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The Long Form would assuage us. And sprinkle it with college docs.
Barrack Obama Hates White People

There IS a simple solution…

Why would anyone not believe the press and the White House after all of the whitewashing of Obama in the past? Gibbs said that Obama did not bow. Well, Obama did bow. Gibbs said that he did not call the police stupid. Obama did call the police stupid. So if by chance Obama does have a legitimate birth certificate is it any wonder that he and his press companions will not be believed? These guys are proven and repetitive liars. Obama is a socialist. Nothing will get around the facts that Obama is a very very very bad leader.

Gee whiz, didn’t Tran Coultergeist just throw all you nutjobs under the bus already with this crap?? Obviously the GOP base preoccupied with false rumors about a piece of paper from Hawaii- hasn’t been outta WORK long enough. Obviously the GOP base- just as broke as I am- hasn’t waited enough long hours in emergency rooms for Health care! Obviously the GOP base- hasn’t missed enough descent meals to kick these LOSER GOP SENATOR BUMS outta office! Just wait, by the 2010 elections the GOP will experience ANOTHER PURGE!

Hey dopey, we don’t want to see the one you are showing. We want to see the live certificate of birth. Any fool can get the one you are passing off as the real deal. You don’t have to be born in Hawaii to get that one stupid.

Sure, it’s probably just a rumor, but it’s odd how he’s been behaving. How many minutes would it take to call the governor of Hawaii and have him release the actual, complete BC rather than the incomplete modern printout that’s been released? Why has he fought in court to avoid making that phone call? I don’t understand what his thinking is: that he just likes riling people so they don’t pay attention to his agenda, maybe?

Someone should just ask Mr. Gibbs, “Why doesn’t he release his original BC?” It’s a very simple question for which I’ve seen no good answer.

A few other points. A birth announcement in a paper is not proof of location of birth. Grandma could have posted the announcement in her local paper regardless of the place of birth. A posted picture of a birth certificate is not proof. Likewise, we also dont have proof that he was born elsewhere. Just a lot of speculations.

Gibbs is a liar. He says he put the “Birth Certificate on the internet”. He did not. The document on the internet, the Certificate of Live Birth, can be obtained by Hawaii residents who gave birth abroad.

SHOW THE ORIGINAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps they are afraid of exposing that Obama is a liar and a criminal who has no right to be President.

For $15 dollars you can get an internet address and say whatever you want……
And for $15 Million of George Soros’s cash you can get the White House and have a knob like Gibbs lie for you!
Hope and Change FOR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY (verp)

The King of Transparency hides his long form birth certificate, his passport, and his college records – Why? What logical reason
could there be to hide all these things except they contain something very bad. And, Gibbs? He is a dolt and a child – I am
surprised he didn’t just say, “Nanny-nanny boo-boo”.

Methinks he doth protest too much.
Just show the long-form birth certificate;
Name the doctor who delivered him;
Decide which hospital he claims to have been born at (he’s claimed two);
Release his official passport;
Release his college info;
Release his client list while a lawyer;
In short, release all the info the media demanded for Bush, McCain, and every other GOP candidate.
They had no trouble discovering (and publishing) all kinds of info on Joe the Plumber just hours after his question of Obama…what’s the big deal with ‘discovering’ all this stuff about Obama?
Is there something to hide?

There is a simple solution Gibbs, SHOW the cert and get it over with. Put it on display. If you cant display we aren’t going away.

$2,000,000 to defend against showing “US” whether he was born here or “IS” a Muslim by birth.

An officer who demands to see the BC prior to deploying is then not deployed and his employer is CONTACTED by the JD and he is then fired.

Which one does he find more FRIGHTENING to reveal to “US”?

Even though I’m not a supported of Barrack Obama, the question of his citizenship probably isn’t the reason we’re not getting to see his certified birth certificate. Barrack Obama is a citizen, regardless of his birthplace. If his mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, Barrack Obama would be a citizen of the USA, even if he was born in Kenya.

I believe the reason he’s not releasing the certified birth certificate is because of his race. Since his mother is Caucasian, I’m willing to bet his birth certificate lists him as Caucasian as well.

Jimmy V – sell your computer and quit paying for e-mail service. You should have a few extra dollars to eat. (Like we’re supposed to believe your troubles) Sheesh — enough with the sputum already !!

Obama or probably taxpayers have spent over $1 million in legal fees to avoid showing the
public a real birth certificate. They tried to pawn off a certificate of live birth (COLB)
but it was quickly found to be a low quality forgery. CNN is saying the BC was destroyed?
What are you hiding Obama? Most corrupt President and fastest failure in history. In addition,
Obama is not natural born or eligble because his father was not a citizen. You are a
ineligible fraud Hussein.

“You can fool some of the People all of the time, and all of the People some of

the time, BUT YOU CAN’T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.”

Prove it………….

