NBA Great Charles Barkley Calls Conservatives ‘Fake Christians’

"Every time I hear the word 'conservative' it makes me sick to my stomach."

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February 15, 2008 at 5:16 pm - CNN
Dateline: New Orleans, LA
grik   February 15th, 2008 - 5:54 pm

Go Barkley! Hes got my vote.

Adam   February 15th, 2008 - 6:00 pm

First of all, christian republicans give more money to charity than any other voting block in this country. Secondly, there are many conservatives who are not christian. Fiscal conservatism has nothing to do with religion. Lastly, voting Democrat no matter what, as he says he will, is a shortcut to thinking. Anyone who would consider this man intelligent is sheltered.

Josh Anon   February 15th, 2008 - 6:06 pm

Please run in 2014 as a Democrat, you slow dimwitted jock. Make the Alabama GOP’s job easy.

Scott   February 15th, 2008 - 6:12 pm

Barkely as always is spot on. When is he gonna run for Gov?

I learned something about the republican party (of which I’ve been apart of my entire adult life). It was very eye-opening to see that the Christians were told to go to the back of the bus and shut up. Social conservative concerns don’t hold water to the country club republicans’ concern about taxes. I’ll never view my party the same.
Romney and Huck both flip-flopped on a couple things. Romney raised ‘fees’ and Huck (not as slick) kept the name taxes. The differences between the two was minimal. Yet Rush, Ann, Hannity, et al all slammed Romney down our throats and absolutely killed Huckabee.

The only difference I can see is one is Christian and one is not.

This is just one of the contributing factors to what will be a monumental landslide for the Dems this election.

I smell a 3rd party Christian candidate in 2012.

WWE   February 15th, 2008 - 6:38 pm

This is the great divide between conservatives and liberals. We conservatives think that liberals are “wrong.” Liberals think conservatives are “evil.” They immediately go to an assumption not of being correct, but of moral superiority. Now, we are fake Christians. Thanks, you pompous jock.

Rick   February 15th, 2008 - 6:40 pm

Hypocrites? How hypocritical to claim that. I would love to debate Christianity with this guy! I do hope he runs for office on the Democrat ticket. Maybe he should read the whole Word instead of just listening to someone else tell him that the Bible says “Judge Not.” There is an awful lot more in there than that and apparently he’s not come across anything else.

A thrilla   February 15th, 2008 - 7:28 pm

Chirstians are fake as a whole.

if   February 15th, 2008 - 8:01 pm

Perfect politician! barkley is, and always will be madly in love with himself. And now he needs attention like paris or britney, he’s a junkie for praise and power. Now that he’s been athletically emasculated because of his age and diminishing skills he’s looking for a job where he can use his abnormally big mouth, and ghetto punk demeanor to try to bully his way into a government job. The last thing Alabama needs!

Michael   February 15th, 2008 - 8:15 pm

Charles,

Thank you for speaking out and please keep it up!Christmas came early for the Republican party today :)

MaximusDelta   February 15th, 2008 - 8:22 pm

What a moron.
He should stick to basketball ans screwing white women.
He doesn’t have any thing about being a Christian.

Rayj   February 15th, 2008 - 9:56 pm

The day will come that barkley will eat his words. If he knew anything, us “fake” Christians live by a standard that all will be judged by. If we are going to judge others, we should be willing to be judged by the same standard. We love people and forgive them, we just don’t like their actions. Same sex marriage and killing babies to name a few things, will only bring God’s judgement on this country. Anyway, by 2014, he won’t need to run for govenor, the USSA won’t need any govenors. Did he get hit in the head too many times?

Dave   February 15th, 2008 - 10:15 pm

. . . Like Barkley faked playing defense?

James   February 15th, 2008 - 10:16 pm

He sounds about as brilliant as Magic Johnson. I was considering voting for Obama, but the idiots who support him have me second guessing that.

Brian   February 15th, 2008 - 10:19 pm

How deumb is trhis man…Conservatives can not say that abortion and gay marriage are immoral because this would be judgemental? SO in other words we can never call an immoral act immoral because we always need to forgive. What if I chose to force a person into slavery could noone challenge me because they would need to forgive me therefore never question my actions??? Of course not Barkley is a jackass and always has been. Let him run..he has no intelligence and no logic in his positions. Run Charles Please run you will be exposed for the fraud he is!

jjyeley   February 15th, 2008 - 10:22 pm

Charles Barkley is a moron. He shoots his fat head mouth off and he couldnt even spell the word Governor. Bounce a ball chucky and shut the hell up. You say Conservatives judge people. Well what the hell are you doing when you say all the things about them. You didnt win a ring and you sure as hell wont win the race for Governor. I know Alabama schools suck and its people are not very educated but they are smart enough not to vote for a dip like you.

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libsukbad   February 15th, 2008 - 10:31 pm

Another libtard,’nuff said. Examples like him are yet another reason that public schools are trying so hard to keep the kids dumb so they actually think he’s smart.

Oh Well   February 15th, 2008 - 10:37 pm

The Bible. The most quoted and miss quoted book in the world. You can tell Charles has not read the Good Book. God will have his way with him. Vengence is mine says the Lord. God will not be mocked.

Jordan VanderSlut   February 15th, 2008 - 10:46 pm

So, Burpley says that Christians are hypocritical because they judge, and that he doesn’t mind them hearing his opinion? Did Charles Burpley make a judgement about Christians? Did he j-u-d-g-e the fact that they are hypocritical? What is he demeaning, judgments or hypocrisy? He should, ipso facto dumbo, say the same about himself.

SB   February 15th, 2008 - 10:48 pm

Very disappointed to see Chuck fall back on liberal talking points. Even worse, as mentioned before, he might need to check his Bible again, as I see no mention of killing the un-born as a good thing in mine…

ron smith   February 15th, 2008 - 10:52 pm

So, Sir Charles………u think the #1 liberal in Congress is a Christian? His church states their loyalty to Africa and His party supports partial birth abortion….He is not asked about abortion ..why the free pass?

Richard   February 15th, 2008 - 11:01 pm

I always enjoy ignorant uneducated people, whether they’re Charles Barkely or whoever, spouting off on things that they don’t have the knowledge to talk about.
One can be a social conservative and a fiscal conservative and not be judgemental.
When a parent teaches their child about what the Bible teaches about homosexuality and murder (pro-choice) that is not being judgemental. I didn’t make the rules, God did.
He also tells us to be fruit bearers, doers of the Word. He tells us all that whatever type of field we sow, whether it is good or bad, is the type of crop that we will yield.
When a person sows to the field of homosexuality or in the case of abortion, those people are really never happy, because they are going against God’s Word. Remember, He made the rules, not us.
It also tells us in the Scriptures for us to be careful who we hang with.
I would also like to challenge Mr. Barkely on what the Democrats have ever done for him or his race, besides push them farther into their own self-depravation. Jesus tells us to teach men how to fish, not to give them fish.
Jesus tells us that everyone is sinners, and all need to come through Him, by repentance of our sinful nature, to receive eternal life.
I hope that everyone thinks hard about HIS words.

David, Portland Oregon   February 15th, 2008 - 11:01 pm

Love this guy, he’s spot on.

A Christian must live by the path of Jesus to even resemble what a Christian is.

These so called ‘christian conservatives’ and ‘compassionate conservatives’ are nothing of the sort.

All I ever see from them is hate and fascism, fear and terror mongering to get their way over others.

A Christian preaches and practices compassion, tolerance, and forgiveness, or they do not hold faith in the overriding message of Jesus.

The so-called Conservatives of America that we see so publicly in talk-radio and in the Republican party are nothing but fake Christians.

Jim   February 15th, 2008 - 11:12 pm

The mentioning of the name “Barkly” gives me the runs.
Barkly is synonimous to satan.

patrick   February 15th, 2008 - 11:19 pm

What a completely pointless interview- it reminds me of when ESPN interviews actors about their thoughts on sports- most everyone thinks “who cares?”

Jeff   February 15th, 2008 - 11:19 pm

I applaud Charles for his statements! I have lived in the south most of my life and have had this same feeling. As unpopular as it is, his statement is TRUE. I have first hand knowledge of these “False” Christians, and they are the most hypocritical, judgmental people on earth.

Look at yourself in the mirror, and if you don’t have a little voice in your head that agrees somewhat with Mr. Barkley’s statement, then you are the hypocrite he speaks of.

Mike   February 15th, 2008 - 11:21 pm

Barkley is a profound idiot. He makes sweeping, baseless, emotional comments (largely for effect, and because he is surrounded by his yes-men posse), and pours it out like he has any real clue, education, experience or perspective. Sounds kinda familiar, does it not?!

Castro Street   February 15th, 2008 - 11:24 pm

O, Charles is wonderful and so bright! We just love him!

Natalie   February 15th, 2008 - 11:26 pm

Charles Barkley used to be a Republican….it appears that like Ms Huffington,he was getting tired of not getting invited to the big galas and tired of getting shunned of by the beautiful people in Hollywood….becoming a liberal is the easiest thing you can do.You just have to agree with everything the head liberals say and you are allowed to hang out with them.Its hard being a Conservative…you get laughed at,you get made fun of and you get called a hater just because you don’t want government controlling your life.Yes its hard being a Conservative but being hard is what makes it so great.

Peter   February 15th, 2008 - 11:29 pm

Conservative are “fake Christians”. How judgemental Charles. And how hypocritical.

Incredible.

Dude   February 15th, 2008 - 11:34 pm

apparently charles only read a couple of verses

Dave   February 15th, 2008 - 11:43 pm

This from a buffoon who states that professional athletes are not role models and intentionally spits on a little girl watching a basketball game.

dw   February 15th, 2008 - 11:45 pm

Why wait until 2014? By the tone and the intelligence shown in that interview he needs to run for office right away. After all, he cannot afford to lose any additional brain cells due to aging.
It also appears as if it is ok for him to judge Christians but not for Christians to judge anyone else, lol!
How considerate, loving, respectful and fair can one man be? He just overwhelms you with his sense of fairness and his ability to be the perfect hypocrite.
The perfect Democrat in other words.

Mike K   February 15th, 2008 - 11:50 pm

Forgive him for he knows not and does not understand what he is saying.

Don’t call him bad names or any name at all. Someone needs to educate the gentlemen as long as he can have a moment to sit, listen and then ask any question on morality.

Be an example as a Christian and let the truth come out.

It most likely will not come out on CNN but one never knows.

Anthony   February 15th, 2008 - 11:52 pm

So to be someone who votes Democratic “regardless” like Chuck, you have to be FOR gay marriage, even though you say you don’t care what they do and Pro Abortion.

I’m trying to understand this. If you don’t care what gay people do, as Chuck said, wouldn’t that make you indifferent to gay marriage and not FOR it? I could understand if you like what gay people do and you say you are FOR gay marriage. That would make sense. But to say you don’t care what they do, so you are for gay marriage doesn’t make any sense to me.

It also seems to me that people like Chuck want to see a Human genocide take place. If you are FOR gay marriage and FOR abortion, then how is the human race expected to continue? With no reproduction and the termination of new life, who is supposed to continue human life?

Would it be safe to say that if you put all the people like Chuck on an island by themselves with no outside contact that they would all die off?

Thank God, for the conservatives who engage in normal sexual activity and who think it is murder to stop an innocent heart from beating. We are the ones populating this country. O yeah! These gay people whom Chuck want to see get married DID NOT come from a homosexual act.

Denkat1   February 15th, 2008 - 11:59 pm

Charles is an Auburn man. This says it all…

Matthew K. Swear   February 16th, 2008 - 12:04 am

Who listen to Barkley as a politician? He could’nt even master basketball. He has no championships, no rings. Stick to sneaker commercials bud. But you could petition to bring the old timer game back to the All Star break. It would be great to see Jordan come back and own your ass every year.

KA   February 16th, 2008 - 12:14 am

Let examine a couple of facts about the fake Christians in Democrat party.

1. Thou shall not kill, yet the democrat party has supported and continues to support the killing of millions of unborn children….in the name of choice. God also has the choice to abort thier souls from heaven

2. The democrat party is trying to rid this country from everything related to God.

3. The democrat party continues to enforce intolerance towards Christianity by the way they want Supreme Court and Federal judges to enforce the above mentioned beliefs. To be a Democrat and call yourself a Christian is an oxymoron.

The fake Christians are in the Democrat party because they would rather vote for people who promise them hand outs (mammon) instead of spreading the word of God.

Everybody will eventually have thier judgement day in front of God. Some souls will be aborted while other souls will enter the Kingdom of heaven.

Curt Selser   February 16th, 2008 - 12:17 am

There should be no standards whatsoever according to his logic. Lay down with a beast, lay down with your sister, murder someone over a candy bar. If you make any judgements about this behavior, you are a hypocrite and bigot. This is funny coming from someone who is “judging” Christians and Conservatives. What a retarded piece of human excrement. And I’m an athiest, so what.

Curt   February 16th, 2008 - 12:19 am

There should be no standards whatsoever according to his logic. Lay down with a beast, lay down with your sister, murder someone over a candy bar. If you make any judgements about this behavior, you are a hypocrite and bigot. This is funny coming from someone who is “judging” Christians and Conservatives. What a retarded piece of human excrement.

Neil   February 16th, 2008 - 12:25 am

Let’s not forget, Charles once said, ” I hated f***ing white people!!”. He threw a white guy through a plate glass window, paid him off, and said “It was the best $200,000 I ever spent”. He has also said, “I am not a role model”. And this guy wants to be the governor of Alabama? Please. Another coddled, spoiled, overpaid athlete. You will never get elected Charles. Deal with that you crybaby.

andy   February 16th, 2008 - 12:45 am

The comments he makes regarding judging others is a common misconception. “Judge not lest you be judged” does not mean that all bets are off and a person cannot think another is wrong, or that there is not behavior that is appropriate to be judged for. Think for instance if our judicial system adopted Mr. Barkley’s ideas. It means that you don’t judge for things that are preferential or trivial. So for instance it’s ok to judge someone as wrong for muder, but not ok to judge them because their clothes are not in style. One is trivial the other is not.

g w   February 16th, 2008 - 12:47 am

Please , please put guys like this on regularly. The more he gets exposed the more people will see him for the poor fool he is. look what happened when Hillary got all the publicity she has.

Jason J. Lay   February 16th, 2008 - 12:57 am

Chucky boy Barkley- Homosexual loving baby killer! What a loser on an off the b ball court. I knew he had a big mouth, but now I don’t like this ignorant fool. Get lost you puke Barkley!

Steve   February 16th, 2008 - 1:03 am

Sounds to me like the Chuckster is trying to come out of the closet.

David   February 16th, 2008 - 1:07 am

Just another loud mouth darky…

Fraces Jones   February 16th, 2008 - 1:09 am

Charles had made his point!!! Just look at all
the name calling and nasty comments about him. It would be nice if you conservatives
could make your point and not be so mean. You may
not agree with him but you are proving him right
with your comments.

Kenneth   February 16th, 2008 - 1:12 am

Keep killin’ those babies Mr. Barkley!

Woohoo! What a great loving person you must be.

Chris   February 16th, 2008 - 1:14 am

Boy that stings huh, but oh so true!!! the MAJORITY of the USA has the same views, so you Neo-con Facists can eat it thanks to your idiot-in-chief, get ready for a black president red necks!

Tea   February 16th, 2008 - 1:17 am

What is his motive? Christians make up 80% of the population. Many Catholics vote democrat. Consevatives support less government in ones lives, the right to life in the unborn, family values ( including marriage between a man and women ) so all Catholics, according to Barkleys definition are fake Christians. I think the Clintons have promised Barkley support in the Alabama race. Naa, noting fits, he’s just stupid.

Fan   February 16th, 2008 - 1:19 am

Why so much anger? It appears Mr.Barkley has
stepped on some toes.

Gman   February 16th, 2008 - 1:28 am

I love when people point out that Christians are not to judge. Where in scripture does that imply they are not to think …and not to call a spade a spade – oops, bad analogy. Anyway, Christians are actually required to judge and discern right actions from wrong actions. Of course Chucky B is wrong as usual – he can’t even basketball commentary right for cryin’ out loud. And isn’t he the same moron that spit on the people that paid his salary.

What a class act, he isn’t good enough to lead the good folks of Bamaland.

Me   February 16th, 2008 - 1:35 am

Let’s clarify for Chris and his earlier comment.
Gays have all the rights the rest of us have. I have no more rights than any homosexual. Just like me they can marry anyone they want as long as the other person is not of the same sex, already married, a relative, etc you get the point. Those are the same rules we all live by. Gays can’t marry members of the same sex and neither can I, what rights do I have that they don’t?

deroy   February 16th, 2008 - 1:44 am

who are these poor?

for 40 years the entrenched and permanent government have been paying them.

they have colored TV’s, golf clubs, fancy cars, fast food, freezers, air con and lots of lotto tickets.

charles like most pro players may have crossed that “GAY” line a few times. too much time in the locker room.

Tim Satterfield   February 16th, 2008 - 1:51 am

No, barkley does not need us. But he does need Jesus. Without Jesus, he will die with nothing. But with Jesus he will live forever.

I will always vote conservative! I will always give to church and let the church take care of the poor.

I will vote ppl in that will not give money to the government so they can rob the rich and then rob the poor.

I will not vote for Barkley unless he finds Jesus and finds truth…which I hope he finds…and I think one day he may.

Ben   February 16th, 2008 - 1:52 am

If you can’t judge judgement, then judgement is nothing.

ninjapirate   February 16th, 2008 - 1:56 am

Barkley is perfect for the job.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2432043

There won’t be any government left to wage the leftists existential war after he’s through with it.

midora   February 16th, 2008 - 2:33 am

He is so wonderfully outspoken, very amusing, too.

IronyKnocksTwice   February 16th, 2008 - 2:38 am

All these hate-filled attacks about Charles Barkley are EXACTLY the point he was making. You people immediately go on the offensive, and it makes me sick. You people are SCUM, you bunch of “Christian” fascists. Whether you agree with it or not, he has at the very least the right to say it.

JudasChristmas   February 16th, 2008 - 2:52 am

jesus christ, I hate you christians. You are all such terrible spellers. And your grammar is atrocious. Read a book other than that Dungeons and Dragons manual you call “the bible” once in a while, would you? You might learn something.

Kelly   February 16th, 2008 - 3:04 am

My god (pardon the pun). It’s stunning to see how many sheeple still believe in a bigoted, racist book and religion that took 400 years to write.

NEWSFLASH: It’s not the Stone Age anymore kids — time to join the 21st Century!

Barkley is right on. These “Christians” use their religion as a cover for their bigotry and hatred. Pathetic.

Kelly   February 16th, 2008 - 3:06 am

To “Vitamin”: Then you must not get out very often. Your post alone reeks of ignorance.

lee   February 16th, 2008 - 3:37 am

Charles Barkley is just Ignorant, Period! He lives in Sodom & Gomorah (Vegas) not Arizona, at least he is in Sin City so much, you would think he lived there! How do I know, my lost friends that I love dearly go there enough to claim their report of him. He is a gay sympathizer. We Christians are not judging People, but spreading the gospel the way Jesus commanded us and he specificaly says in the Bible, not me but Jesus himself, that Homosexuality is an abomination to Him. Wasn’t the evidence of Sodom & Gomarah enough, that I speak to you friends the truth! And the truth shall set you free! Clearly not to the Blind, and the disobedient and the rebellious. A blind man leading a blind man leads to destruction. And Charles is headed towards destruction. Because he sympathizes with them, he will be cast down with them in the end of days, when every eye shall see and every ear shall hear the Lord’s coming. The Lord takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, but he would rather they repent, turn from their evil ways and return to him! Charles obvioulsy doesn’t read the Bible himself, or else he wouldn’t be so IGNORANT, Period! I pitty any kid or person who looks up to this evil man, and follows his words and mimicks him! They will be cast down with him as well. When even God, the Lord Jesus can’t reach you, you have no hope, he gives you over to yourself, because your heart is hardened! Test me, test God’s word, it’s all in the book, the Bible! You can start with Ezekiel, and then go into Corinthians! I pray those who have ears let them hear, and those who have eyes let them see! God bless those in all their reading, they get understanding. Amen!

jonn sea   February 16th, 2008 - 3:59 am

You just made your bed. sleep tight.

Chuck   February 16th, 2008 - 4:01 am

This is obviously a Hillary Clinton Plant to stop the Obama campaign. I bet he was paid by the Clintons to scare the white folk. After all he said this on CNN!

Roosevelt   February 16th, 2008 - 4:33 am

Look who’s being judgemental. None other than Barkley himself. Here’s a scripture for you: how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?

Lonewolf   February 16th, 2008 - 4:40 am

Charles your a moron, and the only ones taking you seriously are the Robots. How are you going to debate an opponent with your limited vocabluary. Try running in CA. NY or maybe VT lots of Robots who love electing dimwitted celebrities like yourself to be their leaders.

grumpus   February 16th, 2008 - 5:15 am

“How are you going to debate an opponent with your limited vocabluary. ”

Hes running in Alabama. Its not like hes going to need many words.

Tater   February 16th, 2008 - 5:50 am

What the heck did he just say? I can hardly understand that bloated ex-pro fatmouth spouting ebonics. How can anyone take someone serious when he doesn’t have a grasp of the English language nor has read a Bible? What happened to “Thou shalt not kill”? How about the part about homosexuality being a sin? Barkley, you are a sad commentary on today’s black role models. Get in line behind Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, “Magic” Johnson, Darryl Strawberry, Louis Farrakhan, Marion Barry, and Mike Tyson. I am so not religious, but if I were you, I would not stand on top of anything when there is a thunderstorm around… On second thought…

Stanley Doright   February 16th, 2008 - 5:56 am

Wow, He isn’t too good at talking. Sounds like an uneducated tool. He’e be cleaning toilets if it weren’t for throwing a ball in a hoop. About as much chance as being governor as he does learning how to talk.

Richard Pilcher   February 16th, 2008 - 6:10 am

Fat Charles sounded pretty judgemental to me. The very thing he was saying about Republicans. I guess it is OK to be judgemental if you are a liberal or socialist or believe in killing unborn babies, but not if you are a conservative.

CAMSPA   February 16th, 2008 - 6:11 am

Go Charles go. He kicked ass on the court and he’s
still kicking ass as a commentator.

Jerome   February 16th, 2008 - 6:13 am

According to Sir Charles, Christians would not be allowed to sit on juries because jurors have to pass judgments on the evidence presented to them. Also, isn’t he judging Christians by calling them “fake?” I can’t wait for 2014!

Terri   February 16th, 2008 - 6:20 am

Yikes! I thought he was smarter than that. I don’t think homosexuals want their marriages compared to murdering unborn children.

totwotoo   February 16th, 2008 - 6:20 am

He should read the Bible more closely.

The passage regarding “judging others” is NOT a command, but rather an admonition that if one judges another, the standard by which that judgment is passed will be the same standard by which the one doing the judging will be judged.

“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.” — Matthew 7:1-2, i.e.,

If one judges out of prejudice, then they will be judged out of prejudice.

If one judges out of the teaching of the Bible then they will be judged out of the teaching of the Bible, as God intended, not as man interprets it.

The context in which “Judge Not” is given is found in Matthew 7:1-6. Elsewhere, the Bible instructs us to “rightly divide the Word of Truth.”

God’s word, as God gave it, should be our standard!

mike   February 16th, 2008 - 6:20 am

This man is an absolute idiot. first of all who is doing the judging here and he is the one “using a broad brush to paint all people” as liberals would say. Anyone that agrees with Mr. Barkley is being lulled by his articulation of words….he speaks so well, like he really knows what he’s saying. can you sense the sarcasm here?? COMPLETE MORON, i wonder if he graduated highschool??

Ralph   February 16th, 2008 - 6:24 am

Considering the source I consider that a compliment.

Dan   February 16th, 2008 - 6:25 am

Tell me again why we are being lectured by a college dropout? Charles, shut your hole and stop being such a blowhard.

Chris   February 16th, 2008 - 6:26 am

Obviously Barkley is no genius. But his comments are directed at conservative politicians, not the general public. And you all may not want to hear it, but on the gay marriage issue he is right; if you think Jesus would be against gays being afforded the same rights as everyone else, or that stopping them from marrying should be one of the top priorities of any politician, party, or government, then you certainly deserve to be called a fake Christian, and probably much worse.

JB   February 16th, 2008 - 6:30 am

Ahhh yes – the never ending liberal “mis”quote of their favorite line of scripture about “judge not”.

Of course they LOVE to take this line (taken out of context) and throw it around as “absolute truth” and their interpretation means “anything goes”.

Here is another thought for you to ponder – listen to what they present this “argument” against – it ALWAYS is about some sort of sexual BEHAVIOR.

Jim   February 16th, 2008 - 6:30 am

The guy can’t make a rational sentence. His inflated ego has led him to think he really has an idea about what is right and wrong… I have listened to this idiot on TV and wondered how in the heck the network keeps him. His judgment of conservatives is ridiculous, as ridiculous as he is. Charles? Come talk to me when you can put together a coherent thought. And try reading up on Christianity before you judge any one of us, that always helps when you want to make a point. The only reason you were interviewed was because you are a clown, and it is funny to hear how seriously you take yourself. Ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the laugh.

J.W.   February 16th, 2008 - 6:34 am

I was unaware the Bible taught that infanticide and sodomy were okay. Thanks for the theology lecture, Chuck.

Mada   February 16th, 2008 - 6:36 am

Adam,

“christian republicans give more money to charity than any other voting block in this country”

While this may technically be true, giving money to ones own religion isn’t exactly a selfless charitable act.

Brian   February 16th, 2008 - 6:52 am

Barkley is an idiot. It’s amazing how far incredibly stupid people can get in this world on some idiosyncratic skill (in his case, putting a ball through a hoop). I can’t believe CNN even bothers to quiz him about his views. Who cares what he thinks! If it doesn’t involve guys running up and down a court bouncing a ball, Charles should really blush at opening his mouth and commenting on anything else. I think the average high school student is more intelligent, honestly.

Robert Martin   February 16th, 2008 - 6:54 am

Idiot. He says conservatives are judgmental and shouldn’t be, yet he’s simultaneously judging them by calling them fake! Utter hypocrisy, but he’s too ignorant to understand. Conservatives can’t judge, but he can! What an intellect.

Denise   February 16th, 2008 - 6:56 am

I’ll bet you I get even sicker every time Charles opens his mouth on any subject other than basketball;and sometimes even then.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 6:56 am

Well now! another communist/socialist heard from!!!! what the heck does either have anything to do with the other and where does a socialist dem/commy get off saying that,just because as a child the dems gave him hand outs for his mothers vote????? i wonder.
lets see
vote for me and i will give u welfare,handouts. taken from the middleclass….
think about the differences between socialism,communisum and the dem party. very blurry if any difference at all….
steal from the rich and middle class and give to the poor LOWER class. sounds like commies to me….

Michael   February 16th, 2008 - 6:59 am

Getting a tad defensive out there. Whatever happened to turning the other cheek? Spewing venom at Barkley just proves his point.

There are decent Christians and jerk Christians; decent conservatives and jerks; same goes for jocks and liberals. Nothing new about that.

Read and believe in the Sermon on the Mount.

ron madson   February 16th, 2008 - 7:01 am

I enjoy Charles on TNT. However, I wonder if the irony of his calling Christian Conservative hypocrites because they JUDGE other people when he sweepingly judges them. I wonder how much introspection he is capable of given these comments and the obvious lack of nuanced thought.

fg61   February 16th, 2008 - 7:02 am

I think we need to hhhhock up a vote for Charlie. The dolt should be go back to the card table. He was an idiot in the NBA. He was an idiot in prod casting games. It’s good to see that some things never change. The only votes he should get are yellow dog Democrats. If you look closer on his his forehead you can make out the “L” on it. What a MORON!

Carl   February 16th, 2008 - 7:07 am

I always get amused at people like Mr Barkley who call some people fake christians,then in their next breath they condones the killing of millions of babies.

Gary Boettner   February 16th, 2008 - 7:07 am

Another poter child for the Democratic Party.

Poor Barkley shows his ignorace and stupidity for all to see.

Unfortunately, he does show how successful the liberals have become in dumbing down this country.

Regardless of how one feels about Christianity, all should look at the ten commandments and recognize how these simple rules helped to breate civilized society.

Living Berkley’s world, there are no judgements, no responsibility and little too look forward to when the strong take over.

His ignorance is sad yet dangerous to a civilizaion.

Scott   February 16th, 2008 - 7:11 am

The real story here is that Charles is not too bright of a guy. To say that conservatives are all fake Christians is a stereotype and shows how uninformed Barkley is. Now that being a professional ball player is the left’s criteria for holding political office, they should at least elect someone who can manage to win a ring.

LMAO!   February 16th, 2008 - 7:18 am

Barlely needs “ta git more schoolin befo hes tries ta be the govner”.

He made me feel rather sick listening to such an uneducated idiot. Ever notice how all these left wing liberals whine about being judgemental while they ae being judgemental? More proof that iberalism IS a mental illness.

Dakota   February 16th, 2008 - 7:23 am

Barkley is about as dumb as a post. Remind me never to move to Alabama….it will most likely go the way of Detroit and Michigan as a whole if he is voted into office. Liberals don’t know how money is made, so they have no concept of how to manage it. They just think it is there to spend….and have no qualms about giving it freely to people who didn’t earn it. That is what is screwing up this country…Democrats and Republicans alike. Barkley wouldn’t know a Conservative if it bit him in the butt.

Georgia   February 16th, 2008 - 7:28 am

Fakes?Maybe, but closer by far than the white towel, shaman naysayers.

null   February 16th, 2008 - 7:30 am

This guy is a fake sports “star”. See how easy it is to say that sort of thing?

Anyone who forms their political thinking based on the prejudices of sports personalities or entertainers will inevitably come up with an empty sack. If only Britney Spears would tell them all not to vote, we might get sensible people into office.

J.D.   February 16th, 2008 - 7:35 am

Killing Babies, Gay Sex, Name Calling = good
Saying these things are wrong = unChristian

In truth, his policies don’t matter. If he says he’s for “change” and “hope” he’ll be elected by a landslide.

mj   February 16th, 2008 - 7:39 am

SO TRUE.
Barkley tells it like it is……and I agree wholeheartedly!

Scott   February 16th, 2008 - 7:41 am

This from a buffoon who says that professional ball players are not role models and intentionally spits on a little girl trying to enjoy a basketball game.

John G   February 16th, 2008 - 7:53 am

Sir Charles has now left the building.

If we are to take him literally, we can then apply his logic the other way around. To be a “real Christian” one must approve of sex between men or women and must also approve of ending a pregnancy at any time and for any reason. He may not have actually said this, though it is implied.

Charles will be interesting if he does run and that’s all. He lacks substance and will not excite the voters as Obama has. His commentary should be left to what he knows best, basketball.

As a consevative Christian I find his comments to be insulting but not completely out of character. He’ll ruffle a few feathers but few will take him seriously.

John   February 16th, 2008 - 7:56 am

Lets see if I understand this, we kill about One million babies a year which he thinks is good, and
Conservatives are fake Christians.

If we learned one thing,we can fix just about everything except being stupid.

elrushbo   February 16th, 2008 - 7:57 am

Last I heard Barkley & Rush were tight! What happened?

UNCLE GUS   February 16th, 2008 - 7:59 am

If I didn’t know any better, I wouldn’t @ all be suprised if BILL + HILLARY CLINTON put Chubby Chetie up to these foolish remarks ! I bet the BARACK OBAMA campaign team is just thrilled w/ this development ….

Nick   February 16th, 2008 - 8:01 am

This dimwitted has been jock says that conservatives shouldn’t judge other people….yet he’s calling them fake Christians….and now he’s judging them!!!!

Another celebrity douchebag. He has no idea what’s in store for him.

Sharon   February 16th, 2008 - 8:03 am

While you certainly can’t lump all conservatives into the same category, Mr. Barkley is correct in stating that a great many conservatives who tout their christianity are hypocritical as they pick and choose sections of the Bible to fit their needs and a great many of them are vehement in their hatred toward people that don’t fit their mold.

On the other hand I know some wonderful conservative Christians as well, who feel that the only person who can stand in judgement of another is GOD and that while they may hate some of the sins they don’t hate the sinner.

That being said there are extremists in every group not just conservatives Christian groups.

johnnydemocrat   February 16th, 2008 - 8:11 am

Of course a pro basketball player is pro choice. They cant keep up with how many kids they have now. “I aint sayin shes a golddigger” can be his campaign song

Reg   February 16th, 2008 - 8:12 am

I know it may be hard for some of you to follow Charles, but he did not say Christians. His exact words were ” Fake Christians “. There is a difference. It it my belief that individuals most upset about his comments fall into the classification of fake christians. Let me give you an example. A guy dresses in a policemen’s uniform. Does that make him a cop? No, neither is calling someone a fake cop a insult to real cops. Charles is directing his fake christian reference to the likes of Larry Craig and Mark Foley who enagage in homosexual activity in private and stand before the public and condemn homosexuality. Hypocracy at its finest.

Nathan   February 16th, 2008 - 8:14 am

Poor Charles. I think all the real Christians should say a little prayer for him tonight. Say one for the USA while you’re at it.

Mike Lamb   February 16th, 2008 - 8:20 am

WOW, Chuck and Obama are poised to set back blacks for good with foolishness like this. Barkley is as basic as they come, and once Obama gets crushed with the pressure of the office, should he reach it, blacks will be done for another 100 years. I wonder if your fake if your a Dem.Christian?

drlabon   February 16th, 2008 - 8:20 am

What??? Another black male athlete who hates white people. Perhaps he can go to Africa and run for President of South Africa in 2009 where he can help carry out and continue the policy of stealing land and murdering white farmers in the New South Africa.

These black racists are sickening and are always the biggest hypocrites.

Calirangr   February 16th, 2008 - 8:29 am

Political/social advice from Charles Barkley? Please…give me a break. That’s like taking medical advice from your taxi driver. Yes, I know..there’s a teeny, tiny chance that your driver ‘was’ a displaced physician from southern Schwabovia or Makalaka….or someplace like that, but truly, what’re the chances? And even if he/she ‘was’ a former physician, would you let him do surgery on you in the back of car 54? Not me! But you go ahead if you want. You too Charles. I’ll stick w/ competence if that’s OK with you all. Consequently, I don’t take advice from, or listen to, guys like Sir Charles. I also don’t take advice from Barak Obama, though I ‘do’ listen to him. Good orator. Empty suit. Won’t vote for him. I fear that many Americans will buy the facade of politicians rather than focus on the facts of their competence. Kinda like buying a Porsche w/ a blown engine. Looks good sitting in your driveway, but is all show and no go on the highway. As for me, I was a Romney guy despite his flip flops. Now I’m a McCain guy ’cause at least he has ’some’ track record.

Robert Smith   February 16th, 2008 - 8:35 am

This individual is entitled to his opinion, but let’s consider it in the light of his accomplishments.

1) able to run and throw a rubber ball through a metal ring.

2) able to spend money extravagantly

I can’t think of anything else.

A lib, socialist, or democrat would consider these to be be major qualifiers to speak authoritatively on subjects about which someone like Barkley knows little to nothing. Just look at the BS clinton and obama throw out to their uninformed followers.

AvgDude   February 16th, 2008 - 8:36 am

Barkley is an ass and has always been an ass, even before he was a fat slob and a worthless has-been. If he were white, he would have been called out on his stupidity and obnoxiousness by the press a long time ago and properly shunned for it. When he says, “conservative”, it’s just a code word for “white”. And everyone knows that blacks are allowed to practice racism against whites with utter impunity.

