Rumsfeld Greeted by Screams of ‘War Criminal’ at White House Correspondents’ Dinner

"Here comes the war criminal!"

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dr jay   May 13th, 2009 - 11:46 am

rumsfeld opposed a larger number of troops early on which would have been significant as the surge showed.

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 11:53 am

Not to mention Bill Clinton had many chances to get UBL, but his weak policies missed him. Additionally Sandy Berger stole documents out of the national archives to cover this up. Where is the outrage on the left. Liberals are criminals. Bill Clinton lied under oath, Hillary lied about being shot. How offensive to all the americans who have been shot at and defended this nation. Obama is a hack and would never be my commander in chief. additionally two of the last democratic candidates for president are under federal investigation. Bill (mexican mafia) Richardson and pay to play. John (i’ll pay my mistress offf w/ campaign funds Edwards. How any liberal can have the audacity to call anyone criminal is beyond belief. Hillary also called general petreaus a liar. I and many vets i know will never support the lying, treasonous left.

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 11:55 am

As a veteran who retired in 2007, i will say it again. I will never support the liberal left. They are truly the criminals, and are responsible for americans dying because of their weak policies. Harry (the war is lost) Reid, Obama (i thought of serving in the military) Could never pass the background check and wouldn’t be allowed in because of his past drug use. Chuck Murtha accusing fellow marines of murder. John Kerry commiting treason w/ Jane Fonda. Chuck schumer comparing our troops to nazi’s. Homeland security calling our returning vets terrorists. No, the left says they support the troops but it is clear they do not! Now we know Nancy Pelosi is a liar about EIT and you want to defend the liberals. These people are the real criminals.

Monica   May 13th, 2009 - 12:15 pm

DesertThunder, thank you for your service…. It’s because of people like you and our military that we have been kept safe… Unlike the immediate future.
It will just be a matter of time, when the scum of the earth, like Dr. Mary Pfat Jordan the troll and the current administration let the scum of the earth in freely to plan some mass terrorist act.
My feelings wouldn’t be hurt if they start in Washington…

desertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 12:24 pm

I haven’t even mentioned how inept Jimmy Carter was on National Defense and how who killed americans with his weak hostage rescue attempt. Lierals do not support the troops aand are extremely inept on National Defense. And Hillary was in cahoots with Norman Hsu w/ illegal campaign contributions Obama was with him as well. Democrats make me ill.

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 12:27 pm

God Bless ASU for noting that their commencement speaker Obama doesnt have the qualifications to even receive an honorary degree. Even ASU knows Obama is a political hack born out of the cess pool of politics in Chicago. At least 2 of the last election democratic candidates are under federal investigation. Do you really belief Obama wasn’t involved any any misdeeds in Chicago. The guy is dirty from day one, and yet the left defends this empty suit at every turn.

dr jay   May 13th, 2009 - 12:33 pm

mary pat, i wanted rumsfeld to do in more arabs and listen to our generals more rather than replacing those that disagreed with him. i do not agree with you on anything.
Desert Thunder, Amen brother, Amen!

dennisl59   May 13th, 2009 - 12:49 pm

God has Mercy for America. B.Hussein Obama does not have a son. Thank you Jesus!

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Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   May 13th, 2009 - 12:56 pm

America…and they call the right wingers…wacko?

It is okay to have your opinions and take sides, but it is never appropriate to do what the democratzi do by striking out by screaming at someone and calling them names.

But this is what you get from the ultra-liberal, left wingers of the Democratzi party!

Closest thing to “nuts” as you will ever see in politics!

Listen up Democratzi…here’s a clue…you are all being used as fools!

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JUST ANOTHER PATHETIC DAY IN THE ‘REIGN OF BARRY HUSSEIN’ AND HIS CRAZY LOONS!

BILL5321   May 13th, 2009 - 1:14 pm

Dr. Mary Pat Jordan is the woman in the photo! I think so.

fande3rls   May 13th, 2009 - 1:18 pm

to DesertThunder : Thank YOU for YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE, from a greatful fellow American.
GOD Bless and GODSPEED.

Gandhi's Fist   May 13th, 2009 - 1:39 pm

One of the demonazis’s “sarong-shirts.”

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 2:10 pm

Airhead,
And Obama wanted to surrender totally. How was his policy going to help Iraq or American serviceman. The left is so clueless on defense. Their policies are tragic.

Observer   May 13th, 2009 - 2:11 pm

I wonder how many innocent, defenseless babies those screaming fanatics have flushed down the toilet?

Three cheers for the rational behaviour of the Obama fan club.