I’m proud to be called a Birther, even if he is born here I still wonder about all the other unanswered questions about his college records, travel to Packy-stan etc. He is a fraud.

A few examples of fictional nonsense:
1) Global Warming is real
2) Cap and Trade will make things better and not cost more money
3) Universal Health Care will not cost more
4) Universal Health Care is better
5) Obama did not bow
6) Obama is not a socialist
7) Obama did not call the police stupid
Obama will create millions more jobs
9) Obama does not lie
10) Obama is not a racist
11) Obama did not attend a racist church
12) Obama does not have thug friends in Chicago

Simple questions for the “New Era of Transparancy” administration:

At which hospital in Honolulu was Mr. Soetoro-Obama born?

Who was the attending physician?

Under which name did Mr. Soetoro-Obama attend college?

Did he receive a scholarship or other financial aide as a foreign student?

When he traveled to Pakistan during a period when the United States had imposed travel restrictions on this country, what did Mr. Soetoro-Obama use for a passport and visa to enter the country?

(translation) We’re too busy screwing up the government to take time to ask for the REAL birth certificate….

Gibbs ignores the fact that the “Certificate of Live Birth” issued by Obama staffers is the short form. The
vault copy birth certificate includes the name of the hospital and attending physician. That’s the one we all have
to submit when we apply for a passport. Obama should meet the same standard as all other citizens. Besides,
Hawaii was a new state in 1961, and loopholes in state laws made it possible for children of immigrants not born
in Hawaii to still get a “Certificate of Live Birth”. More $$$ from the federal government that way. The
promise of federal programs was one way to get the people of Hawaii to vote for statehood in the first place.

SHOW US THE VAULT COPY, MR. PRESIDENT!!!

How can anyone believe a factcheck post on BO. Annenberg anybody. Just show us your proof. Never happen because it’s not there. If it was this would be over. Why spend all that money keeping the courts at bay (for now). By the way who’s money has been spend defending this anyway? Up to $1,000,000 so far with much more to go. Now show us the money source too.

For $15 he could put the issue to rest….. He may very well be a bonafide citizen, but the question has not and will not go away until he produces it.

Whar’s the cert?

Show me the cert, boy !!

William, if he was born outside of the US he is not eligible to be President. If you are born abroad “BOTH” your parents must be US citizens.

Yeah, like i’m supposed to believe Gibbs??? HAHAHAAAA

Gibbs IS indeed a DICK…… “Birthers”…is that supposed to insult me? Why don’t you “morons” follow the Constitution …what he posted on the internet is NOT a birth certificate….you may be able to fool those morons in the press room but you can’t fool those of us that have researched the facts. To be fair, perhaps, President Obama was born in Hawaii. If that is the case then show us a real birth certificate or STFU.

You birthers are idiots. You should be institutionalized, because you’re obviously not intelligent enough to function in modern society. You likely believe the Nigerian prince will put $30 million USD in your bank account and that Bill Gates will give you $100 for every e-mail you forward.

BTW, it cracks me up how many people who’ve never even visited Hawai’i now claim to be experts in Hawai’ian state records. You’re all dolts.

gibbs – talk is cheap

there is a very easy solution to back up obama defender words

RELEASE OBAMA RECORDS

PROVE WHAT YOU AND OBAMA SAY ARE NOT LIES

PROVE IT !!!!!!!

VERY easy to assuage us, Gibby! Produce an actual BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NOT a Certificate of Live Birth which has been shown it can be filed AFTER the fact. Tell us WHAT hospital Obama was born in! The White House has told us TWO DIFFERENT hospitals! And one that claimed he was born there and publicized it on their website REMOVED that claim from their website when the White House started claiming ANOTHER hospital. And SO many more inconsistencies! But then I guess all the INCONSISTENCIES are “CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!”

Two Honolulu newspapers listed Obama as being born there. Birth announcements are provided by the hospital to the newspaper. They don’t list out of town births in among local births. So how did Obama manage to get his name into those two newspapers? Did the Freemason do it because they knew he’s one day be POTUS?

Anybody can easily order a certified copy of his or her original birth certificate. It’s fictional nonsense to think otherwise. In Hawaii, the fee is $10 and the certificate is mailed within days of the request.

And for 25 dollars Obama could get a copy of his birth certificate and assuage us til his heart’s content …

“If his mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, Barrack Obama would be a citizen of the USA, even if he was born in Kenya.”

That’s not true. Although “natural born” has never been defined definitively by the Supreme Court it is generally accepted that BOTH parents must be American citizens if born outside of the U.S. to qualify as a natural born citizen. I believe you’re confusing citizenship with “natural born” citizenship

SF – No defense, no Facts, no intelligent debate just insults.

BTW how you doing today Mr. President, oops, I mean SF.

Saw you’re at -10 today, not bad, up from -11 yesterday:-)

SF@2:55pm

How TYPICAL of kool aid drinking Obamaites!

