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Yet, we don't care what you think. Really.
When i think Tea Party, i think breath of fresh air, regular TAX PAYERS,simple kitchen table budgets,stop with the race stuff,how many race cards are there in this deck???
All 57 cards…. Must be Obama's deck.
Well NAACP aholke-we KNOW what your ideology is, Its been proven by the likes of Hitler,Stalin,Mao, Pol Pot,Chavez,Castro,Che Gueverra and evry other commie puke in history. You cant fool us anymore ,Ballentinepuke. We know who the racist is and it is YOU.
If I told that empty headed joker what I think of him he'd try to have me arrested.
"States' rights" was a rallying cry in defense of slavery, then Jim Crow. Acknowledging that does not mean you hate the Constitution, which establishes the parameters of the federal government's authority, including the federal government's authority over the individual states.
No Mr. Ballentine, your ideology is race. You are the racist.
"To Stupid"….that's true and I'll agree with that, but it's the liberals that are the ones to stupid to hold a conversation, where's the conservative voices on this panel?
Star Parker wrote a great commentary – http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
The problem is economically we're going in the can…there are no jobs, remember?…
and now…the problem is racism???? How'd the NAACP get us from no jobs to race.
Star Parker's commentary is worth the read!
The race card is still being playing, but it is losing its effectiveness. White people are getting really sick and tired of being called racists and many of us have quit listening to the charge. It's a joke.
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The greatest anti-Obama t-shirt ever worn in public (photo): http://bit.ly/dtnIX4
I think you’re lucky your ancestors got shipped to America. You could of still be running around in the jungle.
How desperate have these Leftist democrats got? Poor little Leftist nutjobs. We have cameras everywhere watching you so smile. MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST All the same. Ask the new head of the KKK the NAACP.
I don't think these leftist radicals are communists, i think their ideology is communistic. Hmm, hey wait a minute… that WOULD make them communists
I didn't say that any form of acknowledgment of that would be equivalent of hatred of the Constitution. What I am arguing is that saying that any promotion of states' rights is racist is inherently hating the system of government. Whether it's abused or not, states do have rights under the US political system.
In terms of slavery, the Republicans freed the slaves. In terms of Jim Crow, Republicans worked against that.
Now where were we? Oh, yes, the Tea Party is racist.
Ok! This has gone too far…they are delusional! How can any American who has an I.Q. sign on to the Leftist narrative. It could truly make a fantastic political animation series “I see racist, greedy, phobic, angry, mean-spirited, oppressive, privileged, bigot people…everywhere!” A dose of the truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi-miawfDNU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4bhGEtm4-U
Personally, I don't give a rats ass what anyone who voted for Obama thinks.
Their ability to THINK is very seriously flawed !
The only time CNN mentioned ideology was the word "right-wing". No mention of the left who backed segregation and the KKK. A much needed question would have been…Why does the black community align with and support an ideology that terrorized them and to this day seeks to keep them a dependant class?
This guy needs to go and enjoy real socialism in Venezula. He's a perfect fit for the Chavez regime!
Oh give me a break, you fool…!
Wanting
small government,
self determination,
lower taxes,
freedom to let the marketplace work for individuals…
is an "ideology of racism"?
Shut… Up!
These fools will never give up on the twisting of history. Dr Martin Luther King Jr would be ashamed of them.
http://www.swifteconomics.com/2010/07/08/nullific...
Why are the tea…..uh.. partiers so uptight about being accused of racism, and so quick to leave the impression black power’s gonna get their Momma? Who’s responsible for this? Could it be……..SATAN?!
As I watch CNN, Fox and MSNBC…. they have been talking race…. Good debate…BUT ONE THING….NO ONE BRINGS UP Jesse Jackson NOR Al Sharpton……If they can not play the race card there fund raising and donations would slow down….Those 2 gentlemen would drop that card at a drop of the hat…Just as long as the get paid……
Let the Lefties continue to focus on Racism… After all, they've been One Trick Ponies for decades. We Conservative Tea Party folks have bigger fish to fry… Come November.
a vote for obama was a vote against working for a living!
a welfare check is a ticket to slavery,a placement into a housing project is a bed at the plantation.
That's 59, actually.
"We've been to ….57 states….and 2 more to go."
So practice what you preach and start accepting everyone !
Go back and read what you wrote: "Ah, states' rights are racist. So he hates the Constitution." Then go back and listen again to the video, where he explains that the states' rights argument that concerns him is the argument in support of a Jim Crow regime. As you know, the Jim Crow regime used states' rights arguments to allow certain states to fall below the federal level of civil rights established in the Constitution for certain citizens. As you also know, the modern republican party has very little to do with the republican party of 150+ years ago. The same can be said for the democratic party. I don't know if the tea party is racist the way i know the KKK is racist, but there are very clearly racist elements in the tea party, and I am not sure why the tea party isn't moving more quickly to root them out.
"When we think States' Rights we think Jim Crow"
Funny when I think Jim Crow I think DNC!!
Also I dont remember Dr King marching against States' Rights,
I remember him marching FOR EQUAL RIGHTS!
