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Unbelievable.

To add insult to injury is the fact that so many people support this tax and spend liberal. When are Americans going to wake up and smell the coffee and face the facts: Barack Obama will raise taxes.

Palin has got brass ones. She is hands down the most willing to be real of any of the candidates. And she has taken more attacks with true grit than any of the other guys. Especially that whiner obama.

“Spread the wealth”? First Obama is channeling the spirit of Eugene Debbs, now it’s Huey Long.

When he gets to Redd Foxx, text me.

… when I look into obama’s eyes …I see I.R.S.
… come on hardworking taxpayers , don’t you want to give more to people , who don’t work ?

… drug test all welfare recipents .
… heck , drug test all voters .

… is robert byrd really still alive ?

Obama’s 95% Illusion:

http://wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

A must read for contractors, architects, engineers, and others.

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of Athenian Republic some 2000 years earlier: “A democracy is always temporary in nature: it simply cannot exist as a pemanent form of government.”

“A democracy will continue to exist up until the time voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”

“From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatist civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.”

“During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacence to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage

Professor Joseph Olsen of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 presidential election:

a.. Number of states won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29
b.. Square miles of land won by Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000
c.. Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million; Bush 143 million
d.. Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties by Gore:13.2; Bush 2.1

Professor Olsen adds: ‘In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.

Olsen believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some 40% of the nations population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

If you think Barack Obamas Change is going to help with free medical for all and taxing anyone making over 250,000 who already pay 46% of all federal income tax, think again.

The total income tax paid in 2004 was $832 billion. Those earning $75,000 or less paid $182 billion (22 percent) and those earning more than $75,000 paid $650 billion, or 78 percent of all taxes. Further, those earning $200,000 or more paid $389 billion in taxes, which is 47 percent of all taxes paid.
For those of you keeping score that means the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans paid nearly half of all the taxes. And now consider this: The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans pay an average of $322,000 in taxes while the remainder of taxpayers (98 percent of them) pay an average of $3,037. That is a pretty big difference.
Barack Obama is going to INCREASE Social Security tax by raising the cap from $102K, to $250K, This is a tax increase, Capital Gains tax increase form 15% to 28%, When your Parents retire and sell there home for Capital Gain they will lose over 1/4 of the value to taxes. This will also cause a large # of investors to cash out to avoid paying the tax and could really disrupt the market. The companies that we are going to tax will pass these increases onto the consumer ( YOU and ME) It may not be a actual Tax increase but something will increase. Call it whatever you want, this is economics 101. America has been living outside it’s means for a while now, 50% off blowout sale, have your credit card ready, 0 down and no payments for a year, everyone approved, drive it home today, America is a sucker for deal. And if you find you can’t afford the payments, just blame George Bush.
— brian

To the Flim Flam Obamaman and all Americans considering voting for him…I worked for my wealth, as little as it is, I don’t want anyone but me spreading it around. I will decide who to spread it too!

This, America, is class warfare…the socialist/communistic new Democrats are pitting us one against the other. Everyone…everyone in this great country who has made it…usually made it on their own…but the key is that they lived in a country that allowed them to make it!

Now the Flim Flam Obamaman wants to take what you worked so hard for…to provide for your family both now and in the future…and give it to others who chose not to work as hard as you!

That is socialism…that is communism…that is the plan of the Flim Flam Obamaman!

I just, today, cast my absentee ballot for the only candidate that lets you keep “your” money for “your” family…President Elect McCain.

America, these new Democrats are going to ruin our country and our democracy. A vote for the Flim Flam Obamaman is going to be the end of our democracy as we know it!

VOTER REVOLUTION HERE AND NOW!

FLIM FLAM: HE IS DECEITFUL, HE IS A FRAUD, HE IS DOUBLE-DEALING AND DOUBLE-TONGUED!

Again I’ll repeat what I’ve said before.

Not only will Obama raise taxes on working American but he want to let the IRS send you pre-printed tax forms with your income based on your banking information.

Read: The IRS will have direct access to your personal banking information.

The transformation of the U.S. into a Marxist regime right before our very eyes.

can we hear the rest of the quote? they cut it off…

Thats right Mr. & Mrs. Small business owner, Obama wants to your hard work & income from it & spread it around to all the lazy asses that don’t want to work… What a country! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

Blacks high standard of living in America is by and large undeserved. It is a historic fact that no people or race has ever increased their standard of living as their rates of immorality skyrocket. Blacks commit crimes and have illigitimate children at a rate 6 times worse than they did 40 years ago. Usually morality and success go hand in hand.My point is many earmarks of success were not earned by today’s blacks, but are a byproduct of wealth redistribultion.

Notice the “…I want…, I just want…”?

Your concern?

Is there a maturity requirement for the
President?

Does he sound like a great thinker?

This plumber should have then asked just what is it that the people behind me lacked that I must make up for? Was it education…why didn’t they get one? Was it vision…how do you give them that? Was it because there was no Father figure in the home? If you don’t talk about that how do you tackle that problem? Just what was it that throwing my money at them is going to do to raise us all up?

And when the poor plumber is taxed out of business, who is going to spread the wealth then?

What it really means is that Obama friends will not pay any taxes and the rest of the people will pay more than their fair share.

Its the way poticalics works.

I hate all politicians

What does Obama mean sharing the wealth?

The only way to do that is to increase taxes!

I have always felt like i needed a job and should earn my own money from working. Being a police officer didn’t pay the big wages but at least I worked. If needed something extra I could borrow it from the bank and pay it back unlike the people who bought the houses they couldn’t afford. If the US becomes a Communist County, like it will under Obama, I hope everyone who makes over $250,000 just stop working. I never made near that much but I don’t expect to get any money from them unless it’s left in a will.