Barkley’s political discourse is about as slick as his golf swing.

Pat Horne   February 16th, 2008 - 8:39 am

Coming from a racist womanizer with a horribly foul mouth, it’s more comical than anything else. This is a person who has little understanding of conservatism, and apparently nothing of The Christ himself.

Iggy   February 16th, 2008 - 8:42 am

Blah, blah, blah…..Does anyone with any amount of intelligence even care what this guy has to say? Good grief…he sure sounds stupid, and his verbiage proves it. Go back to analyzing basketball games. I’m so sick of these celebrities who think the general population really cares what they think. They use their fame as a platform and it’s getting so, so old. Madonna, Babs, Rosie, Oprah, Alec, Ravolta, Clooney….now Barkley…..bunch of liberal lemmings.

Dennis D   February 16th, 2008 - 8:44 am

Barkley says is will vote Democrat no matter what. No Chit Sherlock. Look in a mirror. Of course we know you are an automatic sheep voter.

Watching a so called Christian Church like the Obama church made Anti Semite Louis Farrakhan its MAN of the Year? Now that makes me sick to my stomach.

Shemp   February 16th, 2008 - 8:49 am

Was that Sir Barkley “judging” conservatives? Who is a hypocrite????

No more democrats   February 16th, 2008 - 9:02 am

The Bible never says not to judge. The verse this moron is referring to is about hypocrisy. To paraphrase the verse, don’t judge someone if you are doing the same thing. Because you will be judged by the same standard.

The Bible is full of advising Christians to judge and full of examples of Christians and Jews judging peoples character. But if you have sin in your life (a log inyour eye), you better take care of it before you judge or criticize the others (remove the spliter from their eye).

The reason people misquote this verse is because people don’t like to hear they are sinners, so they twist Jesus’ words.

Jay   February 16th, 2008 - 9:03 am

Charles is the same guy who gave a radio commentator an argument because he was reading “lies” about Charles. Problem was, it was text directly from Barkley’s autobiography. That’s right, Barkely was telling the radio guy that he was lying about him as he read directly from the book.

If there’s anyone who is a knucklehead, it’s Barkely

Kim   February 16th, 2008 - 9:04 am

Charles is right, to a point. Jesus didn’t want you to worship him, he wanted you to be like him. Jesus wouldn’t let people go hungry. Jesus wouldn’t let people remain sick simply because they lacked insurance. Jesus wouldn’t have a million dollar house and drive a Hummer. Jesus wouldn’t put the greed of rich corporations above the needs of the people. Jesus was a socialist. So to say we are a Christian nation is ludicrous. We are a Christian nation in title only.

Jackson   February 16th, 2008 - 9:07 am

Like most biblical illiterates, Barkley fails to mention that in Matthew 7, Christ is condemning hypocrisy, not judgment. The Logos incarnate knew, of course, that man hardly live a waking moment without judgment. Barkley also conveniently fails to mention John 7:24 and 1 Corinthians 2:15. Typical.

Also, I wonder if Barkley sees any hint of the tremendous irony in his purported occupation of the moral high ground alongside his endorsement of today’s culture of death. Truly, the principle of contradiction has been repealed. So does our dictatorship of relativism.

mike   February 16th, 2008 - 9:08 am

Did’nt even read the article…went straight
to the comment…why bother….when any
great sport figure makes a social comment
i take it as the gospel..who wouldn’t.Can’t
wait to hear Eli’s take on the whole situation.

forrestG   February 16th, 2008 - 9:09 am

Barkley will vote as his tribe always votes. He never left the plantation. They never left the plantation, and thankfully will be subsumed by the flood of illegals. Blacks do not count for anything more than another group for the Marxist Dems to manipulate and use as their field hands.

Glenn T   February 16th, 2008 - 9:10 am

I just love the Liberal cause of “Pro Choice”. Do they ever ask the unborn about their choice. Liberal: “Ok, now would you like to be born or have your skull split open and your brains sucked out?”

Chris L.   February 16th, 2008 - 9:11 am

He’s judging others while telling us not to judge one another! ‘Who are you to judge’ is itself a judgment.

Pete   February 16th, 2008 - 9:11 am

Charles should’nt wait to run for Governor of Alabama…he should consider residing in NYS now. It would complete the ever growing list of Morons living in the Empire State. Sharpton, Hillary,Bill,Chuck S., M.Hinchey, S.Silver,
Cuomo(s), Spitzer,Bloomberg and others continue to develop an Unionized Liberal Welfare State of misguided idiots.
If Charles needs work I’m sure he could work for the Knicks…..or he could reside here for a week
to quailify for Welfare.

Jackson   February 16th, 2008 - 9:15 am

Wisdom and goodness to the vile seem vile;
Filths savor but themselves.

-Shakespeare, King Lear

O age, thou art shamed.

-Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

O shame, where is thy blush?

-Shakespeare, Hamlet

O wonder! How many goodly creatures are there here! How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world: That hath such people in’t!

-Shakespeare, The Tempest

deroy   February 16th, 2008 - 9:17 am

if ol’ chuck is for abortion, why didn’t he abort his daughter.

if he’s for gay marriage why doesn’t he marry ernie johnson?

i like chuck as a commentator on basketball but outside that he showed bad taste in interviewing with the dwarf wolfie.

but he really comes across as dumb. he better watch himself buying a house in AL but actually living in AZ.

plus he just alienated half the voters in alabama.

Lucas   February 16th, 2008 - 9:18 am

He has really shown his ignorance on this one! Yes, Christians are to forgive as Jesus has forgiven us. Forgiveness is a two way street. Forgiveness comes when you decide to stop following your own desires and you follow what the Bible teaches! Plus, since when are Christians suppose to roll over and compromise the principles of the Bible. Charles I hope you do run in 2014, with your IQ it you will be easily defeated!

TexasTiger   February 16th, 2008 - 9:21 am

“Every time I hear the word ‘conservative’ it makes me sick to my stomach.”

Judging by the size of Barkley’s gut, either:

A) He has never heard the word ‘conservative’ or

B) He’s lying and every time he hears the word ‘conservative,’ he has a BigMac…with cheese.

Agnitio Veridicus   February 16th, 2008 - 9:23 am

Matthew 25:31-46 says it all. Charles is right, most so-called Christian Conservatives are hypocrites. Jesus clearly says so. Match up what Jesus says with their actions, and the situation is clear.

Jerry B   February 16th, 2008 - 9:24 am

Idiot. Typical liberal. All talk, no thought.
Whatever electorate votes him as governor deserve what they get.

DavidJM   February 16th, 2008 - 9:25 am

Transgression speaks to the ungodly within his heart; There is no fear of God before his eyes. For it flatters him in his own eyes concerning the discovery of his iniquity and the hatred of it. The words of his mouth are wickedness and deceit; He has ceased to be wise and to do good. He plans wickedness upon his bed; he sets himself on a path that is not good; He does not despise evil. Your lovingkindness, O Lord, extends to the heavens, Your faithfulness reaches to the skies. Jesus Christ said “there is no one good but God.” Jesus was God in the flesh, come here to redeem sinful man. He is good, we are not. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal lifr through Jesus christ our Lord. God hates sin, but will forgive sinners, because Jesus paid our sin debt on the cross. Salvation is a free gift, all you have to do is provide the sinner. Most will never turn to God and say “God I am a sinner and worthy of judgement and hell, please be merciful to me. I trust Jesus for salvation.” If you make that turn God will say “enter into my rest.”

eagle1   February 16th, 2008 - 9:28 am

It is a proven fact that Republicans make donations in far greater amounts than Liberals. Liberals are only good at spending other peoples money.

Charles Barkley is an idiot. He says not to judge, but what the heck does he think he is doing. He who is without sin, throw the first stone. Amazing ignorance.

Let'sBeReal   February 16th, 2008 - 9:32 am

Let’s focus on what’s the central point here. The life of a child. According to Barkley’s logic (as well as for several other morons postings here) “Real Christians” shouldn’t want to do anything to protect a child from a pedophile either. I’ll bet Charles doesn’t really believe that, but his inept ramblings without prior thought support just that. Barkley clarifies his point is “don’t judge others” right? Wolfe even asks him if he’s sure he wants to say what he has… Barkley still hasn’t got a clue because he’s obviously an ignorant party line liberal. You simply cannot be a Christian or a civilized person for that matter if you support the death of child (by any means). Do you hear anyone talking about the baby’s body? I hear plenty about a woman’s right to her own.

Jesus4America   February 16th, 2008 - 9:32 am

Amen Brother. Finally somebody speaking the Truth. The Right Wing Conservative Christians leave every child behind, have lots of gay sex, could care less about the poor, and love to go kill people. WWJD, LOL. What Charles failed to mention is that Jesus never said ONE THING in the bible pro or con about homosexuals. Look it up. Amen Bro.

matt   February 16th, 2008 - 9:37 am

I guess Charles is fed up with mouthing (f-bombs galore) off at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas after losing another $700,000 at BlackJack in one weekend.
Must be he needs another avenue to spout off at!

Will   February 16th, 2008 - 9:39 am

Christians are not to take God’s vengeance and execute it themselves. They are not to usurp God’s authority to determine someone’s eternal destiny when only God can judge the heart. However, Christians are to discern between good and evil and proclaim the truth in God’s Word to all people.

God Word says “Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. ~1 Corinthians 6:9-10

The good news is that the very next verse reminds us that many Christians were the same, but we were forgiven, cleansed and pronounced righteous in Christ Jesus our Lord. This forgiveness is available to ANYONE who will humble themselves before God and call on the name of Jesus.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. ~1 Corinthians 2:14-15

Russell   February 16th, 2008 - 9:40 am

The ironic thing is, he doesn’t realize that he’s being judgmental himself.

Franklin   February 16th, 2008 - 9:41 am

Hey Barkley; put down that buffet fork and
listen up….you are STUPID (or, as my grandfather used to say’he ain’t quite UP to stupid yet’)…Call
me at 801.775.5791 so that I can come over
and kick your a$$…

Gerry   February 16th, 2008 - 9:44 am

That’s a pretty judgemental statement….He must be a fake Christian.

Y.T. Moderate   February 16th, 2008 - 9:45 am

Barkley was a great athlete. That being said, he’s just saying this for the spotlight and attention. He should stick with his talents, and keep his trap shut.

POP   February 16th, 2008 - 9:47 am

After the many racist comments that Barkley has mad over the years. I can see THESE comments come from his hate. Noone ever said that being Christian and conservative, or vise versa are synonymous, but evidently in Chuck’s world they are. Regardless of what you think about ANY political party, this type of hateful, devisive rhetoric is what is tearing the country apart. What an idiot.

james   February 16th, 2008 - 9:49 am

barkley go work on your golf swing and read the bible because you sure don,t know what you are talking about.

Peacemaker   February 16th, 2008 - 9:53 am

Charles Barkley is entirely ignorant of Christianity.

God told us there is a time for war—–to protect the innocent from murder. Not the kind of murder that radical/liberal aspirants
prevaricate about to fool the unstable in order to gain power, but of wilfull slaughter of the populace. It is a sin to stay out of this
heroic warfare.

There has never been a more carefully fought war, and a successfully fought war with greater concern for the safety of the citzens. They
were spared during the delicate surgery to remove their murderer.

He falsely assumes that Jesus was a hippie who walked around giddy and smiling, smoking marijuana. Jesus, in reality, will be the most
horrendous warrior the earth has ever known, as he incinerates his enemies on his return. He first came to earth to let everyone know
how to get out of the way; to cooperate with sanity, because he has to remove from the earth people like yourself who profess with lies, his
intent for “peace”.

There is no doubt that you would support the wars in the mideast if they had originated by your side. How do I know? Because in 1998
Presiden Clinton, in a nationwide address, advised the people of his intent to remove Saddam and place a democratic government in his
place. You democrats applauded until your hands were raw. You hoped we would forget that, but, as President Bush implemented the Clinton
war plan, your lust for power for your side couldn’t have support for Republicans.

What it is the democrats lust for power greatly enough to lie terribly about the innocent, is for the purpose of influencing the legislature into accepting irresponsible and inconsiderate lifestyles as the norm, and at the right time to make the laws necessary to make morality illegal in the United States. This would get the cops off their backs—–regardless of society—–and everyone could thereafter fend for themselves: The very definition of an ungoverned people; the destroying of ours or any constitution.

fred   February 16th, 2008 - 9:59 am

ah, here comes the word from a NBA drug addicit and fornicator preaching about morality and Christian vaulues.

Harpo   February 16th, 2008 - 9:59 am

Leave it to CNN for putting a dumb jock on the TV, and trying to make him out to be some sort of political analyst. I loved Charles as a player, and as a basketball analyst, he brings a good energy to the coverage, but Charles, just stick to sports.

Oh, and Charles, if you are a Christian, how can you support the killing of babies in the womb? Talk about hypocritical!

Jewbie   February 16th, 2008 - 10:00 am

I’ve met Charles, and spent some time talking with him. He’s actually well-spoken and quite intelligent. He’ll say things that you don’t like, but at least he’s genuine in telling you what he believes. The same can’t be said of most of our politicians, on EITHER side.

As to gay marriage, I personally believe that it isn’t the government’s place to sanction ANY marriage. Marriage is, and has ALWAYS been, a religious ceremony, not civil. I disagree with Barkley on abortion because I believe that it is a life, not a “choice.” That makes it a murder argument, not a religious argument.

As to Christians being “fake,” some are and some are not. To an extent, we are all “fake” in our religious beliefs. I am Jewish, yet I don’t go to synagogue often, I eat pork (mmm…ribs) and shellfish, and I work on Saturdays. My Muslim friends (yes, I have them) don’t try to convert all the non-believers, and some of them eat non-Halal meat. Kennedy clan members get divorces that aren’t allowed in the Catholic Church, and support positions that aren’t consistent with their beliefs. I’ve also seen PLENTY of conservative Baptists coming out of Kroger with beer. I see almost EVERYONE, of all faiths, working on their Sabbath Day, using G-d’s name in vain, and not tithing the proper amounts required by their religions. I would argue that very few, if any of us, live our faiths to the letter.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. We are allowed to judge man’s action against other man. We are NOT allowed to judge man’s action with G-d. That’s a little above our pay grade on this planet.

Edward Scissorhands   February 16th, 2008 - 10:01 am

What an IDIOT!
He sounds like he’d be more in his element as a guest on The Jerry Springer Show.

TommyC   February 16th, 2008 - 10:01 am

Can I please bring something to everyone’s attention; THIS IS CHARLES BARKLEY! Perhpas Wolf Blitzer, in his next groundbreaking interview, can ask Pac Man Jones what his feelings are on conservatives. The fact that I am actually reading responses from liberals agreeing with this non-sensical blabber is actually exciting to me. You should convince Hillary to make Barkley her running mate. Better yet, how about an Obama – Barkley ticket. A well spoken white guy who has no platform and a half retarded black guy. Seems like the perfect ticket for you libs.

Can we please get a grip on reality here. There are actually real issues that our country is dealing with.

Jose Padilla   February 16th, 2008 - 10:01 am

Charles isn’t anything but a blow hard ginner—

Dan from Dayton   February 16th, 2008 - 10:04 am

Yo Charles, you might want to look at a diet book or two before you run for office, The last fat guy who won anything was Taft, and that was a while ago.

As for the “substance” of what Charles is saying, he’s just a little too predictable for me. Let’s see, CNN letting a minority rip into Christians and the Republican Party. Why is anyone surprised? What did we really expect him to say, that he was upset that Romney had dropped out of the race because he was the standard bearer for all Charles finds holy?
The facts are that the vast majority of blacks, perhaps as many as 98%, will vote for Obama if he should be the democratic candidate. But most will not vote for Hillary if she should be nominated, as many will just stay home on election day. (What I do like about Barkley is that he is smart enough to understand that.) Conversely, should Obama get the nod, many dems will also feel disenfranchised because they have a candidate that has little real experience and does not reflect their views. I have to admit that I am enjoying watching the democrats throw away a real chance to win the White House.

gene   February 16th, 2008 - 10:06 am

We should get rid of the Christian right and substitute the non-religious left, the Liberal democrats.

We know what the religious right stands for but many have forgotten what the non-religious left stands for. The communists were non-religious. They were avowed atheists.

Just look at the number of people killed by non-religous communist governments.
* 20 million in the Soviet Union
* 65 million in the People’s Republic of China
* 1 million in Vietnam
* 2 million in North Korea
* 2 million in Cambodia
* 1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
* 150,000 in Latin America
* 1.7 million in Africa
* 1.5 million in Afghanistan
* 10,000 deaths “resulting from actions of the international communist movement and communist parties not in power.”

Communist regimes, non-religous, atheistic, are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement, including Nazism.

BarkleyIsaTool   February 16th, 2008 - 10:10 am

Quote: “Christians dey not suppoze to be….dey not suppoze to judge odtha people, but dey are the most hippacritcal judge of people we have in dis country.”

First, nice statement. Very well structured.

Second, aren’t you being a little prejudice Charles by assuming 1/2 the people in the country are fake christians without even knowing them. Some future leader.

Go shove a referee somewhere Charles. It’s what you do best you tool.

JD   February 16th, 2008 - 10:10 am

Barkley belongs in a circus sideshow.

vitamin   February 16th, 2008 - 10:12 am

I have never in my life seen anybody as ignorant as mr barkley, and I live in California…..

Gene   February 16th, 2008 - 10:14 am

We should get rid of the religious right and bring back the liberal left. Non-religious people have a great record. Look at the communists. The were non-religious and atheists. Since many may have forgotten but here is the non-religious lefts record of deaths.

* 20 million in the Soviet Union
* 65 million in the People’s Republic of China
* 1 million in Vietnam
* 2 million in North Korea
* 2 million in Cambodia
* 1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
* 150,000 in Latin America
* 1.7 million in Africa
* 1.5 million in Afghanistan
* 10,000 deaths “resulting from actions of the international communist movement and communist parties not in power.”(p. 4)

It explicitly states that Communist regimes are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement, including Nazism.

john   February 16th, 2008 - 10:15 am

Sir Charles makes the same illogical and uneducated conclusion that most liberals make, that being all conservatives are Christians; does it then follow that all Christians are conservatives? Clearly it does not. Conservatives simply do not feel that the government is to be the ultimate charitable institution; marriage is an institution that promotes the propogation and stability of society and thus should be protected and encouraged; that the religous implications of abortion should take the federal government out of its funding and support. Liberals however, in their usual emotional, emotive fashion, have been the hijackers of religion and government. They have succeeded in incorporating their concepts of religion (charity, equality, marriage, corporal punishment, etc.) into government institutions, engineered legislation and orchestrated political movements to provide and protect same, and then in the ultimate irony, proceed to eliminate any trace of the origins (i.e. Christ) of these concepts they supposedly cherish. Indeed, the ultimate result of the liberals’ “Christian” philosophy will be the dismantling of such liberal religious institutions and customs by those individuals and organizations that benefitted from their largesse- how appropriate.

LarryG   February 16th, 2008 - 10:17 am

Barkley wa a good ball player. As a commentator, he is a bust. About as much of a buffoon as Al Sharpton and the other bags of wind. Pathetic nitwit.

Tony   February 16th, 2008 - 10:19 am

As Sir Charles has so eloquently stated in his remarks here, I am to assume that he believes that anyone who dissagrees with him, if they are conservative and especially if they are Christian, then they are judging other people. I’m against gay marriage, so I’m judging gays, I’m against abortion, so I’m judging abortionists. I’m also against murder, rape, incest, and stealing, am I to assume with his 3rd grade logic that I’m judging murderers, rapists, incestuous acts, and thieves as well. Good luck in 2014 Charles, you’re the best thing that can happen to the Republican party in Alabama.

Chris   February 16th, 2008 - 10:21 am

You Democrats… You in my Fab 5…
You Conservatives… You make me sick… You not in my Fab 5…

goggled   February 16th, 2008 - 10:23 am

It is very telling to read the coments of the nasty, hate mongering republicans rearing their ugly souls. The very thought that a person, a black person, would actually challenge their hurtful, self centered, anti Christian stance on America has exposed the real insecurity that is their excuse for their zeal.
Why don’t they turn the other cheek? Why don’t they listen to Jesus instead of Pilate? When do they continue to crucify honest souls like Mr. Barley?
Go Charles!
We need more to speak out like you!
We are not here to condemn others.
Peace.

James   February 16th, 2008 - 10:23 am

He should just stick to being the TNT Clown that he’s become. Leave politics to the thinking people.

Just like most people, he is confusing individual responsibility with church responsibility. Jesus told the Jews(there were no Christians until after the Crucifixion that is why they referenced the law of Moses)not to judge because they all have fallen short of the glory of God and then he told the Adulterous woman, go and Sin no more. John 8

As usual, Liberals spout biblical references like sound bites. They always take them out of context to justify their immoral behavior. And Jesus warned us believers, “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first…” John 15:18

As for Mr. TNT Clown, I pity him.

Not Charles   February 16th, 2008 - 10:23 am

** One question Charles:

There has been a lot of race-baiting, race pandering, and such lately. What party has been doing that?

http://www.conservativemusiconline.com

Greg   February 16th, 2008 - 10:27 am

That’s OK. I think Charles Barkley is a fake basketball player. That makes about as much sense.

matt   February 16th, 2008 - 10:34 am

he thinks he’s going to get elected in the state of alabama with such an anti-christian message? maybe in new hampshire, but not in the bible belt.

Reaganminded   February 16th, 2008 - 10:35 am

What do you have to do to be a christian?….
spit on little 4 year old girls?

Pete   February 16th, 2008 - 10:36 am

Charles sterotyping of Christians, makes a good case for followinging Gov. Randal’s advice to white men “do not vote for black man”.

The Spartan   February 16th, 2008 - 10:36 am

Charles “Freaking” Barkley. He may not have been good enough to win a championship, but he’s certainly a great self-promoter. Too bad that what he’s promoting is an empty suit, just like the empty ideas of his chosen presidential candidate. Obama’s ideas would take us back to the 70’s. Fortunately the election’s shaping up to look like 1972. Keep up the promotion, Chucky. It’ll be fun voting for McCain.

George   February 16th, 2008 - 10:38 am

Please don’t stop this guy from talking. I thought it was the Republicans who are intellectually bankrupt?

Ish Kabbible   February 16th, 2008 - 10:41 am

It is important to be able to spot a “fake” Christian. I think that a theological seminary should hire Charles to spot “fake” Christians as they enter the campus. His talents are far too great to be wasted as Governor of Alabama. As a Marylander I am happy to know that Mr. Barkley has purchased a house in the great state of Alabama. I wish him and his neighbors much happiness and peace.

Will Bree   February 16th, 2008 - 10:44 am

Mr. Barkley has hit the nail squarely on the head. I consider myself republican and conservative and if gay folks want to marry or any woman other than my own wife wants an abortion, it’s simply none of my business. It’s not republican or consevative to want the Federal Government involved in the most private and personal aspects of peoples lives. They have bigger fish to fry. Anyone interested in our economy or national defense anymore?

matt   February 16th, 2008 - 10:44 am

Who listens to milk dud head anyway!!I say lets end world hunger and barbaque the fat slob.To think Rush use to have him on his show!! Ehhh

johnboy   February 16th, 2008 - 10:46 am

“Why would any black person in this country support the GOP, whether youre a famous athlete or not. The GOP has hi-jacked religion to shove it’s ideals down our throats. Is it more Christian to oppose abortion than it is to support a war that has killed 300,000+ INNOCENT women and children? Would Jesus ever use the words “collateral damage” when discussing these deaths?”

Stop getting your facts from the liberal nutjobs. And what does any of this have to do with being black?

Kevin   February 16th, 2008 - 10:46 am

What a lunkhead. Please stick with basketball, Chuck where it’s amusing to listen to your mangled syntax and nonsensical commentary. Hmmmm….come to think of it, you will find a home in the Democratic Party.

Judas Christmas   February 16th, 2008 - 10:50 am

Hey Lee, thanks for the bible class! No need to quote further, I’ve read the thing too. Very scary stuff! One question: how many hit points does Satan have? It’s nice to see that Jesus’ lesson of having empathy for one’s neighbor was lost on you; enjoy your chuckle in the clouds while i toast my toes in that lake of fire, you self-satisfied evangelical. I’m fine with that.

I wonder if it bothers you “true christians” that you have so many barely literate racists in your camp. It kind of sullies your message, don’t you think? “Love thy neighbor” or something like that. Read it in a book.

Your “god” as you describe him is more like a vengeful baby. Who can do magic tricks.

Chuck's Right   February 16th, 2008 - 10:54 am

Why is Charles correct in his statement. Because the moral majority in here has just proved what he said. I didn’t even see in one post where someone said they forgive Charles for what he said and how he acts. Just a bunch of judgments from scared people. Many in here have even let Charles know that he’s going to hell. How do you know you freakin idiot??? Shut up you fake christians and go pray for the guy instead of preying on the guy. Hypocrits!

TJ's Anti-contrarian Blog   February 16th, 2008 - 10:57 am

Charles Barkley says conservatives are “fake Christians” because they judge too much… yet he states this while judging Christians…huh?

Here, Chucky, Bible 101 for ya’:
PART 1 – LUKE 17:3: “Take heed… If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.”
– So, clearly Christians do speak out against someone who offends them.

And Chucky, here’s PART 2 and the finish to your partial quote:
MATTHEW 7:1-5:
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”

Ans so, my dear uninformed and pompous brother, judge not unless you are prepared to be judged. When it comes to abortion, I am prepared to be judged when compared to you.

Class dismissed.

roger   February 16th, 2008 - 10:58 am

Hey Jeff(see Jeff,feb. 15, 11:19 P.M.)
I looked in the mirror, and I did not hear any voices in my head, so I am a hypocrite? I suspect you and Mr. Barkley need some help in the thinking department,but I sure don’t want to “judge”

Valley Observer   February 16th, 2008 - 10:59 am

Breitbart News can always be counted on to print articles that send its drooling, ranting,Babble Belt readers into some kind of bigoted religious frenzy over a story that isn’t even newsworthy.Who cares what any celebrity has to say, right or left? It doesn’t take much to stir up the simple minds on the far right or the loons over on the left. You clowns can go empty your drool cups now; go read some passages from your Bible for Bozos and rant and pray to your fictitious sky god to strike down your enemies.

deroy   February 16th, 2008 - 10:59 am

is brother chuck a ‘gay american’?

hmmmmmm, maybe.

Enigma   February 16th, 2008 - 11:06 am

Uhh…Charles…Didn’t your daughter go to a private Catholic High School in North Scottsdale, AZ? Who’s the hypocrite now??

Mickey   February 16th, 2008 - 11:07 am

I used to think that Barkhole was an idiot. Now he’s proved it. Charles is as fake as they come, posing as something other than a stupid, or rather, very stupid ex-basketball player. The same stupidity that he shares with those that have agreed with him in this forum. As one of the states leading our nation in illiteracy, Sir Charles would feel right at home.

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 11:07 am

What an ignorant slob!

Why don’t you go SPIT ON A LITTLE GIRL… like you did here in the city of brotherly love?

I think he is a FAKE BLACK MAN!

GWB   February 16th, 2008 - 11:08 am

Three observations we can make from Charles comments:

1. Black man voting for a Black man. Whoopee doo. Nothing new there.

2. Black man voting for a democrat. Yeah, don’t they all?

3. Charles making a fool of himself–yet again.

Next question…

BlameHofmann   February 16th, 2008 - 11:10 am

Charles, stick to basketball. You are out of your league in the political realm.

JSJ   February 16th, 2008 - 11:18 am

Wow, a true expert on politics has spoken. “I’m gonna vote Democratic no matter what…” Now here’s someone who really puts a lot of thought into who should deserve a citizen’s vote. It’s good he knows how to run from the po po and play hoop, otherwise my conservative a** would be supporting him too along with the rest of the true phonies and the ignorant. The good hard working people from Alabama and the rest of the silent majority in this country must get to the poles in November and vote, after all there are a lot of idiots like Charles Barkley out there. Only on CNN, they have to be desperate for coverage.

Dr. harden Stuhl   February 16th, 2008 - 11:27 am

Barkley hates white people and yet he doesn’t hate them enough to take their ad money and sell them phones. What a hypocrite…

C.R.   February 16th, 2008 - 11:35 am

Pointing out sinful behavior as defined by The Bible which is God’s holy word is not being judgmental. If I point out a specific law in some city is that judgmental? No, this all an attempt to dismiss God and His laws as well as to marginalize Christians. You can dismiss or embrace sinful behavior all you want but it is still sinful and that won’t change no matter how hard people try.
By Barkley’s standard then doctors are also judgmental for pointing out illnesses.

Mike   February 16th, 2008 - 11:41 am

I am VERY conservative, but not particularly religious. But, I do NOT believe that I am a “fake Christian”, Mr Barkley.
Is Mr. Barkley trying to say that Liberals are REAL Christians? Or, is it possible to that being Christian and Conservative (or Liberal) are two mutually exclusive events?

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 11:46 am

Bret
Jesus would forgive the repentant homosexual and tell him to go and sin no more. Bret, do you know Jesus?

Lee   February 16th, 2008 - 11:49 am

Judas Christmas, you are who you claim you are. You have your reward with Satan, your Master and you will reap his end, the Lake of fire, burning in Hell forever. The day you face Jesus SOON! You will be crying and weaping and apologetic and Begging, begging, begging, when you see his face he will say. I never knew you! Flee from me you evil doer, as he casts you where you belong with your Master Satan! What a sight in that day, you are one Demon I would love to witness seeing being cast down into Hell! at that moment. Even Satan himself believes in God, as he quotes God’s own scripture to him when the Lord Jesus was sent out into the desert to be tempted by your master. Lord if you are hungry, why don’t your turn this rock into bread? The Lords’ reply. Get behind me Satan, for man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from God. Satan again, Jesus Let me take you to the highest mountain so you can throw yourself off of it, “for it is written, all the angels shall not allow your foot to stumble against a stone. Satan likes to quote scripture! Jesus reply, “it is also written Satan, do not test your God”! Even Satan believes in him, you fool! and he knows his end is near, and he is fighting fiercely each day to take as many of you as he can, for his time is short. You know Judas Christmas…”Get behind me Satan, you are a stumbling block to me, you do not have in mind the things of god, but the things of men”! It is also written, Matthew 16:23.! Even the Pigs knew they did’t want any of you Demons in them,. that’s why they ran and jumped off the cliff to kill themselves as fast they could, when Jesus cast you out of Legion and threw you into the pigs! So bye, bye Demon Judas Christmas! I will not be seeing you in Heaven! We will all have a good laugh on you in that day!

Steve   February 16th, 2008 - 11:54 am

Everytime you move your mouth Barkley, you remind me of what you’re not. An intellectual giant. Doesn’t matter what your politcal affiliation is moron, it has nothing to do with your Christian beliefs. So please hurry and throw-up and maybe the political “gene-pool” will be erratticated of fools such as you…

Sir Charles   February 16th, 2008 - 11:55 am

WOW! What an IDIOT!

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 11:57 am

Robert Smith -

You forgot Sir Charles other accomplishment:

Spits at heckling fan – oops misses, hits little girl!

“Every time I hear the name “Charles Barkley”, it makes me sick to my stomach!

Bill D   February 16th, 2008 - 11:58 am

How does one even begin to respond to such ignorance?

Straco   February 16th, 2008 - 12:03 pm

I have really enjoyed watching you on TNT in the past. Some of your insight into basketball has been enjoyable but your comments above are just plain ignorant. You are willing to judge an entire groupe for being judgmental? What is that all about? And how are you going to be able to vote with both Hillary and Barack claiming to be Christians? Sorry, I forgot, they are Liberal Christians who believe in abortion and gay marriage which are against the teachings of Christ vs. the hypocrital Christians who believe in the teachings of Christ. Now I understand.

Eric Frederick   February 16th, 2008 - 12:03 pm

Who cares what this Fat Pig has to say.

Way to paint with a broad brush dumbass!

Jill   February 16th, 2008 - 12:04 pm

He must call Jesus Christ a “fake Christian” too then. Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery, “Go away and sin no more” NOT “Go away and sin all you want.” Any sex except that within the vows and bounds of marriage is sinful to God. Look it up, Charles Barkley. Do you ever actually read your Bible, or rather do you take one text out of context and privately interpret?

Plus what did Jesus say about anyone who would hurt a child? (abortion counts as hurt). “It would be better for such a person to have a millstone put around his neck and that he be thrown into the depths of the sea.” That’s CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD HURT A CHILD.

Barkley is an idiot. There is no way Jesus would condone homosexuality, whether in a “marriage” or not, or the murder of innocent unborn babies.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 12:06 pm

Bret
Jesus would forgive the repentant homosexual but would not condone the practice of homosexuality under any circumstances. Jesus taught that He did not come to take 1 jot from the law of YHWH, but to fulfill it. That doesnt mean jesus did away with the commandments. ‘Thou shalt not lie with man as with woman’ is very clear for it perverts YHWHS natural law and order and will. As far as your so called ‘Christian conservative movement damaging the country’, let me point out to you that the liberal secular movement who teaches that human life is not sacred,and can be disposed of on a whim in the name of convenience or personal irresponsibility has in time hurt society. Homosexual practices being taught in schools as an alternative choice for youngsters, as well as liberl media outlets condoning homosexuality as if it were on equal par to heterosexuality .I see liberal mandates such as ‘affirmative action’ the ultimate in rascism. Bret, why not give pedophiles their rights to have sex with children? dont they have rights too? well you say ‘its against the law to have sex with children’ I tell you that Sodomy was once against the law until it was nearly outlawed in almost every state. Bret, do you know Jesus?

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 12:07 pm

‘Liberalism is a mental disorder’ – Michael Savage

Kay Sterling   February 16th, 2008 - 12:09 pm

Charles, You are doing exactly what you criticize conservatives for doing.
Do you actually think the only “real” Christians are Democrats?
Good Luck in 2014, you are going to need it.

Chris   February 16th, 2008 - 12:17 pm

How much skill does it take to take one line in the bible, pull it out of context, distort its meaning and proclaim yourself to be a religious authority? I hope Sir Charles, great religious scholar that he apparently has become, will take a few minutes and show us the part of the bible where it says that murdering unborn children is ok.

I’ve never cared for Barkley, he was a petty, whiney crybaby on the court and it seems nothing has changed in all the years since he retired. I can’t wait for his run in Alabama where this interview can be brought back up to haunt him. He may not work for the conservetives but if he’s auditioning to work for the people of Alabama, he’s going to have to account for his actions and statements.

Kemo   February 16th, 2008 - 12:21 pm

My gosh. Charles has gone over to the dark side. Good luck on running for governor of Alabama in 2014. You’ll need it.

bsgram   February 16th, 2008 - 12:24 pm

As a devout Catholic Conservative and sports fan, I was very disappointed to hear Mr. Barkley’s comments. Sunday morning I will pray for him. It is frustrating when non-Christians cherry pick the Bible for quotes to be used against us. As for his comments about judging, it is true. We as Christian shall not be hypocrites.
Matthew 7:2:
For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged.
The Bible also says:
John 8:11:
And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more.
The Key phrase being “Sin No More.”
It is true Christians do struggle with sin and stumble; fall far from being perfect. Satan does lurk behind every corner, and loves it when we do fall. But as I am struggling through this life, I can NOT rightly call myself a Christian, if I do not also try help my fellow man who is about to fall off the cliff.