Mr Ballentine, I dont think youre a lying sack of crap-
I think you statements SHOW youre a lying sack of crap.
can someone tell this guy who Jim Crow was…
The white, In the 1870s, white Democrats gradually returned to power in southern states, sometimes as a result of elections in which paramilitary groups intimidated opponents, attacking blacks or preventing them from voting. Gubernatorial elections were close and disputed in Louisiana for years, with extreme violence unleashed during the campaign. In 1877, a national compromise to gain southern support in the presidential election resulted in the last of the federal troops being withdrawn from the South. White Democrats had regained power in every Southern state Democratic Party Redeemer government that followed the troop withdrawal legislated Jim Crow laws segregating black people from the state’s white population.
because the guy, like most leftist, doesn't even really know what the Tea Party's ideology is….
He just believes, with no questions asked, the msm's the NAACP and the obama administration version of who and what the Tea Party stands for…..
Leftist are not concerned with facts, only their own agenda…
We get it. Everything and everybody that does not treat blacks special, and does not give them something of value for nothing, is racist. We've only been hearing it for 50 years solid, ad nauseum.
I guess lefties are saying "I surrender!" every time they use "RACISM". If they wave the white flag – would they consider it racist? Are white clouds in the sky racist? White notebook paper?
I refuse to acknowledge "racism". There is only one race – the human race! There sure are a lot of bigots, though. This gentleman is obviously one of them.
We have a new battle on our hands – the battle of "Classism". Sorry poor people – you don't own the rich. They refuse to bow to your demands.
What are we teaching our children by denigrating the rich? Are we teaching them not to strive, not to work hard, not to be all they can be? Are we coddling mediocrity? Why put the middle class and the poor on a pedestal?
Free the achievers!
You are too kind.
If we've studied history? That guy is a knucklehead!
See how the Libtards try to turn their Commie ideas
into smoke and replace the talk to Race.
Sorry Libtards, it won't work this time!
I'm tired of everything being about race. There is a guy in TampaBay running for Congress US House seat FL-District 11. He KNOWS about violence and assault, but you don't see him on TV pointing fingers and screaming. He's also a Black, Conservative, Republican, Tea-Party member. http://defeat-kathy-castor.adamsforcongress.org
Eddie Adams Jr was a key-note speaker at early Tea-Parties, before it was popular to be a member and featured in TIME magazine's article about the movement….. but I guess the TeaParties are racists.
How in the world are states rights racist? Is anyone at a Tea Party event advocating Jim Crow laws? No. Is anyone at a Tea Party advocating slavery? No. This guy's logic is wrapped in the thought that everyone is a racist. I do love the touch at the end where he decides to bring God into the argument. Nice try pal but I am not buying the hatred and bigotry you are selling. You know full well that the Tea Party is not racist however since they go against your politics and agenda, you have labeled them. Pathetic.
The "states rights equals racism" argument is a falsehood promoted by those who have bought into the south's rationale for the Civil War. Read Lincoln's "House Divided." The slave states were seeking, through federal legislation and court precedent, to eliminate the distinction between slave and free state. By extending slave-owners' property rights into the free states, they would effectively eliminate "free" states entirely. The north realized what was going on and rejected it by electing Lincoln. The north was the true defender of States Rights, the right of ALL men to live free.
Sure, states' rights may or may not have been the rallying cry of many racists, but that doesn't mean states' rights are not a legitimate issue. It was also upheld as somewhat important by the North during the Civil War in a sense, but in a different manner than the South.
Consider this quote by the speaker in the video: "One [issue] is this Tea Party movement, and I'm saying it in this sense to all the Tea Party movement out there. Black folks don't think you [sic] racist, we think your ideology is racism when you start hollering state [sic] rights."
So he said that the issue of states' rights, no matter the context, will cause you to be thought of as racist by blacks. He goes on to explain how it was used as a pro-slavery, pro-segregation argument. Nevertheless, states do have power under the US form of government, as explained in the Constitution. He seems to want to do away with that, because of the arguments of the past. Why did Martin Luther King Jr. march? According to this man, he said it was "to stop states' rights."
He also said, "So when you start hollering state [sic] rights, we start thinking Jim Crow." Pretty reactionary, no?
We have a problem, however. Now you want to say that the Republicans and Democrats of the modern era are different than the ones of the past. Why then are we still focusing on "states' rights" as a thing of the past in connection with the argument of slavery? States' rights are a legitimate, modern issue and should be considered in that vein, no? Why is this man seeking to drag us to a past era, one which you'd probably like to forget, and bring up an argument no one here is saying? No one in this era is suggesting that we should use states' rights to bring back slavery of blacks — right?
Besides, the Tea Party is more concerned with government spending and the current general fiscal irresponsibility in government than states' rights. His argument is rather stupid. On the subject of the Tea Party, no they are not like the KKK. They haven't burned crosses nor lynched anyone — behavior which was also aimed at white Republicans who wanted to help blacks as fellow Americans.
What racist elements in the Tea Party do you think you see that isn't rooted out? I'd be very much interested in this one.
