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That’s odd, I’m pretty sure it’s the Democrats who have been crapping all over the Constitution, trying to rham through healthcare with “reconciliation” and the “slaughter” option, as well as legislating from the bench.

If that’s the case, Let Americans have an up or down vote right now,to push these morons out of Power!

I agree.

It shouldn’t really matter how the Congress gets healthcare passed.

What matters is that it get done and get done now.

Stop talking about it and pass it.

What hubris!

These Saul Alinsky elitists are certainly disconnected from the people.

A sense of urgency for who? lololol

Waterloo that’s who!

YES WE DO MORON. YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF IN A JAIL CELL SOON!

No, we want a down vote. Is anyone listening. Obviously like he says, we are stupid and they need to Ram this through.

The entire Obama team is evil from the top down.
Remove this scum before it is too late.

That’s what that idiot thinks..more and more Americans are realizing how important that the Constitution and the protections our Founding Fathers put in place need to be upheld..LIVE FREE OR PERISH!

Anexio:

You might think your messiah Obama and his goon squad doing things that will affect every American forever Unconstitutionally is okay but true Americans give a shiite big time.

What a sad excuse for an American you are.

You are an American right?

And politicians don’t know or care much about the US Constitution.
In fact Obama despises it and ignores it, along with his fellow travelers.

Soon the “U” in USA will stand for “Usurped” if O gets his way.
Progressives, who don’t believe in morality or ideas, only look at movement – the so-called “progress” which really leads to nowhere and death.
They are only interested in “Process” not law and certainly not the Constitution.
Between Alinsky, Cloward and Piven, and O’s bomb tossing buddies, we are in for a very rough ride.
Look to what’s happening in Greece. We are getting close.

I believe there are thousands more americans who know and care about pariamentary procedures than there were a few months ago.

“The one thing I am sure of is that the American people don’t know or care much about the sequencing of parliamentary procedures.” Spoken like a true condescending elitist pig.

Hey Hitler look alike, the procedure is this per Article 1, Section 7 of our great United States Constitution: 1.) The House must pass the EXACT bill the Senate passed. 2.) A Bill cannot pass Congress without voting on it. Hitler knows this Bill is dead. Nice try AxelRUDE, you idiot! Don’t try to pass this Bill by using the Slaughter rule. Don’t even try because I’m afraid you will have another Honduras on your hands.

Spoken like a true Chicago thug! We peons are just suppose to let these crooks RULE us because we’re so stupid we can’t understand the process! They’ll create and use any underhanded trick they can to get what they want!!!

They trouble they’re having is now they’re not just dealing with Democrats who’ll toe the line to get whatever handout they can! This administration forgets they’re dealing with Republicans and Independents who value their FREEDOM and won’t give it up for a welfare check!!

Hey you communist Axelrod! It’s called CONGRESS. I know you want us to be like Europe, but we don’t call it a parliament here.

“I’m a Democrat communist Jew. Although I have never served in the military [that's for others], I always have had a high paying “gubment” job and I know best” [Axelrod]

Pure BS! What’s missing? Where’s Rahm? Who is sitting on his tutu? And, why do we allow the white house to go wall-to-wall Joe Izusu?

You think the pig-lousy has votes? If she had them they’d be posted on the wall, already. That there’s a scheme to take apart our Constitution? Yup. But we won’t see the information that #44’s real name is Barry Soetoro. And, he forgot to be sworn in, accordingly.

Let’s say this information flies after the November’s election. And, after there’s a big political turnover. Which I won’t predict. But the least that would be needed would be for Barry Soetoro to ask nicely for Chief Justice Roberts’ return to re-administer the oath of office. Would he? Could he? Would it count? Could the house, at least, be in pig-lousy’s hands? Or does the gavel move to the other side?

It will get more interesting. Believe it. Or not.

American people don’t know or care much about David Axelrod; but they will, if this D-bag keeps bloviating like this.

His Israeli buddies already have their contracts lined up.

The Arrogance is not surprising. This is one of the Communist puppet masters.

We do care about procedure – otherwise we would not vote.

