Health Bill Author: Can Senators Understand the Actual Bill?

"We should know what we're voting on here."

December 17, 2009 at 7:05 am - US Senate
Dateline: Washington, DC
Tom   December 17th, 2009 - 7:21 am

Criminals…..grand theft of a nation through political correctness…..

claspur   December 17th, 2009 - 7:25 am

Sugar sMax Baucus…. His brainpan is on auto-pilot thinking how He can vote for this turd of a bill, and get re-elected in Montana,(Nov. 2nd) without reading it, and still come-out to His constituancy-smelling like a wild Daisy on the Open Range of that state He represents.

Read the bill, you befuddled POS.

SteveZ71   December 17th, 2009 - 8:00 am

Does any of these clowns think that all those that signed the Declaration of Independence/Constitution didn’t read it before signing it? I think it was almost a mandate that they read it and understand what was in it before they did.

CaughtNTheCrosshairs   December 17th, 2009 - 8:01 am

Here is a real simple concept: If you haven’t personaly read it, and don’t understand it, it shall not be passed, PERIOD! It is their job to understand every single bit of every law they write and pass, that way they can adequatly explain the laws to their consituants as well as the reasons why they want to vote for or against it. If they don’t want to take the time to do their jobs and do them right, FIRE THEM!!!!

Nattylite   December 17th, 2009 - 8:12 am

Question. Is reading comprehension a requirement to be a senator? If not, I will run in my state. That was truly pitiful. So what I am hearing, is that if even they don’t understand it, tough luck for us? 99 bottles of senators on the wall…99 bottles of senators..

if   December 17th, 2009 - 8:39 am

Liberals,and faux republicans are screwing the whole country up! This 3rd party thing is getting traction and independents, moderate democrats and disillusioned republicans are looking for a party that truly has this nations best interest first instead of political careers. I live around a lot of people that voted for obama and they are all having serious buyers remorse! And I’m surprised when I go into their houses they’re watching fox news and voicing their anger over obama’s reckless spending and screwed up priorities.

katy   December 17th, 2009 - 8:39 am

I think this mess is our fault. We took our eye off the ball and gave our rebublic away to these thieves.

It’s the people’s responsibility to pay attention to who is minding the store and we fell asleep at the wheel.

TIME TO GET MAD, TIME TO GRAB THE WHEEL AND GET THE GD CAR OFF THIS HIGHWAY TO HELL!! NOW!

Notasheeple   December 17th, 2009 - 9:01 am

I would like to certify that all these ba$tard$ are thrown out of office on their next election cycle.

SteveZ71   December 17th, 2009 - 9:01 am

Nice Katy, real nice….don’t include me in your mistakes. I didn’t vote for any of the idiots running this country. Your like those on the TV/News that make the remark, “I’m sure the American citizens agree with me when I say”. I am so sick of those clowns when they say that or something similar. Go ahead and blame yourself but don’t speak for me.

katy   December 17th, 2009 - 9:15 am

Sorry Stevie baby,
Your purity is stunning. We all have a criminal we voted for. Even if you didn’t vote for Obama, 90% of the elected officials in this country local or national are ripping us off in some way and YOU my friend ARE part of the problem.
I voted Rebulican and have for years. I now see it means very little to the good of this country.
We ALL fell asleep to one degree or another and it took this atrocity to shed light on the enormous problem we have with our entire government.

Fed up in Virginia   December 17th, 2009 - 9:25 am

aaaaaaauuuuuggghhhh! CONGRESS-YOU’RE FIRED!

testicular man   December 17th, 2009 - 9:26 am

This crooked womanizing Baucus, who gives his girl a raise at the tax payers expense is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman! He hasn’t read it either, like Landreau from Louisiana, Baucus had his lawyers draft the freaking things and then explained to Baucus a thing or two about the bill. They’re all crooks and thieves, at our expense!

Bauchus needs to be in front of a Grand Jury   December 17th, 2009 - 9:44 am

Why isn’t this man in front of a Grand Jury right now for giving a Federal job to his mistress?

m miller   December 17th, 2009 - 9:51 am

Have there ever been this many idiots running a country. The country is in chaos because congress is chaos. The economy, because congress chose to save wall street. The health care bill is being voted on, but no one has seen the bill. A president who tries to sell the bill, and he cannot. Yet, we were warned about his inexperience. God, help us all.

Mark   December 17th, 2009 - 10:06 am

This is pretty much the topper in deceit and fear mongering. ABC’s Karen Travers reports:

President Obama told ABC News’ Charles Gibson in an interview that if Congress does not pass health care legislation that will bring down costs, the federal government “will go bankrupt.”

The president laid out a dire scenario of what will happen if his health care reform effort fails.

If we don’t pass it, here’s the guarantee….your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you,” he said. “Potentially they’re going to drop your coverage, because they just can’t afford an increase of 25 percent, 30 percent in terms of the costs of providing health care to employees each and every year. ”

The president said that the costs of Medicare and Medicaid are on an “unsustainable” trajectory and if there is no action taken to bring them down, “the federal government will go bankrupt.”
“This actually provides us the best chance of starting to bend the cost curve on the government expenditures in Medicare and Medicaid,” Obama said.

