McCain Agrees With Palin on ‘Death Panel’ Concerns

"There was a provision in the bill that talks about a board that would decide 'most effective measures' to provide health care for people, okay?"

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August 23, 2009 at 10:40 am - ABC News
Dateline: Grand Canyon, AZ
H2K   August 23rd, 2009 - 11:24 am

Maybe McCain is starting to wake up a little bit now that he sees the results of his “compromise and capitulation” campaign in 2008.
As far as the death panels? That’s what it says in HR3200. It may not use the exact words “death panel”, but it describes what it is. Obviously conservatives have a superior reading comprehension than liberals.

Dan   August 23rd, 2009 - 11:30 am

Stephenopoulas actually tries to get McCain to agree with him by siding with Obama. What did they teach you in journalism school…..oh, you didn’t go to journalism school? That’s right, you came from the Clinton administration. Why even appear on these so called “news” shows? They are irrelevant. Stephenopoulas is another useful idiot! ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN are a disgrace to this country. I used to work for all of these networks as a subcontractor(25 years). I was proud to work for them, but as time went on, I realized how the talking heads and management actually believed they were gods and the engineers were afraid of them. Dan Rather was the most arrogant. (I remember the chanting “Dan Rather sucks” at the Superdome for the RNC convention in ‘87 in response to a stupid comment he made.) And Ted Turner had all of his employees afraid of him (you could even be fired if he caught you with a styrofoam cup…I kept a few on my dashboard to show disdain for TT). When I worked during the Bush 41 period, most kept their politics to themselves. During Clinton, we were disgusted. During Bush 43, it seemed everone was proud, but the gods were silent. I can only wonder what it is like now….. SHAMEFUL!

JameS   August 23rd, 2009 - 11:33 am

McCain is tiptoeing like crazy around the issue, to try not to offend the loony far right extremist who have taken over the Republican party.

Norm   August 23rd, 2009 - 11:41 am

Dan, good stories, thanks.

I like best the one about Ted Turner and the styrafoam cups. That’s a pretty brazen attitude for a guy who had a styrafoam wife.

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Murray   August 23rd, 2009 - 12:04 pm

If McCain’s flunkies (and at election time he was on his third, or something, set of flunkies) but if his flunkies had put solid support behind Palin, McCain would likely be President today.

And H2K I believe that you’ve assessed it correctly.

dontflagmebro   August 23rd, 2009 - 12:18 pm

McCain thanks but times up. He told that lady she was crazy. Well.. almost everything she said has come true. He said he would make a great President of the United States. Well…?

George   August 23rd, 2009 - 12:33 pm

What do they think will happen down the road when this program is hundred of billions if not trillions over budget? Rationing, plain and simple. It is inevitable. The fact that the bill doesn’t spell it out and openly call for “death panels” is irrelevant. Panels and or legislation outlining acceptable procedures and who will qualify or not for them will evolve. In effect, that will make them literal death panels as they will decide who lives and dies. For Democrats and Democrat politicians to deny this is disingenuous in the extreme

"Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"   August 23rd, 2009 - 1:50 pm

Check-out this scene from the movie Soylent Green:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJTBBoDFH0

The way ‘Sol goes home’ seems more likely now than it did in ‘73….and it says EVERYTHING there’s to know about 0 – B – A – M – A – C – A – R – E…

Now, I do my part and eat an-apple-a-day, but that’s not enough to keep Dr. 0bama away! And I haven’t picked my favorite color or music yet- HAVE YOU???

john m   August 23rd, 2009 - 1:51 pm

I believe Sarah P over Barack “let’s have an honest discussion” Obama.

I answered an independent phone survey and when they asked me
if I believed B. Obama tells the truth I started laughing.

What a joke we have for President. Years of experience including
“community organizing”.

I do give him some cred for foreign policy (staying in Iraq and keeping Gitmo).
but he is a comedy routine here at home.

And Joe Biden is the second act…..ha ha

Timothy Shaw-Zak   August 23rd, 2009 - 2:24 pm

Very well stated Mr. McCain. We know very well in a culture obsessed with youth, sexually coarsened yet naive to the meaning of the birds and the bees, we cannot rely on bureaucratic authorities to look after our interests when we are old. There is a narrowing range over which human life has value. The very young and the very hold are on the chopping block.

