Israel Rejects International Pressure to Suspend Air Assault on Gaza

"Giving Hamas a respite just to regroup, rearm is a mistake. The pressure on the Hamas military machine must continue."

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December 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm - MSNBC
Dateline: Gaza City, Gaza Strip
R.J.   December 31st, 2008 - 12:41 pm

Can anyone explain how killing over 400 children, women and elderly civilians will solve the Hamas problem? Why after 61 years, can’t the world realize that Israel is the problem? They should not be allowed to start WWIII. The Jews should not be allowed to treat the Palestinians the way the Nazis treated the Jews. The United Nations made a mistake in 1948, and should correct it NOW!

SA   December 31st, 2008 - 12:41 pm

Israel needs to do whatever it needs to do to destroy Hamas.

Don’t bow to international pressure. Keep going until those terrorists are destroyed.

Would any other country allow terrorists to shoot rockets at their people? Of course not! If this happened in the United States we’d nuke them. And for all of you who will say that innocent civilians are being killed by Israel…yeah, that’s the price the Palestinans are paying for allowing Hamas to exist AND to purposefully use women and children as their shields. They purposefully locate their operations in residential neighborhoods. I hope Israel gets every single one of those terrorists. Maybe then the world will stand up to these terrorists.

revhatchell   December 31st, 2008 - 1:14 pm

we pay for this.

we will pay more.

this was allowed by bush during a 3 week power vacuum.

arrest bush/cheney

Terry   December 31st, 2008 - 1:45 pm

Israeli was based on terrorism from the get-go. Google “king david hotel” and the “irgun.” Israel has caused problems since they were created by the UN and rejected a Palestinian homeland. We get nothing out of our special relationship with Israel other than more enemies. We lose billions to these parasites and they have hijacked our foreign policy for THEIR ends. Every Israeli citizen should be deported from the US. The whole world wonders why we allow these parasites to control us.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 1:46 pm

“Giving Hamas a respite just to regroup, rearm is a mistake. The pressure on the Hamas military machine must continue.”

Yeh, the Hamas military machine = a few bottle rockets and trash can lids up against a bunch of crazy jews fighting with the best weapons U.S. taxpayers can give them.

I see Hamas just legalized crucifixions. Let’s see how the jews like the same fate that they bestowed on Jesus! I’m sure they will howl that it is anti-semetic!

They shouldn’t worry though since they are “the chosen people”. They will just get down off that cross, be handed another gun and plug a few more Arab kids in the head. What scum !!

Robespierre   December 31st, 2008 - 2:02 pm

Wouldn’t it just simple to kill every muslim ?
Then the world wouldn’t have to put up with this crap .

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 2:08 pm

One needs to go back much further than the American Revolution to understand what is going on in the Middle East. Hamas was made by the MOSSAD and with funding from this country. Imagine if you will, God, Jesus Christ and Satan, all in the same room together watching the bombing of the people in Palastine and the Gaza Strip. Now when all three of them see that innnocent babies, children, women and men are being slaughtered by what you beleive are the chosen people of God, which of these three are jumping up and down with joy and great exuberance? I’ll give you 3 guesses and the 1st 2 do not count. the average American has been brainwashed about Israel and believing they have the right to kill as they please. You then are suggesting that the message that Jesus Christ brought to this world was wrong which would then express to the world that God is wrong. Can I get an Amen from those Modern Day Chrisitans (MDC) out there?!

Oxnard Montalvo   December 31st, 2008 - 2:09 pm

Glad to see the blame Israel pinheads are present and accounted for.

Don’t shoot the messenger said “Yeh, the Hamas military machine = a few bottle rockets and trash can lids up against a bunch of crazy jews fighting with the best weapons U.S. taxpayers can give them.”

If that is the case then wouldn’t it be a good idea to stop firing “bottle rockets” at a country than can wipe you off the face in the blink of an eye? Well pinhead wouldn’t it?

Terry   December 31st, 2008 - 2:29 pm

Oxnard Montalvo December 31st, 2008 – 2:09 pm

“If that is the case then wouldn’t it be a good idea to stop firing “bottle rockets” at a country than can wipe you off the face in the blink of an eye? Well pinhead wouldn’t it?”

Well, if your conclusion is wrong, check your premises. Indeed, it doesn’t make sense. Israel is the only one who benefits from these rocket attacks that conveniently do little harm. When the Lebanese recaptured their country from the Israeli invaders recently, they found rockets pointing back at Israel. Mossad is firing those rockets – or they were initially to get the “ball rolling.” Who benefits? Israel.