Why do you think they need a good speaker like Mau-Bama. Deception is the key for their control.

The only good communist is a dead communist.

This guy looks like a cockroach.

Axlerod YES WE DO AND WE DO CARE AND YOU BETTER FOLLOW THE RULES .OR WE THE PEOPLE WILL PUNISH YOUR PARTY IN NOVEMBER . WE DO NOT WANT THIS BILL .

Hmmm … He calls it “parliamentary procedure” – We call it the Constitution. Keep dumping on it A-holerod. You wont beleive the retalitation.

Arrogance is the downfall of every leader – tyrannical and otherwise.

OMG, Axelrod was allowed to spew his lies and no follow-up questions challenging them?

i wish with much wishing these people will discontinue talking down to us as if we
are mindless underlings. these people just seem to shut the door at any attempt of respecting them.

arrogant fat bastard……….take a walk through middle America, and you will find out what we think of you and your puppets…….you’ve heard of a blanket party, right ?? a good louiville slugger will wake your ass up

Does anyone know “Roberts Rules of Order”? “Parlimentary rules” are not actually the rules that govern a parlimentary form of government. Remember civics class, ninth grade anyone?

Mr. Axelrod, how about we let the Supreme Court decide? Because I don’t think you know many “American People” or you wouldn’t make this statement.

The rate increases were manufactured by the “Health Care” threat of intrusion by government meddling!!! They caused the very thing they now blame on the industry!! Treason trials should begin right after the vote against Constitutional law!!! The government doesn’t own your body until after the vote, after that, all decisions concerning the pursuit of Life, Liberty, Property and Happiness will be decided by them (Someone other than yourself)!!

That’s a bunch of crap!! All this corrupt administration can come up with! Now we know for sure they’re so “open minded” their brains have fallen out! See your shrink, you fool! You’re obviously quite deluded!!

David Assholerod is probably right, but the American people can smell a load of progressive liberal crap 1000 miles away. The worst kind of lie is the one you tell yourself. Democrats think they can drop their pile of crap on the faces of the electorate and come out ok in the end. The worst kind of lie… you know.

Where’s Rahm? Isn’t it strange that Axelrod ‘won’ whatever behind the scenes fights had been going on in the Oval Office?

And, if there are fights, now, with Axelrod and Joe Izusu Gibbs coming out as the “winnahs” … what does that mean in terms of ‘clout?’ These two grubbing idiots have clout with congress critters? Since when?

Democrats don’t care about the Constitution.

Axelrod’s an idiot. What, did he all of a sudden get a direct line to America and is now their spokesperson? Guess he doesn’t look to much at polls which show the MAJORITY of Americans don’t want this bill. He’s a typical politician. Lying when his lips are moving.

So President Oblahblah is going to have yet another campaign event in which he’ll trump out some hard luck case letter. Why not bring out the lady who had to wear her dead sister’s teeth that was trumpeted in the media event a week ago? That was such a thrilling story!

I’m sorry, but to think that the government is going bankrupt because of all the entitlements the democrats have passed over the years and their solution to the mess is yet another entitlement is downright retarded. I don’t want it.

JK said: “Hey you communist Axelrod! It’s called CONGRESS. I know you want us to be like Europe, but we don’t call it a parliament here.”

We actually do call our procedures “parliamentary.” John V. Sullivan is the current House Parliamentarian.

I do abhor this most unethical and corrupt Congress and Administration.

I almost puked watching this.

He said they had a similar health plan in Mass and he wants to give everyone in America the same opportunity.

1. built into our constitution is the fundamental right of states to pretty much do their own thing. It’s far easier to change a state law or simply leave a state (like I left CA) that change a Federal law.

2. Obama-Care isn’t offering an opportunity, it’s imposing a system that half the country doesn’t want and that will like bankrupt America.

America…how would he know what ‘real’ Americans care about?

He is so out of the mainstream America…he and his other Democratzi ‘loons’ and their Nation of Islam’s Messiah came out of socialist/marxist teachings and leanings…nothing American about that!

America…we need to ‘ax’ the Axelrod…by sending him packing along with his Democratzi ‘loons’ and their plans to destroy America from within!

