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Andrew did your alegedly commie dad name names?
enquiring minds want to know?
So, Mark, what’s your name, and what’s your place of employment?
Thank you Mr. Breitbart for your bravery.
I voted against 8 here in Hollywood, but I live in fear now do to the blacklisting done by my friends and neighbors.
I fear there is no end to this, am I going to be blacklisted for not being a democrat? Am I going to be listed in a newspaper because I did not vote for Schwarzenegger?
I have personally been censored on Blogs here in the city for not appearing “gay friendly”. I used to laugh at the term “Gay Mafia”.
Everybody needs to know that if you live in Hollywood, and you appear to be anything other than a far left leaning gay man, in some media cirlces, you risk not getting promotions, work, and even worse, censorship…
This is the battle we face…
Thanks for running with this one Andrew.
my name is mark the queer, what’s your name?
Andrew the PROPOGANDIST?
I did research that it’s your father-in-law Orson Bean and he didn’t name names,,,,supposedly, but I don’t recall him not being able to perform, that was usually those who cooperated with McCarthy…just saying.
another activity the left is against until it will work in their favor…
here’s just one link to the Mormons BLACKMAILING No on prop 8 donors
http://crooksandliars.com/julia-rosen/mormons-and-prop-8-lies-and-blackmail
EACH letter carries the penalty of 4 year prison term and thousands in fines, and they will serve every day and pay every dime.
Man Andrew, I loved your comment about having them go down and protest at the local mosque! I guess CAIR won’t be going after you for that one huh?
C’mon queer groups, I want to see footage of one of your mobs outside of a mosque or black church. Let’s see if you really have the “balls” to do it, something tells me even in your sickest sexually perverted fantasies getting detonated or beheaded aren’t among them. I always used to be ambivalent about gay causes but their thuggishly light in the loafers mob behavior has made me take sides, and it ain’t yours. Finally, to those churches and business who are currently being targeted for intimidation, you can learn a thing or two from mosques and black churches.
We have HOMO/LESBO Marriage here in MA.
The Judges said it was O.K.
Now, Adam is married to Steve. 40 years ago they in the closet. Just think how much we will “evolve” during the next 40 years.
Scott
honey, Gay Mafia underestimates US.
That would make the mistake that a few powerful well financed queers run the show…they don’t.
Queers don’t work within a heirarchy. As enemies we are formidable, many of us invisibly blend into the background, that you never see, especially the lesbians. We aren’t only an opponent outside your company, we are inside too. We are EVERYWHERE. We also may just be the delivery guy who sends your essential overnight package to a slightly wrong address, we may be the secretary who knows every dime you padded on your expense account, or worse your tax return. We know every employee sneaking to the no tell motel with another employee.
There are Moslem gays/lesbians speaking to their community and African American gays/lesbians having conversations in their churches, and there are MORMON gays/lesbians speaking to their elders.
I blacklisted theater movies a decade ago….stopped renting them three years ago.
I check-out what I want to see at the library.<period
Looney Clooney…remember when that Wad first showed-up….The Facts of Life. lmao
He and Matt Damon are having a baby, you know? They’re due in March, I’ve heard.
This trend in America of disagreeing to the point that lives are ruined is very disturbing.
There is a tendency of liberals to “force” people that disagree with them to listen to their message. Remember the so called WTC protests in Seattle 10 years ago? They cut off street movement and wouldn’t allow any pedestrian movement because their message was so compelling.
Please, create a compelling message and I’ll listen.
Naming names and outing people after the fact is nothing more than intimidation and punishment for disagreeing.
Why do liberals hate the Constitution?
Hahahahahahhaa!!
Hey Andy…
Keep yourself in front of a keyboard “ONLY”….
The “cameras” are just not kind to you at all…
Your are a minor “name” NOT a “face”…
Larse, brilliant strategery! If you cant actually come up with something bright to say on the subject make fun the guy’s face.
I’ll have to remember that next time I get into an argument with a seven year old.
Larse, I double dawg dare YOU to show YOUR mug and YOUR opinion on tv. Especially where your opinion isn’t the popular one. GO ANDY! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT cuz we’ve got the RIGHT!
Andrew,
The man in musical theater, who may be the dumbest thing on the planet if he thought angering queers in that field wouldn’t go over like a pregnant pole vaulter, wasn’t fired.
In contrast a gay columnist Dan Savage’s column was dropped by the SLWeekly because he called for UT to be boycotted.
So when you point fingers at discrimination post prop 8 becareful, some of your side ain’t guilty too.
Me thinks andY is hiding in the closet.
In other words A TOTAL HYPOCRITE!
/sounds more queer than Elton John
(whom I respect and admire)
Homosexuality is not contagious you pos right wingers.
Andrew REALLY can ya update your software so the L-WORD for gay womyn doesn’t hold up a post.
then we could actually have a REAL conversation on gay issues.
the term which you CAN’T HANDLE….it’s kinda like women from Lesbos
The point missed here is the gay community wants tolerance from every one else but is unwilling to return the favor.
Intimidation is the name of their game. In reality they are guilty of hate crimes against those who choose to not support their lifestyle.
But it aint quite right either. :-) Oh and robert keep your name calling to yourself. Fudge packer.
What ezactly did the LDS elders buy with their 22 million for prop 8?
They didn’t prevent same sex marriages.
Even the gays married in CA will be grandfathered into any prop 8 verdict.
MA and CT allow ALL same sex couples from any state to go get married in their states.
ALL those couples will have lawsuits in their home states to recognise their marriages.
So all LDS elders bought was the UNENDING animosity of LGBTs and our straight but not narrow friends.
So why are you surprised with the hypocracy on these issues?
This is setting up for Anti-Christ to appear on the world stage.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=47044436
sane american
I could give a rat’s behind if you tollerate queers.
What’s happening now, is when you used to bash us we didn’t bash back….NO MORE Mr. NICE Gay just started,
“buckle your seatbelts, it’s gonna be a BUMPY FLIGHT”
It’s an unfounded ugly rumor this sweet baby Damien…er Samuel Cheney is the Anti Christ…as far as I know.
http://www.illinoisfamily.org/content/img/f33327/SamuelDavidCheney.jpg
Don’t forget the QUEEN of H8 who is the Mommy of the guy who owns the MURDERING Mercenary company Blackwater. This sour old **** gave 450K,,,all blood money for prop 8
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/Prop8Billionaire1.jpg
Andrew I think it was uncalled for saying you aren’t attractive enough for TV.
I only wished you were BIGGER, to block that eye sore Laura Ingram off camera. She definitely has a face made FOR RADIO.
:D
The best and easiest solution is to stop seeing, buying and renting movies. We have, and we haven’t noticed a difference in our lives. That will be the only way to shut these people up.
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Let’s be clear. protesting and blacklisting are two different things. protesting is good, wholesome democracy at work. no one is lobbing molotov cocktails at homophobes.
obviously using the term ‘blacklist’ has a spin that is convenient and inflammatory for those on the conservative side. it simply is not appropriate. if you lose your job for discrimination or your business is singled out for protest based on evidence of discrimination then so be it. if you choose to be exclusionary then there will be a reaction. that’s the way a democracy works. people need to get off their fat lazy asses and take it to the streets in this country for a change. complacency and laziness has stagnated cultural and intellectual growth in this country for too long already.
and another thing. the sanctity of marriage is not at stake. sexual repression and decades of intolerance are what are being changed here.
i am a happily married heterosexual man and i don’t see how that is going to change by letting gay people get married.
what are these people afraid of?
The problem I have with blacklisting of Hollywood conservatives is conservative media does it also.
Take talk radio for example, All the hosts have their own preference of music when producing bumpers or commercials. They usually reflect what they, the Program Directors, or their “music consultants” grew up with. They leave no room for music they never cared for or gave half a chance. The reason they don’t allow music their not accustom to is because they can. Is this a form of black listing ? pretty much. How do I know musical black listing exist? I’ve experienced it for two years now. For two years I’ve been trying to introduce them to heavy metal music with the help of my son’s band, a six year old heavy metal band that brings down the clubs with original music. Not the Ozzie or AC-DC commercial programming stuff, but real razor edge guitar type heavy metal good enough for nfl highlights, European TV and Metallica, but not good enough for their radio. It’s music many from age 11 to 30 love. It’s music that’ll draw an untapped age group. I even broke down the songs into 70 music clips that can fit any where in their broadcasts. I sent out many copies to many radio stations as well. I even took out any screamo vocals leaving solid hooks, and guitars but no, it’s not to their liking so to bad, or it might send the wrong message, or sounds anger, or better yet, god forbid they actually help someone out not in their circle of friends or likes. Black listing comes in all forms.
Check out the music yourself at cdbaby malicious disorder, or malice420.com or e me @ pane@cox.net
in 2 days
prop 8 just add MILK
you’ll have a POWER drink you haven’t seen the likes of in 40 years.
Andrew you should curb your motely homobigots, the stuff they spew could hurt David Dreier’s, Lindsey Graham’s, Mitch McConnell’s, Condi Rice’s, Ken Mehlman’s feelings.
and poor Miss Matt Drudge might not feed you another BOGUS college piglet republican faking a racist attack with a backward B slightly scratched on her face, and you made THREE threads of, and looked like the BIGGEST racist pig on the web.
I guess voting doesn’t count in California anymore. Here’s my recommendation, have the gay’s all move to Wyoming or North Dakota and let them vote whatever they want.
I honestly don’t care what gays do in the privacy of their own abode, but they should rest assured in the fact that, no matter what laws they may get changed; no matter how TV shows or Movies present them; no matter what accolades they may obtain, humanity will not change the way they view them. And that’s what really upsets them. their lifestyle will always be alternative.
Race and Gender are not choices. Sex practices are a choice.
FOX NEWS is probably the MOST aggergious “OUTERS”, when Shepard Smith made HONEST angry reporting from the gulf coast after Katrina…they tossed him from his CLOSET.