Spence   February 16th, 2008 - 12:24 pm

The reason people don’t like the word “conservatives” is because if you are not one, you always lose the argument to them!! Why else would liberals stop calling themselves liberals and now call themselves “progressive”! When it comes to stripping away the namecalling and catch phrases, fact for fact liberalism fails and conservatives win. It’s history…but what a great country anyway!!

useyourhead   February 16th, 2008 - 12:25 pm

“I don’t believe he [Jesus] would be embracing the death penalty if he were here today.”George W Bush (from No Spin Zone by Bill O’Reilly, p. 102)

George W. Bush during his six years as governor of Texas presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States.

“Let he who has not sined cast the first stone.” – Jesus ( died by death penalty)

This what is meant by by fake christians.

An estimated 81,269 – 88,720 Iraqis have now died since our invasion of their country. Why? How can any republican think this is a “christian” approach?

Rick   February 16th, 2008 - 12:25 pm

Once again, Sir Charles has displayed his immense ignorance. He clearly has no clue what a Christian is, what a conservstive is, or most importantly what the Bible actually says about judging others. Stick to celebrity golf, Charles. At least there you’re fun. And God help the people of Alabama if you become governor. Although if they are foolish enough to elect you, they’ll get what they deserve.

BerettaCx4   February 16th, 2008 - 12:31 pm

Who’s Charles Barkley?

Paul in Oklahoma City   February 16th, 2008 - 12:33 pm

Everybody knows that Pro Abortion Demcrats are the true Christions, and pro-life Conservatives are the party of Satan.

Cv   February 16th, 2008 - 12:34 pm

I am from Alabama and a conservative first. Barkley has had a history of running his mouth and everything that comes out is just dumb. He would not last one minute in politics. There are numerous interviews with him cutting down someone or something. Just Google his name, Sir Charles please stay in AZ, Alabama is doing fine without you.

reinhart   February 16th, 2008 - 12:43 pm

Thank You Charles! Someone who gets it! The hypocrisy he spoke of is the whole reason I have denounced Christianity. Keep it strong!

Daddy-O   February 16th, 2008 - 12:45 pm

Charles, you need to stick with what you know best, bouncing your balls with fake white women and sounding as dumb as a stump.

JenniFurr   February 16th, 2008 - 12:47 pm

Go Charles! Spot on regarding the “conservative christian” right….Truly a bunch of hypocritical biblethumpers…

Jeanie   February 16th, 2008 - 12:51 pm

There are many people in the entertainment industry who are supporting Obama that make me cringe. It doesn’t stop me from supporting Obama. These idiots are not going to be on the ticket with him. There was good thing that Barkley did say that I totally and completely agree with, children in general need a role model other than sports figures. But remember Barkley has a pulpit because people like you buy hi brand. If you want to silence him stop buying products he promotes or sells.

Double A   February 16th, 2008 - 12:56 pm

aren’t most of the GOP closet gay anyway?….seems to be the MO of the republican party…do as I say not as I do.

Each and every one of you GOP loving rrepiblicans are phony…come on game over!!

You can tell by how defensive these rsponses are…hit a littleto close to home?

Jim   February 16th, 2008 - 1:11 pm

Charles speaks like Jesse and Al, like he never made it to the second grade. I would love to see him debate a Republican candidate.Any Republican would eat him alive because all of them can recite the english language. Also he was the most overrated basketball player in the NBA. If he would have been White he would have just been average.

beverly   February 16th, 2008 - 1:13 pm

whenever he opens his mouth…he just changes feet. can we assume then that he comes from a family of non christians? or that the only real christians are liberals? oh wait! most libs
are anti christians. what a MORON!!!!

kw-nashvegas   February 16th, 2008 - 1:21 pm

Here’s some scripture for you (and I paraphrase…). “You can tell the tree by the fruit it bears.”

That stated, I would say as a Christian that I need to be a fruit inspector to some extent. That said, I would say that Mr. Barkley is a fruit cake and highly misguided, you could call him a nut but that may confuse some liberals.

Talk about judging other people!!! Sheessheee

Etta   February 16th, 2008 - 1:26 pm

He’s absolutely right!!! The majority of these comments are all about hate and insults. Real Christian, huh? Jesus would be ashamed of all you so-called “Christians”. You’re anti-abortion but pro-death penalty. Now who’s the dimwit? Barkley can put all of you in his pocket. Amen.

Jackman   February 16th, 2008 - 1:31 pm

Mr. Barkley is the poster child for the sorry state of our higher education system. This guy attended a major college? What is really scary is that he probably went to class. This is what we celebrate in this country? Celebrity gives creedence to stupidity? Why would any intelligent news source broadcast his idiotic musings?

Mael   February 16th, 2008 - 1:35 pm

So Barkley comes out of the closet. What makes him such a Christian supporting Gay Marriage and killing of the unborn? Homosexuality is unnatural. One doesn’t have to be a Christian to understand that an anus isn’t a sex organ and that a baby isn’t something that can be discarded in the trash. If Barkley runs in Alamba he will find out the meaning of conservative. lol

Big Ed   February 16th, 2008 - 1:36 pm

Charles makes the mistake so many do when “trying” to quote the Bible. He takes part of a scripture; not even the whole sentence and makes ONE huge assumption about its meaning. One has to read the scripture in its entire context, taking into consideration what was said before it and after it, who the speaker is speaking to as well as half a dozen other considerations. That verse he threw out is very popular among liberals who use it like a pen knife in a sword fight in an effect to excuse themselves usually from some abhorrent behavior of their own. What the scripture is telling the reader is to not use themselves as the measuring stick in judging others, precisely stated; not to be hypocritical. We are to use the Word to judge behavior, not the person. I do not know how he squares the scripture that says the Saints will even judge the angels in the end. It does not, never has or ever will imply that we are not to judge the conduct and behavior of those around us. ALL of the laws of the land have their foundation in the Word of God. Charles may not know this but one day he will give an account of his words and his actions as we all will. I hope he can get his swollen head out of his backside before then. Stupid people should never give interviews or make public statements, especially if they plan to run for office. Charles has about as much chance as a chicken in a hobo camp of ever being elected Gov of Alabama.

far right   February 16th, 2008 - 1:40 pm

Conservatives are fake Christians?What about the Conservatives who believe in a different religion Charles?..or what about the Conservatives who believe in no religion Charles…..you would you call those people….fake what?as Forrest Gump would say…stupid is as stupid does.

Augustian   February 16th, 2008 - 1:40 pm

Charles Barkley. He was the guy who said Augusta National, the site of the Masters golf tournament, was making the couse harder so the black man (Tiger) couldn’t win. He called it “blatant racism”.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_14_101/ai_84396648

Robert Smith   February 16th, 2008 - 1:50 pm

To NoShariaForMe

I apologize for leaving off my list of Barkley’s accomplishments his derisive behavior toward the fans (spitting). You are correct that it should be included to illustrate his lack of decision-making capacity. He is probably near the top of the list of intelligent, educated, and informed democrats.

Charles Darwin   February 16th, 2008 - 1:52 pm

Silly monkey!

Hubert Humpty   February 16th, 2008 - 1:54 pm

Hey, Bigwood, what does Fox News have to do with THIS one?!? They get blamed for everything, and now this?

Dusty   February 16th, 2008 - 1:57 pm

Charles Barkley spits on 8-year-old girl (76ers at New Jersey, 1991)
With 1:38 left in OT at the Meadowlands, the Sixers’ Barkley, who said he was aiming at a heckler sitting court-level, spit on an 8-year-old girl. “He [the heckler] was walking toward me, and I spit at him,” said Barkley. “I was tired, and I didn’t have enough foam in my mouth. It went everywhere.” Barkley, who appeared to be sincere in his apologies to the girl, was ejected, suspended for a game and fined $10,000.

Modok   February 16th, 2008 - 2:01 pm

Look at you religious freaks giving sermons on here! You should all be quarantined. Do yourself and this country a favor, read a book besides the bible for a change.

Go worship Rush Limbaugh and do his bidding. Freaks.

jim   February 16th, 2008 - 2:07 pm

I don’t know who is dumber in this interview Wolf or Barkley. Obviously, pandering to an inferior intellect.

Ken   February 16th, 2008 - 2:11 pm

Auburn U handed out a degree to this inept inarticulate clown?

Dumb as stump.

American Bill   February 16th, 2008 - 2:13 pm

Wow there are christains actually preaching on here. Its amazing your cult has survived this long. Please move to another country please. Its embarrassing.

Craig in NM   February 16th, 2008 - 2:19 pm

When the this idot actually starts using the English language properly I might listen. Until then, Chuck, take your ghetto-speak back to where it belongs: the ghetto. God help Alabama if they elect this moron.

Tboner   February 16th, 2008 - 2:22 pm

MORON, I mean MODOK,

You are clearly an angry, hate filled Democrat that would love to see “mediocrity” realized. I hope Hillary Clinton wins just so you can really see socialism and communism at work you bonehead!

leo   February 16th, 2008 - 2:24 pm

Sounds like Barkley is judging Christian conservatives, What a jerk

The Good Book?   February 16th, 2008 - 2:30 pm

Parasite Pam wrote:

“Apparently “Mister” Barkley should “read the part about where they’re not supposed to” engage in homosexuality or the taking of human life. If he wants to stick to his beliefs, fine! But to criticize Christians for sticking to the book and rules they believe in just because they don’t comport with HIS preferences or choices…”

And maybe YOU should read the dozens and dozens of parts where God commands us to take human life:

As a Christian, you are REQUIRED to KILL the following people:

- Non-believers (Deut. 13:13-19)
- Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13)
- Unfaithful Spouses (Leviticus 20:10)
- Disobedient Children (Deut. 21)
- Anyone who works on Sunday (Exodus 31:15)
- Fortune Tellers (Leviticus 20:27)
- People who follow other religions (Exodus 22:19)
- Anyone who doesn’t listen to a Priest(Deut. 17:12)
- A woman who isn’t a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
- Blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16)
- Witches (Exodus 22:18)
- False Prophets or anyone claiming contact from another god (Deut. 18:20-22)

*All of these laws were endorsed by the “Prince of Peace” himself, Jesus, in Matthew 5:17-19

Christians DON’T “stick to the book or the rules” and that’s the problem. Anyone who followed the teachings of the bible to the letter would be considered a lunatic and placed in prison.

Murray River   February 16th, 2008 - 2:32 pm

Parasite Pam wrote:
“Apparently “Mister” Barkley should “read the part about where they’re not supposed to” engage in homosexuality or the taking of human life. If he wants to stick to his beliefs, fine! But to criticize Christians for sticking to the book and rules they believe in just because they don’t comport with HIS preferences or choices…”

And maybe YOU should read the dozens and dozens of parts where God commands us to take human life:

As a Christian, you are REQUIRED to KILL the following people:

- Non-believers (Deut. 13:13-19)
- Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13)
- Unfaithful Spouses (Leviticus 20:10)
- Disobedient Children (Deut. 21)
- Anyone who works on Sunday (Exodus 31:15)
- Fortune Tellers (Leviticus 20:27)
- People who follow other religions (Exodus 22:19)
- Anyone who doesn’t listen to a Priest(Deut. 17:12)
- A woman who isn’t a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
- Blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16)
- Witches (Exodus 22:18)
- False Prophets or anyone claiming contact from another god (Deut. 18:20-22)

*All of these laws were endorsed by the “Prince of Peace” himself, Jesus, in Matthew 5:17-19

Christians DON’T “stick to the book or the rules” and that’s the problem. Anyone who followed the teachings of the bible to the letter would be considered a lunatic and placed in prison.

sup   February 16th, 2008 - 2:32 pm

Wow, he was definitely destined to join the looney liberals LOL. I just LOVE when liberals like Barkley speak. Unlike liberals, who want to shut the other side up all the time (afraid much?), conservatives WANT stuff like this out in the open, because it shows what idiots liberals are and does nothing but help out the right. THANK YOU CHARLES!

This guy was actually in a sneaker commercial with Godzilla, who is a much more successful and intelligent potential candidate than Barkley. Godzilla has been a movie star and pop culture icon for 54 years! :)

Tboner   February 16th, 2008 - 2:34 pm

Your name speaks for itself SAM the SHAM! Take the plank out of your own eye!

Wow   February 16th, 2008 - 2:40 pm

I have never heard such a hypocritical statement in my life. So the way to get Christians to stop judging is to judge them? Hmmm…great logic there Charles. I read the part of the Bible about judging and it actually says to judge people in the same way that I expect to be judged. In other words, don’t be a hypocrite. Maybe Charles should read some more of the Bible. When it comes to the Bible, non-Christians should probably just keep their mouths shut because when they try to interpret scripture, they sound really foolish. I’m not trying to interpret the Koran because I would look like an idiot. I can’t wait to find out who his opponent is in 2014. I’m going to donate to that campaign.

Mr Nice Guy   February 16th, 2008 - 2:42 pm

What a jackass! The man sounds so very stupid when he speaks. He really should think through
his blanket statement about how judgemental the other side is. Wolf could have easily asked – aren’t you being just bit judgemental yourself?
What a softball interview that was! This why I’ll
continue to watch Fox and not CNN’s slanted crap!
Barkley – lets see your cowardly, dumb ass go on
Hannity and Colmes and repeat what you said on the Clinton News Network!

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 2:42 pm

Hey Mike, no one in this country is forcing you to be a Christian. That is a stupid thing to say, and it shows your ignorance. You DON’T live in a “theocracy”< Mike, this isn’t a “muslim” nation,{yet…) Mike…
Again, the hatred of the “left” rears its ugly head. If you’d like a taste of “theocracy”, then I suggest you get a passport, fly to Saudi Arabia, go stand on a street corner, and start preaching your “liberal” Godless filth, and see how long it takes for the authorities to arrest your butt.
For those of you who are haters,(sic;democrats & leftist}, you need to grow up, and stop being empty headed. Last time I checked, it was people of your ilk,Mike, that are trying to impose your secular beliefs on the rest of us. Why do I have to be overtaxed Mike? Why do I have to agre to let you murder unborn babies, Mike? Why do I have to look the other way when the Bernie Wards of the world are molesting Children Mike? Why do I have to tow Your LINE, Mike???? Can’t you just let the rest of us believe anf live our lives the way we want to, without persecution from leftist fascist like you MIKE!!!!!??????

Jack Robert   February 16th, 2008 - 2:44 pm

Charles is looking and sounding more like Idi Amin everyday. This comment is a follow-up to his famous comment that golf courses were being lengthened to penalize Tiger Woods. To which, Tiger said “Charles, the lengthened courses favor me!”.

And Charles, tell us then what a real Christian is so we can all set the record straight.

unbelievable   February 16th, 2008 - 2:48 pm

Incredible ignorance; amazing contempt for anyone who does not agree with him; speaks boldly of things he knows nothing about; and mind-boggling immodesty. All key components to a good Librocrat. Why don’t we all just be non-judgmental and give a pass to murderers, rapists, thieves and the like. After all, who are we to judge whether they are right or wrong? Where does this clown think most of our values of right and wrong come from anyhow? You can’t pick and choose WHICH wrong things are ok. Go ahead and run though; we need more accurate representation among Dems.

CG   February 16th, 2008 - 2:49 pm

“I’ll vote democrat no matter what”

Barkley your just a another peon on the democratic plantation.

Stephen   February 16th, 2008 - 2:56 pm

Well as much as he is for gay marriage, I think he is really gay and had too much eye candy in the locker room.One stupid black man. He will never win a Governor race with those type of comments. Total Idiot.

Gabe   February 16th, 2008 - 3:14 pm

I really liked him until this comment,..when he would speak I would listen but not any more.But ofcourse he’s going to vote democrate, most all of the black population does.

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 3:14 pm

Dear Eddie Estes, Jesus also berated the Pharisees and called them “Sons Of Vipers”. He also grabbed a whip and beat the crap out of a lot of money lenders squatting inside God’s temple.
And let’s not forget the anger and frustration he felt constantly for his hardheaded disciples, who just didn’t get what he was teaching fot the longest time.
Jesus said,” I come the first time as a lamb being led to the slaughter, but when I return, it will be as a roaring lion, with a sword of fire.”
Jesus did not say that as humans we can not judge that evil of others, but that an individual can not judge another for the same sin that they are committing.
My Jesus is about love, but he is also the returning King, and then, there will be “hell” to pay.

LiveFreeOrDie   February 16th, 2008 - 3:16 pm

“Democrat all the way” The dems have the best spokespeople. Barkley couldn’t be the governor of a whore house. Another expert on Christianity. Notice how Christian hating Wolf Blintzen delighted in the broad, sweeping, bigoted, anti-Christian generalizations made by the great philosopher Charles Barkley. True people of faith beware and get active, persecution always follows this kind open, public bigotry. Liberalism is a hateful and dangerous mental disorder.

David   February 16th, 2008 - 3:18 pm

Like most liberals, this guy is just a fool whose mouth runs WAY ahead of any small amount of intellect he may have.

It will be interesting to see how the media responds to this FAKE CHRISTIAN issue versus the FAKE SOLDIER issue a few months back. I think I know the answer to that one!

LiveFreeOrDie   February 16th, 2008 - 3:20 pm

PS: There is nothing so common as a freed man biting the hand
that freed him. The poor Christian missionaries who taught
the savage to read and write and the Christian abolitionists
who gave life and limb to set the captives free have clearly
died in vain.

J. Alejandro   February 16th, 2008 - 3:29 pm

What a genius! First he says that what gays do is none of his business and then he says he is for gay marriage. He should fit in with Obama voters. Another great addition to the Democrat’s geen pool!

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 3:33 pm

NoShariaLaw

is a moron. Obviously showing his/her total ignorance and utter bigotry. You think Jesus spoke perfect Hebrew?

You think jesus the peasant spoke perfect Latin?

No…probably not. like most moronic christians you probably think he spoke Perfect English.

Drop your religion and step away from the bible now!

DemonratTrap   February 16th, 2008 - 3:34 pm

“Democrat all the way” The dems have the best spokespeople. Barkley couldn’t be the governor of a whore house. Another expert on Christianity. Notice how Christian hating Wolf Blintzen delighted in the broad, sweeping, bigoted, anti-Christian generalizations made by the great philosopher Charles Barkley. True people of faith beware and get active, persecution always follows this kind open, public bigotry. There is nothing more despicable and common as that man who bites the hand that freed him. The poor Christian missionaries who taught the savage to read and write and pray and the Christian abolitionists who gave life and limb to set the captives free have clearly died in vain. Liberalism is a hateful and dangerous mental disorder.

Don   February 16th, 2008 - 3:37 pm

Wow, what a dingbat,,, I knew he was a joke, but this confirmed it. Wow.

gary   February 16th, 2008 - 3:41 pm

how do the words ‘partial birth abortion ‘ make you feel chuckie?

Jim DeGalengor   February 16th, 2008 - 3:42 pm

The true hypocrisy is really in the double standards held by many liberals. They are the only people who are allowed to call people derogatory names because their “judgement” is fair and impartial.
Can you imagine how the non-judgemental Barkely would be if someone said, “All blacks are lazy?”

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 3:48 pm

Seems like Barkely is right on target.

Alejandro,et al….are these good “Christian Cxonservatives”?:

Surely you remember them, guys like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggert who never flinched at taking their flocks’ money but somehow managed to use at least part of it for some sweet young stuff.

Other Repub ‘holier than thou’ folks…just a few mind you:

The fourth highest person in the vaunted Department of Homeland Security, Brian Doyle…was arrested & convicted on 23 charges related to the use of a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful materials to a minor.

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania pled no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo of Floyd County, Kentucky was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins of Asbury Park, New Jersey pled guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker of Nashua, New Hampshire is a convicted child molester.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls.

Republican Mayor John Gosek of Oswego, New York was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz of Richland County, Ohio pled guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican Speaker of the Puerto Rico House of Representatives Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain of Monroe County, Pennsylvania was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth of Kannapolis, N.C., is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader of Witchita, Kansas pled guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency of Camden, New Jersey pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge of Soputhbay, California was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz of Des Moines, Iowa, who George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble of New London, Connecticut pled no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer of Arizona was charged with molesting his 9-year old step daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. and Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence both of Washington, D.C. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens of Columbus, Ohio was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio of Burke, Virginia was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen of Colorado Springs. Colorado was convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney of El Paso County, Arizona pled guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane of Illinois had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition and South Carolina Republican leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline of Orange County, California was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman of Maryland was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman and attorney Jeffrey Patti of Sparta, New Jersey was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman of Florida (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. It was Glickman, interestingly enough, that claimed Bill Clinton came from a low rent state and had torn down all of the standards for the highest office in the land.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks of Quartz Hill, California was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway who had relocated to Maine from Huntsville, Alabama after having been accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White of West Chester, Pennsylvania, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston, Texas pled guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling of Anderson, Indiana was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington pled guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan of St. Louis, Missouri was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr, also of St. Louis, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland of Kingsport, Tennessee was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt of Pensacola, Florida was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs of Hawaii County, Hawaii pled guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler of Cass County, Illinois was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner of Clark County, Nevada admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner of Lancaster, Pennsylvania was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter of Boothbay, Maine pled guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. of Wrightsville Borough, Delaware pled no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall of Virginia was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris of West Bend, Wisconsin, who has been described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo of Bakersfield, California molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp, Russell Harding, pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen, Sr. of Kalispell, Montana, was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

These are all matters of public record, not hearsay. Their major similarity is that they are Republican Conservative Christian activists who have made their mark by preaching family values while performing unspeakable acts of perversion, many with minors.

Kodiak   February 16th, 2008 - 3:52 pm

I hope you spend a lot of money in your attempt to be “Alabama Governor”. I think your run for governor will provide a boost to the economy (your money) and provide the citizens with comic relief. On the negative side, I’m fearful that there may be citizens in other states that think there are more people just like Barkley in Alabama.

rlr   February 16th, 2008 - 3:57 pm

Lillian Lieber in her book “Mits, Wits, and Logic” made the point that just because you know lots about A doesn’t mean you know squat about B. Our friend Charles aptly reflects that wisdom. A good basketball player doesn’t imply sound judgement in other regards.

Also, that he will vote Democratic is not a stretch given his race. Should we keenly attend his effusions today and with bated breath await his assent to the governorship of Alabama. Let’s see. Probably not.

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 3:58 pm

NoTenCommandmentsForMe-

Why do you assume I am Christian? Why do you assume that I am even religious? Is that because I don’t want sharia law for me?

I said NOTHING about the Bible you fool!

And, BTW, my name is NoShariaForMe, not NoShariaLaw4me.

You are INACCURATE and probably a product of the public school system!

Vince Hugh   February 16th, 2008 - 3:59 pm

Okay, we know Barkley is not exactly the most brilliant person on earth. Someone who says conservatives are fake christians…then runs for office, well that says it all.
Then some of these people responding with their anti-Christian messages reminds me of my first year in college and how everyone suddenly begins to question everything…including the existence of God or Christ. But then as you mature you begin to think a little deeper and see the vast wiseness in the writers of the Bible, and our forefathers who quoted the Bible on a regular basis.
These hate-christian people never quite made it beyond this beginning phase and have trouble comprehending anything unless they can actually see it. Faith is belief without fact, and these people can’t quite get beyond simplicity. 90% of people in our country believe in God…and some VERY intelligent people in our human development.
It’s easy to condemn Christians and believers by short sighted and immature minded people. It takes a much bigger and deep thinking man to accept faith for all the good it has done over the centuries. These non-believers should, for example, read the history of the Catholic Church. It has a succession of popes (apostolic),and written history, going back from Peter and uninterupted for over 2000 years…Christianity.

Marcus Blue   February 16th, 2008 - 4:04 pm

Poor Charles Barkley. Did he do steroids?
Before this bloated turd opens his mouth again, he may want to have a drool towel ready. Just to hear him complete a sentence with out stumbling over every word would be nice.
If this is the future of the Democratic party, I can only wish for the “good ole’ days” of Jimmy Carter.Ha,Ha,Ha.
Charles, May I suggest that you slam Islam on national television. What, to afraid? They would do something to you. I bet you would be praying to Jesus Christ to save you as they hack through your throat.
I find your mental state of mind worriesome.
Your physical appearance disturbing.
Please get some help with controlling and completing whole words.
By the way Charles, What sex act will you approve of next? What sex acts have you engaged in? Male/female? Child/adult? Come on Charles cough it up. Where will you draw the line?
No Charles being a Christian is not easy. We struggle with everyday challenges. Hate, anger, frustration, envy, heartache.
Please don’t TRY to qoute the Bible in the simplest of terms. Sit down and read it. You would be amazed at what you could learn.

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 4:06 pm

Dear Willy, that was pure, unadulterated genius. Please keep posting your pearls of wisdom here at this site, so that we may all bask in your wisdom and enlightened thoughts.
I get the feeling your an “Obama” supporter. Oh, wait a minute, that can’t be right. He’s a “Stupid greedy Christian” also. Or has Obama been lying to us about his faith??? I’m so confused. Please, oh please, post again WILLY, I need you to straighten me outon this, oh wise and illuminated one.

Pat   February 16th, 2008 - 4:11 pm

Chuck is to lazy to run for anything. If he wasn’t we would have won in the NBA finals. He dogged it in the final 2 games, loser! All he can do is sit on his fat a$$ and run his mouth.

I didn’t know he liked the taste of d**k though.

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 4:16 pm

MsPac,

The difference between the conservatives and the liberals is that conservatives think it is WRONG to have sexual contact with a minor. The liberals think that the conservatives are WRONG TO THINK THAT! Conservatives need to be more open minded, less sexually repressed, and less judgemental, right??

Who do you think NAMBLA (national alliance for man boy love) would vote for, liberals or conservatives?

Wilmoon   February 16th, 2008 - 4:16 pm

US Christians do not have to judge, The GOD of Israel, that is the GOD of Christians has already judged, homo’s are worthy of death? romans chapter 1. murder, aboration is also already judged. We, as Christians are required to be vocal, and adamant, we are here to represent ones Government, namely Jesus Christ.
Charles Barkley is another loud mouth who has no idea what the Bible states. LIKE MOST- Quotes from Barack Obama’s book, Audacity of Hope:
“Lolo (Obama’s step father) followed a brand of Islam ….”I looked to Lolo for guidance”.
“I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION.”

aw   February 16th, 2008 - 4:18 pm

Personnaly, I think he is entertaining, but naive to think he could be elected as governor of Alabama (can you say “bible belt”) on an anti-christian platform. Plus, his golf swing sucks.

Kurt W   February 16th, 2008 - 4:18 pm

He just wants to be able to jump on the Obama bandwagon.

Chas   February 16th, 2008 - 4:19 pm

I’m moving to Alabama so I can vote for Chuck in 2014. It’s about time somebody blasted these judgmental morons!!

Marcolino   February 16th, 2008 - 4:23 pm

Only CNN would have this clown on. Does CNN think that Barkley is someone that people would be interested in his comments? He has the intelligence of a turnip! I am always interested in what intelligent people have to say but Barkley is far from that.

ron   February 16th, 2008 - 4:26 pm

Put a retarded monkey in a suit, what you got?

A retarded monkey in a suit !

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 4:27 pm

Of course I condemn that behavior. The So WHHHHAAAAATTTTT!!!!!! means: what’s your point? Besides the one on your haed,Pinhead. Are all Repiblicans child molesters??? Are all Democrats evil??? People like you have led to the slaughter of tens of millions of humans this past century. Were all the Jews of Nazi Germany evil child molesters? Are all Muslims mass murderers?
Think about that, oh wise one.
For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Your list means nothing, and your argument is an empty one. Post all you want, fool, but I’m done with you today, I’ve said what I wanted. Think about it. How many have suffered and died because one group stereotyped another….

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 4:27 pm

“Nice list, MsPuke, I could come with a list of leftist NEOCOMMS, {Democrat,liberals,etc,} twice as long as your”

In other words….you can’t AND…most noticeable…. you failed, as a Christian, to distance yourself from & address those abusers of children. Your response implies that you are one of those “fake Christians” to which Barkely is referring. Yep….Jesus Christ would look the other way too, huh? LOL!

Mikey   February 16th, 2008 - 4:35 pm

Charles, which side are you on? All the times you were on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show spouting ‘Conservatism’ and now this reversal? Charles, I’ve seen your life in Alabama, and don’t be concerned about running for governor…nobody will vote for you! Between your ignorant remarks about Christians and your pompous ity-a consequence of ‘rags to riches’ life and no experience handling the latter, your continuous waffling will show itself to anyone who observes. Must be an Aubie thing…Stay in Arizona or Las Vegas, and waste your money there, you hypocrite!

TomB   February 16th, 2008 - 4:42 pm

I’m all for gay marriage. Let women marry women and men marry men. It’s great.
I’m for abortion. If you don’t want it then get rid of it.
I think that’s just fine.

In a couple generations there won’t be any liberals left and we can have our country back.

…and another oldie but goody…

if you’re young and not liberal, you have no heart
if you’re older and conservative, you have no brain.

Joe Conservative   February 16th, 2008 - 4:43 pm

Charles is right that there are a lot of fake Christians.You know the type…they go to church on Sunday and make fun of people who talk about God on Monday….they go to church on Sunday and demand that God not be mentioned in school on Monday.They go to church on Sunday but on Monday they demand that the 10 commandments cannot be displayed in a government building.They go to Church on Sunday but at Christmas they demand no symbol of the birth of Jesus in the town square.They go to church on Sunday but on Monday they demand abortions be performed…..Yes Charles there are fake Christians out there but they seem to be in YOUR voting block…opps!

Tony Darbo   February 16th, 2008 - 4:44 pm

I wonder how many abortions this guy has paid for even though he played with balls his whole life??

anthony   February 16th, 2008 - 4:44 pm

Barkley who? I dont know him,but he should be careful about killing the unborn defenseless
babies and queer marriages.The bible is strong
against queer marriages.God said,to Jeremiah,
I knew ye in the womb.I have formed him,I have created him.Be careful Barkley.

anthony   February 16th, 2008 - 4:47 pm

I forgot that real christians believe that murdering children and sodomizing another man is just fine and not sin.

1st Responder   February 16th, 2008 - 4:48 pm

Hey Tommy, That was hilarious!! I mean it, I can’t stop laughing. That was great! And as for you MsPac. I don’t know what point your trying to make, pinhead, but your list means nothing. No one group of “people” are monolithic in their behavior, fool. How many have suffered and died in the last century, because of sick people like you, you who demonize and “list” an stereotype entire group of humans who are different than you. The nazi’s had a long list too.

help for Aslhey   February 16th, 2008 - 4:50 pm

Ashley let me clear up your confusion.The death penalty is given to an evil doer who has committed some terrible crime.A baby in the womb has committed no crime….the baby is innocent human life.The job of the federal government is to protect innocent human life from those who want to commit a terrible crime.For example,a murderer is someone who has committed a terible crime and may be subject to the death penalty.A baby in the womb,would be considered innocent human life that deserves to be protected….I hope this clears it up for you.

gregg   February 16th, 2008 - 4:51 pm

he’s right. christian conservatives are against abortion, pro life, but also for the death penalty, pro death. fiscal conservatives are against welfare but only welfare for the poor, economic handouts to big business is fine. face it, a calling yourself a conservative is just the new kkk white sheet, to hide the fact you are racist, ignorant, selfish, and xenophobic. Your time is about up. Goose step out of this country. we don’t want you here anymore.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 4:52 pm

“Wow thats a long list and wouldn’t you know it not one democrat made the cut…”

But then the Dems aren’t the subject of this thread, are they? Nice try to morph the thread… though it’s not going to work. ;0) It is widely recognized that the PR campaigns, soapbox rants & slogans for the PseudoCon/PseudoChristian radicals has been/is their “Christian values”. And THAT is what we are discussing here afterall. To that end…you all have FAILED to disprove that a single one of those few listed PseudoRepub sex abuse cases is false. You have FAILED to prove that they are real “Christians”. These are the folks to which Barkley is referring afterall. By not disproving the cases as false…you are essentially agreeing with Barkley & the rest of us TRUE Christians. Your silence about their illicit, non-Christian behavior indicates you condone it. That you don’t seem to understand that is amusing. ;0)

When your ‘leaders’ are caught NOT following the Christian values you PseudoRepubs so widely soapbox as important in selecting elected officials….you IGNORE their perverted, NON-Christian behaviors. Why is that???

You are inferring that it is OK…as long as they call themselves “Republican”. You Pseudos are such hypocrits & your responses (& lack of appropriately directed replies at the “fake Christians” listed above) only demonstrates this. And you don’t seem to “get it”. LOL!!

JUSTADUDE   February 16th, 2008 - 4:59 pm

MSPAC YOU JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT LIST HANDY? WHERES THE LIST OF DEM’S THAT IS JUST AS LONG OR LONGER?

JOhn   February 16th, 2008 - 5:02 pm

What an idiot, We should take up a collection so he can learn to speak english without the “ebonics” accent. This guy is truly a racist. I think he might be trying to come out of the closet.

Greg   February 16th, 2008 - 5:02 pm

… as he judges conservatives to be nonChristian. What a hypocrit!

DavidJM   February 16th, 2008 - 5:03 pm

Jesus said that the world will hate Christians because it hated Him. Why did the world hate Him? He said it is because He tells the world that their deeds are evil. In Noah’s day God judged the world because the minds of the people imagined only evil continually. That sounds like a large segment of America today. We all sin. But some say, yea I sin but I’m not as bad as the next guy, but Christ said the man who trusted Him for salvation said, God be merciful to me a sinner. All true Christians, by God’s grace alone, through faith alone, trust in Christ alone for salvation from the wrath of God. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Pray that Charles and others would turn to God, accept Jesus offer of salvation and receive the forgiveness of sins. It is obvious that he is troubled and searching for his way.

RightStuff   February 16th, 2008 - 5:04 pm

Barkley has gristle for brain, and MsPac is a pervert.

GuyInCT   February 16th, 2008 - 5:05 pm

Charles Charles Charles, you are totally missing the point. Jesus said do not judge people on something that you yourself are guilty of. He did not say don’t judge people on anything. Hey don’t judge that child rapist! Didn’t Jesus tell us not to judge other people?

Jay   February 16th, 2008 - 5:05 pm

Barkely, the same guy who once spit on a little girl and said ” I hate white people,” also took on a radio host for telling lies about him. The problem was that the radio host was reading from a book – Barkely’s own autobiography. Yet, he claimed they were lies.

Yes, this is a guy we should get behind. Let Charles lead the way with his obvious level of wisdom and insight.

Bill   February 16th, 2008 - 5:07 pm

yaawwnnn. he has a book coming out and needs any type of publicity or ?

C. E. Nelson   February 16th, 2008 - 5:08 pm

For Barkley to be be interviewed on the Clinton News Network says it all….to put this uneducated basketball player on the air to discuss religion and politics is really pushing the envelope for the benefit of some political group. Now I wonder which one that could be? It’s not rocket science for sure…Sadly, this man has been used and comments here are being read by young impressionable fans of a sport, but of course to some, sports are a religion. Why else would CNN put him on the air if not to effect the voting of a certain segment of the population who will sadly take this guys statements and go right to the voting booth?? We are seeing a generation of young people who vote based on celebrity status remarks and the Democratic party is behind this no doubt. America’s future is being destroyed with nonsensical rhetoric getting air time!