If the man in question doesn't hate the Constitution and the form of US government, he's just someone who mindlessly reacts to rhetoric and says stupid things. If you'd like, I'd be open to hearing your evidence as to why you think he's stupid rather than devious.
Can you show me one video clip or image of actual racism occuring at a Tea Party event that hasn't been previously proven nonsense? Because ThinkProgress tried that one and didn't have much luck
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/303650.ph...
Warren Ballantine, the guy who told Juan Williams To “go back to the porch” when he didn’t like what he said, THAT is CNN’s idea of who to ask on their program to discuss race? The man obviously thinks skin color IS an ideology.
Hey – you're the racist as only you and your race baiting buddies make up a strategy that calls for race baiting and only you can call people racists. Bill Clinton's eulogy was not racist was it ? Harry Reid's summation of then candidate Barack was not racist. The NAACP's comments about Ms. Rice and Mr. Thomas were not racist was it ? George Bush, after being called out by the NAACP for hating black people came and spoke to the NAACP gathering, didn't he. That showed more class then you have in your dirty vocal cords. And of course its not racist to say I sent him to his own kind and I did not give him all he had coming to him because he was white. I for one, do not believe Ms Sherrod saying she has overcome her racist tendencies. It was Barack Huessen Obama who called a white law enforcement officer stupid. Lastly it was, no matter what spin you fools give us, Barack Huessen Obama who ordered, through his racist Ag Secretery, Ms Sherrod to pull over on the side of the road and text her resignation. We have been witness to his quick decisions as in the police officer in Cambridge. And it was Barack Huessen Obama that ordered the Black Panther case closed without a punishment. That is racism. And you, fool are a race baiter.
I am not sure what's so confusing to you here. This is pretty obvious. When "states' rights" are invoked in the modern context, and particularly by the tea party, it is done almost always without reference to what specific rights should be left to the states (10th Amendment aside). For example, a state's right to make gay marriage legal or illegal would be a state's rights argument. If one just invokes "state's rights", without a context or identification of a particular right, people will think about what is most closely associated with the states' rights argument, which is slavery, Jim Crow and discrimination. We haven't heard from the tea party what states' rights means to the tea party, so one has to conclude that the argument is being made in its most ordinary sense. What legitimate modern states' rights are we talking about here? It's a serious question.
in all events, if the tea party is concerned less with states' rights and more with government spending and fiscal responsibility, where was the tea party when we engaged in two wars and simultaneous massive tax cuts? How fiscally responsible is that? Did you know that the tax rate after WWII was at 90% for some taxpayers, for ten years, to pay for the war? If we are going to fight wars and win, how could we possibly not plan for how to pay for them? Our previous president added 7 trillion to our deficit, reversing a trend of balanced budgets and deficit reduction, and there was no one word from a tea party. So what changed? This how we get to part of the concerns about the tea party and racism. The change, of course, is a black president. The level of anger and mistrust directed at the President is scary. He's called a socialist, a fascist, a communist, as if those things are interchangable. He's likened to Hitler. People insist that he's a secret Muslim, that he's not an American citizen. People appear at tea party parades with vile, grotesque racial slurs on signs and posters. The racist elements in the tea party that concern me are these things. You don't really go to a republican party rally and see signs with the n word on them. You see that quite a bit at the tea party rallies. Some jerk just got kicked out of the tea party for his racist comments, so it's not like I am making this up or being hypersensitive about it.
Finally, I don't think the interviewee is mindless or stupid. I understand his reaction completely, and people who have grasp of American history will also understand it. I think you understand it as well, you just don't think it's justified anymore, and this is conversation about race that we've been having as Americans for years. I don't think he's devious, either. I don't think racism in the country is over by a long shot (just look at some of the comments on this site, calling black people slurs), but we've come a long way.
I really don't give a rip what these racists say. Doesn't matter to me. Just don't mess with me or my family; then I will give a rip and it ain't pretty. We're 87% – you're 13% – go figure it out. But I think you're too stupid to figure it out.
Where is the white on asian racism? If whites are racist then the asians should be PO'ed. Asians make up 6%.
I got two words for those clowns on CNN. Act right. Act right and we will all get along. Don't steal. Don't sit around and take welfare. Don't do crack. Be a father. Pay taxes. Get a job. Pull up your pants. If a black does that then they are called an uncle tom.
As far as I can figure out you’re are trying to intimidate us and make us feel like we owe you something. We owe you nothing. You are the racist and shakedown artist. As far as I can tell black people commit the most murders, go to prison more often, have the lowest IQ, have the lowest commitment to family life, commit the most trouble wherever they are in the world. Do they make anything in black africa except wars? No.
Yeah we are racist.If racist means not wanting to live with people who are loud and dirty then we are racist.If racist means we don,t want to live with people who are lazy then we are racist.If racist means we don,t want to live with people who dress like they were in a costume party of show your as s then we are racist.I f not wanting to live with people who go to clubs and shoot each other then we are racist.If racist is not wanting to live with people who sell and use drugs then we are racist.If racist is not wanting to be with people who don,t like us then we are racist.I guess you are right ,we are racist.
