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This trick may have been used 100 times before. It is unconstitutional. It is unconstitutional now and it was unconstitutional then. To do this is unlawful and therefore criminal.
Controversy doesn’t bother him at all.
IT’S YOUR BOSS WHO IS COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH DOWN OUR THROATS!
Typical Liberal Democrat!
You have been there for 18 years… time to GO!
He11 or high water, they will ram this bill through. Enjoy it fellas…until November.
Yeah, try passing this bill without a vote. Americans will remember who supported the bill before the vote! WE WILL NOT FORGET! You will be unemployed in November and the “Chosen” will also be kicked to the curb in 2012. This bill will be repealed.
Clyburn you are another typical lying black democrat pig, just like the pig in office who is throwing you under the back of the bus.
Ramming OBAMACARE is like DATE RAPE
Just because many Independents, Democrats and even Republicans voted for this Dude because they liked him, it is not OK for this dude to ram this Bill against the consent of the People.
It is like a woman going out on a date with a nice black dude, and when things get heated the woman says NO!
NO means NO! That was the UN-spinnable answer from Massachusetts!
Mr. Obama: Just because we liked you at the start of this date it does not mean we want to do what you say.
So, Mr. President: What part of NO you do not understand?
Ramming OBAMMACARE is like DATE RAPE.
Just because many Independents, Democrats and even Republicans voted for this Dude because they liked him, it is not OK for this dude to ram this Bill against the will of The People.
It is like a woman going out on a date with a nice black dude, and when things get heated the woman says NO!
NO means NO! That was the UN-spinnable answer from Massachusetts!
Mr. Obama: Just because we liked you at the start of this date it does not mean we want to do what you say.
So, Mr. President: What part of NO you do not understand?
It’s valid. The rethugs have done it many times. There’s only a problem because they are trying to kill healthcare reform.
Bush lead on Iraq, we need to lead on healthcare reform.
Everything anyone needs to know about Obama’s Health Care Takeover Bill:
Watch this VIDEO,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
Then, send the video to everyone that you know, and then all of you contact your Congressmen/women with a copy of the video and demand that they watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
and then DEMAND that they VOTE NO on anything that the people responsible for this bill ever try to force on us!
THE CREATORS AND SUPPORTERS OF THIS BILL ARE THE ENEMY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, WITHIN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT!
ANYONE WHO HAS ALREADY VOTED YES FOR THIS HEALTH CARE TAKEOVER BILL SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THE CONSTITUTION.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
DrEdu:
I just read your comment and I would like to know why you had to make the DUDE in your example…a black DUDE?
I am always willing to hear a reasonable answer but your statement sounded pretty racist to me. (and I know that the term Racist is way over used!)
I do afree with the rest of your comment but the black Dude part was uncalled for!
DrEdu March 16th, 2010 – 1:13 pm
Ramming OBAMMACARE is like DATE RAPE.
Just because many Independents, Democrats and even Republicans voted for this Dude because they liked him, it is not OK for this dude to ram this Bill against the will of The People.
It is like a woman going out on a date with a nice black dude, and when things get heated the woman says NO!
NO means NO! That was the UN-spinnable answer from Massachusetts!
Mr. Obama: Just because we liked you at the start of this date it does not mean we want to do what you say.
So, Mr. President: What part of NO you do not understand?
Whatwhatwhat – ..and Obama is destroying this country with his socialistic, marxist, takeover of everything ‘we Americans’ call freedom!
Of course Repub’s don’t want socialism – either do Democrats – only socialists want socialism, look around, they’re easy to spot, THEY’RE THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER ALL MY DECISIONS ABOUT ‘MY’ HEALTH, ‘MY’ WEALTH, ‘MY’ FREEDOM, AND EVEN ‘MY’ DEATH – SCREW THEM!
Are you just a black leader lovin’ guy – or just an unemployed smuck waiting for somebody to pay your way for the rest of your miserable, unproductive life?
Clyburn…and he is ????? just another mouth piece …
This is a really bad idea on top of what is already a very unpopular bill that will likely do wonders to further destroy the American economy. The left’s talking points are well rehearsed, just as they were when Obama was running, but there is no substance behind them unless you count half-truths and outright lies. The primates who think that this bill will do any good at all are just fools. Every indication is that the legislation is loaded with paybacks, political favors and new entitlements which will further sink the USA down the money hole. The ideologs that believe that “health care is a right” should maybe become doctors themselves since they think that other people were born to serve them. THERE CAN BE NO RIGHT THAT REQUIRES OTHER PEOPLE TO SERVE YOU FOR A PRICE YOU DECIDE. THAT IS CALLED SLAVERY. If this bill passes, you can kiss the integrity of the health-care system in the USA goodbye, along with a huge number of future doctors who will choose not to go though the hell of medical school and internship only to be enslaved to the government.
