Lieberman Sides With Obama Over Rush in Dover Debate

“I think he was there as commander in chief for Americans, I don’t fault him or question his motives at all."

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November 1, 2009 at 9:02 pm - Face the Nation
Dateline: Washington DC
Joe Joe   November 1st, 2009 - 4:42 pm

Well, you can’t always be on the correct side of everything. You keep at it, Joe. One day you will see that the Democrats hate jews and will abandon Israel in short order. They’ll also surrender American sovereignty to the one-world government. Watch Obama try to change the Constitution so he can continue as our Dear Leader beyond the eight years… just watch.

cecil91   November 1st, 2009 - 6:36 pm

The issue is whether he was there. It is about the photgraphy crew making it look like a political stunt. Knowing this president and his political choices, I have no doubt it was a political stunt.

Whatwhatwhat   November 1st, 2009 - 9:51 pm

Telling the truth and not towing the reich wing rethug line will not ingratiate you to your new party Senator.

"the reich wing" hee hee   November 1st, 2009 - 10:07 pm

you mean Obama’s Fourth Reich? Suppress freedom of speech, high-jack the economy, steal elections?

Whatwhatwhat is stupidassholestupidassholestuidasshole!

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Jana   November 1st, 2009 - 10:17 pm

The fact that the press are all over this and have even named the picture ‘capturing’ this “historical moment”- calling it “The Dover Salute” says it all. Bush met regularly with the families of fallen soldiers to comfort them, and never considered allowing the press to photograph these moments.

DA BEARRRS   November 1st, 2009 - 10:26 pm

I went to the funeral of a guy I knew named Tony. Tony was mob-connected, so sudden death doesn’t come as a surprise in that lifestyle. The guy that killed him was his best friend. He spoke at Tony’s funeral and was a pallbearer. He talked about finding the guy that did this, blah blah.
I got the same feeling watching this Obama Photo-Op.

Where are the 40,000 additional troops the military has requested? Maybe those guys wouldn’t be dead today.

The guy that killed Tony supposedly got 50 grand. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and more than a million bucks. I can see why he thinks the Free-Market sucks.

Anyone who doesn’t see that this weakling President is being so easily manipulated by nothing more than a small band of Left-Wing European intellectuals is blind. And that these pathetic gestures ignore the solid steps he could take to possibly prevent Americans returning home dead, but won’t, so he doesn’t have to face the embarrassment of accepting his Peace Prize while at the same time reinforcing our troops in Afghanistan.

Obama is a pathetic wretch.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   November 1st, 2009 - 11:32 pm

America…Leiberman is a moderate “fence sitter” and needs to go!

Clean house…America! We need better men/women than this!

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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!

1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED

DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!

IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!

sunsetsabunch   November 2nd, 2009 - 12:24 am

A photo-op is all it was to bama !!!!

Unchained   November 2nd, 2009 - 12:32 am

Every sympathetic commentator I’ve heard on this says the same thing, “I feel he was there as our president representing the American people blah blah blah” EXACTLY. There’s not even a flicker of a hope that he was there because HE felt any sincere and PERSONAL feelings. We voted for somebody to feel things on our behalf? My *&!@## emotions are the next thing the government’s taking over and going to handle for me from now on?!?

lavoce   November 2nd, 2009 - 1:58 am

Joe ~ With all my heart, I wished I could be proud of that moment, too, but “wishin’ ‘n hopin’ ‘n thinkin’ ‘n prayin’” simply does not make it so – especially in the case of “The Dover Salute” and barry soetoro aka/alias barack hussein obama’s true intent.

One day you offer us hope, the next you muddy the waters, Joe. So, please – remind us once again, how did you vote on TARP? How did you vote on the Stimulus Bill? How are you going to vote on Pelosi’s HEALTHCARE/INSURANCE REFORM BILL? How are you going to vote on CAP ‘N TRADE? Are you coming up for re-election soon?

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Darby   November 2nd, 2009 - 8:03 am

That piece of garbage is not even a legitimate president, how dare you say he’s the commander in chief for Americans! It’s way past time to hit the reset button on our political system.