KK   February 16th, 2008 - 5:08 pm

Charles – aren’t you judging? What a hypocryte…I hope he isn’t as stupid as he sounds in this interview.

Wacky MsPacky   February 16th, 2008 - 5:08 pm

Just for fun,give us some dirt on some Democrats

Gregg   February 16th, 2008 - 5:12 pm

Typical republican misinformation. Barkely accidnetly spit on that girl. he was spitting at man in the crowd who called his a nigger. the man ducked and he hit the girl. he apologized. he was joking when he said he hates white people. his wife is white. his best friend is white. he’s far from racist.

aaron   February 16th, 2008 - 5:18 pm

As usual, Barkley opens his fat mouth knowing not of what hes talking about. He was never a good basketball player (how many teams was he on?) and is about as stupid as the democartic symbol (an ass, how fitting for that party).

BK   February 16th, 2008 - 5:23 pm

Jeez.

Didn’t realize it. Barkley is one dumb SOB.
Seriously, the lights are on, but no one’s home.
You can almost here the wind whistling thru his ears.

BJ   February 16th, 2008 - 5:25 pm

I thought Charles Barkley was an idiot. Can’t believe their are so many morons lapping up what this guy says.

I just dream of candidates like Barkley running on the Dem ticket. If this is the best they can offer then hand over the keys to the Governor’s mansion now.

D. Black   February 16th, 2008 - 5:26 pm

Why would any black person in this country support the GOP, whether youre a famous athlete or not. The GOP has hi-jacked religion to shove it’s ideals down our throats. Is it more Christian to oppose abortion than it is to support a war that has killed 300,000+ INNOCENT women and children? Would Jesus ever use the words “collateral damage” when discussing these deaths? NO. You “Christians” are using Jesus to support your idealologies so you can have your man in office. Jesus would PUKE if he were here today.The irony is that if you believe in the ‘rapture’, what will you tell God? Taxes were too high? Ignorant morons.

Seeker   February 16th, 2008 - 5:28 pm

How funny to call conservative Christians “fake”.

I guess he is cool with stereo-types of calling Latin American’s “lazy”.

Afro-Americans should properly be labeled as “thugs”.

All Muslims are “terrorists”.

Charles is classic. So quick to call out others when they stereotype Blacks or basketball players but when he applies it to Christians or Conservatives it’s OK.

Kevin   February 16th, 2008 - 5:33 pm

Barkley is a MORON.

With this clip, he will never get elected to public office. Can you imagine the outcry if he made this comment about Jews?

Brian   February 16th, 2008 - 5:37 pm

Auburn must be pretty proud of the education this guy received there. I’m not sure he can go two consecutive sentences with proper grammer or a congruent thought process.

Run Charles run, I say. 2014 will have its laughing stock candidate.

Jerry from Tampa   February 16th, 2008 - 5:39 pm

It is obvious that the secular progressive crap has gotten to Chuck. I find his statemens funny but conflicting. His rap about the Christian conservatives being judgmental is REALLY what is judgmental. Chuck drink your kool ade and go dribble. They eat people like you in Alabama!

von8   February 16th, 2008 - 5:41 pm

Fake Christians? Wow, thats throwing stones from inside a glass house if I’ve ever seen it.

Charles, do you even know what conservative even believe in? Or do you just know that you always vote democrat and your church votes democrat, so we must be fake? Why don’t you take a look at the issues and see which ones Christ valued? Sanctity of life, freedom of religion, less government power, and personal responsibility. There are plenty of others, but one thing is clear, the democrat party as a whole despises Christians and is continuing to try to eliminate all influence from Christians from our society.

Bucky o'Hare   February 16th, 2008 - 5:46 pm

LOL, wtf? What’s wrong with people and christianity? Who cares who’s a christian? Religion does not belong in politics. I’m a republican and religion plays no part in knowing right from wrong. I admit i don’t like the religious right, but the religious left is just sickening. They verge on fascism, with socialism plus social restrictions.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 5:49 pm

Barkley makes the mistake of thinking that “Christian” is an opinion about the sort of person someone is, rather than a statement of fact about a person’s faith. A Christian is a person who believes that Jesus Christ is the sinless Son of God, who was crucified and rose from the dead three days later, and has placed his or her faith in the shed blood of Christ to grant forgiveness for Sin. Some of these people are pleasant and nice, others are not. But they admit that they are sinners saved by grace, so insulting them is a waste of time. They already know they are sinners and place no faith in their own good character.

Ruben Ochoa   February 16th, 2008 - 5:54 pm

This idiot is an intellectual moron, the man is a bigot and Charles you need to go to langauge school because you sure do not know how speak man. You played basketball you idiot get a real job. You are a racist and I will tell you this if you think that the slaughter of 48 million babies should my my own business then your crazy. You just pissed of one Latino you racist bigot. You are now my most hated person in my life.

Vince Hugh   February 16th, 2008 - 5:55 pm

Barkley just proved the notion that many athletes are not exactly the brightest people on earth. They’re like movie stars, they have either good looks or athletes very tall so they have a sports advantage over others. But they sure don’t have a mental advantage as we just witnessed in this video.
These people who get a great thrill out of condemning christianity are usually that way because they don’t want to live up to higher rules as expressed in the Bible or Ten Commandments. It interferes with their lifestyle and justifies some of the behaviors they have committed and gives them a convenient out. Often these types have no children or understand family values,and don’t have any concept of the idea of religion as a higher power as stated numerous times by the founders and forefathers of our country.
These people should definently move to another country where they can be happy….say maybe, Venzuela. By the way, Barkley is not unique, he represents a huge portion of the Democratic Party. You will never see these loonies shown on mainstream TV because they know it would ruin the Democratic Party and upset the NY/Hollywood mainstream agenda.

Pac the Perv   February 16th, 2008 - 5:57 pm

Ms pac…everyone sins…the thing about liberals is they want their sins accepted by society and anyone that doesnt want to put vile acts on display for our children to see are called hypocrites.the old guilt trip has been used for years by the left to make their filth become mainstream.

bruce   February 16th, 2008 - 5:58 pm

I used to have some respect because of his humor, but he sure lost any respect I had for him. What an idot !!

TomF   February 16th, 2008 - 6:00 pm

MsPac, your list of Republicans who have committed sex-crimes IS truly chilling. I agree with you that such repugnant behaviour on the part of a conservative is hypocrisy. But your statements assume that such behaviour on the part of liberals is somehow LESS hypocritical. That is why I’m a conservative.

Barking Up the Wrong Tree   February 16th, 2008 - 6:00 pm

This is the same moron who picked LA to sweep the Pistons in 2004. Enough said…

Antiliberal   February 16th, 2008 - 6:02 pm

Hey Chuck, I think all that Krispy Kreme filling has gone to your head. I respected you for your accomplishments in the NBA (back when skin color and long criminal histories were not a prerequisite). Now your just another political hack for the Democratic party. I got a new nickname for ya…”the round mound of nothing profound” Your a has been just go away will ya!

Lew K   February 16th, 2008 - 6:04 pm

Charles Barkley has once again shown what an ignorant comic book character he is. I guess you Alabamans have something to look forward to!

Alabama Redneck   February 16th, 2008 - 6:05 pm

Folks you have to remember this guy made a living playing basketball. Hey Charles, your fifteen minutes of fame expired a long time ago. Stay in Arizona. Alabama politics is screwed up enough without throwing your hat in the ring.

dcw   February 16th, 2008 - 6:07 pm

Someone please get this guy into a bible class regarding judging others. The bible does NOT say do not judge others but judge as you would want to be judged.

Please run Charles. I’m sure the Dems would love it.

mADAM cHARLeES   February 16th, 2008 - 6:08 pm

What an jerk. Tell me sir Charles. What have you done in your miserable life other than put a ball thru a hoop? That’s real constructive for society. scumsucker!

Sam the Sham   February 16th, 2008 - 6:11 pm

everyone is capable of vile acts. Even conservative christians. Barkley does indeed wield a wide brush, but before everyone here attacks with false outrage in the form of a schoolyard pile-on, realize: there are a great deal christian conservative leaders who are not fit to lead. Who are not fit to represent good conservatives, who are terrible christians in need of some serious self-examination. These people don’t deserve to be defended or protected. They deserve to be dragged out into the light, admonished, and put on the path toward redemption.

Barkley’s mistake was that he didn’t mention the many conservatives who live right and do right and follow the Golden Rule, what Jesus brought to replace the old and outdated laws of Moses. But you know what? Those conservatives would only shake their heads at Barkleys words, and would move on. I suspect a lot of the people making above comments know in their hearts that they aren’t as good followers of Christ as they could be.

And last I checked, abortion, gay marriage, and gun control weren’t as big on Christ’s list as loving your fellow man and turning the other cheek and challenging authority when that authority does wrong. Unfortunately, there have been many times in this country’s past where being a true Christian has been inconvinient for politics if not downright un-Patriotic. Oh yeah, and the people in Jesus’s time and even before had methods of birth control. They could consume large amounts of certain seeds or plant extracts that would cause a pregnancy to cease in its earliest terms. And guess what? It wasn’t illegal or blasphemous. You won’t see it even mentioned in the Bible.

The Conservative Political movement these last few decades wanted to get votes by claiming the moral rightness and righteousness and superiority. They’re the keepers of everything good, and Godly, and if you’re against them you must be a Godless liberal? People, if you won’t wake up, we’ll lose this country. It’ll be taken right from under your noses, and sold to the Chinese and the Arabs and the European corporate interests, and those good Christian Conservatives? They won’t invite you to their new villas in Milan, or their private islands in the Pacific. Nor will you see them at your church.

Lj   February 16th, 2008 - 6:12 pm

I see Charles is standing in New Orleans, I think that is where so many “Christian Churches (conservative) donated so much money and supplies, even drove trucks they rented to bring supplies to the people of New Orleans.
Hmm, fake Christans..
How much did you donate to the people in N.O.?
Well you are “well spoken”…
Pro choice? I wonder if your mom was “pro choice”?
“they should read the part where it says they should not judge other people” I think you just did that..jerk.

Heathen   February 16th, 2008 - 6:14 pm

Only conservatives? Christianity is the home of most of the worlds hypocrits. Jesus would not know where to look to find a Christian.Oh yea, a Jew looking for a Christian.Big joke.

Kevin H   February 16th, 2008 - 6:14 pm

Most christians are fake. Jesus taught forgiveness and non-violence. But most christians are intolerant and pro-war.

Tony   February 16th, 2008 - 6:14 pm

Whatever Charles, I’ve seen better logic and understanding of the Bible from a 5th grader!

Weaver   February 16th, 2008 - 6:15 pm

As Sir Charles has so eloquently stated in his remarks here, I am to assume that he believes that anyone who dissagrees with him, if they are conservative and especially if they are Christian, then they are judging other people. I’m against gay marriage, so I’m judging gays, I’m against abortion, so I’m judging abortionists. I’m also against murder, rape, incest, and stealing, am I to assume with his 3rd grade logic that I’m judging murderers, rapists, incestuous acts, and thieves as well. Good luck in 2014 Charles, you’re the best thing that can happen to the Republican party in Alabama.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 6:17 pm

I am a libertarian Republican. He makes me want to move to Alabama so that I can vote for him.

Richard   February 16th, 2008 - 6:20 pm

Sir Charles is at it again. Judging Christians while he berates those Christians whom he says judge others. Oh well, Charles has never been accused of being consistent. Obviously, he has very little knowledge of the Bible and Christ’s teaching. Christians can love the sinner, but hate the sin. Christ condemned sin. He gave us a choice to obey him or not. He gave Barkley the same option-obey him or not. It seems that he hs taken the latter.

Ein Stein   February 16th, 2008 - 6:22 pm

Hey, rlr, regarding your comment, are you crazy?!? Do you think Charles Peckerhead Barkley even BEGINS to know how to DRAW a circle, let alone understand a mere fraction of your level of logic? Your whole premise falls on that basic evolutionary point! Hand him a ball and tell him to dribble! The universe will remain in balance under that scenario.

Kevin Olson   February 16th, 2008 - 6:25 pm

Another idiot…. too many BBalls to the head.
Obviously a democrat, his opinion most likely a waste of time.
Remember… you get what you vote for, Barkley, Schwartzegger, Ventura, Franken……. Democrats WOW what a party

Annie   February 16th, 2008 - 6:27 pm

No one cares what this illiterate, ignorant, white-woman loving, dumb jock has to say. He’ll fit right in Alabama. He can’ even form full sentences and speak properly. Maybe he should consider going back to high school or get hooked on phonics.

To lump all conservative Christians together as fake, because you can’t live up to Godly standards yourself is typical. Go ahead Barkley and continue to live your sinful life, It’ll be your damnation.

Craig   February 16th, 2008 - 6:32 pm

Folks, please join the modern era.

The earth was not created 6,000 years ago, and you do not walk on water. The Huckster did not major in Miracles and you cannot stop a speeding bullet with your fingers.

You cannot fly – off a cliff.

All these things are true, and if you want to see folks with no intelligence or common sense, just look at someone who believes in miracles.

As they say, it makes it much easier to kill people when you think you are blessed to do so, and their religion is wrong.

1st Responder   February 16th, 2008 - 6:32 pm

OK Sam, all sarcasm aside. While what you say about yourself may be true, it might also be possible that your a lying, decieving, backstabbin’ dimocrat, posing a false image. One things for sure, you are an arrogant, holier than thou know it all, and I have only your convoluted and, yes… leftist words to “judge” you by.
So whatever, sir. I really don’t care who you say you are, if you can say these things about OUR great president, a man who has done what it takes to keep us all safe, then to me your nothing but a George Soros lovin, moveon.org America hating socialist idiot. If you don’t like my response to you, GET OFF THIS POST!

SCW   February 16th, 2008 - 6:35 pm

barkley is a dip S#*T! thats obvious.
as far as dems chances in november hillary or osama will not win NOT win jack! when it comes down to the 2 front runners and the debates start the dems are gonna get slammed as usual. people are sick of abortion and gay marriage. they want lower taxes, secure border, and more U.S. manufacturing… NOT a Nanny state like osama and hillary want. just wait and see. we want change but we sure as hell do not was a socialist state the size of jupitor! ciao

SCW

geirgo   February 16th, 2008 - 6:36 pm

Coulter: If Democrats had brains they’d be republicans.

Barkley: If republicans had integrity, they’d shoot themselves.

GO Chuck!

1st Responder   February 16th, 2008 - 6:36 pm

Damn, you got me, Sam. ZIIINNNGGG!!!! Guess I better just give up and quit posting. By the way, I’ve run into your insane lies before to. The difference between us, is your a lying idiot, Smartboy…

RODMAN   February 16th, 2008 - 6:36 pm

You sure he didn’t play football? I think he has taken to many shots to his head. What a moron. That is so typical of the priviledged who never had to work for anything.

Sam the Sham   February 16th, 2008 - 6:37 pm

“Reality has a well-known liberal bias.” – Stephen Colbert

Hey I can quote cartoon characters too!

Mike Savage has zero credibility. anyway, re murder and killing. Only God has the right to take someone’s life away as punishment. Are you going to take your lawyer with you on Judgement day? “But..But my lawyer said it was legal.” So the killing of babies is the same as the killing of a 3 day old zygote? But totally different from the murder of foreign people by American explosives dropped from a mile above them? The killing of innocents is the killing of innocents. Except where politically useful, or except where politically inconvinient?

Kipp   February 16th, 2008 - 6:39 pm

Wow, with views like that, Alabama doesn’t seem like a place to put down roots. He is right but probably not right for Alabama,

JadedSage
http://www.jadedsage.com

U NO HOO   February 16th, 2008 - 6:39 pm

“Sounds to me like the Chuckster is trying to come out of the closet.”

And/or convince himself that the abortions of his b*****d fetuses are OK, Spankty.

Tex Taylor   February 16th, 2008 - 6:41 pm

Charles Barkley’s Christian portrait…

http://crime.about.com/library/blbarkleyc.htm

Just one of another multitudes of dopes making up the Dimocratic party.

Tara   February 16th, 2008 - 6:41 pm

He is pro choice and pro gay marriage and he’s gonna run for governor of alabama!? What!!! Ha! Ha! I wanna say mr barkley claims to be a christian… WWJD? kill babies and marry gays! Yea Right!!! What bible is this guy reading?

1st Responder   February 16th, 2008 - 6:42 pm

Of course I know what a “Pharisee” is, you twirling idiot! A “Pharisee” is a card carrying member of the Democratic Party.

Mic   February 16th, 2008 - 6:42 pm

I believe the main difference between a Conservative and a liberal is that a Conservative is willing to wage war and kill terrorists, while liberals (for a profit) wage war against the unborn. I guess it is allot easier to kill babies than terrorists.
Someone mentioned that a Black person should not vote for a Conservative, well again the difference is clear, when a Conservative sees a Black person they see his\her equal, someone whom they could work with side by side. When a liberal sees a Black person, they see someone who is inferior to them, which need a government program in order to achieve success. Blacks to liberals are pawns to further their own socialistic agenda.
As for homosexual marriage, if people want to commit perverted acts on each other in the privacy of their own dwelling, that is their problem. When these perverts want everyone to accept this repulsive lifestyle, they cross the line. Barkley should not try to push his lifestyle on normal people who want to have moral values. He is the hypocrite. He Hates anyone who disagrees with him.
Which brings up my last point. Conservatives want a Strong Country where they can work and raise their children. Liberals want to live off the hard working Conservatives and tell the Conservatives how to raise their own children. That is why they want Hate crime (Thought Crime) laws passed. So they can throw you in jail if you disagree with them.

Kel Mactell   February 16th, 2008 - 6:42 pm

By his own definition, Charles is not Christian at all since he is judging millions of people in one fell swoop. LOL. It must be hard to be so dumb.

Vince   February 16th, 2008 - 6:43 pm

When I here the words Charles Barkley it makes me sick!

What a dope!

Tex Taylor   February 16th, 2008 - 6:43 pm

My idea of the ideal Christian:

http://crime.about.com/library/blbarkleyc.htm

My Brain Hurtz   February 16th, 2008 - 6:44 pm

It’s a shame Barkley’s mother quite and a few other mothers weren’t a little more “pro-choice” if you know what I mean! The world would have been a much better, friendlier, more literate and more intelligent place today, although the NBA would hardly exist and its fanbase would be DECIDEDLY smaller, as people would have had more altruistic and useful things to do with their time!

Riteaidbob   February 16th, 2008 - 6:46 pm

Stupid is as stupid does and Liberals tend to be the stupidest. Another idiotic “star” flapping his gums about something he knows nothing about.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 6:46 pm

Certainly Jesus would have not condoned abortion for convenience nor would Jesus have ever condoned homosexual practices or homosexual marriage. Seems that Charles Barkley is the hypocrite here and the fake ‘christian’.Nowhere in the bible does Jesus say we cannot judge peoples actions and behaviors. In the context where Jesus says ‘Judge not, lest you be judged’ He meant that when we judge, we are to judge fairly for we are judged ourselves. Apostle Paul spoke immensely on ‘discernment’.The bible does say that only God can judge our souls but we as people are to judge right from wrong and judge fairly.I feel sorry for Charles Barkley and especially sorry for Alabama come 2014.

don   February 16th, 2008 - 6:47 pm

turn the channel from espn…….

U NO HOO   February 16th, 2008 - 6:47 pm

First fake soldiers, and unfinished Jews, now fake conservatives.

Wow, what an interesting election in USA and police action in Iraq.

Obama said in Kindergarten that he wanted to be POTUS. Now Barkster says he bought a house in 2007 so he could run in 2014. Yuk, Yuk.

Unithraxer   February 16th, 2008 - 6:55 pm

This is exactly why I left the Democratic party after 15 years. I don’t like conservatives but I hate liberals even more. Go independent.

steve   February 16th, 2008 - 6:55 pm

God save the good people of Alabama from this idiot.
Another ignorant man speaks on issues that he knows nothing about. Sir Charles sounds like a typical politician, attack and label if you cannot deliver a sound logical argument on the issues. He talks about not judging people yet he has just judged millions of people. If you ever heard him speak on TNT Basketball then you would understand that is precisely what he does, judge, just ask Kobe Bryant. Logic is not his strength and emotional speech is his mantra.

What value does this man bring to the great issues and debates of our times? Why does the media give this man and people like him a platform to spew ignorance. Would CNN do the same if the target of such venom speak was a different religion, a race, a sexual preference, and a gender? I guess it is ok to judge and to use hate speech against Christians. By the way, he said that he lives in Arizona but he bought a house in Alabama in 2007 so he can have residence in Alabama to run for Governor of Alabama in 2014. According to Sir Charles, Alabama requires a seven-year residency requirement to run for Governor. Well you better move to your house in Alabama because it is 2008 and seven years would bring you 2015. At least you have some time to sharpen your rhetoric and mask your stupidity.

U NO HOO   February 16th, 2008 - 6:57 pm

MsPac:

BERNIE WARD!!!

Lemonpie   February 16th, 2008 - 6:57 pm

Charles Barkley is an idiot.
Please do not assume that all people from Alabama are like him. Most of us are well educated and have been wearing shoes for quite some time now.

Porky Pig   February 16th, 2008 - 6:59 pm

‘Liberalism is a mental disorder’ = Michael Savage

JB   February 16th, 2008 - 7:02 pm

See. Barkley lays it out. Put a little D next to your name and you can do whatever you want. Rape, murder, lie, steal and he will still vote for you. I don’t see why anyone runs as a Republican. Let’s just get it over with and have one party officially. If rich, rich, rich Barkley’s idea of a Christian is someone who puts a gun in your face and demands more and more of your money in the name of Jesus, then he is going to have a rude awakening when he meets the man. Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is you big-mouthed hypocrite before you come after more of my money?

LES   February 16th, 2008 - 7:05 pm

What does supporting our troops, wanting smaller government, cutting taxes and enforcing immigration laws have to do with being Christian? What a stupid remark he made.

Murray River   February 16th, 2008 - 7:06 pm

Here’s a thought… maybe we should stop debating Christian doctrine and realize that the bible doesn’t matter. It was written by ignorant, superstitious 1st century people who had no understanding of how the world works. It’s riddled with errors, contradictions, and failed prophecies. It teaches that “women are to remain silent,” that black people appeared on the earth as the result of a curse, and that homosexuals, disobedient children, and unfaithful spouses must be put to death!

It’s time to stop praying to an invisible sky fairy and start THINKING. Yes, thinking is harder, but it actually accomplishes something.

Christianity: 1st Century Thinking In A 21st Century World

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 7:07 pm

This is for JMW,,

When Jesus commanded us to ‘love our enemies’ He did not advocate letting our enemies murder and destroy us. My point is you referred ‘turn the other cheek’ as if christians were supposed to remain neutral or pascifistic when it comes to defending themselves , their country or their principles. I am here to say that the verse you quoted out of context simply meant that when you go out and preach the teachings of Jesus, when someone slaps you because of your faith, turn the other cheek. It doesnt mean to cowar and hide from your enemies and not fight, even if that means killing.

David   February 16th, 2008 - 7:09 pm

Who is this guy? I know, I know, he’s another brain dead demoncrat.

soobawls   February 16th, 2008 - 7:10 pm

Barkley used to be a Republican but he stopped getting invited to all the right cocktail parties, and since he is too stupid to be able to argue any of his opinions, he has to do what his white liberal friends want him to do. Otherwise he might have to actually think for himself.

Nette   February 16th, 2008 - 7:10 pm

Matthew 10:22 says, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

These are the words of Christ. We shouldn’t be surprised when non-believers hate us. My hope is that non-believers will one day give their hearts to Christ! God has changed my life tremendously – Christ is the ultimate Good News.

Glen   February 16th, 2008 - 7:10 pm

What a dumb sh_t!

Marantaz   February 16th, 2008 - 7:13 pm

Charles Barkley is a fake intellectual. I’ve liked Charles, I’ve met Charles, and I’ve always found him to be an entertaining interview. But a serious commentator on important issues? Please, he’s a buffoon. As a lifelong agnostic and an intensely Conservative American, I can assure you, Charles Barkley doesn’t know jack.

Nelson Santiago   February 16th, 2008 - 7:13 pm

Mr. Barkley is Biblically illiterate. He is distorting scripture and should seriously think about going back to school to study theology so that when speaks he can at least speak with some knowledge of the subject matter. His comments are a reflection of his ignorance about the Bible, true conservatism and diplomacy specifically. His need to offend others is a reflection of the psychology of a bully who is big, bad and always wants to rule the play ground by force. But when it comes to the classroom, the research, the writing, the speaking presentation, he reveals what he really is; an ignorant, intollerant, undereducated athlete who by virture of his fame in basketball gets to be in the limelight and as a result, becomes an embarassment to the African American commuinity by not being to articulate his argument in a thoughful diplomatic manner. And he wants to be governor? Please…show yourself worthy Mr. Barkley. Get some coaching. And oh by the way…improve your speach patterns while your at it. Obama you are not!

KE   February 16th, 2008 - 7:14 pm

It is better to have people think you are ignorant about certain things, than to open your mouth and prove it. What ever chances Charles had of public office, he just messed up. This sound byte will be around for a very very long time, Charles. Maybe for eternity.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 7:16 pm

Certainly Jesus would not have condoned abortion for convenience nor would Jesus have ever condoned homosexual practices or homosexual marriage. Seems that Charles Barkley is a hypocrite, nowhere in the bible does Jesus say we cannot judge peoples actions and behaviors. In the context where Jesus says ‘Judge not,lest you be judged’ He meant that when we judge, we are to judge fairly for we are judged ourselves. Apostle Paul also spoke immensely on ‘discernment’ which means to judge.The bible does say only God can judge our souls, but we as people are to judge right from wrong.I feel sorry for Charles Barkley and especially sorry for Alabama come 2014.

Kevin Harrison   February 16th, 2008 - 7:17 pm

There’s nothing like a broad paint brush to blindly indict an entire group of people based upon your experience with a few. I am a conservative and I am a Christian – nothing fake about me! What you see in public is who I am in private – you can ask my family and they’ll tell you the same.

Perhaps if we all stopped calling each other names and focused on the real issues, we would find out life’s not about Republicans or Democrats; it’s about people. THIS is the biggest problems with the two-party system in America – both parties are consumed by winning elections, instead of focusing on helping people.

Charles, please run for office. If you keep this sort of talk up, I have a feeling the outcome would be like all of your NBA championships.

Jrandolph   February 16th, 2008 - 7:19 pm

So, Barkeley thinks that conservatives are “fake” Christians because they supposedly judge other people while forming thier opinions. Then by definition he would be a “fake” Christian in judging them for judging others.
Is he really that stupid? If this is true then using the Bible to fight racisism, or muredr would be would be wrong because it judges the racist and the murder. You get the idea.
What a tool.

Tex Taylor   February 16th, 2008 - 7:23 pm

Hey MsPac,

You forgot to give the room our secret decoder ring to decipher your posts.

MsPac and Charles obviously having something else in common. Their native language is ebonics.

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 7:23 pm

2 leftwinged liberals,,, you got Charles Barkley, undoubtedly an uneducated dolt and Wolfie Blitzer, the dept store dummy with no genitalia loving every minute.

Robert   February 16th, 2008 - 7:28 pm

I agree with Charles.

We shouldn’t judge anyone. We should say anyone can’t do what they want to do.

I think we should allow people to gas jews, kill small children, lynch people based upon their race, drive 200 mph through a school zone with children present, murder people who wear the wrong colors, sell crack cocaine to 11 year olds, ’cause you know who are we to judge?

Bret   February 16th, 2008 - 7:30 pm

He might not be as eloquent as the ‘conservative country club set’ but the basis of Barkley’s argument could not be more true.

Tom: Do you know Jesus? From my understanding Jesus would be the last person to judge somebody for their sexual orientation, color of their skin and so on. You are the core of the hypocritical Christian conservative movement that is damaging our country beyond repair. You realize those in other civilized countries laugh at your ignorance.

DocinMPLS   February 16th, 2008 - 7:31 pm

Wow am I glad that this dim bulb is on your side. Axe almost anyone, and they will tell you that you are a real dumb ass . you could not find your ass with both hands and a mirror. It must hurt when you sit on your head all day long, seeing that it is so far up your ass that you do not know what time it is. When you go into the baff room, to take a crap I just assume you are just filling your head with more feces, you know you are just another person ( liberal) with feces for brains. Keep up the crap you are still spewing, we all know that the truff is something you are not familiar with. You are a great big blowhard, if you and al gore would just shut the f u c k up, all the hot air you two are spewing is doing more for global warming than the sun. Get a grip but first remove you head from you r a ss so maybe just maybe you can learn to speak english so that more than just your weak minded homeboys can understand. what a pile of monkey dung.

Matthew   February 16th, 2008 - 7:33 pm

Hey Charles, Wonder what it would be like on the basketball court if the ref refused to “judge” a move?
read this: Isaiah 59:8:”The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.” Looks to me like when you refuse to make a call between right and wrong you end up in truoble.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 7:34 pm

“In his tirade about Christians judging he sure did a lot of judging on his own. ”

Larry…Barkley is talking about FALSE “Christians”….FALSE “Conservatives”….folks who label themselves as “Christian” without benefit of PRACTICING Christian teachings/values….folks who, when scrutinized, are NOT “Conservative” in their political actions. He’s talking about these PseudoChristianCon extremists who USE “Christianity” as a political PR campaign to control all the branches of the government. He was not addressing real Christians nor authentic Conservatives. Could he have made himself more clear? Yes. The verbal exchange was brief. I suspect he clarify what he meant in the coming days. But of course, irregardless, the “false Conservative/Christians” will deliberately morph & take this all out of context in order to propagate their hateful tripe & attack. These wanna-be armchair dittoheads love a good fight. Truth & facts are not important to them. They support child molesters afterall & think that the Ten Commandments are only for the “libs” to follow…that they (the PseudoCons) are excluded because of their unrighteous righteousness. Their “God” is a “God” of hate afterall. Every religion has it’s fanatics….Christianity included. The radical-righties are upset because the rest of us are sick & tired of their emotional rantings & ravings & baseless personal attacks. ;0)

John S.   February 16th, 2008 - 7:35 pm

Forrest Gump must have been thinking of Charles Barkley when he said, “stupid is as stupid does”. Brilliant moments from “Chuck” include when he played for the Phoenix Suns he insisted that he should not be looked at as a role model while he cursed his way through every interview. He once called himself a conservative while first contemplating politics as a second career. When asked about his thoughts on history, he said that he didn’t care about history. Now he labels Christians as fakes. Appealing to the base of Alabama voters obviously is not part of his winning strategy. Or simply, is it ” stupid is as stupid does?”

cheapfuel   February 16th, 2008 - 7:39 pm

I did not hear one ‘You Know’, if you know what I mean.

JB   February 16th, 2008 - 7:40 pm

Sould we conclude from this “genius” that all the real Christians are liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans who agree with him. I presume that He (if a Christian) has not spent much time in the Bible. It (the Bible – God’s Word) has clear teachings about homosexuality (from God’s perspective it is an abomination) and murder (abortion – every woman has the right to choose BEFORE THE PENIS IS INSERTED). If homosexual relationships are natural, why are participants not producing offspring in the natural way. Oh, it takes a female seed and male sperm. The Bible also has instructions regarding honoring the leaders of the country (which so many liberal Democrats and Republicans refuse to do). Mores the pitty for Alabama in 2014 if he is all the dems can put forward.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 7:42 pm

“In his tirade about Christians judging he sure did a lot of judging on his own. ”

Larry…Barkley is talking about FALSE “Christians”….FALSE “Conservatives”….folks who label themselves as “Christian” without benefit of PRACTICING Christian teachings/values….folks who, when scrutinized, are NOT “Conservative” in their political actions. He’s talking about these PseudoChristianCon extremists who USE “Christianity” as a political PR campaign to control all the branches of the government…who get all emotional & riled when they are held accountable for their NON-Christian/NON-Conservative actions/behaviors. He was not addressing authentic Christians nor authentic Conservatives. Could he have made himself more clear? Yes. The verbal exchange was brief. I suspect he’ll clarify what he meant in the coming days. But of course, irregardless, the “false Conservative/Christians” will deliberately morph & take this all out of context in order to propagate their hateful tripe & attack. These wanna-be armchair dittoheads love a good fight. Truth & facts are not important to them. They support child molesters afterall & think that the Ten Commandments are only for the “libs” to follow…that they (the PseudoCons) are excluded because of their unrighteous righteousness. Their “God” is a “God” of hate afterall. Every religion has it’s fanatics….Christianity included. The radical-righties are upset because the rest of us are sick & tired of their emotional rantings & ravings & baseless personal attacks. ;0)

Semoni   February 16th, 2008 - 7:45 pm

Charles,

Do you embrace people who hate you because you are black? Should we agree with them out of Christian love?

Guess not. Please grant us the same right to choose what we think is right and verbalize our thoughts.

beaker55   February 16th, 2008 - 7:47 pm

This kind of drivle is the typical product of our TV-head-Publik-Skoowel-Access-Hollywood culture. Nothing more or less than the mindless regurgitation of current pop-sentiment with absolute disregard for (and total disdain of) logic; a reality based on what’s seen and heard on the flippin’ Tube. Another Alfred E. Newman existentialist. It’s a shame. But, Orwell was right. Geez, shut-up and stick to basketball, Charles! Oh, and thanks for the hard-hitting, incisive relevance, Wolfie…. I gotta go puke.

Bobby S.   February 16th, 2008 - 7:54 pm

I am a conservative. As a conservative I am “judging” when I say that killing an unborn baby is wrong. I am “judging” when I speak against homosexual marriage. However, if I’m a loud-mouthed washed up liberal athlete and say that all conservatives are hypocrites, I’m not “judging”. How nice it must be to be a liberal and be able to call and say anything you want about a conservative or a conservative position without all that baggage of “judging” someone.

Ted   February 16th, 2008 - 7:55 pm

Barkley (and those who support his comments) is the most stunning example of unthinking hypocrisy I’ve heard in a while. He proclaims that tens of millions of of Christians are, in fact, not Christian at all. Why? Because they JUDGE OTHERS?

Didyou idiots who are dutifully typed “Right on!” giving any thought to the mind-numbed hypocrisy in what he’s saying? Oh, stupid me–I forgot, you’re all liberals. Hypocrisy is WHAT YOU DO…

BJ   February 16th, 2008 - 7:57 pm

I always thought Barkley was overrated. But this time he’s spot on!

Michael   February 16th, 2008 - 7:59 pm

What a complete and utter tool.

Patrick Scott   February 16th, 2008 - 8:00 pm

This sums up the 6th grade IQ of Charles “The Bonehead” Barkley
Only Charles could think abortion, gay marriage, condoms for children and gambling are traits of a Christian.
Charles is part of the “Aftermarket Christians” who think they understand what a True Christian is.

sean   February 16th, 2008 - 8:01 pm

hahahah! love it! the irony of morons calling charles dumb with there comments full of typographical errors! oh, that dumb jock! oh! im so offended! i think i will faint! whoa is me! why do you christians have so much time to peruse these meaniningless stories on the internet? why arent you down at the soup kitchen feeding the hungry, or helping to end genocide in africa? haha! hypocrites! liars! i laugh at you and your crocodile tears! suckers!

