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This is is sure to be depicted as wacko behavior by the leftists. But if they want to call the Santorums wacky for believing this, then they'll be castigating every other believing Christian in the world, because Mrs. Santorum is simply repeating exactly what Jesus told his disciples:
“When they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not worry about how or what you are to speak in your defense, or what you are to say; for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”
Luke 12: 11-12
“But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."
Matthew 10: 19-20
She sounds like a good woman and a blessing as a wife. Santorum has already won in his personal life and we should all be so lucky.
God, I'd take Rick over Obama anyday!
Pray away baby!!!
She wasn't saying that. The Holy Spirit is meant to be an advocate sent by God to work through us, and speak through us. You cannot force the Holy Spirit to speak for any particular political cause. The desire is to have Him speak the truth through his people.
It's a sign of humility that Santorum desires to submit his own will to the will of God.
Compare that to our current president who seems to think that he IS a god!
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
Barack Obama
June 4, 2008
Why is 'Holy Spirit' in quotes, but not the rest of it?
Just asking.
Most people like a candidate who is religious, but are uncomfortable with someone who thinks he takes his marching orders from god. I think it's the over emphasis on religion that is holding Santorum back.
Last I checked, the Holy Spirit was sent by Christ to testify of his work of redemption and to convict the world in regards to this, not to convince Americans to vote for RINO Santorum….
"Padding his own wallet as a corporate lobbyist at the expense of taxpayers;
Voting to RAISE the debt ceiling five times;
Voting to DOUBLE the federal Department of Education;
Voting with liberals like Ted Kennedy on multiple occasions in support of Big Labor's radical agenda;
Urging more federal involvement in housing with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac;
Voting to create a brand new, unfunded entitlement, Medicare Part D, the largest expansion of entitlement spending since President Lyndon Johnson – creating $16 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities;
Endorsing liberal Big Government RINOs like Arlen Specter over conservatives. Of course, Specter later became a Democrat and worked hand-in-glove with President Obama to pass his radical agenda;
Voting for Sarbanes-Oxley, which imposed dramatic new job-killing accounting regulations on businesses;
Supporting raising taxes on oil companies, which directly costs Americans more money out of their pockets at the gas pump;
Voting for gun control;
Voting to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens, while voting against an additional 1,000 border patrol agents;
Voting to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea;
Voting to send hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to Planned Parenthood – the nation's largest provider of abortion – and hand out hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid to enemies of Israel."
Should be a step up from listening to Vladimir Lenin speak through Obama for the last three years
Do you prefer the way things are now – taking your marching orders from a president who thinks he IS God?
Better than listening to the unholy spirit, allah.
Would you care to cite your sources for that info?
Oh, it's Ron Paul, you say? That's what I thought.
Because the rest is in italics making it grammatically correct.
Its very reassuring to know that the Santorums are so faithful. Rick doesn't have to be President to be more effective than the President, particularly if he's allowing God to work through him. But if he were President or even Vice President how great would it be to know that a genuine Christian is in office.
Is that what I said?
I think the over emphasis comes from the media.
Nice one!
I'll look into it. I'll let you know if I come across any classes on the ability to handle criticism.
"Last I checked, the Holy Spirit was sent by Christ.." You better check again, Christ never sent the Holy Spirit.
If anything, I don't doubt for a moment that Santorum will respect the Constitution.
Excellent explanation. She is asking that the Spirit move him to speak what is right, true, and good. That must be frightening to most liberals.
She never said she wanted the Holy Spirit to get votes for him. He is still 1000 times better than Obama even if what you have pointed out is true (some is misrepresented or misinterpreted, I believe) He is at least 500 times better than Paul and 100 times better than Romney.
Rim shot.
“But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me." Jn. 15:26
Patriots
She is bringing the Christian Faith to the center of the public square as is her husband as we are all commanded to do.She is Evangelizing and is not ashamed of Christ and will not deny Him.
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
<< John 14:26 >>
I like this a lot more than "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."
Mrs. Santorum's comments are reassuring and give me a sense of peace.
Thank you Mrs. Santorum. More people need to be as candid and brave as you are. May God bless you, Mr. Santorum, your family and our country.
It would be nice if we could get a FLOTUS like Karen Santorum…you know someone who has always been proud of her country, not just when it is politically expedient…
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying Jn. 15:26 is wrong because Jn. 14:26 is right? In hermeneutics there is a thing called "harmonization" whereby seemingly contrary Scriptures are reconciled. A harmonization of these two would be that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and Son, and that the Father sent the Spirit in the Son's name and on his behalf… meaning that Christ could truthfully say that he was sending the Holy Spirit due to the authority he had as the Messiah and the second person of the Triune Godhead. So YES Christ spoke truthfully (as did I) when he said he would send the Holy Spirit.