Airwick   May 13th, 2009 - 2:11 pm

Whatever you think of the Iraq War, this guy clearly dropped the ball. He tried to win the war on the cheap, didn’t send enough troops (even though professionals like Gen Shinseki wanted a larger force), and had the nerve to tell our guys that ” You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have “. Gee, that’s strange, Rumdummy, we DID have that Army (and equipment). You just didn’t want to send enough of it.

In short, we suffered higher casualties than we had to because of him. Tell THAT to the guys at the Bethesda Naval Hospital or to the families who lost someone over there. Not even President Bush could stomach him when he left.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 2:12 pm

Lest we forget the 4th Division got held up in Turkey as well. Simple minds like the faux doctor tend to ignore facts on the ground for those in the stars. And our “rush to war” liberals were always screaming about took over 6 months. Don’t believe me? Research presidential speeches leading up to that date. You’ll also find that in most speeches, along with the talk of WMD’s almost in the same breath he talks of freeing the people of Iraq. So much for the theory it was all about WMD’s, simple minds. You might not actually look so stupid if you’d actually open your eyes to the world around rather than living in your safe little elitist bubbles in your zerg like world.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 2:15 pm

Oh look, Airhead chirping in again with no facts, just gossip from the HuffPo. You liberals get more stupid by the day.

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 2:18 pm

I will give Obama credit for not releasing the detainee photos a prudent decision which will no doubt save american lives. He probably came to this conclusion after realizing that Pelosi fully knew what was going on and whole heartedly agreed with EIT. Still the Liberals are weak on National Defense and do not support the troops.

Talen   May 13th, 2009 - 2:21 pm

I bet those armpits had quite the stank to them.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 2:25 pm

I’d even go a few steps farther than that DT, I call them out and out traitorous. From Murtha condemning the troops before even seeing any evidence to the contrary, but then the democrats had to act fast. With Al-Quaeda turning over Al-Zarqawi like they did things were unravelling for the dems fast in order for them to turn the war into a political football like VietNam.

Harry Reid and the war is already lost…so many examples of treason I could go on and on and on.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 2:26 pm

So you settle on your own bollox to make your point, how liberal of you. lol This is as comical as your waterboarding the Al-Quaeda leader 183 times!!!! That was the gospel truth too, wasn’t it, dipschyt. Better reload, this dog won’t hunt.

Airwick   May 13th, 2009 - 2:29 pm

Sundowner,
What facts have you ever presented? The only things that you ever post on this site are insults.

Fact #1: Shinseki DID want to send more troops. The conventional thought at the time amongst most professional soldiers was that we needed nearly 500,000 troops to control a country of Iraq’s size and population. Out of the resulting chaos came the insurrection that resulted in the vast majority of our casualties.

Fact #2: Rumdummy DID say that. Remember?

Fact #3: Nobody was weeping when he finally “resigned” and left the Administration.

Rob   May 13th, 2009 - 2:41 pm

Was that a dude in drag?!

Rumsfeld should have pushed that overgrown child down the stairs! Here comes the…..awwwwww!

WarHorse   May 13th, 2009 - 2:42 pm

How did the ultra-libs miss aborting those three? Ultra-libs are so proud and diligent in killing their own offspring, and yet they forgot to abort those three. See what happens when the abortionists miss three perfect candidates for abortion?

Please, all ultra-libs, I implore you – abort all of your unborn children – I fervently support your right to commit genocide in the womb – abort all of your unborn; make the world a better place!

DesertThunder   May 13th, 2009 - 2:44 pm

Thanks Monica and Fande3rls!

AW   May 13th, 2009 - 3:02 pm

Dear crazy liberal loons,

Instead of wasting your time, such as these crazy women were doing, why don’t you go and help a child or adult learn to read. That would be a much better use of your time and energy.

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Dr.M.L.Kingfish   May 13th, 2009 - 3:16 pm

we haven’t tried to win a war since WWII.
we could have made Nam a radioactive sandbox and not set one foot on the ground.
one cannot have a PC war.
we deal with an enemy that wears no uniform and is willing to kill themselves to kill us.
we need to bomb countries into submission,not rebuild and seize control of their assets.
if anyone thinks they would not use everything in their arsenal to destroy our way of life , you are a fool.

Airwick   May 13th, 2009 - 3:20 pm

I am still waiting for a fact, “dipschyt”. Are you denying that Rumdummy said that? It WAS on TV. How did the “liberal, mainstream media” manipulate that one, smart boy? Shinseki is on record with his opinions of troop levels in Iraq. Is this another “lib” fabrication? How did they make that one up? Who, besides you, missed Rumdummy when he left Defense? Pretty much everyone, including Republicans and Democrats thinks that Gates is a far better Defense Secretary.

But I expect too much from the likes of you. Go back and listen to Rush some more to get fresh talking points.