Fags be packin your bags because its move on time from calif.
Go to the mosque? Are you kidding?
Why on Earth would they want to go somewhere they might get bitch slapped? They would rather intimidate old ladies, wheelchair bound veterans, and 8 year olds.
Being a homo isn’t contagious, but neither is it genetic.
Great shame is this terror campaign – and we see again that liberals’ infamy has no limit. I still want to make an addition here – no matter how base the anti-8 crew and their liberal supporters are, there are a few more scarier elements to this situation, and here comes my scale:
1) plain infamy – the gay radicals;
2) bigger infamy – their media supporters who nonchalantly encourage this type of lynching of regular citizens who have exercised their contitutional rights according to their beliefs;
3) and even bigger infamy, and unfortunately, this case is illustrated by the larger population who meekly acquiesces this ugly situation – realm of the proud and free, where are you? No one remembers Voltaire “I hate what you say, but I’ll die for your right to say it?”
Doesn’t the prop 8 reprisals remind anyone Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Russia, where thugs could destroy anyone who didn’t agree with the official views?
To the sad sack dba Mark:
Inarticulate you are bab’, and quite hysterical too. As far as MILK, it’s already over, except freaks like you no one will spend a nickel for that piece of crap – unless there are some donoughts involved, if you get my drift (you don’t).
MILK already crashed, the fools who put $$ in it have lost their money (love it! by the way Mark, you are not Mark Cuban, are you?), Hollywood is gone, and in much extent this comes from the idiotic liberal agenda that promotes pictures about matters no one gives a dead rat’s fart like MILK.
Now fabulous, crawl back under your rock, dress y/self in pink and start watching fifties MGM movies.
PS: don’t strangle y/self with the boa.
PPS: Don’t apply at my joint (distribution) as receptionist.
http://crooksandliars.com/julia-rosen/mormons-and-prop-8-lies-and-blackmail
Clearly this link was provided earlier, but it’s important. It shows that threats and intimidation were first used by those against gay marriage to intimidate those who supported gay marriage.
The right is only angry now because the whole thing backfired – and now those on the right are getting a taste of their own medicine. In fact the right used blacklists two years ago against Air America. Did conservatives come forward and protest the injustice then? No, I didn’t think so!
In fact why not blacklist the very companies that blacklisted Air America? The list is at the beginning of this story. So many of these 90+ companies on the list are obviously household names – even cutting back a little bit on some of those purchases from the companies on the list in tough times could make a real difference.
Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays
Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays
It is racist and bigoted to argue the LDS efforts brainwashed any blacks into voting to defend traditional marriage.
50 years ago more than 80% of our families were traditional, when the anti-poverty programs of the 60s mandating the ‘able bodied’ man of the house not be there living off the welfare were proposed, many felt keeping the family together while dad sought opportunity, experience and/or training to better provide for his family was best.
(A lot harder to up root and start over, seeking the promised land of a fair break when you are near broke and towing a family.)
Many saw government incentives to split up the family and make dad unnecessary could undermine the family and community.
Those who spoke up had a hard time getting press coverage, just before passage of the legislation a small group of seasoned activists representing this school of thought, got NY senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan to call a press conference for them so these arguments might finally be heard, though it was too little too late.
Over the decades that followed our defense of traditional marriage activists fought a loosing battle arguing the value of traditional marriage and family as unique and special, the best amongst all the alternatives.
They fought against growing government incentives, and popular culture acceptance of the alternatives as just as good, and easier, while our out of wedlock birth rate soared to near 70% with all the attendant problems at rates we had never seen before, even during the bad old days of open racism.
Then a few years ago same sex marriage became a civil rights issue and all who fought for traditional marriage a family were intolerant haters and hypocrites, ignorant bigots no better than the racists who opposed inter racial marriage. The decades many had struggled to preserve and restore our traditional family values before ssm became and issue did not matter, they were now to be ridiculed, discredited and despised.
When the belief in the superiority of traditional values is equated to belief in racial superiority, how do you promote traditional family values to you heirs, above a growing number of alternatives?
How do you restore the traditional family to the sanctity it once had?
Are the ravages of the fall of the traditional minority family acceptable as unintended collateral damage for this social experiment with families and children?
Any who do not go along to get along are to be subjected to the same treatment as those who defend traditional values. Does not matter we have known what they were doing all our lives, we are being ordered to sell them out by people who co-opt our struggles, our victories, our heroes, comparing themselves and each other to Rev. King and Rose Parks while they redefine us as ignorant, intolerant, haters and bigots banning gay marriage, not people defending traditional values and/or friends and relatives living or passed on, who never gave up on what these values might do again for our families and communities.
When the mayor of New Paltz NY legalized ssm he and 200 people commanded world attention, at the same time a coalition of minority clergy with hundreds of clergy and thousands of congregants representing a coalition of most of New England had to call in Jesse Jackson to draw sparse media attention.
A similar gathering the Oct 22 in L.A. brought in representative of over 1,000 congregations and 3,000,000 congregants to also be largely ignored. So people were shocked when nearly 70% of us supported traditional values, everywhere we had a chance.
Many may not live by these values but we know right from wrong and we still recognize when we are being disrespected with contempt, stereotyped, silenced and exploited, we’ve been black all our lives remember.
We weren’t brain washed, we just are not stupid or ignorant like some people need to believe. Censoring our arguments does not make our truth go away, just makes it easier for a while to stereotype and denigrate us. For a while.
misanthropicus,
sweetie, you couldn’t afford me as an employee, and I’m self employed with my lover doing major events all over the country.
Silver of 538 polling site disputed the 70% African American figure, exit polling ONLY African Americans would have an error factor of plus or minus 10, and the new young voters who just registered to vote, overwhelmingly voted against prop 8.
Mark’s impersonating a knowledgeable, well… person: “Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays.”
How’s that blockhead? Gays are under 1% of population NOW, after DDT hit the world (to enlighten you, the DDT came only in the fifties) – so, in the thirties you’re bleating about you couldn’t round up hundred of thousands of gays neither in Germany nor in Soviet Union.
And to spice this: SA, SS, the Gestapo, and the NKVD and SMERCH were LOADED with homosexuals, Marky thing – check Tom of Finland’s real pictures. Now back under your humid rock.
Actually this is a good thing. It reveals the “gays” for what they really are: hysterical, fanatical, tyrannical, anti-democratic, elitist, chauvinistic, narcissistic, and hardly very gay at all. It makes it a lot easier to believe the assertion that rather than being the victims of Nazi oppression, “gays” *were* the Nazi oppression, as homosexual beatnik poet Alan Ginzburg testified to congress. The leather set had finally come to power. It *can* happen here.
RE: Farmer Bob – Bingo.
“Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays” — Mark
Well, they killed tens of millions of normal people, so it’s likely a few stray deviants got caught in the crossfire. But in the case of the Nazis, speaking of deviants, there were far more of them inside the party pissing out than outside pissing in. The Nazi party could rightly be characterized as the first gay rights party come to power. What a treat.
Scott Eckern, was the very talented artistic director of the California Musical Theater in Sacramento. Since many of the musicals performed at CMT are authored by gays, it is safe then to assume that by staging the musicals Eckern has profited financially from the gays who authored the shows and from gays who have attended the shows. He donated $1000.00 of his personal finances to help fund the anti-gay marriage act, Prop 8. He held to his religious beliefs and did this as a private citizen. It was his right. He was then harassed, blacklisted and pressured by gay activists to resign his position because they didn’t agree with what he did with his own money as a private citizen.
Stephen Schwartz is the incredibly talented composer of several shows that are supported by fundamentalist Christian circles. These shows include “Godspellâ€, “Prince of Egyptâ€, “Pippinâ€, “Massâ€, and “Children of Eden.†It’s safe to say Schwartz has profited financially from the Christians who stage his shows and from Christians who attend his shows. Stephen makes regular contributions to several gay fund raising events and charities. He stands by his own beliefs and this is his right as a private citizen. No Christian has ever harassed, blacklisted or pressured him to resign from his career as a composer because they didn’t agree with what he did with his own money as a private citizen.
It is a strange and ironic hypocrisy then that Stephen Schwartz of “Wicked†fame is the person that led the witch-hunt against Eckert and put pressure on him to resign. I think Stephen needs to take the financially-supported-by-Christian’s log out of his own eye before attempting to remove the financially-supported-by-gays splinter out of Scott’s eye.
Some gay activists could probably use a refresher course in appreciating diversity.
Religiphobes.
“Nevertheless, researchers estimate that some 50,000 men were convicted for committing homosexual acts, and that 15,000 gays died in Auschwitz alone, many of them worked to death. According to the historian Rictor Norton, estimates for the total number of gay men killed by the Nazis range from 10,000 (undoubtedly too low) to 430,000 (probably too high).”
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/holocaust/victims3.html
“By the mid-1930s, Stalin had unleashed a full-fledged offensive against gays and lesbians. When the USSR constitution was written up for example, Stalin personally intervened to have a provision added that from now on any one caught and convicted of having committed a homosexual act would be sentenced to eight years of hard labor.”
http://www.geocities.com/youth4sa/gay-history.html
LGBTs are 5% of the country generally and in cities where we migrate we reach 9% of the population. Berlin was for men who wanted men, what Paris was for men who wanted women. There is verifiable numbers of gays who signed gay rights initiatives, which is how Nazis tracked most of them. Christpher Isherwood who wrote the Berlin Papers which became Cabaret was a Brit in Berlin pre war. Hitler killed 9 million, Stalin killed 20 million. That makes 5% of 20 million, 1 million queers, and 5% of 9 million, 180,000.
The 5% is conservative figure of non major cities.
While this is wrong, so is making gay individuals second class citizens because they fall in love with those who are the same gender. I don’t see the sense in choosing to exclude one group from certain rights over little details. We’re all human, after all, and we should all be treated as such.
The gays won’t riot in front of a mosque, cause they don’t want to get killed.
