Former Bush ‘Axis of Evil’ Speechwriter Gets Physical With 9-11 Truthers

"I don't want to be on your camera."

April 30, 2008 at 6:58 am - YouTube
Dateline: Los Angeles, CA

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syn   April 30th, 2008 - 7:40 am

Ah Troofers, these evil ones believe that by using the word ‘neocon’ they can hide their hatred of Jewish people.

A 9/11 Truther is the extreme and extreme meeting in harmony.

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Jim   April 30th, 2008 - 9:23 am

They were far too polite with this kook. He needed his camera destroyed, and he needed to be spanked all the way home. Call me next time. I’d love to do the honors.

Bob   April 30th, 2008 - 9:54 am

The 9/11 report is complete and published and no one broke the law! Democrats and Republicans work in the governement. Who do you blame? Clinton? Bush? Both…or do you blame the phucking jihadist chicken sheet idiots who continue to kill ANYONE who doesn’t follow their version of Shara law?

BTW, if a woman is dressed to kill, it is her fault she was raped?????

Dave   April 30th, 2008 - 10:10 am

Trying to debate a 9/11 “troofer” is like trying to debate a holocaust denier….no matter how overwhelming the evidence, they really aren’t interested in the truth…they have a political agenda and they refuse to budge from it, truth be damned.

Kevin   April 30th, 2008 - 10:48 am

Of course David Frum is a front for the Illuminati, the New World Order, and the Bohemian Grove.

Richard   April 30th, 2008 - 1:06 pm

Jim wrote:

“Call me next time. I’d love to do the honors.”

Oh, I’m sure you would, Jim. Absolutely sure. Just like all the people who defend the lie of 9-11, you’re nothing more than a filthy little wannabe jack-booted fascist thug. You’re just a typical anti-America scum.

Syn wrote:

” their hatred of Jewish people.”

Well, Syn, thanks for pointing out that neo-cons are nothing more than crazed zionists. In fact, without crazed zionists there would be no “neo-conservativism.” Also, thanks for pointing out that “anti-semitism” is nothing more than an empty charge wielded recklessly towards anyone who questions the savage brutality of the Israeli state.

Really, thank you. Please, keep up your hard work. With luck, more people will begin to realize that the epithet “anti-semite” just means things like “compassionate”, “civilized”, “humane.”

Digusted   April 30th, 2008 - 1:17 pm

What a stupid idiot this so-called filmaker is….it is obvious he is just wanting to make a scene to everyone who views this video, no matter which side of the fence you stand on, because he made sure he was at Mr. Frum’s speech, then his book signing to disrupt and ensure he brought forth his views to the others attending. It’s too bad he wasn’t arrested for disruption. He was asked numerous times to leave and didn’t.
Instead of disrupting, he should have made an appointment with Mr. Frum, like any sane person would do, THEN ask/film his questions. This is exactly why I do not agree with radicals with either party….they trade on disruption of the public!

Richard   April 30th, 2008 - 1:20 pm

Dave wrote:

“.no matter how overwhelming the evidence, they really aren’t interested in the truth”

Come on, now, Dave. You know perfectly well that there is no “overwhelming evidence” implicating Al Qaida in the attacks of September 11, 2001. There’s not sufficient evidence to convict Osama Bin Laden of anything in a court of law.

Now there is substantial evidence, however, to demonstrate either incompetence of complicity on the part of the FAA and the US Air Force. However, following the single biggest failure of the US Air Force in its entire history (a failure that made the US Navy’s failure at Pearl Harbor seem like a small error), there was no investigation whatsoever of our own Air Force.

Clearly, the highest ranking officer of the Air Force on September 11, 2001 should have been dismissed for his demonstrated inability to protect US air space. The entire organization should have been shook up. But no, General Myers was not only kept on the job.. he was promoted.

The same goes with George Tenet, leader of the CIA during its biggest failure in its existence. What happened to him? He was kept on, assured us the WMD case against Saddam was a “slam-dunk”, and then was awarded the presidential medal of freedom!

Yes, such amazing performers! These guys commit some of the biggest mistakes in US history, through their incompetence or worse leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans. I’ve gotten in more trouble for speeding.

Richard   April 30th, 2008 - 1:33 pm

Let’s just review:

1) Arabs living in caves cannot give the US Air Force orders to not investigate or intercept hijacked planes.

2) Arabs living in caves are not able to shut down the defenses of the Pentagon, the most secure building in the world, long after two hijacked planes have kamikazied into two buildings.