Other   December 31st, 2008 - 2:31 pm

“Terry December 31st, 2008 – 1:45 pm

Israeli was based on terrorism from the get-go. Google “king david hotel” and the “irgun.” Israel has caused problems since they were created by the UN and rejected a Palestinian homeland.”

There was never a nation called Palestine and they were originally kicked out by Jordan. Blame Jordan.

Other   December 31st, 2008 - 2:33 pm

“RB December 31st, 2008 – 2:08 pm

One needs to go back much further than the American Revolution to understand what is going on in the Middle East. Hamas was made by the MOSSAD and with funding from this country. ”

…and credibility goes out the window….

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Oxnard Montalvo   December 31st, 2008 - 2:46 pm

Terry you’re an idiot. So the rockets are a “Mossaad operation”? Where do you get your (mis)-information? Any other idiotic conspiracies you want to trot out?

WWYD   December 31st, 2008 - 2:49 pm

What Would You Do if someone had been firing explosive rockets into your home for a year or more.

I suspect the same thing the Israelis are doing and that is wiping them out. There would be no problem if they were not firing rockets into Israel. Amazing they went this long without responding. You Obammybots need to move to Israel for a year and see how you like it.

I see a lot of neo-nazi comments here. You need to go back to your website natall dot com where you have a home.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 2:50 pm

by Ran HaCohen

Defense Minister Ehud Barak (the Hebrew surname means “lightning,” German “Blitz”) did it again: a historic record of over 200 Palestinians killed in a single Sabbath’s blitz (Dec. 27). Polls now predict five additional Knesset seats for his Labor Party in the coming February general election. That’s 40 Palestinian corpses per seat. No wonder he promises it’s just the beginning: at this pace, it will take Labor just about two thousand additional corpses to go from rags to riches, from a dead political party to an absolute majority in parliament like in the good old days. For Barak, then, the Gaza obituaries are a matter of political survival: they are pasted up on his party’s obituary. A similar sickening logic sent former Prime Minister Shimon Peres (Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, etc., etc.) back in 1996 to devastate southern Lebanon and solve the problem of Hezbollah once-and-for-all in Operation Grapes of Wrath, just weeks before the general election – in which he was defeated by Netanyahu. When the so-called doves behave like hawks, the voters prefer the real hawks, following the Talmudic saying “Whatever looks like an egg, a true egg is always better.” But warriors like Barak never learn.

And they are not alone in that: just two days before the pounding of Gaza started, it was the allegedly “left-liberal” party Meretz that officially called for military action against Hamas. You know Meretz: the party of (Frankfurt Peace Prize Laureate, etc., etc.) Amos Oz and his ilk, those pseudo-intellectuals who always claim to have been against the previous war. No exception this time: they’re all there, right behind the bombers, or even ahead of them.

Fred   December 31st, 2008 - 2:55 pm

==>>
Both Iran and its Hamas proxy in Gaza have been busy this Christmas week showing Christendom just what they think of it. But no one seems to have noticed.

On Tuesday, Hamas legislators marked the Christmas season by passing a Shari’a criminal code for the Palestinian Authority. Among other things, it legalizes crucifixion.

Hamas’s endorsement of nailing enemies of Islam to crosses came at the same time it renewed its jihad. Here, too, Hamas wanted to make sure that Christians didn’t feel neglected as its fighters launched missiles at Jewish day care centers and schools. So on Wednesday, Hamas lobbed a mortar shell at the Erez crossing point into Israel just as a group of Gazan Christians were standing on line waiting to travel to Bethlehem for Christmas.

================================
People think that it is possible to have a sincere negotiation with Hamas?

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 2:57 pm

^^^^^^^^^

Another scummy jew story. Our friends !!!

Other   December 31st, 2008 - 2:58 pm

Sadly, UN pressure will force Isreal to stop before they finish the job. Then Hamas will re-arm and start the attacks again.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 3:05 pm

Over 200 corpses lying in open air behind Gaza’s hospital, which – after more than a year of Israel’s blockade – cannot offer patients anything but painkillers anyway. Guess what was the headline of Israel’s most popular daily, Yediot Ahronoth, the next day. “One and a Half Million Gazans Under Fire”? Close, but no cigar. The actual headline (Dec. 28) read: “Half a Million Israelis Under Fire.” Indeed, a single Israeli civilian had been killed that day by a Hamas rocket.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 3:08 pm

““““`Other

Yeh, more bottle rockets and trash can lids. You are a fool therefore probably a zionist jew or an evangelical Christian !

