I can smell him from my house many miles away.
Saying lying phony people…even illegals… who took out Home loans due to the pressure of ACORN and the Libs in D.C. on banks to offer this insanity..knowing they can’t pay for it… WERE Raped when they had their homes repossessed by the big bad banks..is a typical LEFTIST Response..top the realities behind this crisis.
Look at Detroit yesterday…Thousands of the very same people waited in lines to get FREE OBAM STIMULUS money for ..free Rent…Free Homes…Free utility bill money…and 98% were bl@ck just as 98% of the people who took the Sub-prime loans were…That’s why they voted for their Messiah Obama…to get EVERYTHING FREE!!!!!!!
Moore is an EVIL MAN…he used Jesus himself to LIE!
Please vote ALL Dems out from every level of GOVT come 2010 and their Lying Communist Messiah Obama in 2012…if you want to save this great country from COMMUNISM.
CrackHead In Philly, remove your head from your arse and clean out your ears. Nothing you say is accurate. So OReilly blamed rape victims for wearing short skirts? No, what he wisely said is that a girl should not be walking the streets alone at 3 friggin AM in the morning, you filthy tuurd. No matter how many clothes she has on, YOU MORON.
But perhaps Crackhead, you would entice your daughters to walk the streets at 3AM alone. Perhaps you, Crackhead, think that this is a wise action.
I guess CrackHead in Philly is too stupid to read a loan contract without some help.
Crackhead in Philly, I heard that it was 100 Dem Senators that voted against rape victims being able to go to court. Perhaps you can set us straight by actually posting the facts instead of your god damned deluded version of reality.
I hate to say it, but it was a very interesting debate between Hannity and Moore.
I’m not a Moore fan, but he did have some legitimate points that had Hannity reeling–although I do believe Hannity was better and had the better arguments.
It was great to see two guys, from extreme sides of the spectrum, actually speak about the issues–and it showed glimpses into the thought process of those on the far left and how the logic runs on that side. I hope more of the interview will be released, and while I’ll never be a Moore fan I do respect him for going on the show and having an honest discussion.
kmike said “I heard it was 100 Dem Senators…”
Wow, when did we get the entire Senate?? AWESOME!
You’re a clown.
To the highly stupid individual in Philly, kmichaels is correct it was 100 Dems in the senate. But then again stupidity rules your liberal world, so now you GO!
This was the part of the segment that I thought was pretty pathetic on Michael’s part. He actually suggested that poor minorities should be exempt from having to read contracts because they are. . . .poor minorities (aka, stupid). Are there any POOR MINORITIES who are offended by that??? Victimizing POOR MINORITIES by portraying them as unable to perform a simple task like entering into a contract and reading the fine print is typical of the Democrat mindset. When will POOR MINORITIES wake up and realize that the Democrats don’t think much of them? It’s the same reason Democrats want the government to fund and promote Planned Parenthoods in POOR MINORITY neighborhoods. Democrats want POOR MINORITIES to stop producing so they will lessen the burden on social programs – - Nancy Pelosi even said so! Eugenicist Margaret Sanger lives on in the Democrat Party! Check out the movie, MAAFA 21.
Why did you post a link to a vote on legislation concerning Halliburton? Do you need help with using the internet?
CK in Philly,
Tell me how this relates to what you’re rambling on about:
“To prohibit the use of funds for any Federal contract with Halliburton Company, KBR, Inc., any of their subsidiaries or affiliates, or any other contracting party if such contractor or a subcontractor at any tier under such contract requires that employees or independent contractors sign mandatory arbitration clauses regarding certain claims.”
In case you’re wondering, that’s the statement of purpose for the Amendment you are strongly misleading people about – S.Amdt. 2588 to H.R. 3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010)
Hey didn’t Bobby Knight get in a whole heap of trouble for making analogies to rape? Where the outrage here?
Moore is a scumbag. Nothing more.. nothing less.
CK do you bother reading anything?
“To prohibit the use of funds for any Federal contract with Halliburton Company, KBR, Inc., any of their subsidiaries or affiliates, or any other contracting party if such contractor or a subcontractor at any tier under such contract requires that employees or independent contractors sign mandatory arbitration clauses regarding certain claims.”
The thing about Moore on Hannity is that is was not your typical drooling more, since he toned down his usual routine.
It was the typical Hannity though, nothing different about him here or giving a speech somewhere.
However, when the real Moore let’s loose, then you get to see the truly profane and obscene nature of that man.
As kmicheals said, she SHOULD be able to walk alone at 3 a.m. but the facts are, that she can’t. So, it would be damned foolish for her to do so.
