|
|||||||||||||||
 |
Raw: Pentagon Releases Video of Iranian Boats Confronting US Warships |
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|||||||||||||||
Vote for 9iu1ian1, or the terrorists win!
“Fire!”
Gee. Really great video of…….some boats.
Not this time George. Not buying it.
Using my name wont help the retarded conspiracy theory nutjobs either…
So desperate, so retarded…
Be scared, be very scared. You’re government masters are depending on it.
“Vote for 9iu1ian1, OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!
Are you freakin crazy! This is an attack on our national sovereignty and we need to respond!
If Rudy or McCain were president, we’d already be in there taking their damn oil, and defending our freedoms.”
Trying to pretend you’re me, because being you must suck wont help the nutjob conspiracy theorists…
Now even if I believe the press release about the Iranian provocation, these videos show nothing at all. Some guy talking on a phone and some dark blobs so far away you can’t make out what they are. Looks more like one of those flying saucer videos than a provocative fake assault of US ships.
How big was the boat that blew up the USS Cole?
“Vote for 9iu1ian1, OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!
Are you freakin crazy! This is an attack on our national sovereignty and we need to respond!
If Rudy or McCain were president, we’d already be in there taking their damn oil, and defending our freedoms.â€
Trying to pretend you’re me, because being you must suck wont help the nutjob conspiracy theorists. Neither Rudy nor McCain will win.
(I don’t know why the timestamps are messed up…bart must be having issues again too…)
Check out the Navy’s take on it: http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=34207
Three U.S. Navy Ships Approached by Iranian Boats
From Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/Commander, U.S. 5th Fleet Public Affairs
BAHRAIN (NNS) — Following a routine transit through the Strait of Hormuz, Jan. 6, three U.S. Navy ships operating in international waters in the Persian Gulf were approached by five Iranian small boats that demonstrated irresponsible confrontational behavior near the U.S. ships.
U.S. Navy ships USS Port Royal (CG 73), USS Hopper (DDG 70) and USS Ingraham (FFG 61) were steaming in formation at approximately 8 a.m. as they finished a routine Strait of Hormuz transit when five boats, suspected to be from the Islamic Republic of Iran Revolutionary Guard Navy (IRGCN), maneuvered aggressively in close proximity of the Hopper. Following standard procedure, Hopper issued warnings, attempted to establish communications with the small boats and conducted evasive maneuvering.
Coalition vessels, including U.S. Navy ships, routinely operate in the vicinity of both Islamic Republic of Iran Navy and IRGCN vessels and aircraft. These interactions are always correct on the U.S. part and reflect a commitment to accepted tenets of international law and common practice.
For more news from Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/Commander, U.S. 5th Fleet, visit http://www.navy.mil/local/cusnc/.
I swear, anybody who uses this forum is an inbred deluded fool.
It really is incredible how you leftists ALWAYS take a position against your own country and are willing to believe the most blatant lies of the most evil people on the planet of which the Iranian regime is a member.
There is something fundamentally wrong with your brain wiring.
I think it’s nearly time to sink the Iranian navy, again.
[...] » Pentagon Releases Video of Iranian Boats Confronting US Warships from http://www.breitbart.tv posted with [...]
The time required to close the distance, between the small boats and the naval ships,can be measured in seconds. I served in the Arabian Gulf when oil tankers and other commercial ships were being attacked by the Iranians. The Iranian Revolutionary Guards are playing a foolish game and they stand to lose the most.
I swear, everyone on this forum is an inbred deluded nutjob.
should have shot them up, then air-dropped half the debris on tehran,the other half on the “truther” shills/useful idiots for the jihadis.
Keep it up nutroots, if the jihadi scum get and use a bomb here, you WILL wind up in gitmo.
Yesterday’s
“i don’t believe it happened” posts are now today’s “i don’t believe it happened despite the video i just saw” posts.
Should have blown those biotches outa the water…with Alice D, Michelle A & Eric!
“Bob, your a stupid deluded retarded fool, and you’re starting to make my urine boil. Inbred idoit. Gosh!”
So desperate… :D
It was a plot by Cheney to get more money for Halliburton! It was all faked, just like the moon landing! Cheney is trying to blame the innocent, peace loving Iranians for this incident and use it as an excuse to go to war so that his pals at Halliburton can profit more before he leaves office! Iran is innocent of everything!!!
/Sarcasm
/Sound familiar?
/Lots of whack-o left-wing conspiracy kooks out there.
Oooh scary; a couple speedboats with no obvious weaponry vs. the jewnited state’s warships.
“you keep your hands off my right to disagree and hold unpopular views, and I promise not to vigorously defend same rights in any fashion I need to when you try to exclude me from the expression of them.”
More lies and exaggeration. I’ve never told any of you retards to shut up, I’ve encouraged you to spew your nonsense. I use my own name. :D
Let me make it clear, even for a mental midget like you:
By all means, disagree.
By all means, believe retarded conspiracy theory.
Don’t piss on my boots and try to tell me it’s raining though.
Clear?
“Re: #2 So if I’m beating a child to death, you walk by and see me doing it, then I kill you for witnessing it – then I appologize in court for killing YOU, I can go free?”
You not too bright, even for a retard. There’s a difference between a crime and military incident but your hate Jews retardation has you blinded or you’re just not smart enough to get it.
You’re worthless, like Ron “the anti-Semite” Paul.
“Zog, you’re a delude inbred idiot. This is coming from an establish War Veteran, we should attack Iran now, build permanent bases, take there oil, and give them our freedom. IDIOT!”
Seriously, you’re going to have to do better than that. I know you want to be like me but you’re not bright enough…
The Commie-Lib defeatists are so blind that they are unable to see anything other than American blame. Their solution is to cast a blind eye to the evil in the world much like some did in the 2oth century with Germany. While Jews were being exterminated, the very same defeatists and wimps were wringing their hands in denial.
FACT: Iran is a threat!
Now, your just an ass hole
Once again, mental midgets prove me right…
Ron “cut and run” Paul has no chance or winning no matter how often you fake posts….
Pull your heads out kids…
Screwtape has done wonders in making certain that many people do not recognize him as evil incarnate. His whole purpose is to blind people from seeing him as a potent threat therefore negating himself in the eyes of humans. A little red guy with a pitchfork and tail is very hard to believe in now isn’t he? You people are so easily duped. ROFLMAO
Whoever runs this site is an inbred deluded idiot! Comon! Can’t you inbreds even get the order right! Gosh!
Shane…Why does the Strait of Hormuz need our patroling?? Seriously?? One of the jobs of the US Navy is to maintain and allow the flow of international trade in international waters around the world. In that area, the flow of international trade is oil and actually, very little comes to the US (around 17%). The vast majority of oil goes to other countries (Japan, Australia, Europe, etc.) and this flow of oil is vital tward global economic stability. So, we are in the Middle East to help maintain global economic stability and islamic terrorism in general and Iran specificly(sp?) are things which put global economic security at risk. this is not just a fight between U S & radical islam but between the civilised world & radical islam. The only problem is that alot of the civilised world does not want to admit they are at risk from terrorists or they will not be affected by terorists actions *or* if they please the terrorists, the problem will go away (HA!!!). I, personally, don’t want to be a Muslim & I don’t want to have to die just because of that choice so I support the fight against terrorists & everything that involves…and you should to.
The Imposter, Bush, displays his impotence again.
Score…IRAN: 1 / US NAVY: 0
Re: USS COLE http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html
Did this happen? Yes.
Was it a provocative act? According to the men and women on the ships it was and I will trust their experience and wisdom over people theorizing over the internet any day.
My problem is when Bush & Co. now use this in a political context to try to validate their past and present diplomatic behavior towards Iran. For chrissakes open a dialog you dimwit! The level of hostility and the nearsightedness of this Administrations outlook towards the Middle East is aggravating and infuriating.
And can you blame many moderate Americans for not believing this is true when we as a country have been burned by deception and subterfuge for 7 years straight? Calling them American haters is childish, all of you need to grow up.
“LoL”
Oh, you’re a kid. I should have known.
“Damn, I’m glad you fought for your freedom to tell me my freedoms.”
Just as you have right to be a POS and spew your idiocy, he has a right to suggest you leave since you’re a retard. Right?
“Hi everybody just wanted to apologize for my rude and dismissive posts. You see I just read the US Constitution and now I realize, EVERYBODY has the right to free speeh, go figure……”
“USNavyMan – You were never in the NAVY you lieing inbred idiot! Stop lieing! You can tell your just some stupid kid, trying to impress everyone here! You deluded inbred moron!”
“Will the real SOCAL stand up please? Viet Nam in ‘77? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH freakin LOLOLOL”
It’s not rocket science… ;)
“Why don’t you go live in commie China then! ”
Because he’s free to be a POS and badmouth America here. :)
Sorry, I slipped in that last post, I know I have something positive and constructive to say…hhhmmmm maybe not
“Sorry, I slipped in that last post, I know I have something positive and constructive to say…hhhmmmm maybe not”
So desperate…
All people here with any common sense? Disregard anything SKD or the fake SOCAL and other demented types here have to offer. They are officially on my ignore list since they have no meaning in life and pose no threat to any of us here. On with the ignoring and on with the intellectual postings as opposed to the torturous blandings they type. Screwtape (CS Lewis’ reknowned demon) BTW is having a hey-day with these people…he always wanted us humans to NOT believe evil existed. For the aformentioned dipsh—s the bad guy has won.
“SoCal is a patriot like I’m a Elbonian fighter pilot.”
I don’t need your approval kid, I know who I am. :D
Really, this retardation says much more about you mental midgets than me…
“They are officially on my ignore list since they have no meaning in life and pose no threat to any of us here.”
That’s what they want. That’s how anti-American worthless piles try to shut up people that are better than them. I have a lot of patience, it’s fun to slap them around and their own words give them away… :D
“nice to know the military is being run by panzies!!”
Some whine when we fight, some whine when we don’t…
These kids today…
DANG!!! I am sooooo sorry to all of you for being such an idiot in my rantings here…..I was, minutes ago struck by lightning and have seen how stupid I have been all along. I am renouncing all things liberal, all things democrat and all things socialist. I have realized how dumb I have sounded here so I will go off into a room and shoot myself to preserve the sanctity of this forum. May God save my soul.
Easy for me to say, but the Americans should have sent those clowns to heaven. After the attack of the USS Cole you really have to wonder how dumb can they get? I predict the Iranians will try another dumb trick fairly soon, and next time it won’t end so civilly.
Hey, does anyone know if the Cheesy Gordita Crunch is still at taco bell?
Also, why did BK discontinue the Whopper? Thanks.
These boats should have been destroyed long before they got this close.
Glad to see so many patriots commenting here.
It’s refreshing to see that not everyone on the internet is lost in the land of “make believe” with Ron Paul and the loony left.
Affairs, events, happenings and incidents in Southwest Asia might seem slight but given the history of inter-tribal hatreds, Muslim sectarian animosity among Arab Muslims and Persian (Iranian) Muslims even a slight spark can ignite a regional conflagration that carries worldwide implications.
The region’s oil and other critical natural resources — which are vital to all industrialized economies — must travel through the very narrow Straits of Hormuz; which has long been viewed as the most dangerous sea lane choke point on the planet. What happens in that small body of water is important to just about everyone, everywhere in the world.
From an Organization Effectiveness viewpoint, the Imam-led government in Tehran can only be classified as a ‘psychotic organization,’ and those within the power structure are likely individually and collectively deranged to one degree or another. Such derangement, per force, causes the group members to act irrationally…that’s not to say the organization cannot be thorough and organized in its functions, rather it means the organization’s goals are developed from an incorrect start-point based on incorrect assumptions and no matter how effectively they execute their goal-oriented plan, they will naturally end up at the wrong place. Irrational, dangerous behaviors seem ‘normal’ to members of the organization.
The speed boat incident is typical of the dangerously irrational behaviors this psychotic organization. There is no negotiating with such an organization because its leaders are incapable understanding or accommodating viewpoints outside of their deranged frame of reference.
Make no mistake about it, the Imam-led government in Tehran is dangerous, irrational and capable of igniting a regional war that will cause widespread hardship and chaos in nearly every corner of the world.
The US Navy commanders and their very professional crews showed tremendous restraint and maturity in the way they dealt with a volatile and dangerous situation.
AMAZING testimony from one of our soldiers in Iraq. EVERYONE who supports Hucksterbee MUST watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM
Sorry about that!
Liberal cowards. They’re like a bunch of chirping birds in their nest waiting for the government and democrats to come feed them. Give them some “free” health care and then maybe Hillary and Barak could come to their house and wipe their #sses for them too.
From such pathetic socialist losers it’s no surprise they refuse to show respect for the sacrifices our military people make.
The Truth is, if you have two brain cells to rub toether, this is a HOAX.
Buy it at your peril.
I’m outta here.
“More warmongering from Bush and his cronies.
The only people who support them are cowards who haven’t even served a second in the Military.”
You’re an idiot. I’m a disabled vet and you’re a dishonest POS. Anti-war morons are all the same.
Welcome to reality kid…
As a retired military combat veteran (2-tours in Vietnam) you left-leaning liberals who support these crazy suicidal bastards just amaze me. Why don’t you go over there and live with the terriosts and support the kook suicide bombrers — as did Marin County John Lindhe, who is now in prison? Liberal Democrat war/enemy appeasers. Leave MY country and go hug those suicidal bastards. If you don’t have the air fare, move to San Francisco where you will fit in with the crowd — smoke all the dope you want,and your old ass might even get a hardon and you can screw some old gray-haired hippy chick.
Bush haters. I don’t feel really happy about all of the money he has spent on social programs, and I think the war has been a bit prolonged, but WE ARE AT WAR! Most people like you don’t realslize that fact.
Get a life, you un-American,Liberal loser!!!!
We are not Left, Right, North, or South, neither are you. We are Truth. You are Lies.
Now you know and knowing is half the battle kiddies.
ExMarine,
That makes a lot of sense…(not) You obviously are not a Marine. Maybe a marine life form…Squid? Marines tend to support their Commander in Chief as well as the rest of the military. Nice try, now be a nice lib and go back in the driveway and take another hit off your Volvo’s tailpipe….that’s right. Feel better?
Blow them out of the water and bomb the hell out of IRAN!!!! And all you pro terrorist dog humpers need to leave the u.s and join your brothers in the middle east and wipe your ass after a dump with your bare hand……GO BUSH!!!!!!
Wow
Lotta intellectual heavyweights up in here.
SoCal and jColes are the only ones making sense.
If this was a US conspiracy, one of our boats would be at the bottom of the ocean. THATS how you get isht to pop off.
Word to your mother.
Not reading the whole thread, just going by the first few posts –
I guess you chuckle heads forgot about the USS Cole?
Also, about “white boxes”… The little clip was what, 2 maybe 3 minutes? The whole thing was reported to have lasted about 30 minutes.
And let’s not forget the mindset of blowing up one’s self to take out a few Americans.
DARN! My Internet Explorer crashed, and I had to reset my AOL dial-up connection.
“You idiot, don’t you know that I’m a disabled War VET YOU MORON! Dont you know I was in the army or something! I served in Vietnam in 1977!”
What’s so damn funny? IDIOT! You know how many gookies I took out in the war? PLENTY! And don’t even get me started on those Khmer Rogues, thieving PUNKS!
Everyone know I’m the only REAL Vet here! Inbred idiots! If it wasn’t for me, I’d be the only one that cared what I thought!
OMG we are all doomed. America is doomed
I really had no idea that this many America hating idiots existed in the world, let alone our own country
I can’t get it to play…anyone else having problems?
John, My ideas advocate mass murder. What do islamists’ ideas advocate….? Mass Murder?
Or is it something else. Something more aligned to liberating the oppressed muslim race….?
Looks like a good boat to ski behind..Well balanced in the turns.Next time shoot the scum and let our guys use the boats for recreation!!!
The New Repuplic is owned by the government as is all the other media. Sorry, not buying the governments lies. That’s all they know!
My plan is working,loonie left, goofie right, jew haters, Bush haters, all blindly going at it. Will two and two ever be four again? Go Seahawks!
I think it’s very ambitious to think of a bunch of Baja’s as a navy fleet. Then I am reminded that the USS Cole was destroyed by a Zodiac. An inflatable the size of a small bass boat. These guys were very close to the ships and if not outright threatening them then they were incredibly foolish.
I can’t understand the posts on this site. Why is our country so divided? It’s pretty black and white to me. We are at war with a group of religious extremists that think that anyone who doesn’t believe in their religion is an infidel and deserves to die in the most horrific ways possible. They on the other hand feel no sense of apprehension about dying and going to paradise. Rational thinking does not work with this midset. It is a war to the end and if we are going to win we have to get tough. Kill em all let Allah sort them out.
My grandparents grew up in the 60’s and really messed this country up. Until we get the flower children in Washington to get tough and stop trying to find another Vietnam we are in trouble. My generation is going to be in serious trouble unless you “adults” grow a set.
“Also keep in mind that Iran’s speed boats are 30 to 40 feet long, and are more like Oild WWII PT Boats, they are not Blue. The carry more then two sailors. Iran has a fleet of these.
These blue boats are maybe 12 – 15 feet long.
Meanwhile, Bush is on the way out, and Iran was cleared by the US of having nukes. So out of the clear BLUE they decide to swarm, with speed boats the most powerful Navy in the world.
Sureeeeee!!!!!”
It’s simple Tim. Idiots are LEGION. Look at our education compared to the worlds. We are almost the last, yet we are the most prosperous. Hmm, why do you think this is so?
“Also keep in mind that Iran’s speed boats are 30 to 40 feet long, and are more like Oild WWII PT Boats, they are not Blue. The carry more then two sailors. Iran has a fleet of these.
These blue boats are maybe 12 – 15 feet long.
Meanwhile, Bush is on the way out, and Iran was cleared by the US of having nukes. So out of the clear BLUE they decide to swarm, with speed boats the most powerful Navy in the world.
Sureeeeee!!!!!”
It’s simple Tim. Idiots are LEGION. Look at our education compared to the worlds. We are almost the last, yet we are the most prosperous. Hmm, why do you think this is so?
Well I guess the liberal punks have finally made the enemy not afraid of us anymore! Way to go democrats!