R.J.   December 31st, 2008 - 3:09 pm

“Wouldn’t it just simple to kill every muslim ?
Then the world wouldn’t have to put up with this crap .”

THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE NEW NAZIS, THE JEWS.

Jack Kennedy   December 31st, 2008 - 3:10 pm

BOMB THE MUSLIMS BACK TO THE STONE AGE

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 3:13 pm

^^^^^^^^ See link

You are going to read the truth above whether you want to or not. Or are you scared of the truth ??

Other   December 31st, 2008 - 3:23 pm

“Don’t shoot the Messenger December 31st, 2008 – 3:05 pm

Over 200 corpses lying in open air behind Gaza’s hospital, which – after more than a year of Israel’s blockade – cannot offer patients anything but painkillers anyway.”
What about Egypts blockade? They closed tgheir borders with Gaza

Anonymous   December 31st, 2008 - 4:06 pm

Hamas Issues New Shari’a Criminal Code For Non-Muslims: Crucifixion……
http://wcgfairfield.blogspot.com/2008/12/hamas-issues-new-sharia-criminal-code.html

navy65   December 31st, 2008 - 4:19 pm

revhatchell your an idiot!
Don’t shoot the Messenger Don’t you think that Hamas would kill every Jew if they could.
Thank God they only have toys to play with.
When will Hamas quit rocketing Israel?
They have asked for everything they have recieved.
Just let people live in peace!
Stop starting this crap.

Terry   December 31st, 2008 - 4:41 pm

WWYD December 31st, 2008 – 2:49 pm

“What Would You Do if someone had been firing explosive rockets into your home for a year or more.”

What would you do if a group took over your land because their religious texts said it was their land to begin with?

Terry   December 31st, 2008 - 4:43 pm

navy65 December 31st, 2008 – 4:19 pm

“When will Hamas quit rocketing Israel?”

When will Israel stop illegally occupying land and give up their illegal WMDs and stop ethnic cleansing?

If we go to war with other nations under just ONE of those trangressions, why do we not attack Israel when they commit all three on a regular basis?

Israel should allow UN weapons inspectors.

Israel should stop making unprovoked attacks on its neighbors.

Other   December 31st, 2008 - 4:46 pm

“Terry December 31st, 2008 – 4:41 pm

WWYD December 31st, 2008 – 2:49 pm

“What Would You Do if someone had been firing explosive rockets into your home for a year or more.”

What would you do if a group took over your land because their religious texts said it was their land to begin with?”

It wasn’t Palestinian land to begin with.
In fact, it was Jordan who kicked them off. Israel got it in the 6 day war.

Eagle Eye   December 31st, 2008 - 4:55 pm

#1, the cowardly hamas members set up their missles troughout a public area. and if civilians are stupid enough to support hamas, and still stick around for the butt kicking they are going to get, then they deserve it. Just like the stupid people that hung around for Katrina when they had the chance to get out. You libtard losers would never make it in this world if you did’nt have someone elses coat tails to ride on or hide behind.

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 5:02 pm

p.s.

And screw that bunch of lying dogs that the American Taxpayer keeps funding! The Whores of the World. Death to the United Nations!
What a bunch of slimy criminals THOSE jerks are!

Biden ‘09!
Change I can believe in!

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 5:02 pm

These are the same “Salami Lickers” that carry children in front of them while they shoot at soldiers! And you people are whining about women and children being killed? If the Cowardly Islamic Pigs who follow Mohammad’s “Big Book of Lies” would stop making women and children stand around their ammo stashes, that kind of crap wouldn’t happen!

Give them all you’ve got, Israel!! Kill every stinking rag head Muslim scum you can! Kill them every damn one! Don’t stop until their filthy stink hole of a country is leveled!

God bless Israel!

Death to Islam!

Death to Cowards that support Islam!

Biden ‘09!
Change I can believe in!

USA!

FTW!

DILLIGAF?!

VFFV!