When you don’t have 2 brain cells to rub together or a shred of logic or any evidence, you simply go to ad hominem attacks (Now I know that you don’t have a clue what that means, so let me help you. It means you go straight to personal attacks.)

How typical of a mind numbed, kool aid drinking, Obama liberal!! Geez!!

Yes, $15 will get you a website…and for $10 he could show us the Certificate of Live Birth. Question…notice how Gibbs continues to say BHO is a citizen of the USA and never a natural born citizen?

What a wasted post SF.
Other than being yet another glittering example of a Liberal with no facts so resorts to name calling and “Virtual Fact Invention” i.e. none of you have been to Hawaii……WTF? I’ve never been to the moon either, but I know there’s no oxygen there – DUH!
You must be the Senior Staffer on Pelosi’s Team there in SF.

Gigglin’ Gibbs wouldn’t recognize “God’s honest truth” if it stepped up and bit him, as he has never met it before.

Obama had (and has) two choices:

1) Spend millions of dollars and months hding and fighting the release of one simple piece of paper (not to mention dozens of other documents, all related to his past and true nationality);

-OR-

2) Spend 5 minutes to display the document and put this issue to rest forever.

Which road did he choose?

The question SHOULD have been, “If the president has nothing to hide, why is he hiding?”

Harpo, According the the State Department website, a child born to a non-citizen parent and a citizen parent who had been in the United States for at least 10 years with at least 5 of them being after the age of 14 would be eligible for citizenship at birth.

From The United States Department of State website.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

Gibbs, the document you posted with the community agitator’s former (Annenberg) employer is a document that certifies there is an original document in possession of the Department of Vital Records … it looks exactly like THIS.

We’ll go away when we see the one you were issued by the hospital of your birth. It will have your doctor’s signature.

Notice how he invoked GOD and the LORD to help bolster his statements (some might say “lies”)????

The first COLB posted on Obama’s FightTheSmears website was an electronic forgery. It was digitally manipulated using Adobe Photoshop on a Machintosh CS3. The second version with stamp and a signature was a photo of the document. Show me the original Birth Certificate and passport records and I’ll shut-up.

If this is such a stream of “ridiculous” questions, why not address the questions? Instead, Gibbs/the Obama White House are attempting to ridicule by ruin each and every question by ruining those who pose the questions.

Even IF Obama was actually born in Hawaii, that does not define him as a natural-born citizen (which is the Constitutional requirement for the Presidency, to be both a U.S. Citizen AND a natural-born U.S. Citizen).

This is due to Obama’s mother’s not qualifying for to bestow natural-born citizenship on Obama due to her age at the time of his birth AND the fact that she had limited U.S. residency prior to.

ALSO of key importance is that Obama became an Indonesian citizen when adopted by Mr. Soetoro in Indonesia (Obama’s FIRST husband, because the first ruse with Mr. Obama from Africa was not legitimate and many think it was faked — even Michelle Obama let slip a year+ ago that Obama’s “mother was [unmarried]” when he was born).

There are far too many REASONABLE QUESTIONS that create REASONABLE DOUBT about Obama’s legitimacy for the Presidency and these questions merit reasonable responses. NOT the ridicule from the hapless Gibbs who seems to think that laughing at people with questions (which he does about nearly all people with any questions) is somehow supportable.

Gibbs and the Obama White House, if that’s even what it is, are the ridiculous ones in this issue. They don’t respect the American people, quite clearly.

Mr. Gibbs: “Made-up fictional nonsense…” These are the words of one who has something to hide. If it is
really made-up and fictional, then show us the actual Hawaiian document that would be accepted by
Hawaiian officials when applying for a driver’s license. As such, the current document would not suffice.
So don’t call it “made-up and fictional nonsense” unless you can produced such a document.

Secondly, the “10,000 things” that you claim are more important, absolutely pale in comparison to having a
usurper President in office!

You people have no clue, which is obvious. I’m a lifetime member of the NRA. I attended the REPUBLICAN Convention. I voted for John McCain.

But this birther crap is looney bin material. Every second you waste on this ridiculous conspiracy theory is one where you’ve taken your eyes off the important issues facing our nation. Real issues, not the rantings of the crackpots in the GOP.

William, you said, “…been in the United States for at least 10 years with at least 5 of them being after the age of 14 would be eligible for citizenship at birth.”

THANK YOU for proving that he could not have been a citizen because of his mother. If I am not mistaken, she was 18 when he was born. Therefore, she could NOT have spent 5 years in the US after the age of 14!!

THANK YOU for PROVING the very thing you were arguing against!!

“BTW, it cracks me up how many people who’ve never even visited Hawai’i now claim to be experts in Hawai’ian state records. You’re all dolts.”

I’ve vacationed in Hawaii several times and have friends who live there. However, one not need live or have visited a state to understand it’s laws.

Maryland was issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, until the Federal gov’t intervened, so they could participate in society. So, don’t sit there and tell me it’s impossible for a state to engage in all manner of practices, such as issuing “live birth” certificates to persons.