3) No foreign, indepedent demolition experts are able to explain how building 7 was able to miraculously collapse with only minor fire damage.

4) Osama Bin Laden is very unlikely to have the capability to pressure the US government to not investigate the collapse of the buildings.

5) Al Qaida is not able to shut down all of the Pentagon’s air defense capabilities nor dozens of video cameras which monitor the exterior of the building.

6) There was insufficient potential energy stored within the structures of WTC 1 and WTC 2 to finely pulverize its concrete into micron sized dust. This is simple physics, people. Take a block of concrete, hit it with hammers.. drop it from the height of the top of WTC. Drop it repeatedly.. you won’t get dust. You’ll get rather large pieces.

7) All the “live footage” of planes hitting the building appear to be altered with in some way, for what purpose we don’t know.

9/11 is the ultimate fraud. You have to be in a serious case of denial, evasion, or merely willful ignorance to believe the official story.

Richard   April 30th, 2008 - 1:43 pm

Furthermore, we know that the Federal Government and the City of New York deliberately lied to the people of New York about the dangers of the asbestos filled dust that covered lowered manhattan.

And interestingly, Mayor Guiliani’s office not only rapidly destroyed the evidence (the collapsed building components) they astonishingly prohibited all photography of the scene in the days following the attack. Why was photography prohibited? According to the mayor’s office it was because 9/11 was a crime scene. Interesting. I’ve never, ever heard of photography being prohibited at a crime scene. In fact, usually it is crime scenes that we want to photograph and investigate! But not in the case of the single largest loss of civilian life in US history!

Every single piece of those buildings should have been saved and preserved in order to fully ascertain what caused those buildings to fail, so that important lessons could be learned. Following the explosion of TWA Flight 800, divers scoured the bottom of the ocean for pieces and re-assembled the plane in a warehouse in order to investigate. There should have been an effort to save all the evidence from the WTC on 9/11, a goddamn museum should have been built to display every piece as a memorial to the victims.

What did they do? They melted almost all of it down.

No photographs allowed, all evidence destroyed.

To believe the official 9/11 story is to betray your own country.

E390   April 30th, 2008 - 2:41 pm

Richard it sounds like you have inhaled to much of the chem trails. I am surprised you have internet access while receiving treatment. I feel sorry for you having to live such a paranoid life. Good luck and keep up on your meds.

Tubby   April 30th, 2008 - 5:10 pm

Truthers are idiots. If 911 was in an inside job there would have been detonating cord found in the rubble. What if the pre set explosives didnt bring down the buildings but only collapsed part of them…then what? Also, it takes months of pre demolition work and weakening the structure you plan to implode before you do the job. As far as I know no pre demolition work was done to the WTC under the noses of the 50,000 people that work there. Also, the USA would have had an Iraqi or two as patsy high jackers in the cock pits to justify our eventual operation Iraqi freedom actions.

Richard   April 30th, 2008 - 7:04 pm

E390:

Hey, I really love your comment! Let’s see, I bring up facts which anyone can easily verify by their own research. You can’t challenge any of them. So you result to insults.

Thanks for making my case look stronger to those who are unbiased. Those who have a delusional world view, and are unable to find support for that world view in reality, always result to empty attacks on the sane around them.

Tubby:

Please look up the meaning of “non-sequitur.” The inability to find detonating cord, particularly in a pile of evidence that has been destroyed, does not necessarily verify the authenticity of the official story.

Secondly, both WTC 1 and WTC 2 were suffering from extremely high vacancy rates, entire floors were empty. I’ve worked in many buildings and heard extensive construction work occuring on many floors and never stopped what I was doing to closely investigate just what was going on.

Your entire argument seems to be like this: “I do not believe that WTC 1 and WTC could have been destroyed in one, narrowly defined and specific way… therefore the official story is legit.”

I’m sorry, my friend. But that’s bad logic.

Tubby   April 30th, 2008 - 9:42 pm

Richard, please look up the meaning of “moonbat.”

All you’re really saying is you don’t have proof of anything you say, just random strung together happenstances that create an illusion of a coherent plan by some insidious invisiable government.

Give me a break; thousands of man hours sifting through rubble and no evidence of any type of blasting caps, detonationg cord, electronic detonators? They found the smallest bone fragments and tiny little personal effects of victims in the rubble but nothing to back up what you say about a controlled demolision? How weak.

