Ohio Plumber Who Confronted Obama on Taxes Says Answer ‘Scared Me Even More’

"I'm not trying to make statements here, but I mean, that's kind of a socialist viewpoint."

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October 14, 2008 at 10:19 pm - Fox News
Dateline: Oregon, OH
Dan, St. Louis USA   October 14th, 2008 - 10:28 pm

It scares me too!

Sundowner   October 14th, 2008 - 10:28 pm

Amen! Nothing stopping liberals from giving as much of their cash to government right now the way it is. BO doesn’t need to be living in that mansion, let’s move a few homeless people in with he and the family. If our congress feels the need to redistribute the wealth then let them lead by example. Let’s tear them down first, then see if the experiment really works, after all, it would be a first planet-wide.

Eileen   October 14th, 2008 - 10:30 pm

You weren’t the only one it scared…but be thankful that the “Messiah of Islam” slipped and let it come out!

Hopefully, it woke up alot of people who were considering voting for him and his socialist/communistic Democratic policies that will drive this country into the ground!

The “Messiah of Islam” is hiding alot of things he won’t reveal…just yet!

He is unqualified to be the President of the United States.

This week I cast my vote for the only “all American” candidate for the Presidency, President Elect McCain. He will put country first and keep our democracy free!

VOTER REVOLUTION HERE AND NOW!

Mike D   October 14th, 2008 - 10:36 pm

Who is OBAMA?
OBAMA is:
“SPREAD THE WEALTH”, ACORN, Ayers, Resko, Wright, Rashid Khalidi,ODINGA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, NO FULL doner list disclosure, NO ORIGINAL Birth Certificate, “Most Liberal” in Senate, Gun Control, No right to self defense in home, Late Term Abortion, Health Care as a RIGHT, More Government Entitlements, More Taxes, Talk with all nations as equals, Pull the troops out now, The war is unwinable, Can’t we all just get along,
I’ll give you what you want….

Get the picture….

Friends and Associates do mean something…

VIRGINS do not hang around with prostitutes, patriots do not hang around with terrorists.
Ther can be ONLY one result!!!
It IS that simple!!!

William Ayers – American Terrorist
Frank Davis – mentor and radical card carrying memeber of the Communist Party
Raila Odinga – Cousin, Radical Islamist
Raul Reyes – Columbian Terrorist
Antonio Rezko – Slum Lord
Professor Khalidi – Muslim Terrorist Supporter and got Obama into Harvard….
Reverend Wright – Racist Muslim Supporter/Preacher, Anti-American
Reverend James Meeks – Racist
Reverend Louis Farrakhan – Racist Nation of Islam / Faux Preacher
Nadhmi Auchi – Muslim Billionaire
Sohaib Abassi – Muslim Millionaire

Mike D   October 14th, 2008 - 10:37 pm

Who is OBAMA?
OBAMA is:
“SPREAD THE WEALTH”, ACORN, Ayers, Resko, Wright, Rashid Khalidi,ODINGA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, NO FULL doner list disclosure, NO ORIGINAL Birth Certificate, “Most Liberal” in Senate, Gun Control, No right to self defense in home, Late Term Abortion, Health Care as a RIGHT, More Government Entitlements, More Taxes, Talk with all nations as equals, Pull the troops out now, The war is unwinable, Can’t we all just get along,
I’ll give you what you want….

Get the picture….

Friends and Associates do mean something…

VIRGINS do not hang around with prostitutes, patriots do not hang around with terrorists.
There can be ONLY one result!!!
It IS that simple!!!

