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http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=5294 <—fool lol
Remember, Congress was set up to represent the citizens of our country. Congress serves the citizenry. Let the citizens be heard…. Let arrogant, egotistical Congressional Representatives, Senators, and Presidents be turned out at the next election…..We did not create American Freedom to rob one citizen to benefit another. Simply put, an American Citizen is not required to support another citizen. This is the price of freedom, responsibility to oneself and family, which benefits all..
This is exactly what needs to happen instead of these manufactured town hall
campaign stops that just cost taxpayers a lot of money. What is the cost
to fly the obumble family and minions to these events? I say he should debate. I’d
like to seem him fumble through a debate with Dr. Betsy McCaughey. She has done
something obumble hasn’t, read the bill, four times.
hope and change is the new bait and switch
Republicans should run adds across the country showing Obama and all of his cronies talking about the ultimate goal of having a single payer government healthcare system. I have to give it to him, the guy is a darn good liar.
This president can’t tell the truth to save his life. He is all smoke and mirrors. I do not trust anything that comes out of his mouth. He makes no sense. He loves to hear himself talk. How can he make the answer to a simple question turn into a thesis with no meaning, contradict himself and gain applause? Anybody who believes this rhetoric is a useful idiot. He is silently stealing our freedom and all of you believers can’t tell the difference. Whether it is the staged idiot audience sitting behind him to make him look like he has supporters or it’s the intellectual lacking idiots in the White House Press room, it’s hard to understand why so many people can follow willingly without intelligence or common sense.
The next Congress, whomever they are or which party they are from, should be forced to vote themselves a 25% PAYCUT! Enough of these Imperial fools, both parties. They ignore us, the constituents, and jet around the world eating caviar and sipping champagne. Let’s knock ‘em back to earth.
obama won’t debate anyone without his teleprompter.
Can this windbag just answer a question? I hate these nitwit politicians that
skate around the question. Real simple dumbass, just answer the question. I could
not decipher an answer to this young man’s question. This video is 4.44 long. I
think obumble took a good 3.50 minutes blowing out air. These stupid ass town halls
are just like his press conferences. I was going insane listening to the ah’s and
the buts. Just answer the question.
Lmao.
College Republicans should put on mock debates w/ someone playing Pres. Obama’s role. Then stick videos of those debates up on youtube.
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He sucks without his teleprompter(s).
During his first town hall meeting there was the matter of the astroturfing that went on. There was one side that was bussed in from other states, paid for in the way of lunches, dinners, signs, t-shirts, etc. They were given time off or paid through their unions to come to the meetings. The supporters were given these benefits, while the protesters filled the parking lot with their cars, had to make their own signs and t-shirts, and made their own meals. If they were paid, they need to ask for more money, rides, or maybe they are just hording the money. The real Astroturfing that is going on in these meeting are by the supporters. Astroturf being a fake grassroots movement, these are the people that have large organizations backing them, helping them, and maybe even paying them to go to these meetings. Now don’t get me wrong there are equally strong feelings on both sides but when it comes to astroturfing, Obama supporters and unions take the cake.
I must be a glutton for punishment. I can’t believe that I sat and watched that Town Hall meeting for over an hour. I could not figure out what in the h-ll he was talking about. I have never heard this guy answer one question straight on. He just jabbers on and on about nothing!!! Then this brain dead audience claps and claps. I think I need an aspirin!!! (maybe a bottle of them)
Ah, Obama, the idiot kid president. The gift that keeps on giving. Chicago shutting down for at least a day. I wonder if Obama remembers Chicago. At least it has less thugs there now that they moved to DC. In any case, it is obvious that Obama is not only in over his head but that he has evil intentions and cant seem to help but lie every time he opens his snake oil salesman mouth. You cant get the guy to shut up, yet he cant manage to answer a straight question with a straight answer. He is infected, He is diseased. Dont let the idiot kid presidents germs infect you. We need a bath, a shower, a good scrubbing and a moment to come to our senses. Obama is simply unhealthy for America.
Obama is the disease. Impeachment is the cure.
Obama, our domestic enemy.