Maybe Sgt. Crowley could persuade them to show the proper I.D.?

SF@3:07
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Yeah right! Like we are going to believe those credentials!

You argue every left wing viewpoint, come from the leftist of the left coast, attack conservatives, argue like a brain dead liberal and then try to tell us that you are a conservative Republican!!

ROTFLOLOLOLOL

It is time for a peaceful revolt that rocks this country to it’s foundation.

It is simple…

Park your farm equipment in the middle of the highway; ground dicers, tractors, combiners, hay bailers… unhitch them sideways in the middle of the highway.

If you are a truck driver… unhitch your trailer sideways in the middle of the highway. Open the back doors to it so the contents can be taken out to feed those who are stuck by the millions on our National highway system.

Cattlemen, Dairymen, and sheep herders… let your fences down. Allow your gifts to walk free and write them off on your taxes for the next 5 years as a loss.

Those of you who have a cheapo $300 to $500 car… park it in the middle of the highway or in the middle of your town’s Main Street. Slice the valve stems on it… and let it sit flattened in the middle of the street with the doors locked and the windows rolled up. Claim it was stolen by a thug.

What will be the result?

Some will state this will cause mahem and outrage. Some will claim it will cause riots and death across this nation. Some will state it is irresponsible, and how dare you contemplate such an occurence?

Hogwash! “Personal Accountability” are two words the LIBtards refuse to add to their vocabulary while they scream at you to make you feel guilt for their plight… “You owe us!”

We need to put the inner cities into soup kitchens. We need to make this “Professionally Bought Off” Government to step down… and this is the only way to do it.

I agree that Obama is a citizen. But he’s not a natural-born, meaning “born on American soil”, citizen … and that’s what the Constitution requires of a President. But, hey, maybe an Administration that supports government takeovers of private industry, ATF threats against gun rights, punishing capitalism, and silencing speech at the point of the “hate crimes” sword doesn’t really care about such a minor point in our Founding document. Of course, I would gladly support siphoning 15 of the 800 billion stimulus dollars to pay for a copy of the actual birth certificate and put this whole thing to rest. And, apparently, Obama would prefer to spend over 1 million fundraised dollars to keep it flourishing.

Didnt Oboma write about finding his Birth cert in one of his books?
I could swear that he found the orig. in a book of his mothers after her death and wrote about it in One of his books. So it wouldnt matter if Hawaii destroyed all paper birth certs – and even if they did they would have made copies on microfilm. They do that at banks and counties all over the country to shrink the amount of actual paperwork they need to keep. There should also always be a backup if something were to happen to computer systems and so on….

Obama is not a ‘natural born’ citizen.(see Article 2 of US Constitution) Doesn’t matter if he were born in Kenya or Hawaii, only one parent was a US Citizen. There is a difference in naturalized citizen, US citizen and natural born. His father was not a US citizen which disqualifies him. The founding fathers and framers of the U.S. Constitution, as did almost all nations, used the writings of Vattel’s “Law of Nations” as a guide in adopting and writing their laws.’Natural born’ is used only one time in the U.S. Constitution for the purpose of presidential eligibility, and was defined as “those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” That is parents, plural, as in two or both.

Do they still have the stone tablets?

Why won’t Obama release his academic records?

What’s he hiding?

If it’s merely bad grades, release the information and allow his highly-inflated ego to be evaluated properly by the public.

But IF his academic records include the fact that he was receiving AID AS A FOREIGN STUDENT, then that’d be the most emergent fact that Obama does not want made public and it obviously would evidenec the man as an illegal alien or else certainly NOT “natural-born” as a U.S. citizen.

Obama became a citizen of Indonesia when adopted there. When he later returned to the U.S. (to Hawaii, mother dumped him on the grandparents and took off again), he never appears to have resolved that citizenship question. He didn’t undergo naturalization in the U.S. (which would disqualify him for the Presidency if he had, however), and if he didn’t, then he’s likely an illegal alien who simply returned to Hawaii years later and assumed he was “passing” as a citizen, that no one would look into his situation with any specificity.

But Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship. Once a citizen (and resident) there, adopted there by an Indonesian as Obama was, then he would no longer be a U.S. citizen, to my knowledge…

THINK ABOUT THIS AS TO THE RELIABILITY OF Obama and Gibbs:

Obama maintained in much of his Presidential campaign (as he had in years earlier) that he had held no dual citizenship and that his only citizenship was one of the U.S.

THAT WAS PROVEN TO BE A LIE by Obama, when his British citizenship was discovered, later the Indonesian citizenship.

THEN Obama caved and admitted that, yes, he’d been a British citizen, as bestowed on him by his father. But that he wasn’t one any longer, with no other explanation as to why he’d been lying about this for most of his life, if not all of it.