Farmer Bob
There were Nazi queers the head of the SA was an ugly old queer. The night of Long Knives is shown in BENT, where in one night all the queer Nazis are killed, it is the rising of the SS to replace the SA. Hitler enlisted many disenfranchised people on his rise to power and some were gay.
Randall, USA:
You are assuming that Islam is a religion of violence. Like every other popular religion, it is a peaceful one with a few violent individuals garnering more attention and disproportionately skewing public perception of it. Assumptions can easily lead to unnecessary and unwanted hatred.
““Nevertheless, researchers estimate that some 50,000 men were convicted for committing homosexual acts, and that 15,000 gays died in Auschwitz alone, . . ‘” — Mark
Your “researchers” had better stop estimating and start documenting. The holocaust memorial likewise “estimates” that 9,000 to 15,000 “gays,” died, as “gays,” in concentration camps from all causes. Some of these were homos that could not be rehabilitated for military service. However, many of those interned were not queers at all, but opposition clergy who were arrested on trumped up charges of homosexuality. It is not only mainline historians who have noticed the disproportionate number of homosexuals in the Nazi party, much helpful documentation comes from “gay” historians as well. Homosexual Nazis feature very prominently in the wartime OSS psychological profile of Hitler as well. It “names names,” to coin a phrase.
Gays would be in no more danger rioting at Temple Square in Salt Lake City than they would be in front of a Mosque. LDS elders used goon squads against the first elder who dared to ordain Blacks into the priesthood, they followed him and murdered his body guard. NAACP had a major lawsuit against the LDS church, and miracle of miracles the Church quit saying Blacks bore the Mark of Cain (the first murderer) and could be priests.
what a coincidence.
Farmer Bob
NOT every queer killed was designated a queer with a pink triangle. Some of the Jews were queers, some of the Communists were queer, some of the Gypsies were queer, some of the Jehovah Witnesses were queer.
Gays were STILL designated as criminals even when the CAMPs were liberated they were sent back to prisons. Gays got ZERO reparations that Jews and other groups received.
Here is an interesting observation by a contemporary of the Nazis, one Adolf Brandt, founder of the “Community of the Elite,†a homo organization, and publisher of “Der Eigene,†the world’s first openly homosexual magazine:
“Men such as Captain Rohm, are, to our knowledge,
no rarity at all in the National Socialist Party. It rather teems there with homosexuals of all kinds. And the joy of man in man, which has been slandered in their papers so often as an oriental vice although the Edda frankly extols it as the highest virtue of the Teutons, blossoms around
their campfires and is cultivated and fostered by them in a way done in no other male union that is reared on party politics. The threatened hanging on the gallows, with which they allege they want to exterminate homosexuals, is therefore only a horrible gesture that is supposed to make stupid people believe that the Hitler people, in the matter of male-to-male inclinations, are all as innocent as pigeons and pure as angels, just like the pious members of the Christian Society of the Virgin…The public threat against the homosexuals has in the meantime not frightened any youth-friend or man-friend into deserting
this party. One knows perfectly well that all those public threats are only paper masks.†— Adolf Brandt (Oosterhuis and Kennedy:236f.).
Adolf Brandt on Homosexuality in the Nazi Party:
This excerpt from Brandt’s writings is from [I]Homosexuality and Male Bonding in Pre-Nazi Germany (Haworth Press 1991), by Harry Oosterhuis and Hubert Kennedy.
Brandt was Lovely man, don’t you think? A veritable poet of perversity.
By the way, Oosterhuis and Kennedy?. . .gays.
Gays were sent to slave labor camps, and routinely murdered and worked to death, BEFORE Jews were taken from ghettos to Concentration Camps. WE were the test subjects in the NAZI killing machine.
“Gays got ZERO reparations that Jews and other groups received.” — Mark
“Gays” should be paying the reparations. They were *disproportionately* concentrated in the Nazi Party hierarchy. The Hitler Youth was known as the “homo youth” in Germany at that time, the happy hunting ground of the Nazi Party hierarchy. The “ugly queer” to whom you refer as head of the SA was Captain Ernst Rohm, Hitler’s controller in the German army at the time Hitler was infiltrated as an informer into what later became the Nazi party. Rohm was Hitler’s entree’ into German homosexual society. Many of the assassins wielding the knives on the “Night of the Long Knives” were likewise homosexuals. And your statement that “all the queer Nazis were killed” in “one night” is utterly absurd. The Third Reich was one out of control fag fest from beginning to end, so much so that even Mussolini’s fascists, no slouches themselves when it came to degeneracy, referred to sodomy as “the German disease.”
DON’T compare a person resigning their job to a lynching.
Did they get stabbed to death by 7 teens LAST MONTH like a latino gay boy?
Did they get shot in the head execution style like the African American transexual LAST MONTH?
Did they get pistol whipped and left hanging on a fence in Laramie to die of exposure?
Did they get beaten to death with baseball bats sleeping on a cot in the barracks by two fellow soldiers?
Did they get kicked to death in tokyo by 5 fellow sailors, so severly the coroner described the body looking like it had been in a car accident, and HIS mother couldn’t recognise the corpse?
Farmer Bob
another WWll queer who single handedly made D-Day possible and broke the NAZI code was a Brit queer, he’s also credited as being the father of the computer.
“Leavitt, who teaches creative writing at the U. of Florida, brings his novelist sensibilities to bear on the story of the English mathematician Alan Turing, who helped crack the Enigma code of World War II, crossed paths with the great minds of his time, and found his career as a computer builder cut short after he was arrested for violating anti-homosexuality laws. The biography, however, is no melodrama, focusing most intently on Turing’s ideas and their implications for the science that followed. ”
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Man-Who-Knew-Too-Much/David-Leavitt/e/9780393052367
mark is trying to re-write history. Typical liberal. Before you know it gays will have discovered fire.
“WWll queer who single handedly made D-Day possible and broke the NAZI code was a Brit queer, he’s also credited as being the father of the computer.” –Mark
And it was the queers of the Nazi party that made D-Day necessary.
Hardly makes up for the millions of dead straight people killed by homosexual Nazis, does it?
The computer had many fathers and even an occasional mother, stretching back hundreds of years, by the way.
Hitler Youth = Pope Ratzinger….you can call him a homo, in his Prada red pumps, white dresses, and too much jewelry. He was also the go to queer to hide pedofile priests for a DECADE.
Mark sneered: “We are EVERYWHERE. We also may just be the delivery guy who sends your essential overnight package to a slightly wrong address, we may be the secretary who knows every dime you padded on your expense account, or worse your tax return. We know every employee sneaking to the no tell motel with another employee.”
Mark, you are not only DELUSIONAL (”We are EVERYWHERE”–what a riot! You LIAR. You are about 1% of the TOTAL POPULATION, so that does not equate to EVERYWHERE except in your wildest fantasies!); but you are also DISGUSTINGLY CHILDISH… Like so many “gay” people are. And that is a MAJOR REASON why many people not only dislike gays but are adamant that you should NOT be “equated” with heteros: Because you are emotionally DERANGED.
Don’t get your own way? Don’t like election results? Then throw a HISSY-FIT, and make sure the cameras are rolling. SABOTAGE the persons you assume are blocking your childish “wants”! Yeah, ACT UP. Stir a ruckus. Make waves. Get in people’s faces with your obnoxious, immature B.S. Assault little old grannies who carry a cross and want to make a statement. BLACKLIST folks who gave a few bucks to try to safeguard traditional marriage and families… On and on and on.
Yeah, sure, that is REALLY going to make folks LIKE YOU and APPROVE OF YOUR DISTORTED LIFESTYLE.
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
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QUEERS gave you Democracy
PLATO and SOCRATES
QUEERS gave you Flight and Submarines and Diving suits and surgical drawings from autopsy
LEONARDO
QUEERS gave you some of the finest paintings and sculptures
Michaelangelo
QUEERS ended slavery in America
LINCOLN
QUEERS had the toughest army of the Ancient world
SACRED BAND OF THEBES
QUEERS had the most brilliant military leaders
Alexander, Napolean, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton
Thank you Breitbart for this video! This is just another reason I am BOYCOTTING Hollyweird and the media! They are out of here!
PS~Thanx Farmer Bob for all the info, very interesting and for exposing MaRK with the very description of~ Actually this is a good thing. It reveals the “gays†for what they really are: hysterical, fanatical, tyrannical, anti-democratic, elitist, chauvinistic, narcissistic, and hardly very gay at all. Cake bOyZ
Mark and Others are EMOTIONALLY DERANGED
What you don’t know about gays…is HYSTERICAL.
Mark spluttered: “QUEERS ended slavery in America
LINCOLN…”
You dumb-ass liar! Abraham Lincoln was SO FAR ABOVE YOU AND YOUR SICK ILK that it’s not even funny. Lincoln had a SOUL–far more than any of YOUR SICK ILK can claim!
How DARE you insult the noblest President this country has ever known by insinuating he was qu33r!? You are clearly the SCUM of the earth and have NOTHING to offer, or you’d GET A LIFE and get OFF this FANTASY of yours that “GAY” IS SOMEHOW “A VALID LIFE” and that you are somehow SUPERIOR to REAL PEOPLE.
Abraham Lincoln was SO FAR ABOVE YOUR SICK ILK that if he were alive today, he would FIGHT for your *CIVIL* LIBERTIES, but he for DAMNED SURE would NEVER acquiesce to your demand to have your PRETEND-MARRIAGES SANCTIONED BY THE GOVERNMENT!’
YOU, sir, are SICK!
As we put perversion into its proper context, we realize that “The “Gay Agenda†of Harvard homosexuals Kirk and Pill epitomizes the perversion of mentality that necessarily arises from the perversion of sexuality. It is the product of minds that, underneath it all, can not hope to reconcile their inverted sexuality with their physiology. Therefore, only by perverting reason can they expect to rationalize their condition. Only by perverting a society can they hope to make it their home. Thus, “The Gay Agenda.â€
OSS psychiatrist Walter Langer recognized this as a condition inseparable from homosexuality in his seminal analysis of “The Mind of Adolf Hitler,†for the War Department. He was commenting on the extraordinary attraction the Nazi Party held for homosexuals.
