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What happen TG? Did you leave your talking points at the office? Why can’t you just answer the questions?
America…the Bilderberg Geithner…may be telling the truth…because they always protect the puppet of the Bilderberg…Obama the Bush.
He keeps himself ‘dumb’ on alot of things…to keep his hands clean…much like his voting ‘present’ most of the time in the Illinois and US Senate…not leaving a trail back to him.
He knows what they are doing…but he is keeping himself clear of the basic nitty, gritty of the dirt to get it done.
The Chicago mafia way….alive and well in our Federal government ever since the deaf, dumb and blind elected the first ‘radical’ Muslim to the highest office in our land.
Protecting all things Islamic and dissing everything American.
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AMERICA…REMEMBER THE VOTE…
COME NOVEMBER WE WILL BE SERVING UP ‘LAME DUCK’ FOR THANKSGIVING…AND WHAT A DAY OF THANKSGIVING THAT WILL BE!
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IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!
Sure he doesnt like the tax, wink wink.
How would Herr Geithner know? He can’t even figure out TurboTax.
Besides when was the last time “dishonest Obe” told the truth?
Dishonest Obe follows the marxist/alinsky dictum that the end justifies the means.
“Truth – - what it truth?” BHusseinO
Dishonest Obe cannot tell a lie – - from the truth. Moral equivalency at work.
Is this guy for REAL? Isn’t he who increased the deficit more than any other President? His indifferance and bizarre atttidue towards America is frightening and should be looked into.
Isn’t that funny….that’s not what Obummer said.
Obummer is going to stick the VAT on the meager morons that voted for him and he’ll just blame Bush. What an intellect!
My god… Did you see Tim’s nose grow as he was talking?? just like in the movie AIRPLANE. Creepy…. Are you telling us everything? …… and we’re out of coffee..
Wow, doublespeak. Conservatives are very intelligent people and we see right through this staged drama of fools.
They’re having a threesome with the truth again. They have more positions than Tiger Woods.
Im sure if obama thinks about he will like it he does like his taxes .
Not sure about the rest of you folks, but I am damn tired of the lies and deceit, from this “administration”??? The corruption and incompetence of the entire lot of Congress and the Czars is breathtaking. Come November there is going to be a virtual roar as the responsible electorate tell these idiots the Constitution gives the power to the people and show most all of both parties the exit door. Failing a total turn around in Congress, most State and Local offices, there is going to be revolution if need be, to take America back from the brink of failure.
Well he also didn’t support the government taking over the car companies, yet that happened. And he also didn’t support the health care mandate that Hilary wanted, yet that happened. And he didn’t support earmarks, but those happened.
Seems like lots of things he doesn’t support end up happening, so why believe the words and not the actions?
Of course obama does’nt want it TODAY…but he will want later. Does anybody in this administration speak the truth????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
This is a set-up. “Obama doesn’t support the VAT tax”, but when the “bi-partisan” budget committee meets and recommends the VAT, Obama will “reluctantly and begrudgingly” go along with VAT “because it’s the right thing to do”.
A jackass and two rinos!!! My god, for the most part they talked about republicans with their out of control spending (WHO ARE NO LONGER IN CONTROL) and everytime TG spoke he spun it like Obama is not over-spending and kept on referring back to the Bush years of way too much spending!!! JFChrist!!! Obama will double what George Bush did and no one is saying sh**.
YES, IT WAS WRONG WHEN GWBUSH DID IT AND ACCELERATING THIS AND DOUBLING THIS DOESN’T MAKE IT RIGHT UNDER OBAMA!!! All his spending is on projected figures (in the future) of our GDP so how nice of them to top this video segment off with more lies…on how the economy is stubbornly coming around!!! And what about that BS line that we have good ties to China…correction…we HAD good ties UNTIL Obama, WHO IS NOW unraveling those ties as we speak…ummm, nukes to taiwan, scolding them and calling them cheaters and that they are cheating the world by allegedly undervaluing the yuan. The chinese govt. even told us STOP SPENDING under Obama!!