In case any lefties cannot see it yet, this president is attempting to spark a civil war in America and Ballantine was sent out by the DNC leadership to deliberately crank up the heat and the tension.
One word from Obama and this guy may have reserved his words but Obama knew what he was going to say and he sanctioned it.
Obama could care less about who dies as a result of this evil even if you support him because in his eyes every life is a tool and every death is just a means to an end.
When the time comes and you are no longer useful to him he will plow you under just like Mao did to so many tens of millions of his own supporters just a few short decades ago.
I am ashamed to share America's free air with the likes of Warren Ballentine or Barack Obama, they are not worthy of this country or of the constitutional liberties that gave them the power to spew this hatred against me.
That sounds like more of the progressive, "I don't support the war but I support the troops" Barbra Streisand stuff.
The fact is that most blacks are racist and most whites are not. It's that simple.
White vote for Obama was split – black vote for Obama was so one-sided you know it was based on race. Case closed.
Got news for this moron. The reason he gets away with saying such a stupid thing is the color of his skin. CNN dare not take this dunce off the air lest they be slapped with a racial discrimination lawsuit. He might as well of said that it was racial discrimination that wiped out the dinosaurs. It would be just as stupid as just as incorrect as the bs he babbled about here.
I live in Anchorage, Alaska with 14,000 black people. Black people here, 5 percent of the population routinely commit 20 to 90 percent of the murders here. Young black men fly up here, go to black clubs here, get in an argument with another black guy, pull out a gun and shoot him. This is a regular occurence here-in Alaska. I can only imagine how it is in the rest of the country.
"I dont think you are racist, your ideology is racist"
So, they hate the Constitution. the Constitution is 'racist' what morons.
"What are we teaching our children by denigrating the rich? Are we teaching them not to strive, not to work hard, not to be all they can be? Are we coddling mediocrity?"
Yes! Just substitute "rich man" for "white man" in the following quotation; the societal results will be the same. "Victimization" is a life-crippling belief system; a belief in "exceptionalism" is life-liberating.
BILL COSBY: It is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us (Applause) and it keeps… it keeps a person frozen in their seat.
You are so correct!
Thank you for speaking the truth!
I'm really sick of all this race bullshit. Day and night they hammer away at it. It's boring and it's counter-productive.
Had a bad time of it? Well, you're not alone. Feeling beat down? Welcome to the club. A bit angry and resentful? O, let me count the ways! But don't tell me it's my fault, or that I should be pondering on this race issue all the time, or that I owe you anything. Because I don't. And don't expect me to feel guilty about "racism." I refuse.
And I refuse to take anyone seriously who doesn't also refuse and simply move on.
I'm sure there is some demented asshole who will take this for a "racist statement." Fine. Knock yourself out. But give some serious thought to doing what other Americans do every day of their lives: they get up, and they go out, and they get it done. Please. Give it a try.
And stop boring me.
Its incredible that we even need to comment about a CNN panel without a single white person to respond live to these folks…why do they insult us with thier one sided accusations and omit a fair exchange between us…then further the bias by invoking God.
This is racist, that they only want to tell us about it, and not really talk about it. States Rights are what preserve this nation, and that is not racist.
The Constitution "is" the law of the land. To define it as racist is to throw out equality and justice and freedom. The Constitution was good enough to use to justify to millions of white people that slavery was wrong, and that the civil war was right. Good enough for 665,000 mostly white men to die for. Good enough to make the statement to the world that slavery was wrong, a statement that much of the world emulates today.
So dont tell us about racism. We are black, white, red and yellow, we are the tea party, we give equal opportunity to everyone. You dont know what ideology drives us, you only pander words that make you feel good because you need somebody to hate, and that is where the real problem lies.
This is a ruse…there are no racist signs or comments at the tea party, if there are, they are asked to leave. This is only to create a ruse to get us off the # 1 problem….a bad economy.
So, I'm calling you out, along with papercanteen, show evidence of your libelous accusations!
Well, for example, read William's Lincoln Letter. He was denounced by the tea party because of it. It's not a video, but it's actual racism.
Posted by EyeofCyngus (sp.) on the next page, "The "states rights equals racism" argument is a falsehood promoted by those who have bought into the south's rationale for the Civil War. Read Lincoln's "House Divided." The slave states were seeking, through federal legislation and court precedent, to eliminate the distinction between slave and free state. By extending slave-owners' property rights into the free states, they would effectively eliminate "free" states entirely. The north realized what was going on and rejected it by electing Lincoln. The north was the true defender of States Rights, the right of ALL men to live free."
EllaBella….maybe you really don't know everything…ever consider that?
what a bs statement.
And he was expelled…and there are racist comments on this blog….
that doesn't prove that the tea party condones, supports, entices or incites racism.
This is a ruse. And you're not getting away with it, any longer.
"We haven't heard from the tea party what states' rights means to the tea party, so one has to conclude that the argument is being made in its most ordinary sense."
In other words, because someone said they're with the Tea Party and they support states' rights, we must assume the whole movement is racist until proven otherwise. Your reasoning is completely flawed.