‘Also keep in mind that Iran’s speed boats are 30 to 40 feet long, and are more like Oild WWII PT Boats, they are not Blue. The carry more then two sailors. Iran has a fleet of these.
These blue boats are maybe 12 – 15 feet long.
Meanwhile, Bush is on the way out, and Iran was cleared by the US of having nukes. So out of the clear BLUE they decide to swarm, with speed boats the most powerful Navy in the world.
Sureeeeee!!!!!’
It’s simple Tim. Idiots are LEGION. Look at our education compared to the world’s. We are almost the last, yet we are the most prosperous. Hmm, why do you think this is so?
“…all future incidents like this should require the Islamic scum to be fired upon and sunk.”
You and Ron “the racist” Paul would get along fine:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“no wonder McCain won NH.”
McCain won NH in 2000 too, then he got spanked in the rest of the country. Don’t get worked up about NH, Nader got 2nd in NH and Buchanan won once. NH doesn’t mean much but they are rejecting Rudy and Ron “cut and run” Paul…
Anyone who does not believe that we are at war with Islamic Fanatics will be the first ones beheaded. The idea of sharia law being implemented world wide is a fear everyone should have. This is war, people die in war, either you are for freedom or you are in the sights of the enemy or working for them. Support our troops , kill a terrorist.
I like how SoCal is deleting all the posts that he doesn’t like. I think I’ve got about a dozen missing now. Truth cannot be told people!
The NeoCons are traitors and all of your heads will roll.
Hey, can we all answer some serious questions here? Is the Cheesy Gordita Crunch still at Taco Bell.
If it is, i may make a fourth meal tonight. Thanks.
“I like how SoCal is deleting all the posts that he doesn’t like. I think I’ve got about a dozen missing now. Truth cannot be told people!
The NeoCons are traitors and all of your heads will roll.”
I liek how inbred deluded fools try to blame me when the moderation system automatically flags post. I have nothing to do with it but they can’t comprehend that it’s them.
BTW: I have posts “awaiting moderation” too, idiot.
See what I mean? They keep proving me right about them…
“All the little kiddies complaining about warmongering on behalf of the US were still playing in the sandbox when the USS Cole was attacked.”
True, that. I had to bring up the embassy incident with Iran, nobody else seems to remember it. They like the “death to America” stuff because that’s the kind of scum they are.
Under International Law those US vessels had every right to engage those boats with deadly force. What the Iranians did is the equivalent of painting an aircraft with a SAM tracking radar. It is an act of war. Stupid behavior.
It is no different than a person pointing a loaded gun at you. At that point the right to defend yourself is never denied.
Unfortunately those who have been shot at understand this principle. The restraint showed by ur ships was remarkable, and probably stupid. If it happens again we should blow them away.
the strategy is that the enemy wants us to shoot at them, so we look like murders.nice try.telaban get no new recruits today.
The Navy let them get way too close. At a minimum, warning shots should have been fired at that range, since the boats could have been packed with unseen explosives. This is no game.
Most of these comments are a waste of bandwidth
“One, lol, hahahah, well If I had one boat mounted with a machine gun, I would, I guess approach the US 5th fleet too.”
I know you must be allergic to reality but you’ve been told already that one small rubber boat (with no mounted machine guns) is what they used against the USS Cole. You’re an idiot.
“I wonder if you get paid, for this.”
Again, a serious lack of reality deluded with conspiracy theory. Thank you for proving me right.
“You will receive no more replies clown.”
Cut and run cowards are all the same…
“You are a classic case of an over-drugged idiot”
Another case of projection. :D
Good luck with your inbred delusions…
Matt Royal–what you’re reading isn’t “hatred of America” but peoples’ weariness at certain types in the U.S. seeming to want war with half the world. They justify wars on the shakiest of pretexts. They don’t necessarily tell total lies but half-truths. It’s hard to believe anybody anymore.
“what you’re reading isn’t “hatred of America†but peoples’ weariness at certain types in the U.S. seeming to want war with half the world. They justify wars on the shakiest of pretexts.”
That still says a lot about how you feel about America whether you see it or not. Whatever helps you sleep at night. We’ve already proven that what you think is not based on reality but upon deluded conspiracy theory and anti-war ignorance.
Good luck with that…
Look at the moonbats on here. I cannot believe the US ships did not open fire. That was some gutsy restraint.
Unbelieveable, google operation “Preying Mantis” back when I was sailing the “Straits” we didn’t put up with that kind of BS. My question is why did they let them get so close, back then we would have used the “Fly Swatter”, nothing like a little VT Frag to swat some flies.
Hey Ratty—I’ll bet you’ve done your share of operating some other guy’s soda lever. Come on, admit it, those big guns on Navy ships really excite you, too.
AIM FIRE!!!!!!!!!!! Remember the Cole……….
It would have been hilarious is one of those Hajjis dropped out the back on a wakeboard. Did you notice the size of the wake from the destroyer? They could have caught some mad air!
The conspiracy theorist just slay me. Oh, everything is a lie, yeah yeah. If so please explain this:
If you are so convinced that GWB is so stupid and incompetent, how to reconcile that idea with your other idea that he somehow orchestrated the largest mass murder in American History w/o ANYBODY coming forward, any leaks or anything. Pretty damn good plan, execution and cover up.
(oh that’s right..it was CHENEY!!!)
You just believe what you WANT to believe. And I’ll just sit back laughing at you, shaking my head.
A liberal genius spouted his gaping maw with these comments:
“These clowns were unarmed in bright blue boats, with bright orange safe-vests on. LOL hahahah,
The Pentagon says the boats are mounted with machine guns and possibly armed with explosives. They say here we come to blow you up.
They then show a video of men, cruising in bright blue speed /fishing boats with bright orange safe jackets on. LOL, headed towards hree assets of the US 5th fleet.
I can’t do anything but laugh, this is the sorriest story I ever heard.
Only a fool takes this at face value, meanwhile Bush is on his way out of office, and America has declare recently that Iran is not making nukes. …
So, Iran decides to play with the US 5th fleet, yeah right.
Bright orange safejackets, lol wow ,..
This was a false flag. These boats wouldn’t stand a chance against a group of redneck fishermen on fish boats armed with single-shot bolt action rifles.
But instead, the Pentagon, would have you believe here, that a fleet lol, of five clowns heavily ARMED ONLY with bright orange safejackets approached the world most powerful Navy, in bright blue boats screaming we will explode your ships.
Whats worse is in the video, the blue speed boats are allowed to circle all the way around the USS Port Royal within 200, try 140 feet behind the USS Port Royal.”
I guess you forget the Cole and what a little boat did to it. These Iranians were simply provoking our navy while testing it’s response routine. You have got to be pretty stupid to run up on US Navy warships like this, or crazy. Personally speaking if I were the CO on any of these ships then these little guys would be fish food. You risk my life with your provocative actions then you risk yours, Period. It’s attitudes like yours that feed their ambitions, genius! These are military vessels in international waters, moron.
Tim John….
In case you missed it, IRAN SAID IT HAPPENED… What was your theory again?
From the same AP story:
“The audio and video recordings were made separately, and initially covered much of the more than 20 minute confrontation, but were pulled together and combined by the Navy, the officials said.”
20 minutes, we only saw small part of what happened but mental midgets are already claiming conspiracy theory.
“Senior Revolutionary Guards commander Ali Reza Tangsiri said Iran had the right to ask any ships to identify themselves upon entering or leaving the Persian Gulf.
“It is a basic responsibility of patrolling units of the Revolutionary Guards to take necessary interception measures toward any vessels entering into the waters of the Persian Gulf,” Tangsiri said, according to the Mehr news agency.”
I bet the inbred morons think President Bush personally faked the video and audio. They’re just not rational…
These stupid kids today…
What did the boat that blew up the USS Cole look like?
SoCal wraps himself in a flag all right – an Israeli one. He is always ready for sending Americans to die for Israel.
I cant believe that the Left in this country trust the words of evil dictators more that actual video(own ears & eyes) The greatest threat to this country might be the deaf mute Liberals. You hear the words and then alarms go off as they approach. The shios sailed straight as the speedboats ran circles. But somehow Iran is telling the truth?? You cant be that stupid…can you?
These clowns in these blue speed boats would have been defeated by a group of people like SoCal, on a fish boat, armed with single-shot bolt action rifles.
This was so lame, no one in their right mind thinks that this was real event, that the Iranians sent a fleet of clowns on bright blue boats with bright orange safejackets to attack three assets of the US 5th fleet.
Me and my friends could go out and produce a better video then this using CG technology.
OK, so the CIA stole 5 Iranian speed boats from the Iranian Navy OR they ferried over 5 similar boats from the US and launched them nearby from the coast of Iran or UAE, with no witnesses, and proceeded to “spread fear” by driving near US warships?
is that about it?
“I’ve got it”
You’re done, like Ron “the racist” Paul. ;)
Conspiracy Theory Exposed:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
“Fire!”…
I see the “Truffers” are now invading the message board. I suppose you think Bush was driving one of the boats? Bunch of dumbasses.
Launch one from Montana!!
Said Bush: “My message today to the Iranians is they shouldn’t have done what they did.”
“It is a dangerous situation,” he said in a White House news conference. “They should not have done it, pure and simple. . . . I don’t know what their thinking was, but I’m telling you what my thinking was. I think it was a provocative act.”
“The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a U.S. Navy intelligence ship, USS Liberty, in international waters about 12.5 nautical miles (23 km) from the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, north of El Arish, by Israeli fighter planes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967.
It occurred during the Six-Day War, a conflict between Israel and the Arab states of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The Israeli attack killed 34 U.S. servicemen and wounded at least 173. The attack was the second deadliest against a U.S. Naval vessel since the end of World War II, surpassed only by the Iraqi Exocet missile attack on the USS Stark on May 17, 1987, and marked the single greatest loss of life by the U.S. Intelligence Community.”
Act of War? Provocative?
“Cosgriff objected to Iranian attempts to downplay the incident.
“I hope from this lesson they realize that we are concerned by small, high-speed vessels,” said Cosgriff. I hope they understand we will take those actions we deem appropriate to defend our ships and our sailors.”
Riad Kahwaji, a Dubai-based analyst with the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, said Iran may have been seeking to send a “political message” to Arab Gulf states to highlight the dangers of military confrontation.
“When somebody gets so close to a big ship then he’s very likely asking for trouble or trying to provoke something,” he said. “Opening fire means sparking a war … Does anyone really want to take that risk?”
Good old DOUBLE STANDARD.
Jews can do whatever they want.
Don’t worry…
“I see the “Truffers†are now invading the message board. I suppose you think Bush was driving one of the boats? Bunch of dumbasses.”
What do you expect from mental midget, conspiracy theory nutjobs? ;)
Vote for 9iu1ian1, OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!
Are you freakin crazy! This is an attack on our national sovereignty and we need to respond!
If Rudy or McCain were president, we’d already be in there taking their damn oil, and defending our freedoms.
this just in
A FISA court has overturned the wiretap of the Iranian Minister of Information, disallowing it’s use in this propaganda effort/military op
NY Times lead story Wednesday : US, Bush Cheating to Win War
And inside the white boxes:
The Iranians were simply trying to return the yellow cake that we gave them. They got enough from the Syrians
Such nice people that Iranian Navy
Hard to get much from the footage shown above. Hopefully they’ll release more of the video, along with some of the audio recordings.
Alice D, Michelle A, and Eric show us why its a crime to let the congenitally stupid continue to steal oxygen from the atmosphere…
Mark:
“Hard to get much from the footage shown above. Hopefully they’ll release more of the video, along with some of the audio recordings.”
The conspiracy theory retards will just claim the audio or translation is a fake. You can’t reason with inbred deluded fools.
“We are American citizen, in America, a would be shot down dead like a pack of rabbit dogs in the streets for something that simple.”
Are you sure? We don’t have “rabbit dogs” in America, moron. I don’t think you’re honest nor intelligent. :D
stupid douche… next thing your gonna say is the Gulf of Tonkin was faked. Loser!
We have been at war with these people since the early 90’s (if not the late 80’s). Wishing it wern’t so won’t make any difference. Of course they were threatening us. That’s what combatants do. If you all need any other further clarity, just aske me. It’s my job.
“stupid douche… next thing your gonna say is the Gulf of Tonkin was faked. Loser!”
Typical, the inbred retard uses my name and calls other people a loser. pot/kettle/black :D
This is why nobody takes conspiracy theory nutjobs seriously, they’re all idiots.
“And inside the white boxes:”
“We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels – We have driven them back.”
I swear I can just replace anything you say with a quote and it sounds the same…
So funny…
I can not belive why the Captain of this ship would put his men and ship in danger by letting these fools get so close????? He should of fired on them
for such a dangerous act.
The Cole was taken out by a rubber dingy,
this upsets my gut.
“I can not belive why the Captain of this ship would put his men and ship in danger by letting these fools get so close????? He should of fired on them
for such a dangerous act.”
Next time they try that, it may be different.
If TR were president all of those boats would have been blown out of the water real quick. Then possibly a cruise missile or two launched at Tehran just to make sure those bums got the message.
Where’s Lt Stephen Decatur now that we need him?
It’s predictable that the “hate America first” crowd will bash anything remotely provocative as something the President dreamed up.
As a 31-year military veteran, I know a hostile act when I see one and, although I’m not a Navy vet, I understand that an Aegis-Class destroyer is a near to a “Capital Ship” as anything that floats gets. You do it harm and it’s an act of war, plane and simple. You attempt to do it harm and you will likely end up dead.
There are accepted rules of conduct by vessels (air and water) of all Navys and Air Forces. The actions of these boats seemed to me to be reckless and provocative. The occupants of those boats are fortunate that they are not presently in the arms of their promised 72 virgins. If that’s what they want we’ll be glad to accomodate them.
As a former Navy officer and Officer-In-Charge of a smaller patrol craft in combat conditions, I would consider the Iranian actions extremely hostile. As I was responsible for my crew and craft, I would have opened fire as they closed to less than 500 yards. The range of one of the oldest weapons used by modern armies/navies, the venerable .50 calibre machine gun, is 7000 yards. Nuff said?
Nuke Mecca and all this garbage stops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob, your a stupid deluded retarded fool, and you’re starting to make my urine boil. Inbred idoit. Gosh!
“I swear, anybody who uses this forum is an inbred deluded fool.”
“I swear, everyone on this forum is an inbred deluded nutjob.”
This kid is stupid but even an inbred POS like him must understand that people know the difference in your posts and mine. They all know that any name can be used by anyone. You’re only fooling yourself and proving me right about morons like you.
So funny… :D
KIDS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU GRAMPA,
WE CAN PRETEND TO BE YOU IF WE WANT AND YOU CANT STOP US HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!11 L0S3R!!!!!111
SoCal Patriot rules! Right on.
“KIDS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU GRAMPA,
WE CAN PRETEND TO BE YOU IF WE WANT AND YOU CANT STOP US HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!11 L0S3R!!!!!111″
Thank you, once again, for proving me right. :D
These kids today…
Damn, I was thinking about Gulf of Tonkin until somebody else beat me to it. Except I was serious.
A. Allowing terrorists in racing boats taunt us like the USS Cole? 200 lives.
B. Doubting everything your government says during a war, even when there’s VIDEO??? Priceless.
The only thing that needs more explanation is why those boats weren’t sunk.
“SoCal Patriot rules! Right on.”
It’s not so much that I “rule” it’s just that the childish, inbred, conspiracy theory nutjobs are that stupid and easy to manipulate. ;)
Dance puppets dance…
I wonder if they could have hit them with this :
or this
juandos: Any particular reason why you think the Jews should get away with attacking out Navy ship and killing 37 men – and get away with it. While Iranian simply have to “be too close” and get an uproar?
If you dare say that it is NOT a double-standard, then show it.
Let me guess: You are one of those Isreal guys from the kiosks at the Malls who pretend they are offering important skills by selling lotions and toys to the USA so they can be here LEGALLY – while at the same time having DUAL citizenship – which is againt our constitution – simply because you are a Jew? Am I right?
you freekin libs suck! you’re just like the iranians… all talk and no action – cowards. good thing thing for you the military stands for your freedom also!
“Damn, I was thinking about Gulf of Tonkin until somebody else beat me to it. Except I was serious.”
Now we know who it was. Go figure, Ron “the racist” Paul supporters…
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
Try defending the POS, prove me right. :D
To make it simple, anytime a small vessel gets close to a large vessel that is a provocative act. The large vessel cannot make the necessary movements to get away, because why, it cannot, it is too large. So in summary that is why it is a big deal when a vessel that is named as unknown or labeled as the enemy will be destroyed especially if it comes too close, actually the naval showed restraint. Now lets play what if, what if the Iranian vessel gets close enough to detonate a explosive device and kills 100s of sailors? That would be very bad and lead to a war of a very large scale and $200 plus barrel oil. So no more Jew, Bush hate crap and get you head out of the sand.
“So no more Jew, Bush hate crap and get you head out of the sand.”
Sand? That’s not where these mental midgets keep their heads… :D
Hey Alice D!
Using a 40 year old incident to bring in antisemitism (aka racism). Very Nice! But I thought the lefties were supposed to be the tolerant ones?
Gee I’m so confused. (OK, not really.)
Ah, how soon people forget what happened to the USS Cole and stupidly believe this was either harmless or staged by our government.
You Ron Paul types think that if we just leave the Middle East the Islamo-Nazi’s would play nice like Mr Rogers and that another attack similar to 911 won’t happen again when we do leave. I have some news for you, it ain’t gonna happen. It may be 5, 10 or 20 years before they try to take us out again, but guess what, they will have at it again when we have been lulled into a false sense of security by your songs of Kumbia.
Nice try with the Gulf of Tonkin comparison.
I have a question or two for SO-CALLED PATRIOT.
Is Iran really equiped to threaten our sovereignty? Be serious.
Do we really need to worry about a weak military power taking away our freedom more than our own government that has already taken away rights and freedoms and are trying to take away more?
Giuliani and McCain are much bigger threats to America than any middle east country.
I am starting to think that the freedoms that we, meaning myself and all other vets have brought to the table are NOT for the dumbasses that call America into question from the get go. I am from now on—excluding their rights on an broad basis and the children that are screeding here are the first on the list. MORONS all of you. I suggest you screeders get a life AND an education since you obviously have flunked the intellectual side of life.