Body Count   May 13th, 2009 - 3:31 pm

Ok, so according to the Official Iraqi Body Count website, they have come up with a high number of 100,000 deaths, not the “millions” that wack job is claiming. Why do these idiotic women always seem to scream out BS “facts” instead of stating the truth? Oh wait, Millions sounds better than a hundred thousand. My bad!

Airwick   May 13th, 2009 - 3:36 pm

DevilDog,
There is absolutely no doubt that these Harpies are making fools out of themselves. It looks like they haven’t seen soap in a while either! The main beef I have about Rummy is that I feel that he cost us unnecessary casualties. That is inexcusable for a Defense Secretary. Our guys deserve better than that.

All the best, fellow Jarhead.

Semper Fi

Marine   May 13th, 2009 - 3:37 pm

Airwick,

Regardless of how you feel about Rummy (I don’t hold him in high esteem either), will you agree with me that these women are just making dumbarses out of themselves? I guess Rummy is lucky that they didn’t decide to throw their shoes….

I have to agree with Talen about the armpits…

Semper Fi

Time for a revolution   May 13th, 2009 - 3:40 pm

As long as i have been alive, the left has been pushing and complaining.Time to push back and hard.The tea parties were the birth pangs of revolution…and when we get done you liberal same sex ladies wont be getting any tea bag action, we are saving that for our wives.

Iraq Vet x2   May 13th, 2009 - 3:47 pm

Rummy deserves all of this treatment and more.

Yes, the claims of these dorks are inflated and exagerated.

But the underlying TRUTH is that Rummy’s incompetence (and Bush’s complicity by standing behind him) cost 1000s of US lives and unnecessarily extended the Iraq war by years.

Rummy’s failed tactics almost lost us the Iraq adventure. What all of you Rummy cheerleaders don’t know is that inside the military, the Rummy strategy for Iraq is a case study in how NOT to fight a war….it’s an example of failure and tragedy.

N Waff   May 13th, 2009 - 5:49 pm

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Let me guess. These are the same people who defend the choice to inflict the pain of dismembering the arms /legs and decapitating the heads off children in the womb, defending the choice of abortion.
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That’s just a guess.

Boy in BOYCOTT   May 13th, 2009 - 6:16 pm

Rumsfeld should have a chorus of THOUSANDS shouting War Criminal everywhere he goes.

send the troll to the HAGUE!

BostonMan   May 13th, 2009 - 7:28 pm

This is clearly staged…the camera followed in the first woman into the Hilton and then…just by chance happened to find Rummy and his wife and followed them in?

Give me a break…this was a complete setup for publicity. If they are calling him a war criminal they are calling all our troops war criminals as well, don’t let them tell you anything different.

~ M.

Jack   May 13th, 2009 - 7:33 pm

ENLIST those women for front line duty in Afghanistan. Equal Rights Eh.!

BILL5321   May 13th, 2009 - 7:35 pm

Boy in BOYCOTT

We should have a chorus of THOUSANDS shouting War Criminal everywhere Nancy Pelosi goes.

send the Nancy Pelosi to the HAGUE!

She knew and did nothing!

Nancy Pelosi is a war criminal!

dr jay   May 13th, 2009 - 7:45 pm

Airwick, i cant say as i always agree with you but i do respect you and i agree with you here. the facts about rumsfeld’s mismanagement are incontrovertible. I lost family in one mismanaged war(your war) and have had a friend wounded in this one.
The big issues i had with the bush administration involved his listening to a very closed in group of people for advice. i have even graver concerns about this potus trying to run a war in an area that has repelled every invasion in history.
rumsfeld is not a war criminal. he is a man who made a judgment call opposite of astute military advice. our soldiers died and were wounded because of this. history shows this to be true again and again. the british went “over the top” in 1916 and lost 60,000 troops on the FIRST day of the somme, marching the cream of british manhood in to maxim machine guns and artillery. a general killed those people by ignoring advice and went back to his tent and had tea. so it goes.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 8:25 pm

dr jay,

With all due respect you seem to be losing track of the timeline alot like Airhead has been. I pointed out earlier how we had bin Laden himself cough up al-Zarqawi because of the way the war was going, how things were “relatively peaceful” up until the democratics traitors started their drumbeat of defeat. Abu Ghraib, blown totally out of proportion by a liberal press, the Haditha marines, who by the way have been totally exonerated but you don’t hear Murtha issuing an apologies, you name it…liberals turned this war into a political football for their personal gains.

Rumsfeld was made to be the bad guy, some of it justified possibly. But condemning someone in hindsight for a war that was already on the rbink of victory once with the same amount of troops is just wrong on so many levels. The whole problem throughout that war was thinking releasing areas we gained control of back to the Iraqi’s was the “right thing to do”. Much in the same way worldwide opinion was against our holding POW’s and releasing them back into a climate with no work or future.