WHY LIE ABOUT IT? Obama’s never explained his motive in lying…

Here it is yet again:

An A f r i can news site, Modern Ghana, and an MSNBC broadcaster have delivered new references to President Obama’s birthplace as being outside of the United States, even as a controversy has developed over a letter purporting to be from the president claiming Kapi’olani hospital in Honolulu as his birth location.

Network correspondent Mara Schiavocampo was reporting on the celebratory atmosphere in Accra, Ghana, immediately prior to Obama’s visit to the west A f r i c an nation today.

Interviewing a person who appeared to be a shop operator, she suggested, “Barack Obama is Kenyan … but Ghanaians are still proud of him.”

Meanwhile, a report at Modern Ghana also posted in advance of the president’s visit cited his birthplace on the continent of A f r i ca.

“For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in A f r i c an history as it hosts the first-ever A f r i c an-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth,” the report said.

Documents hidden by Bama:

1. Occidental College records — Not released
2. Columbia College records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — “Not available”
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois S tate Senate schedule — Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records — Not available
9. Law practice client list — Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
12. Record of your baptism — Not available

From William: “Harpo, According the the State Department website, a child born to a non-citizen parent and a citizen parent who had been in the United States for at least 10 years with at least 5 of them being after the age of 14 would be eligible for citizenship at birth.” ”

How many times must I explain it before it sinks into your thick skull? Citizenship is NOT the same as a “natural born” citizen !!!

No wonder we can’t get this issue resolved. Many people don’t even understand the issue !!!!

I’m not necessarily arguing for or against anything. To be honest, if he’s removed from office because of his citizenship (or for any other reason), I’ll be very happy. Like I said, I’m not a supporter of Obama and I’m ready for his term to end. I don’t know how old his mother was, but if she really were 18 when she gave birth, then you’re right. He wouldn’t be eligible if he was born abroad.

Gibbs just gave new ammo to the birthers by lying about having the birth certificate put online. The certificate of live birth is not the original birth certificate and can be easily obtained without actual proof of U.S. birth.

@PTBarnum

Leftist of the left coasts!?! WTF are you talking about? I live in the South. Born and bred below the Mason-Dixon, y’all.

And whether you believe me or not, I have no reason to lie. You also avoided the most important point in that post. So I’ll make it clear to you … EVERY SECOND SPENT ON THIS BIRTHER CRAP IS ANOTHER SECOND WASTED IN THE FIGHT AGAINST OBAMA’S POLICIES!!!

So waste your time on this idiotic conspiracy theory. But those of us with an ounce of intelligence are going to be working against cap & trade, raising taxes and his healthcare proposal.

It’s true. Obama is foreign, socialist, and a douche. This stickers say so:

antiobamasticker.com

SF wrote: “You people have no clue, which is obvious. I’m a lifetime member of the NRA. I attended the REPUBLICAN Convention. I voted for John McCain. But this birther crap is looney bin material. Every second you waste on this ridiculous conspiracy theory is one where you’ve taken your eyes off the important issues facing our nation. Real issues, not the rantings of the crackpots in the GOP.”

You sir, are a buffoon. Can’t you multi-task? I can keep my eyes on ALL the balls.

As other comments have made mention of here, a birth announcement in a local paper is not PROOF of a natural-born birth.

It’s just a reflection of a social request. A SOCIAL REQUEST. Obama’s grandmother called the paper, said she’d had a new grandson, told them what details to print, etc., or mailed that in.

ANYONE can purchase an announcement in any newspaper they want. Call them up, dictate what the classified ad is to state, pay the fee, presto, it’s in the paper.

Does not PROVE there’s anything accurate other than someone dictated the information and it was typed up accurately with the request.

Obama very well could have been born anywhere (else) and arrived in Hawaii (or not) and grandma purchased or requested that announcement. Same with the “Cert of Birth” Obama’s trying to pass off as legitimate. It ONLY PROVES that someone made a request for a document,announcement and that it was done according to the request.

Hawaii was a known document mill, also, in the decades in which Obama claims to have been born there: anyone from anywhere could and did request Certs of Birth and make various announcements inorder to feign citizenship and “prove” residency. And Hawaii was also a known comfortable destination for communists, which Obama’s grandparents and mother were, a “safe haven” for communists in the U.S. and from elsewhere where they could settle in and not be questioned.

I believe there is ample reason to conclude that Obama’s stories are not legitimate nor are they honorable. If he DOES NOT have so much to hide, why all the hiding?

Gibbs says it himself… The president is a Citizen which can end up true. HOWEVER, he doesn’t say that he’s a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, which is what is required by the US Constitution.

Article II – Section I
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Natural Born Citizen: Both parents are U.S. Citizens and born in the U.S.

You can’t deny those facts. Obama admitted that he was British at birth. Even though he was born in Hawaii, that doesn’t make him eligible to be POTUS.

Check this: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/two-minute-warning-vattel-decoded/

People need to be educated on that issue, not on the birth certificate.