Listen, like I said, that drooling Crackhead in Philly has his own version of reality. It comes from dope, and evil dealings with satan. That guy is so far gone that nothing will convince him. He sees the word Halliburton and thinks rape, he sees the word contract and he hears racist codewords. The guy is a known lunatic. Don’t try to reason with him. Just keep him away from the kids and your garbage cans.
How about this Headline:
Michael Moore says: IF you’re poor, you’re STUPID.
Each person is explained what EACH page they are initialling or signing is for.
A women should be able to walk down the streets of Philly at 3AM without being raped by some lunatic calling himself CJ in Philly, but she would be a damn fool if she trusted that lunatic.
Moore: Poor people are too stupid to understand them thar contract thingies.
Moore has a point though. That stupid dweeb CK in Philly thinks that the word contract means rape and that ‘loan’ means blacks need not apply.
And CK thinks that the word percentage means how many millions of dollars the government owes you for not forcing you to finish school.
38 years ago my wife and I both worked 2 jobs each. We saved everything except paying for the essentials. I drove a 15 year old car and wore the same boots for 3 years while we saved. I would have worn them longer but our dog eat the top half of one boot down to the heel. Bologna sandwichs and peanut butter were the main staple. We put 10 thousand dollars down on a $37000 dollar home. We live with the same frugality that helped send 2 kids thru college and pay the house off 8 years early. There are people unwillig to sacrifice to get what they want.
This is like Michael forgoing his daily dozen (of doughnuts).
Eat up, Michael. Scumbag.
CK in Philly, what does that vote (re: use of contractor funds) have to do with rape victims?
Also, yes, your daughter SHOULD be able to walk anywhere, anytime without being raped. However, we live in the real world where evil exists and certain places at certain times are more dangerous. That in NO WAY excuses a moron who victimizes another human being, and it makes the rape victim no less an innocent victim, it just makes it a situation that may have been avoided with more cautious awareness.
Although I can’t stand Michael Moore the “millionair commie” and I do have sympathy for homeowners who’ve lost their homes from unemployment,I have no sympathy for homeowners who grabbed big bags of money out from their equity while spending it on TV’s,hookers,fancy cars(that are worth 1/3 of the value in 3 years) and many other shortsighted purchases.
Many gambled on perpetually rising home values and they lost and now they just may lose their homes.
Live and learn.
I watched the interview. When michael givememoorefood said that I couldn’t believe it. It is totally offensive. Besides, it didn’t make any sense.
Put this moron in the same category as polanski and david letcherdouche. Pathetic.
dontflagmebro October 7th, 2009 – 1:14 pm
Moore is a s c u m bag. Nothing more.. nothing less.
Not so. He is a greasy looking s c um bag piece of s h i t. If every liberal would pay for one other welfare person’s health care there would be no person without health care and I would save myself some money. Thank you liberals.
CrackHead is inflating the allegations of rape by a Halliburton employee (who has attempted to sue Halliburton, not the perps themselves and is faced with a contractual arbitration agreement with respect to Halliburton, but not the individual perps) with the general, universal crime of rape. The Constitution does not give the federal government any power to limit, preclude, permit, or control whether any State’s law permits a victim of any violent crime to sue the attacker for damages and/or an injunction, in addition to seeking criminal prosecution. Double jeopardy does not apply to such circumstances–e.g., Brown and Goldman v. OJ Simpson, Geimer v. Polanski etc. etc. So, yeah, CrackHead is still a fookin’ idjit. And Michael Moore, ACORN, and Obominable are still tools. And the U.S. public, who work and qualify for loans and pay their debts, are the ones being financially “raped” by out of control, unconstitutional government and its dependent entitlement program slave cadres.
Thank you to all who slammed Crackhead in Philly. I haven’t laughed so good in a long time!
Lumpy’s appearance on Hannity is proof that his movie is tanking. If that bloated porcine toad’s move were doing well, think he’d go anywhere near Fox News?
Moore is so transparently white-guilt ridden. His arguments are ridiculous. Too bad Hannity isn’t smarter. He could have wiped the floor with the Giant Boob.
Only Nixon could go to China and only Fox News could offer Michael Moore his own show. Talk about fair and balanced. A left-wing bomb thrower like Moore would definitely counterbalance Hannity. I thought their discussion was interesting. Hannity and Moore or Moore Hannity?
Michael,
I have been a Mortgage Banker for over 20 years and for 4 of those years I owned a bank and sold to Wall Street and banks did not rape anyone, ( a few Loan officers may have) but the fact is. Politicians (democrats) wanted the banks to loosen lending so more people could have home or the opportunity to try and get one. I believe your friend Barney Frank and his friends at Fannie Mae had more to do with it than anything.
Being a Banker for 20+ years, I think I might know a tad more than you about the industry Mr. Moore. When we give loans we asked for a great deal of info on clients, you would think we would have asked for DNA testing we asked for so much.