Bill   November 2nd, 2009 - 8:28 am

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Bill   November 2nd, 2009 - 8:39 am

His dithering on Afganistan is disgraceful. He can’t seem to decide whether to support the recommendations of the experts (the Generals fighting this war) or his so-called advisers (criminal cohorts). His faithful base, however, the ones that have pledged their “un-dying” support for their “Messiah”, will support him to the end.

Check out his appearance in the New York City Halloween parade dressed as himself:
http://www.zombiesforobama.com/

GOP = Gay Old Party   November 2nd, 2009 - 8:47 am

I thought it was a nice photo op… and a little more meaningful than that “Mission Accomplished” photo op, eh?

Jana   November 2nd, 2009 - 12:50 pm

GOP they were two entirely different situations. Bush even regretted that he had done that. However, the media, and press were certainly there in force to shred, and rip Bush for that photo, I doubt any of our state run media would even even consider wandering off of the written script when it comes to Obama.

Smarter Than All You   November 2nd, 2009 - 3:34 pm

You’re all funny with your “revolution” and “impeachment” garbage. Let’s look at some facts:

When people were doing and saying this about Bush, they were un-American and didn’t support the troops and wanted to destroy God and America. But not that that team isn’t in power, the same people who called them un-American are doing it now. Now all the Right Wingers are bashing the President, calling for impeachment, comparing him to Hitler and generally being stupid and uneducated. But are you in the wrong for it? Naw, it’s pro-American if you do it but un-American if you’re the one being protested. How does it feel being a hypocrite? You have no counter argument. It’s that simple. You do it it is American, someone else does it it is un-American.

It’s so funny to see such a large group of what ammounts to sore losers.

Dithering on Afghanistan is disgraceful? Sending troops to Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with us, was disgraceful. Where is your post about that?

They were two entirely different situations? No. You’re trying to justify your team doing something and bashing the other team for doing the same thing. If the photo of him saluting returning troops is bad, then the “Mission” sign was AT LEAST equal. Because nothing was over, so it was a slap in the face to all our troops still fighting and dying.

The media and Obama. You guys are funny. More newspapers in American are Conservative than Liberal. Conservative talk radio dominates the airwaves and Fox News is the number 1 “news” station in America. You can stop whining about the media now. It’s actually getting how comical and stupid it makes you look when someone knows all the facts.

You bash a man you have nicknames the “messiah”, but when GW said he was acting on behalf of God that was ok? Hypocrites.

Silent no more? Unfortunately you’re the loudest people I know. I wish I could get you to be silent, let alone “once again”.

Everyone take a chill pill and turn Rush down a few bars. None of your lives are worse off and Obama has taken none of your freedoms. His worst acts have been not restoring freedoms Bush took from you, and you should bash Obama for that. I know you will, but I also know none of you complained when Bush took them away because the Kool-Aid was still fresh.

What’s this all mean? It’s irony that you accuse people of being blinded and mislead when you yourselves don’t think for yourselves. You repeat what you hear and read on the Conservative dominated radio, tv and newspaper. Then you accuse others of doing so for Obama. Irony. Then you stand up against… what exactly? Whatever you’re told to? But all you can really do is point fingers at others for what you’re doing 24/7. It’s at best tragic irony and at worst deeply hypocritical. But I’ve become used to that. The Republicans don’t play by the same rules because you have God on your side and guns in your arms. What else do you need?

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   November 2nd, 2009 - 4:17 pm

Dear Smarter Than All You at 3:34 pm…in your own small mind…you are smarter than all the rest of “real” Americans speaking up and speaking out!

But even you have freedom of speech and I, personally, appreciate your taking the time to post your negative comments about “real” Americans speaking up and speaking out!

And the end of your comment…”what else do you need”?

Not you for sure! If you are not with us, you are against us and we definitely don’t need you!

And, by the way, what are you going to do when you lose your position in “our” White House?

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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!

1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED

DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!

IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!