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JUST EIGHT (8) MORE MONTHS TO “D” DAY II !

1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!

ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!

IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!

Americans care if their voices are ignored and a government uses parliamentary
tricks to force them to do what they don’t want to do.

Axelrod, Emmanuel, Gibbs……can’t you just picture them in Nazi uniforms?

Americans understand that freedoms are being stolen from them, Herr Axelrod.

Herr Axelrod doesn’t understand that freedom is America’s backbone, and that
it is under daily assault by Obama and company.

Herr Axelrod doesn’t understand freedom, and how Americans want to preserve
it, and how healthcare abridges freedom.

1. If the government denies treatments or procedures, there is no appeal
2. A government bureaucrat, under Obamacare, will decide, through health panels who will get what procedure, what medicine, and inevitably, who will
be kept on life supports and who won’t.
3. Americans was the freedom to choose the health plan that suits their needs; Obama wants single-payor, i.e. NO CHOICE.

Americans cherish freedom and see it being taken from them!

hope

change

2010

2012

Seems this guy is accustomed to dictating what the American people will & will not do. There’s a sick kind of control behind all of this ‘democrat’ theory. Democrats are in favor of us serving them. & they will stop at nothing to see that this is what they get. Everything that they do is a means to that end. Packaging our death so that we won’t see it, that’s all they ever can do.

“POINT OF ORDER’ MR. SPEAKER”

“We the People”,
know you are operating outside the Constitution. You are in criminal intent of said Constitution. Your government is in Anarchy against the Foundation laws, and the people of Said Constitution. Over a long, and admittedly unchallenged time, you have created a Constitutional Crisis in your arrogant and tyrannical use of central Power. You’ Sir, and those you speak for are the enemy of a Free people and of this nation and it’s Constitution. You have put this nation in a Cold Civil War because of your disdain for the Rights, Freedoms and Liberties of “We the People”.

Death to Tyrants and Corrupt Politicians.

They both really do understand that America doesn’t Need or Want a phony “road map”.

America wants a “Big Stop Sign”, for this corrupt, Anti-American, health care fake out,
budget buster, Liberty stealing, Tyranny enabling, nearly 3,000 page(!), piece of Marxist inspired garbage.

For the first time in my life after serving my country in uniform for 20 plus years, and several combat tours protecting our way of life, and the rights of others I am loosing faith in our fundamental system. We are so broke now how the hell are we going to pay for this for the entire country. Did I serve for not. Did I protect a administration that believes in socialism not a republic? I very sad..very, very sad

These Demon-crats are EVIL.
This Hitler clone needs to be moved out of power asap.

Hard to believe the nerve. But maybe in their minds if we weren’t smart enough to keep commies out,then we are dumb.Or that they were elected and appointed so we should realize that and let i go.

Did anyone ask this douche bag how much money he has made from “pro government” health care. It is a minimum of $2,000,000. He is a POS.

The man is a proctologist’s delight at either end.

@kmichaels,
I don’t make many posts, but I do enjoy and agrre with your comments.

Thank you kmichaels you have a great mind!
You sir, are a great American!

Forgot to mention.
I haven’t seen OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET!!!
He is NOT MY president!!

AxelRoid is bleeding…is melting…is gonna do the GITMOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

One question. If the Constitution doesn’t matter, who the hell are these guys to me?

What’s a little thing like parliamentary procedure?
Instead, maybe we should give preference to:
1) Those in Congress that scream the loudest?
2) Those in Congress who stamp their feet?
3) The one in Congress who knows how to fist fight the best?
4) The biggest person in Congress?
and I’m sure Axelroot likes this one:
5) the one who most resembles H.!.T.l.3.R

no axle .. communist, origressive pigs to NOT care!!!!

Stupid ignorant people do NOT care

most sucking off the gumb mint nipple want to keep it that way including yourself!!!

this will not end well.
i have been wrong before but my logic says democrats will have a very short stick at the end of the day.

Well, that just about says it all for these people. They think we don’t know or don’t care, so they’re entitled to do as they please. that’s how Hugo Chavez got started.