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 5:05 pm

Other(zionist):

You must go to church on Sunday don’t you? Learn something about the Belfour Agreement that came from Britian. Your beloved terrorist state, Israel, is not the land that God gave them. You seem to have had a public school education and because of that, I won’t hold you accountble. But you do have an opportunity to learn something if you want to. Also, it was just after WWI that your zionist brethern tried to convince Europe that 6 million Jews were killed during that war also. The people knew better, I suspect you do but have joined the other side.

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 5:14 pm

Supersarge229:

It appears that your God is Lucifer/Satan. You say God Bless Israel and then death to Islam. Now if you would remember a bit of history, you would know that Jesus Christ came well after Abraham who had sons named Issac and Ishmael. So your God would want you to call for death of others against his word because now man knows better than God. But your God, Lucifer, calls for destruction. I wonder why God or Christ did not teach us to kill those who did not believe in him. Your God Bless Israel is misguided in it’s intent. Zionists like yourself tend to spew hatred. God must be proud of you as well as those who call for more death.

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 5:18 pm

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
(of course)

p.s.

And SCR EW that bunch of lying dogs that the American Taxpayer keeps funding! They are the WHO RES of the World! Disband the United Nations! That organization is the biggest Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist, Anti-Semitic group of liars ever assembled for the sole purpose of disinformation and murder that the world has ever known!

Biden ‘09!
Change I can believe in!

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 5:24 pm

Dearest RB,

Please, feel free to EAT SH IT & DIE, you BU TTWI PE,TU RD EATER! God has nothing to do with it you stupid LITTLE C U N T! Little SH ITBI RDS like you make me sick with you psuedo-intellectual BU LLSH IT!

FU CK YO UVERY MUCH!

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 5:29 pm

SuperSarge229,

psuedo-intellectual, now thats a good one.

Thanks for making my oint about you and your God. I bet hundreds will just want to line up at the church doors to try and get into the Kingdom of Heaven after reading your posts.

In any case, thank you for your kind comments.

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 5:34 pm

Hey, RB and any other slime ball, rag head supporter,

What part of “Death To All The Cowardly, Baby Killing Islamic Bas tards Who Follow Mohammad’s Big Book of Lies for Arab Fools & Other Pigs”! don’t you understand, you stupid f uc king, left wing, brain dead C U N T S?
Did I fail to mention that causing pain, suffering and death to Muslims gives me a great big Throb bing woody!
These are the same Jack a s s e s that flew planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon for sh it’s sake you IGn orant, Ret arded, Mo uth Breath ing, Spit balls! W T F is your collective problem, Mag gots?
And don’t give me that Stu pid, Can dyAs s, “9/11 was an inside job” B S! That is the Stup idest crap that has ever spewed from the Cork soccers of Dum b As sed left wing T urd M unchers that I have ever heard!
What the Blo ody hell is wrong with you people, You Stu pid Co ol-aid Dri nking Di ps hits?
Did your Mothers drop you on your H-eads 2 many times while she was in line to get her Me-tha-d-ne?
Get with the program, or crawl under a rock until a T-rue Pat-riot tells you it’s safe to come out, you C ryBa byBu ttMu nchers!
Luv Ya,
Mean it!
SuperSarge229
p.s.
Hey, ya little BI TC HS, have ANY of you EVER served your country? Just wondering, punks & hoes.
Opps!
Almost forgot!
BIDEN ‘09
CHANGE I can believe in!
CHANGE I’ll giggle about!
CHANGE we need!
USA!
FTW!
DILLIGAF?!
VFFV!

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 5:46 pm

SuperSarge229,

Stay in Israel where the rest of your zionists buddies are.

I know you didn’t serve this country. You serve Israel.

How is the weather over there in Tel Aviv?

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 6:27 pm

Dearest RB and other stupid people,

It’s been warm here in GA, but it’s supposed to get cooler tonight & tomorrow.

I joined the US Army in 1979, thinking that there was NO WAY we would let Iran get away with holding Americans. Little did I know that Jimmy (I asked my daughter, Amy) Carter was a true left wing coward, in the fullest sense of the word.

When I retired in 1999, I was disgusted with the American government. My last tour was in Bosnia, 12 miles from the border of the country Bubba had declared war on. You remember, he was being impeached and started bombing Kosovo. Not one thing was going on that night that hadn’t been going on for a year prior.

The night Fat Boy started bombing; I gave 15 of my 30 bullets to the guy in the unit replacing us. That was because Super Stupid had made sure American Soldiers only had so much ammunition in country. A little sumpin sumpin he threw in for the U.N.