You seem very misinformed when it comes to Tea Party history. During the first wave of the bailouts under President George W. Bush, people protested, but Congress didn't listen.
"So what changed? This how we get to part of the concerns about the tea party and racism. The change, of course, is a black president. The level of anger and mistrust directed at the President is scary."
What changed? What changed is that the current administration wanted to dwarf the amount of spending by the previous administration. Furthermore, they want to introduce radical policy that kills jobs, increases unemployment, and makes it harder for people to achieve economic success.
The protests against President Bush included making a movie dreaming about his assassination. Don't pretend political dissension only now got hot. It's been at a nasty level since the Bush years, and it came from people who didn't like his policies. Now President Obama has to face opposition, not nearly so hostile, and people like you think his skin color matters. It doesn't. There are people who think his policies are crap, and they don't care if he sells his crap with black skin, white skin, or randomly changing 32-bit-value-complete-with-an-alpha-channel color skin. To them it's still crap.
"He's called a socialist, a fascist, a communist, as if those things are interchangable."
They are not interchangeable, but they are very closely related. The Communists and Fascists were Socialists, although the Nazis tried to paint their Socialism as being a moderate happy medium between free-market Capitalism and Communist-style Socialism.
For what President Obama promotes, it is indeed socialistic. Among other things, he spoke of wanting to redistribute wealth, obviously through government force by taxation, which is clearly Marxist in ideology.
"You don't really go to a republican party rally and see signs with the n word on them. You see that quite a bit at the tea party rallies. Some jerk just got kicked out of the tea party for his racist comments, so it's not like I am making this up or being hypersensitive about it."
You see the N word quite a bit at Tea Party rallies? You are one of the biggest liars on this website, or you're one of the most gullible to believe this crap.
It's going to suck for the race-baiting Dems when the people remember in November.
Race hate crime ……
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article...
I never said knew everything, I don't know why you have that impression. However, I would say that you should read Calhoun, rather than Lincoln, if you really want to know about the states' rights doctrine in advance of the Civil War. Then review some of George Wallace's speeches, or the Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond's remarks, about states' rights in a more modern context (and the evolution of the modern republican party). In contemporary times, what are the prevalent states' rights debates? It's mostly about gay marriage, another civil rights issue.
You're misinformed Ella, you can't be denounced by a movement that has no leadership structure and thus no mechanism to "denounce" anyone..
A faction of "The Tea Party Movement" that constitutes the republican contribution to the group issued a statement, and a mainstream media which has no idea how to cover the tea-party and no desire to do it even if they did glommed on to that statement from one relatively small corner as a movement wide admission and acceptance that there is racism within the party.
Regarding William's letter – Have YOU read it? It's satire, and it was literally inspired by the recent NAACP attacks on the movement. Look at the real issues here and then look at how the democrats and the liberal left have performed on ANY of them, and then maybe you'll begin to see why members of the tea party movement find the charges of racism so insulting and rediculous.
Nobody is talking about race except the left, and the only reason it's a topic is because they can't win on the issues. The NAACP accomplished its new mission (since it really hasn't had much reason to exist for the last couple decades) of giving the Democratic party something they can stall on (can't win on it) and stall they have. Economy? No no, lets talk about that racism. Oil Spill? "Well, I just think it's a damn shame the way that innocent woman was treated".
The greatest crime by far this administration is guilty of is the absolute abuse of the concept of hope. So many people in my age group were really energized and finally excited about the future. Of changing the way the game is played from the closed off back-room nonsense the system has morphed into over the last hundred or so years, and to that bright new day where everything gets posted online, full transparency and all implemented ideas have a firm basis in physical reality rather than political. Clearly, that has not happened.
The unintended consequence is the awakening of the American right which is far greater in number and strength than anyone thought possible.
But you go ahead and tell me all about William's letter.
Or perhaps, currently, about a federal mandate for people to pay for other peoples health insurance, that will bankrupt this country even more.
And gay rights being civil rights is debatable, perhaps, also?
You can't libel an organization. Only an individual. Again, check out the Williams letter. It's gross and hateful. The tea party was right to expel him. The whole Sherrod debacle, which was done in supposed defense of the tea party, has completely distracted from that effort to distance the tea party from racism.
And for the record, I voted for Obama.
The guy who posted it, Breitbart, said it was to show the hideous reaction to Sherrod's racism by the audience at the NAACP event, it was never about Sherrod, so her later epiphany to the wrongness of her one-time racism is of no real consequence to any of this discussion.
So we're not racist but our ideology is racist?? That's nice to hear, he's not attacking us, just our system of ideals. Well if standing up for state's rights is racist then call me a racist. I cant help but remember the way the media reacted when Rand Paul discussed his views on the 1964 Civil Rights Act: Rand is so racist because he thinks private businesses should have rights! Give me a break!
America…states rights are Constitutional! Members of the so called 'tea party'…better known as 'real' Americans…are of all races, all parties, all religion, all genders and all ages!
Our ideas and vision for America are not 'racist'…our ideas go back to our founding fathers! We want equality for all and discrimination against none.