You go right ahead and condemn Rumsfeld along with Airhead, it’s obvious you’ve never had that type of leadership role yet in life. Condemning people after the fact is the reason we’re in this mess of a world today having followed 8 years of BDS. I for one will not condemn the man who was once on the verge of winning the war only to have his judgment questioned later after making a mockery of the war by the democrats. Maybe you should try aiming some of that venom at the party responsible.

KansasGirl   May 13th, 2009 - 8:29 pm

Notice how much class Rumsfeld has?

Tom   May 13th, 2009 - 8:54 pm

The Women appeared to doing their audition tapes to be reporters for the nightly news.

manhattanman   May 13th, 2009 - 9:25 pm

Was taht Rachel Madcow or Jeanenne Buffalo?
Or possibly “Diaper-boy” Obermann?

dr jay   May 13th, 2009 - 9:58 pm

Sundowner, i agree with you first paragraph wholeheartedly. i have as much dislike for leftists as anyone you could meet short, of violent people. bill clinton and the un are idiots for the errors of 92-2000 in dealing with islamofascits, they dropped the ball in so many ways. i dislike rumsfeld because he ignored sound advice about escalating our troop levels, thats all. he certainly is not a war criminal. and yes its all hindsight. as to your quote

“You go right ahead and condemn Rumsfeld along with Airhead, it’s obvious you’ve never had that type of leadership role yet in life. Condemning people after the fact is the reason we’re in this mess of a world today having followed 8 years of BDS. I for one will not condemn the man who was once on the verge of winning the war only to have his judgment questioned later after making a mockery of the war by the democrats. Maybe you should try aiming some of that venom at the party responsible.”

i am as venomous a person at condemning leftists as you’ll find. murtha is a traitor. most of the current admin i believe are traitors. as far as leadership goes, i am an md(unlike mary pat) and was chief of staff once at the local hospital and hated it. i have had to make many difficult choices in the 20 years i have done this job. if i have had the luxury to consult with other specialists, i listen to their advice.

demdicks   May 13th, 2009 - 10:13 pm

I can’t wait until these leftists get their due, and they will. They THINK there are so many of them, but they just get sympathetic cameras from the drive bys to make them look more plentiful. The “skirmishes and scrums” will bear this out.

Sundowner   May 13th, 2009 - 10:35 pm

Re-reading my post after you quoted me dr jay, I came off a bit harsh and I’m sorry about that. I’m just tired of this relentless string of stupidity offered up by the left. Which general was it a couple years back said something something to the effect you just can’t fix stupid or something to that effect. hehe Listening to these liberals rant and moan day in and day out gets a bit tedious to put the best spin on it I can. Especially airhead here mouths off about the torture a week or so ago and turns out their facts, much like their usual stories, was all twisted up with liberal spin they regard as fact.

And the point you made about Rumsfeld and the troop levels I can understand that, that kind of ties in with what I was saying about him being at one point on the verge of winning the war back in 2006…we’d have to read his mind to know what he was thinking exactly but I’m ok on agreeing to disagree on that, after all nobody is perfect.

Boy in BOYCOTT   May 13th, 2009 - 11:31 pm

ANY man of honor who KNEW he lied our soldiers into an unnecessary war, left them too few soldiers to be effective, left them unequipped with basic armor for their bodies or vehicles, and had ZERO plans for after the initial shock and awe was finished…should go do felatio on his own revolver, and save the Nation the bother of trying him.

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Whatwhatwhat   May 14th, 2009 - 12:30 am

The right-wing’s protection of this man and denials of the truth about what he committed shows clearly why the GOP is finished as a national party.

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 12:47 am

no sweat sundowner, airwick did his time in the Marines and has earned the right to say what he wants even if it is something i disagree with, which is most of the time. i think a lot of the libtards on here are acorn or obama administration plants. i think they are trolling for militia members to turn in to homeland security or something like that. at the very least they are part of a vast left wing conspiracy(to quote hilliary…sort of) to disseminate misinformation.

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 1:03 am

what cubed, the dems will be finished for quite a while after this horrific economic policy fails. you folks will lose ground in 2010 and your messiah will not be re-elected in 2012. if i am wrong then i am gone. like john galt i am taking my motor and leaving this country to rot in its liberal filth.

Sundowner   May 14th, 2009 - 7:46 am

like john galt i am taking my motor and leaving this country to rot in its liberal filth.
————–

This got me thinking, can you imagine how fast this country would disintegrate should, according to the liberal talking points, if those evil CEO heads, leaders of communities and evil moral compasses, along with over 50% of the country (those who actually consider themselves somewhat conservative in most all polls) should up and leave this forthcoming snake pit? lol

On the flip side, those liberals that take over and try to manage business as CEO’s and leaders of the communities, think of just how fast they’re going to get sick of the hate spewed their way when there were no more republicans to hate on. lol They were turn on themselves with a vengeance and a fury unlike anything seen in the wild.

