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That is revolting. Why are they celebrating this? This child of six is being taught to kill for the sake of killing something because he can.
Did he eat all of those deer and turkeys?
I would hope six year old children would be doing something more productive with their spare time.

‘On the other hand’…
If you want your kids to learn a different way, check my vegetarian-based music CD–one of a kind stuff that gives an animal’s perspective to this.
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Meet our next serial killer.

Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Andrew Cunanan, David ‘Son of Sam’ Berkowitz, and Albert ‘Boston Strangler’ DeSalvo ALL hunted animals before they started hunting people. Subsequently, killer teenagers Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold (Columbine HS), and Kip Kinkel were also known for their past history of animal cruelty. In the study from of ‘The Care of pets within child abusing families,’ presented by DeViney & Lockwood, 88 percent of the homes were animal abuse had occurred, children were also abused.

Oh give the Petafile propaganda a rest Resa, your ignorance make me want to wretch. Life in the wilderness isn’t a damn Disney Cartoon, deer and turkey that are allowed to over populate suffer from disease and starvation, or would you prefer for hundreds of thousands of deer to starve to death rather than tens of thousands be harvested and the others spared? This is why I can’t take you people seriously. This kid isn’t being taught to kill for the sake of killing, he’s being taught to hunt. There’s a big difference between killing and hunting, but I doubt your capable of grasping that fact. Personally I’ve hunted since I was 13, and I wish now I’d been allowed to start earlier but I wasn’t ready for it, I lacked the self control and patience that is needed to become a good hunter at that age. What this kid is doing is phenomenal. He’s learning a real and valuable skill. Hunting puts meat on the table, and yes I imagine he and his family will be eating those deer and turkeys for some time now. My family usually runs out of deer sausage, deer salami, and venison long before the next hunting season. And while wild turkey isn’t as meaty as domesticated, it’s a damn site tastier.

I’ve hunted every year for almost 28 years now and I love it, and I think that every kid should be taken on a hunting trip sometime in their life because it teaches one respect for the environment, a better understanding of wildlife, patience and self discipline as well as a valuable survival skill. What would you like the kid to learn instead, macrame? This boy is remarkable because at his age he’s got more patience and self discipline than most adults I’ve met. Hunting isn’t some “Elmer Fudd” cartoon, for Turkey and Deer it’s sitting in a blind or in a stand for hours on end, waiting patiently, quietly, for your quarry.

It might also interest you to know that the fees from hunting licenses are the primary source of support for state wildlife conservation programs. Not only that but hunters are among the greatest advocates for maintaining pristine environments, encouraging species conservation, restoring wet lands, and maintaining state parks. The Sierra Club types may get the press for what they do, but they spend more of the money they raise in administration and in supporting political candidates than they do in actually getting things done. Talk about useless, show me one state park that the Sierra Club has helped renovate or expand, I can show you hundreds that exist only because of hunting and fishing license fees.

Actually Tori, that’s a lie. They didn’t hunt animals, they tortured them. Most of the names you mentioned also suffered from some sort of psycho-sexual disorder, were themselves confused about their sexual identity, or were pure sociopaths. In fact the torturing of animals and bullying of small children are among the signs of a sociopathic personality and are known common traits among serial killers. Hunting is not torturing, it is killing for food. There are tens of millions of hunters in the United States and the suggestion that they’re basically serial killers in training is ludicrous and unsupportable, but it’s an easy mistake to make when you’ve got an agenda that doesn’t include the truth.

BTW, I love vegans. They taste just as good as regular folks and have a lot less cholesterol!

I completely agree Maurice :)

Hey, my wife loves how I taste…and you are what you eat. For a trip, if nothing else, check my ‘meatless music’ CD at http://www.vegantunes.com

It is original music with a vegan attitude–fun but a deeper message. I don’t get off on trying to change the world–but I like how I live mine, too.

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Lance, you’ve proved my point – vegans are damn tasty! :-)

Seriously, I’ve got nothing against folks that chose the vegan lifestyle as long as they don’t try and convert me. My wife is a reformed vegan. She went from vegan when we met years ago to a lacto/ovo and now she’s gotten to where she’s willing to eat fish or meat on occasion as long as it’s something I or someone among my family or our friends have gotten through hunting, that way she doesn’t feel like she’s supporting corporate farms where cruelty is an issue. My only real complaint is that I’ve yet to find a way to “hunt” lambchops.

Maurice says: “…and I think that every kid should be taken on a hunting trip sometime in their life because it teaches one respect for the environment, a better understanding of wildlife, patience and self discipline as well as a valuable survival skill. What would you like the kid to learn instead, macrame?”