Too bad they didn’t fire the Phalanx guns – it would have left nothing behind but shark food.
AMERICA AND THE WORLD NEED THE BEAUTIFUL COULTER PLAN FOR MIDDLE EAST STABILITY!!!!:
http://americaphile.blogspot.com/2007/04/vision-for-iran.html
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!!!
PLEASE, MR. PRESIDENT, ACT TODAY!!!!!!
Ron Paul Sucks: So, if 100’s of sailors die, it is an act of war?
So would you like to answer the question juandos cannot?:
How is it that Isreal can attack a Navy ship and kill dozens of men, and get away with it scott free, in a hush-hush manner. Yet Iranian boats “get too close” and have such uproar?
Do you think it is a double-standard? If not, why?
I would like to know how much it costs to fire that for 10 seconds…
Just cause I’m an attention whore, doesn’t mean I’m an idiot you freaking inbred MORON! If Bush had any balls he’d go into Iran. TODAY! Inbred idoits!!!
Just cause I’m a TROLL, doesn’t mean I’m an idiot you freaking inbred MORON! If Bush had any balls he’d go into Iran. TODAY! Inbred deluded idiots!!!
FEED ME! FEED ME NOW!!!
That’s right, SoCal, it’s really just me and you on this entire site on every thread. You go on and on about conspiracy theorists but see everybody as an impostor or not being honest about their views. There are millions of people who don’t think like soem ‘tormented patriots’. I know that’s hard to believe….I’m everywhere, SoCalParanoid.
BTW, I never said once that I would vote for Ron Paul, but the so called shocking information that came out is a tempest in teapot. He has a right to his views and a right to express them, whether they are popular or not. I couldn’t care less what he thinks about MLK. I don’t give a damn about whether MLK’s fabled myth of a reputation is questioned.
ERICH? You have proven to be insipidly stupid in your posts. Nazi Germany (Iran was an ally of theirs Mr. History buff) couldn’t threaten us either by your illogic. AND IF you have proof that our gov’t has taken away freedoms..stop throwing dumbass bombs and show your hand. PROVE it dipshit. Oh that’s right you CAN’T prove it-it’s all smoke and mirrors for you. I am now certain our education system has utterly failed Erich and the children here.
“Ah, how soon people forget what happened to the USS Cole and stupidly believe this was either harmless or staged by our government.”
Or forget why we don’t have an embassy in Tehran anymore. Nobody ever claimed they were intelligent.
“Is Iran really equiped to threaten our sovereignty? Be serious.”
Sovereignty? No.
Security, yes.
“Do we really need to worry about a weak military power taking away our freedom more than our own government that has already taken away rights and freedoms and are trying to take away more?”
Freedom, no.
Lives, yes. They’d lose a war against us but that doesn’t mean they’re not responsible for American deaths.
“Giuliani and McCain are much bigger threats to America than any middle east country.”
Funny how some inbred POS that was using my name mentioned those two too. This is why Ron “cut and run” Paul has zero chance of the nomination and why his supporters are all fools. They don’t understand the threats.
Thanks for proving me right again…
5 Cent: I guess you want me to act like the rest of the goy and “just forget it?” Come on, does it matter how long ago it happened? It still happened, yes?
Also, I bet if I was a Jew whining about the “Holocaust” you wouldn’t say: “Using a [40] year old incident…?” You’ve been caught with your double-standard showing, buddy. Next time THINK about what you say.
Why does the Strait of Hormuz need our patroling? Our policing? Seriously, this is an excellent example to the vagueness of WHO the enemy is. If all one has to do is speed around the Strait of Hormuz, or make the Navy nervous, or speak some hostile Iranian, we will all be in trouble and suspect. What determines the actions of those in the boats to be acting FOR Iran? The fact that they speak Iranian?
I am not for warfare against anyone or anything who simply dislikes us. “Because Bush said” isnt good enough.
You want to scoff at “truffers” or the like, then present FACTS and EVIDENCE for such claims. Your “side” does nothing but give ammunition to those claims when you present this kind of “proof”.
Almost the identical incident occurred in the early 80’s when a fast frigate, USS Cook (FF-1083) was transiting the Strait. We fired several “warning shots” over one of the small boats’ bow and they ran. They were also broadcasting on our unsecure frequencies uttering obscenities about our mothers and sisters back in the states. On one level, it was comical, but trust me, this most recent incident was a VERY dangerous situation as it was over 20 years ago.
Deluded Inbred MORON! Thiers not enough room on these boards for TWO TROLLS! Idiot!
“You go on and on about conspiracy theorists but see everybody as an impostor..”
More exaggeration from a POS… The difference is, it’s clear my name was being used by retarded Ron “cut and run” Paul supporters, like you. It’s not much of a stretch because that’s like you based on your other posts. I don;t care who it was, I don;t even care that mental midgets try, it just proves me right about retards, like you.
These kids today…
Alice D – I’ll give you this, at least your intolerant bigoted speech is consistent.
#1 40 years ago
#2 Isreal apologized – it was a tragic mistake
#3 the USS Liberty was a spy ship with few weapons and it was alone. – something which doesn’t happen so much today.
#4 and no – we didn’t go to war with Isreal because they were our allies – see my next point.
#4a Germany didn’t go to war with us when that US fighter accidentally killed those folks on a ski lift and that was just 5 or so years ago… as it was an accident
#5 Isreal had made no overtures to kill americans – Iran makes such overtures almost daily. Should we ignore the threat of these boats simply because of a 40 year old error?
#6 would this matter to a moonbat?
Tell you what, Anti-Screed, you keep your hands off my right to disagree and hold unpopular views, and I promise not to vigorously defend same rights in any fashion I need to when you try to exclude me from the expression of them. Clear?
“Deluded Inbred MORON! Thiers not enough room on these boards for TWO TROLLS! Idiot!”
Yet another case of pot/kettle/black.
Thanks for proving me right, it makes it easier for me…
OK Sorry I am using foul language because WE have been fouled—-ERICH? You have proven to be insipidly stupid in your posts. Nazi Germany (Iran was an ally of theirs Mr. History buff) couldn’t threaten us either by your illogic. AND IF you have proof that our gov’t has taken away freedoms..stop throwing Anti-American bombs and show your hand. PROVE it moonbat. Oh that’s right you CAN’T prove it-it’s all smoke and mirrors for you. I am now certain our education system has utterly failed Erich and the children here.
Don’t worry everyone…once Obama gets elected, he’ll make nice with everyone and all countries will love us again. Barf. We all know that when Clinton made nice with everyone, the WTC was bombed, the USS Cole was bombed, the Khobar towers were bombed in 1996 and three embassies in South Africa were bombed. And that was when everyone “liked” us…..except the terrorists.
I hate BUSH. There will be no peace with IRAN while the DICK BUSHES are around. His approval numbers are in the teens; no wonder the Iranians boats are making fun of our country. Let him teach his boys to torture more and everything will be ok.
People are now using the term ‘Ron ‘cut and run’ Paul’?? WOW! Paul must REALLY be scaring the Republican establishment if he, a fellow Republican, is being labeled as ‘cut and run’. I though that form of labeling was reserved for the Democrats? I suppose you should also label Reagan as ‘cut and run’ too, because he is rolling in his grave right now. Regan would vomit at the way the neo-conservative minority has hijacked the Republican party and nearly destroyed it, and the nation, in the process. The Reagan mantra of Trust but Verify, and carry a big stick but speak softly, has been fully dismantled by the neo-conservative wackos that are unfortunately still in power.
Alice D – Unlike some on this board I do “Think”.
I never said anything about learning from the past. What I did point out is liberal forked tongues. They speak of peace and love while routinely spewing hate filled rhetoric.
As for my own double standards what does the holocaust have to do with this situation? The same as the USS Liberty. Nothing.
The next question is why are you so keen on the Liberty yet you COMPLETELY IGNORE THE COLE?
THIS VICIOUS ISLAMOFASCIST ATTACK IS AMERICA’S WAKE-UP CALL!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME TO BRING THE TRUTH TO THE ENSLAVED SOULS IN IRAN!!!!!:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1603/1603_01.asp
TIME IS RUNNING OUT BEFORE THE COMING RAPTURE AND TRIBULATION!!!!!:
“I hate BUSH. There will be no peace with IRAN while the DICK BUSHES are around. His approval numbers are in the teens; no wonder the Iranians boats are making fun of our country. Let him teach his boys to torture more and everything will be ok.”
That’s why you’re a mental midget.
“WOW! Paul must REALLY be scaring the Republican establishment if he, a fellow Republican, is being labeled as ‘cut and run’.”
Speaking of mental midgets… Ron “blame America” Paul is NOT a republican, he’s a libertarian running as a republican because the nutjob racist couldn’t get elected last time he tried, as a libertarian. He’ not a conservative either.
Here’s the POS you idolize:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
Their own words give them away…
SKD? You HAVE no rights any longer since you have given them away by trumping your own right to a so-called “opinion”. Some opinions are better than others or have you not learned the realities of life yet? I fought for you and I am realizing the fight was a total waste for certain people including you and the other non-entities here. You are worthless in your opinion, and you are invisible to me as any anti-intellectual screeder.
Re: #2 So if I’m beating a child to death, you walk by and see me doing it, then I kill you for witnessing it – then I appologize in court for killing YOU, I can go free?
Re: #3 Not sure what your point is here, but yes, we spied them slaughtering people and they got nervous we would tell on them (fat chance, since they own us) so they open fire.
Re: #4 See above remark about how they “own US.”
Re: #4a haha as if apples = oranges.
Re: #5 Isreal doesn’t make “overtures to kill americans” they just DO IT- when we don’t behave to their liking; or when they want to create a little unrest to benefit from.
Re: #6 Appearantly, it didn’t matter to you, so I guess moonbats don’t mind it so much… as for the rest of us: yeah, it matters.
The Commie-Lib defeatists are so blind that they are unable to see anything other than American blame. Their solution is to cast a blind eye to the evil in the world much like some did in the 2oth century with Germany. While Jews were being exterminated, the very same defeatists and wimps were wringing their hands in denial.
FACT: Iran is a threat!
You could clearly see Halliburton written on the sides of those boats and uh Bush lied and people died… big oil… blah blah blah… uh Cheney all make his friends rich! duh er der and besides everyone knows speedboats can’t melt steel… duh does buildings they blow up in a controlled demolition everyone knows that! uh der duh… dooby doo… more tin foil for my hat please… oh yeah Gulf of Tonka!
They should have just blasted the bastards (and they are bastards in the true meaning of the word) out of the water and played shuffleboard on the remains of their hulls.
Zog, you’re a delude inbred idiot. This is coming from an establish War Veteran, we should attack Iran now, build permanent bases, take there oil, and give them our freedom. IDIOT!
Blow those ragheads to Hell!!!
I would of given them one warning, and then I would of blow them away.
One American lfe saved is more important than than the lives of the people who threaten the lives of Americans.
Kill them – God save Americans.
If you fought in Vietnam, the first Gulf War, and now the invasion of Iraq you weren’t fighting for me or any other citizen.
Then leave traitor-boy.
“If you fought in Vietnam, the first Gulf War, and now the invasion of Iraq you weren’t fighting for me or any other citizen.”
And retards wonder why Ron “the racist” Paul is losing with no support? Pull your head out kid.
You hate america first conspiracy spinning loonies are missing a glaringly obvious point here. Iran has not denied anything the US has said about this incident. Its scary that some of you are so completely ignorant about global affairs, our enemies and an oppressive murderous regime ruled by religious zealots.
You literally have absolutely NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Shut you yap and open a damned book for christsake. The straights of Hormuz are of huge strategic importance for the whole world and the first place that hostilities would start with Iran. If you remember one thing remember those words.
You just gotta love the blame America first crowd. I have been saying for years we should nuke the place (Iran-Syria etc) and pave it. Wal-Mart parking lot anyone?
Leave the grown up work to the military and let the idiots that abuse the freedom they grant to cry about them!
I would love for them to go to Iran and decry the “government” there, can you say execution.
You make me sick!
Marmaduke
“Zog, you’re a delude inbred idiot. This is coming from an establish War Veteran, we should attack Iran now, build permanent bases, take there oil, and give them our freedom. IDIOT!â€
Seriously, you’re going to have to do better than that. I know you want to be like me but you’re not bright enough…
(reposted because SKD is an idiot…)
You idiot, don’t you know that I’m a disabled War VET YOU MORON! Dont you know I was in the army or something! I served in Vietnam in 1977! You inbred idiot! STOP SPAMMING, I’m the only troll here!
“You idiot, don’t you know that I’m a disabled War VET YOU MORON! Dont you know I was in the army or something! I served in Vietnam in 1977! You inbred idiot! STOP SPAMMING, I’m the only troll here!”
Seriously, you’re not good enough to be me…
LoL, so it’s freedom at your exception, AntiScreed? Damn, I’m glad you fought for your freedom to tell me my freedoms.
Hi everybody just wanted to apologize for my rude and dismissive posts. You see I just read the US Constitution and now I realize, EVERYBODY has the right to free speeh, go figure……
USNavyMan – You were never in the NAVY you lieing inbred idiot! Stop lieing! You can tell your just some stupid kid, trying to impress everyone here! You deluded inbred moron!
Will the real SOCAL stand up please? Viet Nam in ‘77? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH freakin LOLOLOL
SKD January 9th, 2008 – 2:26 am
If you fought in Vietnam, the first Gulf War, and now the invasion of Iraq you weren’t fighting for me or any other citizen.
===============================================
Hey SKiDmark!
Why don’t you go live in commie China then! It’s a shame you weren’t conceived there because if you had been the rest of the world might have gotten lucky and you could’ve been one of those forced abortion the Reds are so proud of over there.
You don’t deserve to be called an American or live in our country talking about veterans the way you have but then suppose we should consider the source.
I’m absolutely positive your some sort of smelly little mealy mouthed stain that probably lives in his mommie’s basement and plays video games all night. Thinks he’s a big tough guy dissing veterans on line when you probably got you lunch money stolen every day! LOL
Get your head out of your rear you need some air! You don’t deserve to lick the boots of ANY veteran that’s ever served regardless of when or where. Have a nice life loser.
SoCal is a patriot like I’m a Elbonian fighter pilot.
Hey Socal,
When your mom and dad got divorced did that mean they weren’t brother and sister anymore? LOL
NUKE IRAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
Vets. did what was expected of them; they received benefits and recognition the vast majority of the time. But, they do not get to have the privilege of never being criticized, doubted, or disagreed with. You got your dues and now you’re just another citizen. You are not a special class of people with rights above the rest of us and do not have any extra right to tell people what they are permitted to believe or say.
If you believe that’s what fighting a war got you, then you’re truly didn’t give a sh1t about fighting for the freedom of U.S. citizens. Hell, you and the countries that you’re aching to attack have exactly the same mindset.
“Hey Socal,”
Oh, a fake Moses now too. Who’s next? :D
Way to go…you nut-job left wingers, conspiracy-theory lovin’, and arm-chair generals…second guessing the military again.
Remember what happened to the USS Cole?
I’m so thankful we have a Republican commander-in-chief now and will have one again for another eight years after this fall’s election.
God Bless America. God Bless President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
“If you believe that’s what fighting a war got you, then you’re truly didn’t give a sh1t about fighting for the freedom of U.S. citizens.”
There goes your paranoid delusions again. Why do you make up stuff then get all angry?
Pull your head out kid…
nice to know the military is being run by panzies!!
You’re a complete and utter fool SKiDmark. No, you don’t serve your country and then just become another ordinary citizen when you get out of the service. When you serve your country you’ve earned the right for respect from the rest of us and if you’re too ignorant or stupid to understand that then I can’t help you.
You make me laugh because I know exactly the type of “ordinary” limpwristed pantywaist mealy mouthed sort of weasel you are you wouldn’t fight for anything in your life. You’d just go to a protest and wave a sign. Like I said being the big bad tough guy you are. LOL
“When you serve your country you’ve earned the right for respect from the rest of us and if you’re too ignorant or stupid to understand that then I can’t help you.”
Even simple respect would be nice but what do you expect from their kind?
Well, this has been interesting.
Hey FAKE SoCalPat…isn’t your mom gonna be pissed when she gets home and finds out you sat on the computer all day acting like a 3rd grader?! Did you get you’r room cleaned? Why aren’t you at school? Was it a snow day? If so, why aren’t you out shoveling or playing with your friends rather than sitting at the computer, getting more stupid, more fat? Don’t you have friends? Wait ’till that other nut drops and you see a girl….You’re gonna love it! But you have to go OUTSIDE to meet them. Speaking of which, I’m gonna go get a beer with my GIRLFRIEND, YOU F”N LOSER!
The Iranian action was a strategic feint. The goal of such a feint was to see how and how soon the US Navy would respond.
The Iranian military has to plan for all sorts of war contingencies, and this sort of mock attack provides them important information on US naval response times.
This kind of cat-and-mouse game happens routinely between friendly and adversarial nations. It’s provocative and dangerous. For proof look no further than the fate of Iran Air flight 655.
Expect such skirmishes to continue until one side is foolish enough to spark full scale conflict.
Never been to a protest in my life, Moses. But, I’ll just say that I am more than capable of defending myself, and let that go. I’ve had to fight for a few things. ;-)
Yes, you do and are supposed to get out and become an ordinary citizen again. Soldiers and the army are supposed to be nothing but weapons/tools to be used only when absolutely necessary and then put away. Militarism was never supposed to be at the core of American society. But, it is now and that’s why we actually have more in COMMON with the countries we invade or disapprove of. I think you would probably love it in some of those countries, Moses.
I’m surprised you didn’t throw pinko-commie in your rhetoric, Moses. Is it a coincidence that there are so many agonized vets. around here all of a sudden??
Anyone who continues to buy this Bushganda doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. This was staged to affect the election–pure and simple.
BUT ALL THE GULLIBLE AMERICANS WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING BUSH THROWS AT THEM.
All you are doing in believing this crap is throwing away yours and everyone else’s FREEDOMS. 1984 is here. Wake the muck up!