BILL5321   May 14th, 2009 - 7:50 am

Nancy Pelosi is a war criminal!

kmichaels   May 14th, 2009 - 12:15 pm

BoyOnBoy, useless leftist troll.
Dr Gay Pat, useless leftist troll.

Too bad we dont have the ignore button that just makes some posts disappear from the view.

Here is the phone number for concerned parents and citizens to call Dr Mary Pat Jordan’s school where she is listed as principal and demand that she get fired for using tax money to post on blogs all day long, like she does.

Call often, until she is removed.

133 Mckinley Ave
Lake Villa, IL 60046
Phone: (847) 356-2118
Lake Villa Community Consolidated School District 41

kmichaels   May 14th, 2009 - 12:23 pm

It is simplistic to think and say that Rumsfeld opposed a larger number of troops. He stated that he would let the generals on the ground decide for the most part what the correct number was and at that time the consensus was that the number of troops was sufficient.

It is also true that given enough time, even the number of troops that they had would lead to a more stable Iraq.

Why is it that we dont need a larger number of troops now? Because things got more stable over time and more Iraqis were trained over time.

The surge sped up the process but time had also passed. It is foolish to think that we will ever know the exact cause and or timing of things getting better.

And more funny still is the idiot leftists that wanted less troops then are now saying Rumsfeld should have sent in more troops.

And no, I am not calling dr jay a leftist. He is an honest person and thought we should have more troops. I did too. However, I also remember that the military at that time thought (for the most part) that the troop level was right.

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 12:37 pm

i know you’re not calling me a leftist kmichaels but thanks. there was a nice book on the battle of fallujah that detailed the errors following the massacre of those civilian contractors( the horrific pictures on the bridge). in that book the author pointed out the disconnect between the on site commanders/local generals and the politicos in washington. the lack of follow up when an initial battle was won due to politician interference was very disheartening and led to the much more costly larger battle later on. my contention about rumsfeld has to do with politicians running wars and i know it is all hindsight(i am sure i would have done a worse job). also, i could be wrong about my point anyways.
if you want to see politicians really screw up then just watch bho screw the pooch in afghanistan. bho was ready to have the hostage captain murdered because he was too timid to take out the pirates. 2 seal ops denied and a no shoot order when the captain jumped overboard. the only reason the captain was saved was the commander of the bainbridge used maritime law to circumvent obamas fbi team that flew in to protect the pirates. ill post an email i got directly from a seal officer.

Your “Real” story is not exactly the way I heard it, and probably has a few political twists thrown in to stir the pot. Rather than me trying to correct it, I’ll just tell you what I found out from my contacts at NSWC Norfolk and at SOCOM Tampa.

First though, let me orient you to familiarize you with the “terrain.”

In Africa from Djibouti at the southern end of the Red Sea eastward through the Gulf of Aden to round Cape Guardafui at the easternmost tip of Africa (also known as “The Horn of Africa”) is about a 600 nm transit before you stand out into the Indian Ocean. That transit is comparable in distance to that from the mouth of the Mississippi at New Orleans to the tip of Florida at Key West– except that 600 nm over there is infested with Somalia pirates.

Ships turning southward at the Horn of Africa transit the SLOC (Sea Lane of Commerce) along the east coast of Somalia because of the prevailing southerly currents there. It’s about 1,500 nm on to Mombassa, which is just south of the equator in Kenya. Comparably, that’s about the transit distance from Portland Maine down the east coast of the US to Miami Florida. In other words, the ocean area being patrolled by our naval forces off the coast of Somalia is comparable to that in the Gulf of Mexico from the Mississippi River east to Miami then up the eastern seaboard to Maine.

Second, let me globally orient you from our Naval Operating Base in Norfolk, VA, east across the Atlantic to North Africa, thence across the Med to Suez in Egypt, thence southward down the Red Sea to Djibouti at the Gulf of Aden, thence eastward to round Cape Guardafui at the easternmost tip of Africa, and thence southerly some 300 miles down the east cost of Somali out into the high seas of the Indian Ocean to the position of MV ALABAMA is a little more than 7,000 nm, and plus-nine time-zones ahead of EST.