Mark murmured: “What you don’t know about gays…is HYSTERICAL.”
Well, Marko– What YOU don’t know about GAYS is that their primary dysfunction is precisely a case of EMOTIONAL HYSTERIA!!!
LOL.
:-)
Lincoln was KNON in his own time as GAY.
He lived 4 years with a man in a one bed house.
he had LITTLE interest in women, even written about while he was seeing Mary,
Lincoln SLEPT with his body guard when Mary wasn’t at the White House.
“Six years later, Lincoln moved to Springfield, where he met Joshua Speed, who became a close friend; John G. Nicolay and John Hay, two early biographers, called him ”the only — as he was certainly the last — intimate friend that Lincoln ever had.” Lincoln and Speed shared a double bed in Speed’s store for four years (for two of those years, two other young men shared the room, though not the bed). More important than the sleeping arrangements was the tone of their friendship. Lincoln’s letters to Speed before and after Speed’s wedding in 1842 are as fretful as those of a general before a dubious engagement. Several of them are signed ”Yours forever.”
and
“For nearly eight months in 1862-3, Capt. David Derickson led the brigade that guarded Lincoln at the Soldiers’ Home in the District of Columbia, the Camp David of the day. Derickson, in the words of his regiment’s history, published three decades later, ”advanced so far in the president’s confidence and esteem that in Mrs. Lincoln’s absence he frequently spent the night at his cottage, sleeping in the same bed with him, and — it is said — making use of his Excellency’s night shirt!”
MARK is FULL OF SH!T!!!!!
Lincoln was no more gay than *I* am!!!
You are PATHETIC in your attempt to drag down the world’s greatest President and humanitarian, and do so with ridiculous stories about beds and bedshirts!
You’re the same kind of JERK who claims that JESUS was gay!! WHAT IMBECILES YOU GUYS ARE!
WHY DON’T YOU GROW UP??!!!
In ”The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln,” C. A. Tripp contends that Lincoln had erotic attractions and attachments to men throughout his life, from his youth to his presidency. He further argues that Lincoln’s relationships with women were either invented by biographers (his love of Ann Rutledge) or were desolate botches (his courtship of Mary Owens and his marriage to Mary Todd). Tripp is not the first to argue that Lincoln was homosexual — earlier writers have parsed his friendship with Joshua Speed, the young store owner he lived with after moving to Springfield, Ill. — but he assembles a mass of evidence and tries to make sense of it.
Tripp died in May 2003, after finishing the manuscript of this book, which means he never had a chance to fix its flaws. The prose is both jumpy and lifeless, like a body receiving electric shocks. Tripp alternates shrewd guesses and modest judgments with bluster and fantasy. He drags in references to Alfred Kinsey (with whom he once worked) to give his arguments a (spurious) scientific sheen. And he has an ax to grind. He is, most famously, the author of ”The Homosexual Matrix.” Published in 1975, it was a document of gay liberation.
Excerpt of New York Times book review by By RICHARD BROOKHISER, Published: January 9, 2005.
Props to you, Andrew Breitbart — speaking out as you have, your site’s reporting, overall, you’re a brave, courageous and talented man worth anyone’s respect.
As to the intimidation efforts by the Left, the “gay mafia” especially: it is most definitely real and actively hateful.
What this proves and continues to prove is that the Left are the “haters” among the human race. Anyone who has tried to work in entertainment — or in various other industries, for that matter — is familiar with the not-even-subtle “blacklisting” or shunning that occurs against Conservatives or just ANYone who is not an outspoken supporter of the Left’s agenda (including the whole “homosexual rights” issue).
Worse, their method of blacklisting is graphic and ugly, irrational gossip about those they target. There is no respect or human decency involved; people are literally destroyed by the Left for having different opinions. And the rioting and demonstrations of late (and of old) by the Left do represent a building militancy that is not at all decent.
Homosexual individuals have the same rights as any other citizen in this nation. What they want is some “supreme” classification associated with their behaviors, and the denigration of classification for those who disagree with those and them.
This Liberal guy (Black man) was on Fox last week and he was asked why the homosexuals weren’t storming Christian churches with Black congregations, and the Black guy blurted out, “because they fear the retaliation (they’d get)”.
Even the Left understands these sub-sets of culture and mentality and that is that (even) the Left understands they’re engaged in desperate, deplorable destructive acts against other humans in our world, that their activism is destructive.
However, they are also the loudest (most destructive) protestors about our U.S. military and about the entire concept of law enforcement and criminal punishment.
Yet they preposterously refer to the Right and Conservatives as “fascists” while the Left is, indeed, the fascist movement in our nation and always has been. Whether long haired and stoned or not, they’ve been advancing fascism for many decades now.
Prominent Gays
Hitler
Stalin
J. Edgar Hoover
Quasimodo
Alexander
Jack the Ripper
Yassar Arrafat
Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
Mel Gibson
Malcom X
Pol Pot
Pontus Pilate
Wayne Gacey
Rush Limbaugh (bi)
Nancy Reagan
Roger Moore
Pope Benedict
@ GaysRKillers:
There is no species of life called “gays.”
There are human beings who engage in homosexual behavior, and those who do not.
Homosexuality is a behavior. It’s not a race or a gender or a species, like the apes are versus the homosapiens.
Including Pope Benedict on your wretched list is you imaging a great deal from a very bad state of mind.
“Scott
honey, Gay Mafia underestimates US.
That would make the mistake that a few powerful well financed queers run the show…they don’t.
Queers don’t work within a heirarchy. As enemies we are formidable, many of us invisibly blend into the background, that you never see, especially the lesbians. We aren’t only an opponent outside your company, we are inside too. We are EVERYWHERE. We also may just be the delivery guy who sends your essential overnight package to a slightly wrong address, we may be the secretary who knows every dime you padded on your expense account, or worse your tax return. We know every employee sneaking to the no tell motel with another employee.” — mark November 24th, 2008 – 9:30 pm
See? Like I wrote earlier here, the fascists are on the Left, their methods are assassination-gossip, the intentional ruination of those they target by destroying a person’s credibility, whether founded or not, usually by Leftwing irrational assumptions about those they target, somehow justifying their own hideous lack of ethics.
I suppose it makes it easy to ruin someone without guilt in doing so when you assume you’re “superior” because you’re, what, engaging in homosexual behavior?
How does that justify the hatred for others and the lack of personal responsibility among humanity such as “mark” expresses?
@ GaysRKi–ers:
There is no species of life called “gays.”
There are human beings who engage in homosexual behavior, and those who do not.
Homosexuality is a behavior. It’s not a race or a gender or a species, like the apes are versus the homosapiens.
Including Pope Benedict on your wretched list is you imaging a great deal from a very bad state of mind.
@ mark and “Rewriting History…”
In my experience, many homosexuals have a lot of mental problems and among them, a great deal of paranoia and anti-socialism.
The description of a hen-party by homosexuals comes to mind, all interacting “feverishly” with the latest imagined, often projected, “homosexuality” or “gay-ness” of whoever it is you despise or need to reduce in stature for your own gratification and self-justification.
I can’t say why that is often who and what many homosexuals are, but I do know they do engage in this sort of denigration of people consistently, constantly and with a lot of glee. It is cruel, unusually callous and destructive acting-out. It’s also why so many involved in homosexuality are so sarcastic, so consistently derisive of just about everyone and everything.
The difference between the blacklist of the 1950’s was that people were being ‘outed’ who were not actually communists. This is such a red herring. Prop 8 attempts to stop free Americans from exercising their basic personal freedoms. It’s wrong and if the Supreme Court ever has the guts to take on the issue, it will be shown to be unconstitutional. It is equal to not allowing black and white people to marry and it is fundamentally wrong.
So, Mark and any other Prop 8 blacklisters,
It’s ok to bankrupt businesses, call for people to lose their jobs, or lose promotions because of their beliefs. Only on the left can this happen. What if people who owned businesses or CEOs who were in support of McCain or Bush started to fire you or boycott your business? If this happened, you would be crying to the ACLU!! But we don’t see the ACLU stepping in, do we, Mark? This is the biggest threat to Free Speech ever. I say, let people be free to express support for whatever they want. Don’t you want that? It’s ok for you to be free to do what you want, but not ok for conservatives to express beliefs or support what they want.
Personally, it seems to me that this whole thing started when gay people were denied benefits if their partners died (when AIDS related deaths were at its highest in the 1990s). I say that the insurance companies let their partners have the right to collect their benefits, and that gay people have a civil union, but not a marriage. Just my opinion. BTW, in America, we are different because we are allowed to express our opinions, and should be allowed to without any threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Should the Constitution be rewritten to say that “we should be free to express opinions unless you don’t support gay people?”
So, if you are not free, then no one should be? I hope you don’t have a business; maybe some conservatives will boycott your business.
Mike,
The defense of traditional marriage and family and the attempt to restore them in minority communities predate SSM as civil right for decades.
For millions establishing traditional marriage and family to the special position it had 50 years ago when more than 80% of our families were traditional, means promoting this binding commitment as unique and superior to all alternatives.
Your redefinition of traditional marriage and the alternatives not only undermines our efforts, it vilifies the advocates of traditional marriage and demands others go along with that vilification, and demands that our side of the issue not be heard.
Many of us have a problem with the pressure to sell out friends and relatives, by going along with the lies and vilification of redefinition.
Too many of us may not follow their example, but we have our pride, dignity and loyalty.
We see our civil rights history co-opted and used against us by people who compare themselves and our heroes, while they redefine us as hypocrites and ignorant bigots equivalent to the racist who opposed inter racial marriage.
We grew up, or grew old with those advocating traditional family values, many of us love and sorely miss some of these people to this day, we won’t be discrediting them or their legacy anytime soon.