–
AMAZING testimony from one of our soldiers in Iraq. EVERYONE who supports Hucksterbee MUST watch this video. Copy and paste it, or just check out my favorites–it’s the first video!
watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM
–
H.R. 1955 – THOUGHT CRIMES BILL
With this bill, the U.S. government has officially labeled the People of the United States as criminals. It is drawing a line in the sand and stating that from now on, it’s the Government vs. the People. If we don’t stop this bill from becoming law, we are lost. There is no turning back from tyranny once the government turns its own citizens into criminals, enforcing only the thoughts, ideas, words that it approves or tolerates. Everything is at stake here!
“DANG!!! I am sooooo sorry to all of you for being such an idiot in my rantings here…..I was, minutes ago struck by lightning and have seen how stupid I have been all along. I am renouncing all things liberal, all things democrat and all things socialist. I have realized how dumb I have sounded here so I will go off into a room and shoot myself to preserve the sanctity of this forum. May God save my soul.”
“Hi everybody just wanted to apologize for my rude and dismissive posts. You see I just read the US Constitution and now I realize, EVERYBODY has the right to free speeh, go figure……”
Not even original….Who’s next? :D
This video shows nothing at all? You all obviously don’t remember the USS Cole. They didn’t see their explosives until there was a huge hole in the boat and U.S. service men and women died. In my opinion, these boats should not be floating right now. These sailors showed TREMENDOUS constraint. In a time of war, and yes folks we are at war believe it or not, there is plenty of reasons to shoot those boats out of the water for the way that they were behaving.
“Anyone who continues to buy this Bushganda doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. This was staged to affect the election–pure and simple.”
At least he dropped the bold, even if he spams teh same video.
Here’s Ron “the racist” Paul for you, “John”
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
He’s a loser, like you are.
You wussifiers that don’t believe what you see (or more likely too ignorant)consider that these boats would have been eliminated long before they could have gotten as close as they did if not for the wussification of U.S. media/politicians/public. Being an experienced navy vet, attentiveness to current events, I view this as a ‘trial run’ for another USS Cole-like attack only these ships were not docked. Take ‘em out next time, let Allah sort it out.
MUSHROOM CLOUD!!!
im really tiny,but my head produces much cheese,which feeds my followers
“I’m outta here.”
You’re out of brain cells too.
Ron “cut and run” Paul Exposed:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
Invade their country
Take their oil
Convert them to Christianity
Kill the rest
Repeat.
Problem solved.
More warmongering from Bush and his cronies.
The only people who support them are cowards who haven’t even served a second in the Military.
savage: a little knowlege can be dangerous in your brain. these little motor boats posed no particular threat to our warships who had them fully acquired as targets for instant destruction had it been required. your silly ranting about our navy’s leaders is a perfect example of your ignorance regarding them, their training and the potential and correct use of their awesome weapons. i suggest that you get off your duff and visit the armed forces on duty in the middle east. you’ll come away with a more accurate assessment of them. now, savage, i know that had i voiced my opinion on your radio show, you would have cut me short once you realized that i’m correct.
Send them to allah
Look at the dumb liberal moonbats saying GWB made this up…no wonder our troops hate the leftist scumbag douches in this country. Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh left wing pants wetters unite!
Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh left wing pants wetters unite!
Honestly, boys & girls, I don’t understand why so many of you feel it necessary to insult each other; to denigrate our country and its leaders; and I certainly don’t understand the anti-semitism that pervades much of the posts on this board.
I’m not Jewish but I hold in high regard any nation and, or group of people who value human rights, learning, culture and the arts. Comprising only 0.6-percent of the world’s population American, European and Israeli Jews are net-positive for all of human kind.
And, Israel is the only state in Middle East-Southwest Asia region that uses the tools of democracy in governance. The enemies of Israel, dictatorships all, cynically use, abuse and endanger their nationals to advance their twin goals of retaining unfettered power and destroying Israel.
The enemies we face are dangerous, irrational and capable — even eager — to inflict hideous horrors on anyone with whom they disagree. We who have the luxury of communicating with each other without fear of government restraint or reprisal should value this part of our liberties, treat it and treat those with whom correspond with respect and dignity. Name-calling, ethnic-racial-religious insults and general hubris toward each other neither advance understanding the serious situation we face nor do they promote civility and dignified discourse.
SD Patriot = Mass Murderer
anyone heard of the gulf of tonkin?
I can’t believe people still believe Bush’s blatant lies anymore. My little 9 year old even figured this one out.
“Daddy, are they faking us again?”
TIN FOIL HAT ALERT, TYPICAL KNEE-JERK PAULTARDS
“TIN FOIL HAT ALERT, TYPICAL KNEE-JERK PAULTARDS”
They seem to swarm when I post the truth about him.
Ron “blame America” Paul (and his supporters) Exposed:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
SoCal, you need some serious help. I’ve seen you on this board this all day. I went to work and and you are still on here posting. GET A LIFE!! Wait, this is your life, your a GOVERNMENT SHILL because I found your name on a list.
Quit lying about Ron Paul. No one is buying it.
When the PENTAGON finds a tape of the 757 that crashed into the building on 9/11 2001, I may believe anything these fools have to offer. When a plane the size of a 757 disappears after crashing LIVE on video tape, I simply can’t believe a thing they show me.
Here we have a Navy recreation of events that were said to have occured in international waters. A few boats, none of which look like they had mounted guns like was told, they don’t seem to be loaded with explosives like was told, they seem to get close as in 200 yards, they don’t swarm anything. You don’t hear any threats from the boats on radio like was told.
Here, all you people need to do, if you want to expose this story as crap. Remember the British sailors that were intercepted by the Iranian Navy
“What color were the Iranian speed boats in that story?” certainly not BLUE.
The Pentagon engages in mind control, because 95% of Americans are easy push overs, the government tells you something and you believe it. The Pentagon has HUNDREDS of cameras, now and on 9/11, it is the MOST protected building in the world. They would have you to believe that they have video evidence of a boat incident in the Strait of Hormus, but no video showing the 757 at ANYTIME, just fire and small parts. No bodies, no wings, no large nine foot engines, nothing. The video that the FBI was holding was finally released from acrossed the street from the Pentagon showed a huge explosion, but NO 757. Ask the CIA what really occured with these BLUE boats. Sounds like NATO boats to me, blue is their color.
“GET A LIFE!! Wait, this is your life, your a GOVERNMENT SHILL because I found your name on a list.”
Talk about nutjob conspiracy theory…
“Quit lying about Ron Paul. No one is buying it.”
Truth hurts, doesn’t it, retard? Typical teenage morons…
“When the PENTAGON finds a tape of the 757 that crashed into the building on 9/11 2001″
See? Conspiracy theory and Ron “the racist SOB” Paul go together because they’re all the same losers.
Pull your head out and mark my words: He’ll NEVER win the nomination because America saw what his inbred supporters did to Hannity and today they learned the truth about Roun “cut and run” Paul and his supporters:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
When he loses, remember that *I* told you he would while you make up more inbred conspiracy theory to explain your own delusions.
The Navy should have blown those boats up into 1 million toothpicks.
DAMMIT! My Internet Explorer crashed, and I had to reset my AOL dial-up connection.
“You idiot, don’t you know that I’m a disabled War VET YOU MORON! Dont you know I was in the army or something! I served in Vietnam in 1977!”
What’s so damn funny? IDIOT! You know how many gookies I took out in the war? PLENTY! And don’t even get me started on those Khmer Rogues, thieving bastards!
Everyone know I’m the only REAL Vet here! Inbred idiots! If it wasn’t for me, I’d be the only one that cared what I thought!
JOHN – you’re an inbred idiot! Nobody cares what the soldiers think! Except what I think! Inbred Idiot!
Remember the USS Cole.
The power struggle between Ahmidinijad and his hooligan Imams is currently in full swing/ Now is the time for the little man to make his strike against the Great Satan; he must know he’s about to be assassinated.
Speaking of hooligans, looks like Ron Paul; Obama and Hillary devotees have swarmed this site :) .
Buy this fake election Bushganda at your own peril. Serfs Ahoy!
“JOHN – you’re an inbred idiot! Nobody cares what the soldiers think! Except what I think! Inbred Idiot!”
Desperately trying to make it about me again…
Ron “the loser” Paul supporters are all the same :D
“When your mom and dad got divorced did that mean they weren’t brother and sister anymore?”
They never GOT divorced, you retarded inbred deluded idoit!
Charles, why would they blow up their own ships?
SoCal and all the other Bushies: MUST BE AFRAID!! MUST BE AFRAID!! MUST BE AFRAID!!
“Buy this fake election Bushganda at your own peril. Serfs Ahoy!”
No wonder your kid is already indoctrinated into your deluded ideology. :D
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“James Kirchick of the New Republic has a devastating piece on Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) online today on the TNR website. Kirchick provides a meticulously detailed history of the “Ron Paul Political Report,†a newsletter Paul had circulated to a network of some 7,000 subscribers from the late 80s and early 90s.
As Kirchick reports—whether describing post-apartheid South Africa as a “destruction of civilization,†alleging that Martin Luther King “seduced underage girls and boys,†warning of “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise,†or urging white readers to arm themselves after “the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,â€â€”virtually every historic trope of racism, anti-Semitism, anti-gay bigotry, or conspiracy theorizing has been featured in the “Ron Paul Political Report†in one way or another. For his part, Paul has alternately acknowledged writing some of the material that went out under his name, only to deny authorship when confronted with the most disturbing details. In any case, Paul has taken “moral responsibility†for the contents of the “Ron Paul Political Report.†What follows is a quick digest of some of his greatest, which is to say most disgraceful, hits.
I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
Truth hurts the deluded most…
Also keep in mind that Iran’s speed boats are 30 to 40 feet long, and are more like Oild WWII PT Boats, they are not Blue. The carry more then two sailors. Iran has a fleet of these.
These blue boats are maybe 12 – 15 feet long.
Meanwhile, Bush is on the way out, and Iran was cleared by the US of having nukes. So out of the clear BLUE they decide to swarm, with speed boats the most powerful Navy in the world.
Sureeeeee!!!!!
“They never GOT divorced, you retarded inbred deluded idoit!”
It hasn’t worked yet, you only keep proving me right…about you. :D
“SoCal and all the other Bushies: MUST BE AFRAID!! MUST BE AFRAID!! MUST BE AFRAID!!”
This kind of delusion is called “projection.”
“Today’s National Republican Presidential Nomination Poll:
Mike Huckabee 21%
Mitt Romney 19%
McCain 18%
Rudy Giuliani 13%
Fred Thompson at 11%
Ron Paul attracts 4% support”
Why would *I* be afraid of nobody like Ron “cut and run” Paul? He has ZERO CHANCE, there’s nothing to be afraid. Unless YOU’re afraid he’s going to lose, like he will.
Again, retards, pull your heads out… :D
Alice D. I have a recommendation for you: Learn to pray and then employ the practice. It will help. Promise.
NUKE them ALL….Let God sort them out!
“DARN! My Internet Explorer crashed, and I had to reset my AOL dial-up connection.”
See how far they’ll go to avoid reality? :D
These kids today…
Let’s lure all of these “Truth Givers” to Area 51 and make them disappear. Promises of Shiny New Tin foil Hats will be the perfect lure….
The fact that these boats were not sunk is inexcusable. The commander should be relieved, and all future incidents like this should require the Islamic scum to be fired upon and sunk.
“Idiots are LEGION. Look at our education compared to the world’s. We are almost the last, yet we are the most prosperous.”
Again, an obvious case of projection. A case of the deluded calling the sane, sheep. :D
How conveniant for the Republican Party,
no wonder McCain won NH. Was waiting for a Gulf of Tonkin incident. Looks like that is still to come. Can’t wait for that “Reagan” November Surprise. Bush will march out Osama in front of the camera”s for McCain.
“Also keep in mind that Iran’s speed boats are 30 to 40 feet long, and are more like Oild WWII PT Boats, they are not Blue. The carry more then two sailors. Iran has a fleet of these.
These blue boats are maybe 12 – 15 feet long.
Meanwhile, Bush is on the way out, and Iran was cleared by the US of having nukes. So out of the clear BLUE they decide to swarm, with speed boats the most powerful Navy in the world.
Sureeeeee!!!!!”
It’s simple Tim. Idiots are LEGION. Look at our education compared to the worlds. We are almost the last, yet we are the most prosperous. Hmm, why do you think this is so?
“The New Repuplic is owned by the government as is all the other media.”
See how *stupid* they really are?
This retardation is why Ron “blame America” Paul is losing everywhere and why they have to make up retarded conspiracy theory to explain it…
Wow, those little toy boats are some threat to our enormous battleships. Are they kidding? That’s a threat? Someone must be joking.
“Wow, those little toy boats are some threat to our enormous battleships. Are they kidding?”
A small rubber boat was used to blow up the USS Cole. You’re not even bright for a retard.
Why must we always provoke other countries? We have a lot bigger problems at home.
You idiot inbred idiots! I OWN THESE BOARDS, SO DON’T EVEN TRY, your not as smart as me, and I have NO LIFE, so I’ll spam the hell out these boards ALL DAY if I want!
If you don’t like it, STFU and get out of here!
I OWN THESE BOARDS AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
STFU and go home!
The fact is we would never have allow the ships to get that close, but they had to make the show look good for the gullible Americans. The lies will never end…
SoCal–You have a case of OCD when it comes to Ron Paul, seriously. You obsess more about his campaign and platform than any of his supporters ever could.
SKD, you are absolutely correct sir.
“You idiot inbred idiots! I OWN THESE BOARDS, SO DON’T EVEN TRY, your not as smart as me, and I have NO LIFE, so I’ll spam the hell out these boards ALL DAY if I want!
If you don’t like it, STFU and get out of here!
I OWN THESE BOARDS AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
STFU and go home!”
See how desperate they are to avoid reality? :D
“SoCal–You have a case of OCD when it comes to Ron Paul, seriously. You obsess more about his campaign and platform than any of his supporters ever could.”
You can claim that but he IS losing so evidently, I’m right about him. You can be on the wrong side, if you want but he IS going to lose, as he should lose, because he’s a racist SOB. (among other faults)
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
So, justify your own delusions by trying to make it about me, it wont work, it never does. :D
I see the moveon.org moonbats have weighed in on this event.
It’s hard to judge distance from the rough video, but I say if they get within 300 yards of one of our ships they should be engaged.
All the little kiddies complaining about warmongering on behalf of the US were still playing in the sandbox when the USS Cole was attacked.
Yana, well said, the rule of engagement are clear. These small speed / fishing boats or whatever they are were within 200 yards on their pass behind the USS Port Royal. These small vessels would had been destroyed in truth had this been a real matter.
The US 5th Fleet is not a play toy; therefore, this event was staged. Had this had been a real incident. The fleet would have reacted, we the American citizens, would not even have heard of the story for about a month, until all the reporting and paperwork of the incident was filed. There would be a media backout of the event so as to ascertain if indeed this was the Iranians and not pirates or other terrorists. The fact that the story came out so soon, indicates that it was staged.
Again, if anyone wants to expose this story for crap, all they need to do is look up the story about the British sailors that were intercepted by Iran. In that case, the speed boats were long about 30 – 40 feet and black, they were mounted with machine guns and more then two sailors aboard. If you can remember, the British sailors said they were clearly out gunned. Why, because the speed boats were armed.
In this video, the Pentagon, lol, I love these fools they are so funny, anyway, the Pentagon, would have you to believe that a group of five, you only see two, but five small blue unarmed speed / fishing boats approached assets of the US 5th fleet, the most powerful Navy in the world and claimed that they were going to attack.
Now, go back to the British incident, according to the British, there was no communication, no radio breakage, in fact radio silence, the speed boats were large and quickly surrounded their targets. The had MOUNTED machine guns as you would expect from warships of any Navy of any country. .. not a bunch of blue speed / fishing boats.
Bottom line, these blue boats were not fired on because they were part of a war game, staged to be used by the Pentagon. The Pentagon, an agency that can hide a 757, a 60+ ton plane, I guess in their outter wall.
“The Pentagon, an agency that can hide a 757, a 60+ ton plane, I guess in their outter wall.”
So retarded and they wonder why they’re marginalized…
Remember the USS Cole! Screw these iranian paedophiles- blast them back to whatever shithole they hatched from. GO USA!
The most amazing thing about all of this is that the Navy Ships didn’t open fire and send these knuckleheads to thier death. They would have been well within their rights to do so.
Then we have the folks that insist this is just some propaganda to inflame the American people against Iran.
If the Navy had blown them out of the water, these same folks would be screaming their heads off saying that we attacked some poor defenseless boaters. However, since the Navy didn’t even open fire they are screaming that it didn’t really happen. I’ll assume that if small boats had been successful in blasting a hole in one of the Navy ships, these same folks would be screaming the it was G.W.’s fault or perhaps it was really the Israelis the struck…
When will you open your minds to the possibility that America is really not that bad? When will you people let go of your hate for America?
When you stop feeling guilty for something we/you didn’t do… Open your mind… read history… realize that we have been a VERY positive influence in the world.
Let it go people. Let it go…
After the USS COle, we cannot allow these people to get that close, they should shoot at the ragheads and ask questions later!
I’m going to buy some stock in Reynolds because there’s more foil hats in here than I’ve seen in a while.
“When will you people let go of your hate for America?”
Never try to teach a pig to sing, it doesn’t work and it annoys the pig. A certain amount of people think Elvis is still alive.
There will always be nutjobs…
[...] Raw: Pentagon Releases Video of Iranian Boats Confronting US Warships Breitbart.tv » Raw: Pentagon Releases Video of Iranian Boats Confronting US Warships [...]
Please Iranians and Neo-Cons. If you think that a few dingies are any match for the USN you are truly trying to insult us. This amounts to a “your mamma” joke.
Amazing how you both want war. Equals in your radical views. How bout if we had Iranian war vessels in the Gulf of Mexico? Probably wouldn’t make the news.
the strategy is that the enemy wants us to shoot at them, so we look like murders.nice try.telaban get no new marters today.
I am sure Iran saw Hillary cry and is now praying for her victory (weakness) They know with a Clinton win, we will go back to sleep while they prepare for final destruction of America. You Dems are insane and dangerous. The boats should have been sunk within 300 yards. Did we not learn anything from the USS Cole? (Clinton watch)
The Pentagon said before the video that the boats were armed with MOUNTED machine guns. And possibly packed with explosives.