I would not say the borrowers got raped, I would say the banks got raped, because Fannie and Freddie lowered their standards for approving loans and what would be sellable or not.
There were loan products that allowed people to STATE their income and STATE their assets ( liar loans) and get a home. How were bankers supposed to help people that would lie on an application when the product all but told them to lie?
The product was not designed so banks could foreclose later and own a bunch of properties to sell later, the product was put out their bay Freddie and Fannie so people could have a chance and because they lied on their app. You say they were raped, by themselves maybe.
Also, it was not subprime as all the media keeps talking about; there was a product called ALT-A and it was for self employed people who made a lot but wrote off everything and would not qualify with the net income (another liar loan) there was a product; If you had a 680 credit score ( I am not kidding) you could have been homeless and gotten a 100% loan.
I had clients or potential clients tell me all the time why their 1st mortgage was on time but they had heard if they don’t pay their 2nd that the bank in 2nd position would not come after them. Are these the same people who you say were raped by banks and because they lied to get a loan from a product that was put out by the government to lie so you could get a loan and yet when it’s time to pay, These same rape victims that were given an opportunity to own a home don’t pay because the income they stated is a lie and the banks are the bad guys.
WOW, you really have no clue about what you’re talking about do you, no wonder your new movie tanked. The rapist is you Michael Moore for thinking your movie is worth 10dollars to see.
Since you care so much and hate capitalism, why don’t you give your money to all the poor who need it and help them keep their homes.
As much as you hate money and people who make it, I could see you giving all yours away.
Sincerely
Todd
I watched this last night. The first five minutes consisted of Hannity hounding Moore about how much money he makes and how his fat ass rides around in chartered jets. Moore was visibly uncomfortable by these questions and would only admit that he has a house in Michigan and an apartment in New York. He obviously doesn’t want his cult-like followers to know that he’s worth about 50 million dollars and doesn’t use union labor when he makes his films. This man is 100% hypocrisy, and in this interview he again repeated his belief that capitalism has done nothing for him. I normally respect another person’s views, even though I may disagree, but Michael Moore is the exception. I want to vomit every time I see this man’s fat, disgusting face on television. MOVE TO CUBA, MIKE.
Mr Moore you will always have my repect and admiration. Your movies have exposed the greedy hater companies that
everyday are stealing money from poor and people of color. Mr Moore you are a shining light among the darkness of
the haters and there precious corporations.
I also hear you are a fan of exotic Ice Creams which I specialize in,
just let Ms Pelosi know if you want to try some and I’m sure she will direct you to me, we have met at Festivals
in the Napa Wine Valley. Hopfully we can meet Mr Moore I belong to 2 Progresive discussion groups and we could be
of help with some ideas with your next movie
So is “Lumpy” Moore contending that Roman Polanski foreclosed on that 13 year old girl’s house- so to speak?
elder, God Bless you. That’s the REAL American dream. Home ownership is a privilege, not a governmental entitlement. Intellect is also a privilege. If someone isn’t smart enough to buy a house, it’s no one’s fault but theirs. Chances are great that many people who cannot read a contract also hated Reading class in school. Nobody screws you but yourself and the government.
You have all (including Hannity) missed the REAL culprits in the mortgage mess: the Clinton administration. They are the ones who passed the laws making it impossible to refuse a mortgage to people who traditionally would never been approved. While it sounds all nice and warm and fuzzy to say they were improving the status in life of all these new home owners, like always, you build a tall enough house of cards, it will eventually fall.
For more than 10 years, lenders stuck with these dirt-bag loans have slid them into packages of attractive loans that other institutions wanted to buy. To get 90 good ones, you had to take 10 crappy ones. Then it was 11 bad ones, then 12 then 13.
Just like mixing impurities into animal feed, it won’t hurt them at first, but before you know it they have mad cow disease.
The Primary responsibility for the mortgage mess is Clinton’s fault. Bush, being a charlatan conservative (RINO?) missed the mark and made his own contribution by NOT undoing Clinton’s mess. Liberal’s made the mess, pseudo republicans ignored the mess and the socialists in power now are tripling the mess.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH!
“The problem with socialism is that eventually yo run out of other people’s money” – Margaret Thatcher
I wonder if that was the right term to use so soon after the Roman Polanski issue.
Hey Michael, how about Polanski??
BTW, it seems that Bill Clinton was Ok with Halliburton having arbitration laws when BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT used Halliburton, with the exact same arbitration requirements then, that they have now. What this bill is is a means for the democrats to have an illegal bill of attainer directed specifically at Halliburton in order to punish Halliburton. It is cheap partisan democrat politics and everyone knows it. There are some serious constitutional issues for companies to be picked out specifically for governmental punishment and governmental abuse. There is nothing illegal or unwise nationwide to have arbitration rules for settling disputes. This saves everyone huge legal fees and ends up with wiser solutions. But since democrats are into kissing laywer’s arse for decades now it does not surprise anyone. Democrats love lawyers making millions off of rape cases and medical cases since of course the lawyers suffered the damage, apparently in spirit only.