You argue redefining our values hurts no one and is all good.
Our history shows undermining traditional values destroys families and communities, we had a lot less crime and violence in the days of strong families even with crushing overt racism, this is a 24/7 reality for many of us.
What will happen if CONSERVATIVES stop going to movies…we WILL break them!!!! But Nooooo!Conservatives are so whimmmmpy now. I work with gay men who are teachers in a elementary school. Everyone goes out of their way to make them feeel so excepted and warm and fuzzzy. “Hows your partner doin?” sort of stuff. After the failure of prop. 8 they ignored me! because I’m a proud black Christian conservative, so that makes me the fault of their failure????! One looked at me and simply put up the peace sign with a look that asked, why? After all were one in the same. Sorry Dude, i think not!!!Man oh man…what a world!
Re: Mark’s rants -
As I said, you’re illiterate and hysterical. Actually I used the term “hysterical” first on this thread and, since you were impressed by the sound of the word, you immediately catched it and used it – hysterically wrong actually, fact which shows what an empty, superficial sack you are.
Further, all the quotations you use to support your elucubrations (like this word? take it, now you can impress your friends at your events), are extrapolations or partisan exaggerations – and since we reached the term partisan, here’s the last one for you.
Ever heard about the term “correlation”? Check it, fabulous, then understand that when you are talking about gay rights and struggle etc., actually what you describe is the “quarrelsome” component of the homosexual nature, which you inflict upon society (quarrelsomeness which handsomely complements other features of the gay psychology like superficiality, volatility, irresponsibility, fleetingness, etc.)
It’s not about rights or justice Markie thing, it’s about the fact that even when you are alone you quarrel and argue with your own shadow, hardly a psychological feature people around the world have ever, or do appreciate.
Now, enriched with the notion “correlation”, return under your humid rock to your perpetual quarrel with y/self and the world – as far as your events, fabulous, you can start designing a new type of theme party themed “4 thousand years of gays quarrelling about changing their mind too often about changing their mind too often about changing their mind too often about….”
That sure sums up your psychological makeup.
Drama Queens who throw hissy fits when they don’t get their way. This is just more proof. Yep, they’ve earned my respect. NOT.
Here’s another “positive” stereotype of gays getting shredded,consider;
If they are so wonderful at being “creative artists”, then why has the quality of television shows and films gone so low with guttural trash, as the ranks of gays in the industry has grown, that ratings are tanking the networks?. Hmmm…?, why can’t you guys write something better than Ugly Betty and other tripe like it? I can’t stand rap but one thing you can say about it is that it is somewhat popular, and probably NOT very gay friendly, just something to ponder.
All these hets who KNOW what gay is, don’t know sh*t. Were you born gay?
I didn’t think so.
Maybe heterosexual is JUST a behavior, there is no attraction or pheremones involved. You could change to being queer anytime you want.
Queers wrote nearly every comedy show including Frazier which was the highest rated and received the most awards, along with Mary Tyler Moore, Carol Burnett. Soap Operas which have run for 50 years are queer written.
I’ll put the talent of George Cukor and Vincette Minneli against most directors. Tennesse Williams wrote the best plays of the past Century, and Oscar Wilde the Century before that.
As for Jesus, the disciple he LOVED was St John the Divine, who was described as resting his head on Jesus’ chest during the Last Supper.
John was the ONLY disciple who didnt denounce Jesus or go into hiding, he attended the crucifixion with Mary. Jesus tells John to take care of his mother, and charges Mary to think of John AS HER SON. He cares for Mary until her death, even though she had other biological children after Jesus.John also went to the tomb to prepare Jesus body in a shroud. I see no comparable evidence to say Jesus was hetero.
btw. Jesus had 2 daddies.
From Tchaikovsky to Bowie and Elton John, some of the most beautiful and innovative music was written by queers.
Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays
So did God!
Genesis 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly
Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven
Hello Dave,
If conservatives want to restore respect for our values I believe we must restore the definitions of our arguments.
The preservation and restoration of traditional family values was not a response to SSM, the co-opting of our civil rights arguments was a response to the struggle to restore traditional values.
Silencing and denying our argument marginalized our opposition to their redefinition.
Redefining all who oppose them as ignorant haters and shouting down our arguments marginalizes and discredits us, and our opinions, values and beliefs that oppose them.
Any unintended collateral damage to our families and communities is unfortunate but tolerable to those who watch the effects of their redefining and discrediting our values and censoring our arguments because of how they weaken their agenda.
Tom
if we left writting television and movies to hets, it’d be nothing but Chuck Norris drek, NASCAR, and Blue Collar comedy routine
MORMONS attacked OUR LGBT families and attempt to make US the ONE minority not having Constitutional Rights under the equal protection clause.
NAACP, Mexican American Legal, Asian Law Associations, two other racial minority groups and 50 Jewish movers and shakers currently are working to overturn Prop 8. Because you made all of them nervous that THEIR Constitutional Rights couls as EASILY be removed by a 50 plus 1 vote.
YOU OVERPLAYED YOUR HAND!
in the original CA Suptreme Court ruling on page six, it states the right of marriage is so basic and integral to a person it can’t be removed by legislators or INITIATIVE.
this is over, and you LOSE.
Having or not having religious beliefs is a CHOSEN BEHAVIOR and is protected under the equal protection clause. YOU remove it for LGBTs and we will turn around and take YOUR rights.
Since there is no stigma anymore, for being a single parent, marriage is UNNECESSARY for society to confer any special rights to heterosexual parent(s). If some of the American citizens can’t marry, courts in the interest of equality of all citzens, could remove YOUR heterosexual rights to marrry.
Becareful what you begin to unravel, it might be YOUR rights next.
mark November 25th, 2008 – 9:56 am
All these hets who KNOW what gay is, don’t know ****. Were you born gay?
I didn’t think so.
Maybe heterosexual is JUST a behavior, there is no attraction or pheremones involved. You could change to being queer anytime you want.
Mark,
What happens with the many young men who were able the enjoy sex with so many girl friends, enough to father children, yet do time with nothing but guys and are released from prison with a desire to do the down low thing? While still dealing with women and fathering children.
They are a lot like men who having experienced oral sex develop a preference and still enjoy vaginal sex.
Why is one of the leading causes of HIV/AIDS amongst young black women, black men who picked it up in lock up?
If you can service women, are we not talking having choice and preference?
Kind of questions a lot of us minorities ask when told how to interpret what we see around us.
“Hitler…nope
Stalin…..nope
J. Edgar Hoover…cross dresser hetero
Quasimodo…FICTIONAL….dumb a$$!
Alexander….yes
Jack the Ripper…nope
Yassar Arrafat….yes
Ted Bundy…nope
Jeffrey Dahmer…yes
Mel Gibson…hell NO
Malcom X….nope
Pol Pot…nope
Pontus Pilate…nope
Wayne Gacey….nope
Rush Limbaugh (bi)…nope
Nancy Reagan….nope
Roger Moore…nope
Pope Benedict”…probably but celibate
Elanore Roosevelt….yes
Presidents Washington, Hamilton, Buchanan, and Lincoln…yes
Cathrine the Great…yes
Sappho…yes
Keats, Dickenson….yes
Be careful you do not turn into a pillar of salt!!
Do you think your anonymous Internet baiting antics reflect well on your cause? You and most the radical gay left put so many decent non-radical homosexuals in peril because you presume to speak on their behalf, as if there is one gay position, one acceptable gay modus operandi. Until the left stops bullying and intimidating differing points of view without resorting to name calling (homophobic!) or isolating easy prey (Mormons) while ignoring formidable foes (committed Muslims), large amounts of people are going to be rightfully turned off. People can see what you are doing. You HURT your cause. A civil debate can be had on this issue, but your ACTing UP only works against it. In fact, I half think you are a plant of the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover, someone created to hurt the cause you are ostensibly supporting.
gay people, who are at most 1% of the population, are highly represented on television. while latinos who are 14 – 15 % of the population are all relegated to one television show filled with homosexuals (ugly betty).
Gays DO have the same rights as heteros. You just choose to marry members of the same sex. However what you are CHOOSING to ignore is that you DO have the same rights. You can marry but you want to push it one step further.
Hey, I’ve figured out why everyone keeps engaging MARK in comments.
It keeps him away from our kids.
Big thanks to you.
New socialist/communistic Democratic definition of change: same ol’ same ol’
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Where is George Clooney? He doesn’t care about this blacklist…only the “old” blacklist that seemed so much more important!
The old one that he “didn’t” experience…the one that makes him look so righteous by speaking up against something someone else did years ago.
But where is he today? Where would he have really been on the issue back in the 50’s? Probably exactly where he is today…silent!
Where is the rest of the Hollywood “elite”?
They don’t care…let’s face it…most of them are gay and want to work again in Hollywood…they don’t care about anyone else!
Any blacklist…is wrong and needs to be corrected.
There is a very militant branch of gays in this country, and I don’t believe that all gays are this militant.
The militant ones are the ones who have sex randomly without condoms! In your face militant homosexuals…the ones that like to dress up and parade through our streets, the ones who like to perform sex acts in public…they have no values and no morals…they are immoral people!
They are wrong and need to be condemned by their community and all Americans!
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Billy Graham’s Prayer For Our Nation
‘Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to those who call evil good,’ but that is exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.
We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.
We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.
We have killed our unborn and called it choice.
We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.
We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem.
We have abused power and called it politics.
We have coveted our neighbor’s possessions and called it ambition.
We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.
We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.
Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!’
AMERICA SEEK GOD – ASK FOR HIS FORGIVENESS FOR THROWING HIM OUT OF OUR HOMES, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COURTS AND OUR COUNTRY…ASK HIM TO COME AND HEAL OUR NATION AND GRANT US PEACE AND BLESSINGS AS IN DAYS OF OLD!