William Ayers – American Terrorist
Frank Davis – mentor and radical card carrying memeber of the Communist Party
Raila Odinga – Cousin, Radical Islamist
Raul Reyes – Columbian Terrorist
Antonio Rezko – Slum Lord
Professor Khalidi – Muslim Terrorist Supporter and got Obama into Harvard….
Reverend Wright – Racist Muslim Supporter/Preacher, Anti-American
Reverend James Meeks – Racist
Reverend Louis Farrakhan – Racist Nation of Islam / Faux Preacher
Nadhmi Auchi – Muslim Billionaire
Sohaib Abassi – Muslim Millionaire

grik   October 14th, 2008 - 10:46 pm

I don’t know why those of you who elected G W BUSH and his NEOCONS are so concerned about liberal spending. How can that be when its YOUR PEOPLE who have bankrupted this country. Not the wildest most prolifigate Democrat in American history has even come close to this irresponsibility. GIVE ME A BREAK. Shake some of the pebbles out of your heads.

Be afraid of the mirror.

Travis   October 14th, 2008 - 10:57 pm

Another slip of the tongue, just like “My Muslim Faith…”

Brandon   October 14th, 2008 - 11:05 pm

This man’s “me me me” attitude didn’t sound very “Country First” to me.

Sorry you’re in the few percent who are going to have to pay some more taxes, while providing relief to the majority. Boo hoo.

COUNTRY FIRST

MichelleObamaPorno   October 14th, 2008 - 11:12 pm

Check out the Michelle Obama Porno on Youtube, its a Gasser!

Fisherman   October 14th, 2008 - 11:16 pm

grik…you’re an idiot. That’s like saying “He robbed a bank, so why can’t I?” Pretty childish mentality on your part.

Believe me, we didn’t want the CURRENT administration to spend like a drunken sailor. And, we don’t want the NEXT administration to spend like a drunken sailor, either…no matter who wins.

Smaller government is better for everyone, unless a person isn’t willing to support themselves and is relying on the government to support them.

Spread What?   October 14th, 2008 - 11:21 pm

It is not only your wealth the Marxist Messiah-O wants to spread–it is your legs.

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -G. Gordon Liddy

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson

Domination tactics   October 14th, 2008 - 11:24 pm

1:08 pointing at mans chest as he speaks

1:14 puts hand on mans left shoulder

Mac-101   October 14th, 2008 - 11:25 pm

You people are a bunch of Ingaramius. How many of you all been to ALL 57 States like Sen Obama? IF you really listen to him it’s easy to see his collectiveness theology! Soon all of PIGS will be equal. A few PIGS will be more equal than others!

grik   October 14th, 2008 - 11:26 pm

My point is that Democrats are not going to spend like drunken sailors. And I bet what gets spent at least has thought behind it for the well being of the citizens of this country.

Smaller does not always mean better.

Sara   October 14th, 2008 - 11:26 pm

There is little left to say beyond Obama’s own words.

While the producers in our society freak out at his off-the-cuff admission, the “Brandon’s” of the world (see above) are greedily anticipating their “rebate checks”.

God Help Us.

http://www.sarahforamerica.org

Alice   October 14th, 2008 - 11:29 pm

I got a woman at work that her daughter never wanted to graduate is going on her second child,partys hardy and she is thrilled with the Obama plan. I guess I will have to work overtime this Saturday to get ready to share the wealth.

WHAT?   October 14th, 2008 - 11:33 pm

@girk
Democrats are not going to spend like drunken sailors

are you stoned or just stupid, who do you think blocked in 2004 the attempt to institute some controls on Fannie & Freddie?

Neal E   October 14th, 2008 - 11:37 pm

Brandon…You must be on the receiving end of the government money redistribution plan. Or you’re some kid that pumps gas…or your a rich kid that feels guilty.

Those of us that work hard and try to make a better life for our families don’t need Uncle Sam reaching in our wallets even deeper.

Americans are the most generous people on the planet. We have given the most in aide to foreign lands in dollars and in blood.

We don’t need to mandate generosity.

Mac-101   October 14th, 2008 - 11:38 pm

Grik, Do you really think President Bush is a conservative? He purposefully destroyed the Repub party spending money on everything except serving the national debt.