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These pigs are ignoring the will of the American people and the rules of our Constitution.

I will give David Axelrod this – If you are talking about the Americans who voted for Obama, then yes, you are right, Americans don’t care about the process. . .Most who voted for Obama did so only because he is a “Black” man and he wasn’t George Bush. Duh! However, the rest of us DO care about the process, and soon Mr. Axelrod will find out just how much!

@ lostfaith March 14th, 2010 – 2:56 pm

Here’s the oath you took:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Your duty was to execute the orders of the POTUS as Commander in Chief, via the Chain of Command. That was the means to the end. The end itself is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, abroad and here at home. However, when our elected officials themselves become hostile to the Constitution, each man must make a choice. He must either choose either to defend the Chain of Command, or the Constitution, which is the essence of our Republic. Such a paradox leads to movements like the Oath Keepers.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

It creates an awful dilemma for those who volunteer to serve our Republic in the military, when they’re told that they’re directly defending the safety, security and freedom of American citizens, when in actuality the missions often have little or nothing to do with defending American citizens. Often, they’re executing missions that the founders of this country would have almost certainly objected to – missions like “exporting Democracy”, nation building, and policing the world. Our men and women in uniform have the best of intentions, but our elected officials abuse the privilege of having a top notch all volunteer force, by continuing to send these dedicated people on fool’s errands.

I too wore the uniform of our Republic, so, to quote a past Commander in Chief, “I feel your pain”.

Try us.

Sect 1 Art 7 clause 2

axe dosnt get out much,but since we do,well remember all this crap and the palin slams tied to bho and his commie buddies?

“Americans don’t know or care much about parliamentary procedure…”

A sure sign that he’s a DC insider – he’s assuming that Congress’ disdain and ignorance of parliamentary procedure is a reflection of America as a whole…

We care as much now as we did in the 1770s…

Start sharpening the pitchforks!

These ba$tard$ won’t be happy till all Americans are standing at attention, right arm in the air, yelling HEIL, MEIN FEUHRER!

WELL, IT’S GOING TO BE A HELLUVA LONG WAIT, YOU THUGS & JACKBOOTS!

P.S. Anexio is just another worthless idiot (probably from Chicago’s South side) who thinks the world owes him a living. HAH! W-R-O-N-G, you sloth, go support YOURSELF!

More and more, it looks as if they are deliberately trying to PROVOKE a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. (Remember what Joe Biden said about a year and a half ago??)

Seems like all of this B.S. is ORCHESTRATED for some very nefarious purpose–and it ain’t health care!

McCain, Clinton, anyone would be better than the arrogant, adoration seeking, lying demagogue the liberal bias news media got elected.

A lying demagogue is President.
A brainless gaff machine is Vice President.
A deranged babbler is House Speaker.
A Dr. Jekyll psychopath is Senate Leader.
A Chicago thug is Chief of Staff.
A tax cheat is Treasury Secretary.
A leftist radical is Attorney General.
A complete boob is Press Secretary.

If Axelnut thinks the people are stupid,who the hell is he to preach?
He needs a shrink in GITMO,needs to be tased!

I know whats right for me, and so do other people,some like to be led by the nose(liberals) and have hand outs, well I don’t friggin like it, tired of the leaching people in this country, and specialy the affirmative action people like Holder and the supreme justice Whats her name?
and i’m sure of others too, So Axelnut, your a nut job who takes orders from a muslim who can’t provide a birth certificate and other factors relating to it. It is a breaking of the “USA” if this is passed, Welcome to the new CHINA!

Parlimentary procedures are not the main problem with healthcare, IMO. So shame on MSNBC for letting David Axelrod sidestep MAJOR constitutional problems with Obamacare.

Here’s why Obama, Reid and Pelosi are in contempt of the Constitution that they have hypocritically sworn to defend. They are unthinkingly basing their so-called constitutional authority to make healthcare legislation on perversions of the Commerce Clause by pro-big federal government justices in the 1930s and 40s.