WASN,T ALL THE MOVIE STAR QUEERS ON HERE WITH AN AD DONT VOTE WELL MABEY ALL THEIR FAG FRIEND LISTEN TO THEM AND DIDN,T VOTE IS THE REASO NO MORE FAG MARRIAGES IN CALIF HA HA HA SO NEXT TIME LISTEN AND DONT VOTE LOL
Hey Mark, who are you to say who is gay? People choose to be gay just like they choose to be vegatarians or morons, they are not born that way. They used to do it to get out of going into the army, now they all want to be in the army. 95% of women in the Army are Lesbos, its a fact. Pretty soon 95% of the so-called men in the Army will be gay. They want to be in the army so they can look at naked men and surrender to the Terrorists because they are into S&M.
Gays want to get married so they can get presents just like women. They are lazy and don’t want to work for a living like real men.
You can argue all you want but you can’t argue with the facts.
“In my experience, many homosexuals have a lot of mental problems and among them, a great deal of paranoia and anti-socialism.” — Fresh Water
You said it, but it is hard to know which came first. Does the psychosis give rise to the deviancy or does the psychosis result from trying to reconcile the deviancy with reality, and, inevitably, failing.
Psychiatrist Walter Langer in his OSS report, later published as “The Mind of Adolf Hitler, stated that paranoia is “inseparable” from homosexuality. Paranoia not only encompasses the well-known “they’re-out-to-get-me” syndrome; it also embraces the less publicized “delusions of grandeur.” (See “Mark’s” posts for examples of homosexual hubris and lists of bad television shows.)
“Hitler…nope” — Mark
Well, right here at the top of the list is one definitely open to question. See Lothar Machtan’s “Hidden Hitler”. Certainly Hitler had many, if not all, the earmarks of of a flutter butt. There just don’t seem to be any first-hand witnesses, but then, there wouldn’t be. Of course Hitler’s private “secretary” in prison and later Deputy Fuehrer was one Rudolf Hess, who for some reason bore the nickname “Fraulein Anna” in Nazi circles.
Mark,
Whether or not you feel all minority rights are in peril if you and yours can not redefine marriage, the way you go about redefining marriage hinders and weakens badly needed efforts to restore and preserve families and communities.
As schools and major media adopt your spin, redefine our activists as anti-gay marriage bigots, haters and homophobes, what do we replace the unique supremacy of traditional marriage and family with? All alternative forms of marriage including common-law are equal?
What do you argue regarding polygamy, or doing away with age of consent laws?
You may not endorse them or want to deal with them, but as you unravel the fabric that held together our old values, what responsibility do you hold for any unintentional collateral damage?
Not your problem?
As the pedophiles follow in your footsteps and turn to you as a misunderstood sexual minority that has known discrimination, what do you say?
When they redefine you as haters and hypocrites for not embracing them and joining their fight (as you did us), do you go along to get along?
When they discredit you by equating you to us, as you did us with racists, bigots and supremacists, do you go along to get along, and sell out those of yours who will not go along to get along?
Be careful what YOU unravel, be careful what YOU wish for.
Andrew,
I speak for myself, I’m not this sites queer emissary, maybe if 90% of the posts here weren’t from HOMOBIGOTS you’d have more LGBT posters.
As for ACT UP, they demonstrated when there were NO AIDS drugs and my friends and lover were left to die in the STREET.
Why the F*** would you think after OUR families were attacked by prop 8,and queer is going to be POLITE?
smooth move
95% of PEDOFILES are straight…a$$hole
mark – OUR families were attacked by prop 8…
Those aren’t families…a$$hole (never were, never will be, never CAN be)…just an illusion.
Andrew j Edgar Hoover was heterosexual, he crossed dress as MANY heterosexual men do.
I have to laugh…like you know all these “decent non-radical” homosexuals…LIAR!
Know what gay your G*D DAMN lie away? We don’t call ourselves homosexuals, and OUR friends don’t call us homosexuals.
Christian Reich H8ers call us homosexuals, or in a clinic the term homosexual is used…NEVER in the real world in the LGBT community…N_E_V_E_R.
This is the dead give away when Chistian Reich folks try to reachout to gays/queers…they refuse to call us what we call ourselves. If you won’t show even that baselevel amount of respect…we have nothing to say to each other.
gay should have been gave above
If you think LGBTs aren’t everywhere, I suggest you attempt to speak among “yourselves” something which would negatively impact LGBT’s lives, and see if it stays a secret…IT WON’T.
btw…how are you repigs doing now that you have ABSOLUTELY no voice in National politics, and LOST your precious Supreme Court just before you could overturn Roe, and instigate a THEOCRACY?
must really suck to be you guys
All is not lost mark. At least we aren’t homosexual.
It sucks to be gay too
but we manage to enjoy it
mark, you know you are a coward. you will always be one. you write with such venom from the safety of your anonymity. and to call me ‘christian reich’ when i am a secular jew. pathetic.
Andrew I will apologise for including you in the Christian Reich. I don’t apologise for charging you are a G*D DAMN LIAR, when you say you have homosexual friends, ya DON’T!
“Faith Groups Petition Supreme Court, Challenge Prop. 8
On Nov. 17, the Progressive Jewish Alliance (PJA) joined a coalition of Christian organizations in filing a petition asking the California Supreme Court to invalidate Proposition 8, the statewide ban on same-sex marriage.
The petition argues that the controversial ballot measure threatens the U.S. guarantee of equal protection, and was too dramatic a revision of the state Constitution to be passed by voters without Legislature approval.
“The Progressive Jewish Alliance is proud to join with our friends in the Christian community who likewise recognize that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,” PJA President Douglas Mirell said in a statement. “We hope our petition will remind the court and other faith communities of the dangers posed when a minority group … is deprived of equal protection by a simple majority vote. If Proposition 8 is allowed to take effect, there is nothing to stop voters from writing religious, racial or ethnic discrimination into California’s Constitution through the next statewide ballot initiative.”
Other signatories of the petition included the California Council of Churches, the General Synod of the United Church of Christ and the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations. The PJA is the only Jewish organization to take part.”
http://www.jewishjournal.com/los_angeles/article/forward_50_heavy_on_politicos_faith_groups_petition_supremes_re_prop_8_2008/
Many Jews are our friends, you just happen to NOT be one of them.
“If you think LGBTs aren’t everywhere, I suggest you attempt to speak among “yourselves†something which would negatively impact LGBT’s lives, and see if it stays a secret…IT WON’T.” –Mark
A paranoid’s attempt to inflict paranoia.
By the way, nobody can “negatively impact LGBT’s lives” like the “LGBTs” themselves. Homosexuality is its own punishment.
Of course I have gay friends. Not all my gay friends are conservative, but those that are — fear your kind. They’ve warned me what life is like in the gay ghetto, and how intolerant it is for diversity of thought. The reason I speak so loudly on this issue is because those people inspire me. They are good and decent. Unlike you.
Go play anonymous loser somewhere else. Until you state who you are, you a cowering freak of humanity.
I’ll come back when the CA Supreme Court overturns Prop 8 in June.
and LAUGH, and those yes on 8 businesses, the LDS church, Marriott Hotels, Cinemark Theaters, A-1 storage, and Utah tourism, will STILL be boycotted after Prop 8 is repealed, for the H8-ful way they attacked us.
Nobody can hold on to a GRUDGE with both hands like queers. I still won’t buy Coors or FL Orange Juice over 3 decades later.
I have lived in a gay ghetto, and it was a HELL of a lot safer than a small town having FAGGOT and AIDS sh*t sprayed all over my garage…and no one said a word. A neighbor who I’d say hello to one the way to the one store, came by my house the night after the graffiti and asked me not to talk to him in public. He had a lesbian sister.
I’m currently in rural Louisiana…not a gay ghetto within a two hour drive to NOLA.
I’ve had to fend off three 20 yo. with clubs, and the night my lover died of heart failure in the motel we stayed at so he could see his family one LAST time. Had a manager who screamed at me a half hour after he died they’d have to rip out the carpet and wallpaper because someone with AIDS died there.
So don’t tell me when I can and can’t be angry…EVER.
You Vichy queer aquaintances should fear me, I’m their worst nightmare.
have lived in a gay ghetto, and it was a HELL of a lot safer than a small town having F*GGOT and AIDS sh*t sprayed all over my garage…and no one said a word. A neighbor who I’d say hello to one the way to the one store, came by my house the night after the graffiti and asked me not to talk to him in public. He had a lesbian sister.
I’m currently in rural Louisiana…not a gay ghetto within a two hour drive to NOLA.
I’ve had to fend off three 20 yo. with clubs, and the night my lover died of heart failure in the motel we stayed at so he could see his family one LAST time. Had a manager who screamed at me a half hour after he died they’d have to rip out the carpet and wallpaper because someone with AIDS died there.
So don’t tell me when I can and can’t be angry…EVER.
“mark November 25th, 2008 – 12:17 am
Hitler and Stalin killed hundreds of thousands if gays”
Well they didn’t do a good enough job of eradicating your degenerate mental disorder (genetic defect if you believe that) did they? If it is a genetic disorder and you libs support abortion maybe parents will decide to finish what Stalin started. Maybe we will if you push hard enough.
Andrew RULES! Laura RULES! Thank you. Oh, for the fascistnaziqueermark you might be interested in talking to some fair minded gays which hang around, oh, say here: http://tammybruce.com/
mark, go back to your gay ghetto. If you don’t like living around normal people go pack with your own kind. You don’t have to tolerate us. We don’t have to tolerate you. You already have your own cities. Why don’t you all group together, form your own state and run the straights out? We’ll send our homosexuals to you if they want to go. It’s called Freedom of Association. It’s our right and not just yours. Quit trying to shove your gayness down our throats and go where you’re welcome if you don’t like us. Because we don’t like you. Ask any of the victims of gay rapists who don’t usually go to the police. We’ll all be better off if we stay with those of like mind. Quit trying to subvert and convert other groups and we’ll quit trying to convert your kind. Push harder if you want but don’t be surprised at the ferocity of the backlash you’ll create.