You, young man, have believed your black slave owners too long about victimization. You are no more a victim than I.
You have been given the same rights as I…and perhaps…you have even received more than I. You hold a good position of authority and prominence and it is because you live in America where you have been free to be anything you want!
"Real" Americans want that for all of America…no matter their color!
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did anyone expect any other kind of answer? Did anyone think he would say "We know its just politics" ??
States' rights has a meaning, which you have acknowledged. You also are arguing that it does not have that meaning here. So say why. What's the states' rights issue for the tea party? This will be the second time I've asked.
The current administration's spending is in line with the prior administration's spending; in fact a bit less. Where was the tea party before the bailouts, when the bulk of the spending occurred? And for the record, many more people than just the tea party were opposed to the Bush bailouts.
What radical policies to kill jobs, increase unemployment, etc? Be specific to be credible.
There is certainly criticism of the President that is not racist. He promised to close Guantanamo, for example. he didn't. We are nowhere in Afghanistan. And there also is criticism of him that is racially motivated. Why is this so hard for you to believe? Why are you so committed to the idea that, unlike the democratic and republican parties, the tea party is somehow free of racism? For example, how on earth is the President trying to start a race war? What would make anyone think that this man, who has a white mother, has "a deep seated hatred of white people." (Beck)
As for interchangabiilty, I can only tell you look these words and ideologies up and learn a little more. Who on earth are "The Communists"? Are you taking Soviet, Chinese, Cuban, or what? Same with "The Fascists." Sorry, but I can't read your mind.
Obama does not promote socialism: even the government bailouts (except for the auto industry, set up under Bush, as you have acknowledged) did not assume control of industries in question (for auto industry, the government did not even get preferred stock and related voting rights!). Health care, for example, is not socialist in any sense of the word because the government is not assuming control over the means of production in the industry. All this talk about socialism is hysteria.
Call me a liar all you want. I don't really do ad hominem, it's no way to win an argument, or have a civilized debate or discussion.
Black children who work hard and want to achieve are called out for "acting white" and are referred to as "Oreos".
I refuse to acknowledge "race". It's all classism now. "Race" is a distraction. When lefties use that card now, take it as an offer of surrender. There is nothing constructive for them to say. I guess they are waving the white flag. That must be racist!
I look hard for exceptional children. I push them as hard as I can – out of love. They are my gift. Love will be our resistance!
Free the achievers!!
Unlike the NAACP, we're not the ones with the term, 'Colored People' in our moniker. We don't work 'for the advancement' of only one group of Americans – we speak on behalf of all Americans who are tired of a rogue government and its out of control spending. There is ZERO mention of race, gender, orientation or political affiliation contained in our mission statement, while theirs are entirely about race and race-baiting. And our members are more diverse than theirs on any given day. So — They may wish to examine which political groups obsess about skin color 24/7/365, and which political group only mentions it to disprove their tired, Alinsky-esque accusations.
What hideous reaction? There is no one clapping or applauding or laughing when she told that story. It was pretty clearly about Sherrod as well, you can't tell me you really believe that post hoc rationalization. Did you see the edited video? Breitbart added slates claiming that Sherrod performed her government duties through a prism of race, when he knew full well that the experience she was discussing in the video was 20+ years before she became a government employee. He held her up as an example or racism being indulged at the NAACP. His behavior was dishonorable.
We have been paying for other people's heath insurance with federal money for years. All federal employees, including congressmen, have federal health insurance that our tax dollars pay for. Same for Medcare, for old folks. Same for the military. Same for the disabled. How is that a states' rights issue at this point?
Equal protection is a civil right. At the moment, gay American citizens do not have the same rights as straight American citizens. There is no debate about that. There can be no debate about that, it's a fact. The only debate to be had is whether gay people "deserve" the same rights everyone else has. I think they do.
Yes, I watched somewhere of 30 mins, I don't know if it was the whole speech.
I admire the woman, my reaction at first was simply applauding Breitbart for holding politicians accountable.
And if you're claiming there's no racism against 'whites' in the NAACP, you need a hearing aid.
One more thing, I have to get up for church….I wish this had never been posted, because it played perfectly into the ruse. Please read commentary by Star Parker about this controversy.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
Goodnight
What is a ruse? We are having a disagreement, so it's a ruse?
Is there a difference between being a racist and holding racist ideology?
Actually, no, there isn't. He's engaging in double-talk.
