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Wow was this the same guy who made a movie about assassinating GW while he was in office ???
Tea Party fellow travellers, the whole rotten lot of them.
weapons of mass destruction?? Really?? Why am I feeling that these raids are much to do about nothing? Unfortunately, we all need to wait several months before any facts surface on this case. I highly doubt that this small militia had “weapons of mass destruction” if Sadam didn’t have WMDs, unless they are holding American citizens at a different standard.
Whatever you say, tubby butt.
Liberal terrorists are given jobs at public schools. Go figure.
Liberal terrorists are used as baby sitters by future liberal presidents. Go figure.
I am curious if they have actual evidence or nothing more some militia people talkin trash about the police.
THIS IS A SHOT OVER THE BOW BY THE FEDERAL GOVT. TO WARN SOME CITIZENS; AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE PASSING OF OBAMACARE AND THE RHETORIC THAT ACCOMPANIED IT. IT IS HARD TO KNOW IF IT WAS A WARRANTED WARNING OR NOT. NOTE I’M NOT WONDERING IF THESE CULTISTS ARE GUILTY OR NOT. I’M WONDERING IF THE WARNING IS WARRANTED OR NOT.
TIME WILL TELL. IT ALWAYS DOES.
Meanwhile we have hundreds of thousands of unsavory illegals freely roaming the country.
Do you think the FBI and team Obama actually have people watching the illegals?
Piling on racist to your repertoire, kmichaels?
The unsavory are the greedy WHITE businessmen who hire the illegals. No hire, no illegals. Really basic stuff.
Really, 100,000’s of ‘unsavory’ illegals? And you claim to be Christian? hahahaha…..
How many cops have been killed by blacks so far?
Compared to this group, that at most, so far, have only talked?
twilightzone March 29th, 2010 – 3:02 pm
Piling on racist to your repertoire, kmichaels?
The unsavory are the greedy WHITE businessmen who hire the illegals. No hire, no illegals. Really basic stuff.
Really, 100,000’s of ‘unsavory’ illegals? And you claim to be Christian? hahahaha…..
If I were racist, dipwad zoneout, I would have mentioned millions, since we have millions of illegals. However,
I was referring only to the unsavory illegals. Now if you are too damn stupid to understand the difference, TUFF.
For example, the unsavory illegals that just killed the farmer in Arizona. Now, dumbass, which part do you need
explaining again?
Let’s see if they get off as easy as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, whose weather underground actually I believe did kill a police officer.
Park Place Police Station bombing, February 1970
Main article: San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing
On February 16, 1970 a nail bomb placed on a window ledge of the Park Police substation in the Upper Haight neighborhood of San Francisco exploded at 10:45 p.m. The blast killed police Sergeant Brian McDonnell. Law enforcement suspected the Weather Underground but was unable to prove conclusively that the organization was involved.[53] A second officer, Robert Fogarty was partially blinded by the bomb’s shrapnel
Remember children, all white male christians are terrorists. All of them.
Lame, so they wanted to kill a cop. I guess they’re going to have to arrest half of the black male US population now.
They are not patriots , the cops stand between us and chaos. It’s all we have. Targeting cops is a criminal action and should be prosecuted.
Of course other terrorist groups will be ignored , this particular group are Caucasian “Christian ” and therefore always the enemy. If federal action is taken against Moslem activists in this nation , then I shall believe the FEDs give a hoot about the rest of us.
The difference, meh, is that blacks and illegal latinos don’t just talk about killing cops, they actually do it.
Obviously talk is much more serious than action. For example, Bill Ayers, liberal talker and practiced terrorist
obviously should be teaching in today’s liberal schools. He is the real thing.
Yes, liberals are mentally diseased.
I say innocent until PROVEN guilty.
I’m sorry if that is bucking the (MSM) trend, but it’s the law.
- They cannot be forced to testify against themselves.
- They cannot be convicted on the conspiracy charge just because they are obviously paranoid about government oppression.
- They cannot be convicted just because they enjoy, have, and use guns.
- They cannot be convicted because they advocate military-style training and preparedness in case of a perceived threat of anarchy at some point in the future.
- They cannot be convicted for having a special flag or club.
- They cannot be convicted contrary to the Constitutional rights of Freedom Of Speech, Freedom of Religion AND Freedom of Association.
(Look ‘em up. They’re in there).
– They cannot be convicted IF they had ANY plans to confront uniformed police officers IN THE CONTEXT of those officers acting outside the law, under illegal orders, or in a unilaterally derelict manner.
HOWEVER, if it is, in fact, true and proven beyond a doubt that this group was planning an imminent attack on law-abiding, lawfully employed,
and lawfully empowered peace officers, AND they were actually in the stages of planning and preparation to do exactly that, THEN by all means, let the allegations stand and let them be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
BUT remember, there are FAR FAR FAR MORE left-wing extremists such as gangs and drug lords, especially and including flat-out Mulim terrorists who are ALREADY ENGAGED IN DIRECT WARFARE against all law enforcement agencies AND our civilian population, to boot! So let’s keep our eyes on the ball and keep keeping it REAL.