@ Whatwhatwhat
“Bush lead (sic) on Iraq, we need to lead on healthcare reform.”
This is a very misleading statement. The Iraq War Resolution was bipartisan in both houses of Congress. Filibuster was never an issue, and the bills were passed by comfortable margins.
This health care legislation, however, is most certainnly NOT bipartisan. It does not have the support of a single Republican in the Senate – not even RINOs Collins, Gregg, Snowe, McCain, Graham, et al – NOT ONE. And in the House, ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN voted for the health care bill. That’s ONE REPUBLICAN out of the entire Congress.
Clearly, you support this legislation, and that’s just fine. In fact, I encourage the Dems to go right ahead and do whatever they think they can get away with. They have the majority – let them lead. But, let’s not bull_ _ _ t one another. This is NOT the same Bush and the Iraq War resolution, not even close. To argue such is nonsense.
Obama told some 300 clowns in Cleveland that their premiums would go down 3000%…he also had a man carted out of the meeting for speaking his mind…and pretented the man fainted ….the cops took him away…obama said he a medic….maybe it was Christine Matthews from MSNBC’s Softballs…remember how he gets a tingle down his leg!!!! 3000% PERCENT…I guess he gets a CORPSEMEN to do the math!
What Clyburn just said is that they aren’t going to vote for this bill – they already have!
What they’re going to vote on, if they vote, is the Reconciliation (the changes)….
Don’t be surprised if they don’t have a Reconciliation bill – and screw both the dem’s and republicans –
they don’t need to add changes – it will already be a bill!
Unconstitutional for sure, but what do we expect when our elected representatives defy the will of the people that don’t want this bill!
Democrats, is this what you wanted to do when you ran for office? Is this bill worth YOUR political career?
Propping up an unpopular presidental health care bill – at YOUR expense? Remember, YOU will be a 1 term representative – Obama doesn’t give a crap about YOU – he just needs to be ‘popular’!
Dem’s and Repub’s alike don’t want this bill -stand up to this 1 term president – the reprcussions will be great, for years to come. Is this what you want to be remembered for? Especially in YOUR community?
What Clyburn just said is that they aren’t going to vote for this bill – they already have!
What they’re going to vote on, if they vote, is the Reconciliation (the changes)….
Don’t be surprised if they don’t have a Reconciliation bill – and screw both the dem’s and republicans –
they don’t need to add changes – it will already be a bill!
Unconstitutional for sure, but what do we expect when our elected representatives defy the will of the people that don’t want this bill!
Democrats, is this what you wanted to do when you ran for office? Is this bill worth YOUR political career?
Propping up an unpopular presidental health care bill – at YOUR expense? Remember, YOU will be a 1 term representative – Obama doesn’t give a crap about YOU – he just needs to be ‘popular’!
Dem’s and Repub’s alike don’t want this bill -stand up to this 1 term president – the reprecussions will be great, for years to come. Is this what you want to be remembered for? Especially in YOUR community?
Several humorous cartoons on the corruption behind the healthcare vote at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/corruption/
The second one is about Slaughter’s “Constitutional Malpractice.”
only 18 years…Well then it is time for you to go. Never used to take over one sixth of the economy and force individuals to purchase health care insurance. When government can do that it is time to take our country back and throw the facists out.
Notice,fellow voters,how he says I’ve only been here 18 years.He says it as if it’s just a start on his career appointment.Please young voters,think of how easy he said that and with the knowledge that he is not going away.Many of you were young children when he got in and will have children who will still have to deal with him.
Good Lord !
There will be blood in the streets– get prepared.
According to http://www.americanparchment.com Clyburn said we need to pass this bill for ‘his’ memory. Not for Kennedy either, it’s for Obama’s legacy.
November can’t come fast enough.
Amateur hour gone wild. What we need is a nationwide recall of every and I mean every member of congress.
Mark Levin is a constitutional lawyer. He said this has NEVER been done before. There is a parliamentarian that adheres to the rules. The rule is that the house must vote for the senate bill, Obama has to sign it, and then they can modify it. James Madison was instrumental in setting these rules of conduct within the House/Senate.
This is not reconciliation. Liberals seem to want to paint reconciliation and this unconstitutional process as one in the same. This is to avoid having the house vote on the bill …. because it won’t pass. This is akin to Marshall Law.
Is Clyburn a constitutional lawyer? Has he studied the constitution? Does he know someone who has studied the constitution? Does he live within 100 miles of someone who studied the constitution? I don’t trust Clyburn’s opinion on if these shenanigans have a precedent.
Clyburn is one of congress’s truly great simpletons. Liberal and entitlement driven like all leftists, we should expect little else of his ilk.