Rocketman   February 16th, 2008 - 8:02 pm

Barkley is not far off of the mark. While some Christians are true conservatives, the entire conservative movement has been hijacked by the phony Christian Neo-cons. The neo-cons first loyality is to Israel and not to America. Look at the attacks on Ron Paul, the one true Christian conservative by the Neo-cons and see that they don’t want what if best for America, only Israel.

SCW   February 16th, 2008 - 8:05 pm

2 cents more…. the Christian hater.. WOW it is so amazing to me. Yes God is too quiet for me thats true, but when he make a move you certainly know it. I am a sinner fo sho .. no doubt about that. and i find it realy hard to live some perfect life. i mean if God is keeping a score card on all my sins done today, or for tomorrow I am surely damned! but Jesus said all that come to him will be saved! I am counting on that when the bell toles for me. Jesus is going to have to forgive me for everything or nothing at all.
one of the most fasinating things about Christianity is it link to archealogy. If you look at your physical universe around you and you think this extrodinarily complex universe just happended by chance then you truly are a moron of the first degree. peace out.

Roger   February 16th, 2008 - 8:06 pm

I love it when people who want to speak for Christianity when they don’t know what they are talking about. Stupid people will go to Matthew 7:1 and quote form it and totally ignore Matthew 7:2. “For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.” This tells me that as long as the Bible is my guide then I can’t go wrong. It is against gay marriage and abortion and so am I. Before you try and use the Word of God against Christians maybe he should try and read it and understand it.

Roger

Tom   February 16th, 2008 - 8:07 pm

Christians love all God’s children including Gays (I have on in my family), girls who’ve had abortions (had 2 in my family), and stupid people like Charles Barkley (1 or 2 in my family).

The act of taking an innocent human life is, however, intrinsically, sinful and evil. There are NO MORE compassionate people toward the mother of that child, though, than the same Christians who believe aforementioned natural law.

It is HE, Barkley, who is judge and jury.

By the way, He’s going to try to get elected to Alabama Gov on a pro gay marriage platform. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Billy   February 16th, 2008 - 8:09 pm

Why does anyone give this slime ball any press? I’m not at all surprised by anything this moron says. He should have been exiled from public life after he spit on the fans. Period.

Tim Eakins   February 16th, 2008 - 8:10 pm

To Mr. Murray River:

Where is one error in the Bible? THere are plenty of thinking men who thought that there were archeological errors, so far, archeology has not disproven the Bible, though many have tried.

Where are the contradictions? This one is a highly subjective argument, but there exist no contradictions in the original language and context.

Where is one failed prophecy? In Jesus’ life alone, over 300 were fulfilled. Try doing the probability on one man fulfilling just 8 of them, the number is works out to highly improbable. But, oh, I don’t think.

Where does it teach women “women are to remain silent?” Surely one small portion of a verse taken out of the context of that verse is not what you are basing your argument on! What if Ruth had been silent, or Esther?

This one’s a laugher! The Bible does not teach that black people appeared on the earth as the result of a curse. Wrong, wrong and wrong again! People are people, whether black, white, yellow or red!

Yes it does teach that homosexuals, disobedient children, and unfaithful spouses must be put to death! The punishment was for those who sin and are unrepentant. God is perfect, we are not, but do you really understand the reason? I think not.

Yes, some things are repulsive in the Bible to “thinking” individuals, but… when you examine the whole and realize that the Old Testament showed all of mankind, they cannot keep the law and are in desparate need of a savior. Though dealing primarily with Israel as the chosen people, as the law was given to them. The New Testament shows the life of Jesus and the sacrifice He made for all of us. He kept that law, because we couldn’t. Israel rejects their Messiah, and God is now dealing with everyone, for a time. God has not finished with Israel, because He does not forget His promises and covenants.

But as Jesus died, He cried from the cross, “It is finished!” That law has been fulfilled, and because He fulfilled that law, man can now approach the throne of God. But in fulfilling that law, ushered in grace… God’s grace. This is what a true Christian practices, grace. Grace does not require punishment as the law once did.

Yes, Christians do consider some activities immoral, among them homosexuality, murder, abortion, adultery, coveteousness, lying and stealing to name a few. So, I guess that covers everybody! We are all called abominations in God’s eye (read the book of proverbs.) But, for the grace of God, and His Son Jesus Christ, we all have salvation, IF WE WANT IT!

But, that requires humility.

joe   February 16th, 2008 - 8:11 pm

Charles and most black voters are sad. It was the conservative Christian ( Abe Lincoln 1863 ) who freed them and the conservative white congress that got them equal rights in the 1060’s. Black leadership has sold their people out like the Indians did. The Democrates have done well in demonizing the Right and masquerading as the party of the people. Just look at what their policies have done to American culture since the 60’s. With Hillary or Obama we will be bowing to the un ( not capitalized for a reason )in no time.

RT   February 16th, 2008 - 8:13 pm

This guy sounds like an idiot, who does not have any grasp on what he is talking about. He is running for governor. Can he spell the word

John McCain   February 16th, 2008 - 8:14 pm

Don’t worry sir Charles. Im really a democrat and most of the conservatives won’t vote for me anyway. Friends? Please? Ill give you my wife?

Billy Blank   February 16th, 2008 - 8:17 pm

Just another monkey-butt nig-for-brains jockey rash darkie.

Better get Obama elected, or you be in big trouble, oh my brutha! LOL

Tex Taylor   February 16th, 2008 - 8:34 pm

MsPac,

When you going to give out the secret decoder ring so we can decipher your posts? What is that? Yiddish?

Looks like you and Charlie have one thing in common besides your faux piety: ebonics.

Hoop Deritizz   February 16th, 2008 - 8:35 pm

Now now, don’t be picking on Mr. Barkley. He has a right to judge conservatives if he wants to. Afterall, his mama chose not to abort him, and look where he is today. Just shows what a ball and hoop can do for those that can’t think for themselves. He knows he can rely on Libs to spoon feed him, if he chooses not to be informed and educated.

Jeff Sherman   February 16th, 2008 - 8:36 pm

God’s Word described the way things are today. Christianity is increasingly going to be attacked and mocked by people who lean on their own understanding. Lies and deceptions will continue until our long suffering Lord who wishes that none should perish makes His final judgement. The Bible predicted these events and describes in detail tomorrow’s news.

The things that concern us today, elections, movies, NBA, houses, will seem folly. If you are a Christian pray, if not, please do not shut the door completely.

Steve   February 16th, 2008 - 8:37 pm

Big, big, big head, little little tiny brain!

NON-XTNS ARE FAKE!   February 16th, 2008 - 8:42 pm

NON-CHRISTIANS ARE THE REALLY FAKES!!

They are judging Christians for being judgemental! What an idiot. So let me get this right. As a Christian I am supposed to “forgive” a murderer or pedophile and not do ANYTHING to stop them? I’m supposed to allow a baby with a heartbeat to die 1 month before they are born naturally because Barkely’s party wants to partially deliver them and then kill them?

Hey Barkley – ALL LAW is a judgement on some type of character. Just because you don’t want to live by God’s rules doesn’t mean they are wrong.

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 8:46 pm

Black or white, brown, red, yellow, lovely colours, but that’s all they are. Republican or democrat, christian or muslim or jew, the only difference between them are the “titles” of race. Liberal, or conservative, no difference… Charles, you, like me, are just plain, lumpin’ humans living on a speck of dust in an unimaginably large universe. Stab me, do I not bleed like you? Tickle me, will I not laugh, like you? Do you, Sir Charles, love your kids more than George Bush loves his? You see, when you fall into that pit called hatred, it can be impossible, sometimes, to climb back out. You are a hater sir. Your heart is dead, but I don’t condemn you. You can’t help it, you’ve been raised in a society that finds it easy to hate others who don’t believe in the same things you do. What’s the “Final Solution”,Charles? Round all us conservatives up, load us into train cars, and ship us off to some concentration camp? would that satisfy you, Charles. Or better yet, why waste a valuable “Slave” labour force… mmmmm?…. Charles?
I feel sorry for people like you Charles Barkley, but I feel more pity for the lost souls that are posting on this websight in support of your hatred and racism. At least their’s no more denying the left’s evil anymore, you people have been to open and to arrogant with your hatred. You can’t disguise it anymore, hide your hate behind smiles and high sounding words. You turn on your own with just as much hate, you toss handicapped white men out of thier wheelchairs, and yet thiers not one word from a single black in this country about how wrong that was.
I would never vote for a big hypocritical phony like Barack Obama,{I already have a “Messiah”} but I hope he does win the presidency, and then, maybe, just maybe, America haters like all you leftist here, will learn to appreciate are GREAT NATION, and how anyone, even a drug dealer from Chicago, Can Become a great person, a person of worth and honour, the American Dream.
Obama likes to talk about bringing back the American Dream, But I say its always been here, if not, then what was it that got him to this point right at this time? mmmmm….
In the end, at the end of the day, Obama, Charles Barkley, and myself, are all members of the same human, {if a bit dysfunctional} Family.
If you would like to know what it means to be a “True Christian”, the I offer a bible chapter. Read it, and think about it, and then see which of our “Famous” Americans live it.
I Corinthians, Chapter 13, New Testament.
If you read it, ask yourself, is that me? Or am I the opposite of that.
Remember this, “Hell is for those who have forgotten how to love…”
God bless you Charles, and I forgive you your hatred, and I’m sorry that we live in a world that made you and too many others this way. Peace…

otto   February 16th, 2008 - 8:54 pm

Barkley is a functional illiterate who could bounce a ball. Who care what this Neanderthal says.

Pogue Mahone   February 16th, 2008 - 8:55 pm

Barkley is a fake human being. He is without a doubt one of the most stupid animals I have EVER seen in my life. If anyone ever gets a chance to get a copy of Celebrity Jeopardy on videotape, youwill see what I mean. This complete and utter waste of God’s gifts is a complete fool. He knew not ONE of even the incredibly simple questions that they ask on the Celebrity version. He finished the show with a minus and was bumped. The mere mention of him running for ANYTHING should make anyone wet themselves laughing. America has completely lost its way to idolize people like this, and people like that Shaquille O’Neal, who can’t even talk except in mumbles and grunts. Even his commercial on telelvsion has to be limited to monosyllabic words: ‘Whe da hee is ah, da pay is gah!” No wonder this country is being beaten by the world economically! Grow up, America! Value learning and education for a change, not these morons!

Chukkal   February 16th, 2008 - 8:58 pm

I hope his parents and grandparents are alive to read what an ignorant human he has become…..but we all know what money can do to an uneducated mind. Shame on you!

nutz2u2   February 16th, 2008 - 9:08 pm

The basketball hit Barkley in the head once too often.

Murray River   February 16th, 2008 - 9:12 pm

To Tim Eakins,

For starters, no one knows what Jesus said, did, or taught because Jesus didn’t write anything down. Neither did any of his contemporaries. The writings we have about what Jesus supposedly did were written between 40 and 70 years after he died. Jesus didn’t write anything and neither did anyone who ever met him. That’s a problem.

Aside from that, outside of the bible, there is no evidence that Jesus ever lived. Numerous Christian authors on the forefront of apologetics have conceded this point. In the book The Bible Has The Answer, apologists Henry Morris and Martin Clark say on page 31: “The only real information we have about Christ and His life is in the four gospels.” On page 64 of Basic Theology, Dallas Theological Professor Charles Ryrie says, “All that we know about the life of Christ appears in the Bible.”

Would you like to direct me to Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger for evidence? Been there. None of them lived during the time Jesus supposedly lived and none of them referred to him by name.

How about Josephus? He also wasn’t a contemporary of Jesus. He wasn’t even born until after Jesus allegedly died. What’s more, the passage cited in his writings is a known interpolation as it doesn’t appear in copies of “The Jewish Antiquities” until after 320 C.E.

What we do have is enough written history from the middle east during the time Jesus allegedly lived to form a library and yet none of these writers noticed Jesus performing miracles, healing the sick, and ascending into heaven. How odd.

As for your questions about errors, contradictions, and failed prophecies, all one needs to do is a little research and they are easy to locate. Perhaps you should consult “The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy” by C. Dennis McKinsey. It’s rather thorough. But, since I know you WON’T do that because your mind is closed, I’ll give you a few quick examples:

One Error: (Daniel 8:10 KJV) Star can be knocked to the ground and stomped on!

One Contradiction: II Kings 8:26 – “Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.” II Chronicles 22:2 – “Fourty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.”

One Failed Prophecy: (Jeremiah 9:11) “I will make Jerusalem heaps and a den of dragons; I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.” Do I really need to point out that Jerusalem isn’t a “den of dragons” and that Judah has never been uninhabited? Furthermore, should a book that makes prophecies about dragons really be taken seriously by a reasonable person?

(I Timothy 2:11-15) “I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” Women are not allowed to speak, teach, or have authority over any man.

(Genesis 9:20-27) Black people are the result of a curse and deserve to spend their lives as slaves. Based on the genealogy provided by the bible, all blacks are descended from Ham. Genesis 10:6 references Ham’s sons as Cush, Mizraim, and Canaan.

Cush (Kush) is a Hebraic word meaning “black.”

Mizraim is a Semitic word for Egypt which was populated mostly by blacks.

Canaan was also an area inhabited predominately by blacks.

In biblical times, no one understood why people were different colors. This was the explanation given for the existence of black people. They are the result of a curse.

Need more evidence? Jeremiah 13:23 asks “can a Kushite change his skin?” The Jewish Talmud, which is the precursor of the modern bible, explains, “Kush, lineage of Ham, shall become black because of the curse…” Another verse states, “the crow and the Kushite shall become black because of their wrongdoings.”

Do you believe this 1st century explanation for the appearance of the black race?

You asked for ONE example of each and that is what I have provided. Rest assured, though, that I could provide hundreds and hundreds of similar passages that reveal endless errors in your infallible magic book.

Beyond that, let me address this comment:
“But as Jesus died, He cried from the cross, “It is finished!” That law has been fulfilled, and because He fulfilled that law, man can now approach the throne of God. But in fulfilling that law, ushered in grace… God’s grace. This is what a true Christian practices, grace. Grace does not require punishment as the law once did.

Have you read the bible, sir? You’re speaking of dispensationalism and the concept of “grace.” That’s not what Jesus taught. Jesus taught adherence to the Old Testament laws and the bible teaches that God is unchanging.

Jesus says quite clearly in Matthew 5:17-18 that he did not come to destroy the laws of the prophets, but to “uphold them… every jot and tittle… until the law is fulfilled.” That means, according to the teachings of Jesus,
every law handed down to Moses applies to this day!

(Hebrews 13:8) “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” If Jesus is unchanging and he came to uphold the laws of the Old Testament, what case can be made for following some of the laws of the Old Testament (Ten Commandments), while ignoring others (stoning people to death)?

The Old Testament laws were also endorsed in other parts of the gospel: “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John 1:17) and (John 7:19) “For the law was given by Moses…”

The simple fact is that the OT law is still in effect, whether you want to adhere to it or not. The Ten Commandments are in the OT. Are you suggesting they are no longer applicable to a Christian?

The problem in the Christian community is one of “selective adherence.” You follow what you want to follow and explain away the passages that either make you uncomfortable or would result in you being arrested in a civilized society (killing homosexuals, for example).

One last note, if you plan to fall back on standard defenses such as “you’re taking these scriptures out of context” or “interpretation” or the always popular, “you must refer to the original writings in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc.” argument, don’t bother. Those are all copouts. It says what it says. Period.

We can think for ourselves and be free of 1st century superstitions, IF WE WANT IT.

But, that requires effort. You must study and learn about the history of religion. It’s much easier to just fall in line with the religion of your parents or community.

Read. Study. Learn. Make an educated decision.

I see your condescension and I raise you!

Wayne   February 16th, 2008 - 9:17 pm

Charles Barkley is an embarassment. Anyone who would vote for him for anything is a moron.

Dan   February 16th, 2008 - 9:19 pm

He is just another black racist who loves white women. He is also a liberal media darling and with their help will probably become the governor of Alabama.

dan   February 16th, 2008 - 9:19 pm

Aren’t you beeing judgemental by saying conservatives, or any other group, is judgemental?

Parasite Pam   February 16th, 2008 - 9:26 pm

Just listen to this clip again – the big dummy can’t even pronounce half of the words he’s trying to use! He even had to pause at the word “stomach” – that’s a difficult one! Other highlights:

“I don’t like the way the Republisana takin dis country.”

“But I’m ommah vote Democratic.”

“And in two sousand fourteen I promise you ima run for Governor Alabama.” (Who IS Governor Alabama anyway?!?)

“You ha ta ha resisdesy fah for seven years, an I baw mah house….”

“They caint do anything ta me.”

“I feel very cuntherbull sayin’ pro I’m pro cho-ice.”

And the hypocritical part:

“Well they should read the part about where they’re not supposed to judge other people. They forget that one when it doesn’t fit what they wanna say.”

Apparently “Mister” Barkley should “read the part about where they’re not supposed to” engage in homosexuality or the taking of human life. If he wants to stick to his beliefs, fine! But to criticize Christians for sticking to the book and rules they believe in just because they don’t comport with HIS preferences or choices, then he needs to understand that people outside the world of basketball have beliefs other shooting hoops and gang bangin’ and shoving your bling in everyone’s faces, and everything else that goes with it. How quickly we forget, this guy was the WORST example of decency or respect or sportsmanship that there was in pro sports! As for governor of anything, not in this lifetime! You’re dreaming, Jack! Leave the positions involving actual decision-making to the informed! Go back to pontificating with the other Neanderthal jocks on some sports show or other. Please!

Nietzschean   February 16th, 2008 - 9:31 pm

I’m neither a conservative nor a christian. But I watched this guy say on camera during a press conference in response to a question posed by a white reporter that he hated white people. The question didn’t even have anything to do with race. Could you imagine a white man making such a statement and continuing–nay, prospering in his career. I’m not surprised white bleeding hearts hold blacks to such moral standards, but it is surprising that blacks accept it.

Modok   February 16th, 2008 - 9:31 pm

Charles,

You are correct sir. Conservatives are a uniquely american disease. The hardline religious variety is the most dangerous. Conservatives are either: 1) racist; 2) religious for personal gain; 3) religious because they are ignorant; 4) Greedy.

All you christians living in your little bubble need to jump on a plane, read the newspaper or turn off Rush. You have embarrassed this country long enough.

Jay Bonwell   February 16th, 2008 - 9:32 pm

Charles obviously does not know what a “Real Christian” is. It is a sad day for people of any color when naive socialist principles are accepted as Christian. The pursuit of killing innocent babies, inducing the lack of personal responsibility, accepting the idea that you can actually negotiate with Satanic forces that have already convinced themselves regardless of what you say or do that it is their godly duty to destroy us, robbing the American public of their hard earned money in the name of taxes for socialist programs that have failed all over the world and again promote a lack of personal responsibility, their failure to see that the federal government ALWAYS seems to mismanage any social program, the failure to see that America was founded on principles of enabling the American people to life, liberty and the pursuit happiness (not that it is automatically given to them), the failure to accept that our founding fathers gave us the freedom OF religion not the freedom FROM religion, the failure to support law and order, the immoral acceptance of forcing the taking from one class of people to give to another class of people instead of giving them the free choice to do so, the acceptance of a socialist health care system that has failed world wide (why do you think all of the Canadians are RUNNING to my home town of Phoenix for our health care), the acceptance and PROMOTION of homosexuality which is called an abomination by God in the bible (not that we don’t love homosexuals, we just don’t accept their sin) are just a few of the things that true false or brand new baby Christians are embracing. The conservative Christian church gives a greater percentage of their income to charity by far than liberals that claim to be Christian and many times when they don’t have extra to give. Liberals, in genera, seem to give out of their wealth, but even that is almost a mute point. According to the bible a real “Christian is one who believes that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, that he died for our sins and rose again and then enters into that forgiveness by repenting of his or her sins, which also include worldly liberal principles that are against God’s COMPLETE Word, and then receives salvation’s sealing with the Spirit of God. You are then BORN AGAIN, a new creature in Christ and you do not belong to yourself, but rather to God. This means you don’t sleep with the Devil. Christians are not perfect, but rather are being perfected, but according to scripture the are to JUDGE ALL THINGS according to scripture with the acceptation of those individuals who have not been saved from hell by Christ. Yes, the bible says do not judge lest thee be judged, but it continues to say FIRST take the plank out of your own eye so you can see to get the splinter out of your brother’s eye. Scripture speaks in further detail about this, but I don’t have time to address all of it. My point is, it is usually those that don’t KNOW the bible or its author that will say that is your interpretation. Those that haven’t surrendered to Jesus truly don’t know Him or how to interpret His Word.

Christians love, but it is with Christ’s love not the world’s love. Again, Christians make mistakes, but if our hearts are right with God we repent. We don’t keep silent when we see the world running towards Hell. This does not make us self righteous, quite the opposite we recognize that we fall very short of righteousness and that’s why we need the blood of Jesus to make us right with God. It is not our own doing other than running towards Jesus.

I loved watching Charles Barkley play basketball and I love Charles Barkley, but he is mistaken on his viewpoint on what a real Christian is and does. His support for Barak Obama is support for everything that is wrong in a precious black and American community. Most people can’t even name one of his accomplishments. Barak is obviously a very sincere honest man, which is wonderful, but if he leads this country (including the black community) down an immoral unbiblical path then it is sin. Hitler, Stalin and many other monsters were very sincere in their beliefs, but that does not make them right. I am not saying that Barak Obama is a monster like they were, but rather very naive and obviously not holding to authentic biblical philosophies and principles. It is not peace AT ALL costs. There will be a greater price paid in the end. Where would the world be today if America did not intervene in World War 1 and 2? I guess I could right a book about this, but I think it is enough said for a challenge to those who question whether or not the bible is the absolute word of God; I used to strongly believe that man wrote the bible and man makes mistakes, therefore the bible MAY be from God but only in inspiration. I actually researched this with an open heart with a love for THE truth not my own and found out I WAS wrong. God is bigger than that and by the way there is actual mathematical, historical and scientific evidence that leaves little doubt that it truly is GOD’S WORD, but check it out for yourself if you can be honest with yourself.

Thought you might like to know.

Jay

Bigwood   February 16th, 2008 - 9:34 pm

Amazing. What a “role model”. Why do people keep putting a microphone in the path of this man? Great job Fox news. Even Satan knows the good book so beware! I pray for Charles and hope that he soon is filled with the Holy Spirit and repents of his sins. Only then will he see the error of his ways. That’s not me being judgemental, just honest. I believe in the word and the whole book, not just the parts that I like to use to support my own beliefs. We Christians are only attacked if we allow it to happen. I for one will continue to live my life for Christ and fulfill my purpose until I am with the Father. Thanks goes out to Mr. Barkley for helping our cause of bringing people to the Lord and getting Christianity back in the spotlight. Bad press is better than no press at all.

Nietzschean   February 16th, 2008 - 9:35 pm

The black muslims are against abortion and gay marriage. It would have been fun if Wolf has asked Barkley if black muslims make him want to vomit. Poor Charles.

JMW   February 16th, 2008 - 9:37 pm

“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”– Mark Twain (1835-1910)

John   February 16th, 2008 - 9:43 pm

Charles is gay, everyone in sports knows that. Which is obviously why he is going to vote ‘democratic’. Charles is the fake Christian.

Trevor   February 16th, 2008 - 9:44 pm

What a surprise–another Democrat who stereotypes the opposition with ignorance, and CNN laps it up like the non-thinkers they represent. Barkley, stick to basketball. Oh, wait … running for office as a democrat requires nothing more than rhetorical appeal, i.e. Obama. Oh, well–liberals keep me laughing, that’s for sure.

Franklin   February 16th, 2008 - 9:47 pm

As a super-mega-maxie-Christian conservative, I’m praying for Charles. Evidently he really, REALLY needs it. Isn’t it odd how people who disdain the Bible and never have never read or studied it claim to know what it says?

Christians aren’t to judge the ‘world’ that is Christ’s job. However we aren’t about ignoring or abetting sin either… especially when it negatively intrudes on our lives.

We Christians have a responsibility to spread the ‘good news’ to the unsaved and defend what was born and remains a Christian nation of Christian values despite what Charles ‘hates’ so much. So much for respect. Pity.

jr mcduffie   February 16th, 2008 - 9:49 pm

those of you who support barkleys comments are a bunch of hypocrites especially those of you who are attack the conservatives who respond back on this website come on idiots we are just using our free speach rights to you liberal j k ss!ol fat a s chuckys iq must be around 0 he should fit right in with alabama democrat party as far as phony christian it would seem to me those who look to god to give them things like nba players who make millons playing a childs game then crys about the “rich”is a big a s phoney little “boy ” and yes i mean that way a sholes

Daddy-O   February 16th, 2008 - 9:52 pm

Hey Bigwood, It was CNN the Communist News Network’s Wolf Blitzer not Fox News.

Lee Bark   February 16th, 2008 - 9:53 pm

Charles is a BLACK racist that can get away with satung anyhng that he wants against white people. I wtached him interviewed by Donnie Deutsch and Donnie was scared to death to challenge him or even ask him why he makes so any racial comments abut white. Its all part of the liberal double standard on race in ths country. Blacks are always the victim and whites are always the racists no matter what happens. Someday whites might get sick enough of this black racist crap against whites and start sticking togeter like blacks do (but I doubt it). Blacks can get anythig that they want in this country simply by screaming racisn. Fack racist lies by blacks pay BIG money. JUst ask Jesse Jackson or fat ass Al Sharpton. They are the ones that invented this nre cottage industry. Digusting

Lee

Mike   February 16th, 2008 - 9:54 pm

Why do I have live by Christianity’s doctrines? Why does your religion have to dictate my life and my decisions? Why can’t Christian’s just let others live there lives?

It doesn’t make any sense to me. I encourage all Christians to worship your god and live your life, but PLEASE!! Stop telling ME how to live MINE!

Grampa Jonsson   February 16th, 2008 - 9:57 pm

wHY IS bARKLEY BEING INTERVIEWED AT ALL??
If a conservative is a fake Christian,than who are the real Christians??? Liberals?????
The reasin we have this baby boomer problem is because of the 40,000,000 deaths from abortion.
That is 40 million people that are missing since the 60’s.I think they call that genocide,not pro choice.Charles likes pro choice because he wont have to pay for support for his unwanted babies he has produced in the past and future.

Goodbye Natalie   February 16th, 2008 - 9:59 pm

Religion…God…Jesus Christ..does NOT belong to any one political party as the Unrighteous Right is on record to having claimed exclusive ownership of. WE the people are made up of a diverse collection of beliefs. Again…WE the People. Our government should be a reflection of ALL of us & our diverse make-up of beliefs/non-beliefs

except for Conservatives who are phony Christians ~ MsPac

Bigwood   February 16th, 2008 - 10:00 pm

Daddy-O thanks for the correction. My bad. Does it really matter though? Don’t much care for the news anyway. Especially when Charles Barkley is asked his opinion. Maybe they should ask Brittney Spears who she is going to vote for.
Mike no one is telling you how to live your life. Convictions are yours so own them. There is a preferred method. If you don’t like the “doctrines” than take it up with our founding fathers. Or move. I hear Iraq has a good thing going on over there.

Tboner   February 16th, 2008 - 10:09 pm

Mr. Barkley could barely pronounce the word “residency.” Yes, he will make a fine governor of Alabama! That was almost as brilliant as Kanye West saying that Dubya does “not like black people.” What an idiot!

Who's the Real Judge, Barkley?   February 16th, 2008 - 10:09 pm

OK, sir Charles, who’s the real judge? You tolerate “Gay Marriage” and “Abortion” and brag about how tolerant you are, but then you judge conservative Christians by calling them “fake.” Come on. Where are people’s brains?

He’s talking from both sides of his mouth – he would be a great politician.

If we followed his open-mindedness, we should do away with jails because we should all tolerate everyone else, no matter whether what they do is right or wrong.

Don’t people think anymore?

Barkley needs to ask the question, “What is truth?” – not his truth, not my truth. “What is truth?” – period.

Is he able to think? Or is he just a talking head?

blamb   February 16th, 2008 - 10:10 pm

The Savior said, “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24).

We are required to make judgements, but to do so righteously. We shouldn’t pass final judgement on were a person’s sould is going to end up and shouldn’t pass judgement with partial information, but we should make judgements as to what activities are good and what are evil.

I’m sure Mr. Barkley would make judgements to the best of his ability as to who handles his money etc..

Tommy   February 16th, 2008 - 10:12 pm

At last MsPac has enlightened us on what Barkley’s true intentions were. He is another messiah like Obama who wants to cleanse this country of fake christians meaning conservatives and republicans and bring in the glorious years of the true christians meaning democrats and liberals.
MsPac has so intelligently argued how republicans and conservatives mean sexual perversion and adultery. God forbid we should ever use the term again. She ultimately has delivered nothing short of the gospel.
Notice she doesnt say some republicans or some conservatives. She like a master painter broadly paints the whole lot unworthy christians. She is amazing in her perception on how christian label can be used as a PR gimmick.
Finally, Barkley is an opportunist wanting to fry his eggs in an anti- conservative pan. Conservative bashing is a nice way to be noticed when you have your eyes on the Alabama governorship.
PS: MsPac, the Congress voted for war in Iraq. Get it?

Mike   February 16th, 2008 - 10:13 pm

I would take it up with the founding fathers but their dead so… that won’t be possible.

I guess we should all just live in the past and not accept the drastic changes going on around us… Wait wait.. let me go get my 2000 year old book written by men, ‘interpreted’ by other men, and see what I should do with my life so that some big giant ‘God’ in the sky will let me into my perfect soft cloud laden condo in the sky.

DIck Tuck   February 16th, 2008 - 10:13 pm

I have always thought that the NBA basketball
should be painted up to resemble a watermelon

Randy   February 16th, 2008 - 10:15 pm

Well, its good to see that the left really does practice the open mindedness and tolerance they lecture us about, getting sick when you hear about an opposing opinion. All he did was stereotype, and quite badly, a very large group of people who he is unwilling to speak with or get to know, we make him sick just hearing about us. For him to say “Fake” Christian, he must have a very fixed idea of what a true Christian is. Hes just an ignorant man, to imagine he has the knowledge to make such broad statements about people, is that a trait of a “true” Christian.

“You are correct sir. Conservatives are a uniquely american disease. The hardline religious variety is the most dangerous. Conservatives are either: 1) racist; 2) religious for personal gain; 3) religious because they are ignorant; 4) Greedy.” The person who said this is just as ignorant. Sorry to say that just because some one has a different opinion does not make them a disease, they are people like you who happen to think differently. You try to attribute the motivations of millions of people to your little 4 options born out of your own ignorance and dislike of a large group that are far from what your small minded propaganda says we are.

Kevin H   February 16th, 2008 - 10:17 pm

Listen people, if you don’t follow the teachings of Christ, then you are not a true christian. That’s all that’s being said. It’s simple. Some people have a hard time handling criticism, I understand. But the fact is, most christians are fake. That’s reality. Now, what are you going to do about it?

lin   February 16th, 2008 - 10:17 pm

Well, every time I hear the word “democrat” it makes me sick to my stomach.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 10:18 pm

Tex: “** Except everyone of you phony Christians who call yourself Conservative”

Not my statement…yours. But then you know that. ;0)

You just choose to forget that WE the PEOPLE includes Barkley & others who are sick & tired of PSEUDOChristians/PSEUDOConservatives using the label of “Christian” or “Conservative” to sell their politics. They are neither….their actions/words are neither.

Again:

Do you deny that there are folks who USE the “Christian” label merely as a PR campaign to get votes? That’s whom Barkley is taking issue with. Do you not agree that there are “Conservatives” whose actions/words are NOT reflective of TRUE Conservatism? It would be naive to deny such when it IS well-documented afterall.

Keith   February 16th, 2008 - 10:20 pm

I grew up reading the bible but these days i kinda agree with Charles…..And i believe this quote sums Christians up nicely (and accurately).

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi

Tboner   February 16th, 2008 - 10:23 pm

Hey Keith, you agree with Charles on abortion and gay marriage? I think you must have been reading something other than the bible or you would not make such shallow statements.

Paul Ambro   February 16th, 2008 - 10:23 pm

Sounds like he’s being rather “judgmental” of conservatives.

sam the sham   February 16th, 2008 - 10:25 pm

Barkley may not be the most eloquent speaker..but hey you pugnacious, violent, volatile, and just as highly judgemental conservatives. Truth hurts dunnit? You claim to be Christians, but don’t bat an eye at bloodbaths in other countries thousands of miles away on your behalfs? “Couldn’t be avoided. They hate our freedoms. They’re not Christians. Their religion is evil.” Pfah. I think Christ would spit you out. Or smack you upside the head. Don’t believe me? Re-read your bibles.

No other group besides your brothers, the Muslims, do i see so ready to punish people for their transgressions. Punishment was supposed to be left up to God, right? But I see loud mouthed conservatives always ready to draw blood and take names, due to their righteousness fueled anger. Righteousness doesn’t work well with anger, especially when you’re an imperfect being, which a human is.

Giving a few thousand dollars to a charity and taking a tax writeoff, while that charity uses 80% of those funds to pay for their own salaries and operational fees is not true charity. Especially when people are starving, or dying everywhere, and we can’t even bear to look them in the eye when they’re standing next to us in the street. Overseas and in America, and we just elect to pass the buck, or hand over some bucks, so we get our good deed points.

The true conservatives aren’t like this. And neither are true Christians. You know what time it is. You’d better get right with God, before it’s too late.

Fabian Sparkle   February 16th, 2008 - 10:26 pm

Parasite Pam wrote:

“Apparently “Mister” Barkley should “read the part about where they’re not supposed to” engage in homosexuality or the taking of human life. If he wants to stick to his beliefs, fine! But to criticize Christians for sticking to the book and rules they believe in just because they don’t comport with HIS preferences or choices…”

And maybe YOU should read the dozens and dozens of parts where God commands us to take human life:

As a Christian, you are REQUIRED to KILL the following people:

- Non-believers (Deut. 13:13-19)
- Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13)
- Unfaithful Spouses (Leviticus 20:10)
- Disobedient Children (Deut. 21)
- Anyone who works on Sunday (Exodus 31:15)
- Fortune Tellers (Leviticus 20:27)
- People who follow other religions (Exodus 22:19)
- Anyone who doesn’t listen to a Priest(Deut. 17:12)
- A woman who isn’t a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
- Blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16)
- Witches (Exodus 22:18)
- False Prophets or anyone claiming contact from another god (Deut. 18:20-22)

*All of these laws were endorsed by the “Prince of Peace” himself, Jesus, in Matthew 5:17-19

Christians DON’T “stick to the book or the rules” and that’s the problem. Anyone who followed the teachings of the bible to the letter would be considered a lunatic and placed in prison.

Phil Presley   February 16th, 2008 - 10:27 pm

Another Liberal Has Been Athlete that thinks he has a platform when he has not contributed anything to society but took millions from his employers..Just like the famous baseball player you are owed NOTHING but you should give some back

Start contributing Barkley then pop-off…Write a 7 Figure check to katrina Victims or Fire victims then you have a platform

Your entitled to your own opinion but not to your own truth

Chuck L Head   February 16th, 2008 - 10:33 pm

Well Chucky never won in the NBA and won’t buy his way into the office 7 years from now, so this is just Chucky being Chucky…….Now onto the next self righteous celeb spewing it’s mouth and getting “Mad Cash” for it

Chuckys just keepin’ it real yo

Matt   February 16th, 2008 - 10:34 pm

Fantastic. Rich, white liberals have persuaded African Americans to abort half of their children and this clown thinks conservatives are his biggest problem.