That’s probably the longest non-answer to a question I’ve ever heard.
ummmmmmm “I think” What kind of answer is that to the student’s question? Does President Obama know what’s in the bill? I watch his townhall meetings but only come away with a fuzzy in my tummy until I read the bill. Now I get sick with the thought that our leaders are in deep doodoo and HR3200 is just another trust fund to raid. History repeats itself and there’s nothing left in Social Security, Medicare/caid ~ Zip. No wonder they’re so desperate for this to pass. I’m pretty sure it will since they need a huge cash flow no matter what the people think. Not going to be a good year, is it?
***HOW OBAMA PLAYED THE RACE CARD TO PERFECTION TO COMMIT ELECTORAL FRAUD ON AMERICA***
I’ve asked ALL Senators if they had seen Obama’s Long Form Live Birth Certificate.
Their Answer….
A.- NO. I HAVEN’T SEEN IT. They Answered.
****NOBODY HAS SEEN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE*****NOBODY!!!
Why?
A.- NOBODY ASKED OBAMA FOR HIS ID DOCUMENTS.!!! For fear of being labeled Racist. Senators were cowed into agreeing Obama was US Born without proof of it.
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Rush:”I TOLD YOU OBAMA IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR WHO PLAYED THE RACE CARD TO PERFECTION AND STILL DOES ”
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1. If Obama was/is ineligible to be POTUS; why would the RNC, Fox News, Dick Cheney or ANY former Bush administration official not block him form taking office?
–Answer – Checking Obama’s eligibility was not the RNC’s, Dick Cheney’s, or former President Bush’s job.
The mainstream media was safely in Obama’s pocket and Fox News apparently didn’t want to be labeled as racist.
2. Why didn’t Dick Cheney refuse to certify the election results on the basis of Obama’s ineligibility?
—Answer – Cheney had no evidence to disqualify Obama because Obama with-held most all of his documentative evidence and it was not his job to vette Obama for his eligibility.
3. As POTUS he is able to access and view information of a Top Secret classification including highly sensitive National Security data. Why has the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS or any other intelligence group not “outed” Obama as ineligible?
—Answer – It was not any Government Officials duty to investigate Obama’s eligibility, so no one did.
This is what caused this PROBLEM.
WANT MORE?
The only thing missing is his top hat and cane! That was the biggest bull$hit tap dance I ever saw. Never did answer the question. But never mind details just remember we’re going to take care of you and your family.
One Big A$$ Mistake America
Unbelievable. This clown rambles on in search of a coherent thought and still doesn’t answer the question.
And to use that comparison between FedEx/UPS and the USPS, again, makes the argument against any type of government involvement in healthcare – alas, Teleprompter Jesus has ‘Government Nows Best’
so ingrained in his head that no matter how weak his argument is, it’s his way or the highway.
Heaven help us.
What?,no teleprompters?,FORGET IT!
Wow!
So much HATE on this board!
“the idiot kid President”?
REALLY???
And GW Bush was …. a genius???
ROFLMAO!!
“Pathological Liar”?
So what was GW Bush? You know .. the one who started that FAKE war in Iraq, and 5,000 Americans men & women are dead as a result.
“will never debate Zach”
Really????
Obama’s a constitutional lawyer.
WHO DID BW Bush ever debate???
WHO? WHO? WHO?
Teleprompters?
GW Bush couldn’t evern PRONOUCE n-u-c-l-e-a-r WITH a teleprompter!
Good Lord people.
Put your BLATANT racism in check.
Your HATRED is stifling!
Chutzpa?(sp)
The nerve of this Muslim to be using Jewish lingo,with the way He’s been treating Israel the last two months.
He has no shame.
KarenB
You are a mess.
Iraq… Bush did everything He could not to go into Iraq. Saddam refused to comply with weapons inspections teams, how many times?
Saddam had terrorist training camps(permitting terrorist training) set-up.
He continued firing rockets at our jets at The No Fly Zone.(post Kuwait)
Sounds like you’re one of those screwed-up anti-American liberals that wouldn’t mind Him still being in power with His torture and rape rooms, still digging more pits to bury His victims in mass graves.
People like you are nuts.