Hold that thought, in that, a C-17 transport averaging a little better than 400 kts (SOG) takes the best part of 18 hours to make that trip. In the evening darkness late Thursday night, a team of Navy SEALs from NSWC (Naval Surface Warfare Center) Norfolk parachuted from such a C-17 into the black waters (no refraction of light) of the Indian Ocean– close-aboard to our 40,000 ton amphibious assault ship, USS BOXER (LHD 4), the flagship of our ESG (Expeditionary Strike Group) in the AOR (Area Of Responsibility, the Gulf of Aden). They not only parachuted in with all of their “equipment,” they had their own inflatable boats, RHIB’s (Rigid Hull, Inflatable Boats) with them for over-water transport. They went into BOXER’s landing dock, debarked, and staged for the rescue– Thursday night.

And, let me comment on time-late: In that the SEAL’s quick response– departing ready-alert in less than 4 hours from Norfolk– supposedly surprised POTUS’s staff, whereas President Obama was miffed not to get his “cops” there before the Navy. He reportedly questioned his staff, “Will ‘my’ FBI people get there before the Navy does?” It took the FBI almost 12 hours to put together a team and get them packed-up– for an “at sea” rescue. The FBI was trying to tell him that they are not practiced to do this– Navy SEALs are. But, BHO wanted the FBI there “to help,” that is, carry out the Attorney General’s (his) orders to negotiate the release of Captain Phillips peacefully– because apparently he doesn’t trust GW’s military to carry out his “political guidance.”

The flight of the FBI’s passenger jet took a little less than 14 hours at 500-some knots to get to Djibouti. BOXER’S helos picked them up and transported them out to the ship. The Navy SEALs were already there, staged, and ready to act by the time POTUS’s FBI arrived on board latter that evening. Notably, the first request by the OSC (On Scene Commander) that early Friday morning to take them out and save Captain Phillips was denied, to wit: “No, wait until ‘my’ FBI people get there.”

Third, please consider a candid assessment of ability that finds that the FBI snipers had never practiced shooting from a rolling, pitching, yawing, surging, swaying, heaving platform– and, target– such as a ship and a lifeboat on the high seas. Navies have been doing since Admiral Nelson who had trained “Marines” to shoot muskets from the ship’s rigging– ironically, he was killed at sea in HMS VICTORY at the Battle of Trafalgar by a French Marine rifleman that shot him from the rigging of the French ship that they were grappling alongside.

Notably, when I was first training at USNA in 1955, the Navy was doing it with a SATU, Small Arms Training Unit, based at our Little Creek amphib base. Now, Navy SEAL’s, in particular SEAL Team SIX (The “DevGru”) based at NSWC (Naval Surface Warfare Center) at Little Creek do that training now, and hone their skills professionally– daily. Shooting small arms from a ship is more of an accomplished “Art Form” than it is a practiced skill. When you are “in the bubble” and “in tune” with the harmonic motion you find, through practice, that you are “able to put three .308 slugs inside the head of a quarter at 100 meters, in day or night– or, behind a camouflaged net or a thin enclosure, such as a superstructure bulkhead. Yes, we have the monocular scopes that can “see” heat– and, draw a bead on it. SEALs are absolutely expert at it– with the movie clips to prove it.

Okay, now try to imagine patrolling among the boats fishing everyday out on the Grand Banks off our New England coast, and then responding to a distress call from down around the waters between Florida and the Bahamas. Three points for you to consider here: (1) Time-Distance-Speed relationships for ships on the high seas, for instance, at a 25-knot SOA (Speed Of Advance) it takes 24 hours to make good 600 nm– BAINBRIDGE did. (2) Fishermen work on the high seas, and (3) The best place to hide as a “fisherman” pirate is among other fishermen

Early Wednesday morning, 4/8/2009, MV ALABAMA is at sea in the IO about 300 miles off the (east) coast of Somalia en route to Mombassa Kenya. Pirates in small boat start harassing her, and threatening her with weapons. MV ALABAMA’s captain sent out the distress call by radio, and ordered his Engineer to shut down the engines as well as the ship-service electrical generators– in our lingo, “Go dark and cold.” He informed his crew by radio what was happening, and ordered them to go to an out-of-the-way compartment and lock themselves in it– from the inside. He would stay in the pilot house to “negotiate” with the pirates.

The pirates boarded, captured the Captain, and ordered him to start the engines. He said he would order his Engineer to do so, and he called down to Engine Control on the internal communication system, but got no answer. The lead pirate ordered two of his four men to go down and find him and get the engines started.

Inside a ship without any lights is like the definition of dark. The advantage goes to the people who work and live there. They jumped the two pirates in a dark passageway. Both pirates lost their weapons, but one managed to scramble and get away. The other they tied up, put tape over his mouth and a knife at his throat.