If there was only a true opposition to the democrats them maybe just maybe we could turn this around. Not happening.
excuse I meant “planned $6.4 billion arms package” and not “NUKES”.
Thats just the newest way of saying “I don’t want to do this, but I will anyway”, “this is gonna hurt me more than you” OR “the devil made me do it”….
IDIOTS, LIARS, and FOOLS! Its the inmates running the asylum!!!
Taxes Done Cheap. Let me show you how to reduce you tax liability to 0. I don’t pay taxes and neither should you. Contact me at the U.S. Treasury.
I think that the entire Obama administration is too high….
AND WE ARE GOING TO BRING THEM DOWN!
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER
LIES,LIES AND MORE LIES FROM BARRY & CO.
ARE ALL YOU OBAMA VOTERS STILL HAPPY ???
They are blaming the wrong people for our debt. Obama’s the owner of the largest increase to the debt so far.
The utopia is falling, EVERYBODY RUN!!! (Unless you are a dem, then sit & lie some more…)
WTF…..How are these fools going to convince the under $250,000 working folks that a VAT isn’t a TAX !!!!! ….Why wasn’t this an issue before the OBAMA HEALTHCARE B.S….cut the entitlement sh!!!t and stop stealing my money…LET’S THROW THESE BOZOS OUT OF OFFICE….!!!!
If you support Obama and his Regime, you support a Statist authoritarian who is an empty suit who speaks in platitudes who is beholden to the oligarchical collectivists and banking cabals. You are against freedom, liberty and our constitutional republic and the notion that all of our rights are inborn and are given by our creator. Some autocrat in Washington does not grant rights – the constitution simply enumerates them for added protection. The constitution also limits the Powers of the Federal Government yet an expansionist authoritarian view is used in modern times contrary to what Madison had intended. If you support Obama you support the biggest threat to our free will in our history, and when the last bastion of freedom in the USA falls, there is nowhere else to go.
NEVER FORGET THAT IF HE SAYS YES TODAY, TOMORROW IT WILL BE NO. DEPENDING IF IT IS AN EVEN DAY OR AN ODD
DAY ON THE CALENDER.
TAKE ACTION – END THE CRIMINAL RESERVE
Support S 604, see comment:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/update-sec-says-goldman-defrauded-investors-of-1-billion.html#comment-835673
Obomba and Geithner are playing GAMES.
Obomba is a (NWO) BANKERS puppet
americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html
rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/print
youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
youtube.com/watch?v=WUvjXzTaw5M
msnbc.msn.com/id/32545640#36233217 (msnbc.msn.com/id/36233217)
The word “but” negates everything said before “but”. Think about it.
Oh yeah, right! Now they think they can fool us American taxpayer “bimbos” & “children” by playing GOOD POLITICO/BAD POLITICO!!
FOR GOD’S SAKE, how much LONGER do we have to put up with this “SESAME STREET-LIKE” ADMINISTRATION???
Michelle (Elliott Ness) Backman is right: THEY ACT LIKE GANGSTERS… If they can’t lure you with their persuasive sugar-coated come-ons, they quickly flip over and use the “power of persuasion”!
People, we need to insist to our legislators that FANNIE & FREDDIE must be INCLUDED in any so-called “Wall Street REFORM” since Fannie & Freddie are primarily responsible for the MESS we all find ourselves in today!
Otherwise, they’ll keep on doing what caused this mess: SNEAKY “SUBPRIME LENDING” B.S.
Sesame street gang is right. One official tells you it is…..another says it isn’t. Who is the spokes person for D.C. finance?? Obama or Geithner. Who, in this circus side show, are we supposed to believe they can’t organize a conference meeting….much less, organize our government!!!
We are watching a side show “SHELL GAME”…..and we are being professionally duped by skilled snake oil hawkers.
Sounds like the people who posted on this thread don’t understand the benefits of replacing the Federal Income tax with a VAT.
1) It would completely eliminate the need for the IRS.
2) Basic food and necessities are excluded from the VAT.
3) Every individual can basically control the amount of VAT they will pay by controlling their spending on products that carry a VAT.