Where are the machine guns on these Bright blue speed / fishing boats?
If you can’t answer, STOP supporting the Pentagon’s story. You are a fool, and no one with any sense is listening to your claims.
Hillary can’t win the national, too divisive, imo.
“The Pentagon said before the video that the boats were armed with MOUNTED machine guns. And possibly packed with explosives.
Where are the machine guns on these Bright blue speed / fishing boats?
If you can’t answer, STOP supporting the Pentagon’s story.”
I can answer. They said ONE of the boats had a mounted machine gun, not all of them.
Try again kid…
Oh, by the way.. All you Obama lovers claim he will bring America together. Can you explain how you do this by creating a further left position than Hillary and her socialist party? Change is not another Clinton for 8 years. Change for Obama means putting a first term senator in charge of our future? You have two choices, are you voting for the skin color or the womb because they dont come with brains
I love living in So Cal but it is becoming a poverty state thanks to the Democratic Party. God Bless the USA and the armed forces protecting the Liberal idiots to speak freely.
“The Navy let them get way too close. At a minimum, warning shots should have been fired at that range, since the boats could have been packed with unseen explosives. This is no game.”
As I’ve said before, if they try it again, they may get different results. ;)
One, lol, hahahah, well If I had one boat mounted with a machine gun, I would, I guess approach the US 5th fleet too.
I wonder if you get paid, for this.
You will receive no more replies clown.
You are a classic case of an over-drugged idiot
“I love living in So Cal but it is becoming a poverty state thanks to the Democratic Party. God Bless the USA and the armed forces protecting the Liberal idiots to speak freely.”
Grew up here but I’m thinking about heading to Texas or Florida. Maybe when SCOTUS hears the DC gun ban case, things might get better here too. We’ll see. I want them to keep speaking, they keep proving my point, for me. :D
For those of you that “think” this was staged… The Iranian Military acknowledged that this confrontation took place but denied that the boats were taking a hostile stance.
Thinking for real once, you might come to the conclusion that they weren’t trying to actually sink a ship (even the USS Cole didn’t sink after sustaining significant damage) but the plan may have been to become martyrs for Islam.
If you get beyond your hate for America, you might also realize that had the same boats that surrounded and siezed the British gun boat made similar manuevers with these American Navy ships, they would have been blown out of the water well before they came into any effective range. Let’s assume that the Iranians aren’t stupid (crazy but not stupid) and they assume that this type of action is caught on video tape. Boats with deck mounted machince guns get blown out of water by US Navy ships in self defense. VERY few people have a problem. Outcry is small(with the possible exception of those of you defending them on this blog). Small speed boats without gun mounted machine guns get blown out of the water and, once again, we look like the bad guys…
It’s a war of positioning and propaganda and you seem to be so willing to accept their story over ours. Ask yourself why? Open your minds.
Anyway, people with sense know what time it is. Here, we have another false flag, we have all heard of false flag operations, in fact, in old cases the government admits it. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Certain presidents have been involved in staged events through out history. Leave it to the clowns of this board nothing is staged by our goverment, even the events they admit to.
This event is so close to the Gulf of Tonkin’s event that it was a sorry choice for a false flag. Contact the NSA’s website, go to their area labeled archives. They admit that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag.
This event, where Iran has been cleared of having nukes, and Bush and company are almost out of office. Simply doesn’t make any sense.
A group of unarmed bright blue speed /fishing boats approach the US 5th fleet, three assets of the fleet heavily armed, and these bright blue boats break rodio silence, saying I’m coming you’re going to explode! Meanwhile, the three $600+ dollar US vessels ’stand down’ and do NOT fire. LOL.
In the British sailor incident, the boats were larger, they were black, they ALL were armed heavily with mounted machine guns and the sailors on board were armed. They broke no radio silence as you would expect from a fleet targeting their foes. What fools, lol come floating in to a group of US Navy vessels armed with Nothing, screaming we will explode your ships?
Please people, this was a false flag operation, designed by the Pentagon on orders, to create a fake matter, to give some food to a possible attack on Iran before Bush leaves office.
“Gulf of Tonkin”
Thanks for parroting the “Rosie” crowd, you’re still only proving me right. :D
Tim John…
Watch out! The black helicopters are swirling around your home… Their gonna get you!
Wake up fella. Why so much hate for America?
Its obvious the US is no position to respond to this. Neo-Con’s foriegn policy has failed. The US is only looking for a way out. In US a complete financial collapse following a derivatives collapse is next. This is the beggining of the dark age for US. As for Iran, its the key country in the coming Eurasian economic revolution.
“This is the beggining of the dark age for US.”
What a retard…so funny.
After the first couple of posts, what idiots! Bush can take a flying leap.
Those boats came way too close to the navy ships. Why they didn’t fire I have no idea. Navy ships are slow at turning and those little boats could’ve had who knows what loaded on them. The USS Cole just shows that there isn’t enough taken for the defense of these ships.
The idiots flaming just show they have no clue as to what actually goes on and how dangerous the situation could’ve been.
This isn’t even throwing into account the political ramificaitons.
Looks like those crazy Iranians brought a sword to a gun fight. They ought to be hitting their knees and thanking the merciful allah they weren’t blown out of the water. What a joke…
Dear lefties: Thanks for checking in and proving again that any idiot can operate a computer at the local library, and that LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DEFECT.
Now, go stare at a picture of Hugo Chavez and jerk yourselves a soda…..
yes but the USS Cole was put out of comission and towed back. The pretty blue speedboats could be packed with high explosives or small tactical nuclear devices. The would do this to provoke us into some action because little Hitler is losing support. He needs to raise the stakes to keep everyone behind him
Death to Iran! Death to Syria!
IUCK FRAN !!!!
one LAST thing. If Hillary or Obama becomes our next president, will the LEFT stop crying about race & gender bias in this country? Will they do away with affirmative action? I bet no becuase they need fear to stay in power.
What a non-story. I’m sure the most powerful navy in the world was quaking in their boots at the threat of those sea-doos.
“What a non-story. I’m sure the most powerful navy in the world was quaking in their boots at the threat of those sea-doos.”
It’s not about “quaking” and denial isn’t a river in Egypt kid…
These clowns were unarmed in bright blue boats, with bright orange safe-vests on. LOL hahahah,
The Pentagon says the boats are mounted with machine guns and possibly armed with explosives. They say here we come to blow you up.
They then show a video of men, cruising in bright blue speed /fishing boats with bright orange safe jackets on. LOL, headed towards hree assets of the US 5th fleet.
I can’t do anything but laugh, this is the sorriest story I ever heard.
Only a fool takes this at face value, meanwhile Bush is on his way out of office, and America has declare recently that Iran is not making nukes. …
So, Iran decides to play with the US 5th fleet, yeah right.
Bright orange safejackets, lol wow ,..
This was a false flag. These boats wouldn’t stand a chance against a group of redneck fishermen on fish boats armed with single-shot bolt action rifles.
But instead, the Pentagon, would have you believe here, that a fleet lol, of five clowns heavily ARMED ONLY with bright orange safejackets approached the world most powerful Navy, in bright blue boats screaming we will explode your ships.
Whats worse is in the video, the blue speed boats are allowed to circle all the way around the USS Port Royal within 200, try 140 feet behind the USS Port Royal.
“But instead, the Pentagon, would have you believe here, that a fleet lol, of five clowns heavily ARMED ONLY with bright orange safejackets approached the world most powerful Navy, in bright blue boats screaming we will explode your ships.”
You still need to pull your head out. Iran admits it happened, they just called it “normal.” WTF is wrong with you, retard?
You’re still an idiot…
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080108/D8U1UNM80.html
“In Tehran, Iran’s Foreign Ministry suggested the Iranian boats had not recognized the U.S. vessels. Spokesman Mohammed Ali Hosseini played down the incident. “That is something normal that takes place every now and then for each party,” he told the state news agency IRNA.”
Seriously, does it hurt to be as stupid as you must be?
ANY navy would find those moves VERY provocative. They ignored established protocol for ship/boat behavior, belong to an aggressor force, are faster and more maneuverable and outnumbered them, and supposedly radioed threats.
Anyone remember what one smaller boat did to the USS Cole? This vid was from a home vid camera and does not have the magnification of Naval glass (not seeing detail) and they were not in the Comm room so you would not likely hear radio audio. Common sense people.
Just breaking!…It’s dark outside!…Must be Bush’s fault!
The audio was very bad.
If that was real and we let whom ever’s fast boats get that close to my tax dollars in Boat Metal and sailors and we didn’t fire at least warning shots, I’m pissed off at whomever is making the decision to let the fast boats get that close. If they get that close, sink em and go about your business.
OK all of you lunatic left wing losers that don’t think this is serious $*&@…. keep thinking that this is a bunch of happy muslims out for a joy ride… you bunch of weasels!!!!
When all hell breaks loose, maybe then, you will understand what we are up against! You freakin PUSSIES! The pansy-assed attitude you lefty losers in this country exude is exactly what is going to get us ALL killed. Go ahead…vote for one of those Democrat losers, Obama yo Mamma or Hilliary Clintoon… then kiss your ass goodbye!
Iran ‘did not harass US warships’
Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:09:36
An Iranian official has dismissed Washington’s claims that IRGC speedboats harassed three US navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz.
The US vessels approached the Iranian boats in the Persian Gulf on Sunday, warning they were in the red zone, the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Press TV on Monday.
He added that the Iranians had asked the warships to identify themselves, as such radio communications are usual between vessels in the Persian Gulf.
Although the Pentagon claimed that US sailors were given orders to open fire on the Iranian boats, the official confirmed no hostile encounter took place.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=37833§ionid=351020101
So now you have a case of who is telling the truth.
SOCAL–You haven’t shown any thing except how much of a war fanatic you are and how tightly you can wrap yourself in the flag.
John January 9th, 2008 – 6:38 am
Its obvious the US is no position to respond to this. Neo-Con’s foriegn policy has failed.
You are a complete IDIOT. The minute you mentioned “Neo-Con”… that’s what gave you away! You definately will be one of those doofuss’ (along with the rest of you weenies)that will be scratching your ass wondering why the hell you voted DemoRat!
“Although the Pentagon claimed that US sailors were given orders to open fire on the Iranian boats”
You lie too. They said that the order to prepare to fire was given, not open fire. There’s a difference, kid.
You’re an ignorant dolt.
“SOCAL–You haven’t shown any thing except how much of a war fanatic you are and how tightly you can wrap yourself in the flag.”
You’ve shown that you and your kind are all deluded fools, I only have to point out that you retards don’t know WTF you’re talking about. You idiots haven’t been right once and, your candidate, Ron “the racist” Paul, lost NH too. :D
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
They make it SO easy when they keep proving me right about them… :D
notice the blue speedboat in the back – its Iranian navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iran_Navy.jpg
Oh, no! The waterski boats are threatening us!
Why don’t we stop antagonizing Iran and stop taking orders from Israel, OK? Let’s put America First instead of Israel, OK?
So, was it 5 nice Iranian families out pleasure boating in the Straights of Hormuz, or was it 5 boats piloted by CIA agents in a covert op to spread fear and hatred. And if the latter, why not take some shots, blow something up, kill a few sailors for effect?
“notice the blue speedboat in the back – its Iranian navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iran_Navy.jpg”
Notice the life jackets too? Don’t expect logic or reason to work on mental midgets, the short yellow bus crowd has never been accused of being smart. ;)
“So, was it 5 nice Iranian families out pleasure boating in the Straights of Hormuz, or was it 5 boats piloted by CIA agents in a covert op to spread fear and hatred.”
See how detached from reality conspiracy theory nutjobs are?
By the way. For all of those demonrats demanding we leave Iraq now, when is Hillary & Bill going to bring home the troops from Serbia? They never attacked us and had no WMD but Clinton sent us to fight – saying they would be home by Christmas (which year?) perhaps we should have leaft in defeat like we did in Somalia. THATS RIGHT, we are still dealing with the terrorists there (blak hawk down) and the ethiopians have bigger nads that Clinton. They are there doing the job for us.
You think gas is high now? Wait until dems leave the region in caos
OK, so the CIA stole 5 Iranian speed boats from the Iranian Navy OR they ferried over 5 counterfeited boats from the US and launched them nearby from the coast of Iran or UAE, with no witnesses, and proceeded to “spread fear” by driving near US warships?
is that about it?
“OK, so the CIA stole 5 Iranian speed boats from the Iranian Navy OR they ferried over 5 similar boats from the US and launched them nearby from the coast of Iran or UAE, with no witnesses, and proceeded to “spread fear†by driving near US warships?
is that about it?’
Right, they just happened to be able to talk Iran into admitting it. Denial isn’t a river in Egypt kid.
See? Shoot down one retarded conspiracy theory and they’ll make up another rather than admit their delusions.
Get your meds adjusted…
Ah that’s right SoCal, the Iranians did admit the incident occurred.
I guess it’s possible that the CIA stole the Iranian boats, forcing the Iranians to admit to the encounter so as to save the embarrassment of admitting the loss/theft of their own boats.
it’s all starting to make perfect sense now
USN should have blown these @ssholes out of the water. They were just f*ing with us, and you poke a stick at a tiger – WAIT! THAT HAPPENED! And the guy got mauled. Now attendance is up at SF Zoo. Wanna see it again???
For those of you that say the boats did not come that close to our American warships, tell that to the crew members of the USS Cole. It scares me to no end that some think that America is the instagating side in most of the worlds current conflicts. That sad truth is that we are called to usually clean other nations conflicts up for them. Radical Islam wants all Americans dead, liberal or conservative. SMOKE’EM
“…forcing the Iranians to admit to the encounter so as to save the embarrassment of admitting the loss/theft of their own boats.
it’s all starting to make perfect sense now”
Iran WISHES they could claim we stole their boats. Why are you on their side again?
Meds…
wait wait wait.
I’ve got it
The NSA, through the use of illegal wire taps has the goods on the Iranian Minister of Information. Through this leverage the NSA CIA FBI and World Bank were able to flip this dude into admitting to something that the Iranians didn’t even do, allowing an American Seal force to operate with impunity in the region, feigning in essence an attack by the Seals on American warships.
yes yes yes I think this is it
“The NSA, through the use of illegal wire taps has the goods on the Iranian Minister of Information. Through this leverage the NSA CIA FBI and World Bank were able to flip this dude into admitting to something that the Iranians didn’t even do, allowing an American Seal force to operate with impunity in the region, feigning in essence an attack by the Seals on American warships.”
You sound more like the Iraqi Information Minister.
“There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!”
:D
dont forget those little black boxes dumped by the Iranian speed boats we actually the secret prison files Bush is hiding. But dont tell anyone because its a right wing thing.
The hate America crowd also knows that China is our best friend and wont be starting a Taiwan take over anytime soon (while we get sucked in to an islamic war) Your correct SoCal, they need meds.
They call us RIGHT for a reason.
Oh My God! It’s the Iranian Navy! Cower Cower Superpower!
“Oh My God! It’s the Iranian Navy! Cower Cower Superpower!”
Yeah they were cowering so much the Iranians ran away instead of boarding like they did to the UK boat that they really feared!
Completely divorced from reality…
this just in
A FISA court has overturned the wiretap of the Iranian Minister of Information, disallowing it’s use in this propaganda effort/military black op/CIA bag job
NY Times lead story Wednesday : US, Bush Cheating to Win War
OK…here’s one more attempt to inject facts into this discussion:
A number of correspondents in the thread have commented on the Iranian navy and asked if speed boats are that nation’s main naval force…While these fast-attack craft are dangerous and capable of laying surface mines, firing anti-shipping missiles, firing the 12.7 mm Russian-built machine guns they carry the main threat they pose is direct suicide attack. Each of the 20-foot type is capable of carrying more than 1,000 pounds of high explosives; which would do serious harm to frigate or even destroyer-size US naval vessels. The larger ‘cigarette boats’ can carry enough high explosive to temporarily disable even a Nimitz Class carrier…or fire the French-made Exocet anti-shipping missile, which is a very serious and dangerous capability.
But the Iranian navy also owns at least five littoral waters diesel-electric submarines. Among these so-called ‘brown water’ submarines are at least two German-made 503-class advanced technology boats, each armed with four 16-inch bow tubes and some versions also include two similar stern tubes…the torpedoes they fire can literally blow a frigate out of the water or crack the keel and sink any ship up to cruiser tonnage. These submarines constitute a serious threat to shipping in the Persian Gulf at large and can bottle-up the Strait of Hormuz; effectively cutting off more than one-third of maritime oil shipping capacity.
Other submarines and surface combatant capital ships in the Iranian navy include Russian, German and French-made ships and boats up to destroyer tonnage; and each is equipped with modern navigation and targeting systems.
Of the five major maritime sea lane choke points (Hormuz, Suez Canal, Panama Canal, Straits of Bosporus and the Malacca Straits) Hormuz is the most vulnerable…and presents the greatest potential to damage to the total world economy. The consequences of allowing Iran to dominate this choke point could be disastrous, more so to Europe and Asia than to the US, but would certainly be harmful to our economy.
As the sole remaining super power, our nation has responsibilities under a number of international agreements, treaties and conventions…our presence as the sea lane guarantor is not ‘US unilateralism,’ but an accepted and expected duty of the world’s foremost maritime power.
And, for those who view this and other incidents as part of some sort of warmongering conspiracy consider this: a conspiracy requires the cooperation and guarantee of secrecy by several-to-many participants and history proves that keeping such secrets is impossible — someone will talk. Thus far, there is zero evidence that any sort of ‘War For Profit’ conspiracy exists…Conspiratorial fears expressed by a certain political orientation segment of society are little more than irrational and paranoid.
“this just in”
“I blame Al-Jazeera – they are marketing for the Americans!”