High vacancy rates? So only 30,000 people instead of 50,000 were there to witness any sort of strange or unusual activity? Gosh, it’s not like removing and hauling away support beams, walls, tons of building materials and rivets, while lacing explosives in voids and around offices would be all that hard to notice. Is there any reports of people working in the building hearing any sort of “extensive construction work” weeks or months before 9-11? I’v never heard of any.

Again, what if the plan failed? What if the buildings did not collapse due to a miscalculation? What if the WTCs were only extensivly damaged by the explosions but did not fall down? Then what? There would be two huge building being combed through by hundreds of rescue and construction workers finding evidence of a controlled demolision. Do you really think the government would risk that possibility? I don’t.

The bottom line is the so called “truthers” have had almost seven years to have someone come forward and say they were involved in this controlled demolision…no one is comming forward. I thought the “high jackers” were all CIA plants and alive and well in Egypt and places in the middle east, why do we never see them on TV?

What happened to the jet air craft? Did they fly to bohemian grove and all the passangers turned into shape shifting salamander people?

Would the government attempt to pull off this grand conspiracy in broad day light with millions of eyes on the sceen and hundreds of video and still photographs there to catch any glitch?

Your theories are way to outlandish and far fetched to warrant any sort of logic.

Richard, good luck in life you despicable abject moron.

Richard   May 1st, 2008 - 12:38 am

Tubby, Tubby..

You’re prone to the wild accusations, fantastic theories, crazy assumptions, shoddy reasoning skills, and wild hostility possessed by all those who try to defend crazy conspiracy theories.. the craziest being the official story put forth about the events of 9/11. I’m not sure there’s much that I can do for you, as this is clearly a conspiracy theory that you feel desperately needs to be defended, and any stretches of logic, reasoning, and fact are seemingly acceptable for you to defend your lunatic notion.

Being that I’m a patriotic citizen willing to help my country and my fellow citizens, I’ll again take the high road and try to reason with you, by going through your more silly claims.

“please look up the meaning of “moonbat.””

I know very well the meaning of moonbat, it refers to a political zealot of the extreme left. Sorry, Tubby, I’m on the political right (unlike anyone in the Bush administration, and certainly unlike those “neoconservatives” who found authentic conservativism to be antagonistic with their fantastic fascist notions.)

” thousands of man hours sifting through rubble and no evidence of any type of blasting caps, detonationg cord, electronic detonators? They found the smallest bone fragments and tiny little personal effects of victims in the rubble but nothing to back up what you say about a controlled demolision? ”

Thanks for pointing out that the tiniest bone fragments were found. Yes, human bodies were somehow subjected to energy levels that pulverized bones into fine slivers. Not sure why you’d expect there to be this abundance of blasting caps left in that mess, and why they’d be so clearly distinct from the fragments of computers, telephones, xerox machines, and so forth. How many of the laborers sent in to merely haul away the waste really know the difference between a tiny piece of blasting cap and some circuit out of a computer? Your argument is really weak, you know?

Furthermore, if you’re really so convinced that there was no evidence of blasting caps and other demolition material, how about you and I go take a look through all the recovered material of the biggest crime scene in American history? I’m sure it must be stored someplace, surely they wouldn’t destroy such important stuff, would they?

As to building 7, I’m unsure as to why you’d expect that all the material in it was finely sifted; there was no expected to be any victims found in that pile as the building was evacuated before it defied the laws of physics and neatly collapsed after a large number of intense explosions.

Lastly, I did not suggest that 1 & 2 & 7 were blown up by any specific means, so again we get back to the point that your entire argument is a complete non-sequitur. (Clearly you weren’t able to understand the meaning of that term.)

As you know, I made very little in terms of claims as to how the events unfolded on that day. And all the points I raised on the subject that are worthy of investigation you’ve deftly avoided. I don’t blame you. You’re trying to defend a belief that is incongruous with reality. This naturally prompts you to engage in evasion, magical thinking, distortions, and hostility.

I’ll say it again: September 11, 2001, was the biggest failure in the history of the United States Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency. The failure was so massive, the negligence so gross that both agencies should have been cored and shook up to astonishing levels.

The Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Air Force, all the top brass of the air force, should have been fired and quite possibly much worse. The entire Air Force should have been reorganized and the change should have been felt all the way down to faculty members at the Air Force Academy. We are talking about a huge, unprecedented failure in a multi-billion dollar organization that has one simple purpose: projecting power via the air and defending the US from attacks from the air.