WTFU America! Great radio station I.D.
On air now: The TAX REVOLT Show
@ karenb
Don’t pull out the race card again. It’s over its credit limits!
you just a…
Can’t
Understand
Normal
Thinking
I read earlier that he works for a Republican politician in Colorado. He certainly has a right to ask a question of the President but he did have a smart mouth attitude and he was not respectful. I was put off by his arrogance. Let’s talk to him in twenty years after he’s lived a life, paid bills, suffered illness and loss. He might not be so lippy then.
Check out his twitter page. It pretty much says who he is.
Typical arrogant self centered Republican lackey who thinks he should be entitled to an Oxford style debate with the President of the United States.
Hey Zach: Work on getting your college degree and getting coffee for whatever Republican you intern for.
He wasn’t even paying enough attention at the debate he attended to know that Obama had already answered his talking point inspired question.
JUST ANSWER THE D*!#N QUESTION!!!!!!
Zach needs a dose of reality and to question the classic liberal economics model he is being fed in school. Public options are inherently less expensive than private simply because they don’t run for a profit. For example, California had efficient, low-cost public electricity until 2000 when it was privatized in the name of “lowering costs by increasing competition”. Once privatized, energy trading companies came in, restricted supply, and prices sky-rocketed. Deregulation and privatization didn’t lower prices, but it did encourage corruption and created blackouts that resulted in several unnecessary deaths.
The man lied about how he met his wife to satisfy a college graduation speech he was giving! GEEZ! He has no credibility whatsoever.
Fancier footwork than Fred Astaire. Never seen anything like it. His answers make absolutely no sense and people still clap. Has he EVER been held responsible for his retorical non-answers to questions? I THINK he’s always gotten a “skate” his entire life. At some point, it will bite him. Just like the “stupidly” comment.
Oh yeah. I meant “rhetorical” in my last post. And he needs an ear wig so someone can feed him his answers ‘cuz he has none of his own.
Does Obama listen to himself? BCBS is already a “non-profit”, there or 50+ BCBS’s across the country. Why in the hell do we need a government sponsered non-profit? Is he saying BCBS is doing a poor job? Not according to Consumer Reports. BCBS’s across the country have consistantley rated as the top plans in almost all catagories.
LOL! Obama is such a liar. We are going to suddenly insure a bunch of uninsured people, largely illegals, and it won’t cost the tax payers. Riiiiiiiight.
“Don’t have to pay local property taxes”? Where is this guy getting this information?
“Not subject to local regulations”? Since when? The state government would have the federal government in federal court in 15 minutes if this were the case.
“I don’t want generalities or philosophical arguments.” Can you say douche?
Obama is simply terrible. The problem is that Obama has taken indefensible positions, is asked to defend them with this question, but can’t show his hand on what he is really going to do if he is able to get is “public option”.
The question was: how can private insurance companies who have to adhere to government regulation AND make a profit compete with a subsidized government option?
The answer is – it can’t and we expect the proivate insurance companies to go out of business so that we end up with a single payer system.
Obama can’t say that, so he tap dances around the issue just saying s-h-i-t.
Societal
Healthcare will
Increase
Taxes
He’s charming. Didn’t let the little douche get under his skin. If you did hear the answer you’re an idiot. Please remember this law is still being drafted.
He actually didn’t answer the question. I am still confused…. all those words…but no answer.
Well I guess that’s he won the elections.
A lot of people were lead to believe…they weren’t thinking hard enough that voting an inexperienced guy can actually run a country. Wow.
Since the bill is still in draft he said they will have to find ways to run a self-sustaining health care option. He also said if the tax payers have to keep funding it it wouldn’t achieve the goals we set out. He said the health care option would get their money from market sources not the Federal Reserve which means they won’t be getting super cheap money which means they could lower their prices even further. Other methods of creating a level playing field will have to be explored.
Are prices going to get driven down? Of course. That only means the heath insurance companies will make less money they aren’t going to die. You’re worried about insurance companies remaining billionaires but it’s o.k. for a teacher to make $30,000 a year.
America…someone sent this to me today…and I thought I’d share it with you!