So funny…
In the end, everyone with sense knows what really occured here. These bright blue speed boats with men wearing bright orange safejackets, during the bright of day were not armed, their vessels were not low in the water so as to indicate they were heavy with explosives. Certainly, some small boats are used by the Iranians for peace time missions and wartime mission, we don’t know, that’s not the point, the point is of course that in the original story, it said that these boats approached barking that they would blow up vessesls of the US 5th fleet. Vessels that cost more then some states yearly budget that they recieve from the goverment. The stories claimed that these speed boats were armed with mounted machine guns; however, you do not see any weapons in the video. The US Coast Guard has bright orange small ships and all white ships; however, these small boats are NEVER used for an attack on anything, let alone an attack on vessels the size nd strengh of the US 5th fleet. Only a foolish person thinks that with Bush time in office extremely limited, and after America’s Intelligence Community has declared that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program, that Iran would then create some sort of ‘childish-like prank’ in open waters for absolutely no reason. But that is of course what you have here, and people who may be being paid to look foolish. It is a wild affair, I see two speed boats race around the USS Port Royal as if the ship was a good ole friend to be played with. These men knew nothing would occur. In truth, these small boats wouldn’t have been allowed to get that close to these vessel, because the rules for cease-fire are trumped when you are talking about the lose of vessels costing over $600 million a piece. These men orders are clear, in events like the following would have occured, as the speed boats approached they would have been warned by loud horn and radio communications to leave the area, then they would have been hit with non-lethal ’sound’ deterrent systems, just like huge luxury ships use to as a deterrent against pirates. These speed boats would have been treated like pirates. If somehow, the speed boat’s crews were armed with sound deterrent blocking device, warning shots would have come from the US 5th fleet vessels, followed by deadly force. The rules for engagement are not ambiguous to each situation differently, they remain the same for all hostile situations. There is NO WAY in hell these boats gentlely cruised around alone side of these US 5th fleet vessels, without the ending being their death, other then the simple fact that this was indeed a staged event.
The most important factor in this case, is the original story, where the Pentagon was clear, they said that the ships had mounted guns and were behaving in such a manner so as to believe they were loaded with explosive.
The story gets better, then the Iranians break radio silence, and tell the US 5th vessels, “I’m coming for you, you will explode” – or to that effect.
This means war, an act of war, or war has been declared, because the threat has voiced clearly it intent.
You couldn’t just cruise by US warships in peace times, they order you back from them so many yards, BUT HERE, according to the story the Iranians had already declared their intent, which was an act of war upon a US vessels in international waters.
The fact that they didn’t fire on these small bright blue boats with orange jacket wearing crews was because, this was a staged event. There can be no other reason.
YOU OR I CAN’T EVEN go to let’s say, just any local police station, armed with snowballs, and say your department is about to blow up, we then continue to approach the police after they say stand down and attempt circle around them.
We are American citizen, in America, a would be shot down dead like a pack of rabbit dogs in the streets for something that simple.
Here, the Pentagon, would you believe, that clowns cruising around in bright blue boats, armed with orange safejackets had declared war on American vessels worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and were allowed to circle around them, and toy with our vessels like this was a ski-trip off of the US 5th Fleet’s vessels wake waves. The answer here is please.
This was a false flag event, staged by orders
And inside the white boxes:
The Iranians were simply trying to return the yellow cake that we gave them. They got enough from the Syrians
Such nice people that Iranian Navy…
“Fire at will, gentlemen.”
The US Navy Captain should have put a couple of .50 cal rounds through their hulls and watched the “Iranian Navy” deal with their new fifteen minutes of fame.
A Cigarette boat loaded with high explosive is the Iranian version of a “smart bomb.” Not too smart for the driver though.
P.S. For style points you Iranian Navy guys have really got to consider another color scheme for your Navy…robin’s egg blue isn’t cuttin’it…may I be so bold as to suggest basic black, goes with anything.
After the cole, we should never have let the boats come that close, ti me , the navy has not learned from past mistakes. I am disgusted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7106335.stm
this is the answer… the Ianian president is losing support and is trying to rally the crowd. He wanted us to fire on innocent boats. simple really.
hey look, some motor boats… :::yawn:::
“He wanted us to fire on innocent boats. simple really.”
Innocent is a bit of a stretch, imo…
Conspiracy Theory Racist Exposed:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
“I’m thinking this :”
Right, an anti-missile system on a small boat. Why not just use the laser-guided-rocket-propelled-nukes on them? Does your mother allow you to play on the computer this late?
No, that’s a “close in support” gun
surface or air
Still overkill for a small boats like those, they’re not that fast.
We should have absolutely creamed those boats.
They were warned repeatedly, and they ignored the warnings.
It’s time to grow a pair when dealing with Iran.
Seems they were feeling us out. Our boys should have a standing order that any provokation to our ships by nations openly hostile toward us will be met with lethal force. All you passifist pansies can wait until you local mall explodes before you develop a spine. better then than any one of us, I say.
Smile when you say damn yankee Ahmadinejad.
“Seems they were feeling us out.”
Of course they were but don’t expect the conspiracy theory nutjobs to understand simple logic.
I think it would deter future incursions
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_Phalanx_CIWS_Firing_lg.jpg
That weapon is for anti-aircraft, I had 2 on my ship when I served. I don’t recal the exact rounds per minute but I think its around 3,000. It would reduce a jet to tatters in no time.
So would this:
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/104_spring2004.web.dir/Peratrovich_Totemoff_Project/Images/RedMushroomCloud.jpg
but I don’t really think it’s a good idea to use on a small boat 200 yards away. :D
You do amuse me so…
“That weapon is for anti-aircraft, I had 2 on my ship when I served. I don’t recal the exact rounds per minute but I think its around 3,000. It would reduce a jet to tatters in no time.”
I want to know how much it costs to fire it for 10 seconds… ;)
Block 1B Phalanx Surface Mode (PSUM) upgrade allows engagement of small, high-speed, maneuvering surface craft and low, slow-moving aircraft, and hovering helicopters. This upgrade incorporates a thermal imager, an automatic acquisition video tracker, and a stabilization system for the imager, providing both day and night detection of threats.
4,500 RPM
Look at the pretty colors..wonder if you can see the huge sheet of glass from space? That is what you get when sand is superheated isn’t it? Bye Bye abu
You must be living in America, but no other country would let you speak nonsense!
Unfortunately, this is a big win for Iran. Between their massive support here (i.e. the democrat party) and the blind support of their ignorant populous, they’ve shown yet again, that they can be the aggressor and the U.S. will do nothing about it. Just like the kidnapping of the British soldiers last year, what did the U.K. do? Wring their hands like a bunch of sillynannies (to take from Family Guy), no aggressive action at all. Same with the USS Cole, and what did we do? Let Iran get away with blaming it on “radicals.” Hmmm, where are all the Iranian weapons coming from that are killing our friends and family serving in Iraq? That’s right, from terrorist Iran.
Bush really f’d up on Iraq, Hussein (a distant cousin of Barrack) was a paper tiger, he didn’t have the money to project world-wide terror, and didn’t have the infrastructure to do anything more than try to take over nearby countrys. Not to mention those people have been satisfied living under oppression for 3000 years and have shown no aptitude towards any type of change towards freedom.
So what about the Iranian people? One on one, they probably wouldn’t have a problem with their social equivalent in the western world. However, as they support, encourage and aid their governments terrorist actions, does that not make them our enemy? We need to get off this high horse mentality that people want our way of life, they don’t. However, if they try and destroy or harm our way of life, they are the enemy. Its called massive collateral damage.
You are all leftist-inbred IDIOTS!
I cannot believe I continue to TELL YOU ALL THAT!
YOU INBREDS!
“You are all leftist-inbred IDIOTS!”
See how desperate the Ron “cut and run” Paul supporters are? :D
New Hampshire – 289 of 301 Precincts Reporting – 96%
Name Party Votes Vote %
McCain , John GOP 86,802 37%
Romney , Mitt GOP 73,806 32%
Huckabee , Mike GOP 26,035 11%
Giuliani , Rudy GOP 20,054 9%
Paul , Ron GOP 17,831 8%
Even Rudy beat him…that’s pathetic, he didn’t even run in NH and that made them mad.
Racist Exposed:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.”
Good luck…
“You are all leftist-inbred IDIOTS!”
This kid is stupid but even an inbred POS like him must understand that people know the difference in your posts and mine.
They all know that any name can be used by anyone. You’re only fooling yourself and proving me right about morons like you.
So funny… :D
the hallmark of Liberalism / Socialism is emotion. Emotion rules the thought process of most on the far left. It makes you all quite suggestible and this has manifested itself as an irrational hatred for Bush and anything Bush is associated with. It’s driven many of you to hate your own country and those sworn to protect it.
If W cured cancer tomorrow, many on here would hail it as a conspiracy to put oncologists and research hospitals out of business.
get ahold of yourselves
“Even Rudy beat him…that’s pathetic, he didn’t even run in NH and that made them mad.”
Everyone knows the primaries were rigged!
It’s not a theory! It’s a FACT!
Giuliani ‘08!
“So funny… :D”
Copy and pasting parts of previous replies still wont make you me kid. You’ll still wake up you, unfortunately. :D
These kids today…
I’m a Douche
“Everyone knows the primaries were rigged!”
No, retard, you mean, deluded Ron “blame America” Paul supporters “think” the primaries are rigged.
Not even close… :D
Vote Ron Paul!
“These kids today…”
I wish I could be you… That’s all I want.
You’re just an angry right-wing cashewjob.
“You’ll still wake up you”
I can’t wake up me if you or I never go to sleep.
“Vote Ron Paul!”
Listen, people can’t vote for Ron “cut and run” Paul if he doesn’t even get on the ballot.
Good luck…
“Vote Ron Paul!”
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
Why?
“I wish I could be you… That’s all I want.”
Clearly…
“Listen, people can’t vote for Ron “cut and run†Paul if he doesn’t even get on the ballot.”
Oh they CAN vote for him, most choose not to, for good reasons… :D
SoCal
Oh lookie here, a Guiliani supporter learned to use the “internet”. Very good, all eleven of you on the internet here are so cute with your little comments. You know, it’s always most effective to stay online for 7 hours commenting on a breitbart forum…thats effective.
Guiliani sure has been tearing it up in the primaries…if I remember right, he lost 4% to 10% to Ron Paul.
And you faux-republicans need our 10% to win the general election, so looks like you’re screwed.
The USA are a bunch of cowards! Those speed boats could have been rigged with TNT. Remember the USS Cole? Obviously this stupid country is going down the tubes thanks to the likes of Dead Kennedy. The next scenario you are going to see 100 of these boats teasing out warships and we do absolutely NOTHING!
“Oh they CAN vote for him, most choose not to, for good reasons… :D”
You know Mr. Patriot, we see eye-to-eye on many a topic.
I actually didn’t watch the entire video, but I saw multiple posts (not yours, technically) calling people inbreds. I assumed these were all yours, but as of current, I have realized they are not. My apologies.
By the way, I actually am a kid. I just needed something to occupy me.
Thank you!
“I actually didn’t watch the entire video, but I saw multiple posts (not yours, technically) calling people inbreds. I assumed these were all yours, but as of current, I have realized they are not. My apologies.
By the way, I actually am a kid. I just needed something to occupy me.”
I rest my case…
If a suspicious person starts running towards a police officer and acting as though he’s going to attack, the officer has authority to shoot that person.
I applaud our Navy for the steely bawls to not react to this provocation. These ba$tard$ strap explosives to children and blow up innocent civilians. The comment about “no apparent weapons” is ridiculous. The boat itself is a weapon, not to mention the hundreds of pounds of explosives that could be hidden in the hull of the boat. Any one of those boats could have rammed into the side of one of our ships before we even had a chance to respond.
These idiots like to do dry runs of their attacks — kind of “feel out” our response. Don’t be surprised if this is just a prelude. We should have blown those a$$holes out of the water and sent a message to Iran to back the f__k down.
Why don’t you leftist retards get a clue.
As do I, comrade. As do I.
Tomorrow is another day of working to inject our beliefs into the minds of nutjobs!
And be on the lookout for a new conspiracy: it has been said that when the votes were counted by diebold, Clinton came out with the majority. And when the votes were counted by hand, obama won!
Just thought I would inform you, sir.
“And be on the lookout for a new conspiracy: it has been said that”
None of them are ever well thought out, they all unravel when you scrutinize them and I’m no hillary fan.
Good luck and good night…
Wow, what menacing little speedboats in international waters, where anyone can pretty much do what they like, since it’S international waters, not american.
SoCal Patric.o.ck do you always troll forum posts like that? Must be some red-neck hillbillie with no job to have that kind of time.
It’s a good thing that the people in the Military have more self controle than the “extreme bloggers” bashing them. Considering how many GenXers have experienced combat themselves, and still believe that they are fighting for continued freedom for all of us, including Iraqis and Afghans, I think this acrid 60’s mentality will eventually just die out. The folks manning the bridges of the Navy ships did an absolutely outstanding job, in exposing the Iranians’ intentions. Just watch and listen to some of the dialogue on the new tape. No rude blogger acting out online will ever change the respect I have for people, young or old, who have/had the guts and self-discipline to put the well-being of others before their own, and resist ill-intentioned provocations. The most amazing part is that most people serving currently are between 20 and 30 and they have the discernment only gaine through experience, usually reserved to 40 or 50 year olds. Go Navy!
That was the Iranian Navy? And some sailor just happened to be on deck with a video camera? And distributing footage of an international incident is OK without approval from superior officers? Hey, thanks for the laugh!
Iran isn’t a terrorist state and wouldn’t send SPEEDBOATS to ‘attack’ armed and paranoid US naval warships. This is just Bush provoking the Iranians in order to appease the Israelis, since President Putin has prevented world war 3.
I read though all the posts here and I just can’t believe some of the people on this board. Commanders in the region have to weigh every situation and threat. This happens every day on the DMZ in Korea and all over the world. Threats and provocative actions are dealt with all the time. They have to be weighed against the possibility of creating a national incident that could start another war.
This was close but nothing happened! The Navy held back from giving these idiots a way to raise more hatred against the US. This has turned into a non-story (except on this board). Close call, and the Iranian military has idiots that can drive boats. These people were seconds away from being fish food. They try it again and that’s how they will end up.
What good does it do Bush? How does it affect the election? Not at all in my book. McCain won in NH tonight but he was predicated to win there for weeks. Not a chance a Republican will get elected no matter what happens.
Chalk this up to man that was close and go back on Patrol. Like it or not we ARE a target. Like it or not there are quite a few people in the world that don’t like the US and are trying to take us out or embarrass us anyway they can.
Does the government lie to us? Sure.
Are things messed up right now? Yes!
Is the FDA full of it and getting paid by the drug companies? Of course!
Are lobbyist and special interest groups running the country? I would bet my last dollar on it.
There is way too much going on to debate if this was real or not. Get off your A#@ and do something about it. I have an idea, find a candidate that might have a shot at getting elected and volunteer to help with the campaign. Get involved in the process that could change the way things are going. I know it sounds a little bit like work but that is what this country is suppose to be about. Freedom of choice, freedom of speech and all that…
If someone threatens us like this we should blow them out of the water the same way most of us would protect our family if anyone came into our house and tried to hurt our family. From some of the comments on this board I think some of you people would just buy them a beer and try to bond.
Get a grip on reality. If you really think that everyone in the government is lying to you ALL the time then I know a guy that wears a towel on his head, tore up his US Passport and told the other lunatics to kill as many Americans as they can. I am sure he can introduce you to some of his friends and you can all get together and share stories about how messed up the US is.
If you don’t want to respect the veterans on this board that’s your choice. Me thinking your an ungrateful piece of garbage is my choice. Just because these people gave up years of their lives at a pay rate that is under the governments definition of poverty. Just so you would not have to deal with people invading the country you live in or bombs going off while your attending a wedding or going to buy groceries for your family. Your right you owe them nothing.
I know I just want to say thanks for keeping most of the crap that’s going on all over the world at least an Ocean away. I am all ears for your opinions because you earned the right to give it. Everyone else should get in line behind them. At least they got off their A@# and did something about it other than bitching.
“I am amazed at the control shown by the Navy.”
I’m disturbed by it. If this weren’t just a probe we would be discussing three severely damaged ships and heavy casualties.
I don’t know what was going through the captains’ minds at the time. However with the persecution of the military in the press and by the JAG Corps I wouldn’t be surprised if the thought of the skewering they’d get in the media at least crossed their mind. That and the thought of being hung out to dry by the administration during a publicity provoked court martial could cause lethal hesitation.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01082008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/iran_1__usa_0_380577.htm?page=1
The actions of the boats in this video was sufficient provocation for the individual Commanding Officer’s of each of the respective vessels to order them sunk. It was very close to being sufficient for the individual weapon mount commanders to open fire without order from their respective Commanding Officers. The restraint shown by the US Navy in this encounter is the only reason this encounter did not end with dead people.
The real question is why would anyone be this provocative toward armed warships? The answer is buried not in the verbal diarrhea spewing out on this board but in the internal politics of Iran.
The ongoing struggle for a more secular state is a constant source of internal tension. The forces that provoked the US Navy appear to be associated with the “Guards” which is a politicized military that supports the religious hard-line government forces.
Why would they provoke the “Great Satan”? It was a win-win for them. If fired on, they could claim the US attacked them and use this for internal political gain against those who are pushing for talks with the Western World. If not fired on, they have demonstrated their strength and ability to push around the “Great Satan”, also something to be used for internal political gain.
Now why would the US publicize this event?
Not to start a war. The Gulf of Tonkin references aside, if the US wanted to start a war with the Iranians, this video would have ended with gunfire.
Go back to the original reason for the provocation, internal political gain. By publishing this incident, the US has given the moderates in Iran the information needed to call the hard-liners on their reckless behaviour. Publicizing this incident is part of how we (the US and Western World) work toward helping the moderates in Iran gain better control over the reckless hard-liners.
If you have a better explanation, I’m willing to listen.
Well…we ARE in THEIR part of the world. All the people on this post who are claiming that this was an attack on our national sovereignty are total idiots. If they had ships close to the States, don’t you think that the USCG or the Navy would blow them out of the water?!!! Can’t wait ’till next year when we don’t have a retard in office stirring up trouble around the world, unless we get Rudy (then we’re in even more trouble), but it looks like he’s losing badly in the primaries as he should. He can go back to making millions off of 911. Anyways, the video looks like a bunch of boats haulin’ but and probably joking around with the ships. I didn’t see any gun fire from the boats, so what’s the big deal? What? They appeared to have explosives like Saddam appeared to have WMDs? Ha Ha Ha!
