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Now comes the whining…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RHSmRRer1w
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Hahahhahahahahhaahaa!!!
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Im REALLY sick of r this and d that bs.
Im sure everyone whos behind the tea movement agrees.
What this endorsement by the loser wanna-be Republican of the Democrat aptly demonstrates is that many individuals are not really believers in the party, but are merely power hungry slobs who don’t like losing. She now needs to be ostracized, but I bet the Dems don’t want her either.
Well I have to admit…
The Democrats and Republicans here have found a very new “love” for each other!!! Your ‘Conservative Party’ has enraged both of our “machines” as a common enemy to our America!!! Together now, us Democrats and Republicans will fry you Beck/Limbaugh/Palin/Birther freaks!!!! :D
It is plan “B” here now. But that works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahhahahhaahhahahhahaaaaa!!!
The republican will win in 2010 with 60% of the vote. This was a good start.
1. She QUIT because she saw the handwriting on the wall (a bit late) and nobody was providing $$$ for her.
2. Republicans must’ve been CRAZY to select her in the first place.
3. She is a typical vindictive DEMO-WHINER who tries to “get even” when she doesn’t get her own way.
4. Hoffman had all the charisma and enthusiasm of an anemic Barney Fife (Don Knotts), and yet LOOK HOW CLOSE HE CAME TO WINNING!! LOL! :)
Today was a GOOD day for AMERICA!
Unfortanely, third party candidates, while a good idea, simply takes away votes from one of the major parties. In this case Republican. She was still on the ballot. Conservative votes ended up split and POOF! Democrat wins!
EVERYBODY ELSE LOSES. Thats the system we have…..
This woman, Scozzafava, has ruined an exciting election in order to protect abortion. period. A person who claims to be one thing, demonstrates she’s the opposing thing, then cries, drops out, and throws her support behind the opposition. How can anyone support a dishonest, spineless, centrist-moderate, particularly one who is liked by Obama? In any event, even a loss for Hoffman sends a clear and resounding message not only to the GOP, but also to the corrupt Obamanation due to the extreme closeness of the race. If not for Scozzafava’s little set up, Hoffman would be the clear winner. Something stinks to high heaven.
Battles are lost all the time, its the war that matters most.Keep fighting conservatives.
We was robbed!
One more week of campaigning and we’d have won, so nice try Hoffman. Just in the name of diversity we need more conservatives.
Dede was the first Don’t-Ask-Don’t-Tell Republican I’ve ever seen. We didn’t ask if she was really a democrat, and she didn’t tell us.
Good try Hoffman. Glad you took the red pill, welcome to the Matrix.
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i watched the whole show and Ben Stein owned Ventura especially after he said the republican is moving far right.
As far as NY 23 is concerned the GOP will be fine if they have a thorough primary instead of the process that coughed up Scozzafava.
Exactly. Barney Fife Hoffman came so close…with the “republican” actively
campaining for the demo liberal.
We may lose a few of these battles, but at least we won’t have RINOs in congress that
dilute and distort the conservative message as well as our votes in the house.
Give the voters a clear choice, stick to principles, and we will win the war.
After all, what good is winning the war, if, in the end, we’ve elected another bunch
of RINOs that will not support a conservative agenda and makes the repubs an echo
rather than a choice?
Wake up RNC, ride the wave instead of opposing it.
Conservatives, not one more DIME to the RNC. Directly contribute to the most
conservative candidate. Make the RNC acknowledge their power base, they are too
elitist to come to this conclusion on their own.
We will take back our country in 2010. Fear us, you looters and moochers.
Hoffman was virtually unheard of a month ago. I believe he did well and indicates that the GOP can be very successful if they return to their core principles.
Dump Odumbo.
But let me hasten to add, Hoffman is to be commended for his civic conservative
zeal and willingness to take on the establishment RNC RINOs.
We need many more citizen conservatives to step up to the plate as
Hoffman did, so we also do not elect more typical politicians who refuse to stand on
principle once elected.
We also need to invade our state republican organizations, so they can’t pull
another bone headed move like NY 23.
I agree and disagree, loyalty went away this voting period in NY23, either way. That is because we didn’t want a liberal republican who would be a democrat like Specter. Scozza was disloyal because she didn’t want a Conservative Republican. But this would have been solved from the get go if the Republican Board didn’t try to select a liberal as a Republican. Hoffman was the better man and Scozza was a traitor to her party like we all knew she would have been in the House.