@H2K
I think you meant ‘Martial Law’, as in emergency militarily-enforced law, limitations, and sanctions imposed upon citizens carte blanc…
Bottom line: Obama’s Chicago-style politics IS governing at the point of a gun; pure, base thuggery and reprehensible. Also, likely a violation of the separation of powers. Those Democrats in the House and Senate who are bending over backwards and bending and breaking ALL the rules to ‘pass’ Health Care are likely in violation of their oath of office and also vulnerable to impeachment. Either way, they are DEFINITELY vulnerable to getting roundly kicked out of office by We The People.
Snailmailtrucke
…chill, Dude: I am not a white person!
I wrote nice black dude because obama is -to some- a nice black dude. That is factual, not racial.
I hope I did not offend you or anyone…Did not mean it that way, bro!
I dont really care what color some one is just dont care what some of them are trying to do to this country I feel NO means NO also but would say that if the prez was white or red or yellow or blue or whatever!!!
Dems at their apex, jerking,jacking,squirming: just being Dems. If you really want a good look at how this crew rolls, hearken back to their own national convention and how they simply change their OWN rules to exact an outcome by the chosen few. Delegates not counted, then counted on a 3/5th basis, no wait that not quite right either, so damn complicated, no one could comprehend, nor cared too. Just a bunch of gouged up people in straw hats chanting. Holy Moly Oly, life as we know it changed on a technicality. (Again, my war cry, “Now I know what happened to the Mayan civilization!”)
America…DO NOT GO THROUGH THE GENERAL SWITCHBOARD IN WASHINGTON! IT WILL BE OVERLOADED AND YOU WILL NOT GET THROUGH!
Go here instead to get the numbers/emails of your State reps:
1. USA.gov
2. At top…click on ’site index’
3. At left…click on ‘federal government’
4. In middle…click on ‘legislative’
5. Pick Senate and then put in your state
6. Pick House and then put in your state
This is the only way for you to make an impact…not the switchboard!
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1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!
ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!
Back-door reparations.
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From Minnesota march 16th 2:21
Love the comics very funny , I can see pelosi waterboarding people for real lol lol.
RISE!
I’d like to see some of these “so called lawyers”…I just don’t believe Clyburn is nor Yomma…anyone could get a degree…they can’t even read or speak correctly….sorta like a NFL player…too many hits in the head. Corpsemen, Masschewchetts, what a joke…honey if ya need me I’ll be on the balcony having a smoke!
Sorry, folks. Deem and Pass is perfectly legit and was ruled Constitutional by the SCOTUS just a few years ago. I’m not crazy about the HC bill but it’s going to pass. Given that the GOP has no real alternative and the talking points of tort reform and cross-state purchasing don’t amount to much the bill probably should pass. If you had something real to offer a few months ago besides obstructionism it might have mattered. But not any more.
More disturbing is the hysterical tone here of blood in the streets, the clear racism and the ideological and vague blather about freedom and the Constitution that can’t be supported by facts.
Why is it that getting 30 million people insurance they can’t afford upsets you so much, anyway? Some bizarro scenario that the “wrong” kind of people might be saved? You should know the stats: 45,000 dead every year from lack of insurance. That’s a 9/11 every month. Why doesn’t that bother you more?
if they deeming they sceeming.,
holy hell hanna.,i thought his moron was going
to cry.,100 times??really can you name one.,,
that would have been a good question..
theres 3 or 4 ways to pass a bill.,what are those
besides voting on them.,please tell us,,dipshiet
you mean you pass bills without voting on them.,guess
that maks sense,,we already kno you dont read them so passing
them without voting isnt that far a stretch.
i think we be deeming someones political career is over.,yup done finished over.
One word for Clyburn. MOROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
Get a clue idiot stick!!
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ANOTHER idiot who never read the Constitution.
Dear Clyburn…TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE A RIGHT!
CLEAN HOUSE IN 2010.
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hey flossophy – how & when was the deem & pass option used in the same context as the dems who are trying to push through a major piece of legislation that would consume one sixth of our economy ? from what i have read & seen on various talk shows from constitutional lawyers ( and yes even liberal constitutional lawyers ! ) that even though deem & pass was used on minor issues , they have all stated that it has NEVER been used on a major piece of legislation of this magnitude . so , flossophy , how can you say that this obscure scotus ruled it constitutional when it has NEVER been used in the 230 year history of our nation ?
We need to get Mr Clyburn on the same page as we.
1) If this has been done in the past, it was wrong.
2) The Dem party has said that they want a super majority for major legislation. Obama stated something similar.
3) The Dem party said “up or down”. Up or down means everyone puts their name on their vote.
4) Has there really been a case where the Senate passed a bill, and the house didn’t vote for it and the president didn’t sign it?
This is another weasel that is dodging the question.
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Liberals would love nothing better but to rule by decree.
These domestic enemies of America and the Constitution need to be tarred and feathered old school.
DTOM!
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