Sen Obam is already promising up to 1.3 TRILLION more in spending. The shame is that I can’t say Sen McCain will be able to control spending either. The country is bankrupt!

Fisherman   October 14th, 2008 - 11:47 pm

grik…Ah, so you haven’t been paying attention to Obama’s tax and spend plan.

Jules Crittenden » Regular Joe   October 14th, 2008 - 11:57 pm

[...] plumber buttonholes Obama on taxes. vid at Fox: “His answer actually scared me even more … He said he wants to distribute wealth [...]

m-antony   October 15th, 2008 - 12:06 am

Experienced the same thing with Harold Ford Jr. He was a rising superstar, went up to him shook his hand and it was a “limp fish”. Looked him in the eyes and saw a liar. These are not people above you, actually ,they serve you. Tell them to f-off if you do not trust in their lies. Don’t let them (obama) “hoodwink” “bamboozle” This is the message the idot is speaking to you? Take a good look around, you want a black, because you feel “we are past that”? Look at ACORN, you will see the reparations due, the guilt, the obscene . Get past Micky Mouse and let Garfield eat your butt up. Time to fight back, time to let the ACORN nuts drop, hit the ground and crack. “Get in their face, argue with them”. I say, “step off b!tch”. “Come correct, and STFU”.Play the “race card” often enough and you will get caught “playin the dozens”.Which will warrant a “you know what”.

Sigh   October 15th, 2008 - 12:49 am

Joe Wurzelbacher for President! Imagine this guy staring down our enemies and taking no crap. I bet Obama had to change his diaper after talking to this guy who asked Obama what McCain refuses to. Wake up John! Learn something from this man.

Geeeeeeorge Issajoke   October 15th, 2008 - 12:57 am

We all know who Obama is and we’re still not electing McCain and his Alaskan nursemaid.

john   October 15th, 2008 - 1:37 am

what obama was saying was he was going to share it with his buddies on fannie mae and freddie mac, his peeps on welfare, ayers, rev. wright, acorn, and his muslim buddies in the middle east and kenya.

seminal   October 15th, 2008 - 3:23 am

From what I’ve read here, most of you people should let your pet[of choice] vote for you. You have no idea of nothing except what Fox, Rush and Hannity has told you. Study up, you’re about to GIVE 700 billion dollars to the criminals in the Banking sector. I don’t think it’s poor people, or charity you should be worry about. Don’t worry, if you keep thinking that way, you’ll still be blaming the wrong people.

McCain has cost all of us dearly. Be it, crashing jets, Keating 5, even this present financial crash. He wants Phil Gramm as his Sec Treasury. He’s a problem, he made Enron legal. McCain has run hand in hand with Bush to rush war with Iraq.

Trust me, you’re blowing more every day in Iraq, than food stamps ever printed. Get a clue.

Vote Obama, and lets begin healing again. McCain isn’t the doctor, he’s the cancer. Palin isn’t worth my typing trouble. She’s just Bush, and McCain with pig pink lipstick on, and she’s got a spoonful of brains. Her Husband is Hillary, only he stands when he urinates.

Victor   October 15th, 2008 - 5:02 am

Gotta love Seminal’s comments, McCain crashed 5 planes? Lol even Anneberg backed ( ahem anneberg challenge aka Obama/Ayers money fund ) factcheck.org dispelled that myth.

Keating 5 ( failed to mention there was 4 democrats and even the investigator [ who btw is a democrat ] said that McCain was unjustly brought into the investigation, democrats didn’t want to be caught alone with the football so they needed a republican scape goat, his words not mine ) .

Phil Gramm? lol Idiot he named Warren Buffet as his first choice then Meg Witman as his two choices as Treasury Sec . I see you keep listening to the myth about the 1999 law which has little to do with the housing crisis ( cough 1977 CRA act cough ) .

Last but not least do you REALLY think McCain is Bush? Do you really think McCain is going to ever forgive Bush for the comments about his adopted daughter back in 2000? Please you liberals loved McCain before this election now he is the enemy ?