Anyway, back to LA RDA SS. He was being impeached for being a big fat liar. He had lied about a little incident when he got his knob slobbered by a fat little intern hoe.

What the press never mentioned was that meanwhile American soldiers were being slaughtered in Somalia, because Armored Vehicles couldn’t be used.

(You may have seen the movie, “Black Hawk Down”.)

Why couldn’t they be used you ask?
Simple.
Armored Vehicles couldn’t be without the specific consent of the Commander in Chief.

He didn’t want to appear to be a “War Monger.”

Unfortunately, Fat Boy couldn’t be disturbed. He was too busy, and had given very specific orders to be left alone.

So 19 American soldiers died that night, because President William Jefferson Clinton was too busy having sex, in the Oval Office, with Monica Lewinski.

Hard to believe that the current generation is finally getting around to fighting a war America has been too cowardly and lazy to fight for thirty years. Even harder to believe is that the American public has surrendered by electing President Erect Urkle Hussein. And sniveling twerps like you support the Islamic Fascists that would kill you and everyone in this country at the drop of a hat!

I hate you, and every stinking maggot like you!

Sincerely,
SFC J. Simmons
US Army, Retired

The Word   December 31st, 2008 - 6:35 pm

From Deuteronomy

7:1When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the…, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

2And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

20:10When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.

11And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.

12And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

13And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 6:39 pm

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

(Oh, good grief!)

Dearest RB and other stupid people,

It’s been warm here in GA, but it’s supposed to get cooler tonight & tomorrow.

I joined the US Army in 1979, thinking that there was NO WAY we would let Iran get away with holding Americans. Little did I know that Jimmy (I asked my daughter, Amy) Carter was a true left wing coward, in the fullest sense of the word.

When I retired in 1999, I was disgusted with the American government. My last tour was in Bosnia, 12 miles from the border of the country Bubba had declared war on. You remember, he was being impeached and started bombing Kosovo. Not one thing was going on that night that hadn’t been going on for a year prior.

The night Fa t Bo y started bombing; I gave 15 of my 30 bullets to the guy in the unit replacing us. That was because Sup er Stu pid had made sure American Soldiers only had so much ammun ition in country. A little sumpin sumpin he threw in for the U.N.

Anyway, back to Bubba. He was being im peac hed for being a big f at liar. He had lied about a little incident when he got his knob slo bber ed by a fat little intern.

What the pre ss never mentioned was that meanwhile Amer ican sold iers were being slaug htered in Soma lia, because Armored Veh icles couldn’t be used.

(You may have seen the movie, “Black Hawk Down”.)

Why couldn’t they be used you ask?
Simple.
Armored Vehi cles couldn’t be without the specific consent of the Com mander in Chief.

He didn’t want to appear to be a “War Mong er.”

Unfortunately, Bubba couldn’t be disturbed. He was too busy, and had given very specific orders to be left alone.

So 19 Ameri can soldi ers died that night, because Pres ident Will iam Jeffer son Clin ton was too busy having s ex, in the Oval Offi ce, with Mon ica Lewi nski.

Hard to believe that the current generation is finally getting around to fighting a war Ame rica has been too cow ardly and laz y to fight for thirty years. Even harder to believe is that the Ameri can public has surre ndered by el ecting Pres ident Erect Urkle Hus sein. And sni veling twer ps like you support the Is lamic Fas cists that would kill you and everyone in this country at the drop of a hat!

I hate you, and every stin king mag got like you!

Sincerely,
SFC J. Simmons
US Army, Retired

fande3rls   December 31st, 2008 - 7:07 pm

The other day I asked a question of those who are blaming Isreal for their Defending themselfs ,
Butof course no one would anwser The question so i will asks Again.
Israel did not start this fight . But They will get all the bad press . They deliberty try not to hit innocents in the line of fire . because terror groups like hama and hezbola use them as human sheilds . So what do you want Israel to do , lay there and take the Rocket attacks letting their Children get killed , is it alright that they defend themselfs?
Israel is not Occuping Gaza Strip Or the west Bank it is undercontrol of Hamas ,
Do you want another Holocaust ?
Well tell me >
There will be no peace untill they love their children more than they hate us _ Prim, Goldia Mier

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 7:07 pm

^^^^^^^^

jewish criminals exposed on link above

SuperSarge229   December 31st, 2008 - 7:08 pm

I’d blow the stupid Messenger’s head off with a 50 Caliper Sniper rifle and urinate on his splattered brains! (If they are big enough to locate!)