I have no problem with criticism of something I said. You criticized me for something I didn't say.
easy there, doowop. easy boy.
This is why the Santorum's need to be soundly rejected. If he get's elected, we're on a countdown to his Holy War against gays, non-believers and brown people.
Wake up! This guy is dangerous!
Is this a joke?
She wants an imaginary "spirit" to speak through her husband?! And that's cool with you all?! These are the same people who probably think muslims are nuts and evil with their silly little religion.
Can't you keep it to yourself?!
Um, the government isn't supposed to endorse a religion. So, she needs to shut her fat bazoo.
He believes in equality for all…unless you aren't christian and as long as you don't get it on with the same sex. Freedom for only those who think just like him. Religious fascist!
Cool!
Jesus, save me from your followers!
I guess that whole love your fellow man is a bunch of jive.
It's all made up anyways. Who cares? If you really are strongly christian, you better start stoning people for being non-believers and banging your kin.
You are lost in more ways than one…..
You don't have to love what they do. Dummy.
I have no problem with her wanting the Holy Spirit to speak through her husband, but the implication is that by doing so he will gain supporters, is it not? C'mon let's not kid ourselves. I don't doubt Santorum's faith, but I'm not voting for someone simply because they're a Christian. I'm a Christian, I'm actively involved in church (a couple of them actually… and yes, Bible-believing evangelical ones, not liberal fluff ones), and there are some Christians I wouldn't vote for if my life depended on it. Good brothers and sisters in the Lord? Sure. Presidential material? Nope. Santorum (based on his record) is not the person (in my opinion) who is prepared to fix this nation's problems because he has a record of adding to them. Even his own state wouldn't reelect him. If the Holy Spirit speaks through anyone it will be to spread the gospel of grace regarding Christ's substitutionary atonement and a Biblical world-view which includes among other things a disdain for intrusive government adding law upon law upon law until one cannot even breathe without being taxed or fined.
A GOVERNMENT isn't.I expect ANY President to be upfront and open about his Faith.Or lack thereof.It should NEVER be the dirty little secret the Left and Christian mockers want it to be.She can say what she wants .Santorum is front and center with his Christianity.That proviso is to protect religion from government not the other way around.
Similarly, Warren Jeffs and David Koresh were lucky to have so many devoted to them.
Get behind me satan.
For Christ's sake, it seems that Karen should have married Tim Tebow. The guy's got a definite "in" with the Jewish carpenter.
I say Rick's best chance at success, PRESENTLY, is to do toothpaste commercials.
I like your comments for the most part but you did indeed criticize him for something he never said.
How come Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhist don't evangelize? Answer–they don't have to because they practice "stand alone" religions. They need not depend on fairy tales, Greek mythology and Mother Goose stories.
Politics and religion don't mix. Thomas Jefferson said in 1802, "the reason we don't have a national religion is to
prevent the kind of internecine murder that's been plaguing Europe for 250 years." He was referring to the Reformation and the consequences of bolting from the Holy See. Yes, 76United is right; Karen ought to shut her fat bazoo and Rick Sanctimonius ought to get the hell out of the race.
And you know that he is a genuine Christian how exactly?
I agree that a genuine Christian is great. However, the
idea that you know this for a certainity is what bothers me.
Especially since we are not capable of judging his inner thoughts.
Sanctimonius has as much chance of becoming President as John Dillinger has in returning to rob banks.
"Um, the government isn't supposed to endorse a religion."
It's isnt.
"So, she needs to shut her fat bazoo. "
No she doesnt. It's her constitutional right to ask the holy spirit to speak through her husband.
OH! PLEEZE!
….read Matthew 6: (QUOTE) "1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. "
Moreover, Jesus says:
MATT 6:5 – - – (QUOTE) “And when you pray,
do not be like the hypocrites,
for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.
.."Truly I tell you, ………they have received their reward in full.
MATT 6:6 But when you pray, go into your room,
- close the door and pray to your Father,
- – who is unseen.
Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
7- And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
8 – Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. "
Santorum has a record as an ADVOCATE of BIG GOVERNMENT!~-
~ Santorum is a BIG GOVERNMENT TEA PARTY-CONSERVATIVE TARE!
amen.
"She wants an imaginary "spirit" to speak through her husband?!"
- It's imaginary to you, not to her.