Just a thought: I haven’t eaten meat, fish or fowl since I was 17. I am 55 now, still a cop, and still run marathons and do Alcatraz to SF swims yearly. My son is a vegan, is a black belt in 3 disciplines, has climbed Mt. Kilomanjaro, and has as much self discipline as any. Some people use hunting to teach the traits you mentioned, but others like me used other means to teach our kids the same message…self-respect, respect for all living things, and how to recognize the fact that mountain lions, whether on four legs or two will eat anyone, including vegetarians.

My philosophy is in my music–’meatless music with a vegan attitude’ @

http://www.vegantunes.com

No way am I one of those ‘I am right about this’ dudes. It works for me, and I know that meat eating is as natural as rain for others.

Did you wife tatse any different after the switch back? ;)

Lance, funny you should mention Karate. I was a really hyperactive kid, which is why my dad and older brother wouldn’t take me on hunting trips with them when I was younger. That changed shortly after I enrolled in a summer Karate program which taught me the discipline I needed to really get control of myself. If not for that program I probably wouldn’t have gotten to start hunting at 13.

As for taste, well actually no difference at all as far as I could tell. Now when we both quit drinking coffee and went to Green Tea, then I definitely noticed a difference, she was “sweeter” so to speak. In fact she noticed that about me as well. Now that’s a benefit to drinking Green Tea that some marketing company ought to run with!

What an utter failure these parents are.
THey forgot to teach the simple principle of Respect.
Maybe they were never taught it……..

Resa,

If he killed more than he or his family can eat, that is okay. For many deer hunters who live here (I live in Michigan)it is not uncommon to take an extra buck or doe (permit needed, of course!). We have a program here in Michigan that allows hunters to donate extra game to local food charities, such as food kitchens. The charities win, because they are given fresh meat that they can use. The hunters win because it gives them the opportunity to help out. The environment wins, because it means fewer deer will starve over the winter months or contract tuberculosis, which is a problem that the DNR is extremely concerned with.

Also, Michigan is number 2 for deer/vehicle collisions in the country. State Farm insurance estimate that 1.5 million vehicles hit a deer every year. This costs insurance companies a whopping $1.1 billion dollars a year (this number continues to rise each year!) and is responsible for an average of 150 human deaths (also rising each year).

Unfortunately, the leftist tree hugging organizations love to slam all meat eaters, calling us murderers and rapers of the land. In all honesty, we are the ones who tend to care more about conservation than any of those groups!

To better understand us, please take the time to get to know us. I think you’ll be surprised to find out we truly love the land and desire to preserve it for future generations. There is no greater thrill than to hand down the lessons learned from one generation to the next.

Lance,

By what I can tell from your posts, you are more concerned with the commercialization of this problem by shamelessly promoting a CD?

Wow. That would make make a me conservationist and you a profiteer? I hope that I am wrong on this one.

Tori,

It has been well known for many, many years now the connection between animal abuse and dysfunction.

But there is the possibility of some hunters being accused of animal abuse.

Let me explain.

To me, a hunter who abuses animals is the hunter who shoots his quarry without taking the appropriate steps necessary to ensure a clean and quick kill. This would be a deer hunter who shoots too far back on the deer, who’s shot pierces the deer’s intestinal tract. The deer will, in all likelihood, die. But it could be a long and painful death. Proper aim is required for a humane kill. This means aiming for the heart. If the heart, or even the lungs, can be pierced, the kill will be quick and clean. Usually, if the lung is hit, the deer will run a little ways, lay down to rest, go to sleep and never wake up.

But to learn this requires the humane hunter to practice, practice, practice. This is why you will see so many magazines and television shows that cover this very topic. We want to minimalize the pain to the animal being taken. We are truly concerned about the amount of pain it may go through. And we work extremely hard to make sure that we take it down as quickly and cleanly as possible.

I hope that this clarifies the issue for you.

Liav, what exactly prompts you to say that they didn’t teach their son respect? Seriously, why do so many who oppose hunting assume that folks who teach their children to hunt are irresponsible or failing to teach their children respect for life. It’s the other way around. This boy is obviously well disciplined, intelligent, and patient – all traits necessary if one is to hunt at that age. It’s also obvious to me that the boy has been taught to respect and understand firearms, something that is more valuable to his health and welfare than you could imagine. Children who have been taught about firearms, taught to respect them and to act responsibly around them, are the ones who know what to do around a gun.