Drano   December 31st, 2008 - 7:11 pm

The Israelis are following the advice above from Deuteronomy to offer them peace first which they did and if they reject it which they did then destroy them completely.

“And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: “

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 7:32 pm

For those of you who are attempting to quote scriptures from the bible and to interpret events from the bible, you should really check your facts. The land that Israel currently occupies is not the land that God has given them. The current Jewish faith does not recognize Jesus Christ as the Son of God. In the Hebrew calandar, the year is 5769. So how is that God would give land to the so-called chosen while they continue to deny the existance of his Son? Once they recognize and accept Jesus Christ and acknowledge him, God will then give them the land that He has promised. Todays Christians have been drinking the kool-aid for too long and are fully prepared to accept the Anti-christ when he shows up. What then do i get if I were to deny the existance of God but yet pray to him everynight for a land to call my own?

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The Word   December 31st, 2008 - 9:00 pm

It is only Christians opinion that JC is the Messiah mentioned in the old testament.

In any case, the promises described in the “old testament” to the Israelites were made well before the Christian era.

As far as the Israelites are concerned the promises are still valid.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 9:21 pm

Judaism is based upon the Old Testament, and in particular, the first five books that constitute “The Law”, referred to as “The Torah”. As many undoubtedly remember from their Sunday school classes, it begins with the story of creation, the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, Noah’s ark and other seemingly harmless tales of persons and events.

The point at which it transforms into the creature responsible for so much of today’s mayhem is when Abraham, a landless, penniless nomad living in modern day Iraq, begins hearing voices in his head telling him he has been favored by a God named Yahweh who than promises him a future of wealth, land, power and superiority over all other persons, encapsulating this idea with “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee”. Shortly thereafter, he again hears voices in his head telling him to engage in the barbarity of human sacrifice by killing his own son Isaac in worshipping this God named Yahweh. With knife at the throat of his son and a mere few seconds away from becoming a murderer, he is then prevented from doing so by an angel, and some 3 generations later, his descendents (made up by 12 tribes) come to be known as “Israelites”.

Not long afterwards an Israelite named Moses also begins hearing voices from this same god, telling him to rescue the Israelites being “oppressed and persecuted” by the Egyptians. After a series of plagues brought against the oppressors–seemingly a fulfillment of Yahweh’s promise to “Curse those who curse” the descendents of Abraham, Moses–again, under the direction of the voices he is hearing–orders the Israelites to steal all the gold and silver of Egypt and to follow him to the land “promised” them by Yahweh residing between the two great rivers, the Nile and the Euphrates. Before entering this land however, Moses instructs the Israelites that they are to kill all the inhabitants, man, woman and child–”infant and suckling” and to rob them of all their possessions. An extermination campaign is mounted, in effect a “holocaust” of the Semitic peoples in the promised land, left unfinished by Moses but taken up again by his protégé Joshua and other subsequent leaders such as Saul and David.

By the time all is said and done, 31 cities inhabited by non-Israelite peoples–including but not limited to the Midianites, Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Hivites–have been completely destroyed. The only non-Israelites allowed to remain alive are young girls “who have never slept with man” who then become concubines for the Israelites as well as those adults who resign themselves to live as “carriers of water and hewers of wood”–in effect, slaves for God’s chosen people.

So in other words, Zionism–the idea that the “Chosen people” were promised the land encompassing modern day Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and elsewhere and were given the commandment to expel, murder and enslave the peoples and civilizations already there got its start with Abraham and was later put into practice by Moses and those who came after him. By definition then, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Saul, David and all the other “Patriarchs” (the George Washingtons, Thomas Jeffersons and John Adams of “Israel”) were Zionists.

Putting this into context, any other person or group of persons claiming to have received divine messages from some “higher power” telling them they were superior creatures and commanding them to invade, slaughter, enslave and rob other peoples not like them would–rightly–be branded criminally insane, delusional, fanatical and locked away for life. As it is today though, this situation is not categorized as such. Rather, it has been made into a “holy” religion that guides the actions of a nuclear-armed nation.

Answering Israel's critics   December 31st, 2008 - 9:24 pm

“Israel is targeting civilians”

You mean to say that “one of the most powerful armies in the world” has been bombing Gaza for days, deploying massive air power, dropping hundreds of bombs, and ultimately killing a grand total of 50 civilians or so in the “most crowded place on earth?”