Ed Lasky provides the necessary reality check:

Does he have any idea of the economic disaster he and his fellow Democrats are unleashing? Yet, he has the audacity to claim not passing it will cause the federal government to go bankrupt. Economic literacy – not something our brilliant president has. The government really won’t go “bankrupt.” It can just keep borrowing and spending and printing money. Besides, medical care costs are not going up 25-30% every year.
This might just be the stupidest thing Barack Obama has said yet.

One might wonder how spending at least $1.5 trillion over the next ten years is going to help keep the government solvent.

It might not be stupidity; just plain old fear mongering and lying. It shows how absolutely desperate the president is to get his health care reform bill passed

SteveZ71   December 17th, 2009 - 10:16 am

Katy, Katy, I agree with you that I am YOUR baby and that ALL the politicians are corrupt and criminal. However, I am not taking blame for those who have gone postal and are losing their mind in congress and local government. According to your thinking I guess you would have to blame the people who signed and drew up the Contitution of the United States for every and all the killings done in the United States because they agreed and supported the 2nd Admendment. NOT HAPPENING!!

Checkers   December 17th, 2009 - 10:24 am

WE DON’T WANT NO STINKIN GOVERNMENT RUN OR SUPERVISED HEALTHCARE & INSURANCE INDUSTRY, period – NO HOW – NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will vote all who support above out of office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Late Joseph McCarthy   December 17th, 2009 - 10:30 am

If he were honest about it, the obtuse Senator Baucus COULD obtain the requested written certified representations from each individual Senator. Be he is obviously not and won’t!

checkit   December 17th, 2009 - 11:47 am

The dems do not want to be on record for knowing what they voted for when it tanks. Baucaus sounds like a scam artist (cars salesman), …Why Read the fine print customers just sign the document…

100% corrupt. and totally insane that they have no clue what they are voting on, which leads to Blind deaf and dumb senators elected to office.

Step in line sign without knowing. who elects these people?

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tim   December 17th, 2009 - 12:53 pm

Are you kidding me!!!!! Did Baucus actually say very few senators would understand it, then I ask why is a bill written with such language that only the lawyers can read it.
Sounds like the biggest scam I have seen in a while and if any of us (none government) ran our companies like they run theirs, we would be out of business.
This is a joke and we need to send a message LOUD & CLEAR that this is our country and they work for US, not the corporations and we can do that by voting them out, left, right, independent,,,,,if you don’t work for US, then you don’t work.

Even Howard Dean is stepping up and saying he thinks it’s a joke.

I will end with this; our government is the highest form of organized CRIME, but these are criminals that can be voted OUT !!!!!!!!!!

Joe   December 17th, 2009 - 12:59 pm

I am beyond outrage. Does anyone remember the movie “Falling Down”starring Mike Douglas, about an unemployed engineer who went totally nuts with frustration. He just wants to get home to his daughter on her birthday. Unfortunately, nothing seems to be going right for him. First there’s the traffic jam, then the jerk Korean shopkeeper who “doesn’t give change”. He begins to break down and starts to fight back against the every day “injustices” he encounters on the journey home. Well that’s the mood millions of us in this country are rapidly approaching. If something doesn’t change pretty soon forget the tea parties, this country will explode in a rage not seen since the revolution.

justme   December 17th, 2009 - 1:21 pm

I think Beverly over on the comments at http://www.biggovernment.com on the story of “Harry Christmas” got it right when she said,

“one of the major reasons obama wants this bill passed is so he has something to brag about at the state of the union address. as usual….its all about him and the hell with the rest of us”.

Remembering how narcissistic and inept the President is finally explains why there has been this horrendous push for a bill that there’s not even any time for the senators nor we the people to read and confer on before it is shoved down our throats and used to enslave ourselves, our children and our grandchildren to the government lead by the self-proclaimed messiah, Obama. My sympathies to the senators and their families for this terrible treatment of them and their families during what used to be considered America’s most holy times.

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albert   December 17th, 2009 - 5:12 pm

A few posts ago someone asked why Baucus isn’t in jail. The same reason Rangle (how quickly everyone forgets), Geitner, Sibileous, Dodd, Daschle.. I mean they control EVERYTHING. Including the MSM. They KNOW most people are far more engaged w/dancing with the stars, or Tiger’s perversities, and that even when we find out about their criminal activities they just have to wait it out for a couple of news cycles (now just a couple of days) and people will be on to the next salacious story. I’m hoping we are indeed waking up. Its too late to stop any damage until next November. Hopefully we can repeal some of this stuff. It IS doable.. look at Prohibition. And then we can hopefully put the criminals on trial for treason. It is clear we are dealing with anti-American politicians. I mean why doesn’t Nancy just come out and tell us to “eat cake”?

confused no longer   December 17th, 2009 - 5:27 pm

political unrest, misinformation, lack of grounded philosophy, hate, mistrust, This is where the liberal does their best work, and most damage.

IceCream Rover   December 17th, 2009 - 5:30 pm

Of course the hater righty senators cant it is because they are to stupid to understand progresive intelect. It
would help if they could read to – Laughing Out loud.

SteveZ71   December 17th, 2009 - 6:03 pm

IceCream Rover Don’t EVER use the words progressives and intellect in the same sentence EVER AGAIN!!

Army of Davids   December 18th, 2009 - 12:14 am

It’s very simple Max….your days in the senate are numbered. This is not a fun little game you play with your girlfriend.

Your buddy Senator Tester (D) Montana still has a chance to survive. But he better not vote in favor of this bill or we come for him also.

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