Here I am with my brother and nephew displaying our pride.
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Gay-Pride-Parade.jpg
I want to marry my brother and nephew and nobody can stop me!
Here’s a pic of me showing my pride:
http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_gay_070611_ssh.jpg
i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar . i am mark hear me roar .
Mark, you schmuck, if the vermin in black-robes in the California State Supreme court do overturn Propostion 8 (heaven forbid that happens), then they’ll be millions of people demonstrating/protesting outside the state court in California demanding that those stupid judges be impeached for overturning the peoples vote! Mark, that is not a democracy if the judges overturn the peoples vote, that’s a dictatorship man, and it’s clear to me Mark that you want to live under a dictatorship instead of REAL democracy!
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!!
Sean R.,
I see that you keep plugging this book title:
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder. On the face of it, the title seems a bit strange as our country was founded by liberals. Do you really believe that Thomas Jefferson and the rest of our founding fathers were crazy or mentally unstable?
So much hatred, showing from both sides. I am going to bring up several points in this post that I hope everyone will look at:
1. Can anyone here besides me even attempt to present a real, Christ-like view. We all have sinned, we all have fallen short of the glory of God. It is not just homosexuals, everyone has.
-Have you ever told a lie, have you ever lusted, have you ever hated? Do you not know that one sin violates God’s law and leaves us short of the perfection He requires.
-Do you not remember what you were before you were saved? How many of us lived lives full of sin, how many are still struggling? How many of us still suffer because of what we did to ourselves before we were saved?
-Jesus told us to love our enemy and yet venom spews from this page. At least 80% of the posts here are vile and hatefilled (I can tell what people feel most of the time.).
-Brothers it is the Christian who realizes that nothing he can do can pay for even a single one of his sins. They realize that God demands exactly what He says, absolute perfection.
Were it not for God’s grace through the blood of Christ Jesus, man would have no way to match up to that standard and no way to avoid the eternal separation from God in Hell that he would be sentenced to when faced with God’s righteous judgment.
Pray my brothers (and sisters) for those who read this and have not yet recieved Christ. Pray for the persecuted Church and for God’s protection on them.
To you who are unsaved. I urge you to take a look at yourself through the perfect eyes of God. Look at the 10 Commandments and see how you stand up to them. See how mankind looks in the mirror of the Truth.
I urge you to not wait any longer to accept Christ as Lord and Savior. That breath you just took, was a gift from God and only He knows how many you have left. Was this your last, will your next one be, only He knows.
Your age matters not, your health matters not, what matters is that we are all going to die. When we die, we will have to stand before a righteous God, the perfect Judge. One who sees not only every open deed, but those done in darkness, those done in secret, even those in the confines of your own mind.
There will be no justifying of self, you will be able to see yourself as God sees you. Even one sin is justly punished by Hell. How then does anyone get to Heaven?
Over 2,000 years ago, God sent His only Son to earth. He was born of a virgin, lived a perfect, sinless life, and then was killed as a sacrificial Lamb, to attone for the sins of all those who believe in him.
Does that mean that God is bound by death, by no means, for Christ Jesus rose from the dead! He conquered death and Hell, so that those who believe in him might be saved. I urge you to pray to God where you are now, you don’t have to be kneeling, you don’t have to have your eyes closed, just pray to God.
Tell Him that you realize you are a sinner and that you believe that Christ Jesus died for your sins and rose again. Repent from your sin, not just turn from them, but turn to God, and ask His forgiveness and mercy. Accept Christ Jesus as Savior and Lord of your life and begin to walk in the newness of life.
Join a good, Bible-believing church, if you don’t have one or are unable, then In Touch, with Charles Stanley is a good TV/radio church. You can find out more at Intouch.org.
I urge you, do not put this off. Death can strike anyone at anytime and now that you have this knowledge, what will you do with it?…
Continued:
And to mark, I would like to make a few points, in order of their appearance in your posts:
1. Jesus was not gay.
2. I really don’t care about girls either and I’m at the stage in my life where hormones should be at their top levels. I’m not homosexual, I just don’t care at this point in time.
3. I’m really sorry for what happened to you, please take my sincere sadness over it. I try not to be hateful in my speech, I just try to convey what the Bible says. If that makes you hate me, then so be it, I can take it.
I pray you will read my post, all of you, and that you will take it to heart. Don’t reject it because you feel you are good enough or that you don’t want to admit any sinfullness in your life. I know what this is like and that is why I come to you, bringing the Good News, and praying for you all.
Peace.
“I’m currently in rural Louisiana…not a gay ghetto within a two hour drive to NOLA.” — Mark
One presumes “NOLA” stands for New Orleans and not a new gay-born disease. Speaking of sad stories I seem to remember one night a big wind blew a whole ocean of water into NOLA. Property was destroyed, people died. The failure of governments was a national scandal. And yet one segment of the NOLA population decided to “carry on,” you might say, despite the general catastrophe surrounding them. Did they rally their resources to help save their fellow man? Not quite. They held a “Festival of Decadence” instead, the little rascals. Apparently the only catastrophes that count are “gay” catastrophes, such as the plethora of their disgustingly acquired diseases, and those are usually self-inflicted. The problem comes when they introduce their catastrophes into the mainstream, not to mention the bloodstream. Any society that tolerates homosexuality, much less enshrines it, does not remain a society for long. The writers of the Bible knew this from experience.
Farmer Bob
EIGHT Katrina evacuees came to stay at OUR home when they lost everything, but what was packed in the cars. They were Black and White, Gay and Straight, Male and Female Single and Married, none were relatives.They lost homes and businesses in New Orleans and Mississipi. We also took in ALL their pets as well.
WHAT the hell did YOU do to help anyone…EVER
I pray for you people uneffected with AIDS, you have no clue this disease is a test. Not for those who have the disease, it’s a test for you others, how you treat those who do.
one of the best prop 8 protests signs I’ve seen
” If heaven discriminates, I’m not going”
To you knuckle dragging haters who contemplate a Stalin reprissal against MY community.
In the Last Eight years, queers armed ourselves in EVERY State. When 12 of 13 states ginned up their races with HATE to re-elect the WORST G*D DAMN president EVER, we took that sh*t seriously.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/ZendoDeb/pp-ar-glock.jpg
Pick on someone your OWN CALIBER
It would be generous to say that Mark was a little loose with the facts when he was attempting to argue them. Having collapsed is credibility on the hard rock of reality, he now regales us with personal anecdotes, tall tales for which we must rely on his word, no less. Not what I’d call a safe bet.
We can, however, rely on his rage. It oozes from every pronouncement. He did in fact treat us to the declaration that: “Nobody can hold on to a GRUDGE with both hands like queers.”
Even this assertion is suspect. If queers would just keep their hands on their grudges and off of everything else, they wouldn’t have half their troubles. But alas. . .
Farmer Bob
of the Katrina evacuees we gave shelter, One was a NOLA white lawyer and his lover who’s a Black interior designer. One was a straight Black woman who worked for the Houston Opera company and is a well loved New Orleans singer in musicals, five more are an opera set designer now doing events, and his lover, and his srtraight brother and his wife and a woman co worker who’s husband remained in New Orleans. Two more are a straight couple who lost everything in Waveland MS, business and new home, AND an apartment in NOLA, she runs a linen rental business and her husband performs as a musician in a landmark NOLA club.
and three dogs, one a large boxer.
Specific enough for ya A$$wipe?
Mark feels that specificity is the same as credibility. In the hands of a “gay”, it usually just means that fiction is more embellished than reality. The reason “gays” are so heavy into the arts is not because they have talent, it is because they live in a world of make-believe.
Farmer Bob
Your familarity with BOAR teats explains a lot about you…cupcake
Mark the miscreant wrote: “As for Jesus, the disciple he LOVED was St John the Divine, who was described as resting his head on Jesus’ chest during the Last Supper.
John was the ONLY disciple who didnt denounce Jesus or go into hiding, he attended the crucifixion with Mary. Jesus tells John to take care of his mother, and charges Mary to think of John AS HER SON. He cares for Mary until her death,…”
O MY GAWD, if you think the above information is somehow “PROOF” that Jesus was homosexual, you are pathetically DEPRAVED… (O, but we already KNEW THAT about you, Markie, didn’t we?!?!)
By the way, LOVE does not equate to “homosexual,” even when it is a disciple resting his head on the chest of his Master.
Mark, you should QUIT while you are BEHIND!
The “gay” formulation is quite simple: Everybody talented or good must be “gay.” Everybody who’s not must be a plodding heterosexual lunkhead, a “breeder” whose sole purpose is the provision of shiny young “rug rats” for the delight of pederasts everywhere. Thus, the only “good” disciple could only be a “gay” lover of the son of God. Anything else is too terrible to imagine, and imagine they will.
You dumb a$$es denying the possibility Jesus could have loved men, you show me PROOF you have to base your belief Jesus was heterosexual?
I’ve survived a male lover, and know what was expected that I would take care of his mother, and I did. Jesus asking his mother to regard his beloved disciple AS HER SON, is MUCH more rational by my explanation than by yours.
I never claimed every good or famous man was queer. JFK, MLK, RFK, FDR, Clinton, Nelson Mandella, Springsteen just to name a few men I admire(d) all perfectly nice heterosexuals.
In contrast some absolutely foulest loathsome bottom feeders like Ken Mehlman, Scott McClellan, Karl Rove, Lindsey Graham, Charlie Crist, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey graham, David Dreier, Mark Buse (McCain’s chief of staff) Robert tranyham (Santorum’s communication director), Glenn Murphy sucky RNC youth president giving a sleeping youth a hummer, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Jeff Guckert/Gannon, Matt Drudge, Roy Cohn,and Ted Haggard..all queer as three dollar bills
Mark, the PROOF that Jesus was NOT a homosexual is that JESUS WAS NOT A HYSTERIC!