"And that's cool with you all?!"
- yes
" These are the same people who probably think muslims are nuts and evil with their silly little religion."
– So your argument is that they are jokes because they think of muslims the way you think of them?
"Can't you keep it to yourself?! "
Why? – remeber that little saying "Life Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness"?
He is as dangerous as you are stupid.
A genuine Christian? Excuse me but how do you not know at age 12 he wasn't removing training bras? This mixing
religion and politics is a genuine pain in the butt and is NOT what our Founding Fathers intended. All this religion nonsense mixed in with religion (I am a theist) detracts from liberty. It enhances nothing but contempt by us who
understand how contemptuous of the Constitution are the Holy Rollers claiming to be Christian. It's a sickening situation that's worsening. What the hell do reverent Christians want–the Capitol Building to become a cathedral?
You got THAT right, my friend!
Is this some kind of forum that's promoting Harold Camping for President?
We can not deny God in any aspect of our daily lives, it is impossible to do so.
However you can choose to reject God, the cost of doing so is unspeakable.
I pray for those who have not yet learned the TRUTH.
There is still time to be saved, very little time though.
Praise GOD allways.
I don't think it is reasonable to expect that God's influence and presence in one's life can or should be checked at the door of the Oval Office. Many a past president and patriot has spoken about the importance of divine inspiration in his life:
"While we are contending for our own liberty, we should be very cautious not to violate the rights of conscience in others, ever considering that God alone is the judge of the hearts of men, and to him only in this case they are answerable."
George Washington, letter to Benedict Arnold, Sep. 14, 1775
"There is a Destiny which has the control of our actions, not to be resisted by the strongest efforts of Human Nature."
George Washington, letter to Mrs. George William Fairfax, Sep. 12, 1758
“It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”
George Washington (date unknown)
"I have been driven many times to my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go."
Abraham Lincoln
"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life.
I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy."
Thomas Paine
"The public expression through prayer of our faith in God is a fundamental part of our American heritage and a privilege which should not be excluded by law from any American school, public or private."
Ronald Reagan in a message to the Congress Transmitting the Proposed Constitutional
Amendment on Prayer in Schools, March 8, 1983
Attempting to separate God from politics is akin to attempting to separate God and science. They are all intertwined. There is a misunderstanding about the concept of the separation of Church and State. That purely means that neither institution shall have absolute control over the will of the people. It should not be misinterpreted as an admonishment to expunge God and faith from any involvement in the public arena, including politics.
The Constitution states that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." But nowhere does it flip that equation around and say that religion conviction should be a disqualifying factor for a candidate. If Rick Santorum stated a desire to have the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops rewrite our Constitution, then I think we should have cause for concern. As it is, he is merely a man who has a strong religious convictions that guide his actions, the same way that many, many of our forefathers did. It's what guides him and makes him a good person. If only we had more elected officials who believed in a higher power than themselves; perhaps then we would not have the corrupt government that we have now.
Why do you care how someone prays?
Yes. She does not believe in using condoms. Lucky Ricky
"When they bring you before synagogues manned by rulers and authorities……….? What kind of garbage is that. Even though I'm Christian, I have Jewish friends and have been to two synagogues…for a wedding and for a Bar Mitzvah. Samwise007, you aren't. I say leave your Luke anti-Semitism at home or are you one of those guys who actually believe Jews killed Jesus or that Pilate was so fearful of the subjugated Jewish slaves, he jumped to attention when they "demanded Jesus's execution" by crucifxion even though the only accepted means of execution according to Jewish law at that time was by stoning? Unfortunately in my faith, we have a lot more wackos than Brother Stair and Harold Camping.
I don't. You are preposterous.
THANK YOU SENSIBILITY…its making a comeback!
This has nothing to do with evangelizing…hes using the words of Christ for personal gain His political record speaks for itself and much of it is anything but Christian
The Holy Spirit is in a froth for Ricky.
it's obvious you do by the post you made.
You made it clear through the bible versus you cut and pasted that you think that Karen needs to pray in private…
Your name calling does not phase me.
He was speaking about hypocrites who pray ONLY for the recognition and praise, but do not have true faith. You know, kind of like when Bill Clinton would go to Sunday services with his Bible in hand for all to see. Meanwhile, he was committing adultery with an intern.
If Jesus expected everyone to shut the door and never mention his name or pray in public, why then would he say this:
“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Matthew 5: 12-12
Why was John the Baptist beheaded? Why were so many Christians martyred throughout history?