Eight of these justices were nominated nominated by FDR, an enemy of the Constitution, and caved in to perverting the Commerse Clause to give the green light to illegal spending legislation inspired by FDR. The justices did so by scandalously ignoring state sovereignty statutes like Article V and the 10th Amendment when deciding cases which tested the limits of Congress’s powers. So here’s the situation.

Given that the federal Constitution is silent about public healthcare, the 10th Amendment automatically reserves government power to regulate healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress.

In fact, the USSC has already decided that Congress has no business sticking its big nose in the medical practice.

“Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously beyond the power of Congress.” –Linder v. United States, 1925. http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/5/case.html

So presuming that they really know that they don’t have the constitutional authority to make healthcare legislation, Obama, Reid and Pelosi are criminally ignoring the following.

Article V requires Reid and Pelosi to rally Congress to propose a healthcare amendment to the states for ratification. And should the states choose to ratify such an amendment, then Congress would have the power to make Obamacare legislation.

On the other hand, the states can always choose not to ratify such an amendment, in which case Congress remains without constitutional authority to regulate healthcare.

In the meanwhile, Obama, Reid and Pelosi are treasonously basing Obamacare legislation on constitutionally nonexistent federal government powers. So they might just as well make legislation to build a federal prison for corrupt presidents and congressmen and move into it.

The bottom line is that Constitution-defending patriots have a big mess to clean up in DC in this year’s midterm elections.

Yavol! Herr Axelrod! Is your plan to dispose of these tea partiers? To
put them in camps and give them some of your so-called healthcare?

Obama is an illegal President! Why are the Republicans playing this game? Throw all the bucking Fums out! They are not worth saving! None of them! This is why Obama and his gang can do anything they want,…there is no one standing for the Constitution! The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves, and will stand up to judge us for not doing something!

We get to see mass political suicide as it happens! Let’s see who the brave ones are and who decides to cut their throats in the name of political gains.

au contrere, mr. axelod. It’s only the fools that voted for the fraud to whom holds your loyalty, NOT the rest of us. We know what you and your fraud-boss are all about, and we will rectify our mistake at the first opportunity. I hope this entire administration is ultimately charged, prosecuted and jailed for crimes against the Constitution.

Translation: they do not care if they disregard the law, the constitution or anything else that might get in their way. Parliamentary procedure? Dats nuttin….we don’t need no stinkin parliamentary procedure.

All they need to do is pass it. They DO hear “us” and they know exactly what they are doing. Once this passes there is no repealing it. The republicans will run on repealing it, but the experts agree it can’t be done. It will be the end of a significant part of our way of life in this country. Obama, et al, are wealthy and will be even more wealthy the more control they steal. Along with healthcare, they are cramming the student loan program down our throats and Lord knows what else. This is nothing about what we want or need. It is all about these power hungry control freaks. They are about to pull off a great big “gotcha” on “We the People” and there is not a darn thing we can do about it. Just pray that there are enough good dems in the bunch to stop it.

Keep deluding yourself Axelrod. We DO care and we ARE watching. And we don’t like what we see. Your ‘young man’ Obama will a one termer for sure. http://www.thefedupamerican.com

hey you stupid hitletesque SOB!!!!! I care very much that you are trying to circumvent the constitution that this country has its existence to thank. I AM one of those AMERICAN people that would love to burn you at the stake if and when i see you walking down the street. You had better stop this naughty naughty power grab of I will re-boot your A$$ out of waistington as soon as I have the pleasure.

look forward to seeing you,

Alexrose, er, rod, is just a Chicago buffoon. The current administration reminds me more of the Three Stooges, with Obama being Moe. Y’all can divy up between Axelrod, Emmanuel, Van Jones, and the lot between Larry, Curly, Joe and Curly-Joe.

As far was the normal citizen of this country not caring about parlimentary procedure, probably right. We do, however, care about how our rights are thrown under the train for the sake of 12 million people who don’t have health insurance. The have health care, just no health insurance.

Benedict Axelrod, I have just one question. How many millions of dollars are you being paid by the Obama and his associates for your loyality?

Charlie Rangel resign NOW.