Didn’t OBAMA SUPPORTER BILL AYERS actually kill a cop. Is it a crime to think in America. Something doesn’t smell right.
Is it true these men where arrested without any resistance? Good thing the Feds came in with a small army, armed to the teeth, to detain this group of extremists. Puleeze.
just asking- Why are you people defending them? I understand innocent before guilty but is that the only reason why your defending them? Just asking..
Hmm, I’m a little conflicted here. While the police should act on a tip of something imminent, imagine what a battered wife with a personal protection order must have thought watching all this unfold. She gets told by the same cops that the “verbal threats” he makes cannot be acted on until he actually does something, many times ending up in a badly injured or dead woman. In the case of a verbal threat against officers which had yet to be acted out, all hell was unleashed on the threat makers, hmmmm, just saying. Also, in the very same state of Michigan, a woman was beaten and raped by a thug, a week later he returned, raped and beat her to death the second time. In a recorded phone conversation, the assistant DA told the victim’s daughter that since he had been since convicted of two other murders in the time being that “we need to think of the taxpayers going to another trial for someone already in jail”, as if he’ll never get out in liberal Michiganistan. I wonder how much taxpayer money was spent on the raids last night to get 9 people who made verbal threats.
pulz March 29th, 2010 – 4:14 pm
just asking- Why are you people defending them? I understand innocent before guilty but is that the only reason why your defending them? Just asking..
I don’t see anyone defending them. Most people like me are just noticing some interesting hypocrisies and inconsistencies here.
I’m not defending them, if the charges are true and thus a real, imminent threat, they should be put away for a long, long time. Right now the circumstances just seem fishy. Not to mention that the accused are described as an extreme Christian (“rightwing”) militia who were plotting to kill law officers and then attack the funeral procession, must seem like a trifle dessert for the MSM. The MSM really should be thinking “if it’s too good to be true…”
I am looking forward to seeing the evidence against these men. So far, we see the exercise of religion, and the exercise of their right to own, carry and train themselves in the use of military weapons – both of which are basic civil rights. And we also hear the yet unproven claim that they intended to START a war with the Feds by conspiring to shoot law enforcement officers. That seems very highly suspicious and counterintuitive to me, on the order of a Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Olofson kind of suspicion. I am intrigued…
black male here…and from what i’m reading i rather shoot most of you then a cop…but then i again i think guns are for people who are scared of real confrontation…i rather get up close and personal so when i’m standing over you you know who whooped that …..
@ Mr.T March 29th, 2010 – 5:02 pm
“black male here…and from what i’m reading i rather shoot most of you then a cop…but then i again i think guns are for people who are scared of real confrontation…i rather get up close and personal so when i’m standing over you you know who whooped that …..”
White male here. I have no desire to shoot you, a cop, or anyone else. It’s definitely a last resort proposition in my world. I totally disagree that guns are only for people who are scared of real confrontation. I carry a concealed handgun at all times and places in which the law does not preclude me from doing so. I do so because there are instances where a firearm is the only way to survive an attack, or to defend innocent life. The police cannot be everywhere, and they are not legally responsible for your individual safety. So, if you are inclined to defend yourself, your loved ones, the innocent, and the rights that we are all guaranteed under our Constitution, then I would encourage you to consider learnign the facts about firearms. You just might change your opinion of firearms and the people who carry them. Learn to shoot safely. Learn when to shoot and when not to shoot. Join me in exercising and preserving our right to own and carry firearms. In the right hands, they save lives.
Also, you bring up a good point. I think something was lost from our society when men could no longer defend their honor and settle their differences with their fists, or in a duel, without severe consequences from Big Brother. I am not convinced that it was totally a change for the better. I am not at all convinced that ours is a more polite and respectful society than it was in the days of the so-called Wild West. The posts in this very forum can attest to that.
Respectfully submitted.
NOQTR4TR8RS March 29th, 2010 – 5:49 pm: Beautifully said. Thank you.
@Mr T. You should go to your local target range, you might be surprised how many law abiding minority men and women are packing heat. I just reread the post here and I’m not sure why you would want to shoot anyone posting here, unless it’s because they disagree with your politics and maybe our president, and if you think that’s a legitimate reason to shoot someone, you are one scary individual. Word of caution, the only thing we know for sure about these guys, is they made threats on the internet.