On Sept 11 the United States Air Force demonstrated to the entire world that it is completely unable to defend the air space of the United States, unable even to defend the headquarters of the United States military and the US capitol, a full hour after the first news of the hijackings.

I do not know how people like you can just dismiss this away, I’m sure your head is filled with so many layers of denial and delusions at this point that you’d believe just about anything you were told by CNN.

“The bottom line is the so called “truthers” have had almost seven years to have someone come forward and say they were involved in this controlled demolision…no one is comming forward”

That’s very interesting, Tubby. Tell me, what would be your response if someone came up to you and “confessed” to their involvement in 9/11? Do you think CNN would put such a person on Larry King Live? Why would someone come forward?

This is just one of the crazy, fantastic notions put forward by lunatics such as yourself. “Oh, people can’t keep secrets!” “Oh, someone would have come forward!” The first statement is rendered false by history (for decades, the NSA existed with the majority of congress not even being aware of it) and the second statement is just a wild assertion on par with, “of course the sun revolves around the earth!” or “If dogs don’t go to heaven, where do they go?”

“Would the government attempt to pull off this grand conspiracy in broad day light with millions of eyes on the sceen and hundreds of video and still photographs there to catch any glitch?”

In fact, there are vast numbers of glitches, inconsistencies, and even impossibilities visible on any number of videos from that day. I take it that you’ve never even investigated the photographic or video evidence, have you?

“What happened to the jet air craft? ”

What a ridiculous thing to ask me, and I can only laugh because I’m sure you typed that with some kind of triumphal feeling. I don’t know anything about any planes, where they may have came from and where they may have gone. Nor did I make and claims about any planes.

Did you skip your meds today, Tubby? I’m afraid that in addition to your blatant non-sequiturs that you’re also just randomly attempting to counter allegations that haven’t been made. You’re like a dumb kid who announces to his mother on her return, “it wasn’t me who stole the cookies from the cookie jar!”

“Your theories are way to outlandish and far fetched to warrant any sort of logic.”

My theories? See, there you go again, talking about things that you have no evidence for. I brought up no theories whatsoever. I merely said that I do not believe the official version of events. The evidence is completely lacking, the logic is ridiculous, the investigation non-existent. There’s no compelling proof whatsoever that the events of 9/11 are in any way congruous with the official explanation. None.

I offered you no theories that you could claim were outlandish or far-fetched.

God, it must feel horrible for you to realize deep inside that you have been lied to, that you have been misled, that the reality painted for you by the MSM and the government is a complete fantasy. You’re like a cult member who clings to the leaders divinity despite all evidence to the contrary.

No wonder you call me despicable. It’s the kind of thing you expect from a brainwashed person who feels his delusional and fragile world view beginning to fragment the moment anyone tries to question it with facts and logic.

Good luck, my friend.

Richard   May 1st, 2008 - 12:45 am

Those who would like more information on 9/11 can contact me at rowevwade at gmail dot com

Jason   May 1st, 2008 - 5:55 am

This is for anyone interested in the truth.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1

Bill   May 1st, 2008 - 12:55 pm

And don’t forget to check out “Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory”, which shows how ridiculous the above mentioned “Special Report” really is.

http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209660865&sr=8-1

Tubby   May 1st, 2008 - 5:04 pm

Richard, thanks for taking the “high road” and responding to my questions. When you decide to come down off your high road and rejoin us here on planet earth simply make your way to the nearest mental institution and all well be well.

To be blunt; for all your pretend fact finding abilities and your self styled sleuthiness you are wrong about 9-11, sadly and tragically wrong.

Richard   May 1st, 2008 - 8:09 pm

Tubby,

Thanks again for making my point! Those, like you, who believe in this outrageous theory put forth by the government, when confronted with facts, when confronted with logic, always evade issues and result to ad hominem.

I know the official myth is comforting to believe. Who wants to believe that Americans could be involved in a crime like 9-11? So much more comforting to believe that it’s just some foreigners who “hate us for our freedoms.”

The 9-11 crime was rather bold and impressive, and I’m sure the people behind it are no more troubled by the number of Americans they’ve killed than they are troubled by the number of Americans they’ve killed in Iraq. Iraq, an absolutely pointless war, has already cost us far more lives of innocent Americans than 9-11.

But both serve the strategic desires of those who were responsible for them. The well-being of Americans is irrelevant.

But they sure have done one hell of an amazing psych-op on people like you. Hell, here you are defending the monsters who’ve now managed to kill nearly 8,000 of your fellow citizens.

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