The difference is that the last people to make a big deal about state's rights were racist Democrats, this time it is non-racist Republicans and it isn't for the sake of keeping slaves. Nor was the GOP responsible for Jim Crow laws – that was your beloved Democrat Party once again (as was opposition to Brown v. Board of Ed., the creation of the KKK, Planned Parenthood's black holocaust, etc., and now the Black Panthers, the New Black Panthers, the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People, etc.). State's rights was not and is not the main problem, the problem has always been and continues to be DEMOCRATS! Do you see the trend yet? Racism is in your party's DNA from both whites and now blacks. You people thrive on it, use it as a weapon against political enemies, and exploit it for votes. It's called the "race card" because you play it like a game. It's sickening and evil, and once you see it you can never un-see it. It's crystal clear to Republicans (both black and white) and we are never going to change because OUR party's tradition is one of liberty and opportunity for all – always has been, always will be. You will receive no apology for conservatism's belief in all men being created equal, the inherent fairness of capitalism (get what you earn), and limited government. Speaking of which, it was racist DEMOCRATS trying to use the FEDERAL government to strong arm the North that lead to the Civil War (but they won't teach you that in history class), then pulling that bit about "state's rights" (as if they cared). Ever hear of the Missouri Compromise? How about Dred Scott v. Sandford? Both fine examples of Democrats using the Fed to impose its racism upon the Union (kind of like abortion on demand). That's YOUR tradition, not ours. Slavery, segregation, and dead babies – enjoy your legacy Democrats.
I have read the letter. I've already said, it's hateful. It fails at satire, because it's humorless and lacks subtlety. Why are you defending the letter? Why would it's retraction be a bad thing for the tea party?
I never said democrats or liberals have performed well; it only highlights that there is a problem here. If you haven't noticed, everyone is talking about race, especially since the Sherrod debacle. This week, the biggest financial reform bill since the Great Depression was passed, so the administration does seem to be accomplishing something.
I am sorry you have despaired and lost hope. Luckily, not everyone has.
Goodnight.
You are either ignorant of both economics and history, or else you are purposely trying to spin away with ridiculous talking points. Government control and regulation is the hallmark of Socialism, along with the necessary redistribution of wealth. That President Obama wants to achieve this is indisputable. He has been attempting to take over one industry after another, including the auto industry and health care as you noted. He also stated that he does indeed wish to redistribute wealth. Your arguing over technicalities of the power grab is intellectually dishonest. He isn't supporting the free market; he's supporting taking it over and regulating it, which causes detrimental side effects to everyone.
I already told you that the Tea Party doesn't stand expressly for states' rights, and I didn't acknowledge anything on that subject in the manner that you imply. The Tea Party movement stands for fiscal responsibility in government. That's why they are protesting the federal government's actions on spending.
"Call me a liar all you want. I don't really do ad hominem, it's no way to win an argument, or have a civilized debate or discussion."
No, the way for a liberal to try to win an argument is to call people racists falsely — oh, wait, you tried that already. It didn't work.
Let's take another look at your wonderful example of liberal Journolist-style debating:
"You don't really go to a republican party rally and see signs with the n word on them. You see that quite a bit at the tea party rallies."
It's simple.
If you want to make the accusation that the Tea Party is racist, provide the evidence.
Put up or shut up.
I am obviously not ignorant of economics or history. Regulation is not a hallmark of socialism. Government ownership of the means of production is a hallmark of socialism. Government ownership and regulation are not equivalents, that is a category mistake. Government ownership has not happened in either the health care or auto industries. Those are not technicalities. Regulating health care and reforming the system does not constitute a takeover of the free market. Similarlly, financial industry reform does not constitute a takeover of the free market.
Please go back and read my comments carefully. You have not responded to my questions about states' rights and the tea party. If you don't know, then you don't know, no need to continue discussing it.
Who did I call a racist? When did that ever happen? Again, read the comments carefully. I am "call[ing] people racists falsely"? You are incorrect.
I have cited to you the Williams letter. Take a look at the signs demanding the President's birth certificate, calling him a Muslim (as if that was so horrible), suggesting that he is not an American citizen, and yes, using the n-word. Why are you defending this? Do you really believe the tea party is free of racism, when no other political party or group seems to be?
Finally, there really is no need to be so hostile toward me.
The Tea Party is against overtaxation and the fiscal irresponsibility in Washington. Race somehow doesn't fit into that. The left is very, very nervous about the next two elections obviously. Their desperation is a good sign.
"Who did I call a racist? When did that ever happen? Again, read the comments carefully. I am 'call[ing] people racists falsely'? You are incorrect."
Do I need to keep repeating you?
"You don't really go to a republican party rally and see signs with the n word on them. You see that quite a bit at the tea party rallies."
Your cries of racism are empty.
"Take a look at the signs demanding the President's birth certificate, calling him a Muslim (as if that was so horrible), suggesting that he is not an American citizen, and yes, using the n-word. Why are you defending this?"
Defending what?
I'm not defending anything. I'm demanding that you prove your accusations. Who held up signs with the N-word? Name him. Show a picture. Do something to demonstrate you have proof of these allegations.
You're an evil, race-baiting individual with these accusations of racism by phantom Tea Party patriots.
A bit less? are you kidding me? Ella I suggest you see todays numbers on our record budget deficit.Nobody was happy with Bush when he left office either or did you forget his low approval numbers when he left office.You really think that people want Jim Crow laws again?Who's a racist?You are branding everybody who does not agree with the Federal government racist.Wow,are you an American?The Fed has took parts of auto companies and given them to the union.They are taking over health care against the will of the American people.Nobama as senator campaigned in Kenya for the communist candidate.The Fed will not protect the border,Laredo Texas is advising it's citizens to stay indoors for fear of them being injured by the drug war across the border.The Feds have signs 80 miles into Arizona warning Americans to avoid the area because of the dangers of Mexican drug traffic .Shall I go on? That's just off the top of my head.Last of all it greatly offends me that because I think Nobama's a terrible President then I must be a racist.Are all people of color that did not like G.W. Bush racist too?
