British Health Care System Moves Toward Free Market Solutions

The Government has announced sweeping changes for the NHS to end the "old command and control" regime brought in by Labour.

July 12, 2010 at 10:53 am - AP
Dateline: London
mg24   July 12th, 2010 - 6:03 pm

Imagine that. Nationalized healthcare not working? Knock me over with a feather, what is this world coming to?

freedom rocks   July 12th, 2010 - 6:04 pm

I wonder if the left will still think it is such a great idea to follow Europe's lead.

Dave_in_Oregon   July 12th, 2010 - 6:05 pm

But the MORONS in Washington DC think because it is THEM doing it here, that it will surely work.

What arrogance!

DavidC99   July 12th, 2010 - 6:08 pm

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."
~ Friedrich von Hayek

jake98   July 12th, 2010 - 6:13 pm

Here's my question…… How many European socialist programs need to fail, and move back towards either fiscal responsibility based programs, or free market solution programs before the left here in the U.S. will stop trying to convince us how great all their systems are.

I also wonder what Obama's new medicare chief will have to say about this since he couldn't praise Great Britain's NHS enough in speech after speech.

Hailodumbo   July 12th, 2010 - 6:13 pm

no news here. Nationalize health care won't work in this day and age. Too many factors(costs, unemployment, Debt, taxes…..) will not make it work….. it was also interesting to note that European nations bailing out Greece also privatized the Greece health plans. These socialist nations said they wouldn't support Greece's nationalized health care, which is failing along with everything else.

TexasStomp   July 12th, 2010 - 6:14 pm

No that's a good thing.

Our death panel Czar says he LOVES BRITISH HEALTH CARE.

So the more they move AWAY from the socialist model, the more he will have to follow his beloved system and do likewise….or he will be under the bus with his other inconvenient "socialist" buddies.

sux when yur hero switches sides, don't it. :-) ))))))

mg24   July 12th, 2010 - 6:19 pm

Here is my answer… It doesn't matter how many of them fail. They BELIEVE their plans will work, because their ideology has become a religion to them. You can try to tell devoutly religious (doesn't matter what religion) that their god doesn't exist and get the same reaction as trying to point out to believers in socalism that it will not work.

from_minnesota   July 12th, 2010 - 6:28 pm

Just a gentle reminder of how Obamacare got passed in this country.

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wohlfguy   July 12th, 2010 - 6:29 pm

Good news, but we all know that the ideologues now in power will not be swayed. They are not concerned if it really works or not as they will all be long gone before the effects are felt by the citizens. What they are all about is POWER. Keeping it and keeping all Americans dependent on the State for all of their needs. This way they believe that their party will remain in power.

Eileen for Freedom   July 12th, 2010 - 6:33 pm

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Subsalior   July 12th, 2010 - 6:34 pm

Really ? REALLY ??? Well no $HIT ! Well, who'd a thunk it ! But I guess Barry & Co. haven't quite gotten up to speed on this yet…

di_da_is_alpha   July 12th, 2010 - 6:44 pm

Maybe Taguba will take his other sock puppet, Guckert, and move to Great Britian and yip and yap at them for not being commie enough for his dumba$$. I'm done with that punk, but just remember that he has at least one other account and tries to make it look like there are more progs than there really are. http://intensedebate.com/people/Guckert

LookAndSee   July 12th, 2010 - 6:46 pm

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thefedupamrican   July 12th, 2010 - 7:03 pm

So Britain is getting rid of their 'death panels' while Obama is instituting them here! http://www.thefedupamerican.com

grapejelly   July 12th, 2010 - 7:03 pm

Can anyone else here that old Tower of Power song " Don't change horses in the middle of the stream". It's ringing in my head loud and clear, I can just picture Barry singing it now!

grapejelly   July 12th, 2010 - 7:05 pm

Sock puppet, I thought that was his date!

DontTreadOnMe   July 12th, 2010 - 7:05 pm

I believe that I can provide more empirical proof that God exists and acts in my daily life than I can provide demonstrating that Socialism improves mankind's condition.

di_da_is_alpha   July 12th, 2010 - 7:07 pm

Just add lipstick.