I'm not comparing Santorum to John The Baptist, or saying he is a martyr. But it takes a certain amount of courage to stand up for one's Christian faith in a society that has an increasingly hostile view of Christianity.
Oh, and you might want to be careful about quoting the Bible out of context in order to suite your own purposes. Satan is famous for that.
You're correct.
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of Christ as represented as the third person of the Trinity. Having the same essence of deity as Jesus and as perfectly one with him as the father.
Oh….an anti-Theist….how novel.
THREAD: (QUOTE)
" Karen Santorum Asking ‘Holy Spirit’ To Speak Through Her Husband "
CONTEXT dear maroni angel.
You are preposterously out of context.
Oh. Wait…….Are you writing through your Multi-MILLION DOLLAR LDS-maroni-device???
What's Santorum got against the brown people of UPS?
Opinions are like a$$ holes-everybody's got one and sometimes is one.You are testament to both.
what was the purpose of the (out of context) cut and pasted the bible verses?
Um, maybe you're not familiar with Biblical history. It was the Jews who demanded the death of Jesus. They would not do it themselves because it was during the Passover season. There is nothing anti-Semitic about that fact. The Jewish authorities were threatened by the growing influence of Jesus, so they decided to ensure that he be taken out of the picture. Jesus was sent for the Jews, God's chosen people. It was prophesied that they would not accept him. He was rejected by them (or at least by their leaders) "The stone that the builders rejected has now become the cornerstone." The builders are the Jews. They are still God's chosen people, but now they share that inheritance with all others who accept Jesus as their savior. The prophecies are still unfolding. As a Christian, I consider the Jews my brothers and sisters. And I'll compare my record of attendance at Jewish weddings with yours any day (best man at one).
So take it easy with the accusations of anti-Semitism. How could I be angry at the Jews for killing Jesus, when, if Jesus did not die there would be no Christianity? It was all meant to happen. Geez, I figured that all out by the 3rd grade!
Why do Bible verses offend you? They were totally in keeping with this thread's CONTEXT.
What makes you think they offend me?
Again.. what was the purpose of the cut and pasted bible versus?
What point are "YOU" trying to make!
No, that is not the implication at all. It seemed clear that she wants the Holy Spirit to give him good counsel. I would never vote for someone just because he/she was a Christian. A Christian can have ideas and policies I don't agree with just as a non-Christian can have wonderful morals, ideas, etc. But if both are equal, I would vote for the Christian. Santorum has not added nearly as many problems as Obama. I'm not sure he is the person I will support yet, but I do like him better than Romney and MUCH better than crazy Ron Paul.
Man, the Pauliacs are out in force on these comment forums, and Santorum seems to be their main target of hatred. How do you expect any of us to vote for Ron Paul when he and his minions employ this kind of slash and burn attacks against good men like Santorum?
I have yet to hear Ron Paul stand up for the family, or for people of faith. He seems more concerned about violent drug offenders being "unfairly" incarcerated.
And I haven't heard this kind of vitriol from Paul supporters against Barack Obama. It seems that Paul and his supporters would rather burn the Republican house to the ground, even if it means that Obama will get four more years in office.
By the way, have you ever wondered why you see so many young people at Ron Paul rallies? Even Paul himself is surprised by this. It's because he's their best hope of having legalized marijuana nationwide. I've seen the pot advocates in action, and I know that it is that ONLY issue that they care about.
And poor old Ron Paul thinks that they all just care about liberty as much as he does.
I was always taught my religion is a private matter, not a "public" matter. The way I interact with people should tell them where I stand. If she wishes to refer to the "Holy Ghost", then that is her beliefs. I will not question her faith.
Replying to DarthShatner (QUOTE) it's obvious you do by the post you made. "
You seem to ride high with a burr in your anti-Biblical saddle
NOTE: A saddle is a supportive structure for a rider whom (in your case) – rides on your giant load of theological errors, as well as errors of thread CONTEXT, – your false claims, and your excrement of facts.
Not to bore you and your illicit remarks,
The Bible says of you :
1 Corinthians 2:14
New International Version (©1984)
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
How could we elect someone so obviously guided by Godly principles as president of the United States??? Why, it's unheard of!
"There is a Destiny which has the control of our actions, not to be resisted by the strongest efforts of Human Nature."
George Washington, letter to Mrs. George William Fairfax, Sep. 12, 1758
This statement is a parading of ignorance.
Santorum says he is a Catholic. The teaching of the Church condemns homosexual acts, not homosexual persons. In fact, the Catechism is very explicit about how to treat people with homosexual tendencies: "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity." (2358 of the CCC) In fact, the Church teaches that all persons must be treated this way no matter what their actions
If someone chooses to be Catholic, they are called to accept the moral teaching of the Church. They are not called to impose it on others.