Beware of the truncation of human life, because the consequence cannot be eluded even by those in their so-called “prime”.

kmichaels   August 23rd, 2009 - 2:40 pm

Rationing is a natural part of any limited resource. The key difference with a government monopoly however is that rationing is based on what the government decides for everyone, instead of rationing being based on those that work harder get to skip out on the rationing end of things. Not enough bread at the bakery? The baker raises the costs, and those with the dough (pardon the pun) get to buy the bread. Under government bakeries, those that sell their votes for the least amount of money get to share the rewards of labor for those that actually do the work.

dontflagmebro   August 23rd, 2009 - 2:59 pm

Yea the lady was just a bit uneducated and probably a tad afraid of Islam. But I bet she’s somewhere watching the Farsi version of the Ramadan with her jaw dropping to the floor in a giant I told you so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU9xZ4zcss

Drs. Zira, Zaius and "Zeke"....with two of 'em, things'll be bleak!   August 23rd, 2009 - 3:28 pm

WHITE HOU$E CHIEF-OF-$TAFF Rahm Emanuel’s younger brother “Zeke” Emanuel, MD, PhD, is a National Institute of Health “BI0-ETHICI$T” (sounds like an oxyMORON)…

More importantly (and harmful to Americans) is the fact that Dr. “Zeke” Emanuel AL$O ACT$ A$ THE WHITE HOU$E $PECIAL ADVI$OR on Health Care to PRE$IDENT 0BAMA A$$I$TING him (and the OMB) on HOW TO $PEND ZZZILLION$ OF OUR FEDERAL BUDGET DOLLAR$$$….B-I-N-G-O!!!

Earlier this year, Dr. “Zeke” co-wrote an article advocating an ALLOCATION $Y$TEM ‘coined’ (pun intended) “THE COMPLETE LIVE$ $Y$TEM”… I’m NOT making thi$ $h!t up….Quoting Dr. “Zeke” from his article:

“Allocation of scarce medical interventions such as organs and vaccines is a persistent ethical challenge. We evaluate eight simple allocation principles classified into four categories: treating people equally, favouring the worst-off, maximising total benefits, and promoting and rewarding social usefulness… We evaluate three systems: the United Network for Organ Sharing points systems, quality-adjusted life-years, and disability-adjusted life-years. We recommend an alternative system—the complete lives system—which prioritises younger people who have not yet lived a complete life, and also incorporates prognosis, save the most lives, lottery, and instrumental value principles… Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years. Treating 65-year-olds differently because they have already had more life-years is not ageist… When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”

Huhhh? W-T-F???

Well, NO THANK YOU Dr. “Zeke”….and KEEP “your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty BI0-ETHICI$T!”

Planet Of The Apes – “Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdSXfPl8vY&feature=related

Rosetta Bailey   August 23rd, 2009 - 3:46 pm

McCain blows like the wind blows, whichever benefits him or makes him look like he knows what he is talking about. He lost the election and his campaign committee did Sarah Palin dirty. He is not a trustful person he only says what benefits him and (I voted for him) since he was the better of the two evils.

He is and was jealous of Sarah Palin. She was the more popular and people gravitated toward her more. He should step down as he is not a “real” conservative or a real republican. Anymore than he was a husband to his first wife, whom he dropped like a hot cake when he saw he could marry money.

I have no respect for John McCain.

George mellow   August 23rd, 2009 - 4:25 pm

StephenPOOPalous your bias is showing. Did your best buddy Rahm give you a pep talk?

I'M A CON-servative   August 23rd, 2009 - 5:25 pm

Tlhis man has congressional insurance paid for by the taxpayers and if he doesn’t like that he has his rich wife. This windbag gave us Sara Palin as second in command if something happened to him. And I haven’t forgotten this doddering old fool picked the infamous UBS go to guy Phil Gramm for his economic advisor because he said economics wasn’t his strong suit. No McCain just let’s his rich wife take care of him or the taxpayer and wants to deny Americans what we pay for. He’s out of touch and didn’t care about his selection for the vice presidency Palin. His selfish actions has proved he has no CREDIBILITY JUST FULL OF HIMSELF, time to change his diapers. Cindy?

Smoothie   August 23rd, 2009 - 5:31 pm

Shut-up McCain. You showed the world what poor judgment you have when you picked a functional illiterate to be one heartbeat away from the leader of the free world. We dropped “the McCain option” back in November 2008.