Other members of the crew opened the drain cocks on the pirates boat and cast it adrift. It foundered and sunk. The scrambling pirate made it back to the pilot house and told of his demise. The pirates took the Captain at gun point, and told him to launch one of his rescue boats (not a life boat, per se). As he was lowering the boat for them, the crew appeared with the other pirate to negotiate a trade. The crew let their hostage go to soon, and the pirates kept the captain. But, he purposefully had lowered the boat so it would jam.

With the rescue boat jammed, the pirates jumped over to a lifeboat and released it as the captain jumped in the water. They fired at him, made him stop, and grabbed him out of the water. Now, as night falls in the vastness of the Indian Ocean, we have the classic “Mexican” standoff, to wit: A life-boat that is just that, a life-boat adrift without any means of propulsion except oars and paddles; and, a huge (by comparison) Motor Vessel Container Ship adrift with a crew that is not going to leave their captain behind. The pirates are enclosed under its shelter-covering, holding the captain as their hostage. The crew is hunkered down in their ship waiting for the “posse” to arrive.

After receiving MV ALABAMA’S distress call, USS BAINBRIDGE (DDG 96) was dispatched by the ESG commander to respond to ALABAMA’s distress call. At best sustainable speed, she arrived on scene the day after– that is, in the dark of that early Thursday morning. As BAINBRIDGE quietly and slowly, at darkened-ship without any lights to give her away, arrived on scene, please consider a recorded interview with the Chief Engineer of MV ALABAMA describing BAINBRIDGE’s arrival. He said it was something else “… to see the Navy slide in there like a greyhound!” He then said as she slipped in closer he could see the “Stars and Stripes” flying from her masthead. He got choked up saying it was the “…proudest moment of my life.”

Phew! Let that sink in.
Earlier in the day, one of the U.S. Navy’s Maritime Patrol Aircraft, a fixed wing P3C, flew over to recon the scene. They dropped a buoy with a radio to the pirates so that the Navy’s interpreter could talk with the pirates. When BAINBRIDGE arrived, the pirates thought the radio to be a beaconing device, and threw it overboard. They wanted a satellite telephone so that they could call home for help. Remember now, they are fishermen, not “Rocket Scientists,” in that, they don’t know that we can intercept the phone transmission also.

MV ALABAMA provided them with a satellite phone. They called home back to “somebody” in Eyl Somalia (so that we now know where you live) to come out and get them. The “somebody” in Eyl said they would be out right away with other hostages, like 54 of them from other countries, and that they would be coming out in two of their pirated ships. Right– and, the tooth fairy will let you have sex with her. Yea, in paradise. The “somebody” in Eyl just chalked up four more expendables as overhead for “the cost of operation.” Next page.

Anyway, ESG will continue to “watch” Eyl for any ships standing out.

The Navy SEAL team, SEAL TEAM SIX, from NSWC briefed the OSC (Commander Castellano, CO BAINBRIDGE) on how they could rescue the captain from the life boat with swimmers– “Combat Swimmers,” per se. That plan was denied by POTUS because it put the captain in danger– and, involved killing the pirates.

The FBI negotiators arrived on scene, and talked the pirates into sending their wounded man over for treatment Saturday morning. Later that afternoon, the SEAL’s sent over their RHIB with food and water to recon the life boat but the pirates shot at it. They could have taken them out then (from being fired upon) but were denied again being told that the captain was not in “imminent danger.” The FBI negotiators calmed the situation by informing the pirates of threatening weather as they could see storm clouds closing from the horizon, and offered to tow the life boat. The pirates agreed, and BAINBRIDGE took them under tow in their wake at 30 meters– exactly 30 meters, which is exactly the distance the SEALs practice their shooting skills.

With the lifeboat under tow, riding comfortably bow-down on BAINBRIDGE’s wake-wave (”rooster tail”), had a 17-second period of harmonic motion, and at the end of every half-period (8.5 seconds) was steady on. The light-enhanced (infra-red heat) monocular scopes on the SEAL’s .308 caliber Mark 11 Mod 0 H&K suppressor-fitted sniper rifles easily imaged their target very clearly. Pirates in a life boat at 30-meters could be compared to fish in a barrel. All that was necessary was to take out the plexiglass window so that it would not deflect the trajectory of the high velocity .308 round. So, a sniper (one of four) with a wad-cutter round (a flaxen sabot) would take out the window a split second before the kill-shot– no change in sight-picture, just the window blowing out, clean.

Now, here’s the part BHO’s “whiz kids” knew as well as the Navy hierarchy, including CO BAINBRIDGE and CO SEAL TEAM SIX. It’s the law in Article 19 of Appendix L in the “Convention of the High Seas” that the Commanding Officer of a US Ship on the high seas is obligated to respond to distress signals from any flagged ship (US or otherwise), and protect the life and property thereof when deemed to be in IMMINENT DANGER. So, in the final analysis, it would be Captain Castellano call as to “Imminent Danger,” and that he alone was obligated (duty bound) to act accordingly.