Washington…do not “underestimate” the determination of the American people to remain free with all our freedoms and liberties in tact.
Never give in and never give up…there is too much at stake for not only ourselves but for the future of our children and their children yet unborn!
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Thanks graduate student for asking the question that I would have asked if I was at the meeting. The administration is blatantly disregarding statistics and economics to push this reform bill. We need health care reform, but not by the government. Insurance companies and pharmaceuticals you have to be two of the driving forces behind this change. If you private industry continue to be complacent about not handling this agenda, the next time the people will force your hand. Power to the People.
No wonder Obama’s against waterboarding — it’s probably the only way to get him to admit that he has no answers to legitimate questions about his health care scheme. “I think we can do it” is all he can come up with to describe how he will create his fantasy “public option” that is non-profit, competitive, and receives no government subsidies. He then hedges his failure to answer the question by stating well, the public option’s not that important, anyway — it’s just a small piece in the big plan. Great, so the big plan is orders of magnitude worse than his non-answer to a simple question suggests. Keep talking, Obama — people are staring to listen.
Obama says, “AAAAHHH, duhhhhhh, I am a Democrat. I don’t debate, I mandate.”
If I hear one more moocher wanting “free” health care, I swear I will….
TO THE LAZY UN-AMERICAN LIBERAL MOOCHERS: Why do you need health care? You and your ilk say we are going to die anyway by the effects of global warming.
Barry Bonds: We know who is writing the laws. We know who they are and what they represent, we also know they must disguise their true intentions, because despite what you would like to believe, most people don’t want to live under tyranny. Maybe you’ll get lucky and become the new minister of information and you’ll be able to silence all your ignorant opponents. Until then good luck with your new census job. Unlike the real Barry Bonds, you don’t go yard very often.
Obama didn’t even answer the question, did he?
Thanks for the question, Zach.
Now- sit back down while I stammer and stutter in circles for 5 minutes, say a lot of words that mean nothing, and completely ignore your question. Maybe I’ll make a cell call or two…
Oh, and by the way, both PRIVATE businesses I mention, are doing great despite strict restrictions on what they can do, while the GOVERNMENT RUN Postal Service is doing terrible, despite having a federally mandated monopoly on 1st class mail.
So trust me Zach, TRUST ME!
I am the Obama!
I can make health care run as good as the Post Office, the DMV and Social Security!
Great job, Zach!
On 9/15, you perplexed the President with your question on the “public-option”, and the next day 9/16, the “public-option” looks like it will be scrapped.
Now, if only Obama would accept your challenge on the rest of Obamacare…
“Barry Bonds: We know who is writing the laws” – NO WE DON’T The ELECTED Representatives do not write the bills. STAFF write the bills.
True Healthcare Reform:
A) Tort Reform: Cap litigation settlements, stop frivolous law suits
B) Insurance Companies: Reasonable malpractice fees
C) Credits to Medical Students-who won’t have to work for the government for 10 years after graduation.
The Democrats voted the Medicare funds from the secure account into the General Fund then spent it. For those of us who have paid into the Medicare all of our working lives are now going to experiance less medical coverage than ever.
he never did answer the question. He talks a lot of BS and loves to hear himself talking that he forgets the question.
He simply refuses to answer a question simply and correctly!
I think the American People are waking up to the shear horror this man has planned for this country and are now starting to fight back. He and his thugs do not represent what America is. He said we were not a Christian nation. Oh really, and who’s benefit did you say that for obie, your muslim family and friends?
I’m glad it only took 7 months of his BS to shine thru, now we can fight back for the next 3 years, voting every piece of trash in the white house out!
“Gee Whiz August 16th, 2009 – 5:19 pm
“Barry Bonds: We know who is writing the laws” – NO WE DON’T The ELECTED Representatives do not write the bills. STAFF write the bills.
True Healthcare Reform:
A) Tort Reform: Cap litigation settlements, stop frivolous law suits
B) Insurance Companies: Reasonable malpractice fees
C) Credits to Medical Students-who won’t have to work for the government for 10 years after graduation.