What a moron.

Dennis   February 16th, 2008 - 10:38 pm

Why do we care what an overweight ex jock who can not speak a complete sentence thinks about anything? Quick! someone get a hold of Patrick Ewing and see how he feels about this!

GWashington1776   February 16th, 2008 - 10:39 pm

….AND BARFLEY IS A “REAL FOOL”.

Erich   February 16th, 2008 - 10:40 pm

Read the Bible before you quote it… It clearly states Christians should judge but be careful we are not doing the same thing worse before hand.

Matt 7:1-5
1 – Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 – For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 – And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 – Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 – Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye

—————

II Tim 4:1-5 – Read the whole 5 versus and then re-read verse 2 notice the words “reprove and rebuke”…Charles didn’t read that verse.

1 – I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 – Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 – For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 – And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

5 – But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Mom of 4   February 16th, 2008 - 10:43 pm

Wow, Ms. Pac. You have a lot of anger and hatred for others built up inside. You need some help my dear. All these posts on this message board over the quotes of someone of little consequence in the scheme of US politics? Wow hun – get some help. There’s a lot more to life than wasting a day posting so much anger and hatred.

Kath   February 16th, 2008 - 10:45 pm

If Barkley has said this about Muslims, he’d be in so much trouble right now. It’s OK to talk down Christians, though.

The double standard is alive and well…….

Wow   February 16th, 2008 - 10:48 pm

Fabian,
That’s all Old Testament Jewish law you quoted. There’s this thing called the New Testament and another thing called the New Covenant. Christians are not justified by their obedience to the law but by their faith and works in and for Jesus Christ. Quoting scripture like that does nothing for you but make you look ignorant. One more thing, Christianity is the only religion in the world that claims you cannot earn your way to heaven (nirvana, paradise, whatever…). No matter how much law one puts in their life it will never be good enough for a perfect God. Which is why we put our faith in the one person who we believe was perfect. We are Christians, or Little Christs because we try to be like him. Jesus was hated and so are his followers (proof: your’s and many other comments above)

Sam the Sham   February 16th, 2008 - 10:48 pm

Full disclosure: I’m an independent from a Conservative family, reared Catholic, blue collar and middle class. I like some things the Liberals say, and I love the personal responsibility that Conservatives demand(now if only our “conservative” leaders could live up to their high ideals themselves. But things are always ‘do as i say and not as I do’, right?)

Reading the comments above from so-called Christians, insulting Barkley because of his race, demanding he leave the country, or justifying the things he assails ‘because Democrats are worse.’ They just help make his point. Thou shalt not kill, but since Democrats support women’s right choose to have abortions, they’re evil hypocrites. Of course a bomb with “Screw Saddam” painted on it, that blows some iraqi family up in a town no where near Saddam is perfectly ok. Because War protects good Conservative American Christian values. Let the people in Africa kill each other, we have no right to get involved. They’re backwards and will kill themselves off and everything will straighten itself out when they’re dead. Let the Chinese kill their own people and destroy their own freedoms, they give us quality products for low low prices(Welcome to Wal-Mart), so they’re great for Capitalism. Let the poor whites and blacks and latinos in America work themselves to the bone for a tiny sliver of the pie. But lets spend trillions of their tax dollars, taken away from them by the Government to pay for wars to ensure that that Government’s plans for the future are protected. But don’t spend those tax dollars taken from those poor whites, blacks, and latinos on social programs like better schools, or cheaper healthcare, or better lives for EVERYONE, because that would be ANTI-AMERICAN#!$@#$@#% OH. MY. GOD. How is spending money for Americans un-American? Oh, when a democrat thinks of doing it. Well then. And these days, conservatives think spending money should either go to war, or to billion dollar corporations owned largely foreigners. With their money and jobs going to foreign countries, because they can save money, paying some Indian a third of what is a fair wage in America. But that isn’t Anti-American?? Are you people insane? Do you lose touch with reality when confronted with all the ‘information’ the conservative supported media blasts you with? (Well that must be impossible, because the media is obviously run by the liberals. So says Rush and his hundred clones, like Beck and Hannity and even smaller shows like theirs you may have never even heard of, on hundreds of radio stations all across our country.)

Many conservatives are so sick of the Conservatives, their failed movement, and what they fail to stand for, while allowing the whole world to go to heck. times are a’changing, and The Times are a’changing.

PD   February 16th, 2008 - 10:50 pm

Who really cares what he thinks.

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 10:50 pm

Gregg, do you think conservatives really care whether you want us in this country or not? We don’t give a rat’s turd what you want, you liberal, blood sucking, low life! Why don’t you and your ilk leave this country? Then all of us RICH conservatives could move on without the constant drain of having to take care of you lazy liberals!

“How do you tell a Communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin” – Ronald Reagan

Clay   February 16th, 2008 - 10:50 pm

Would Charles have the same comments for the “fake Christians” who fought, bled and died to stop slavery too, right? Or if this were the 1860’s, is he advocating those same conservative Christians just “shut up and look the other way” and let slaves be slaves? He needs to stop confusing forgiveness with silence/apathy. To the woman who was caught in the act of adultery Christ said, “Neither do I do accuse you, GO AND SIN NO MORE.” He didn’t say “I forgive you, do whatever you want.” You can’t make abortion morally OK unless you first prove that the “thing” you are “terminating” is not a human. Good luck. You cannot redefine marriage to include anything other than one man and one woman, unless you are the One who established marriage in the first place. Genesis 2:24 (and Leviticus 18:22/Romans 1:26,27) – Mr Barkley’s problem is not so much with Christians, it’s with God.

HuckyDucky   February 16th, 2008 - 10:51 pm

Ashley,

Thanks for dragging out the tired old comparison between pro-life supporters of the death penalty.

Because you’re probably 12, let me just tell you that there is a difference between the value of the life of a cold-blooded murderer and the life of an innocent.

Thanks!

Eddie Estes   February 16th, 2008 - 10:54 pm

“From my understanding Jesus would be the last person to judge somebody for their sexual orientation, color of their skin and so on. You are the core of the hypocritical Christian conservative movement that is damaging our country beyond repair. You realize those in other civilized countries laugh at your ignorance.”

You are misinformed. Jesus came to forgive sin not to make excuses or turn a blind eye to it.
Jesus said for the woman caught in adultery she was forgiven and to SIN NO MORE.
Jesus and God are one and the same. What God the Father says is sin Jesus says is sin. Jesus died for our forgiveness of sin not so we could just live and behave any way we want to.

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 10:55 pm

Thank you “Wow”, I wish there were more christians like you in the world, it would be a kinder and more peaceful place. I’ve travelled the world, and I’ve seen the darkness and tears of misery that exist beyond our borders. This great nation, this “christian” nation, is a shining beacon for those who want to come here and live in peace. Many have forgotten that.
When my faith begins to flag, when the burden of this life starts weighing me down, I will remember your words, inspired by God. Again,thanks.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 10:57 pm

Lol…..the responses from the PseudoCons/PseudoChristians are a hoot! Barkley wasn’t talking about the TRUE Repubs…he was addressing the fake theocratic/corporate fakes who used/abused the Repub party to take control of all the government branches. It’s funny that the fakes recognize themselves in Barkley’s outing them. ;0) Can understand their vile “Christian” personal attacks on Barkley, et al…..the PseudoCon MINORITY is desperate afterall!

Hmmm……I wonder which of them will be next to have their name added on to the REPUBLICAN HALL OF SHAME list? Seems every week we read about one of them getting into trouble for prostitution, adultery, child porn/rape/abuse, illegal activities, government corruption, lying to provoke a war.
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Even two past US Presidents called out these fakes:

WISE WARNINGS FROM THE PAST:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS A POWER SOMEWHERE — SO ORGANIZED, SO SUBTLE, SO WATCHFUL, SO INTERLOCKED, SO COMPLETE, SO PERVASIVE — that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” ~~ Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom, 1913

Eisenhower’s prophecy came true:

From a letter to his brother, Edgar, November 8, 1954: (excerpt) Taken verbatim from the letter:

“Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this — in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything — even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution.

This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon “moderation” in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. THERE IS A TINY SPLINTER GROUP, of course, THAT BELIEVES YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS. AMONG THEM ARE H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), A FEW OTHER TEXAS OIL MILLIONAIRES, and AN OCCASIONAL POLITICIAN OR BUSINESS MAN from other areas. THEIR NUMBER IS NEGLIGIBLE AND THEY ARE STUPID.” ~ ike

In addition to being a war hero, a decent fellow, a moderate Republican, President Eisenhower apparently was also quite the prophet.

TRUE: SNOPES confirms this & it explains why our country is in such a mess right now.

NoShariaForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 10:58 pm

Parasite Pam:

Just listen to this clip again – the big dummy can’t even pronounce half of the words he’s trying to use! He even had to pause at the word “stomach” – that’s a difficult one! Other highlights:

“I don’t like the way the Republisana takin dis country.”

“But I’m ommah vote Democratic.”

“And in two sousand fourteen I promise you ima run for Governor Alabama.” (Who IS Governor Alabama anyway?!?)

“You ha ta ha resisdesy fah for seven years, an I baw mah house….”

“They caint do anything ta me.”

“I feel very cuntherbull sayin’ pro I’m pro cho-ice.”

And the hypocritical part:

“Well they should read the part about where they’re not supposed to judge other people. They forget that one when it doesn’t fit what they wanna say.”

Hahahaha! This is too funny! The man needs to learn how to speak English!

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:00 pm

“I am a Conservative and I am agnostic. I’m I still a fake Christian, Sir Chuck?”

Silly question. Obviously not…UNLESS you’re guilty of claiming to be a “Christian” for the sake of politicking & thus contracting yourself to be judged accordingly to the standard ‘being a Christian’ demands. Have you been? ;0)

Could Barkley have worded his thoughts to be more specific? Yes. He goofed this big time but anybody with a few functioning brain cells understands what he was trying to say about the PseudoChristianCons.

Don’t forget that he said he has respect for McCain. Obviously, he isn’t enveloping ALL Conservatives into his rant.

As a comparison: look at the difference in campaigning between McCain & Huckleberry. Huck is over-using a “Christian” label to sell himself as a presidential candidate. He’d better be prepared to be held accountable to it. I guess that’s all he’s got as a platform on.

Doug   February 16th, 2008 - 11:00 pm

I just love all the Christian compassion and peace that passes understanding, that is represented in most of the comments posted here. What wonderful witnesses you are for you’re lord and savior. I would gladly suffer an eternity in hell, before I’d spend more than ten minutes with any of you. I think you actually believe that if Jesus were alive today, he would be a white American, card carrying republican. Disgusting!!

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:04 pm

He’s not judging “Christians”…he’s judging PSEUDO-Christians. There IS a difference.

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“I am a Conservative and I am agnostic. I’m I still a fake Christian, Sir Chuck?”

Silly question. Obviously not…UNLESS you’re guilty of claiming to be a “Christian” for the sake of politicking & thus contracting yourself to be judged accordingly to the standard ‘being a Christian’ demands. Have you been? ;0)

Could Barkley have worded his thoughts to be more specific? Yes. He goofed this big time but anybody with a few functioning brain cells understands what he was trying to say about the PseudoChristianCons.

Don’t forget that he said he has respect for McCain. Obviously, he isn’t enveloping ALL Conservatives into his rant.

As a comparison: look at the difference in campaigning between McCain & Huckleberry. Huck is over-using a “Christian” label to sell himself as a presidential candidate. He’d better be prepared to be held accountable to it. I guess that’s all he’s got as a platform on.

backatcha   February 16th, 2008 - 11:10 pm

Who is being judgemental? Not-so-little Charles apparenlty doesn’t like it when people don’t share his views, so he decides to castigate those who disagree.

Some Governor he’ll be. Vote for him, Alabama, and you get what you deserve.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:12 pm

He wasn’t judging “Christians”…he was calling out the PSEUDO-Christians. There is a difference. You true Christians don’t have a problem with “false prophets”? You would continue to let them mislead the “flock”?
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“I am a Conservative and I am agnostic. I’m I still a fake Christian, Sir Chuck?”

Silly question. Obviously not…UNLESS you’re guilty of claiming to be a “Christian” for the sake of politicking & thus contracting yourself to be judged accordingly to the standard ‘being a Christian’ demands. Have you been? ;0)

Could Barkley have worded his thoughts to be more specific? Yes. He goofed this big time but anybody with a few functioning brain cells understands what he was trying to say about the PseudoChristianCons.

Don’t forget that he said he has respect for McCain. Obviously, he isn’t enveloping ALL Conservatives into his rant.

As a comparison: look at the difference in campaigning between McCain & Huckleberry. Huck is grandstanding with the “Christian” label to sell himself as a presidential candidate. He’d better be prepared to be held accountable to it. I guess that’s all he’s got as a platform on.

liberals smell   February 16th, 2008 - 11:16 pm

liberals are idiots and charles smells like a hoagie !

Eddie Estes   February 16th, 2008 - 11:18 pm

“One Error: (Daniel 8:10 KJV) Star can be knocked to the ground and stomped on!”"
You DO have this out of context. It was speaking of a vision that Daniel had. Nowhere does it say it wasn’t.

One Contradiction: II Kings 8:26 – “Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.” II Chronicles 22:2 – “Fourty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.”

“One Failed Prophecy: (Jeremiah 9:11) “I will make Jerusalem heaps and a den of dragons; I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.” Do I really need to point out that Jerusalem isn’t a “den of dragons” and that Judah has never been uninhabited? Furthermore, should a book that makes prophecies about dragons really be taken seriously by a reasonable person?”

The Romans did make Jerusalem desolate

“(I Timothy 2:11-15) “I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” Women are not allowed to speak, teach, or have authority over any man.”

In our society which ruled by civil law this cannot be enforced but it is in many churches.

“(Genesis 9:20-27) Black people are the result of a curse and deserve to spend their lives as slaves. Based on the genealogy provided by the bible, all blacks are descended from Ham. Genesis 10:6 references Ham’s sons as Cush, Mizraim, and Canaan.

Cush (Kush) is a Hebraic word meaning “black.”

Mizraim is a Semitic word for Egypt which was populated mostly by blacks.

Canaan was also an area inhabited predominately by blacks.

In biblical times, no one understood why people were different colors. This was the explanation given for the existence of black people. They are the result of a curse.

Need more evidence? Jeremiah 13:23 asks “can a Kushite change his skin?” The Jewish Talmud, which is the precursor of the modern bible, explains, “Kush, lineage of Ham, shall become black because of the curse…” Another verse states, “the crow and the Kushite shall become black because of their wrongdoings.”

Do you believe this 1st century explanation for the appearance of the black race?”

Nowhere in Genesis does it say that anyone was turned black. You simply made this up.

You asked for ONE example of each and that is what I have provided. Rest assured, though, that I could provide hundreds and hundreds of similar passages that reveal endless errors in your infallible magic book.

Beyond that, let me address this comment:
“But as Jesus died, He cried from the cross, “It is finished!” That law has been fulfilled, and because He fulfilled that law, man can now approach the throne of God. But in fulfilling that law, ushered in grace… God’s grace. This is what a true Christian practices, grace. Grace does not require punishment as the law once did.

Have you read the bible, sir? You’re speaking of dispensationalism and the concept of “grace.” That’s not what Jesus taught. Jesus taught adherence to the Old Testament laws and the bible teaches that God is unchanging.

Jesus says quite clearly in Matthew 5:17-18 that he did not come to destroy the laws of the prophets, but to “uphold them… every jot and tittle… until the law is fulfilled.” That means, according to the teachings of Jesus,
every law handed down to Moses applies to this day!

(Hebrews 13:8) “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” If Jesus is unchanging and he came to uphold the laws of the Old Testament, what case can be made for following some of the laws of the Old Testament (Ten Commandments), while ignoring others (stoning people to death)?

The Old Testament laws were also endorsed in other parts of the gospel: “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John 1:17) and (John 7:19) “For the law was given by Moses…”

The simple fact is that the OT law is still in effect, whether you want to adhere to it or not. The Ten Commandments are in the OT.

Jesus came because we as humans are unable to follow the law exactly. He came to fulfill the law .

As soon as you give credence to books exposing evolutions errors I might read the book you mentioned!

Bob Patterson   February 16th, 2008 - 11:18 pm

Charles has one good point. He said that Christians are not to be judgmental. The Bible says, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” (Matthew 7:1)

However, the Bible spends a great deal of time explaining that Christians are to use discernment, not to mention that Christians are to separate themselves from those who do not live lives in harmone with Scriptural principles. (2 Corinthians 6:17)

Christians are to measure every are of life with the truths of Scripture, and base EVERYTHING upone those principles.

For example, the Bible condemns homosexuality, and states that God turned those who practice such wickedness over to a reprobate mind, and is literally worthy of death. (Romans 1:23-31)

As far as abortion, anyone who kills a human life is worthy of death themselves. Human life begins at conception. Period. It is not only a scientific fact, but also referenced in Scripture. Psalm 139:13 states that God’s protection was on him from his Mother’s womb.

I would submit to Charles that anyone who would assasinate their baby before birth is no less guilty of murder than any serial assasin that has ever lived. In fact, it is even more heinous since they have either taken or have authorized the taking of a human life of the absolute most vulnerable.

So, Mr. Charles Barkley, your words spoken from the depths of your heart only further illustrate another verse in scripture which states: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 13:9)

The wonderful thing about true, genuine Christians, however, is that we serve a God who (while Just and Righteous) is a forgiving God, and is willing to forgive sin. 1 John 1:9 states: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

God is willing to forgive you, Charles Barkley, because your sins have already been paid for on the Cross of Christ. You simply need to receive the gift of eternal life, by simply praying a prayer of forgiveness for your sin, and God promises you a place in the family of God, and a home in Heaven after death.

The alternative is to refuse the gift of eternal life (there is nothing you can do by yourself to merit Heaven – e.g. attempt to live a good life). The penalty for that is eternal separation from God after this life is over, and the eternal condemnation in Hell. It sounds harsh, but it’s a fact.

As much as I am sickened by your words, I wouldn’t wish Hell on you or anyone else who believes the way you do. Let’s not forget, Christ didn’t die on the cross for righteous people (there is no such thing, anyway), He died on the cross for sinful people (which is ALL of us).

I truly hope these words reach you…

J. Alejandro   February 16th, 2008 - 11:23 pm

What a genius! First he says that what gays do is none of his business and then he says he is for gay marriage. He should fit in with Obama voters. Another great addition to the Democrat’s gene pool!

Eddie Estes   February 16th, 2008 - 11:23 pm

“It didn’t matter whether they called themselves “Republicans” or “Democrats”…..they were “Southern CONSERVATIVES” firstly.”

They were Southern racists. No true conservative would be racist. It is only because we have let the lib media label us as racist.

Conservatives don’t want to hire or promote anyone because of their color. Liberals do.
Affirmative action as has been practiced is racism.
Hire the best person regardless of color!!!!
If she/he is black and is the most qualified hire them. If it is reversed and they are white, brown, purple hire them. It is that easy!!!!

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:24 pm

“Ok everyone I have to confess that I was just joking about supporting Charles Barkley.None of that stuff I posted about republicans is true,I just made it up.I actually voted for George W Bush twice…Conservatives Rock!”

Hot dang…we can use each other’s postnames? Didn’t know that. The above text was written by someone else using my postname of MsPac. Funny! Very funny! Indeed…I agree….TRUE Conservatives do rock. But this wasn’t about sex was it? ;0)

J. Alejandro   February 16th, 2008 - 11:26 pm

He criticizes conservatives for being fake Christians because they judge others, but then he proceeds to judge conservative Christians as fakes!

robert   February 16th, 2008 - 11:27 pm

Barkley let me ask you something…you are pro choice ? Are you pro choice for womens other needs ? What about her needs to protect her self -pro choice on gun control ? what about the need to educate herself as she sees appropriate – pro school vouchers? I doubt it right…you are just being controlled by media who glorifies the evil sides of issues to bring society lower to advance their own capitalistic manipulation of the masses. You want to be glorified so you are aligning your self with the only known glorifying god you know – the madison avenue creative mentality which spills over to permeate american culture . You need to see you need a real worthy God who will liberate you from your bondage and give you eternal life for free if you would only believe.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:28 pm

Hot dang…we can use each other’s postnames? Didn’t know that. The above text attributed to me was written by someone else using my postname of MsPac. Funny! Very funny! Indeed…I agree….TRUE Conservatives do rock. But this wasn’t about sex was it? ;0)

NoTenCommandmentsForMe   February 16th, 2008 - 11:29 pm

Hey – Di you know that NoShariaLaw4me…

is a moron. Obviously showing his/her total ignorance and utter bigotry. You think Jesus spoke perfect Hebrew?

You think jesus the peasant spoke perfect Latin?

No…probably not. like most moronic christians you probably think he spoke Perfect English.

Drop your religion and step away from the bible now!

Peter   February 16th, 2008 - 11:31 pm

Gives good meaning “Shut up and ” play basketball. Has this guy been smoking crack? He truly has sh#t for brains.

John   February 16th, 2008 - 11:37 pm

Barkley is just another dumb jock, so consider the source.

Just a man...   February 16th, 2008 - 11:41 pm

Dear “NoTenCommandmentsForMe”, I guess, “thou shallt not kill”, Doesn’t apply to you anymore. So go ahead, mister moral relativist, go and kill somebody, NOW,TODAY!!!! How about starting with your family??? Huh, since you don’t need or believe in God’s laws. …oh,that’s right, I forgot. My apologies, I forgot that leftist often speak without thinking. I’m sure that you actually do accept a few of the “Ten Commandments”.
Probably NOT the ones about lying, stealing, adultery, or coveting ANOTHER’S PROPERTY. I guess you and your ilk can live without those few, huh. Hypocrites….

Georgie   February 16th, 2008 - 11:42 pm

Everytime I hear the word “charles barkely” I get sick..

Macon Hardy   February 16th, 2008 - 11:42 pm

Great! Barkley is for murdering the baby inside of a mother’s womb and for unnatural relations considered against against God’s law by Jew, Christian, and muslim.
He says conservative means fake Christians. I know conservatives who are not Christians. That was a dumb statement. Conservative means low taxes, less government, less governement spending, balanced budgets, putting the trust in the people and not the governent to make the best decisions for their lives.
Mr. Barkley should stick to basketball instead of insulting people who refuse to murder their baby and commit indecent acts such as homosexuality that do not procreate the human species.

Mike in Calif   February 16th, 2008 - 11:44 pm

I am a fan of Barkley’s comments about Basketball. Not because I always agree, but because they are entertaining and unpredictable. But the fact that he would insult Conservatives and Christians in a Bible belt state like Alabama shows he doesn’t have the judgment or wisdom to be Governor. Even Wolf Blitzer (no conservative he) seemed to wince at Barkley’s comments and even gave him a chance to back down a little. Barkley was too stupid to get the hint.

MsPac_   February 16th, 2008 - 11:46 pm

Hot dang…we can use each other’s postnames? Didn’t know that. The above text attributed to me was written by someone else using my postname of MsPac. Funny! Very funny! Indeed…I agree….TRUE Conservatives do rock. But this wasn’t about sex was it? ;0)
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“He is for gay marriage and is pro-choice!

What does that make him?”

Honest.

HuckyDucky   February 16th, 2008 - 11:47 pm

I’ve got stuff growing in my yard that’s smarter than Charles Barkley.

Hey Sir Charles, go ahead run in Alabama on a platform of pro-choice and gay marriage.

You are a genius.

JJ Morales   February 16th, 2008 - 11:48 pm

Can I run against Charles Barkley? He’s so ignorant that its funny. He has no clue about anything except stuffing his fat face. Last time I checked STUPID CHUCK, Alabama has a lot of conservatives. Chucky can be for gay marriage and abortion all he wants, but he will never win in the South, especially Alabama, with those lame issues. Chuck go marry a guy and have an abortion too!

Willy   February 16th, 2008 - 11:51 pm

Stupid greedy Christians.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:51 pm

Let’s take a look at just who Barkley is talkling about:

You remember them, guys like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggert who never flinched at taking their flocks’ money but somehow managed to use at least part of it for some sweet young stuff.

Just a feew more:

The fourth highest person in the vaunted Department of Homeland Security, Brian Doyle..arrested & convicted on 23 charges related to the use of a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful materials to a minor.

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania pled no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo of Floyd County, Kentucky was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins of Asbury Park, New Jersey pled guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker of Nashua, New Hampshire is a convicted child molester.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls.

Republican Mayor John Gosek of Oswego, New York was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz of Richland County, Ohio pled guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican Speaker of the Puerto Rico House of Representatives Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain of Monroe County, Pennsylvania was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth of Kannapolis, N.C., is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader of Witchita, Kansas pled guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency of Camden, New Jersey pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge of Soputhbay, California was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz of Des Moines, Iowa, who George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble of New London, Connecticut pled no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer of Arizona was charged with molesting his 9-year old step daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. and Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence both of Washington, D.C. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens of Columbus, Ohio was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio of Burke, Virginia was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen of Colorado Springs. Colorado was convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney of El Paso County, Arizona pled guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane of Illinois had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition and South Carolina Republican leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline of Orange County, California was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman of Maryland was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman and attorney Jeffrey Patti of Sparta, New Jersey was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman of Florida (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. It was Glickman, interestingly enough, that claimed Bill Clinton came from a low rent state and had torn down all of the standards for the highest office in the land.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks of Quartz Hill, California was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway who had relocated to Maine from Huntsville, Alabama after having been accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White of West Chester, Pennsylvania, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston, Texas pled guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling of Anderson, Indiana was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington pled guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan of St. Louis, Missouri was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr, also of St. Louis, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland of Kingsport, Tennessee was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt of Pensacola, Florida was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs of Hawaii County, Hawaii pled guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler of Cass County, Illinois was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner of Clark County, Nevada admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner of Lancaster, Pennsylvania was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter of Boothbay, Maine pled guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. of Wrightsville Borough, Delaware pled no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall of Virginia was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris of West Bend, Wisconsin, who has been described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo of Bakersfield, California molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp, Russell Harding, pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen, Sr. of Kalispell, Montana, was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

These are all matters of public record, not hearsay.

MsPac   February 16th, 2008 - 11:53 pm

Other posters can use our postnames? Didn’t know that. Funny! I didn’t write the last post attributed to me. However, I do agree that “Conservatives Rock!”. But the thread topic wasn’t about sex, was it? ;0)

“He is for gay marriage and is pro-choice!

What does that make him?”

Honest.

The Truth   February 16th, 2008 - 11:56 pm

Christianity is a farce people. It’s the Greek mythology of the day, and it will be regarded as so in the future. Barkley is a moron who should stick to being a badly spoken NBA commentator. That being said, I’m a fiscal conservative, and if the Republicans would find a candidate who wasn’t looking to govern our personal business he/she would have my vote in a second.

Just a man...   February 17th, 2008 - 12:01 am

Dear MsPac, SO WHHHAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D Black   February 17th, 2008 - 12:01 am

Wait a minute Charles…Who is passing judgment on who? Easy swinging that broad brush around your glass house.

FooFighter   February 17th, 2008 - 12:04 am

Too bad Charles mother wasn’t pro-choice.

(I wonder who he wants to gay-marry?)

Tommy   February 17th, 2008 - 12:07 am

This big lout has crap in his brains. All play and no study has made this guy a moron.

WiseMom   February 17th, 2008 - 12:08 am

Actual, Mikey, MsPac was the one being attacked. She didn’t “attack” anybody but only countered their attacks with reason & facts. She did a good job too! All her posts about the Republican scandals were true & verifiable. Sorry. Know that’s not what you wanted to hear but then again, I get the feeling you don’t like hearing the truth.

Mark   February 17th, 2008 - 12:09 am

Gee, this is funny. Liberals are far more hateful and controlling than conservatives. Conservatives seek individual freedom and self rule. Liberals seek government control of the individual and lack of freedom.

While I find Mr. Barkley to be a good ball player I don’t think he is qualified as an authority on the subject. It has been my experience that those with this type of reaction are actually very poor Christians and really don’t know anything about it.

This is a subjective evaluation, up to the person.

1st Responder   February 17th, 2008 - 12:10 am

Nice list, MsPuke, I could come with a list of leftist NEOCOMMS, {Democrat,liberals,etc,} twice as long as yours, but it’s such a pretty day I think I’ll go outside and play with my children. Gotta keep an eye on them kids of mine anyhow, just in case someone like you comes lurking around.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 12:10 am

“Dear MsPac, SO WHHHAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

You just validated Barkley’s comments as truth with your foolish response. ;0)

Where’s the outrage from you unrighteous right “Christians” regarding the REPUBLICAN HALL of SHAMERS? You CONDONE their behavior???

I’m just getting warmed up. Next to come: the adulterers.

Barkley should have clarified that he wasn’t referring to genuine Conservative Christians (of which I am one). I agree with him…there ARE folks who label themselves as “Christian”….but who’s words & actions are anything but.

The above list is only a few of the “fakes” to whom Barkely refers. You think they are “Christian” in their behavior??? That’s being a hypocrite, “justaman”.

rlr   February 17th, 2008 - 12:15 am

Draw a Venn diagram with Conservatives to one side (I suppose the right would be appropriate) and Christians to the other side (unfortunately to the left if you followed my previous scheme) having the circles somewhat overlap. The graphic illustrates the reality that some Conservatives are Christians but not all, which is common sense. Charles in his infinite wisdom will have none of this, insisting that the circles be drawn to his specifications of how the universe is constructed. The circles must be drawn nonintersecting. The man who would be Governor does not inconvenience himself with logic. Will the multitudes flock to his laser thinking? Will they be lead by his clarion call? Uh, probably.

Frederick   February 17th, 2008 - 12:16 am

I am thankful that there are abortions. Charles is a perfect example of why abortions are necessary. With all his money he is still just a stupid, hateful, slave to the Democratic Party. Basically, a cross between the village idiot and a circus clown.

Hey Charles who freed the slaves Democrats or Republicans?

Hammer   February 17th, 2008 - 12:20 am

Wow, he sounds really dumb.

wacky mspacky   February 17th, 2008 - 12:20 am

Wow thats a long list and wouldn’t you know it not one democrat made the cut….anyone that obtains,keeps and repeats that much onesided info appears to reek of a mental illness.You do seem concerned about the children though so I will just add one thing to your list.

Democrat controlled Congress and Democrat controlled Supreme Court responsible for over 40 million babies being killed since Roe V Wade back in the 1970’s.i’m surprised you forgot to add that to your list of evil doers.

Daniel   February 17th, 2008 - 12:21 am

Barkley has one point. There are many “fake” Christians out there. There are a lot of hypocrites that call themselves Christian. However, for those who haven’t studied the Bible cover-to-cover (reading is easy, studying takes time) Jesus Himself told His people not to be like hypocrites at least 20 times in the new testament. One could easily make the statement that anyone who is acting like a hypocrite is NOT being Christian in that Christians are supposed to be like Jesus Christ. In other words, have you run into any hypocrites? Then they’re not accurately representing Jesus. Can they be forgiven? Yes. Is everyone automatically forgiven of every sin? No.

The Bible says that Jesus died for our sins, but you have to keep reading. Jesus also said we need to “repent” of our sins, which means TURN AWAY and not do them anymore. A person who truly turns away from their sins AND calls on the name of Jesus is forgiven an will receive salvation through the presence of the Holy Spirit, but a simple “I’m sorry God” just won’t do it. God’s loving and merciful, but He’s also just. It’s like killing someone and telling the judge “oh, I’m sorry about that.” Any good judge will say “sorry or not, you’re going to pay for your crime.” Jesus paid the price for our sins, but we still have to ACCEPT His offer of salvation. Without true repentance, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit there is no salvation, and no forgiveness of our sins. You don’t believe me? The Bible’s there, look it up. Feel free.

Sam the Sham   February 17th, 2008 - 12:21 am

Just a Man, so..everyone is capable of vile acts. Even conservative christians. Barkley does indeed wield a wide brush, but before everyone here attacks with false outrage in the form of a schoolyard pile-on, realize: there are a great deal christian conservative leaders who are not fit to lead. Who are not fit to represent good conservatives, who are terrible christians in need of some serious self-examination. These people don’t deserve to be defended or protected. They deserve to be dragged out into the light, admonished, and put on the path toward redemption.

Barkley’s mistake was that he didn’t mention the many conservatives who live right and do right and follow the Golden Rule, what Jesus brought to replace the old and outdated laws of Moses. But you know what? Those conservatives would only shake their heads at Barkleys words, and would move on. I suspect a lot of the people making above comments know in their hearts that they aren’t as good followers of Christ as they could be.

And last I checked, abortion, gay marriage, and gun control weren’t as big on Christ’s list as loving your fellow man and turning the other cheek and challenging authority when that authority does wrong. Unfortunately, there have been many times in this country’s past where being a true Christian has been inconvinient for politics if not downright un-Patriotic. Oh yeah, and the people in Jesus’s time and even before had methods of birth control. They could consume large amounts of certain seeds or plant extracts that would cause a pregnancy to cease in its earliest terms. And guess what? It wasn’t illegal or blasphemous. You won’t see it even mentioned in the Bible.

The Conservative Political movement these last few decades wanted to get votes by claiming the moral rightness and righteousness and superiority. They’re the keepers of everything good, and Godly, and if you’re against them you must be a Godless liberal? People, if you won’t wake up, we’ll lose this country. It’ll be taken right from under your noses, and sold to the Chinese and the Arabs and the European corporate interests, and those good Christian Conservatives? They won’t invite you to their new villas in Milan, or their private islands in the Pacific. Nor will you see them at your church.

greg   February 17th, 2008 - 12:22 am

Barkley standing representing the NBA with their logo behind him has finished my NBA support. I wont attend games with these type of fools on the court. Tell the Sacramento Kings they and Stern can shove it. All we can do is quit attending these sporting events. I wont spend my money to support a league that puts up with buffoons like the mound of stupidity. Ill do all I can to stop the arena project, we don’t need to be taxed to pay for these uneducated clowns to abuse citizens.

CCH   February 17th, 2008 - 12:23 am

What can you expect from a basketball player?? All height and no brains.

Barkley is one of the worst examples of humanity – calling some of the best examples “bad”?

Give me a break.

Needs to learn to speak correclty as well.

Good luck in a gubernatorial race.

The old adage; “better to be silent and let someone to suspect you are an idiot rather than opening your mouth and proving it.”

(Do they educate these basketball guys anymore??)

Common Sense   February 17th, 2008 - 12:25 am

MsPac.

You left out the rapes and assaults committed by Bill Clinton. Adding Don Rummsfeld to your list negated any clout you hoped to gain. It showed you to be just another BDS sufferer with no common sense. Remember Barney Frank and the gay whore service he was running out of his house in DC? Bloomberg calls himself a republican in NYC, but he’s anything but. The title makes you nothing, it’s what you do that makes who you are. Moron.

Michael   February 17th, 2008 - 12:26 am

Actually, Greg, historically, fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology. If you truly “used to be a liberal”, you would have known that.

David   February 17th, 2008 - 12:28 am

The poor guy is not making any sense. Being opposed to something is judging, so i guess Christians should never be opposed to anything. OK let the slaughter of babies continue, we don’t want judge.