:-)
Link: gayagenda.com/2008/11/a-day-without-gay-december-10-2008/
“A DAY WITHOUT GAY”??? (DECEMBER 10TH)…
SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF GAY EMPLOYEES WILL BE *SACKED* (NO PUN INTENDED) ON DECEMBER 11TH!!!!
WHAT AN ABSURD BUNCH OF BU11CR*P!!
“If heaven discriminates, I’m not going” — Mark
Well why else do you think we call it heaven?
Farmer Bob,
There supposedly are twelve gates to heaven with each disciple’s name on them, and many mansions.
I’ll go through st john’s gate and I doubt our paths will cross….THANK YOU JESUS!
btw. as on Earth the gay section of heaven will be the most beautiful and the most fun, and all the straights will be dying to get into it, to see what the COOL souls are doing.
Mark is so deluded as to be assuming that Jesus would open the Pearly Gates for him & his ilk?!?!? Don’t you think Jesus would take exception to you guys labeling him as a H0M0 and creating “art” like jars of urine with crucifixes inside???
Blasphemers,
YOUR image of Jesus was CREATED by MY people.
Your most beloved images, Mary annunciation, Mary in the grotto, Last Supper…by Leonardo who at 17 yo was busted for being gay.
Pieta, Last judgement, Creation and every other image on the Sistine Chapel…Michaelangelo
QUEER AS F***
seems I brought some interest and participation into a lack luster blog. This thread has nearly 4 times the entries your other highest rated thread has. buh bye
Yes, do you know how old John was?
Secondly, the Bible says that liars, blasphemers, adulterers, theives, homosexuals, murderers and other will not enter the Kingdom. Anyone who has ever sinned once sums up that statement.
Nick, the book that’s called “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” is a great book, yes the author of the book condemns todays liberals Nick, he doesn’t condemn or make fun of liberals from yesteryear (ie, FDR, Wilson, Truman, etc.). You see Nick, the liberals from the old days were patriotic, sort of like us conservatives and you mention Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson was patriotic to this country, he didn’t put down or attack America like what some of you liberals are doing today.
And I disagree with you on other thing Nick, no I don’t think this country founded by liberals, I don’t agree with that, George Washington was not a liberal. And the liberals from the old days were not mentally unstable either, if you know history Nick, the libs from the 1960s started to use drugs, ie, marijaunna, prozac, prozac-like drugs, etc. and that’s still going on til this very day Nick with some of the American left wing.
PS, Nick, what do you think about the terrorist attack in India by our good friends (being sarcastic) the islamofascist?
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!!!
Leonardo was not “busted” for being “gay.” He was accused of it *anonymously* by means of a note dropped into something akin to a suggestion box. Now, centuries later he’s accused of it anonymously again, this time by the poster named “Mark.” Mark tells us he’s getting into heaven despite his breaking the commandment against bearing false witness. He assumes he’ll get in through some gate reserved for special “cool” people. If there is such a gate, and God is consistent, it could only be entitled “Abomination.”
Leonardo late in his life had a young man who was his companion who was a notorius little thief, which is well documented.
Mona Lisa is Leonardo’s self portait IN DRAG.They’ve compared the features to Leonardo’s other self portraits, NOW you know why Mona Lisa is smiling, it’s the biggest joke on the Art World the most precious painting on EARTH is a drag queen,,,HA!
Mark and other h0m0s who INSIST on DESECRATING ALL THINGS HOLY are poor, miserable fools who secretly HATE THEMSELVES, thus feeling it necessary to strike out against anything SACRED because they feel so WORTHLESS and DIRTY and DISGUSTING THEMSELVES.
It is called PROJECTION.
You Mark and your ilk need PSYCHIATRIC HELP.
Mark’s Wishful Thinking NOTWITHSTANDING, here is the REAL MONA LISA story:
(From wikipedia)
Mona Lisa is named for Lisa del Giocondo,[8][9][10] a member of the Gherardini family of Florence and Tuscany and the wife of wealthy Florentine silk merchant Francesco del Giocondo.[7] The painting was commissioned for their new home and to celebrate the birth of their second son, Andrea.[11]
The sitter’s identity was ascertained at the University of Heidelberg in 2005 by a library expert who discovered a 1503 margin note written by Agostino Vespucci.[8] Scholars had been of many minds, identifying at least four different paintings as the Mona Lisa[12][13][14] and several people as its subject. Leonardo’s mother Caterina in a distant memory, Isabella of Naples or Aragon,[15] Cecilia Gallerani,[16] Costanza d’Avalos—who was also called the “merry one” or La Gioconda,[14] Isabella d’Este, Pacifica Brandano or Brandino, Isabela Gualanda, Caterina Sforza, and Leonardo himself had all been named the sitter.[17][6] Today the subject’s identity is held to be Lisa, which was always the traditional view.[8]
A margin note by Agostino Vespucci from October 1503 in a book in the library of the University of Heidelberg identifies Lisa del Giocondo as the subject of Mona Lisa.
The painting’s title stems from a description by Giorgio Vasari in his biography of Leonardo da Vinci published in 1550, 31 years after the artist’s death. “Leonardo undertook to paint, for Francesco del Giocondo, the portrait of Mona Lisa, his wife….”[5] (one version in Italian: Prese Lionardo a fare per Francesco del Giocondo il ritratto di mona Lisa sua moglie).[18] In Italian, ma donna means my lady. This became madonna, and its contraction mona. Mona is thus a polite form of address, similar to Ma’am, Madam, or my lady in English. In modern Italian, the short form of madonna is usually spelled Monna, so the title is sometimes Monna Lisa, rarely in English and more commonly in Romance languages such as French and Italian.
At his death in 1525, Leonardo’s assistant Salai owned the portrait named in his personal papers la Gioconda which had been bequeathed to him by the artist. Italian for jocund, happy or jovial, Gioconda was a nickname for the sitter, a pun on the feminine form of her married name Giocondo and her disposition.[7][19] In French, the title La Joconde has the same double meaning.
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Wish you “GAY-APOLOGISTS” would stop rewriting history and knock off trying to claim every GOOD or BEAUTIFUL THING as “yours”–or else try to DESECRATE it… like the RAINBOW and JESUS.
Why can’t you people just GROW UP?
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Real Mona Lisa
first…wikipedia is your source…OMFG
are you THAT stupid???
“Besides a similar facial appearance to several other paintings by
Leonardo there is the fact that the Master kept the Mona Lisa and later
bequeathed it to his apprentice Salai. Leonardo also kept his John the
Baptist, which besides looking very similar to the Mona Lisa, is painted
in an androgynous fashion, complete with the “fine curly hair” of Salai,
as described by Vasari. Taking this into account, it is entirely possible
that Leonardo used his attractive young apprentice as the model for
many of his works. If theories about Leonardo’s homosexuality are correct,
then the Mona Lisa could have been an homage to his long-time friend
and lover”
http://www.lifeinitaly.com/heroes-villains/leonardo-da-vinci.asp
and
Some people have suggested that the Mona Lisa
is a portrait of Leonardo in drag – the features
of the woman can be overlaid with a Leonardo
self-portrait.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/03_march/28/leonardo_pack.pdf
and
Mona Lisa Revealed ~ Who Am I?
For centuries the question has perplexed the world who was Leonardo to Mona Lisa?
Was she really a woman or just a figment of Leonardo da Vinci’s imagination, was Mona, Leonardo himself in drag?
http://www.monalisarevealed.com/news.html
“Today the subject’s identity is held to be Lisa, which was always the traditional view.”–The Real Mona Lisa
There’s a lot to be said for traditional views. Turns out fresh air, sunshine, vegetables and cod liver oil are good for you after all. Cigarettes were thought to be “coffin nails” long before studies confirmed it. And homoism is a coffin for its practitioners and still the same old abomination that was known to the ancients.
Farmer Bob what you don’t know about Ancients is phenomenal.
Read Sappho’s poetry
look at the monument Alexander the great built for the Sacred Band of Thebes he defeated and they died to the LAST MAN, because the army entirely made of gay couples wouldn’t run off the battlefield like BREEDERS, whos wives were back home and couldn’t witness their cowardice, they had the person the loved with them and would die before they showed dishonor in front of their lover.
read Apollo and Hyacinth myth
just read something fer chissakes so you don’t sound like a complete idiot about ancients.
“look at the monument Alexander the great built for the Sacred Band of Thebes he defeated and they died to the LAST MAN,” — Mark
They died to the last homo, and that is a good thing. This has much less to do with courage than it has to do with pronounced homosexual suicidal tendencies. Homosexuality is a death cult, even to the point of deriving sexual pleasure from death. What is a “bug-chaser”? What is a “gift-giver”? Only such abomination as homosexuality could give birth to such concepts.
As to “breeder,” one would have to say it is better to breed children than diseases.
As to Sappho, the supposed lesbo, you can’t have it both ways, pumpkin. Sappho condemned the gay-boy “sacred band” glorification of war. “Sacred” band indeed. More like boys in the band run amok in their usual mode of hysteria. We see them in every “gay” pride parade. Nothing sacred there.
The World Economic System Will End
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_IMCyj8Jwg
Fear Not, For Your God Is Coming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoJ5hCp8zL0
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Andrew,
I am sick of these whiney Yes on 8 folks gay and straight throwing around the “blacklist” term.
The last queer who blacklisted was Roy Cohn, and he did it with McCarthy.
Blacklist is a GOVERNMENT agency demanding names of those they disagreed with, and punished by having employers name names and not hiring them. It was top down. Boycotting businesses which have anti-gay management, is merely NOT paying for your OWN discrimination.
btw. No One put a gun to anyone’s head to give to either side to prop 8, and everyone who did give, knew the names would be PUBLIC.
The ONE group who has admitted commiting FELONIES of blackmail letters is the yes on prop 8 side.
here’s an enjoyable little prop 8 video you should get posted….babycakes
you’ll hear it from Coast to Coast
http://www.queerty.com/margaret-chos-ballad-of-the-closetd-gay-mormons-20081124/#comment-100907