I’ve taught firearms awareness and safety to children and adults before and it’s remarkable to me the number of people who say “Oh, I tell my son/daughter all the time, ‘NEVER touch a gun, never even look at one, you could get hurt!’ and then stare in wonder when I ask kids “Have you ever seen a gun before, in your house or a friend’s house?” and the little hands go up. Reality trumps fantasy every time. The reality is that there are over 240 million guns in over 80 million homes in the USA, the odds of a child never coming into contact with a firearm are slim. The children who end up getting hurt or killed by firearms, or injured by air guns and pellet guns, are the ones who’s parents think that telling a child “Don’t Touch” is all they need to know about guns. Children are naturally inquisitive, the best way to protect them is to educate them about firearms and to teach them to respect them. That’s what this family has done, and I consider that to be both prudent and evident of good parenting.

Truly sorry to read an article like this one. That child is learning how to disregard the feelings of others. Also no respect for the creatures that inhabit this earth. Maybe next time it may be you that’s his target. Elaine

Animal abuse? Future serial killer? Disrespect? You’re only making yourselves look like idiots! Those kills were for meat, plain and simple. Not one was a trophy, though I hope he drops a nice buck this year so he can mount the antlers.

I’m sorry PETA brainwashed you into thinking the way you do. Hunting is an American tradition, and I tip my hat to the father of this child.

Meat and potatoes > rabbit fodder.

I hope he kills about 12 more the next time he goes out. Deer are just big rodents. We need to kill them all.

This kid is like so many of us “fly over men” we were raised to farm and hunt and to respect these animals for what they are “meat” not to torture or treat in a cruel way. This young man will probably grow up to take care of his family and be a REAL American. Not some Hyper Whimp neutered male. Kind of like Lance (the cough cough San Fran MAN!) I am sure he has eaten alot of meat.. We love women that can eat meat! Not those pasty VEGANS! Lance how is your Boss the little SF Police Chief? PATHETIC! You should be real proud of all the corruption in the SFPD! Stop making music and ARREST some of the ILLEGAL ALIENS SF has in the 1000’s.

SADISTIC CHILD LEARNING HOW TO KILL, LOVELY.

How could a 6 year old child possibly decide he is ready to kill, in all honesty this is child abuse. Children are being expelled from school for drawing pictures of guns and this poor child is being taught to kill. I’m all for his making up his own mind but at 6, it’s ridiculous. I am so grateful i live where this vulgar nonense is unheard of. and thank god I know my children are not playing with a child who is taught and encouraged, to kill. This is 2008 and we ain’t
gotta go behind the barn to get our dinner. Gross

“gotta go behind the barn to get our dinner. Gross”

What?

Ask our vegan buddy lance how animals in factory-farms are treated.

Every animal harvested from the overpopulated woods not only relieves the pressure to the remainder of the herd but also removed the need for one of those factory-farm animals – one less animal living in terrible conditions on a factory farm…

There is nothing wrong with hunting. Predation is a normal part of the cycle and we are at the top of the food chain. Apes left the trees long ago to eat meat. And it was that high fat/protein diet that allowed our brains to develop and intelligence to become a dominant factor in our survival. There simply wasn’t enough of these things in the diet of pre-man to give him what he needed for this accomplishment otherwise!

And if you still can’t deal with hunting, don’t hunt. But don’t stop us from hunting. We don’t force you to eat meat.

Thank you Maurice

This kid is being taught valuable life skills. His dad is a hero and should be nominated for Father of the Year. Wish my dad taught me how to feed the family before I turned 7. I’m just leaving work now and heading home to a deliciuos pheasant & venison dinner.

Just remember, you can not criticize any man who is honest enough to kill his own dinner.

Jeebus. The moron brigade is out in force. Gotta love folks like Ann, Wela, and Elaine. Typical of the causehead crowd they’re all hot and bothered about other people’s business when maybe they ought just SHUT IT. Like typical causeheads they don’t know jack about the topic at hand, they have no experience and neither does anyone they know, but the FEEL offended and so they tell us all with absolute moral authority what’s wrong with this little kid and his family. Maybe they’d be happier if he was living with his two mom’s at a commune in the upper northwest, living on bean curd and playing the part of a human shield to stop military transports from offloading in Olympia.