The Democrats voted the Medicare funds from the secure account into the General Fund then spent it. For those of us who have paid into the Medicare all of our working lives are now going to experiance less medical coverage than ever.”
Not even close to what the problem is…. Clearly, you just regurgitate what your told.
A) Less than 1% of the problem
B) Less than 1% of the problem
C) Not even clear to what the hell your talking about.
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=ten_reasons_why_american_health_care_is_so_bad
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32029403/ns/health-health_care/
http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/health_care_costs.html
• Malpractice is the culprit Doctors say their worries about lawsuits drive them to order costly tests and procedures that their patients do not actually need. Malpractice reform will help save money, but not as much as some people believe. **** The Congressional Budget Office estimates that while tort reforms could lower malpractice-insurance premiums for physicians by as much as 25 to 30 percent, the overall savings to our health care system would be a minuscule one-half percent.****
The largest problem is the administrative costs….. The admin cost of Medicare/Medicade is 4-5 cents on the dollar, while Insurance companies are 20-25 Cents.
The second largest issue is the fact that people don’t have “health care”, and no going to any Emergency room is not “Health Care”. It is EMERGENCY CARE! Health care is being able to go do a doctor and get an issue looked at before it becomes critical that you have to go to an Emergency Room.
Canada’s top doctor: Health care system ‘imploding’…
Overhauling health-care system tops agenda at annual meeting of Canada’s doctors
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jbjzPEY0Y3bvRD335rGu_Z3KXoQw
SASKATOON — The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says this country’s health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.
Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country – who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting – recognize that changes must be made.
“We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize,” Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.
“We know that there must be change,” she said. “We’re all running flat out, we’re all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands.”
The pitch for change at the conference is to start with a presentation from Dr. Robert Ouellet, the current president of the CMA, who has said there’s a critical need to make Canada’s health-care system patient-centred. He will present details from his fact-finding trip to Europe in January, where he met with health groups in England, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands and France.
His thoughts on the issue are already clear. Ouellet has been saying since his return that “a health-care revolution has passed us by,” that it’s possible to make wait lists disappear while maintaining universal coverage and “that competition should be welcomed, not feared.”
In other words, Ouellet believes there could be a role for private health-care delivery within the public system.
He has also said the Canadian system could be restructured to focus on patients if hospitals and other health-care institutions received funding based on the patients they treat, instead of an annual, lump-sum budget. This “activity-based funding” would be an incentive to provide more efficient care, he has said.
Because the Insurance companies care for you soooo much…
BTW…… The death panels have been year for over 20 years, where have all you been during that time?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/story?id=8337500&page=1
The insurance companies already make the determination of whether or not your gonna get coverage for a particular item. They determine if they are going to pay for an item you need, and how much of it you will get.
So why have you not been up in arms before now??? Why only now are you raising cane? When all along this has been going on…. Because you don’t really care about any of this, it’s just about apposing to make a scene and to cut off your nose to spite your face.
Per the president himself: UPS and FEDEX are better run than USPS, the government run mail delivery system. So let’s embrace this new government run, single payer system… Maybe he should have a chest mounted prompter…
Hey you stupid libs, get the change you wanted?
Didn’t the Messiah look kind of wee weed up when the kid stood up to him?
Bringing up the US Post Office was the kind of mistake only an arrogant like Obama could make. Doesn’t he recognize that most Americans – well, Conservative Americans – DO NOT WANT Govt. health care for precisely the same reasons we use UPS and Fed Ex and NOT the US Post office?! The US Postal Service cannot even figure out how to design decent stamps for heaven’s sake. Public schools, for the most part, cannot manage to produce well educated students – and now we are supposed to turn our health care over to the people who cannot functionally and cost effectively maintain our public roads and bridges? I don’t think so.
We need LESS insurance (both private and govt. programs like Medi’cade/care) not more. Insurance has driven the cost of medical care up. Less insurance = bringing costs down. How to start a revolution? We need to collectively burn our insurance policies.
Why does Barry continually use the word "we"??
He's got five million dollars in the bank from a book he wrote……
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Zach for prez!
ImBrokeOhBummer will never debate Zach, even if he gets to use the help of President Teleprompter.