DontTreadOnMe   July 12th, 2010 - 7:12 pm

This won't change "their" minds because it was never about helping people anyway. It was only ever about grabbing POWER.

mg24   July 12th, 2010 - 7:19 pm

Socialism does improve mankind's condition. It's purely coincidental that the mankind whose condition get improved all work for the government, but lets not dwell on the pesky details.

grapejelly   July 12th, 2010 - 7:20 pm

I guess if he had enough to drink it could be the baby momma! LOL

Diptera   July 12th, 2010 - 7:23 pm

I can save you a lot of reading – MaoBama Care got passed because a lot of people cast a vote for someone they KNEW at the time was the WRONG person to vote for so they could feel SMUG about being so PC since he had already promised to wreck the health care system and destroy the coal industry and give us a drastic increase in home power cost. Everything he has done to date was promised BEFORE the election.

Diptera   July 12th, 2010 - 7:26 pm

Exactly right

Remember in November

TexasStomp   July 12th, 2010 - 7:30 pm

Dependency is a disease that has a cure. WILL.

We The People have the WILL to do what needs to be done.

DC forgot that.

We The People didn't.

NEVER AGAIN!

TexasStomp   July 12th, 2010 - 7:33 pm

Eileen,
Good job remembering to keep posting that link ever week. I get busy but I invariably run across your post during the week and I REMEMBER AND I VOTE!

THANK YOU!

TexasStomp   July 12th, 2010 - 7:34 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TexasStomp   July 12th, 2010 - 7:38 pm

Agreed, fedup,

Death panel, meet me.

Bring it, bozo.

Dave_in_Oregon   July 12th, 2010 - 7:40 pm

You should be more sympathetic to the mentally deranged!

Holdmynose   July 12th, 2010 - 8:15 pm

Recently saw a British woman debating their health system, she was very proud of it. At one point her opponent pointed out the long waits for service, she countered with ( I sort of quote) "not if you have insurance then you move to the front of the line".

WAIT, WAIT isn't that we have now sans the bureaucracy? We all pay higher prices for health care to pay for those who are treated for free? WHAT THE………

SpoonyNickerson   July 12th, 2010 - 9:43 pm

This is a step towards free market solutions?!?! What a misleading title.

I guess if you believe GWB supported free markets, or that Obama would bring change, you'll believe there's now been a shift in NHS practice.

minkxy   July 12th, 2010 - 10:38 pm

well…bamacre is really about getting that free money years ahead of time.I believe this is designed to spread money to friends and supporters.His words…spread the wealth

CBrooks1976   July 12th, 2010 - 11:01 pm

For the first time Europe is ahead of us in the cycle.

Dufenhiemer   July 12th, 2010 - 11:44 pm

Well, it works for a little while until you run out of your fellow man's money.

leroitroisieme   July 12th, 2010 - 11:59 pm

The American far-left will not listen and they will continue to try to take over health care. They just ignore what they do not like and make up lies as they go along to justify their position. Well, we are paying attention now.

Calvin_n_Hobbes   July 13th, 2010 - 2:41 am

Small European socialist countries have hit, or soon will be hitting, rock bottom and will soon slowly begin to rise again by giving up their socialist utopia ideas.

We on the other hand are not far behind and when we do hit rock bottom there will be a big disastrous tidelwave rippling throughout this country and throughout the world.

Obama and his Socialist Democrats are steering us there and quickly.

FreedomCrew76   July 13th, 2010 - 4:40 am

Impeach. Indict. Repeal.

mickrussom   July 13th, 2010 - 7:23 am

The UK is sick of government mass murder! NHS sucks! IMPEACH THE COMMUNIST LOSER OBAMA AND REPEAL HIS SATANIC LAWS OF MASS MURDER AND EUGENICS AND FABIAN SOCIALIST CRAP!

mickrussom   July 13th, 2010 - 7:23 am

More liberal culture of DEATH. Everything left wing is about killing human life from the left wing, the Marxists, the progressives. Everything. This is like George Bernard shaw, master Eugenicist and liberal, quote:

"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself."

In 1936, Shaw publicly defended Stalin's Great Terror, saying, “Even in the opinion of the bitterest enemies of the Soviet Union and of her government, the [purge] trials have clearly demonstrated the existence of active conspiracies against the regime… I am convinced that this is the truth, and I am convinced that it will carry the ring of truth even in Western Europe, even for hostile readers.”[15] Shaw likewise defended Stalin's mass executions, scolding, "we cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbor… humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators…"

One of Shaw's long-term obsessions was mass murder by means of poison gas. In a 1910 lecture before the Eugenics Education Society, he said:
"We should find ourselves committed to killing a great many people whom we now leave living… A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people's time to look after them."

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.

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