The majority of Asians strive to assimilate, work hard and push their children to achieve. I don't even notice them, because they are in fact assimilating successfully AND they don't whine constantly. There are a whole lot of angry blacks that are angry for the right reason – they're being used by leftists. These clowns like Ballantine are the ones hurting blacks.
Most black people should never own houses. Can you imagine the government forcing banks to loan money to black people on the basis of a racial quota? That's what the new Dodd-Frank financial bill does. Black people are involved in abuse of drugs, alcohol and other humans. The jails around the nation are filled with a higher proportion of black people than any other race. Some people including white people should rent forever.
exactly c.d.53, exactly. regular people who work hard and have reached the end of their patience.
When he thinks states rights he thinks Jim Crow??
i must of missed the crow class., i must of been out back
passing the jim bean around.,if you keep saying you got to
get pass the race thing, but all you do is talk about race.,
Your as dumb as a bag of dog poop.,you dont want to get passed it
you get power with it.,and everyone knows that's,,so just STFU.,pissante…
another Oblahblah Liberal Azzhole Communist Droon.Black Liberation isn't a Religion
its a Political Movement.,with a religious name.,The IRS NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
Its part of Community activism movement..why do you think Ohblahblah sat there for 20yrs.,Wake Up..
You Cant pay any mind to what he says.,pay attention to what he does.,He says one thing and does the complete
opposite.,He hates America.,its painfully obvious to me.,everything he does is a negative for America.,,
There are NO "racist elements in the TEA Party". Got it yet? Oh, you thought there were? You ARE WRONG. The TEA party has NOTHING to do with race, period. It is all about being adult, responsible, and living within our proven limits.
Look up Dale Robertson in the Houston tea party, if you insist. And again, take a look at all the signs calling the President a Muslim and asking about his birth certificate. What exactly do you think that means? And again, why are you defending it?
I'll ask you again: there is no need to be so hostile toward me. Please compose yourself.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/...
It's kind of sad when you have to find people pretending to be leaders and founders of Tea Party groups.
The man was thrown out, and apparently continues to lie (much like you are doing about racism at Tea Party meetings) about his status.
You lose again.
Checkmate.
I am not sure where your conclusions are coming from. Our record budget deficit is not only the work of our current administration. We are stuck with two wars that we need to pay for. No one seems to want to pay taxes for those wars. I am not calling "everyone who does not agree with the Federal government racist." That's just false.
Yes I am an American. The Fed did not give parts of the auto companies to the unions–they gave most of Detroit to Fiat, in fact, and took stock and warrants in the companies. By doing so, they saved many jobs. With respect to health care, you are aware that a democratic process was followed and duly elected officials voted for law. That is not a "take over of health are against the will of the American people." That is how our country works.
The appetite for drugs in this country existed long before 2010. Making everyone carry around their papers for inspection is an irrational and harebrained solution.
If you don't like President Obama because you don't like his policies, why would you be a racist? If you don't like Obama because you think he's a secret Muslim with a false birth certificate, well then, you may have a problem. Of course people of color who disliked Geroge Bush are not all racists, by a similar token: if your dislike stemmed from his policies, it's a principled disagreement. If it stems from his skin color, then you are a jerk.
Why was he thrown out? What was on the sign he was carrying?
Spin what you want to say anyway you want, Hotdog.
Point-is, you and your racist ilk have absolutely No stand to prove that The Tea Party stems from any racist ideology, like the New Black Panther Party, Reverend Wright's Trininty Church, FarraKhan's Muslim church, in Chicago.
You people make everyone sick, so, STFU, BIGOTS!!!
What in your opinion is the meaning of all the comments/signs/discussions about the President's birth certificate, or the claims that he is a Muslim (and I am not saying that I think being a Muslim is a bad thing)? Do you find that fair commentary with no racist overtones or suggestions?
He was thrown out of the meeting because he was one of your operatives running around trying to put up racist imagery in order to promote the lie that Tea Party members are racist. Yes, it was the N-word (albeit misspelled), written and brought by someone totally unconnected with the group in question, apparently lying that he was a member and founder of that same group. (Do read the article. It's pretty interesting.)
Oh, by the way, there is a known group out there that admits to wanting to infiltrate the Tea Party movement and make them look bad. Unfortunately for them and their dastardly plot, the Tea Party members are not letting such morons into their ranks. Nevertheless, this kind of subversive tactics sounds like something you'd advocate.
You're out of ammo. Surrender. It's over.
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Ah, states' rights are racist. So he hates the Constitution. He tramples the Tea Party people's ideology as being entirely racist. And then when he's finished it all, he invokes God, as if that's going to score him points. God doesn't appreciate people trying to invoke him for evil. Idiot.