4) It would eliminate the IRS (yes, I know I said this already, but c’mon, imagine no more IRS!)
5) The concept of a VAT has been proven effective in many other industrialized countries.
6) Wealthy individuals who now avoid paying any taxes because of loopholes only available to the wealthy, will finally have to pay their fair share.
The only people who should resist the concept of replacing our income tax with a VAT are very high net worth individuals. Everyone else would be better off. If you’re against the VAT, and your not very wealthy, you’re only hurting yourself.
Re: Spin Killer.
You need to do a little honest research. The VAT being discussed is not intended to replace anything … it’s being proposed as an ADDITIONAL tax.
We need to take this administration down for tyranny, treason, and BRIBERY. Let’s petition our crooked government for redress. Freedom Works…. where are you???? John Boehner….can you help us here???
Who else has a “set”……willing to bring this corruption to and end????
TEA PARTY…..get on this. Recruit, organize, discuss with friends, family, neighbors, coffee friends, kids and grandkids, speak now or forever hold your peace. Get behind your supporters and action groups, you know who they are….they are working for you, and/or will be soon.
Just don’t fall for the phony infil-traitors….who would like to undermine our good works.
@Doug Glass –
Agreed, my comments assume a VAT replacing, not complementing, our current income tax system.
While there has been some discussion of overlaying a VAT on our current system, conventional wisdom suggests that the only way a VAT will garner the necessary political support is when it will be used to replace the income tax.
Obama and his dem cronies are all liars! Don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouths! Liars and crooks, thats what they are. They set this whole thing up. It’s no coincidence SO MANY former Goldman employees are now working for White House people! Blatant collusion! Blatant arrogance!
Obama’s Big Sellout
rollingstone.com/politics/taibbiblog/;kw=[blogs,Taibbi_2009,104729]
Video:
rollingstone.com/politics/videos/;kw=[video-gallery-page_3,93747]
We’ve learned to believe the opposite coming out of Washington D.C.
These people have declared war upon the tax paying legal US Citizens.
However, the predominate of people, including the few remaining middle-right journalist-media personalities, have instead made a significant and critical mistake by responding to, and speaking about, and considering Obama and his actions in political terms.
Obama is NOT a politician. Yes he has presented and sold himself to be a politician, but in fact, he is not.
Get your hands on all of those “sealed” background records and you will know and understand this fact: OBAMA IS NOT A POLITICIAN.
There never was a plan for Obama to be re-elected. Fall for this lie, and you have made the gravest of errors. Obama and the persons that control him are operating outside of the Constitution, and thus, are not a legal or legitimate government. They are not to be trusted, and should be challenged in ALL that they do.
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth…
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/20/we-are-the-media/
If “they” can do this much DAMAGE and create so much DISARRAY in less than 1.5 years, WHAT IN HELL will America LOOK LIKE in another 2.5 years?????
HEAVEN HELP US!
P.S. Any fool who thinks a V.A.T. is to “replace” the I.R.S. & our INCOME TAXES is just that–a total F-o-o-l.
You can describe in one word (and FOX News & others have done so) what’s going on between the White House and Wall Street, especially Goldman Sachs:
INCEST.
On biggovernment.com is an article that suggests The Big O *is* considering the VAT–despite what TIMMY says.
The VAT will be the final nail in the coffin for our struggling economy. People will simply REFUSE to buy anything, because of all the added taxes piled on. On the other hand, maybe this THREAT OF A VAT is another ALINSKY TRICK to try to hoist up the sagging economy temporarily: Many people (assuming they have any $$$ left) will go out and buy big ticket items in an effort to AVOID the VAT that’s coming down the pike! That’ll boost Wall Street temporarily… We can look forward to more red-white-blue “AMERICA REBOUNDS” front covers on rags like Time and Newsweek.
These guys are just chock-full of GREAT IDEAS, aren’t they?
WTF- Obama said if they pass the “stimulus” bill unemployment won’t go above 8%. So timmy the economy is recovering better than anyone expected. How stupid do they think we are?
VAT + Income Tax = Taxation twice Representation Once. Sounds constitutional to me.
Nice toupee!