Your statement is not grounded in fact and is merely an emoted opinion.
Hopefully you do.
This statement either shows a complete dearth of understanding regarding Catholicism or something from a Jack Chick comic.
Santorum says he is a Catholic. The teaching of the Church condemns homosexual acts, not homosexual persons. In fact, the Catechism is very explicit about how to treat people with homosexual tendencies: "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity." (2358 of the CCC) In fact, the Church teaches that all persons must be treated this way no matter what their actions
If someone chooses to be Catholic, they are called to accept the moral teaching of the Church. They are not called to impose it on others.
Your statement is not grounded in fact and is merely an emoted opinion.
First off, for the bashers, if you took the time to notice they are being Interviewed by CBN (Christian Broadcast Network) Which means that any one viewing or that has any real knowledge of God and the Bible knows they will talk about God, so they are not pushing or pushing their religion on anyone, this is a Christian interview. Common sense tells you God will come up in the interview.
2.) All the ones that are refuting this video are in FACT Ron Paul FRAUD Supporters and left wing anti-Christ / non-believers. Showing their true colors. Ron Paul supporters "USE" the bible when convenient, but, they have no REAL deep one on one relationship with God, if they did their fruit would be there, and they also would NOT condemn these people for being Interviewed by CBN, nor would they condemn their replies about God or the Holy Spirit.
I fully support the Santorums and I fully Support their Interview.
If this was Ron Paul or some other Muslim promoting issue talking about Allah there would be no problem, but when you talk about God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, notice the left, the Ron Paul supporters and the atheist come out of the wood work and scream … NO!! Just like a little demon would.
I can clearly tell you these people posting on her are FRAUDS, they claim to be Christians but as you see the rebuke a Christian would they mention the Holy Spirit, The proof is there for all to read in the comments, and these are 100% Ron Paul supporters a few left obama voters.
TELL ME! Do you see the Ron Paul supporters on this video in force supporting it? as they do after debates or last nights debates? "NO" And are they supporting the video/ "NO" they are condemning it.
This is yet another reason why I say Ron Paul is a FRAUD! and runs a deceitful campaign.
I was a Positive 99 yesterday and have been higher then that, but since the Ron Paul supporters invaded this website I have dropped, I took -500+ thumbs down votes from these FRAUDS yesterday, and now I am a Negative 35, BUT THE to their ignorance all they have done is now Made sure that I will post more and on as many sites as possible.
We'll have to agree to disagree then.
what the bible says of you:
John 11:35 – Jesus wept.
You make Jesus cry.
God loved us so much He gave us the Free Will not to Love Him.He does not damn us WE do through our rejection of Him.
Breitbart should have taken all those NEGATIVE votes off the True Breitbart people of this website last night, I have been a member for years and years, as have others I seen get abused here last night, by a bot program…
I was like 107 and now "in one night because of Ron PAUL LUNATICS!" I am negative 35… as they again SPAMMED a website and probably ran a bot program. Bretbart should remove all their trash stuff they posted yesterday after the New Hampshire vote and RESTORE the Thumb votes back to the people that have been loyal Breitbart fans.
Amen.
I wasn't saying that you said that. I was simply providing an example of the stark contrast between Obama and Santorum. One man is clearly guided by his Christian principles, while the other is guided by Marxist philosophy.
My overall point is that if f we are going to be timid about supporting a candidate who "takes his marching orders from God" then we may as well just throw in the towel now, because the Left will never second guess their own beliefs in Marxist philosophy, which they hold as sacrosanct.
I'm sorry I didn't just say that the first time around.
Wow how very Christ-like of you to think so Glad ur true colors are showing
Here is the proof what I am talking about… on the Ron Paul supporters spam last night, my single post last night…
I got -424 thumbs down in One single post, others on the same got over -600… I mean I can live with it, and or create another account or stay with what I got… on this thread… http://www.breitbart.tv/paul-claims-victory-for-t...
I agree with samwise007 in his reply on this. He asked a question in comparison, not criticizing you for something you didn't say. Simply taken out of context. Wouldn't be the first time I did that myself. It happens.
I agree with samwise007 in his reply on this. He asked a question in comparison, not criticizing you for something you didn't say. Simply taken out of context. Wouldn't be the first time I did that myself. It happens.
Edit: Copy/pasted from my earlier reply. See above.
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Rick is lucky to have her.