SOURCE: http://www.americanparchment.com
It’s Official. The Majority of the Citizens of New York want to be living in Cuba under U.N. Sanctions being led by a Marxist Dictator being controlled by George Soros and the World Bank. Good Going New York. At Least Virginia and New Jersey showed Common Sense.
The RNC did not abandon Scuzzy-fur-ball. The did make the error in supporting her.
She was so far left, she couldn’t raise money and suspended the race on her own. Hoffman ran a very
clean race and it was great to see a Mr. Smith goes to Washington type story unfold in such
dire times for this country. Having someone like Scuzzy-fur-ball removed from politics is the best that came out of this race.
Several hundred new bureaucracies and millions of unproductive minority administrators and regulators killing white capitalist America like Public TV-MaO’Bama propoganda. End Govt TV. It’s absolutley amazing that the power of the US now protects and encourages this self-destroying Maoist Coup of America? Centered and organized right in the Whitehouse. A Maoist Coup in the Whitehouse and Congress. FBI? CIA? Secret Service? Park Police? ATF-WACO? DEA? Anybody left? Didn’t we used to fight Communists so they wouldn’t take over our govt., media, and schools? Yes? So, anyone left? HouseCall Enema at Valley Forge .hellooo. anyone home? Don’t we still have tens of thousands of troops awaiting orders. helloooo is anything more important than KILLING AMERICA? See you BraveFarts at Valley Forge. y’all come. the Maoists are counting on you fools rolling back over and going back to bed.
Go ben !!! An we cannot go third party !!!
Hoffman would have won if he fully embraced the northern NY birthers, and got out and personally did more tea-bagging.
A lot of help quitter Palin turned out to be.
There is difference between a Republican and a right wing whack job.
Bob McDonnell and Chris Christie ran moderate centrist campaigns.Not the kind of Republicans you whack jobs like.
Your whack job conservative candidate had the enthusiastic backing of national conservative (other far right whack jobs) leaders and was well-financed by them.
The Democrat won because Madam demagogue Palin and Boss Limbaugh injected
themselves into the mix,along with Glenn Beck.
Both Bob McDonnell in Virginia and Chris Christie in New Jersey politely declined or ignored Palin’s offer of her help.
The Republican Party faces continued upheaval as long as the far right continues to try to hijack the party.
This Obama is a this and that and he was born here and there wont win you elections.
Ben Stein’s logic is so tortured that he embarrasses himself and the whole of tea-bagging la-la-land.
Look at the video and see the knuckles popping out of his reason challenged cro-magnum forehead.
It really is pitiful.
I’ll be back after I have a good cry.
SCREW the leftists and their spin. Hoffman lost but we stilL WON in VA, NJ, and NY. We OUTED a RINO. We ID’d MORE RINOs. And 2010 is right around the corner.
http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/04/cut_them_no_slack!.thtml
The Anti Liberal Zone
Woohoo! Gotta love the fact that the GOP can’t even get out of their own way these days… hahahahaha!
Conservative Party 2010, 2012!
What, it took Hoffman 3 weeks to almost split the vote?
Great effort, we’ll see you in 1 year.
As the the (D) and(R) continue to figure out what to do, I’ll enjoy watching the conservatives tear them in half.
Good for you, Ben Stein! But why are you trying to be logical with Larry King? All King can see is that the Conservative Republicans were disloyal to Scuzzafava. Why waste your breath on CNN? By the way, where is the story on CNN.com about Abbey Johnston stepping down as director of Bryan, Texas, Planned Parenthood because she viewed an ultrasound of an abortion taking place? I’d call that a news story. CNN? Where are you?
Conservative Bob McDonnell runs as a moderate and wins. Chris Christie runs against a horribly inept and corrupt for Goldman Sachs exec (everyone’s favorite!) and wins. But very little is said of the most indicative race of the state of national politics in that which was held in NY 23rd. If the teabagging cons can’t win in a GOP stronghold in an off election year, what hope could they POSSIBLY have for the midterms?
I hope the teabaggers keep the heat on the GOP establishment. This time next year we could be seeing an epic GOP meltdown.