I am moderate republican ( pro military,pro conservative economics etc etc, my view point differs in abortion mainly ) but voting for Obama will not only bring more strife, you are gonna see a new divide in this country that no long stands on racial grounds but on class warfare rhetoric.

Obama CLEARLY exposed himself with those comments. I guess it was bound to happen.

Ocsan   October 15th, 2008 - 5:06 am

Are the pro Obama Hollyweird Dems going to spread their wealth? Streisand, Sarandon, Damon, Lohan, Liman, Clooney, Spielberg, Di Caprio and many others… Perhaps not!

OHB4P   October 15th, 2008 - 5:32 am

m-Anthony you are f**king idiot…you suffer from the I-am-white-and-I-am-entitled false sense of security and “freedom” STFU

I dont see anything more “socialist” than our government using $250 Billion of tax payers money to buy equity shares in various banks.

The truth is racist whites are masking their hatred for empowered blacks/mixed race blacks…with blatant lies of Obama faith and past friends. It is a damn shame.

Sadly, these whites are generally conservatives and republican. The bigger issue is how the RNC has put wool over your eyes. The ONLY people who benefit of being republican is the ultra-rich. Which make the top 1% in this country…but since they are a small percentage of voters, to garner more votes…they sell snakesoil story of “guns and religion” to poor/mid/upper whites. They cant think for themselves and they buy into the facade of the ultra rich sharing the same sentiments. RNC dont care about you…they care about themselves…and I can believe most reps dont see that. Dems benefit “the people”, Rep “benefit” the ultrarich.

Felicia   October 15th, 2008 - 6:56 am

Obama and his cronies better inform Oprah, Barbra Streisand, P Diddy, Matt Damon, Madonna, Halle Barry, Pam Anderson, Rosie O’Donnell, Kanye West, Sarah Silverstone, Eva Longoria, David Letterman, Jon Stewart, Forrest Whittaker, Denzel Washington, John Travolta, heck most of Hollywood, Congress, the House, drive-by media, CEO,etc. etc. that they are the elite DEMOCRATS who will be on the giving end of Obama’s plan.
I will take their money after all it was my money that gave them their mansions, boats, furs, vacations, etc. etc.

Patrick C.   October 15th, 2008 - 7:20 am

Finally someone is asking Obama some direct questions about his plans and future policies. The mainstream media has avoided asking questions like these. Obama mainly gets softballs lobbed at him from the MSM. It take an ordinary guy to ask the right question about Obama’s tax policies. The candidate’s answer is chilling. If I were a small businessman right now, I’d be voting for anyone but Obama. Obama will kill small business and will increase unemployment in small businesses.

Sundowner   October 15th, 2008 - 7:49 am

OHB4P,

What a nice rant, did they teach you that in liberal school? Ever stop to think of why the US was forced into buffing up the economics system? I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t the republicans fault. *tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock* Yeah I don’t blame ya, kind of hard to answer anything when you can’t blame a republican for it.

As for the rest of your class warfare garbage, just more of the same from the left talking points. You must have days when you get really tired of playing the lemming for your party.

Rico   October 15th, 2008 - 7:50 am

Obama Wealth Spread tm:I can’t believe it’s not earned.

Um Good! Pass it on.

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2417&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Janie   October 15th, 2008 - 8:00 am

Grik, it was reported this morning that Obama voted on the mortgage reform (to rein in Freddie and Fannie) in 2005. His vote was “Present”. In case people who don’t know what “Present” means (I’m talking to the Obama supporters since it seems they don’t know how politics works) “Present” means “I don’t want to make a decision”.

Great, just the type of guy we need as our President. Someone who doesn’t know what to do and can’t make a decision.

Chessie   October 15th, 2008 - 8:15 am

You know this is how socialism take hold. People in America are so greedy to get a little more they are willing to look past the fact that it is being stolen from people like this hardworking guy.