Got the picture?

After medically attending to the wounded pirated, and feeding him, come first light (from the east) on Easter Sunday morning and the pirates saw they were being towed further out to sea (instead of westward toward land), the wounded pirate demanded to be returned to the lifeboat. There would BE NO more negotiations– and, the four Navy SEAL snipers “in the bubble” went “Unlock.” The pirate holding Captain Philips raised the gun to his head, and IMMINENT DANGER was so observed and noted in the Log as CO BAINBRIDGE gave the classic order: WEAPONS RELEASED! I can hear the echo in my earpiece now, “On my count (from 8.5 seconds), 3, 2, 1, !” POP, BANG! Out went the window, followed by three simultaneous shots. The scoreboard flashed: “GAME OVER, GAME OVER– NAVY 3, PIRATES 0!”

I hope you found the above informative as best I know it– and, please excuse me in that after more than 50 years the Navy is still in me. I submit that AMERICA is going to make a comeback, and more than likely it’ll be on the back of our cherished youth serving with honor in Our military. So, let’s
Look Up, Get Up– and, Never Give Up!

kmichaels   May 14th, 2009 - 12:38 pm

There was on sign of the generals being yes men. I was in the military. Generals are rarely yes men. Powell is a rare exception. He was quite the suck up from what I hear. Your claim that they were intimidated into not asking for more troops is pure BS guessing. And if true, why do some of the leftists make the claim that the generals did ask for more troops. You cant have it both ways. And the surge that happened after Rumsfeld left is like saying the sun shone after he left. And that people still had breakfast after he left. Is is irrelevant. Rumsfeld left because he and Bush decided that he was a political liability. The MSM press had done their Alinsky trick on him and ridiculed him left and right. I would have preferred that he stayed. He is an American hero and did our country proud. But he buckled under pressure of politics. Too bad. But it is obvious that if he stayed or did not stay more troops would have been sent because Bush made the decision to send them based on the generals on the ground coming to a consensus of wanting them.

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 12:43 pm

ok kmichaels, ill do some more looking in to rummy and see if youre right. you seem pretty convicted about this so ill hit the net and ask some friends of mine(still active military) what their thoughts are.
read the post of mine above, its interesting.

Airwick   May 14th, 2009 - 12:44 pm

kmichaels,
If you get rid of or intimidate the brass to the point that the generals become “yes men”, then don’t you pretty much assure that no one will ask for more troops? I don’t think that it is just a coincidence that the Surge took place AFTER Rummy left and not before.

Boy in BOYCOTT   May 14th, 2009 - 12:45 pm

The reason Rumsfeld sent too few troops to Iraq, was because they knew if the DRAFT had to be reinstated to fight this stupid LIE, the scrutiny would have cancelled their misadventure.

kmichaels   May 14th, 2009 - 12:51 pm

The reason I call BoyOnBoy a useless pathetic troll is because he is a useless pathetic troll.

naql   May 14th, 2009 - 1:04 pm

He’s a better man than me… how he resisted punching that crazy witch in the face, I’ll never understand.

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 1:10 pm

i think boyonboy is an acorn plant.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   May 14th, 2009 - 1:13 pm

Dear dr jay…you mean like a real “nut”?

Sorry…I couldn’t pass that one up!

dr jay   May 14th, 2009 - 1:29 pm

cute Eileen. but this nut makes the squirrels sick.

jbenson   May 14th, 2009 - 4:39 pm

those responsible for 9/11 attacks died on 9/11. you can’t prosecute the culprit of a SUICIDE attack.

what America can (and did) do, was commit economic and political suicide in some sort of hair brain attempt to revenge 9/11. Bush/Cheney are the most inept (retarded) group to ever find positions of influence. They got manipulated by a group of poorly educated thugs whose most effective weapons were box-knives and snarls.

America has some nerve to try to cohesively export its values. America, the school-yard bully, got punked by Bin Laden.

grik   May 14th, 2009 - 6:21 pm

Like the Greek Furies seeking justice, God bless you ladies for you speak the truth. They should not have stopped your mouths and led you away.

Donald Rumsfeld you EVIL OLD MAN, YOU ARE A WAR CRIMINAL.

The GOP cannot stand free speach and face the truth. Their words are used to disguise the facts and mislead.

rufrignkidnme   May 14th, 2009 - 9:21 pm

Millions of Iraqi’s? This is the intelligence level of the left. and the right who have an intelligence level below 100. I think that is our largest problem. So many dumb people and they all have a vote.

After seeing this and reading posts here, including this one, how can you not agree unless you’re one of them?

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