You know he is lying — like all Dems, his lips were moving.
VAT=VALUE ADDED TAX/we know it has nothing to do with value.,what value is added by putting more tax on property.,see they know that we know.,that’s why they wont do it. its not deceitful enough for them.,
they like doing things like saying the bank will pay fees to fund their own bail out for too big to fail plan., of course some of us know that’s bs..banks will just pass w/e they pay along to the customer.,they like tricky stuff lik that. keep up the pressure.,its either them or us.,,
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And money grows on trees!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! This guy is so funny. My boss is spending money like crazy, with huge deficiets. But dont worry people were going to bring all these deficits down with with a magic wand. Get real.
I told Tim to pay his taxes but he said he “had friends in high places” and not to worry about it.
I also told him to answer questions without questions, but he is so very smart that he doesn’t have to.
Tim was one of my best students.
They, the Obama administraion and the Democrats/Statists just forced on us, the American people, this massive healthcare monstrosity that economic experts at the Health and Human Services Department will increase the nation’s health care tab instead of bringing costs down. Obama has quadrupled the debt. When they passed the stimulus bill they said unemployment would not go above 8%, but now they say the new norm for unemployment will be around 10%. Tim (Tax Cheat) Geithner says regarding the VAT tax, “The president does not support [it], but we all recognize that our deficits are too high and we’ve got to bring them down.” Yet, Obama said it might be a novel idea for this country but he’ll have to take a look at it. These Statists are going to try to force upon us the VAT tax after the election, when his commission makes it’s report in December. Obama will blame it on the commission. Other taxes will be increasing in 2011 according to Geithner.
Geitner left out a few words. One is “YET”! The others are “but queen pelosi, dingy harry, blarney fwank, babs boxer, and the rest of the libRETARDED LOONS now serving in congress do”! NOVEMBER 2010, 2012!
If the libs perceive that a VAT will dull that aspect of taxes that are give-aways to pals and supporters, they do not like it. But of course a VAT can always be constructed to help or penalize. A VAT would have to have a very large rebate, refund, tax credit, etc., to give low incomers unearned wealth. ….And that is what it is all about.
Let’s see if I get this straight: Democrats go on their unholy spending spree, plunging this country into this hideous deficit, and now Democrats want to punish the voters…who have said over and over…no to the spending?!!
Raise the taxes on those who voted this piece of garbage into office. Raise the taxes on the congresspeople who voted for these spending excesses.
If they raise this VAT, everything is going to come to dead stop in this country. Entrepreneurship, innovation, investment in business…everything.
This is unacceptable and is showing just how desperate Obama is about what he’s done and how he’s trashed our economy. He wanted to make us a third world nation and now he’s scared. Send him back to Kenya where he would fit right in. He sure doesn’t fit in here.
heres an idea. what if we round up everyone who is responsible for our economic mess, send them to jail, confiscate all the money that they made from their greed. imagine the billions of dollars that could be taken and put towards the deficit. why aren’t these people in jail yet??????????
I hate vat too it will just make us worry about our expenses good thing obama doesn’t support it
Sounds like the people who posted on this thread don’t understand the benefits of replacing the Federal Income tax with a VAT.
1) It would completely eliminate the need for the IRS.
2) Basic food and necessities are excluded from the VAT.
3) Every individual can basically control the amount of VAT they will pay by controlling their spending on products that carry a VAT.
4) It would eliminate the IRS (yes, I know I said this already, but c’mon, imagine no more IRS!)
5) The concept of a VAT has been proven effective in many other industrialized countries.
6) Wealthy individuals who now avoid paying any taxes because of loopholes only available to the wealthy, will finally have to pay their fair share.
The only people who should resist the concept of replacing our income tax with a VAT are very high net worth individuals. Everyone else would be better off. If you’re against the VAT, and your not very wealthy, you’re only hurting yourself
UMMMM!!! Did they not just plan to hire 19,000 new employee’s? And please do tell what tax the govt has stopped in the past? I think you are simply and Ozombie trying to find reason in an area where there is no reason. Do we still blame bush for the spending? for how much longer? Has any president ever blamed so often as this president? or for so long?