Ok I will give it to Gibbs that for once he does believe the drivel that he is pushing. FACS (Facial Action Coding System) show that he is telling the truth at least in his mind for once but everyone has the ability to watch the president and recognize that even thought he works on telling these lies and has coaches on how not to show things on his face he can’t stay in character 100% of the time and especially lately he is showing guilt, anger, shame, and his typical lies. Anyway, back to Gibbs and him believing what he just said, he is a drone like many others and I along with a growing population of non-liberal drones believe the president isn’t a citizen. The best thing we can do about it is not believe anything that comes from the White House or this administration and vote against everything they try to “push” on us and make sure to vote out the rift raft in 2010 and take back the House and make sure to get a filibusterer Senate and in 2012 put the country back into the majority hands of conservatives who saved us in the past during the Carter recession that Reagan had to overcome and will do so for the future. Conservatism isn’t for everyone especially people liberal on social issues but it’s the only way to save this great nation and to keep it in place as the worlds superpower that shows the compassion and heart of man.

William, you said, “I don’t know how old his mother was, but if she really were 18 when she gave birth, then you’re right. He wouldn’t be eligible if he was born abroad.”

I would then suggest that you inform yourself of how old his mother was when he was born, if you don’t know what you were talking about. I told you the truth but I would encourage you to verify it for yourself.

@ Harpo: yes, and since Obama WAS declared a Muslim in his youth, he IS or certainly WAS a Muslim for some portion of his life. While in Indonesia, he was declared to be and educated as a Muslim…

The only “church” he later associated with was a Black Liberation Theology one. Led by another (so-called, former) Muslim, Rev. Wright.

Wright’s just changed his labels as Obama has but it’s what is in their minds that’s the issue…and it appears to me that they sure are more comfortable with Islam than with anything else.

@ Fresh Water

No, you can’t call up the local rag and put in a birth announcement. The lists come directly from the hospital. Obama’s birth wasn’t listed in the paid classified ads. It was listed among all the other free birth announcements from that hospital.

Perhaps we should all start referring to Gibbs as “Mr. Snot In His Nose”. I mean, he’s demeaning millions of Americans with this “birthers” crud, why not just call Gibbs who and what he is?

Gibbs, “Idiotser” or Mr. Snot In His Nose.

At this rate, I think the entire Obama crew (White House or not) are Idiotsers.

“Liars” works well, too.

“philly Gibbs is a liar. He says he put the “Birth Certificate on the internet”. He did not. The document on the internet, the Certificate of Live Birth, can be obtained by Hawaii residents who gave birth abroad.

SHOW THE ORIGINAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps they are afraid of exposing that Obama is a liar and a criminal who has no right to be President.”

No one can get their actual birth certificate. You can only get a copy. The hospital keeps the original. Also, The cer
The cert. of Live birth states where the person is born, which island. It lists Oahu. goto factcheck.org for more

Under British law Barack Hussein Obama I and II, are British subjects aka citizens, Barack’s paternal father traveled and maintained until his death a British (Kenyan) passport as would his family travel under and with him. This makes Barack, a foreign national and could never be a U.S. President under our laws. For comparison compare Arnold Schwarzenegger’s plight. Same.

But if Obama can get away with violating the constitution then why can’t the Repubs run Schwarzenegger for prez in 2012.

I say: Schwarzenegger for prez 2012

FRESHWATER,

Check your facts….I do believe that the newspaper has stated that at the time they did not get birth announcements from the hospital. I may be wrong but that is what I remember them saying just recently.

What is the “advantage” of having all this rumor and questioning going on, while trying to pass various bills, etc.? Surely this will work against Mr. O. in the long run? Why not just release the document (THE REAL ONE), so we all can “move on”? It seems like the more they try to sweep this thing under the rug, the more attention it is getting and likely will continue to get. Because people’s curiosity and worry-muscles are “piqued.”

If they would just release the REAL document, maybe everyone would calm down and get back on track?

@ explain the newspaper clippings:

And yet no witness from any hospital has ever been identified. Anyone can contact any newspaper and send them alleged announcements, doesn’t mean it’s proof of any kind other than someone’s done it.

That “hospital” is even disputed that there was any birth there of a Barack Obama, by the way, can’t locate any information on such, no witnesses, don’t know about it, etc.

For self interest, I contacted the hospital where I was born. My original hospital cert. is on file, they have a record of me, parents, my finger and footprints, my minute of birth, the whole thing. And I’m older than Obama.

Sorry!

That last one was for “EXPLAIN THE NEWSAPER CLIPPINGS” @3:24, not FRESHWATER.

Sorry, Freshwater!1

@ PTBarnum — ANYONE can submit announcements to a local paper and obviously did. The grandparents were cunning (and communist) people, they seem to have gone to a great deal of trouble to accommodate being comfortable and covert as possible as communists.