GOP = Going Out of Politics
The Conservative candidate nearly won despite the traitor Republican! Go Conservative Party!
DeDe the ugliest baby killer I have ever seen wow! kids should run screaming when they see her and who was the guy who picked her? drag this pos out into the day light I want to see him explain himself
So the 3 states the Demwits and Republicans were watching closely, with the Republicans winning 2 out of the 3…
Virginia…….Republican victory
New Jersey…..Republican victory
New York-23….Dimwit victory
2 out of 3? That’s 66.66666%!!! That’s a clear OVERWHELMING MANDATE?
Obviously better than the “mini-mandate” Obama was said to have with slightly over half in the ‘08 election.
Republicans need to figure out that we conservatives don’t want RINOS and aren’t going to put up with them anymore. But this woman wasn’t even a RINO… she was a Democrat in Republican clothing. She was as liberal as it gets, yet the GPO backed her. GOP, get a clue! The jig is up. We’re sick of you. Make way for true conservatives.
Larry King, Barbara Walters – what is the difference. A couple of Progressive vampires that no one will miss when they are no longer living.
Dont they see the under-tow in the ocean?
This has nothing to do with “disloyalty” Ben. If the voters in District 23 wanted your guy, then they would have voted for him and he would have won. They didn’t. Right wingers have been saying all for some time that there isn’t any difference between Deirdre Scozzafava and Bill Owens. So why didn’t Hoffman win? What this shows beyond any doubt is that the country will go to the right of center but not all the way to the right. More moderate Republicans won everywhere else but the voters in a district that is 94% white and was replacing a Republican (John M. McHugh, who is now Sec. of the Army) would not vote for this conservative “independent” because the candidate was too conservative. Limbaugh, Hannity, and that little gnome, Mark Levin, all lobbied heavily for this guy. Didn’t old Rushbo call this race a “turning point”? Well…the results are in Rush and they are unambiguous. The nation may not want to go far left and is having some second thoughts about present policy but they also don’t want to “turn” too far to the right either. If you can’t win in a place like District 23 in New York how do you expect to do well anywhere else? The leadership of the GOP should take note and inform the Tea Baggers and the rest of the right wing loonies that they are welcome in the GOP but the GOP will not throw out the moderates like McCain to keep you. You may think that the mainstrream Republicans can’t win without you, but you certainly can’t win without them. If you want to have a long stretch of Democratic and liberal leadership, then keep splitting the party. I submit to you that a moderate Republican (RHINO to you fools) is better than a liberal Democrat.
Now take that incredibly ignorant, self-serving, and narcissistic woman, Joe the Dumber, right wing talk radio, and crawl back into your hole!
Scozoscuttle-butt is exactly what is wrong with the Republican Party and the message was sent that No More Left leaning Republicans will be tolerated! She was a traitor and a fat-wolf in very big sheep’s clothing. If she had won it would have been a democrat victory because she would have voted with the Dems. I think we have enough left leaning Repubs in Snowe, McCain, Graham and a few others, that need to be unemployed by the way. 2 out of 3 is a good start and as I said the message has been sent on 2 fronts. One, that we will not tolerate anymore republican impostors, two, democrats you will be over-thrown in 2010 and certainly in 2012! We have only just begun to Fight! “We The People” will take back our Country from the tyrannical radicals in the White House!
Airwick
Regarding your point that conservatives were saing “saying all for some time that there isn’t any difference between Deirdre Scozzafava and Bill Owens” NOT TRUE we were saying Owens was a better choice so third partying this race and taking a chance on spliting the vote was designed to insure Dede did not win so you see we were RIGHT and WE WON. As to your other point, I got bored and stopped reading.
Airwick: “What this shows beyond any doubt is that the country will go to the right of center but not all the way to the right. More moderate Republicans won everywhere else but the voters in a district that is 94% white and was replacing a Republican (John M. McHugh, who is now Sec. of the Army) would not vote for this conservative “independent” because the candidate was too conservative.”
Uhhhh, nice try at spin Airwick. Hoffman was an unknown a month ago. Clearly Scuzzmuff was a plant. When Obungle strategically moved McHugh by giving him the Sec.Army job, he was doing so to gain another seat. Putting Scuzzmuff (who votes Democrat more than blue blood Dems do) into the mix ensured the seat going to a Democrat (even though Scuzzmuff had the “R” next to her name).