I don’t believe anything that comes out of this slimy administration. Like all liberals, they lie and anything can change on any given moment to get there agenda passed.
This Vat trial baloon was launched because it is a great way to redistribute wealth. With a tax added at each value addition it is so regressive for the “poor” that the gov to be “fair” would of course exempt them. How? a check each month from the gov to offset the tax. Take from the “rich” transfer to the “poor”
Step one: SPEND. SPEND. SPEND. LIE. LIE. LIE. Spend some more. Even more. Set up even more entitlements.
Step two: WHINE. WHINE. WHINE. WHINGE. WHINGE. WHINGE. DEFICIT TOO HIGH (GEE, NO KIDDING)
STEP THREE: HERE IT COMES. RAISE TAXES. RAISE TAXES. RAISE TAXES. ON EVERYBODY. NOT ENOUGH.
STEP FOUR: LIE ABOUT NOT LIKING A VAT WHEN WE ALL KNOW YOU LOVE IT EVER SINCE EMANUEL RAHN MENTIONED IT AND YOU HIRED HIM.
STEP FOUR: SELL bunch of stupid progressives on a VAT of 5%. (“you’ll hardly even notice it”).
STEP FIVE: INCREASE THE VAT TO 15%.
STEP SIX: SPEND. SPEND. SPEND. SPEND.SPEND.SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND.
STOP SPENDING, START RESIGNING
Not to worry if they enact a ‘VAT’ on tanning sessions in salons and other gilded lilies cosmetic procedures.
Two of their most valued customers’ boehner and orielly will lustfully pay it.
Some advice-tone down the orange a tad.
What poetic justice.
So far during “The Ones” reign of oppression, every thing he says he’s not going to do, he has done, so keep your eyes on the other hand.
I will bet a dollar to a doughnut that he is already scheming behind the scenes with SEIU and others to get the VAT bill written and passed, of course unions and a select few others like ACORN, the DNC, et al will be exempt from paying it.
GWB during those wonderful eight yrs DOUBLED the national debt with that useless, unlawful war, unfunded tax cuts to his wealthy pals, unfunded Rx Part D benefits–results–empty pockets
So we borrow from our good friends–the Chinese–adding to an already bloated deficit.
What a great strategist, accountant and an all around definitive steward of the country’s finances.
And he was elected TWICE!
But his old ass is out of office and he’s in Crawford clearing brush while the rest of us suffer for the cerberal voids and moronic blunders he and his cohorts thrust upon the disenfranchised citizens.
Yea, doesn’t it just hurt your feelings to add a tax to the ‘necessities of self gratifications’ the affluent have been enjoying and now how to pay extra when they go for a skin rejuvenation or an artificial tan. The best part, they ant gonna bitch, just you drones that hate Obama. Bet none of them shelled out for a ‘bush urinal’.
“THE DEVIL HIMSELF” can’t resist TANNING SALON jokes. WHAT A LOSER!
Ever notice how, when the Lib-Opposition has no legit arguments, they ALWAYS resort to attacking a person’s PHYSICAL APPEARANCE???? LOSERS!
Attacking a person’s PHYSICAL APPEARANCE?? YOU should read some of your cronies posts and listen more astutely to your blob-in-chief on the EIB if you want condemnation and vicious attacks of one’s looks, demeanor and name. Barney Frank comes to mind.
Your full of gall, the only loser are orielly and boehner cause the sessions do not enhance their beauty and you cause of your nonsensical answer.
I find it a compelling argument that two ultra wealthy GOP ‘defenders of the righteous’ will be mum on this VAT issue cause it doesn’t affect them–period. It would be so hypocritical of them to malign this tax when they are among the affluent who avail and indulge themselves so passionately in gilded gratifications.
I was begining to worry that the bimbo sitting next to the Smoe wouldnt ask a question. She sure is a journlistic prize for MSNBC, the network that put ignitors in pick up trucks so as to explode when they wouldnt naturally.
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The idiots in the WH need to get together to get their lies right. This moron looks worse and worse every time I see him!