Still Smarter Than You   November 2nd, 2009 - 6:04 pm

Eileen,

Please define what makes you a “real” American. And then in turn, please describe to me what makes me (you seem to think I am) a “fake” American. And if you don’t think that of me, what makes anyone a “fake” American.

Then I want you to answer this question: Why are you better for speaking out now than people who spoke out in the past? What makes your speak “real” and speak from one to eight years ago “fake”? Are you implying that you have been and always will be right? Are you implying that you are incapable of being wrong? Are you implying others are incabple of being right?

You said you don’t need me? What does that mean? Are you implying that as a “real” American, it is better for me to be gotten rid of than accepted? Are you saying that “real” Americans simply ignore or cast aside someone who thinks differently? As a “real” American, shouldn’t you accept me and my position even if you don’t agree with it? Shouldn’t you accept me?

I hold no position in “anyone’s” White House. Are you saying that it isn’t currently “your” White House? Are you saying this because you don’t like the man in charge? I didn’t care much for George W. Bush, but he was always MY President and always stayed in MY White House. Heaven forbid anything happen to him, but I would have mourned and respected any harm upon him. Had any nation tried to harm us I’d have supported his every action in fighting back (i.e. Afghanistan). He might not have been very bright, but he WAS and IS my President. If he ever came to my city to speak, I’d go see him in a heartbeat. He did many amazing things, but he also did many poor things. But are you saying that you don’t feel the same way about President Obama? Do you wish harm upon him? Do you not support anything he does or stands for?

And what am I going to do when I lose position in “your” White House? Well, nothing. I have no position in any White House. Nor does anything change for me if a Republican gets elected to it. I’m not like you Eileen. I’m not divisive and militant. I don’t post “don’t tread on me” in my signature, because unlike you, I actually understand what it originally stood for. It was a patriotic message (specifically for Marines) about how a country must UNIFY and stand tall in the face of adversity. You’re using it as the opposite. You’re using it to divide and threaten (or more specifically, the exact opposite of what it was invented for).

And then there is the silly “impeachment or the ‘original’ Kenyan birth certificate. Name one thing he has done worthy of impeachment (beyond disagreeing with you). And give the birth certificate thing a rest. It’s as silly as the National Guard documents. And guess what, I didn’t care about that either.

You’re a hypocrite Eileen. You define “real” Americans as people who only agree with you and your cause. You use the slogan from the Gadsden flag to divide rather than unify and you attack anything that goes against what you are told to beleive.

You spoke of my “small mind” Eileen, but you have yet to say anything here that is orginial, unique or your own. I challenge you to actually answer my questions (as I will do to any you post and have for ones you did) if you can. I’ll be waiting.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   November 2nd, 2009 - 8:46 pm

Dear “Still” Smarter Than You at 6:04 pm…you my friend are the one that is attacking those in America who are speaking up and speaking out against the evil that resides in “our” White House!

You show your ignorant superiority by implying in your name that you are smarter than those who are protesting the taking down of America from within!

Now in this latest post…you again…elevate yourself to a superior position…you are only smarter than others in your small mind because of your small mindedness!

Never, ever in the history of our nation has America been so under attack from the enemy within!

Individual politicians that call themselves American, but are nothing like it!

In ten months this administration has done nothing but create chaos and division amongst our people!

Never before in the history of our nation have we discarded our old time allies for new friends that include dictators and terrorist groups!

Never before in the history of our nation have our young children been exposed to indoctrination of all things Bilderberg Bush-Obama!

Never before in the history of our nation have we had to go to old time enemies to borrow money to stay afloat because this administration said the “sky was falling” and passed one damming piece of trillion dollar legislation after another!

Never before in the history of our nation have we had such a man at our helm that lies continually about everything.

Never before in the history of our nation have our armed forces been so low in morale awaiting “orders from HQ” that never come while body bags do!

This man claimed to be a unifer…he has done nothing but divide!

You cannot compare for even one minute the terms of the former President with what this man is doing!

The former President is also a Bilderberg member and anything he did while in office was, also, at their direction!

That is why I call him Bilderberg Bush-Obama…get it!