There are two options here: A) The Israeli army is not targeting civilians, or B) Israeli pilots suck. We tend to go with option A.

Indeed, Israel goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties, by deploying precise ammunition and specialized techniques.

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 9:57 pm

Yeh, great lengths!

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many peoples living there, you shall then slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…You shall make no agreements with them nor show them any mercy…You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their graven images with fire. For you are a holy people unto the LORD thy God and He has chosen you to be a special people above all others upon the face of the earth…”

–Book of Deuteronomy, 7:1-8

Don't shoot the Messenger   December 31st, 2008 - 10:07 pm

Yeh, great lengths!

Israeli rabbis: Thou shalt kill civilians
Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:00:11 GMT

Four leading Israeli rabbis have sanctioned the murder of civilian population in the Gaza Strip amid the Israeli onslaught on the region.

“When a population living near a Jewish town sends bombs at the Jewish town with the purpose of killing and destroying Jewish lives there, it is permitted, according to Jewish Law, to fire shells and bombs at the firing sites, even if they are populated by civilians,” read a ruling issued by Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, Rabbi Dov Lior, Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe and Rabbi Meir Mazuz.

RB   December 31st, 2008 - 10:30 pm

to Answering Israel’s critics

Per Wikipedia: Palestinian health officials put the three-day death toll in Gaza at 363, while the United Nations humanitarian chief said that about 320 Palestinians had been killed and 1,400 injured. The UN said that civilian casualties, defined only as women and children, are 62. Israel has said that most of the deaths and injuries were Hamas militants and says it takes careful steps to avoid harm to bystanders. However, in a press conference in Gaza City on December 29, a de facto Hamas Interior Ministry spokesperson, Ihab Al-Ghusein, stated that most of the victims of the attacks were “Gazans at work, not activists launching rockets.” The New York Times has pointed out, that not all Hamas members necessarily fully accept the organisation’s ideology; young men might be simply tempted by the steady work of the police force as jobs are scarce in Gaza due to an international embargo on Hamas. A police spokesperson, Islam Shahwan, state that “at least 95% of the security services buildings” were destroyed, and that 138 police officers had been killed: nine in Rafah, 29 in Khan Younis, 70 in Gaza City and 30 “in the north.”

So, who do YOU believe?

fande3rls   December 31st, 2008 - 10:33 pm

AS I THOUGHT NO ONE WILL ANSWER MY QUESTION
as of my time of 10:38 pm. GOOD NIGHT

claspur   January 1st, 2009 - 4:16 am

Yeah, and don’t ever listen to sane people, okay?

Religion has started 90% of the wars on this planet about which knowone can prove exists in the first place.

I’ve been an Agnostic since I was 14 years old.

All you idiots have to do is, Prove It…and all this purpetual, deadly-global conflict will be over, once and for all, for all time.

SuperSarge229   January 1st, 2009 - 10:20 am

I’m just absolutely amazed that people whose opinions are so absolutely stupid can even read and write!

You booger eaters that support Hamas are the lowest form of human scum that ever crawled out from under a rock!

Carry your goat smelling rear ends over there and fight for what you believe in, you Worthless, Left Wing Cowards!

(And please, at your next BOO GER EA TINGMO RON meeting, one of you tell “revhatchell” it’s called the “shift button”. There is one on each side of the keyboard and you can use it to capitalize certain letters in you sentences, so you don’t look like a COM PLE TE 1D10T every time you write something!!)

Kenny C   January 1st, 2009 - 10:08 pm

Enough cease fire bull sheit….you been fighting for 60 plus years….get the damn war over…..can’t you azz holes finish anything…we are tired of finishing other peoples wars…do it your self so the victors children can some day know peace…I don’t give a sheit who wins….you are all azz holes….put a camera on the corner and you start throwing rocks.

Eileen for Freedom/Liberty   January 3rd, 2009 - 7:14 pm

Very important program to watch

Fox News Channel

Tonight – Sat – January 3

Time: 9:00 pm (est)

Program detailing the inner workings of Hamas by the son of a Hamas leader. This young man now has a death sentence on him since he converted to Christianity and now lives in the US…a very…very brave man!

ken   February 5th, 2009 - 2:23 am

i hope they all kill each other then there will be peace.i look forwards to the oil running out then we wont have to cosy up to sutch repolseve ppl as the jews/arabs

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