Also, how does the audio continue several times w/out breaks through cut shots?
The video was obviously edited…
Yes and 9/11 was a GW’s fault and I hear he knew all about it.
Damm us here in the USA we cause all the worlds problems.
What are we thinking.
Zog-Slayer you ass, when the Cole blew up there were no weapons on that ship either, they were packed in the hull. Where do ya live Zog in the US? I tell you what since you hate the jewninted states so much, I will buy you a one way ticket to Iran and you can live and speek your mind over there. How about it.
God help us if most of you people that posted here really act the way and belive the way that you do.
Would you have rather waited until the speedboats became so close that they could have done damage, there is a protocall for this type of thing and it was being followed. Of course most of you would have been cheering if a ship was blown up.
I guess I’ve haphazardly statred my own Iranian terrorist navy in Lake Conroe, Texas. All you need is a small boat. Now Bush’s useless EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT, the DHS will have something to do. I think we have some left-over (yellow) bunt cake in the fridge that my girlfriend made, some Michael More dvds, we’re registered Democrats, and we appreciate Arabic culture. Holy $h!t, why is everyone so concerned about a few boats when there are freedom-hating non-patriotic liberal ‘terrorists’ like me in ‘thu homeland?’ This story is a total farse just like the questionability of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I can’t WAIT for the right-wing insecure ba$tards (who are the REAL Pu$$ies in our country) to finally get out of office so that the REAL PATRIOTS can fix this mess! Come on OBAMA!!!! Come on CLINTON!!! You can’t win soon enough!!!
The Gulf of Tonkin incident makes the government look far worse. The so-called conspiracy theorists were right all along. Newly declassified information came out just this week. What timing!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080108/pl_afp/usvietnamintelligence512_080108144532
But he said that probably the “most historically significant feature” of the declassified report was the retelling of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.
That was a reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers that helped lead to president Lyndon Johnson’s sharp escalation of American forces in Vietnam.
The author of the report “demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress, that the evidence of an attack was ‘unimpeachable,’ but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that ‘no attack happened that night,’” FAS said in a statement.
“What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It’s a dramatic reversal of the historical record,” Aftergood said.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident makes the government look far worse. The so-called conspiracy theorists were right all along. Newly declassified information came out just this week. What timing!
news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080108/pl_afp/usvietnamintelligence512_080108144532
But he said that probably the “most historically significant feature” of the declassified report was the retelling of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.
That was a reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers that helped lead to president Lyndon Johnson’s sharp escalation of American forces in Vietnam.
The author of the report “demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress, that the evidence of an attack was ‘unimpeachable,’ but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that ‘no attack happened that night,’” FAS said in a statement.
“What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It’s a dramatic reversal of the historical record,” Aftergood said.
SoCal Patriot writes Jan 8th, 2008 – 8:30 pm:
“You idiot, don’t you know that I’m a disabled War VET YOU MORON! Dont you know I was in the army or something! I served in Vietnam in 1977!â€
What’s so damn funny? IDIOT! You know how many gookies I took out in the war? PLENTY! And don’t even get me started on those Khmer Rogues, thieving PUNKS!
Everyone know I’m the only REAL Vet here! Inbred idiots! If it wasn’t for me, I’d be the only one that cared what I thought!
****************************************************************
So my man SoCal Patriot, and what were you doing in “Nam during the Carter administration?
LAME video, I see two, maybe three, boats at anytime…there’s no way to tell what country they’re from as this strait is so close to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, etc…paranoid bullshit- And even 3 months after we find out that Iran abandoned their nuclear aspirations 4 years ago.
PS- The NSA just released a new report pertaining to the Gulf of Tonkin incident!
Looks like fun! They should be wake-boarding. BYW the hull of each of those vessels is much larger than the missiles and torpedoes capable of sinking any ship. The Iranians were obviously testing boundaries and US Naval response. By showing thier presence just as President Bush is in Israel for Talks (much of which are about Iran), they are also making a statement that they are not afraid of the US. I also believe that they were secretly hoping for a shooting response from the ship group. (guided missile crusiers, destroyers and frigates are not the group to attack if you hope to win) If the Navy did not show restraint, the talks would have been overshadowed by what the Iranias would have spun.
This is proof that Navy career officers have vaginas. Admiral bull Halsey, what a blow does boat out of the water in when they got within 1000 yards. This does not make the US look kind, rather it does make us look like women.
EyesWideOpen, FYI (and you obviously need info)There are dozens of people shipboard whose job it is to be ready at a moments notice to take pictures and video of any incident that may develop. In fact if a low flying airplane approaching on radar is photographed dozens of time by several people.
This is done to identify the craft and provide proof of any encounter.
The Iranians staged this event to bring about exactly what has happened…you America hating leftists openly condemning the US and blaming the US when all the sailors did was show incredible restraint.
grow a spine.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA! Apparently, anybody with a fishing boat can be in the Iran Navy! I’m glad that situation didn’t erupt. They got a little too close for comfort…did you see where they were riding between the two US ships in their wake. Next time, blow them out of the water.
No one here has considered that elements in Iran’s gov’t might be “in on it”. Anybody remember Iran-Contra?
Wow revealing. Iran gunboats harrassing our Warships, Iran says video is fake, most of the usefull idiots believe Iran. Should have blown them out of the water and shown their bodies to the world. Simply amazing some of these total braindead, students no doubt, thinking the U.S. is at fault for even being there. Americans need to watch your back, these type of traitors will be the first to shoot you in the back.
Daniel, we are not Leftists, Rightists, Northists, nor Southist we are citizens that demand the TRUTH and not more LIES. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you appreciate the Truth or do you revel in the Untruth?
Reddawg, you’d say anything to kill someone with your deadly toys wouldn’t you? This is not a game.
THIS IS WHAT THE WAR IS ALL ABOUT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM
Daniel, we are not Leftists, Rightists, Northists, nor Southist we are citizens that demand the TRUTH and not more LIES. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you appreciate the Truth or do you revel in the Untruth?
Reddawg, you’d say anything to kill someone with your deadly toys wouldn’t you? This is not a game.
THIS IS WHAT THE WAR IS ALL ABOUT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM
Should’ve blown those crazy bastards right out of the water!
Would’ve been a perfect opportunity to show them that the world means business when it comes to terrorism.
I’m still sitting here dumbfounded that this country’s leadership is playing the wussy.
“SoCal Patriot”
Makes no sense…I thought everyone in Cali was a leftist coward America-hater.
This is really sad… I was gripped by the video, having grown up around the sea and lived on a boat, and married to a SWO Navy guy for 16 years. Some people here understand the heart of military people, some are obviously combat vets, a few are obviously Navy, but mostly, instead of this being a civilized forum discussing ideas and the current events (which are MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT than most posters here realize!) this whole thread has turned into a collective trash fest. Sounds like the people that spat on my friends and their children when Moveon.org started their first “peaceful” demonstration in San Diego in 2001. Thank you to those of you who have spoken up in favor of the integrity and honor of the men and women in uniform. Thank you to you Vets who have dared enter the fray of this thread. For those of you who do not approve of the military’s actions and those of our Commander-In-Chief, but have remained civil, thank you also for attempting to keep this thread constructive. For those people who have hijacked this whole event to posts diatribes that defy any common sense or logic : how disgusting !!! To think that it is for this kind of repugnant venom (right to free speech guaranteed under the Constitution, in case you need a reminder) that my friends risk their lives for ?!! I don’t believe for one minute that your very own mothers would ever have taught you to be THAT RUDE AND DISGUSTINGLY CRUDE!!! I hope you learn to tame your tongue/fingers in the future. May I recommend some counselling for you, so you can identify the true source of your anger, rather than misdirecting it towards a faceless group or organization. I hope you find healing from your relentless need to project your own issues unto anyone who does not coddle you or “fear your wrath”. If you act/post like angry children, you deserve to hear the truth about your childish behavior. Any good mother would tell you that you can do better than these ridiculous on-line temper tantrums. Now hopefully, we can all get back to the real topic, which is the behavior of these “little blue boats”.
These guys are dropping bombs in the water.
Alice D:
Yeah that website isn’t biased or carrying a “We hate isreal” agenda or anything.
I’m totally convinced now.
I am amazed at the control shown by the Navy. Any one of those boats could have closed in less than a minute and any one of those boats could have carried enough explosives to cause severe damage and death; irregardless of what they put in the water. If the Navy would have reacted as one would expect a warship to react, it would have been W’s fault and there would have been international investigations and tribunals set up to vilify the U.S.and it’s pesident. Clearly this was a set up; they knew precisely what they were doing. Iran can do this at will as they know whatever reaction they initiate from the U.S., they win. A win because Iran knows that they have close to half of the U.S. public (clearly obvious in this blog) and most of the western media on their side; always a mystery to me. The only thing that will wake the whole of the U.S. and the western world up is a massive, and devastating set back to our narcissistic comfort. I am older, but I fully expect that to happen in my lifetime.
“”Pentagon releases video of US Warships invading Iranian territory”
Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed America, your goverment is in control. Here, here’s American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up, go back to bed America, here is American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their skulls together and congratulate you on the living in the land of freedom. Here you go America – you are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
as a country we’re doomed.the LEFT sickens me.
the HATE for the military sickens me.you clowns would last 60 seconds on the streets of Iran or Iraq.
You’d be in a video yourself…turned sideways,feet and hands bound,with a man in black chanting alla akbar holding a knife at your throat sawing your head off.Good luck electing Obama or Hillary to be commander in chief…we’re finished.Thank you 1960’s.
Boghammar fast attack boats zipping in at any naval vessel is a provocation that should bring a deadly response. That the US crews held back, despite the many violations by the Iranians in the last few years, testifies to their professionalism.
That so many on this blog blither about their conspiracy/Halliburtonesque/”it was nothing” mindset shows that willful ignorance, blinding hatred and chosen lack of awareness runs rampant among far too many people who should be adults and know better.
Anyone saying this is not provocative is either so liberal they refuse to accept anything threating from the Middle East or just dumb. That is real effing close to the US ships and they don’t exactly just drive by and keep going…they circle around and taunt the ships. Come on people it’s not Lake Havasu during spring break, those are Iranian Guards (Terrorists)approaching a WARSHIP. And if you’ve been paying any attention to Iranian politics, there is a threat of internal discontent for their so called President. This seems like a planned attempt to get the US to attack Iran so that the country unites against the US. You might say that is quite a stretch, but the Iranian president would like nothing more than to lead a war against the US being that is his only chance to save his reputation after he sank his country into such great inflation. I would ignore the most recent intellegence report…There is a mad man in Iran that is starting to have less and less to loose by doing something crazy.
I proudly consider myself to be a liberal/progressive. I understand the chain of command in the military, but it seems strange to me that 30+ minutes were required for these ships to start defending themselves when they apparently were in imminent danger of attack.
Call me Admiral Farragut, but If I’d been in the CIC of one of those ships, there would have been five little oil slicks in the Strait of Hormuz.
Seems that the IRG naval forces were testing the USN and that their dry run was unfortunately successful.
You Bush haters make me sick. If you love Iran so much, please go there!
Honestly this doesn’t really concern me. I grew up on Ohio and our biggest enemy is Michigan. Iran is 4700 miles away.
Cooler heads must prevail here. Let’s look at the facts:
1. The Gulf of Tonkin was a faked attack on a US ship in international waters. It had no film footage available.
2. GWB threatened Iran with WWIII if they did not stop pursuing a nuclear weapons programme.
3. The NIE report comes out and says that Iran suspended Nuclear Weapons development in 2003.
4. A concerted effort goes out to defame one of the authors of the NIE estimate as being biased against GWB which is unsuccessful in the court of public opinion, considering how many people in high places have to sign off on the NIE bfore it is released.
5. The complete video did not come out the same day the incident was reported.
6. With real-time editing on a laptop, there is still no reason for the delay in seeing the video with accompanying synchronised audio if it was authentic.
7. CGI is used every day in Hollywood to fake life-like events for big budget movies, but it takes time to render such video.
Considering the small amount of footage released that did not even cover all the events described in the report and with no audio, this may be a high tech Gulf of Tonkin-type faked incident. IF this was such a threat as the USS Cole, why did the Navy not defend itself against “impending doom” and destroy the boats? Why do the boats in the video not match the description of Iranian Revolutionary Guard patrol boats? Why were none of the deployed boxes retrieved by the US Navy to use as evidence of the incident?
Something seems very fishy with this incident and the US Government has squandered the post 9/11 good will of the people in believing everything it says.
I see no “mounted machine guns” or “bearing Iranian flags” on any of those boats.
And five?
This event has an eerie resemblance to the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Later on we found that we were duped into a war in Vietnam based on similar “tauntings” and BS reports that we were attacked, which later proved to be false.
Read history. This is just like it. They’re trying to do everything they can to get us into a war with Iran.
I know you all won’t agree, because you all feel that this is either a verbal slugfest, or an after hours Rush Limbaugh forum, but that’s the truth.
No one can deny that our government has lied to us to move forward with their agenda. This is the next step. Before you know it, we’ll have 80 unresolved conflicts around the world, and America will resort to calling it’s own people terrorists and launching “citizen check” campaigns.
Respect the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and all the amendments. Enjoy the constitution, instead of putting it in a paper shredder.
Well said Allen L. Its astonishing that these uneducated and /or misinformed folks posting here actually defend the Iranians. What a joke. Go to Iran.
I suggested .50 cal just to sink them not destroy them.
The part of the event that may have been faked is the supposed voice-over radio transmission that says “you will explode in a few minutes”. The Pentagon is now saying the radio transmission may have come from the shore, and not one of the boats. There are a number of intelligence agencies that want to see the US attack Iran. Israel and Saudia Arabia are among the countries. Parts of the US intelligence apparatus wants the attack to happen to (the neoconservatives are quite out of control). Signal intelligence operatives from any of those agencies could have broadcast the message just as Iranian boats were passing the US vessels. That is a very logical explanation, and it accounts for the fact that the Pentagon now admits the voice may have been transmitted from the shore, and it also accounts for the fact that there is no background boat engine noise behind the ‘voice’.
Look out guys, all of the Iranian Navy is coming after you! Blow your horn!
But seriously, these guys could be just a couple of speed boaters looking for trouble.
Did they catch them? Mounted Machine guns like the liberal media first said? Please think about it folks, if they wanted to ram those speed boats into those warships those boaters would have. Instead it looks like they were just pestering them.
Yes it’s a dangerous place and I commend the Navy for not causing WWIII by not blowing those ships out of the water. I despise, however, the politicians at home and the media that try to benefit from our brave heroes overseas.
If we DO end up going into Iran to invade them in retaliation at least let’s hope our congress follows the constitution and put it up to a vote unlike what was done in Iraq.
You cannot win a war without a goal, just retalliation, and the people’s voice. Let’s keep this in perspective, if Iranians did in fact attack our ships I as a Ron Paul supporter will be full in support of attacking Iran because it would be just retalliation.
However, Iraq did nothing to us but buy our weapons. The real criminals we should be going after are the Saudi Arabians.
Thomas Hayne said, “You Bush haters make me sick. If you love Iran so much, please go there!”
Thomas — would you be calling us Lyndon B. Johnson haters if we pointed out that the Pentagon FAKED details about a non-existent attack on a US ship in order to fool the public into supporting the Vietnam war? I can just see idiots like you circa mid-1960’s throwing around the words “Johnson haters, and ‘conspiracy theorists’”, when in fact the government did indeed fake the event. You would be saying, “the sailors on that ship wouldn’t lie, so the attack must be true!!!” You’d scream that at the top of your lungs. And then, 40 YEARS later, you get to find out that you were WRONG! The US government DID FAKE THE Gulf of Tonkin EVENT!!!
The Gulf of Tonkin incident makes the government look far worse. The so-called conspiracy theorists were right all along. Newly declassified information came out just this week. What timing!
From Yahoo news:
—–
Steven Aftergood, director of the FAS project on government secrecy, told AFP:
He said that probably the “most historically significant feature” of the declassified report was the retelling of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.
That was a reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers that helped lead to president Lyndon Johnson’s sharp escalation of American forces in Vietnam.
The author of the report “demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress, that the evidence of an attack was ‘unimpeachable,’ but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that ‘no attack happened that night,’” FAS said in a statement.
“What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It’s a dramatic reversal of the historical record,” Aftergood said.
—
Those people in the boats are lucky to be alive. Our Navy showed great restraint in not blowing them out of the water. Even small craft can not be allowed to get that close to our warships. There are too many lives at stake to risk it.
Frank..Not buying it this time? What, what you don’t believe that the Islamic Facists view they’re country as Islam and as a core princple believe that it is a calling from God to kill non-believers, but rather George Bush and Dick Chaney arranged this all to get rich on oil. You fool.
auto writes January 9th, 2008 – 6:00 pm:
“â€Pentagon releases video of US Warships invading Iranian territoryâ€
*****************************************************************
Iranian territory? Hardly, better make that international waters. Even the Iranians don’t back up your comment.
As far as I’m concerned, blow the morons out of the water but it is laughable to say that three speed boats threatened the largest navy in the world. Bush and the neocons are once again hyping this up like they did with WMD.
Luke writes January 9th, 2008 – 8:34 pm:
…..This event has an eerie resemblance to the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Later on we found that we were duped into a war in Vietnam based on similar “tauntings†and BS reports that we were attacked, which later proved to be false………
*****************************************************************
Luke, it strikes me the incident can also be compared to the USS Cole incident, but I suppose a lot of the BDS crowd also blame that on Bush/Cheney.
Free speech, man-o-man, what a plethora of crap we have to tolerate to enjoy it!
People say “Iran has the fourth largest army in the world”. Yeah, maybe, but you know what, after the first 3 largest armies, there’s a REAL big drop-off. The Hare Krishnas are the 5th largest army in the world, and they’ve already got all our airports.
If our ships our so worried about boats traveling in their vicinity maybe they shouldn’t be in the Strait of Hormuz! If there were Chinese warships in the Gulf of Mexico do you think they’d be ‘taunted’? They would be destroyed.