Obama wrote to the hospital that he alleges was the place of is birth, and which, allegedly, was involved in creating that “birth announcement” of his in the local paper, and they don’t have any record of him being born there.

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“No, you can’t call up the local rag and put in a birth announcement. The lists come directly from the hospital. Obama’s birth wasn’t listed in the paid classified ads. It was listed among all the other free birth announcements from that hospital.”

OK, let’s say for the sake of argument that Obama is a natural born citizen. Why can’t we see his birth certificate? Why can’t we see his college documents? Why can’t we see his medical records? These items and more have been presented by past Presidents. Heck, Bush released his National Guard records. We as Americans deserve full disclosure by our elected officials. We deserve transparency. We were promised change !!

FRESHWATER, you are absolutely right! Obama has CHANGED the story of which hospital he was born in!

This administration stinks to high heaven! Probably has even beat the Clinton administration on the SMELL TEST!

Obama’s mother was not a U.S. Citizen at the time birth, where ever it was, she got knocked by a black man in Kenyan at 17. Her own parents left her there in Kenya, she (Barack’s) mother was and became a Kenyan-British citizen by marring Barack Hessian Obama I; and traveled on his foreign passport, disprove that.

Isn’t 9/11 a better conspiracy than this one?

Another thing: JUST BECAUSE someone identifies as “being from XYZ hospital” does not PROVE their information is credible.

It works both ways, I realize, but generally there are many low to moderate income workers in institutions who literally don’t question anything and “just fill out and file forms”.

The paper announcement and the hospital involved don’t have the same information and that’s what’s key. There was more than likely an employee or employees throughout Hawaii making the state the document mill it was for decades…same thing goes on in California today, for illegal aliens and other criminal element, for themselves.

They get “helpful” “associates” work in key areas (DMV, in CA, there are many of these), state agencies, institutions, even prisons, and then branch out from there. This is WHY Hawaii was known as “a document mill” state or area for decades, because it literally churned out false or forged information on behalf of people from other nations inorder to get them false U.S. citizenship or residency.

MILLIONS of people were infiltrated into the U.S. by way of Hawaii for decades using this process.

@ Thomas Pain: I have yet to ever encounter anyone with questions about Obama’s legitimacy to the Presidency who was involved in the “9/11 Conspiracy” stuff.

Those are Leftwingers — most of them Ron Paul and Al Gore associated — by the way, who think the U.S. somehow attacked ourselves on 9/11.

To: Explain the newspaper clippings

My daughter was born overseas, where my military husband and I were stationed at the time. However, her birth was announced in our U.S. hometown paper. My parents submitted the announcement to the paper, with no required proof of documentation. It was just to let our friends, family and acquaintances know of the happy event. Obama’s grandparents could easily have done the same.

@ SF: well, Bill Gates is funding La Raza, so what does that say about HIM?

The only person I see who is a fool here is Obama for spending quite so many millions of dollars maintaining his stories. The truth would’ve been so much easier, certainly would have used far less of other people’s money to explain.

Even IF Obama was born in Hawaii, his mother did not qualify under the Constitution to immediately bestow “natural born” citizenhip on Obama, as also affected negatively by the fact that the alleged father was not a U.S. citizen, either.

These are not complex things. Nor unreasonable questions. The only unreasonable responses I’ve witnessed in this regard is people taunting the questions and those who pose them.

I had to provide my ORIGINAL birth certificate AND all transcripts in order to get my security clearance as have ALL federal security clearance positions….they brought up in the senate John McCain’s natural born status (as his Dad was in the military)…WHY NOT bring up obamas if he’s in question by so many AND spends over $900,000.00 defending the lawsuits….IF he was born in Kenya, which previous history has shown…his mother did NOT have the years of age to qualify for his US Citizenship; and then there is the adoption later….some transpareny and open government (he also has REFUSED to release his passport, and medical records) WHY the big secrecy…SOMEONE NEEDS TO STAND ON THE SENATE FLOOR AND DEMAND THAT HE RELEASE HIS “PROOF”!!! Go to for obama timeline: http://colony14.net/id41.html

On a totally undisputed document, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim: fact Jack, disprove it, throw the bum out, now.

AND ABOUT GIBBS, the guy was John Kerry’s campaign press guy, what’s that say about Gibbs’ character?

“Truth” to self-described Progressives, such as Gibbs (and the despicable liar, John Kerry) is: “whatever you can say and do to ruin anyone who challenges you”.

Gibbs has a rotten political history, and I think he’s proven himself to be a shyster for lies and fakery. Gibbs, the Snake Oil Salesman, for the Snake Oil Manufacturers, Kerry and Obama.

Obama is creating a HUGE trust issue by not showing his complete birth certficate for all to see. I believe and so do many others that he WAS born in Hawaii. If there was proof that he was born outside of the United States — Hillary and McCain definately would have revealed that during the campaign.