Do me a favor. I get that you all think hunting is evil, so how would you suggest we handle animal overpopulation among Turkey and Deer? I mean is hunting and killing some of them worse than letting them die en masse from disease and starvation? If we were to outlaw hunting, what alternate method would you use to support state parks and conservation plans, since Hunting and Fishing licenses are the primary source of revenue that currently support them? If this kid, who can sit quietly for hours waiting patiently in the cold early part of the morning with his father only to successfully kill two deer with a Remmington .223 (no small feat at that), isn’t ready to start hunting now, when will he be? OK, I know you want to answer NEVER, but seriously, he enjoys hunting with his father and he’s got the discipline for it so the only reason you object is because he is using a gun to get meat. If he was playing golf you’d be gushing over him, but let the boy learn a skill that can feed his family and it’s just EVIL.

I’ve got nothing against hunting for meat, but that’s a lot of damn deermeat. Are they eating all that deer, or are they just shooting for “sport”?

Sheri, these folks live in Arkansas so I imagine they’re eating it and sharing the surplus with friends and family or donating it to a food pantry. I live in Missouri and that’s what we do here when we’ve got extra.

This kid is going to grow up to be a responsible provider for his family, his dad is doing a great job. Heck I bet they even have a large vegetable garden also for ingrediants in that venison stew. Six deer way to go young man and may there be many more safe and succesful hunts in your future.

Maurice you nailed it great common sense comments on your part. Hell gang bangers are shooting each other to death every day and these “Pukes” won’t say a word about that, but kill a deer or turkey for food and the PETA, Vegan crowd shows up with their venemous narrow minded ignorant comments. Freakin hypocrites the whole lot of ya.

I totally agree with Maurice and the other non-liberals who have their heads on straight in this discussion. And Resa by something more productive I would like some clarification. I take it you mean sitting in front of the TV or playing video games while becoming more obese by the moment is productive….? Democrats??? will they ever learn?

You don’t get it. This child had no choice. What if he didn’t wish to hunt. how can a six year old know ? what if the experience affected him adversely. Why are movies rated? Does he watch porn? It’s supposedly a “manly” thing to do. Child abuse. Parents should be ashamed. If he wishes to hunt when he’s old enough to decide for himself that’s different. Pukes want to hunt fine, don’t put a gun in a 6 year olds hands. Dear god, what would a pediatrician or shrink say about what this did to him.

So if I want to hunt I’m a puke? Well personally I think you’re typical of the anti-hunting crowd, you embody all of the traits I’ve found in dealing with them to wit you are: arrogant, uninformed, self-righteous, condescending, insulting of others, contemptable of opinions that don’t hew to your own dogma, incapable of rational discussion because you don’t allow for opposing views, and not interested in debate. You’ve already made up your mind, hunters are Pukes and anyone who lets a child hunt is forcing them to kill and should have the authorities called on them because it’s tantamount to child abuse in your mind. Congratulations, you’ve graduated from disagreeable on the topic to full blown bitch. I pity your children, I’m sure they’re missing out on a lot in life with your controlling, narrow minded, and domineering approach to life. If they aren’t in therapy now they will be later in life, and probably for a long, long time, trying to come to terms with the damage you’ve done to them. BTW – what the hell does a pediatrician know about psychology? They’re medical doctors, not therapists – btw, check out one yourself for your issues regarding hunting. You’ve definitely got some.

Someone must envision a great future for the world and us all when children age 6 can all take up weapons larger than themselves, join competitive pursuits in the killing of female deer. Call me old fashioned but I remember when children wer taught some reverence for life and enjoyed a petting zoo. Oh well. The media seems to have given up all morality to allow this kind of a story to be so “happily” presented. It is not enough that we kill everything in wars and oil spills we must bring little boys into the world of killing earlier and earlier. Welcome to the new world.

Oh puhleeze spare us your overwrought concern Raven. First, the .223 rifle he use only killed two dear and is hardly larger than he is. Second he killed the other four deer with a crossbow. Also it’s interesting to see that your psychic powers determined he killed only doe deer when the article states only that the largest deer was a 140# doe. FYI for the hunting ignorant like Raven, hunting doe deer requires a special doe tag and harvesting is more strictly limited than hunting bucks. Also, if I was to call you anything it’d be delusional. In the old days it wouldn’t be uncommon for a kid that age to go hunting with his father, it’d be expected. The way we live now is the exception, not the rule. A petting zoo 50 years ago was called a stockyard, that’s where the food was kept before it was slaughtered and processed.

Oh, and as for your feigned moralizing – give it a rest. Hunting is legal for 6 year olds and up in most states when they’re accompanied by an adult because historically that’s when they started going out with their parents. It’s only been the last 40 years or so that things have started to change and ignorant and intolerant attitudes like yours have become more common.

Hunting is not abuse. I say way to go kid, you did good. Oh BTW keep a tight hold on your gun, “They” are trying to take it away from you.

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