Maybe we should start allowing armed robbery, arson, vandalism, theft and rape, afterall who are we to judge those who prefer to do those things.

mIKE   February 17th, 2008 - 12:32 am

Amen to that

I find it funny that Conservatives are against gay marriage and abortion which does match with their religion

but are against government programs that help the poor people

NEWSFLASH: Jesus was about helping poor people and being a forgiving person

Charles is correct!

Tommy   February 17th, 2008 - 12:32 am

Dear MsPac,

Nothing compares to getting a warm bj in the oval office after the sunday morning church service.

Duke   February 17th, 2008 - 12:35 am

There’s an awful lot of hatred and bigotry wrapped up in Mr. Barkley.

Methinks he should stick to stuffing Big Macs in his mouth instead of shooting off on television.

ashley   February 17th, 2008 - 12:35 am

So funny how people will use the “baby killer” attack and the “murderer” attack. It is funny because these are the first people to jump on the death penalty bandwagon. So is it murder or not? Are you for murder or not? So confused. And do not even try to use the bible…”eye for an eye” because it also says “turn the other cheek”…it says to judge and then it says not to judge. I guess we just pick which sentence to believe based on what makes us feel more comfortable. Yeah…that makes sense.

Bob Patterson   February 17th, 2008 - 12:37 am

Charles has one good point. He said that Christians are not to be judgmental. The Bible says, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” (Matthew 7:1)

However, the Bible spends a great deal of time explaining that Christians are to use discernment, not to mention that Christians are to separate themselves from those who do not live lives in harmone with Scriptural principles. (2 Corinthians 6:17)

Christians are to measure every are of life with the truths of Scripture, and base EVERYTHING upon those principles.

For example, the Bible condemns homosexuality, and states that God turned those who practice such wickedness over to a reprobate mind, and is literally worthy of death. (Romans 1:23-31)

As far as abortion, anyone who kills a human life is worthy of death themselves. Human life begins at conception. Period. It is not only a scientific fact, but also referenced in Scripture. Psalm 139:13 states that God’s protection was on him from his Mother’s womb.

I would submit to Charles that anyone who would assasinate their baby before birth is no less guilty of murder than any serial assasin that has ever lived. In fact, it is even more heinous since they have either taken or have authorized the taking of a human life of the absolute most vulnerable.

So, Mr. Charles Barkley, your words spoken from the depths of your heart only further illustrate another verse in scripture which states: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 13:9)

The wonderful thing about true, genuine Christians, however, is that we serve a God who (while Just and Righteous) is a forgiving God, and is willing to forgive sin. 1 John 1:9 states: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

God is willing to forgive you, Charles Barkley, because your sins have already been paid for on the Cross of Christ. You simply need to receive the gift of eternal life, by simply praying a prayer of forgiveness for your sin, and God promises you a place in the family of God, and a home in Heaven after death.

The alternative is to refuse the gift of eternal life (there is nothing you can do by yourself to merit Heaven – e.g. attempt to live a good life). The penalty for that is eternal separation from God after this life is over, and the eternal condemnation in Hell. It sounds harsh, but it’s a fact.

As much as I am sickened by your words, I wouldn’t wish Hell on you or anyone else who believes the way you do. Let’s not forget, Christ didn’t die on the cross for righteous people (there is no such thing, anyway), He died on the cross for sinful people (which is ALL of us).

I truly hope these words reach you…

Mike   February 17th, 2008 - 12:38 am

Greg, historically, fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology. If you truly “used to be a liberal”, you would have known that.

Idiot finder   February 17th, 2008 - 12:43 am

Jesus4America, you’re as dumb as Barkley. ‘Jesus never said one thing in the Bible pro or con about homosexuals’. Whoopdicrap dummy! Because Jesus didn’t say something makes it okay? Is this the statement you’re sticking with? Is this your mind-blowing argument? Jesus never said anything about rape, incest or bestiality either so by your genius argument, those were okay with Jesus also. Leviticus 20:13 CLEARLY states ‘If a man also lies with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.’ It doesn’t get much more clear than that, dimwit. I suggest before you illiterate malcontents make really ignorant statements concerning Christians and their ‘hypocrisy’ you should really get a single clue as to what you are talking about. People stating an action is wrong is not judgement or hypocrisy. Would you tell someone robbing your home to go ahead and take what they want because you wouldn’t want to judge them? Is stupidity a virus because it’s spreading like one. Such WEAK arguments. A candidate stating his hatred for another party or group of people is NOT a platform but it seems to be all the left has remaining and no ideas of their own. Attack, hate and misrepresent. Take all eyes off their plans to destroy this country. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

popsicle   February 17th, 2008 - 12:46 am

Someone pointed out the existance in old testament law of some very harsh punishments for breaking Gods law. I believe this law was intended to show how ALL men would be doomed without Gods forgiveness. In other words, for the really bad sinner, mosaic law was hell on earth. Jesus did away with that old law and replaced in with the law that can work, the law of faith, repentance, and forgiveness.

Nevertheless, an eternal doom sadly, yes SADLY awaits those who do not repent or forgive. But it is not our place to turn up the flames of Hell. That is Gods authority and HIS ALONE.

GeorgeB   February 17th, 2008 - 12:48 am

Historically,Greg, fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology. If you truly “used to be a liberal”, you would have known that.

greg   February 17th, 2008 - 12:53 am

It’s a shame the NBA has these type of bigots representing the sport. He stands in front of the NBA logo of a Christian Jerry West and calls him a fake. The NBA hires this bigot to represent the game. We in Sacramento are so glad we quit supporting the Kings and the NBA. Let non Christians buy the Maloofs tickets. As a Catholic and a Christian I will cancel my season tickets at the end of this season I just cant support a league who hires bigots like Barkley any longer.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 12:56 am

“Wow thats a long list and wouldn’t you know it not one democrat made the cut…”

But then the Dems aren’t the subject of this thread, are they? Nice try to morph the thread… though it’s not going to work. ;0) It is widely recognized that the PR campaigns, soapbox rants & slogans for the PseudoCon/PseudoChristian radicals has been/is their “Christian values”. And THAT is what we are discussing here afterall. To that end…you all have FAILED to disprove that a single one of those few listed PseudoRepub sex abuse cases is false. You have FAILED to prove that they are real “Christians”. These are the folks to which Barkley is referring afterall. By not disproving the cases as false…you are essentially agreeing with Barkley & the rest of us TRUE Christians. Your silence about their illicit, non-Christian behavior indicates you condone it. That you don’t seem to understand that is amusing. ;0)

When your ‘leaders’ are caught NOT following the Christian values you PseudoRepubs so widely soapbox as important in selecting elected officials….you IGNORE their perverted, NON-Christian behaviors. Why is that???

You are inferring that it is OK…as long as they call themselves “Republican”. You Pseudos are such hypocrits & your responses (& lack of appropriately directed replies at the “fake Christians” listed above) only demonstrates this. And you don’t seem to “get it”. LOL!!

Listen…the sound of crickets…not ONE of the PseudoCon posters here voiced appall at the list of PseudoRepub child abusers….NOT A ONE!!! UNBELIEVABLE! Bartkley is on-target about these folks. Thank goodness they are the MINORITY, huh? Why do they hate children? Why do they hate the teachings of Jesus Christ?? Why do they protect & remain silent when their own flock blatantly blaspheme the “Christian” faith they profess to have exclusive ownership of???

Of course, there have been mental health studies as to what makes these folks think & behave as they do….hmmm….when I get back from running errands, I’ll have to dig them out from the archives. ;0)

Ed   February 17th, 2008 - 12:56 am

Historically,Greg, fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology. If you truly “used to be a liberal”, you would have known that.

Joe Conservative   February 17th, 2008 - 12:58 am

I cant see Charles becoming governor of any state but if he ran for mayor of San Francisco,he might win that.

maceanruig   February 17th, 2008 - 12:59 am

Why is it that people like this idiot who have absolutely no idea what the Bible teaches think they know when Christians are supposed to judge and when they are not supposed to judge? That’s not what that verse says: go read it yourself. It says “judge not lest you be judged.” Not “Do not judge.” It then describes the right way to go about judging.

AuH20   February 17th, 2008 - 12:59 am

Barkley is never one to shy away from inflamatory or controversial remarks. He being an Auburn University attendee (more than likely did NOT graduate)his lack of intelligence is hysterical ….Please run I would love to see how you will defend your position to the Democratic unions for your ownership of a Toyota dealership.

y2kcockroach   February 17th, 2008 - 1:01 am

Barkley didn’t go far enough. Christians are fake, period. Being a Christian simply means wanting desperately to believe in an imaginary friend who lives in the clouds, and in a magical place that doesn’t exist (sort of a Disneyland for dead people). At some point (most) people will evolve to understand that science is real, and imaginary friends in clouds are not. If people do not evolve to that stage the human race is doomed. In the meantime, you don’t need to be a Christian in order to be peaceful, tolerant, respectful, considerate and charitable. The only reason to be a Christian is because you are afraid of dying, and need an imaginary friend in the clouds, and a magical place to die to, in order to get you through your day.

steve   February 17th, 2008 - 1:02 am

What a complete idiot Barkley continues to make of himself. He should take a long hard look at the people he asociates with. Talk about fake, just look at the NBA Thugs with all of the ink plastered all-over their bodies. TNT and the NBA have a fine representative in this clown.

BILL5321   February 17th, 2008 - 1:03 am

Without question Barkley would be better off talking less and reading more.

Bob   February 17th, 2008 - 1:05 am

Charles,
Reading this post, you sure hit a nerve! Spot on, I’d say. Truth hurts! A lot of these folks on this post attacking you sound like the Taliban with their rigid interpretation of right and wrong. Thanks for saying what so many are afraid to.

GentleCynic   February 17th, 2008 - 1:05 am

MsPac,

Please find “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes for Political Madness”. Very much related to this thread. Liberals have no morals, so very rarely are they ever held accountable for anything.

Barkley has gristle for brains.

Chris   February 17th, 2008 - 1:11 am

What an idiot. First of all, right after the verse that it says “judge not, that ye be not judged”. It says that basically if you judge someone be prepared to be judged by the same standard. If you read the whole scripture it clearly does not say that you shouldn’t judge people.

Secondly, The Christians I know never claim that they are perfect, everyone makes mistakes. The point of Christianity is to live as Christ like as possible, and when we make mistakes repent and try to learn from them. And as we learn from these mistakes we become better people and a better society. I love it when the hedonists of the world point at imperfect Christians and then somehow use it to condone their own worldly behavior.

Third, Barkley himself claims to be a Christian and then proclaims to be pro gay marriage and pro choice. When in fact the bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. And there is no way a true Christian can honestly say that Christ would ever condone abortion. Let alone promote abortion as so many pro choice people do.

Michael McCloskey   February 17th, 2008 - 1:11 am

Charles, I respect your opinion as it pertains to basketball. But really, that’s not saying much.

Just another example of the kind of genius public figure that endorses the Democrat party.

killerbee   February 17th, 2008 - 1:13 am

MsPac, many of the crimes you’ve listed that Republican’s have commited have to do with sexual content against minors. Very horrendous, indeed. These Republican’s have demonstrated a weakness mankind has. Of course, your wacky liberal party FUNDS THE ACLU WHO DEFENDS NAMBLA (national man boy love asscociation). YOUR PARTY PAYS FOR THE RIGHTS OF PEDOPHIALS TO MOLEST CHILDREN. You lib’s are mental!!

The Falcon   February 17th, 2008 - 1:24 am

Remember the time when you punched that 8 year old kid for asking for your autograph? Who’s REALLY evil “Sir” Charles?

Mark H   February 17th, 2008 - 1:25 am

Well now… at least Sir Charles isn’t “judging others”.

ROFL… what a twit.

killerbee   February 17th, 2008 - 1:26 am

MsPac,
You act as though no Liberal has ever had legal problems. Can you say Teddy Kennedy? Why don’t you google Detroit Mayor Kwami Kilpatrick. Now there’s a current, live Affirmative Action city controlled by 100% liberal Politicians. His Highness, the Mayor, nails Jamacian hookers in the barber shop, nails his top aide, had a stripper at his party murdered (allegedy, but when more text messages are released, well…), tried to destroy the lives and careers of two great Police Officers doing their jobs investigating him. He perjured himself in the officers civil suit and the near bankrupt city had to pay $9 million to settle the suit in which he made a “secret” deal to have more text messages witheld. He is quoted that he was appointed Mayor by God himself. ALL THIS IN ONLY THREE WEEKS. To list off all of his crimes would fill this blog space.

OldGuy   February 17th, 2008 - 1:27 am

Charles, stick to what you know, which obviously ISN’T the Bible. Your understanding of what it is to be Christian is so shallow, if was basketball, you’d think the purpose of the game is to run up and down the court and pass the ball around.

And yes, please run for Governor as a Democrat.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 1:27 am

I see someone posted using my postname. How is that possible? Funny that someone feels so threatened by the quotes of two past Presidents, documented abuse cases of the Repubs, & my calling them on their hateful personal attacks that they try to hijack my postname. Cowards. Just the kind of “fakes” that Barkley is referring to. Pseudos are so upset that they are in the minority. All they have left is their irrational, hateful ranting & raving. Lol.

ognywogny   February 17th, 2008 - 1:27 am

Amen. Someone calling the hypocritical, christian taliban to task. I was in a good southern baptist seminary in the 80’s when the ‘good chritians’ savaged each other over doctrinal purity. You pharisees say you want to debate him, I’ll be glad to take a piece of you.

Tom   February 17th, 2008 - 1:31 am

Barkley has created a straw-man: the selfish, mean, hypocritical conservative. DO such people exist? Yes. So do selfish, mean hypocritical liberals. What did Barkley prove with his comments?: that he is one of the latter.

I thought Obama was trying to bring Americans together regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative. I guess Charles didn’t get the memo. Or couldn’t read the memo. Or cannot pronounce memo.

deroy   February 17th, 2008 - 1:31 am

did chuck come out of the closet and admit he’s a ‘gay american’?

call his sponsors, TNT and T-Mobile.
tell them you are no longer buying their product.

because chuck is gay and promoting abortions except for his kid.

chuck did admit on the air that he rarely went to any classes at auburn.
he also alluded to the fact that boosters paid his salary while at auburn.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 1:32 am

“These Republican’s have demonstrated a weakness mankind has.”

A “weakness”??? LOL…..yep…crickets still chirping….& one nonsensical excuse given for their perverted behavior.

Typical PseudoCon response & typical attempt to morph the topic into being about “libs”…by using an oft-emailed radical rightie over-regurgitated, pre-formed, mis-informed, deliberately mis-interpreted bits of propaganda. That’s the best you’ve got? Of course, it IS deliberately cherry-picked & taken out of context from ALL the facts. And of course, the ACLU is OK…as long as it is defending the PseudoRepubs….right? ;0)

Can understand why all of you Pseudos’ feel the need to redirect the topic….Barkley was right! And you are frustrated because you KNOW your numbers are low. True Repbs/Cons/Christians see right through you & aren’t taking your crap anymore. You are no longer the lion…but a mouse…or probably more correct…a rat. Eisenhower was correct in his observations about you all.

1st Responder   February 17th, 2008 - 1:45 am

Hey, MsPunk, You’re still an idiot. SO WHHHHHAAAAATTTTTT!!!!!!

Tom   February 17th, 2008 - 1:49 am

Go ahead, Tex. Post your “list”. Remember that they have to be able to be factually backed up with arrest & convictions records.. Hearsay & allegations don’t count. AND, in order for it to be relevant to this thread, you have to prove that they pulled a ‘Pseudo’: that is, that they used a ‘Christian’ label for campaigning purposes to get elected, saying that they (the Dems) were the Christian party.

Otherwise, the point is moot & you’re only comparing apples to oranges. What is the issue here is the fact that the “fake” Christians-Cons widely promoted & publicized themselves as the “Christian Right”. That’s where their hypocrisy came into play. As Christians, they committed themselves to behaving as such & when they place judgment on others, that’s anti-Christian behavior.

Of course, we’re talking REAL Christian values… not that Fundamentalist crap that some have created as a more convenient form of ‘Christianity’ to make it easier for them to sin.

James   February 17th, 2008 - 1:52 am

Religion, the existence of God, morality, blah blah blah…these things can be debated endlessly.

Barkley’s may be a dumbass jock, but to his point: This administration has wrapped itself in the shroud of Christianity and has failed to live up to Christian beliefs. Here is a sampling:

1. Their economic and fiscal policies serve only to further enrich the wealthy elite of this country. Jesus never said anything about making tax cuts permanent.

2. Their social policies neglect the poor (in our own country) whom Jesus taught us to serve.

3. Their environmental policies weaken existing laws and allow greater pollution, harming the planet that we are told to be good stewards of.

4. They wage war for geo-political reasons causing thousands of Americans and untold civilians to die. Pretty sure Jesus would object to that.

They speak as if they are Christians to get our vote, then act like the robber-barons they are. Don’t be fooled any longer. Become an independent, vote for someone who refuses to speak of religion or God, and worship privately in your own way.

James   February 17th, 2008 - 1:52 am

you’d have to be an idiot to vote for that moron. and in alabama no less. good luck.

1st Responder   February 17th, 2008 - 1:52 am

Hey, MsPrick, you sure use a lot of big words, and yet you say very little.

Sam the Sham   February 17th, 2008 - 1:59 am

Pharisees.
Yes. That about sums it up. Pharisees. The same Conservative religious powerful leaders who murdered Jesus Christ(Christ didnt sacrifice his life to save our souls. He was murdered. He simply did not retaliate, and asked God to forgive us humans for his MURDER.) The Same conservative religious right winged leaders of Israel who manupulated the Romans by telling them that Jesus was inciting rebellion, and caused them to CRUCIFY him. These are the just like the people in power today, who use religion as a method of keeping their power, gaining more power, and controlling the people they have power over. Read your Bibles. Jesus didn’t sacrifice himself. The Conservatives of the time Murdered him.

TomF   February 17th, 2008 - 2:03 am

James: Christ did not make any tax recommendations at all, but he did oppose LEGALISM, which is what the Democrats live for. Government programs are, by their very nature, legalistic. “Let each give according to his own conscience, for the Lord loves a cheerful giver”.

Your assumptions about pollution destroying the planet are false (read “The Skeptical Environmentalist”, or the doomsday predictions of past environmental scares).

You assume that the Iraq War is only about oil, but ignore the massive human suffering that has been lifted as a result.

Christ was not a politician, and people on both sides need to stop trying to make Him into one.

1st Responder   February 17th, 2008 - 2:06 am

Wow!!! I had no idea George Bush, Dick Cheney, and (que the Darth Vader music},Karl Rove, were traipsing around Palestine at the time of Jesus. Hey, Sammy boy,{or is it Samantha? probably doesn’t matter…} Does that mean they have a time machine somewhere in the Whitehouse basement?
Of course, I understand the hamheaded point your desperately trying to make, but you end up just sounding stupid beyond belief. You leftist are such idiots.

Jay   February 17th, 2008 - 2:08 am

And Barkley’s IQ is probably around 75 or so. I put his opinions right up there with Kanye West and Sean Penn. Complete idiots.

Yeil   February 17th, 2008 - 2:10 am

David Robinson and Charles Barkley are friends. David is known as a Christian Leader
and Humanitarian. Sometimes you see them at Cool NBA Events :-)

Joe   February 17th, 2008 - 2:10 am

MsPac,

It is quite obvious that you are menopausal. Why don’t you get a life than keep scores about sexual perversions by Republicans?

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 2:14 am

“Liberals have no morals, so very rarely are they ever held accountable for anything.”

You mean like the following “liberals”??? Oh wait…they all wear the Republican party hat!

BTW…do you really think it’s OK for a President to lie by using forged documents & an out-dated plagiarized thesis as proof to attack another country? You PseudoCons are a joke when it comes to “accountability”. you haven’t a CLUE as to it’s definition (nor that of what constitutes a “lie”).

Keep regurgitating the unrighteous right’s PR propaganda BS….it only makes you look more foolish & confirm Barkley’s points as being ON-TARGET. ;0)

THE REPUBLICAN ADULTERY HALL OF SHAME:

Rep. Henry Hyde:Broke up a family during his seven year adulterous affair!

Mike Bowers: Cheated on his wife for FIFTEEN YEARS!

George Bush: Linda Tripp says had he an affair with a woman named “Jennifer”.

Newt Gingrich: Dumped his ex-wife while she was in a hospital bed suffering from cancer….

Bob Dole: Cheated on his first wife with his current wife, Elizabeth Dole.

Former Rep. Bob Dornan: Reported to have cheated on and beaten his wife.

John Linder: Has a wandering eye for his female staff members.

Ronald Reagan: Dumped Jane Wyman by cheating on her with several Hollywood starlets.

William Cohen: Dumped his white wife for a new black one.

Guy Millner: Has been married three times, partly because he has sex with women he isn’t married to….

Rush Limbaugh: Fat as he may be, he cheated on two of his three wives…

Mitch Skandalakis: Hired hookers from his Las Vegas hotel room!

Michael Deaver: Was so drunk he doesn’t remember hiring hookers…

John Warner: Dumped his wife for Elizabeth Taylor…

Bill Randall: A Florida Congressional candidate and minister, he fathered an illegitimate child during his affair!

Bill McCartney: PROMISE KEEPERS founder who didn’t keep his Promise to his wife and then lied about it for 20 years!

Rep. Dan Burton: Had at least six adulterous affairs, and fathered an ‘out-of-wedlock’ son who, today, he ignores!!

Rep. Bob Barr: Cheated on all three of his wives – and coerced one into having an abortion – then lied about it!

Rudolph Giuliani: Boffs his assistant in Gracie Mansion while his wife stays home with the kids!

Sen. Strom Thurmond: Cheated on his fourth wife at age 88!!

Gilbert Davis: Paula Jones’ attorney, who allowed himself to be videotaped DrUnK during his adultery!

Bob Packwood: Drank huge amounts of hard liquor and then tongue-kissed his female staffers against their will!

Gov. Kirk Fordice: Got so hopped up by his mistress that he crashed his Jeep Cherokee and got himself hurt!

Beverly Russell: The CHRISTIAN COALITION coordinator who molested his stepdaughter Susan Smith, who later killed her own kids!

Marv Albert: Calls himself a Republican, bites his longtime mistresses, and has sex with her while wearing women’s panties!

N.C. Rep. Sue Myrick: Who cheated on her husband and left him for another man!

LA. Rep. Bob Livingston: The GOP Speaker-to-never-be, who cheated on his wife Bonnie – with at least four women!

Michael Huffington: The Former GOP Congressman who cheated on his wife Arianna – with other men!

Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Mary Fallin: Who had an adulterous affair with her Security Guard – a state trooper!

Rep. Helen Chenoweth: Who screwed most every married male member of the Idaho Legislature!

The Charleston County, S.C. Solicitor, a Republican, who had an extramarital affair – a GAY affair with another man…..

Jim Bakker: Who eventually got locked up in chains and sent to federal prison.

Jimmy Swaggart: Who broke down crying after he got busted with an ugly hooker!

“Liberals have no morals, so very rarely are they ever held accountable for anything.”???

What’s your unrighteous-right excuse for the folks above??? Are you implying they are “libs”? ;0)

Sam the Sham   February 17th, 2008 - 2:18 am

1st Responder: hey smart boy, I’m an independent from a conservative middle class, blue collar family, that voted for Bush1 as stated earlier. Not a leftist.(oh no, you called me a girl. what’s next? gonna call me a homo?) And if you know what conservative politics means you’ll know that the concept has been around a lot longer than W. Bush, Cheney, Rove and co. And you’d also know that those 3 aren’t good representatives of social and political conservatives or the American Conservative movement. And if you truly got the point, i suspect you’d probably have made a funnier joke. Do you know what a Pharisee is?

OMG U Failz. :( I’ve seen you on other boards. good to know that your persona as a boorish dolt is consistent. Consistency is important.

Rob   February 17th, 2008 - 2:20 am

Barkeley is another good example for not electing people because they know how to play with balls. I don’t know who should be most insulted here; conservatives or athletes…… the jury is out.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 2:22 am

“The media loves Democrat presidents because they can fluff up their front pages with all of their scandal and improbable behavior”

You mean like Nigergate, Abramoffgate, Coingate, Plamegate, Libbygate….using forged documents & an out-dated plagiarized thesis as a basis to attack another country.

Oh wait…you said “Democrat”. Didn’t you know? Bu$hCheneyRove&Co are REPUBLICAN.

And speaking of “scandal”….why do you support all those REPUBLICAN sex abusers who got caught & CONVICTED? And how about Newt Gingrich: he dumped his ex-wife while she was in a hospital bed suffering from cancer!

Bob Dole: he cheated on his first wife with his current wife, Elizabeth Dole!

And Ronald Reagan: he dumped Jane Wyman by cheating on her with several Hollywood starlets!

I bet you’re just fuming with righteous indignation about Rudolph Giuliani: he boffed his assistant in Gracie Mansion while his wife stayed home with the kids!

Amazing that you have NO problem with the likes of Republican activist and CHRISTIAN COALITION and South Carolina Republican leader Beverly Russell who admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter!!

Hurray..let’s hear it for those good ‘ole “Republican Family Values”. You guys are such hypocrites…even when faced with the proof…you can’t be honest with yourselves. Barkley was right & that has you so pissed off. Lol! God Bless America! You self-righteous fools are losing control & you don’t know what to do about it!

Tom   February 17th, 2008 - 2:22 am

‘Liberalism is a mental disorder’ – Michael Savage

Jesus NEVER said dont judge others. When Jesus said ‘Judge not lest you be judged’, He meant that as we judge, we are judged as well, so judge fairly. Liberals simply love to use that verse out of context. Jesus would NEVER have condoned abortion for convenience, Nor would Jesus have condoned homosexual practices and homosexual marriage. Liberals also dont uderstand that there is a huge difference between murder and killing. YHWH commands us not to murder, there is such a thing as justified killing and not all killing is punishable by law, ask any lawyer!! I am all for the death penalty for murderers, rapists and pedophiles.

Robert   February 17th, 2008 - 2:23 am

Libs are the fakes. Thats why the Dems try all the Christian outreach. They reach out to people who arent like them. Barkley is an idiot.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 2:29 am

LOVE IT! When PseudoCons lack intellectual material to counter-debate a valid point…they resort to name calling & personal attack….true to their perverted, self-serving morphed revision of expected “Christian” behaviors. Yep. Barkley was talking about YOU!

LOL..you guys are a hoot…been fun playing with you but as your numbers are small…I have better things to do. Continue to live in your fear & unrighteous righteousness….you make for good little wanna-be fascists but your ‘roar’ is now a pathetic little ‘peep’. Your own words & irrational regurgitations only serve to condemn yourselves as the fools that you are. Eisenhower was correct about you: “Their number is negligible and they are stupid..”. BTW…he WAS an authentic REPUBLICAN. YOU are not.

JP   February 17th, 2008 - 2:29 am

Not only are SOME OF THEM fake Christians, they’re FAKE CONSERVATIVES…

Randy   February 17th, 2008 - 2:29 am

OK, let me get this straight. We have conservative christians, liberal christians, independent christians, but only the conservative christians are fake? Do you have a percentage to accomodate this claim Charles? You can put me on a new list. The fake Chuck fan list, because I’m not a fan anymore. And when you come out with your apology claiming that you really didn’t mean it, all of us fake people will know better.

Tex Taylor   February 17th, 2008 - 2:31 am

Barkley is voting for Obama because he is black. Everything else is secondary for Charles because he is too stupid to understand anything else besides how to put a ball in a hoop.

MsPac is Code pink lite. America blaming, man hating, military loathing, government dependent. Nothing else needs to be said. Put her on ignore.

gunnar   February 17th, 2008 - 2:46 am

Wow, Mr. Barkley… strong words. good time for a dialogue about the perception of Christians. check out the movie, Lord Save Us from Your Followers. They are on youtube, lordsaveus.net, or http://www.myspace.com/danmerchant it’s one thing to opine… it’s another to dialogue. Check it out.

Django Reinhardt   February 17th, 2008 - 2:50 am

Unfortunately Charles Barkley represents the uneducated populace here in the USA which is growing by leaps and bounds daily through the secular media outlets that spew garbage and filth and moral relativism.

JMW   February 17th, 2008 - 2:53 am

Just as I said–“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”– Mark Twain (1835-1910)

For the morons who quote the old testament when defining Christianity–that was Jesus’ beef, fools. The New Covenant replaced “eye for an eye” with “turn the other cheek.” The assertion that Christians have done anything less than provide the means to throw off the shackles of earth-bound tyranny is ludicrous. Our rights–and those of all men–flow from God–not from governments. Those of you who are willing to let men decide your fates are the real idiots–and the faith of a true Christian will always trump the faith of a bureaucrat (see Soviet Union).

As for conservative values being in lockstep with Christianity–again, you’re fools. There is nothing Christian about making war–but there is plenty of “conservative” involved in using war to free people. There is nothing Christian in killing terrorists–but there is plenty of conservative in doing so. So I am a Christian who happens to be conservative. I’ll promise you–there are LOTS of Christians who are liberal (it’s inevitable since 97% of the country believes in God or a higher power). But your myopic bigotry and paranoic hatred of that which you don’t understand prevents you from seeing the reality of your predicament.

So be it. Continue in what I know to be your foolishness and I’ll continue in what you believe to be mine. Then, on our respective death beds, let’s see who dies happy.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 2:55 am

“MsPac is Code pink lite. America blaming, man hating, military loathing, government dependent. Nothing else needs to be said. Put her on ignore.”

LOL! Isn’t radical-right delusion great? I didn’t say it…so this fool implies it. Typical…typical…straight out of the Limbicile Book of Nonsensical Regurgitations of the Unrighteous Right Dittoheads. LOL.

LOVE it! You think it’s OK for PseudoRepubs to commit atrocious acts of terrorism on young children & to break the Ten Commandments. Unbelievable! Yep. Barkley was correct about you. Why do you hate America, Tex Taylor?

Dennis Whitley   February 17th, 2008 - 2:56 am

WOW!! What an idiot. I thought this guy had a little sense but I was WRONG. If you are bringing the Bible into this , Charlie, read the part about murder and homosexuality. For the judging part–what’s with you running your mouth about hypocrites. You should run for office though cause there is always a place for another buffoon in the world of politics and you definitely fit the mold of big mouth and little brain.

Michael Madden   February 17th, 2008 - 3:00 am

Seems to me Charles is doing the very thing he calls others hypocrites for – judging others. After all, are all conservatives Christians? Painting with a broad brush by calling all conservative christians fake is judging their personal relationship with their God.

And, oh, Charles…we ARE called to judge the ACTIONS of others. We AREN’T called to judge their soul, however.

Sounds like someone needs to bone up on their scripture before proclaiming himself an expert in Christian apologetics.

Tex Taylor   February 17th, 2008 - 3:03 am

MsPac,

Do the world a favor and don’t make the same mistake your parents made…it’s called birth control.

My favorite Christian portrait:

http://crime.about.com/library/blbarkleyc.htm

Larry Stevens   February 17th, 2008 - 3:04 am

I thought I liked Mr. Barkley. In his tirade about Christians judging he sure did a lot of judging on his own. If we are (Christians)ever that judgmental and made the inflammatory remarks he made we’d be fodder for all the news. First, Christians are never told not to judge. We certainly can’t judge the genuineness of another’s faith, but the Bible which I read and believe actually commands us to judge. If I am against something it is because I believe what God had to say on the subject. It just seems that judging and belittling is okay for Mr. Barkley and those of his mindset, but let a Christian, or one that says they are conservative make a comment that is considered the least bit judgmental then Katie bar the door. It is pure ignorance on Mr. Barkley’s part when it comes to the Christian faith or conservatives. I live in Alabama and if this arrogant, pompous, know it all runs for Governor here I will be a tireless worker for his opponent.

BgJff   February 17th, 2008 - 3:06 am

As a conservative, a Christian, and an independent Constituational libertarian formerly from Alabama until four years ago (now in Tennessee), I can tell you that whatever chance Barkley had of winning in Alabama were shot down by his own words. His statement “I’m FOR gay marriage…” stopped 50% of the Deomcratic voters in Alabama dead in their tracks. Alabama has voted conservative in the gubernatorial race for the last two election cycles. He will not win unless the farcical organization that is the Alabama Education Association continues to dumb the Alabama children down to the point where they consider drivel like his to be intelligent discourse.

Ken   February 17th, 2008 - 3:13 am

Maybe by 2014 ol’fat Chuck can learn the English language. Did you hear this moron? Remember, this slob is a college grad and a NBA analyst.

Same racist who “hates white people.” And now rips conservatives. Let’s see whites and conservatives. yep, this should play real well in ‘Bama.

David   February 17th, 2008 - 3:20 am

Are you a Christian at all to be deciding who’s a ‘real’ Christian and a ‘fake Christian? What makes you the expert? Talking about selective Bible reading, have you, Barkley read any of the Bible to know the difference between right and wrong? Isn’t God the one who determines that?

So, follow the logic here: God is judge. He inspired his Word (the Bible). The Bible says homosexuality is a sin. Therefore, God says homosexuality is a sin. Christians are to be like God. Therefore, Christians are to call people out on their sin to shed light on their darkness and deliver to them the good news of Jesus’ deliverance to those who believe.

“For even their females exchanged natural sexual intercourse for what is unnatural. The males in the same way also left natural sexual intercourse with females and were inflamed in heir lust for one another. Males commited shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the appropriate penalty for their perversion.” Romans 1:26,27

Now, for Barkley, here’s the verse that applies directly to him:

“Although they know full well God’s just sentence—that those who practice such things deserve to die—they not only do them, but even applaud others who practice them.” —Romans 1:31

Now, I’ll note that that verse was mentioning the above sin, as well as countless other sins such as murder, envy, gossip, arrogance, God-hatred, etc…. but, the point is that the sin of homosexuality is bundled in with the list as deserving death.

Now, to clarify, the Bible doesn’t command Christians to be the executioner here. This death that is so deserved is not nor should not be exacted by Christians. This verse is just pointing out right vs. wrong and what wrong truly deserves.

Whenever you see or hear any Christian advocating gay marriage, abortion, and things of that ilk, you can easily determine their invalidity as a Christians. They are denying that God ever condemned those sins.

You will know them by their fruits.

Whenever Christians are trying to speak out against sin, they are trying to warn the world of the eternal judgement that is deserved by true believers as well as unbelievers if it weren’t for one single thing: Jesus’ death on the cross.

“For while we were still helpless, at the appointed moment, Christ died for the ungodly [that's you, and that's me]. But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us! Much more then, since we have now been declared righteous by His blood, we will be saved through Him from wrath. [this would be that death that was deserved] For if, while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, then how much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by His life! —Romans 5:6-11 (parentheticals mine)

Beware of false Christians who deny the Bible truth. Those ‘liberal’ Christians. Those that deny that God has any strong position on sin. They would like you to believe that God is soft on what is wrong. But, He isn’t.

Mike   February 17th, 2008 - 3:25 am

Charles does’nt seem to have a clue. There is a huge difference between judging a person and their motivations and judging their actions. We must judge their actions but not the person and their motivations, otherwise murder, rape and everything else becomes permissable.

Jonathan   February 17th, 2008 - 3:26 am

Ah, finally a bright spot for the Republicans! At least we know that conservatives will have one win in 2014. Thanks Charles! You might ask John McCain if he needs a running mate.