But the former presidency was never as much of a peril to our freedoms and liberties as this administration…never!

Encourages Americans to turn in other Americans to them so they can tail them from White House emails!

Never before in the history of our nation have we had so many communists and worshippers of enemies of the United States of America than Bilderberg Bush-Obama has appointed as his “Czars”!

Never before have we seen someone so dangerous to the future of our children and grandchildren as this man!

So do not compare the former administration with this one…this one is far, far worse and dangerous to the continuance of our Republic.

And if you do not see those truths, you do not agree with millions and millions of “real” Americans who have awaken to the reality of the dangers we are facing…than you are not a “real” American.

“Real” Americans fight for our freedoms…we don’t make excuses!

“Real” Americans get involved and get informed!

“Real” Americans are not afraid to cross the line in the sand that this administration continually challenges us to cross!

“Real” Americans will stand together…starting this week to rid ourselves of all who are against us, our Republic, our Constitution and our freedoms/liberties and sovereignty!

If you are not with us, you are against us…and in bed with Bilderberg Bush-Obama and the Democratzi!

We have much work to do and we do not have time to stop and mamby, pamby such as you and the Democratzi who like to blame others for what they have created…we own up to the challenge and we will win!

YES WE CAN…YES WE WILL…BRING ‘HOPE’ AND ‘CHANGE’ TO AMERICA THAT WILL PUT HER BACK ON TRACK TO HER GREATEST DAYS AHEAD!

America is at war…but not with an enemy outside our shores…we are fighting the enemy within! And now that this enemy has been identified…we are working to win the war one battle at a time!

You are welcome to join us…but it seems you would rather just accuse, attack and blame…and that is the “mantra” of the Democratzi!

Enough said…there will be no further discourse with you to explain why you are wrong and we “real” Americans are right…just get out of our way as we march to victory for the Republic!

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THE REVOLUTION OF THE SILENT MAJORITY – SILENT NO MORE!

1. GETTING INFORMED
2. GETTING INVOLVED

DON’T TREAD ON US…WE PAY YOUR BILLS IN WASHINGTON AND IN YOUR HOMES WHERE YOU WILL ALL BE GOING STARTING IN 2010 AND BEYOND…GUARANTEED!

IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!

lavoce   November 2nd, 2009 - 10:09 pm

To: Eileen for Freedom/Liberty November 2, 2009 8:46PM

Way to go, little sis. “S-A-L-U-T-E!” ~ lavoce

Thinks Eileen needs to put down the Kool-Aid   November 4th, 2009 - 3:19 am

Eileen,

Your argument is flawed. Several ways. You must define this “attack” I am guilty of first and foremost. Then, after you identify that, you must show your facts as to how I am engaging in that behavior. Have you done this?

Thus is the rules of an argument. You MUST use logic, otherwise your claims are unfounded and can’t be taken seriously. You are assuming things not only about me, but about our country. You called our President and his administration “evil”. That is highly opinionated and emotional, two things a logical argument must be devoid of. In other words, your substituting your opinion for fact and then trying to pass it off as fact. Based on the evidence I have in front of me (your posts), I can conclude it is because you have no argument or original thought. You’re regurgitating what others have said and told you to say.

And how dare you question my patriotism or love for my country? Who are you and what gives you that right? The further irony is that you attack me for judgments and actions that you yourself have been doing every post on this board. Again, you are a hypocrite.

Your continued insistence I am a “fake” American an you are a “real” one is disgusting and shameful. If this is what you beleive our country needs I weep for the possibility. You’re far more elitist than anyone I know and you are blinded by ignorance and opinion. I pity you more than anything. I pity all like you.

And I will not move or step aside, as I fight for what I beleive. Which is what you used to define a “real” American. So I actually just proved, using your definition, that I am as “real” as you.

Sorry Eileen, you can’t out talk or outsmart me. I think originally and don’t read off of a script. And that makes me more dangerous than you and your ilk. It’s why you lost the election and your party is in shambles. So keep fighting the good fight, it’s working out well.

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