However, Obama can not deny that the controversy surrounding his birth-certficate is real. Many valid points are being brought up by those who believe that he as not been completely forth coming, or in his own words “transparent” and “accountable” with his personal records.

It is concerning to many that he sets a different standard for himself than the rest of us. The solution is simple and yet for some reason he has spend large sums of money, time and energy that could be better spent else where to avoid simply producing the document that hundreds of thousands of American Citzens are asking to see.

When the issue comes up the White House treats it like a big joke, and belittles those who are simply want to uphold the standards of the constitution. This is demeaning to him and to the Office of the Presidency.

Who’s job is it to certify that someone is eligible to run for President of the United States? Can that person or committee member please stand up and verify that he went through the process was certified to run for our highest office? Were they not doing their job?

Obama needs to restore the credibility that many people are losing in him. If we can’t trust him on the little things, how can we trust him on the big things? I just wish he would take the high road and do the right thing. How hard can that be?

I agree with the White House. We need to put this to rest so we can move on – however, the ball is in their court.

Hey dopey, we don’t want to see the one you are showing. We want to see the live certificate of birth. Any fool can get the one you are passing off as the real deal. You don’t have to be born in Hawaii to get that one stupid.

Fictional Nonsense’? okay then explain the inconsistencies

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104718

“My daughter was born overseas, where my military husband and I were stationed at the time. However, her birth was announced in our U.S. hometown paper. **==>> My parents submitted the announcement to the paper, with no required proof of documentation.<<==** It was just to let our friends, family and acquaintances know of the happy event. Obama’s grandparents could easily have done the same.”

(Emphasis added.)

EXACTLY.

Everyone trying to claim that somehow, just because an announcement of birth was found printed in a local Hawaiian paper about Obama’s birth, that that somehow proves anything, is batting minus 1000.

It only proves that an announcement was printed in a paper. I also haven’t ever heard anyone claim to have generated the announcement, hospital or not.

“Oh, high, I’m calling from the Prince Hospital in (Town) (Hawaii). I’m going to be sending you a birth announcement that I’d like you to print in Sunday’s edition. What? You mean I can just read it to you over the phone? O.K., then, here’s the copy:…….”

Or, grab a few envelopes, letterheads from the job at the hospital, go type whatever up on a few and mail them in…sure looks like “it came from the hospital.”

@HTFU
“How many times must I explain it before it sinks into your thick skull? Citizenship is NOT the same as a “natural born” citizen !!!”

The constitution reads:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Everybody always forgets that “or a Citizen of the United States” part…

It would appear that one could just be a “Citizen” and still be president without even being born here.

Realize too (but don’t worry about) that John McCain was born in Panama…

Anyone with a brain understands that Obama was not born in the US. If he was he would produce his original birth cert. An announcement in a newspaper means nothing. Why would he spend millions on lawyers to keep his berth cert secret. Come on people, wake up. Gibbs has already told a bunch of likes. He smells like a dead fish.

Too many people ridicule these important (and reasonable) questions based upon, so they jest spitefully, that Barack as an infant set out to create some huge intrigue, etc., that “Kenya” was behind this, yaddayaddayadda….

Losing site entirely of who the grandparents and mother AND OTHERS INVOLVED WITH them were and what their motives and operations were about.

Look into the beliefs and associations of the grandparents, the mother (their child), what their objectives were, etc. and you’ll find a great deal of issues there that incentivize their ongoing covert behaviors about identities, finances, residencies, associations.

Barack’s grandfather actually made a point of rounding up the likes of the perverse, communist atheist drug abuser, Frank Marshall Davis, and LEAVING HIS GRANDSON with him for “mentoring” — what adult would EVER do such a thing with a child (as Obama was at that time)? A perverse, corrupt adult, that’s who.

Davis is lauded among Marxist, Communist and Black Theology people (many of them in Chicago, Illinois) as some sort of big thinker and ideologue. I guess his sexual perversions and mental aberrations don’t bother them…

Too many people ridicule these important (and reasonable) questions based upon, so they jest spitefully, that Barack as an infant set out to create some huge intrigue, etc., that “Kenya” was behind this, yaddayaddayadda….

Losing site entirely of who the grandparents and mother AND OTHERS INVOLVED WITH them were and what their motives and operations were about.

Look into the beliefs and associations of the grandparents, the mother (their child), what their objectives were, etc. and you’ll find a great deal of issues there that incentivize their ongoing covert behaviors about identities, finances, residencies, associations.

Barack’s grandfather actually made a point of rounding up the likes of the perverse, communist atheist substance abuser, Frank Marshall Davis, and LEAVING HIS GRANDSON with him for “mentoring” — what adult would EVER do such a thing with a child (as Obama was at that time)? A perverse, corrupt adult, that’s who.

Davis is lauded among Marxist, Communist and Black Theology people (many of them in Chicago, Illinois) as some sort of big thinker and ideologue. I guess his perversions and mental aberrations don’t bother them…

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