Greg-USA   February 17th, 2008 - 3:30 am

Any Democrat who speaks like this will get a huge donation from me. The more these elitists are exposed the better off we will be. We need to get more people like this running for office so people will, hopefully, start to think again and realize what the Democrat party is all about. Then, as usual, we Conservatives will come in and clean up the mess from inactive Democrats who just doll out more tax payer dollars to social programs. Charles, you should have actually studied in college instead of allowing your teachers to just pass you. This interview would be a great commercial for reasons to stay in school.

jack wayd   February 17th, 2008 - 3:33 am

I wonder if Sir Charles supports bestiality or is he a bigot like all Democrats–pro-gay, but anti-bestiality.

Down with BIGOTS!

Ron Paul   February 17th, 2008 - 3:34 am

Charles is a REPUBLICAN not a liberal democrat. Does it confuse all you fake republicans when you see someone who is actually conservative?

Jay   February 17th, 2008 - 3:34 am

Charles is too old to play basketball and too stupid to hold a public office. I can’t wait to see him in a debate! haha

kevin   February 17th, 2008 - 3:37 am

First of all the bible does not say not to judge it says not to judge unless you are prepared to be judged by the same merit. judge not lest ye be judged… Second, the reason Christians have opinions about gay marriage and abortion is because they believe they are morally and fundamentally opposed to the teachings found in the bible. The beauty of this all is that we live in a country that allows those opinions. we should treasure them. Lastly i don’t think Mr Barkley is going to get very far in Alabama running for Gov. Not with his platform.

Beep   February 17th, 2008 - 3:39 am

And Charles is going to feel that way until he makes a friend of a “conservative.” Until he can put aside differences and try to understand a friend’s point of view that he may not happen to agree with, he will be in this stomach upsetting condition. I, personally, want to understand why my friends feel and think about politics the way they do, without denigrating them, and I hope they view my conservativeness the same way. That’s what makes this a great country, the freedom to dissent without fear of beheadings, sharia law, etc…. I would recommend to all of you who haven’t to MAKE a friend of opposite political views and try to understand whether it’s pure hate that motivates them, or whether they have a well-thought out reason for their beliefs.

hillary smegma   February 17th, 2008 - 3:40 am

excuse me,but i have to go take a barkley…pass the toilet paper………

Keith   February 17th, 2008 - 3:43 am

Talk about being as lost as a ball in tall grass. Wow.

Christians are taught to not judge people’s motives, correct. We all judge people’s actions, even Sir Charles, as he just did. (Is he a hypocrit too?)

It’s not Christians that say killing babies is wrong, or that gay marriage is wrong. God says those things are wrong. Christians are merely the ‘killed messengers’.

Sorry to wreck everybody’s fun, but go pick on The Man instead, assuming you believe He’s out there.

American Patriot   February 17th, 2008 - 3:50 am

Well Alabama democrats I think have the right IQ to vote for him.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 3:53 am

jack wayd/: “I wonder if Sir Charles supports bestiality or is he a bigot like all Democrats–pro-gay, but anti-bestiality.”

WHAT are you smoking? Do you understand how absurd you sound?

BTW, why do YOU support PseudoCon/PseudoChristian CONVICTED child molesters/rapists? Are YOU a child abuser?

“Down with BIGOTS!”

Don’t be so hard on yourself. You still can learn ‘tolerance’.

R.J.   February 17th, 2008 - 3:55 am

Barkley makes me want to vomit on his bald head. Voting Democrat?? What a surprise!! NOT!!! I’m sure he’s either Aethist or Muslim.

TakeTheGOPBack   February 17th, 2008 - 3:57 am

Thank you Charles for speaking like a true Republican. We are the party of less government yet the social “conservatives” have infiltrated our party and turned us into what we should never become – a nanny state. By shoving religion down everyone’s throat and insisting on having government make decisions for the people on issues like abortion and gay marriage the relgious right has caused our party to abandon the core of its principles and have made the party irrelevant in California, New York, Illinois and most places where true Republican ideals used to play quite well.

MARK   February 17th, 2008 - 3:59 am

I SPOTTED SIR CVHARLES IN SUNDAY SCHOOL WITH OJ LAST SUNDAY.

vibert   February 17th, 2008 - 4:00 am

Nothing better than listening to christians preach about the sin of killing fetuses and what other people do in their bedroom, while simultaneously supporting a militaristic, dualistic, nasty worldview that puts them on the right side of things, no matter what. Why are they on god’s side? Because their parents brought them up to believe so. And in this gamble they’ll end the whole world in the belief, the wanting to believe, that there is a monarch god who’ll pat them on the back in heaven.

burning the symbol of the country is wrong but we destroy the land that it represents. on top of that, they destroy the freedoms (except those which do with money, how christian) that make this country worth living in, and how do they do this? by advocating nonstop war and aggression that kills thousands as well. stop pretending god whispers in your ear about the true nature of right and wrong. nobody can say for certain when a baby is born. it’s not even fully conscious until past 18 months, is it a child then, or is it a child when it comes out the mother, or when it’s conceived, or when it’s a sperm inside the father? nobody knows. causality is bunk. everything flows into everything else, and all attempts to separate are just simple abstracts. and a god who created the universe sure doesn’t need self-righteous ideologues casting out his judgement on his behalf.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 4:06 am

“Barkley makes me want to vomit on his bald head.”

How “Christian” of you.

“I’m sure he’s either Aethist or Muslim.”

Into making ASSumptions are you? ;0)

And even if he was….so what? The great U.S.of A. is made up of good folks of ALL persuasions…ALL beliefs or not….it’s THEIR right…it’s THEIR choice.

R.J., why do YOU support PseudoRepub child molesters/rapists? Please explain because none of the other PseudoCon cowards here seem to have the guts to do so.

Dico   February 17th, 2008 - 4:09 am

Wow, a man who needs to bury his head in the Bible and learn the true saying of Jesus says that conservatives are fake.. I guess Jesus was fake also… I guess going back to Baal worship is his version of Christianity… but this time instead of a stone we use the most sacred of places a Mothers womb. Oh, yeah Jesus the “fake” says how men will become lovers of men in the last days.. well Barkley is right along party lines, he is working for the great evil one.
Oh yeah, I forgot wasn’t it the Dems who were the sale owners.. and voted against the Civil Rights movement…and use the ghetto as the new plantation. Well Barkley if you stop putting down Christians and start to read you may learn something that will open you blind eyes!

Leopold Lacrimosa   February 17th, 2008 - 4:14 am

All this coming from a man who’s only intelligent phrase in the past was:
“It’s a good ball club, I like playing ball, I want to play ball for the club.”

Robert   February 17th, 2008 - 4:16 am

Poor Charles. You have to wonder if he is even capable of understanding the glaring contradictions of his own statement or could even consider the fact that judging is the single most important duty a human being has. Judge what is right, what it wrong and what must be done to ensure that what is right triumphs. Charles falls victim to the intellectual laziness that is the calling card of todays Left.

Eddie Estes   February 17th, 2008 - 4:27 am

“THE REPUBLICAN ADULTERY HALL OF SHAME:

Rep. Henry Hyde:Broke up a family during his seven year adulterous affair!

Mike Bowers: Cheated on his wife for FIFTEEN YEARS!

George Bush: Linda Tripp says had he an affair with a woman named “Jennifer”.

Newt Gingrich: Dumped his ex-wife while she was in a hospital bed suffering from cancer….

Bob Dole: Cheated on his first wife with his current wife, Elizabeth Dole.

Former Rep. Bob Dornan: Reported to have cheated on and beaten his wife.

John Linder: Has a wandering eye for his female staff members.

Ronald Reagan: Dumped Jane Wyman by cheating on her with several Hollywood starlets.

William Cohen: Dumped his white wife for a new black one.

Guy Millner: Has been married three times, partly because he has sex with women he isn’t married to….

Rush Limbaugh: Fat as he may be, he cheated on two of his three wives…

Mitch Skandalakis: Hired hookers from his Las Vegas hotel room!

Michael Deaver: Was so drunk he doesn’t remember hiring hookers…

John Warner: Dumped his wife for Elizabeth Taylor…

Bill Randall: A Florida Congressional candidate and minister, he fathered an illegitimate child during his affair!

Bill McCartney: PROMISE KEEPERS founder who didn’t keep his Promise to his wife and then lied about it for 20 years!

Rep. Dan Burton: Had at least six adulterous affairs, and fathered an ‘out-of-wedlock’ son who, today, he ignores!!

Rep. Bob Barr: Cheated on all three of his wives – and coerced one into having an abortion – then lied about it!

Rudolph Giuliani: Boffs his assistant in Gracie Mansion while his wife stays home with the kids!

Sen. Strom Thurmond: Cheated on his fourth wife at age 88!!

Gilbert Davis: Paula Jones’ attorney, who allowed himself to be videotaped DrUnK during his adultery!

Bob Packwood: Drank huge amounts of hard liquor and then tongue-kissed his female staffers against their will!

Gov. Kirk Fordice: Got so hopped up by his mistress that he crashed his Jeep Cherokee and got himself hurt!

Beverly Russell: The CHRISTIAN COALITION coordinator who molested his stepdaughter Susan Smith, who later killed her own kids!

Marv Albert: Calls himself a Republican, bites his longtime mistresses, and has sex with her while wearing women’s panties!

N.C. Rep. Sue Myrick: Who cheated on her husband and left him for another man!

LA. Rep. Bob Livingston: The GOP Speaker-to-never-be, who cheated on his wife Bonnie – with at least four women!

Michael Huffington: The Former GOP Congressman who cheated on his wife Arianna – with other men!

Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Mary Fallin: Who had an adulterous affair with her Security Guard – a state trooper!

Rep. Helen Chenoweth: Who screwed most every married male member of the Idaho Legislature!

The Charleston County, S.C. Solicitor, a Republican, who had an extramarital affair – a GAY affair with another man…..

Jim Bakker: Who eventually got locked up in chains and sent to federal prison.

Jimmy Swaggart: Who broke down crying after he got busted with an ugly hooker!

“Liberals have no morals, so very rarely are they ever held accountable for anything.”???

What’s your unrighteous-right excuse for the folks above??? Are you implying they are “libs”? ;0)”

If everyone you listed said they believed that the Bible was right and messed up it does not change the fact that the Bible is right.
You try to say that a correct message is invalid if the messenger screws up in life.
A correct message is correct even if the messenger screws up!!!!

Tex Taylor   February 17th, 2008 - 4:32 am

MsPac the man hater,

When you going to give out the secret decoder ring so we can decipher your posts? What is that? Yiddish?

Looks like you and Charlie have one thing in common besides your faux piety: ebonics.

Bobdohr   February 17th, 2008 - 4:34 am

Hey Michael! Let’s make a deal? I won’t tell YOU how to play basketball, AND YOU DON’T TELL ME HOW TO THINK OR VOTE!

Seems fair to me! Bob D.

GreenShepherd   February 17th, 2008 - 4:56 am

I don’t understand how people say Christians are not to judge. The context of that statement in the bible is not to judge as in “you’re going to hell” or “you’re going to heaven”. Christian are not to be the FINAL judge less Christians be Judged. Christians ARE however allowed having an opinion and judge based on the bible and the teachings of Jesus. If others are in sin then we assist and love them and pray that God shows them the error of their ways. HOWEVER we still love them! Christians are not to hate or have hostility to sinners, just the SIN… because we all are sinners and God looks upon ALL sin the same way. We are to love as we want to be loved.
I feel sorry for Charles… He is making some very harsh assumptions about a very large group of people, and the biggest problem is he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. …He will make a fine politician.

Jane   February 17th, 2008 - 4:58 am

What a joke. Don’t think Charles would be PRO choice if he ONLY knew Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood wanted to promote abortion as a choice to the BLACK community to wipe out the black community and they have fallen for her garbage HOOK, LINE and sinker!
Charles must also support a women’s choice because it let’s men (like himself) off the hook.
Fill that new house with babies Charles and let’s see if you don’t have a different tune after you grow up.
It isn’t Christians that will do the judging… you, Charles, will stand before the same, one and only Holy God I will and if Jesus isn’t your Savior, it won’t matter WHAT you think about anything else.
Play ball. Leave the politics to someone else.

Jane   February 17th, 2008 - 5:09 am

The Negro Project
(Check out the http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0308.htm website if you don’t believe what you’re reading)

The Negro Project was designed by Dr. Clarence Gamble and Margaret Sanger to use contraception to cut down on the number of black babies being born. In a December 10, 1939 letter, Margaret Sanger wrote to Gamble about the Negro Project, saying:

“We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”7

Sanger, scientific racism, Nazism

The Margaret Sanger Papers Project of the Department of History at New York University was formed by Dr. Esther Katz in 1985 to locate, arrange, edit, research, and publish Sanger’s papers. Generally pro-Sanger, it certainly cannot be dismissed as being some pro-life endeavor. Here’s an excerpt from an article entitled, “The Sanger-Hitler Equation” that appeared in the Winter 2002/3 Margaret Sanger Papers Project Newsletter:

“Sanger did write to and share organizational memberships and conference programs with any number of eugenicists, including such champions of scientific racism as Charles Davenport and Harry Laughlin, who ran the genetics laboratory in Cold Spring Harbor, New York; and Leon Whitney, secretary of the American Eugenics Society. All of them conflated physical and mental deficiencies with racial ones. While Sanger publicly criticized these most notable eugenicists for their opposition or indifference to birth control, she never publicly condemned their racial views. Her silence is damning in retrospect, but it does not make her a Nazi.”

Charles Barkley   February 17th, 2008 - 5:09 am

I’m just a stupid hood rat that got a free ride through school for playing ghettoball. Why would you morons think I had anything intelligent to say, I’m just another moron from the hood who got some money and now I think that makes me smart.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 5:18 am

“Oh yeah, I forgot wasn’t it the Dems who were the sale owners.. and voted against the Civil Rights movement”

Hmmm…got that patially-correct bit from a radical-right mass emailing, right? ;0) History…specifically, the evolution of the Republican party….is NOT one of your strong points is it?

Why not give the COMPLETE background behind that deliberate tidbit that is meant to be misleading by omitting ALL the pertinent facts?

You refer to the “Southern CONSERVATIVE Democrats”, who were “Democrats” because Lincoln was a Republican. Hatred runs a long time in the South. Resentment stemming from the Civil War and the Republican Party’s policy of Reconstruction kept Southern whites in the Democratic Party.

Truth is…it was the “Southern CONSERVATIVE Democrats” & some Repubs who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In fact, the MAJORITY of BOTH parties voted FOR the ACT! That’s factually documented afterall. Indeed, When the Voting Rights Act came up for renewal the last time (2005, I think.), Trent Lott, and other Southern Republicans, voted against its renewal.

Now…for the important details left out of your very brief, incomplete, misleading synopsis: As the New Deal began to liberalize Democrats as a whole, “Southern Democrats” largely stayed as ‘CONSERVATIVE’ as they had always been, with some even breaking off to form farther right-wing splinters like the Dixiecrats. What you effectively omitted: after the civil rights movement successfully passed, most “Southern Conservative Democrats” defected to the Republican Party.

It didn’t matter whether they called themselves “Republicans” or “Democrats”…..they were “Southern CONSERVATIVES” firstly.

And even today….these “Southern Conservatives” are in both parties. With the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, it was the final straw for many “Southern Democrats”, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates. The Republicans carried many Southern states for the first time since before the Great Depression.

When Nixon courted voters with his “Southern Strategy”, many Democrats became Repubs & the GOP claimed the South. The GOP became more “conservative” as the Democrats were becoming more “liberal”.

After Brown and the civil rights evolution of the 1960s, and the application of Goldwater’s 1964 and Nixon’s 1968 “Southern strategy,” Southern white males especially began to leave the national Democratic Party in significant numbers. Repubs began to appeal to them with a series of racial themes and code words: “conservatism” during the civil rights struggles in 1964, “law and order” after the riots of 1967-68, “antibusing” in 1972, “welfare queen” in 1980, “Willie Horton” in 1988 and “compassionate conservatism” in 2000.

Slogans…PR campaigns….photo-ops….still successfully used by the Repubs today.

Larry   February 17th, 2008 - 5:22 am

This makes me laugh. He is judging Conservative Christians while accusing “them” of judging others. What a hypocrite. Yes Charles, please waist your time to come to Alabama and not even win your party’s nomination you dufuss. You would be beaten easily in an election. Hahahahahahahahahahah

420boy   February 17th, 2008 - 5:31 am

The problem about talking about religion is that you run the risk of offending sincerely religious people, and then they come after you with machetes, hypocrite is a perfect word Mr. Barkley! You know our conservative (religious right) wing is to America as the hard core Islamics are to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran, think about it…

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 5:36 am

“If everyone you listed said they believed that the Bible was right and messed up it does not change the fact that the Bible is right.”

Pay attention: this thread is about Barkley’s opinion about PSEUDO-Christians….NOT the Bible. No place in his video clip does he talk about the “Bible”. That is YOUR projection.

Do you not agree that there are folks who USE the “Christian” label merely as a PR campaign to get votes? That’s whom Barkley is taking issue with. Do you not agree that there are “Conservatives” whose actions/words are NOT reflective of TRUE Conservatism? It would be naive to deny such when it IS well-documented.

Religion…God…Jesus Christ..does NOT belong to any one political party as the Unrighteous Right is on record to having claimed exclusive ownership of. WE the people are made up of a diverse collection of beliefs. Again…WE the People. Our government should be a reflection of ALL of us & our diverse make-up of beliefs/non-beliefs.

Adam Arfaras   February 17th, 2008 - 5:50 am

“Reverend” Charles, Al and Jesse, all ignorant of scripture. Biblically speaking, God has judged the world already! That’s why we are not to judge. The wrath of God on this world is a done deal! Charles has embraced a biblically stated abomination as a political platform because he hates American conservatives. Just another stupid sports idol.. Case and point, if you see a naked sexual predator in a baby pool full of infants, do you make a judgement? IDOT!

Tex Taylor   February 17th, 2008 - 5:55 am

Religion…God…Jesus Christ..does NOT belong to any one political party as the Unrighteous Right is on record to having claimed exclusive ownership of. WE the people are made up of a diverse collection of beliefs. Again…WE the People. Our government should be a reflection of ALL of us & our diverse make-up of beliefs/non-beliefs. **

** Except everyone of you phony Christians who call yourself Conservative ~ MsPac

April Sky   February 17th, 2008 - 5:57 am

LOL What a JOKE ! He sits there saying conservatives are fake because we should not Judge others , while he is doing the same damn thing , typical liberal to me , no loss to our party!!!
MsPac this is just one out of many many many…
Fugitive swindler and Democrat fundraiser Norman Hsu has reportedly skipped bail, according to Fox News. The prominent contributor to Hillary Clinton and other Democrats did not turn in his passport at last week’s hearing, raising the possibility that he has fled to China, mirroring the actions of dozens of Clinton contributors in the scandalous fund-raising schemes of the ‘96 election, known as “Chinagate.” The democRATS have so much dirt , but guess that doesn’t matter to you , it doesn’t matter that they have sold their souls to china and other countries who’s only goal is to get the American people no matter what or who we are they want us all dead , get it !

DJ in PA   February 17th, 2008 - 5:59 am

I know it’s illegal to have any negative reaction to anything a black man says, thinks or does, but Charles can eat me.

+SteveB   February 17th, 2008 - 6:02 am

Describing what a moron Barkley is, would be like describing how wet water is. It’s refreshing to see his honesty in front of cameras, putting his idiocy on display. Any network that would hire this guy to broadcast a basketball game, would have to be shameless. Hopefully this is the last time we have to hear Barkley’s grade-school, demented ramblings…..not to mention hateful.

Exlib   February 17th, 2008 - 6:03 am

O, Sir Charles, you are a knucklehead, just a silly, dumb, old knucklehead. What you said is just turrible, turrible I say. You know what else is turrible..Kim Jong Il, he’s a turrible knucklehead, a crazy, turrible, knucklehead.

Count   February 17th, 2008 - 6:04 am

Interesting, I guess sir charles should read the part of the Bible that says thou shall not kill. I used to like him too. That is rather unfortunate. I love someone who calls on others to not judge while they judge them and call them hypocrites. Classic!

Eric   February 17th, 2008 - 6:13 am

Where does the Bible say that Christians are not supposed to judge other people?

I haven’t found that one, yet.

D.T.   February 17th, 2008 - 6:16 am

Well Sir Charles was quick to pointed out conservatives = fake Christians and bellowing about “judge not”. I wonder if he thought about what he was saying, the term “pot and the kettle” ring a bell? “I’ll vote Demorcrat no matter what” doesn’t give thought about how he casts his vote, lot of deep soul searching there eh Chuck? His railing against a group of people he obviously knows nothing about will makes me think his ego gives him false confidence. The more he roars the more he believes his own ranting, he’s emotional, he says it alot, so it must be true right Charles? I hope he does run for Gov. of Alabama, I hope he sinks his last penny and everybody else who believes his bellowing in a campain that falls flat on its face. Try getting money back on a failed campain there Charles, like getting money back for a wedding cake for a wedding that didn’t take place.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 6:23 am

Tex: “** Except everyone of you phony Christians who call yourself Conservative”

Not my statement…yours. But then you know that. ;0)

You just choose to forget that WE the PEOPLE includes Barkley & others who are sick & tired of PSEUDOChristians/PSEUDOConservatives using the label of “Christian” or “Conservative” to sell their politics. They are neither….their actions/words are neither.

Again:

Do you deny that there are folks who USE the “Christian” label merely as a PR campaign to get votes? That’s whom Barkley is taking issue with. Do you not agree that there are “Conservatives” whose actions/words are NOT reflective of TRUE Conservatism? It would be naive to deny such when it IS well-documented afterall.
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“That is rather unfortunate. I love someone who calls on others to not judge while they judge them and call them hypocrites.”

The hypocrisy is that it is the REPUBLICANS (NOT the Dems/libs) who have publicly claimed exclusive ownership of being “Christian”. If they contract that as their standard, then they shouldn’t cry when others hold them up to it for accountability. Many of the posters here reflect that pattern.

Barkley called the Pseudos on their hypocrisy. He was correct. Could he have worded it differently so as to be more specific as to who he’s talking about? Yes. But no where in his video clip do I hear him claiming exclusive rights to being a “Christian”…ergo…he’s not being hypocritical.

Kyle   February 17th, 2008 - 6:24 am

Good ole Charles! Like normal he runs his mouth without knowing what he is talking about… He will get the black vote because he is Charles Barkley but how in the world is he going to get any Republican votes when he says things like this… He needs to think before he talks… But what do you expect he’s been doing this for years… I’m sure, that being a basketball player and all, that he is very qualified to be governor….lol

Bustyn   February 17th, 2008 - 6:30 am

Better to keep quiet, and be thought a moron, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. This clown is an idiot. Hypocritical Christians passing judgment? Just what is Charles doing here if not passing judgment? Save your money Charlie, you don’t have a prayer of getting elected to any position higher than dog catcher. Not to insult dog catchers, but you get the point.

Bobby   February 17th, 2008 - 6:31 am

Thank you Charles Barkley for telling it like it is! Christian “Conservatives” are no better than the mullahs of Iran and Al Qaida. What’s the difference? They all HATE, HATE, HATE and HATE. These are the same people who justified slavery when it was cool to own slaves! What’s the difference? They want to control women just as the degenerates of Islam who stoone women to death for adultery. They’re so full of their hatred, intolerance and ignorance, they think they own patriotism and the USA. Well, they don’t!

mike   February 17th, 2008 - 6:32 am

Wow, I used to like Charles now I thinks he is a religious Bigot.

freaksloan   February 17th, 2008 - 6:32 am

Charles – Just another ignorant racist!

I am a Conservative and I am agnostic. I’m I still a fake Christian, Sir Chuck?

I guess since you are a black male, that means you are in prison, a drug addict and have 10 kids with 7 different women.

fezziwig   February 17th, 2008 - 6:35 am

the tragedy is that a stupid man like Barkley is given a voice on TV in the first place. He’s a black racist, a bigot of white people. He’s disagreeable for the sake of shock value. He’s a corporate shill, fat and disgusting on the world WHITE MEN gave him. What a turd.

charly   February 17th, 2008 - 6:38 am

so the guy with a name similar to barking, is now judging christians i see? doesnt he know that not all conservatives are christian? oh but i forgot, HE DOESNT JUDGE PEOPLE.

and didnt Jesus say “go sin no more” to Mary Magdalene after he forgave her?

glad this future democratic politician isnt a judgmental person like all conservative chrsitians…he’ll make a perfect democratic politician.

hmmmm…i think i smell a rat…

Daniel   February 17th, 2008 - 6:44 am

As far as many republicans and democrats being “fake” Christians? I agree wholeheartedly. As far as Christians not judging? Why don’t we look a little at the Bible, since that what Christians are supposed to obey.

First, no where in the Bible does it say that we should tolerate sin, and neither does God. Psalms 5:4 “God, you take no pleasure in wickedness; You [God] cannot tolerate the slightest sin.”

Christians are supposed to be like God, “…Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:16 Can we do this perfectly? No. But we serve a forgiving God, but he is also just. We, as Christians, aren’t perfect, but neither is anyone else. We Christians can’t do our “walk” in Christ Jesus perfectly, but we have to do what we can while remembering that Phillipians 4:13 says “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”

What does this mean as far as Christians judging others? 2 Chronicles 19:7 “Fear the Lord and judge with care, for the Lord our God does not tolerate perverted justice, partiality, or the taking of bribes.” It says judge with care, not make no judgments at all. This was said to the Jewish people, but it still applies to Christians (and everyone) today. In other words, tolerate nothing that is evil in God’s eyes (which is what sin is), and judge carefully because your actions and words will be judged as well. As for what sin is, look up “sin” in the Bible and you’ll find out.

Any other Christians have anything to add or subtract?

Leslie   February 17th, 2008 - 6:51 am

I am not sure why anyone cares about what a has-been, over weight basketball player thinks. Half the time you can’t even understand a word he says.

HOV   February 17th, 2008 - 6:55 am

Charlels Barkley…now there’s a real expert. Well OK maybe not an expert but he knows a lot of stuff…errr…well maybe not a lot of stuff, but he must know something after all he was a basketball player and that qualifies him for…hmmmm Ok, WHO CARES WHAT CHARLES BARKLEY HAS TO SAY.

SLO Calif.   February 17th, 2008 - 7:03 am

This guy must be a MUSLIM,
hating Christians like he does.

By the way…Christians can’t judge anyone to hell, but the Bible does tell Christ-ians to discern the Fruit / Fruits on the tree weather they are good or rotten / EVIL. Christians can (are allowed) to make judgments as to who are true born again Christians or NOT!

Most Democrats I know in California
HATE President Bush, Republicans, the POPE
and all Christians, but not all religions.
They like those religious reverends who are pro-Gay and pro-Choice and who teach that GOD is LOVE, and therefore not a God of Judgment! That collectively all mankind will enter into heaven regardless of living a SINFUL life.

These LIBERALS are admitted SOCIALIST’S.
All you have to do is listen to a guy who calls himself Santa Maria BILL on the Dave Congalton 920 AM Radio Program from 3:00 to 7:00 P.M. Monday thru Friday!
Santa Maria Bill is a straight up COLLECTIVIST and is PROUD of it. Dave Congalton is his mini-me…

Tony   February 17th, 2008 - 7:06 am

He’s 100% right.

PROUD CONSERVATIVE   February 17th, 2008 - 7:07 am

YOUR OPINION MEANS NO MORE THAN MINE, YOU OBESE HAS-BEEN…………

Steve   February 17th, 2008 - 7:08 am

Do you think he ever read that part in the Bible. Obviously not because he would have learned that the Bible tells us to judge according to the Word of God.

If he did that he wouldn’t be a backer of abortion and homosexuality. His problem is not with Christians it’s with the Bible. But I don’t think that by using the two brain cells that he has left, that he will be able to understand this.

MsPac   February 17th, 2008 - 7:12 am

Ok everyone I have to confess that I was just joking about supporting Charles Barkley.None of that stuff I posted about republicans is true,I just made it up.I actually voted for George W Bush twice…Conservatives Rock!

TC   February 17th, 2008 - 7:16 am

It is a shame that he is provided with a forum to spout such stupidity. It is really no surprise though. Barkley is notorious for speaking while his brain is disengaged.

Having an opinion on issues being right or wrong does not mean we are passing judgement, nor does it make us hypocrits. Christians do not pass judgement, because we understand that the day will come when we will all be held accountable for our actions.

Barkley can pass judgement on us “fake Christians” if he chooses. He will face his own judgement day and at that time he can attempt to explain his position to God.

Cracker Conservative   February 17th, 2008 - 7:24 am

All I know is that when I wake up in the morning, I will still be WHITE. Something Slob Barkley will never, ever be.

richard   February 17th, 2008 - 7:25 am

Mr. Barkley in 2014 I will come to Alabama and volunteer to help your run for Governor of that state or any other state. I believe the senior Senator from Idaho is an avowed christian, a fiscal conservative and a closet homosexual. Thanks for the refreshing candor and telling it like it is. Maybe you could name your campaign bus “the REAL straight talk express!”. Will Michael be your campaign chairman?

John   February 17th, 2008 - 7:30 am

Another fake thing about Republican Christians is they are supposed to care a litle about the less fortunate, the working poor. And how do they treat them? No health care for you, no raising the minimum wage for you. They make me sick. And as far as the person saying they Give more than any other group… yeah into programs for your own.

Steve   February 17th, 2008 - 7:30 am

Its amazing he finds so much time to talk. With his ever increasing waistline, he mouth must always be full of food. He won’t be able to run for Governor in 2014 because he will be too fat to fit in the mansion. The only place he belongs is in the Macy’s parade as one of the hot air balloons.

Joe Momma   February 17th, 2008 - 7:35 am

So, Conservatives are fake Christians?

He is for gay marriage and is pro-choice!

What does that make him?

Magistra   February 17th, 2008 - 7:48 am

Another charming example of our country being enamored with celebrities! He played NBA basketball and bought a house in Alabama – certainly THAT qualifies him to run for a political office. Good grief.

Professor Nitbiscuit   February 17th, 2008 - 7:50 am

Can someone print out all this commentary and send it to the big dumb ape? That way maybe if it doesn’t shock HIM into trying to get some semblance of an education for himself for his remaining days on Earth, at least he won’t let any offspring of his – and God forbid that he actually has any! – get this far in life being this incredibly uneducated and thick! It might actually do him some good.

Michael   February 17th, 2008 - 7:50 am

MsPac:”LOL..you guys are a hoot…been fun playing with you but as your numbers are small…I have better things to do”.

LOL…12 hours and 5 rather vitriolic posts later, we see Ms Pac unable to keep her word and move on. Perhaps she doesn’t have anything better to do than reamin on the attack, no?

Seems to me if you were so secure in your positions, you wouldn’t need to attack others for theirs.

Perhaps YOU should ask Charles to be considered for his Lt Gov. position. You have the makings of a modern day politician…duplicitous, angry and shallow.

Richard   February 17th, 2008 - 7:50 am

Its amazing how quickly people have jumped to conclusions about Charles. Perhaps he has a good reason for his comment. Perhaps most people who claim to be Christians really aren’t. Perhaps he is comparing “professing conservative Christians” with his good friend and real Christian Mark Cahill, who actually lives the Christian life – see his web site if you want to. People who don’t really know him shouldn’t be so quick to judge him.

Joe American   February 17th, 2008 - 7:51 am

He calls me a judge but yet he can judge me? I believe you to be a “fake American”.

Greg   February 17th, 2008 - 7:52 am

Here we go again….another tolerant, sensitive, open minded liberal condemning people again…..so tell me Charles, what is Christian about sucking an innocent child’s brain out??? That is what Liberals and Democrats espouse AD NAUSEUM…..I used to consider myself a liberal….no more….they have turned into the intolerant fascist’s they love to call anyone who disagrees with them, and I shudder to think what will happen to the country if they get their mitts on it again.

Steven   February 17th, 2008 - 7:56 am

I would have to disagree with Mr. Barkley.
When Jesus encounters an adulteror in the new testament, and the citizens of the city were wanting to stone her. They, the citizens, came to Jesus to seek His advice. Jesus spoke to the citizens saying, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” The citizens seeing that they have sinned themselves ran off. Jesus then tells the woman, “Your sins are forgiven you, go and sin no more.”

Unlike the woman’s neighbors, Jesus offers no condemnation, but grace and hope. A true believer offers the same principles of grace and hope. Sadly, not all of us live by this example. That is why I need grace and mercy everyday. It is my spiritual duty to stand up for the Truth.

Based on Charles’s description of a Christian, he sadly must not know any true Christ like believers. He bases his whole argument on generalization, and stereotypes.

P.S. Saying “killing an innocent baby is wrong” is not judgemental-it is an unarguable truth. No one thinks that saying murder is wrong is judgemental…

Steve   February 17th, 2008 - 7:57 am

So Barkley thinks conservatives are hypocrites because they’re against gay marriage and abortion when they should be forgiving. Does that mean we should also make theft or murder legal also because Christians should just forgive them too?

Encinitas Harkonen   February 17th, 2008 - 8:06 am

Hay Charles
Where in the bible does it say not to judge ?
Basketball players are natorious for screwing women and leaving them hanging. How many deaths of innocent babys do you have under your belt. And third I think we have a Cripto Gay here folks. Repent and call on the Lord !

Bob Rich   February 17th, 2008 - 8:06 am

Gee, I see an awful lot of judgement here of conservative Christians from someone who says we shouldn’t judge. A person who cannot make a judgement is brain dead. The fact is that most of us are lousy Christians because we are not as good as we should be, but usually we are much better than those who do not judge themselves or others. When you read and pray the Scriptures and still cannot make a judgement between right and wrong, you have a real problem. You sir, are an idiot.

Tom   February 17th, 2008 - 8:10 am

Actually, Michael, you are wrong. She was the one being attacked & she did a good job countering those attacks. Her posts re. the Repub scandals were factually correct. No wonder your nose is out of joint.

Eddie Estes   February 17th, 2008 - 8:13 am

I meant for the last line to say you don’t have a right to have them provided for you!!!

Skut   February 17th, 2008 - 8:17 am

Which Tele-Evangelical hack whipped up all you barnyard romancers into such a histrionic tizzy?

Yeh, yeh, yeh, Barkley’s not the most articulaute or graceful spokesman one could hope for, thanks for the priveliged view into the obvious.

But the vile rascism and hate vomiting out of all you smarmy “fake Christians” (yup, I said it) is absolutely nauseating.

Why do you people bring up Obama, what the hell does he have to do with Barkley? Unless of course your a race baiting bigot cowering in the face of the inevitable.

Joe   February 17th, 2008 - 8:22 am

Charles claimed, when traded to Houston, that he was looking forward to playing for the Rockets. He was especially happy about Houston have the best “strip clubs” in the country.

I can’t let this hypocrite call others hypocrites.

Ron   February 17th, 2008 - 8:40 am

Amazing to me how spitefully intolerant Sir Charles is about how spitefully intolerant Christians are. What a sad, pitiful soul Chuck Barkley is, a blessed recipient of the many benefits of a country founded on Christian principles, by mostly Christian men, and still guided by many, many Christian people.

Dennis   February 17th, 2008 - 8:43 am

What an absolute bozo. Don’t bother with politics Barkley. Stick to basketball. Keep supporing Obama and watch Hilary win. You’re an idot Barkley.

Mycroft   February 17th, 2008 - 8:46 am

He sounds awfully judgemental to me. Is that a generalization thorwn in.? Are all conservatives from the cristian right? Sir Charles does put