The OFFICER   August 23rd, 2009 - 5:31 pm

This man is no hero. He was arrogant and reckless, which is why he ended up in a North Vietnamese prison camp, and he has not changed on iota since. He knows that he would have put this nation in jeopardy with his pick of Sarah Palin; his campaign staff knows it and had the good sense and honesty to, directly or indirectly, admit this to the American people. He should have resigned his Senate seat when he lost the election, but he chose to hang on. Why? If you listen to his concession speech you might say to serve as a member of the LOYAL opposition. Instead, he serves as dead weight, drag, on any reasonable and absolutely necessary reforms to the health care system, the defense contracting system, and just about anything else one can name. He is a disgrace and will be remembered as such when he passes from this earth. The first line of his epitaph will invoke Keating, the second will invoke Palin, and the third will invoke his POW status, having been shot down due to his own hubris. Unlike the latter day Barry Goldwater, Bill Proxmire, Paul Simon, and Ted Kennedy (whose name should never be sullied by passing from McCain’s lips), this man will not be missed by anyone, probably including his wives and his own children.

Tiny Tim   August 23rd, 2009 - 5:41 pm

The Status Quo is NOT going to win this time Grandpa and neither did you. Now go on back to your room!

Get real for once!   August 23rd, 2009 - 6:01 pm

Poor John. First he brings that twit, Palin, forward, then he tries to hide her, and now he is trying to play the middle by half-heartedly “agreeing” with her. There are no “death panels” and never were any. These decisions are made every day now. What do you do with a patient whose prognosis is grim? Do you keep pumping him or her full of chemicals to keep them going for a few more months? Why? Regardless of what happens, this will remain the same. Those with money can afford the latest treatments; those who don’t can’t. But Republicans can’t have it both ways. You can’t squawk about bankrupting Medicare, Medicaid, or any other government health program and then say that denying patients who have no hope of recovery additional, costly medical care is an immoral death panel.

Dave, Tn   August 23rd, 2009 - 6:03 pm

I’M A CON-servative August 23rd, 2009 – 5:25 pm
Smoothie August 23rd, 2009 – 5:31 pm
The OFFICER August 23rd, 2009 – 5:31 pm

his epitaph will invoke Keating? You mean when he went along with 4 corrupt democrats? Yeah you’d think maybe he would have learned a lesson from that one. As for Teddy Kennedy the Lady in the Lake is waiting on that waste of time.

To the rest of your spoon fed talking points……………. Joe Biden L(obama seal)L

chipluck   August 23rd, 2009 - 6:46 pm

I don’t trust mccain he let his campaign trash and did not respond he and his big mouth daughter need to shut up

Roger   August 24th, 2009 - 2:20 am

MC Cain needs to go visit the death panel himself with Specter,Hatch, Kennedy & Dodd. Enough of these good ole boys that have been in the senate for over thirty years talking about solving crap.!!!
We need a congress that represents again, not a self absorbed power hungry people yelling change, inclucing obama, dang and the rest of the senators including the Baily-Hutchinson lady that cant even decide what her last name is…. Get rid of them all!! And quit blaming california where I am from! I know Diane&Barbra suck, but what the hell can I do about it now!! No more finger pointing! you pawns on the east coast have more senators than the 2 I have in California

Lets start a senate death panel!!

Now

Larse   August 24th, 2009 - 4:08 pm

McCain might be a problem for the GOP in 2010. He keeps reminding people of how stupid the GOP is. It looks like Palin is long gone, but McCain could keep on going for years and years…

It might be best for the GOP to dump McCain with the Democrats like they did with Specter. If the GOP goes for a far tight stance in 2010, McCain will just drag them down. The far right GOP will have to free itself off all the RINOs and and give a clear super right stance. A guy like McCain, who was born 1100 miles south of Texas, is one person they will need to get rid of or he will just embarrass the Birthers.

nw316   August 27th, 2009 - 6:43 pm

G. Stephanopolis – a true viper. He can look you straight in the eye while he’s lying and dare you to challenge you to call him on it.

SPiHC   August 28th, 2009 - 4:36 pm

My favorite line from the interview,”MCCAIN: Yes, but I think they’re also concerned because they’re well read, they’re well informed, they’re knowledgeable.”

My grandson forwarded me a great email about this death book, it breaks down the original WSJ Op ED — supporting it with external evidence. http://obamasdeathbook.blogspot.com/

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