I spent 10 years active duty in the Navy, and don’t you know we always carried around extra high-speed boats to make fake videos to hang bogus charges on other countries just in case we needed them. Are you guys idiots or what!??! I read in one of these someone said I’m not buying it. Buying what??? We didn’t fire on them. We didn’t ram them. We were allowed to be there…..International Waters stupid. This is not the Gulf of Tonkin and nobody fired! We didn’t fire at them or them at us. We aren’t going into Iran today do all of you right wing conspiracy US haters need to shut up. Once again nothing happened. All of you experts out there…have you ever seen an Iranian Boghammer bearing down on you at high speed? I doubt it. I have as I was in the gulf during the Iraq-Iran conflict. They did agressive runs at us then also, even tho we were not in Iranian territorial waters. Check your facts about everything…both sides, not just yours and then comment. If you can’t comment on fact then don’t comment at all.
Yep, those cigarette boats were threatening all right. Maybe Iran has Saddams WMD hidden in those boats or something like that. This Means War…Remember the Maine!
There is no “Iran” or “Iraq” or even something called “Middle East”. I have looked all over the city I live in they just aren’t anywhere. No one I know of has ever seen any of them either. They don’t exist! It’s all part of the vast right-wing conspiracy to raise the price of oil and spread Global Warming and the American Empire throughout the world. Bad Republicans! Filthy “neocons”! The only solution is to elect a democRat as president. Only a democRat can solve all the world’s problems. Only a democRat can bring everlasting peace to the entire world. Only a democRat can keep us healthy with “free” health care for all. Only a democRat can save the world’s climate from the behavior of the bad Republicans because (as everyone knows) Liberals are “enlightened” and “progressive”.
We as merely another of Mother Earth’s species of animals are helpless without our brave and hard-taxing democRats working on our behalf to save us from ourselves. When it’s your turn to vote, don’t vote for America – vote for the Global Community, vote democRat and vote often!
I’m Hillary Hussein Obama bin Klinton and I approve this message.
I am contradicting my own thoughts as I write on this again, but the ignorant rants of what I can only assume are leftist liberals are infurriating. I agree that these comments should be taken with a grain of salt since we are all amateurs at best, but the lack of insight from some of these anti-Bush writters needs to be adressed. What about international waters don’t you understand, if anything its Iran that wants the war not the US, and most importantly neither Obama, Hillary or any othe democrat has what it takes to lead this country.
1. How do they know they were Iranians? Did they identify themselves as Iranians?
How do they know they weren’t some drunk kids out for a joy ride in their oil sheik daddy’s boats?
2. Did they moon the ships? Now that would be funny. Reminded me of French castle scene in Monty Python And The Holy Grail (”I faht in your jjeneral directioooonnn!”) :-D
You want to defend Iran? Move there. Then again, they’ll probably take over soon since most people seem to hate the country they live in because they have been miseducated / misinformed. You lefty’s are complete idiots.
I’m glad that the people that are supporting this war, bush, and think that we have the right to invade whoever we want – resort (in their infinite class and wisdom) to calling people that don’t agree with their view:
retards
inbred
idiots
morons
etc.
If you’re that close minded, you should really take a look at your position, the fact that you will defend Bush to your grave, and realize he doesn’t give a crap about you. Under Bush, anyone in the middle class has had to work harder for less money (thanks to the looting of our treasury to finance an illegal war), I’ve had personal friends come back from a war saying “why are we there?” – and worse yet, coming home missing limbs.
Let’s not repeat the same mistake, and spread ourselves out even thinner, by invading Iran. We have more loose ends on a strategic front than a Nevada brothel, and we don’t need to commit anymore for corporate interests. This isn’t about freedom in the middle east, because we’re breaking laws over there faster than American consultants can write them.
Knowing this administration, the invading force for this Iran conflict will be Mercenaries, financed by the taxpayer, that are above the law, and can kill anyone they please. Don’t say they don’t, because I know soldiers that have told me they have seen it happen, all while the jerks are making huge sums of money to do so.
I guess this comment means that I’m sole handedly responsible for the downfall of the USA. No, I guess we don’t need a reality check at all. Just keep shopping and listening to morons on the radio…
to Santa (seriously??):
are you really that dc comics character ‘the question’ in disguise, ’cause your theories are just silly. there is perfect reason for the delay – as it was shot by a sworn sailor in the us navy, he is not just gonna run and post on you tube. second, there is plenty of chatter in the back round – i am sure he was seen recording and was ordered to turn over the ‘footage’ to be sure no secure information was inadvertently recorded.
the ease at which people say this was faked amazes me to no end. iran is a nation whose president has used violent, genocidal language in his speeches about his neighbors. why is it so easy to believe the iranian navy would not do something like this.
honestly, i bet it was just some knuckle heads acting silly for fun.
for those who think this was no big deal remember the uss cole – 17 lost their lives to that suicide attack. the ship used then was probably the same class seen in this incident. also, it does’nt take much to line up a shoulder fired missile, or rpg type weapon. no it would not sink a vessel of this size, but it could due damage and cause deaths. yes the ’speedboats’ would have been on the receiving end of 40mm high velocity cannon rounds and then some had such activity been spotted.
If it was my decision, I would have fired a few rounds over their heads just to get their attention. If they made any further move toward the ship, they would be toast. In that situation in that part of the country you can never assume anything. Toast em…end of story.
A few facts for the fools on this Blog. As a former crewman of a US Navy warship 30 years ago the following is true and inescapable.
1) There are established navigation rules for passing through the Strait of Hormuz that all parties have agreed to. The US Navy ships complied with those rules, the unknown speed boats did not. There are also established Rules of Engagement for our side, those were followed to the letter. Next time, the rules will be different.
2) To the Captain and crew of those ships who is in control of those boats, where they came from and what they may be carrying are all irrelevant. The safety of the ship and crew is what matters. The Iranians did not say the incident did not happen BTW. This isn’t the first time the Iranians have violated international law in this area or committed aggression against Allied naval forces in the Gulf. How many times in the last year have Iranians committed such acts against British and American forces? Three that have been reported. The Iranian Navy would be gone in an hour if we wanted it. This not a game.
3) Contrary to the comments of some, those blobs were not far away and were shown just off the prop wash of the trailing Frigate several times. From that distance to the side of the ship is a few seconds. A 50+ knot speed boat loaded with a 1000 lb warhead (4 over fed liberal college students in weight) will have the same impact as a Tomahawk cruise missile. The warhead in the Cole attack was half or less that size.
4) If you conduct similar maneuvers in US waters in your private speedboat against same warships you will be arrested, fined and probably locked away for some time. If you close on said warship at high speed and ignore all warnings (visual, audio, etc) you will be fired upon at some point. Don’t believe me? Try it.
5) The Captain of this US force showed exceptional restraint. That comes from a disciplined mind not one filled with a void between the ears as many of the fools on this Blog have. The next such act by such unknown blobs or alike will result in debris in the water and loss of life. There are a thousand people on those three ships who say it happened. They don’t pay them enough to lie about something this dangerous.
6) Name calling doesn’t win wars. Fools resort to name calling when they can’t win with rational thought. The people serving on those ships would respectfully beat you to within an inch of your life for the shear idiots you represent. You need to back off the “dope†and go live in one of these fun filled places you have so much admiration for. The first thing the Iranians would do with most of you is strap a bomb to your chest, put you in a nice speed boat and tell you to go out and mess with the US Navy or they would kill you after having you watch them kill every person you ever cared about. This stuff is for real and it does happen little boys and girls every day.
7) One Gulf of Tonkin does not make the rest of the world’s events one large US conspiracy theory from then on.
You can’t be serious? Do you think this is faked? First off this is an amateur video taken by a sailor on the bridge, second off this happened in the Strait of Hormuz, if you bothered to pay attention in geogrpahy class and knew anything you’d realize you have to follow strict guidlines while transiting in and out, that is why you saw the second US ship behind the first US ship (the one taking the video) There is hardly any maneurvering (spell) ability because you have really really big tankers also transiting, look at a map and you can see we are talking about a narrow body of water. You saw a snippet of what occurred. To be honest the crews showed great restraint in NOT firing, no skipper wants to have a USS Cole happen to them. So wake up and pick a side and stop complaining this is real and your “perfect” little world won’t last until you take a stand.
Very good comments Thom and right on the nose. Personally, I have to blame our Navy for one little thing: They should have blown those speed boats out of the water. Did they forget what happened to the USS Cole? As my Uncle used to say, who was on the USS Nelson during WWII: Sometimes shooting first and asking questions later is a good policy if you want to stay alive.
I own the U.S. Navy an apology. I just read from another news source that the reason why the Iranian speed boats retreated was because the Navy was about to open fire. The article that I read early did not mention this important note. To the men and women of the U.S. Navy, I apologize for my earlier statements about not blowing up the speed boats or forgetting what happened to the USS Cole.
(Comment not necessarily specific to the topic at hand)
Would you bed-wetting chicken-crap idiots (you know who you are) shut your pie-holes unless you have EXPERIENCE.
ALPHA SIERRA/ALPHA XRAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
Daniel, we are not Leftists, Rightists, Northists, nor Southist we are citizens that demand the TRUTH and not more LIES. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you appreciate the Truth or do you revel in the Untruth?
Reddawg, you’d say anything to kill someone with your deadly toys wouldn’t you? This is not a game.
THIS IS WHAT THE WAR IS ALL ABOUT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM
Those of you who think the event is an American hoax are either just plain idiots, terrorists yourselves, or terrorist supporters.
Pick one, scumbags.
Fading Captain: “Honestly this doesn’t really concern me. I grew up on Ohio and our biggest enemy is Michigan. Iran is 4700 miles away.”
Are you REALLY that stupid?
I’ll bet anything they had nukes on those speedboats…
“Go away before I taunt you again!” :-D
Tonkin was at night and our radar was not what it is today. Perhaps they shot at ghosts that night. My father-in-law flew missions in laos (we were not fighting in that neutral country)spotting NVC (not there either) supply lines. Since it was a secret CIA mission, they were never given the credit due to them. They lost more pilots than any other branch. (bat21 with gene hackman) Talk alot about things we are not 100% sure of yet the conspiracy lives on.
Iran was smart enough to stay outside the wake but dumb enough to joyride that close. We should have taken them out since it was international waters. What is not being said and that Iran denied the claims makes it all more real and true. Wonder what the boxes were and what was in them. I am sure they just threw empty boxes to freak out the captain. Anyone who really thinks this was a set up is a Moron
G00ns:
“Wow, what menacing little speedboats in international waters, where anyone can pretty much do what they like, since it’S international waters, not american.”
You think that because boats are in international waters that they can get a s close to Navy ships as they want without repercussions? Thank you for proving that you’re an idiot.
t.e.demalet”
“And some sailor just happened to be on deck with a video camera? And distributing footage of an international incident is OK without approval from superior officers? Hey, thanks for the laugh!”
Look at the title of this thread, idiot. The Pentagon released the footage, not some sailor, on his own. You must be related to that inbred retard G00ns.
spjon:
“So my man SoCal Patriot, and what were you doing in “Nam during the Carter administration?”
You’re not even smart for a retard. *I* didn’t make that post, it was made by another retard, trying to fool other retards, like you. He even admitted it, later, moron: “I actually didn’t watch the entire video, but I saw multiple posts (not yours, technically) calling people inbreds. I assumed these were all yours, but as of current, I have realized they are not. My apologies.
By the way, I actually am a kid. I just needed something to occupy me.”
These kids today…
Ron “the racist†Paul Exposed:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php
“A damning New Republic expose on Ron Paul shows the “libertarian†Republican candidate to be a racist, a homophobe and an anti-Semite. Will his diehard supporters continue to defend a man who called Martin Luther King a gay pedophile? Daniel Koffler, a former Paul sympathizer, has a compendium of the Texas congressman’s creepiest hits, pulled straight from his decades-old newsletter.
[Read “Ron Paul Statement on The New Republic Article Regarding Old Newsletters†@ Ron Paul campaign’s website]
Support Pajamas Media; Visit Our Advertisers
by Daniel Koffler
James Kirchick of the New Republic has a devastating piece on Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) online today on the TNR website. Kirchick provides a meticulously detailed history of the “Ron Paul Political Report,†a newsletter Paul had circulated to a network of some 7,000 subscribers from the late 80s and early 90s.
As Kirchick reports—whether describing post-apartheid South Africa as a “destruction of civilization,†alleging that Martin Luther King “seduced underage girls and boys,†warning of “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise,†or urging white readers to arm themselves after “the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,â€â€”virtually every historic trope of racism, anti-Semitism, anti-gay bigotry, or conspiracy theorizing has been featured in the “Ron Paul Political Report†in one way or another. For his part, Paul has alternately acknowledged writing some of the material that went out under his name, only to deny authorship when confronted with the most disturbing details. In any case, Paul has taken “moral responsibility†for the contents of the “Ron Paul Political Report.†What follows is a quick digest of some of his greatest, which is to say most disgraceful, hits.
I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.â€
It makes him unelectable and the polls agree:
Daily National Republican Presidential Nomination Poll:
Huckabee 22%
John McCain 19%
Mitt Romney 19%
Fred Thompson 12%
Rudy Giuliani at 9%
Ron Paul attracts 3% support
3%, for good reasons…
WE ARE ONE THE CLEVEREST NATIONS OF THE WORLD.PLS,THINK HOW WE CAN ATTACK 3 WAR SHIP WITH 5 SMALL BOATS.WE ARE NOT CRAZY.
SO WHAT DID REALLY HAPPEN?
I THINK IT IS ANOTHER AMERICAN SHOWS.
REMEMBER 1109
WHAT WAS THE REALITY?…
“helo.”
Sure NEMO, we believe you…
Nemo, do you really honestly believe you? Do you know what happened to the USS Cole back in 2000? The Destroyer class ship was attacked and damaged by suicide bombers using a small inflatable boat. The attack killed 17 sailors.
A small inflatable boat. Certainly nothing compared to the three speedboats and look at the damage that inflatable boat did.
Eric, I think i saw you post on another website denying this story and saying that a video would never actually come to light. Well, it did, and you still doubt it. MAYBE THE BOXES SANK.
Next time, try not to believe everything you read.
Those comments written in Ron Paul’s newsletter – 30 years ago – were not written by him, but by an employee who was promptly fired.
Here is what Kirchick has to say about himself, from an e-mail he sent:
“I don’t think Ron Paul is a homophobe; I’m just cynical and enjoy getting supporters of political candidates riled up. If you were a Giuliani guy I’d have called him a fascist.”
Ron Paul’s position (from here: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124281.html )
reason: Do you have any response to The New Republic’s article about your newsletters?
Ron Paul: All it is–it’s old stuff. It’s all been rehashed. It’s all political stuff.
reason: Why don’t you release all the old letters?
Paul: I don’t even have copies of them, because it’s ancient history.
reason: Do you stand by what appears in the letters? Did you write these…?
Paul: No. I’ve discussed all of that in the past. It’s just old news.
reason: Did the New Republic talk to you before they ran it?
Paul: No, I never talked to them.
reason: What do you think of Martin Luther King?
Paul: Martin Luther King is one of my heroes because he believed in nonviolence and that’s a libertarian principle. Rosa Parks is the same way. Gandhi, I admire. Because they’re willing to take on the government, they were willing to take on bad laws. So I believe in civil disobedience if you understand the consequences. Martin Luther King was a great person because he did that and he changed America for the better because of that.
reason: You didn’t write the derogatory things about him in the letter?
Paul: No.
“WHAT WAS THE REALITY?”
The reality is, I don’t even believe that you are who you *pretend* to be. Some children just need attention, even if it’s negative.
These kids today…
“Fools resort to name calling…”
Unless you do it?
Names are often accurate adjectives too, retard.
See? :D
helo.
i am iranian.
down with akhond.
bush very very good men
he is the best president .
help me .AKHOND VERY BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
akhond = hitler= diktator
This new evidence from the spokeperson of the US 5th Fleet is striking, and extremely important. Now we are told that the US 5th Fleet vessels can not even tell were the voices came from that said, “We are coming to you, you will explode in a few minutes….
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4115702&page=1
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a ‘False Flag’ event. If the Navy doesn’t know where the voices are coming from, then something truly strange occured. Also, it is important to note, that the voices were spoken in English, so to say this had to be Iranians, instead of anyone group of terrorists to include pirates or any nation state from just looking at bright blue boats is amazing.
The Navy said, maybe the voices came from shore, if so then the three US vessels were in Iranian controlled waters, if they were that close to shore, where audio can be projected out that far.
The Navy say it may have come from another ship nearby, what ship? another odd question. At first they detail five speed boats, and now maybe a sixth unidentified ship, what?
Something very strange occured, and even the Navy can’t explain it, it seems to me that a false flag was designed, but now the question is, where did the voices come from, a rogue sub, a UAV, what?
heres the story
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4115702&page=1
“…were not written by him, but by an employee who was promptly fired.”
It wasn’t a one-time deal, these things went on over a period of years. You can believe his lies, I wont and neither will America.
Promptly, my eye, he wrote them himself and now regrets it.
Ron “the racist” Paul is unelectable…
“This new evidence…”
You are still an idiot. That’s not new news and it doesn’t matter either way, they’ve said that from the beginning. I even posted a link to it, retard.
However, U.S. military officials, including Cosgriff, said they have not been able to definitively connect the radio call with one of the Revolutionary Guards boats.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080108/D8U1UNM80.html
(dated 2 days ago…)
“The ships were close enough to shore that the call could have come from a shore station, it could have come from another boat,” said Cdr. Lydia Robertson, the 5th Fleet spokeswoman. “But the call did happen while the small boats were there.”
Pull your head out, you POS…
The Navy said that in December they fired warning shots at Iranian vessels. That sounds more like it.
“The Navy said that in December they fired warning shots at Iranian vessels.”
What does December have to do with this incident other than showing a patter of Iranian instigation and provocative behavior? If they try it again, they should be destroyed.
Post a Comment
|
|||||||||||||||
 |
|
||||||||||||||
|
|||||||||||||||
Ok, so where are the ‘white boxes’ that the US says the Iranian boats dropped? Where are the explosives on the Iranian boats that the US says were present? Where is the full audio recording of the threat to ‘blow up’ the US ships as the Pentagon says happened? The boats in the above video are a large distance away, they hardly seem to be swarming the destroyer. Is this the full set of video and audio released?? Is there more to come?