In a little over a month Hoffman almost turned it around, with the DNC machine working against him….the same machine that was unable to keep Corzine in his governor’s seat.
For someone like Hoffman to come out of nowhere and place as well as he did, is no small thing. A little more time, and a little more spotlight upon him, and Hoffman would be in a different place right now. Imagine if he’d had two months to do it, instead of one?
Nope, you libiots spin all you want, but you only show your concern. There’s a wave coming, and all you want to talk about is the sand on the beach, pretending there is no wave. Keep deluding yourself. I’m sure it will help you swim when the wave hits! NOT!
@Airwick,
Outstanding post my friend! You couldn’t have stated the facts any more clear. Too bad the nutjobs on this site will never heed the warning, and continue their downward spiral.
Never the less, a great informative and intellectual post. A VERY rare thing on this site for sure.
Great job!
Huh? = Airwick
Like a dog licking itself.
Oops, maybe I should start worrying:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elect-results/cd10-alameda-results.htm
Californians are starting to wake up.
“Please folks, take another toke and go back to watching Keith and Rachael. Don’t worry your little minds with all of this political stuff. Let me take care of that.”
Huh is another one deluding himself. “Downward spiral”??? LOL…LOL
Your side got pasted last night. Look at what happened in PA too! You don’t read it anywhere, but Dems got trounced there too.
Downward spiral indeed. And a cooling planet is evidence of global warming too!
You libs are pure idiots!
Va-Republican
NJ-Republican (a shocker)
NY-23-Dems
2 out of 3. I’ll take it.
Thirty days ago Doug Hoffman was an unknown in the world of politics (nobody had heard of him) yet on election day he garnered 46% of the vote in Upstate New York’s 23rd district, losing by a mere 3% to Bill Owens the Democrat. I wish Doug Hoffman had won but almost ANYBODY would have been better than if Dede Scozzafava had won as a Republican. She is absolutely NOT a Republican as seen by her “turncoat” support of Democrat Bill Owens instead of endorsing Doug Hoffman who is Republican but had to run as an Independent because he wasn’t nominated by the Republican committee to be on the Republican ticket, who nominated RINO (turncoat) Dede Scozzafava instead.
I actually see this as a win win for the conservative movement really. First and foremost Dede Scozzafava was NOT elected, and as a side, conservative Doug Hoffman received quite a bounty in campaign contributions in the short time he ran as an Independent. It also gave him a great amount of public exposure which will do him well in the 2010 election cycle if he chooses to run again at that time. And Upstate New York’s 23rd district could have done much worse than electing Bill Owens who is actually a “conservative” Democrat, at least by New York standards. He opposes same-sex marriage and opposes a public option in health care. And since this election was a ’special’ election it is my understanding that the election in 2010 will be the harbinger in securing back a “true” Republican or conservative Independent to the seat, such as a Doug Hoffman, etc. But even if a Republican or conservative Independent doesn’t take the seat back in 2010 it may well be that Bill Owens will indeed serve the people of Upstate New York’s 23rd district well during his possibly short tenure as a Representative.
What is very intriguing to me is how Newt Gingrich couldn’t “see” through the charade of RINO Dede Scozzafava from the get go. Newt based his endorsement of Dede Scozzafava on what the Republican committee in New York did in declaring her the candidate. In my opinion Newt based his endorsement on Dede Scozzafava’s “words” alone and not on her “actions” and record as a Republican, which in truth betrayed her words as we now have found out. Newt Gingrich should publicly apologize to the Republican Party on the whole for his misdirected and maligned endorsement of “turncoat” Dede Scozzafava. Although, even if he has the fortitude to indeed apologize to the Republican Party for his maligned deed it has put the proverbial “stake” into the heart of any attempt by him to gain public office again under the conservative Republican name in my opinion. He might as well hang up his hat and retire from politics altogether because if he continues on this reckless course of endorsing liberal politicians he will undoubtedly do his own conservative Party base more actual harm than good in the long run, and thus insuring his legacy of causing division rather than of uniting the Republican Party, to which he belongs as a ’supposedly’ conservative Party member.
SO… if this race was supposed to be some sort of referrendum, does that mean that people can now see Sarah Palin for what she is? A lunatic crackpot loser? Her candidate lost…
THIS NOT A GREAT LOSS! We exposed her! We made the Republicans leaders sit-up and listen!