I weep for the America I once knew.

The Rude News » Blog Archive » Share The Wealth   October 15th, 2008 - 10:38 am

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Craig Allen   October 15th, 2008 - 12:31 pm

grik, just google community reinvestment act, follow the list of brain dead democrats that pushed it along, Carter, Clinton, etc…

Note that Bush and McCain warned about it in 05

Bush tried to fix the problem, but was shot down by the brain dead democrats.

And no, I am NOT a republican.

The fact is they both smell like a skunk, but Obomination IS a skunk

Jack Kennedy   October 16th, 2008 - 6:16 am

ohb and seminal – you libs can spew all the hate and vitriol that liberals are known for and it wont matter

cuz

obama would divide this country like never before

obama would get the vitriol heaped on bush for 8 years and have to come up with the decreasing taxes his policies will bring on

I, for one, have plans to offshore more of my business and labor to neutralize the obama factor

and it will hurt the anerican worker

but if the american worker wants the radical, i guess they will have to deal with the unintended consequences

the Real Americans will not stand for obama type culture of race hatred, descrimination and division

further reparations will not be paid – the welfare, quotas, affirmative action and other black giveaways are the limit

Mark   October 16th, 2008 - 1:19 pm

Absolutely unbelievable! I am just blown away by this very tiny sliver of video that Fox chose to show us. I am astounded that Joe the Plumber has become a discussion point via 20-some mentions in the third debate and endless reference today on cable news and in the blogosphere. Americans love talk about business, but they know squat about it.

Apparently Obama missed the point, McCain missed the point, all of the news people who have access to these tapes missed the point, and all of the people here on this video blog missed the point. One really has to wonder how long it will go on with only a nobody like me screaming for some genuine business analysis.

JOE THE PLUMBER DOESN’T MAKE $250,000! He tells us that straight out in this Fox piece. He’s about to buy a business that grosses $250,000 to $270,000 a year. Or at least his *I’m getting ready to buy a company* wording certainly leads us to that conclusion. To actually profit by $250,000, the business Joe is buying would have to be reporting more like a million in revenues. Is that what he meant to say? Even if his business will gross $1-million and net $250k he still would NOT PAY ANY ADDITIONAL tax under the Obama plan because it’s a progressive tax and he’s at the bottom of the bracket. New Taxes for Joe if his biz grosses $1-million = $0 = zilch.

If Joe is indeed buying a company that pulls in $250-270K as it seems he is saying. Then let’s consider what he really makes. Let’s say he is paying two other junior plumbers at $35K, plus $60K for himself. He’s already spent roughly half of his revenues, and that doesn’t even account for any perks or FICA or whatever, which typically burdens wages by about a third. Salaries alone could blot up $173k of his $270k. Now don’t forget, he mentions that he’s considering buying some trucks. Those will be on his depreciation schedule, and all of the gas and maintenance will be deductible. And then there’s the expenses of replacing tools and maybe he carries some plumbing inventory. Is there an office with lease payments and/or a parts storage building? What about an office person? Advertising costs!

This guy’s going to be lucky to actually take home the $60K we already gave him.

Joe the plumber is not a story about Obama Tax Plan. Well… except that Obama will give this guy a middle class tax cut. And oh yeah, a tax credit toward the health care plan of his employees which thankfully cuts out a chunk of the one-third salary burdening formula I mentioned above. Simple fact is that this guy comes out ahead on Obama’s plan and he doesn’t even realize it. Nobody seems to get it – not even Obama. By the way, I recommend listening to the complete interaction between Joe and Barack on YouTube. Obama makes several good points to Joe, and there’s no mention of Robin Hood or peasants. If Obama would have gotten a complete and clear picture of the guy’s business, I think both of them would have realized that Obama’s plan is actually designed for Joe and puts him right in the sweet spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPBxiVxVEw

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