Notice Axlerod used the same numbers for savings of $100 Trillion which we know isn’t true, and he also doesn’t mention nor does Brokaw mention or ask about when Americans would start receiving benefits and how much it wil save each person under this HC plan, He also talks about how many members in the Democratic party are now starting to see the light, I wonder how ? And how many rocks did they turn to find yet another person who had to make the choice of keeping there home over INsurance ?? Simply amazing how they come up with this spin to pass a monstrous Bill !!!

LYING SACK OF SHIET!!IS HIS NAME SAUL ALINSKY..

they do and say what ever it taks to forward their commnist agenda.,

there has to be some legal rememd7y for these lying bastards.

This gas bag is exactly like his boss, a fake and lying fraud. “You don’t speak for
this American dude!” Why don’t you go back to the White House and help
Barry Soetoro find his citizenship papers before you idiots do any more damge!

People do care! Great cartoon about Louise Slaughter’s “Constitutional Malpractice” at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/health-care/

hey axelsnot, dang dumb common folk dont care or know anything about them
pesky rules n stuff. thats why we need skum bag vomit puck fuks lik you to
dictate whats right n wrong.,,anit that right axelsmuck.,omfg 5minutes .thats all i ask.

What arrogance!

Americans may not be able to recite Robert’s Rules of Order, but they do care about fair play. The elitists and the leftists may think it is okay to change the rules to make sure of a win; however, most American’s despise those who display their disregard for fair play.

What American’s have witnessed by the Democratic majority during the last year would make any would-be dictator proud. I, for one, loathe what I have seen; and those who have displayed such an anti-Constitutional abuse of power certainly revealed their true nature and goals.

And finally, I would like to tell every single person that voted for this Human 9/11 and his gang of Morons, Fools and Useful Idiots, that I despise you and anyone you know who did. (NSA?…Are you listening?…Good, now go get that dozen glazed like I asked for sometime ago. Pronto!!!)

This is just unbelievable. They’re in a nip and tuck fight over health care and he says something like that?? These guys are way more dangerous than we thought.

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black national liberation theology communist barry,and all his chicago commie crew will be arrested for sedition, and corruption.

What BO is trying to do is unconstitutional. Our rights of freedom of choice are being taken away without due process. Let’s hope that someone challenges this bottomless pit and takes it to the Supreme Court.

Axelrod, you are your evil master are going to be defeated! Loser! Liar! Traitor to American Ideals, and to the American People!

If they pass this MONSTROSITY, every American who loves our country should take to the STREETS, march loudly & proudly & SWEAR THEY WILL NOT COOPERATE WITH THIS TAKEOVER OF OUR HEALTH CARE. WE ALSO WILL NOT COOPERATE WITH ANY STINKING NATIONAL I.D. CARD, EITHER.

THIS IS STILL AMERICA, YOU FREAKS IN D.C.! WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

OK, let’s count the millions of Americans that David Axelrod just insulted.
This Obama administration thinks that they are the elite and us “Americans” are the ignorant masses.

Axelrod, Jared, Gibbs, Obama, are my lips moving? Then I’m lying!

…but thanks to you, and the Head Dictator, we are quickly learning what it’s like to live in a Banana Republic!!!

If we gave two cents about Healthcare Reform instead of JOBS AND TRUE ECONOMICAL GROWTH then we would want up or down votes – BUT WE DON’T YOU SLEEZY SUITED POLITICAL HACK!
Trash this insane bill along with every politician that has done anything to help it get this far.

THE LONGER THIS GOES ON, THE MORE GIVE-AWAYS TO BUY THE VOTES – MORE BLACKMAIL – THAT WILL COST EVERYBODY!

VOTE ALREADY – YOU WON’T CAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE THE VOTES! WE ARE WATCHING YOU ALL!
REPUB’S GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND ‘DEMAND’ THEY VOTE ON IT NOW, AND BE DONE WITH IT!

It won’t pass – and that should be the end of it!

Repub’s should DEMAND a VOTE on the floor – right now! What are they waiting for -they have the December bill, don’t they – WHY HASN’T OBAMA SIGNED IT YET????????? NOT DONE CAMPAIGNING?

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