This is a win.
She can’t pull a Specter!
Yes, Puck 30 that is the point the leftist loons here are loath to admit, LOL.
“Va-Republican
NJ-Republican (a shocker)
NY-23-Dems
2 out of 3. I’ll take it.”
66% success. Cry yourself to sleep, dimocRATS. It’s going to happen in 2010 as well. It doesn’t have to be 100% to be a success.
ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, CNN just wait for the 2010 results the tide has turned. G-D BLESS AMERICA !
Sarah Palin, is the sharpest knife in the Conservative drawer. She saw what this race could mean and wanted to send a message that choosing a Democrat in disguise was not the way for our party to go. I actually think, if the Republican Party doesn’t shape up and get rid of their over the top, left leaning people, She just might run as a conservative. It is the principals and not the party that matters to most of us. Sarah knows that.
As a Christian, this woman and her views just made me sick. I think we may need to do some changes at the top of our Party if it is to change back to the principals we use to stand for. Moderate R doesn’t mean someone who embraces abortion and Gay rights. Those two issues are very important for most conservatives and when we compromise on either of these issues and accept people like this woman into our party as a leader, we are going down a very slippery slope.
I used to enjoy a cup of tea, now and then. However, I can’t now, because it just reminds me of these darn TEABAGGERS!
They have NO RESPECT! Look – http://www.DumpChrisDodd.com
I’m sorry but I can’t spin this. This is CRAP. She should have stayed loyal to her party but she was a TRAITOR. I can’t stop crying because I think about all the patriots who were manipulated by the Dems in this race. Call me a baby but I care about are country.
So far, Sarah has 2,400+ new supporters on her facebook this morning— just in the last 24 hrs. She’s not going anywhere but UP, UP, UP!!!!!
Go Palin 2012!
New Jersey, and Virgina are just the begining. Hoffman did very well considering all that was stacked against him. In Houston a conservative candidate lost by a very small margin in a crowded field. He had absolutely NO money, ran vertically a zero budget campaign and was out spent by millions of dollars- yet he still came within a few points of the leaders. The tide is turning no matter how hard the progressives try to spin it.
MiPain,
I must admit that that was a good one! Talk about “spin”! I wasn’t aware that conservatives wanted Bill Owens to win; I thought that old Rushbo and his cadre of numbskulls wanted Hoffman, the Conservative.
My bad.
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Wow, K, 2400? Now you may have something if she could just add about four zeros to that number. She has nowhere else to go but up.
Jana,
Hoffman did very well considering all that was stacked against him? Huh? He had all the Conservative heavies supporting him, telling everyone that this was a “turning point” where Republicans will see that conservatives can win without them. They even picked an area that is conservative and has a large base from which to draw. Very few people would have even noticed this election except that right wing talk radio kept trumpeting it as a race to watch. Well…we watched it and a liberal won over your conservative. There are no pyrrhic victories here, folks; you win or you lose.
You lost!
From Airwick:
—-”Wow, K, 2400? Now you may have something if she could just add about four zeros to that number. She has nowhere else to go but up.”—–
Sarah makes one statement on her facebook endorsing Hoffman, and within ONE DAY his campaign raises $115,000…coincidence? I think NOT!
You can try to behave unimpressed, but it’s just not working for you, is it?
Dear Airwick, et al:
I do believe the following bears repeating: (I posted this on another thread.)
Even with McCain’s team not backing her, plus MANY Republicans sitting out the vote (against McCain), and still others casting a ballot for a Democrat to make a statement, 2008 election results ended up with a mere 7 point spread. That’s hardly a mandate for Obozo.
Sarah’s got what it takes to win in 2012. The Dems know that.
PALIN 2012!
K,
It did him a lot of good, didn’t it? Where was the vote?
Sorry, I’m still not impressed with Sarah. If you build your party around this woman you will lose.
Airwick—-
I’m not trying to have you be impressed by Sarah Palin. She can do that all on her own, thank you very much. I’m simply stating strong facts about a strong leader.
So I suppose the liberals are better off in being led by Obozo, as in, his influence in New Jersey & Virginia? Which added up to, oh wait…that’s right, nil, nada, zilch, ZERO!
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Go get em Ben!!!