Christian? more a cult. And that music . You got to be kidding (laughing)
I bet Russia would like to pay for the services of these men seeing that two muslim’s blew themselves up in the subway today. They could hire them to go after all muslim scum who wish to kill innocent people who happen to make the mistake of go to their job instead of calling in sick
Is it true that the right has small penis syndrome? Maybe thats why they have all those guns
well I am a scary individual but only when provoked…and i wouldn’t be surprised at how many law abiding minorities own guns because i have a family full of them…only reason i haven’t owned a gun is because i know myself and my temperament and I would’ve used it by now so i chose to be responsible because its easy to take a life but hard to live with the consequences…..but with all the teaparty rhetoric i’m going to finally purchase a taurus and a cheap ak-47 because enough is enough…people keep asking for stuff they eventually get it…and i’m not making threats i’m making promises…and there is a difference between politics and hate and breitbart is always full of hate….so like the militias always stress there is nothing wrong with being prepared…but i still prefer and old school dance to anything else
@ MrT March 29th, 2010 – 7:17 pm
“…breitbart is always full of hate…”
The ENTIRE WORLD is full of hate, my friend. If you intend to change that by keeping “promises” with your Taurus and your AK, then you’re going to be very disappointed with the results. Anger and hatred like you appear to carry can harm or kill others, but it will most assuredly destroy YOU, from the inside. And vengeance cannot quench the thirst for justice.
The best weapon to combat hate in this forum is facts. Because facts defeat lies and ignorance. And hate is the offspring of lies and ignorance.
Respectfully submitted.
The thought police at work! Waco and Ruby Ridge come to mind?
I say throw the book at these freaks – BUT – take a look at the radicalism that is spouted from Mosques and the Muslim training sites that are all over the country right now. There are Muslims training in the hills of Penn and Virginia as we speak.
Fair is fair.
http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m5d4-Alert–Muslim-terrorist-training-camps-in-the-US
Question: (not being military myself) For you who are trained in military ways-are you as impressed with what you see on this video as the reporters were? Also, it’s interesting that another militia organization didn’t want anything to do with them. What do you think. Don’t answer if you don’t have military training.
If they were indeed going to target the police or anyone else with violence, then they deserve what they get.
With that being said, this whole story seems a little fishy. Is this the start of a new assault on the 2nd amendment or an attempt to discredit people on the right as being crazy? I could easily see this as being fabricated. I’m not saying for sure that it is, but I wouldn’t put it past our federal government to make something like this up to scare the public.
Chris
Decaying Society
Wonder how many Timothy McVeigh type of domestic terrorists are being spawned by all the racist, hate-filled, violent rhetoric of the republicans and teabaggers. The FBI and Homeland Security better crack down real hard on the right wing anti-government types before things get out of hand.
I hope they are monitoring this site along with Stormfront and taking names.
hey BIG SIS…..I call BS.
Yea right, Christian militias are the most important terrorist threat we face in America? I guess they’ll be raiding a Franciscan Nunnery next. You know those Catholic Nuns can be pretty tuff when it comes to the anti-christ. When I was in school Sister Zeta used her own weapon of mass destruction on my knuckles – it was called a ruler.
This is just another example of the Obama administration going after the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Never mind that I’ve yet to hear what crime they’ve actually committed. The liberal media will come up with more and more “plots”., but what did they actually do. last time I looked at the constitution, thought is not a crime.
Walk into any mosque in dozens of cities around the country and you’ll hear more plotting than these guys could have ever pulled off. I guess 9-11 wa actually a Christian plot to make the Muslims look bad. It’s like stopping mu grandmother at the airport while two young Arabic men stroll past. Not to mention the dozens of armed Muslim militia training camps set up all over the country that are allowed to openly operate and threaten their neighbors and our country.
Where is the FBI for these actual terrorists?
So get ready, it’s death of our freedoms by politically correct doses of tyranny. They’re coming after the Tea Partier’s for “hate speech” next, like Ann Coulter in Canada. They’re already somehow linking these guys to that movement. Did I mention that pigs can fly?
You’ll know when its too late when they come after the 2nd amendment. Once they have the guns – good bye America.
Only the Obama Administration could come up with such a lame plot. The timing is also suspicious. This is BS or these guys are Democrats! When these guys are aquitted the press will not even mention it.
If these arrests occurred during some Republican administration….I’d say ok, but under this DOJ, I think it’s a “warning shot” to any who dare challange this president.
This looks very, very bad for freedom.
I am not part of a militia… just an average American.
But Ill say this – Obama scares me more than any militia.
I just seen on Fox News that (Judge Napalatono) was talking about a secret army of 6000 that is revealed in the health care bill – what does an army have to do with health care – or taking over student loans, or mandating coverage against the US Constitution – or death panels… Is that what the 6000 man army is for?
So if Americans have an army it is “wrong” but if Obama has an army it is “right”? Im not seein it.
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Black gangs in Detroit [Harare, Zimbabwe] kill pooooooooolice officers every day, and Obama’s MSM yawns. A few whites “plot” and CNN is running this tory round the clock. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? REV Wright