I bet he likes it when people get raped, he canmake a film off it. Just like Columbine.
He doesn’t care.
Anybody catch the part where fatf^ck claimed almost in passing that the FBI says mortgage defaulters counted for only 10% of the subprime crisis? I cant find this stat on the FBI website. Does anyone know where he may be getting this stat from aside of course from the usual places like his bloated busted arsehole?
Michael Moore doesn’t believe in a bedrock foundation of America, private
property. He doesn’t get it. He doesn’t understand how capitalism and
private property are what make America the most free country in the world,
and that capitalism is more humane than socialism ever was or could be. His view is the same
held by dictators for hundreds of years: that government will rule the people because the government know what’s best. In exchange, the government will take care of the people, as the government decides. What appeals to Moore is not new, it’s as old as tyrannies which have existed throughout history. He invokes
Christianity to validate his position, but his misunderstands Christian tenets. Mr. Moore,
where in the Bible does it say that in order to help your fellow man, that we are
to give the government the power to FORCE people to help their fellow man? Helping
your fellow men and women is what Jesus wants us to do individually, not through
the government. Mark Tulsa, OK
Maybe your next movie could be about the ignorance of minorities like Ice Cream Rover,and the pathetic lack of education.And why they turn to liberals for man love.Hey obama could be the one to talk about man/man love.
How come nobody has ever mentioned this very interesting fact:
Mr. O’s mommy was ALSO A ‘COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.’ SEEMS IT RUNS IN THE FAMILY.
From all we’ve seen, “community organizing” just means finding some downtrodden group and figuring out how to EXPLOIT THEM all the while you BAMBOOZLE THEM into thinking you are HELPING THEM!
Well, despite what you think of Mr Moore, you have to give him credit in one area. When it comes to a crisis, a tragic event, or some other horrific event Michael Moore will make not only a “buck’ but millions of “bucks”….
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Michael is laughing all the way to the bank….
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THERE IS A GROUP OF (PRIVATE BANKERS) THAT IS CAUSING (((ALL))) OF THIS CHAOS!!! Expose Them, and You Can Get Your Countries …BACK!!!——–> Find Out MORE—-> http://www.infowars.com
Michael Moore is destined to really hate capitalism, for his new movie “Capitalism: A Love Story” appears to have totally flopped at the box office.
This comes despite all the gushing and fawning by Moore-loving media members prior to the film’s October 2nd release.
The fact is that Capitalism: A Love Story looks like its domestic total will fail to crack $20M and end up his worst performing film since his Oscar-winner Bowling For Columbine in 2002.
All together now: aaaaaaaawwwwwww!
I really dislike Michael Moore but he did win this argument against Hannity. They are both one sided but Hannity decided not to inform himself on banking etiquette before the crash. Hedge funds insured CDOs that they had 1/10th the equity to cover if they did indeed default. There was massive fraud here on a leveraged scale that the mind can hardly conceive. Yes politicians greased the wheels to take down bank and yes the Federal Reserve derelicted its duty to stop excess speculation, but the large entities are to blame here; not the simple borrower who prudently walked away from a 100% loan when the house down the street was worth 50% less. Your house is a liability, folks. Learn from economists. Larry Kudlow would have done much better on this interview. Neil Bortz would have done much better. Anyone who understands economics would have been more interesting to listen to. Sean dropped the ball here. We needed someone like Ron Paul; a champion of truth, to debate Moore on his lunatic socialistic concepts. So many people could have utterly destroyed Moore’s socialism concepts, but I have to give Moore credit in bringing more facts to the table than Hannity. Sad. Very sad. Hannity you get a big black eye for this. Shame on you for letting us down. Stop pervertedly talking about your beautiful staff member and how she should not get married today. It’s creepy.
PHUK YOU MICHAEL MOORE, AND THE BANKS!
I heard Mr Moore was in town, so I whiped up a batch of double fudge packer supreme, with extra
cocoa butter fat, just the way he likes it.
Hey ladies, How would you like this guy grunting on top of you?
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This guy is pathetic, okay, so if a person moved into a house, they KNEW they could not afford, ie hey I make $25,000 a year, lets buy a $200,000 house. Now that they can’t afford the payments it’s all of our faults? I think not. If he is so righteous why doesn’t he donate all profits from his movie to help people buy and/or stay in their houses. If all of libtard Hollywood rallied around him we could abolish homelessness and poverty in no time. But naturally, you can’t even get liberals to pay taxes let alone support their own causes they feel like forcing on the rest of us.