Obama is a jerk. People need to wake up and quit being so stupid. The US is going down if Obama gets elected but not without a fight.

Sad but true is spot on. My wife works for a school system where young black women are flooding the staff as teacher aids. They typically have 4 or 5 children at home with 4 or 5 different baby daddies. They are served warrants at school occasionally in front of the kids. They constantly confront the white principal over what they think is some racist slight from children, parents, or other school staff. If they are productive teachers and help a couple of children greatly it is offset by a teenager of theirs at home who has killed someone in a robbery or hurt a police officer thereby crushing another families dreams forever. They typically come into the school system after 10-12 years on welfare and have no real interpersonal skills, but the school system appears obligated to hire them as we live in a socialist state and county.

Why is it every time an “unna-prilliged minority” needs help it involves the government sticking their hand in my pocket? Have you noticed Obama has never made a dime that didn’t involve government handouts or campain contributions? That worthless punk has never worked a day in his life. Oh, and by the way, John McCain is the only one in this election who has put it on the line serving his country. Riding a bus and sucking up tax dollars in the name of equality doensnt’
count!

Hundreds of Economists Sign Letter Opposing Obama’s Tax Plan

Hundreds of economists (including Nobel Prize winners Gary Becker, James Buchanan, Robert Mundell, Edward Prescott, and Vernon Smith) have signed letters opposing Barack Obama’s economic and tax plans:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/10/hundres-of-econ.html

Barack- the “people behind me” are “behind me” becuase they didn’t work as hard as me and my parents. I won’t play Obama’s game. I love this country and I won’t give my hard earned money to the lazy Obama voters. I’m sorry they will have to pry it from my dead cold hand. F you Obama

I think if there were a hypothetical race of complete bumbling & incoherent idiots that were violent and prone to procreate outside the bounds of marriage, there would be liberals asking us why there are not more airline pilots and physicians from their ranks.

Hang on to your wallets boys and girls…here come the Obama Man…

Obama “It’s not that I want to punish your sucess.” ..”It just that if we spread the wealth around it will be good for everybody.”

Obama- did it work in Cuba? No – did it work in the Soviet Union? No

Obama – Socialism will lower the standard of living for everybody.

Obama is a fool wake up. He is tax and spend fool

Being rich means you have a job, and are not receiving social assistance.

Expose this fraud.

http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324

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The coming liberal thugocracy
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/the-coming-thugocracy/print/

“Spread the wealth around…”

America isn’t China, North Korea, Cuba or the former Soviet Union pal!

I want your money and I want it now.

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What will happen when all the rich folks leave this country (just like outsourcing companies). I guess he’ll have to tax the poor? It happened in France… it can happen here.

erm… can you say Socialism?

I think I’ll take the next 20 years off and wait til the government squares it all away for me.

Obama is a fraud, pushed on us by the chattering class. He is an empty suit, and will be completely overwhelmed by the demands of the job. running for president is not unto itself a qualification to be president, as obama claims.

Steal from the Rich (those with jobs) Give to the Poor (lazy shiftless unemployed welfare recipients)

“It’s not that I want to punish your success.”
Robbin’ O’bama Hood

Socialist pig!

So where is the end to the story?

The Plumbler just stood there and apparently said nothing to Obama after being told that “share the wealth” is going to be the law of the land. Being in the same boat as the plumber I would have looked Obama in the eyes and tell him that if he thinks he is going to take more of my hard earned money and give it away so easily it would be over my dead body!

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THAT IDIOT!

Sen. Obama, could you please tell me where in the U.S. Constitution does it say that one of the responsibilities of the POTUS is to “spread the wealth around”? I’m looking in my copy of the Constitution and I can’t find it. Come on, liberals. You all know where it is. Tell me.

If this black a– is elected, it will be the biggest takeover of our great country without guns in history. Our forefathers who gave everything for our freedom must be turning over in their collective graves. For God’s sake America-WAKE UP and turn this jerk out and vote for anyone but Obama Osama. Yes and I am becoming more racist by the minute listening to his B.S.

Yeah, let’s take one sentence out of context and pretend that’s the entirety of what was said. Good old Matt Drudge and Fixed Noise, the tag team of idiocy, whipping the stupid into a frenzy of reactionary right-wing rhetoric. If you watch Fixed News, you need your head examined.

For all of the masses that vote for Obama’s handouts, guess what? The hard-working rich who pay the majority of the taxes are not going to work as hard if the government takes their money to give away to others. Therefore, small business jobs are cut, tax revenue decreases, and those with their hands out for money (stimulus checks, etc.) will find NOTHING! Be careful what you wish for, lazy America!

The term “crosstalk” is A.A. lingo, btw….

There’s two readings you should look at…first is: “AA: Cult or Cure” (2nd edition) It’s the best read you can ever look at about AA.
Second: “The Orange Papers” Agent Orange is an enigma….He’s dying in NYC from the crap we flew in The Nam.
He sure knows the facts about AA though.

His site’s pretty dang cool, and right-arm, about AA, anyway.

Don’t ever let a court sysyem shoot you into an AA program as a punishment for an alolhol violation, no matter what, and how much you do or do not believe in God….they’re in vio;ation of everyone’s constitutional rights at that point-in time.(seperation of church and state)

Just read….you’ll learn….about this AA fiasco anyway…

Barry Hussein Obama will tax small businesses out of existence.
I can’t understand why anyone that needsa job to survive would ever vote for this socialist.

There you have it, he wants to “spread the wealth around.” So, where’s the incentive to succeed? Where’s the incentive to start a business? I guess that’s what you call, “Hope and change.”

If you eliminate wealth, there will not be much to spread around. There are two outcomes for socialism: 1) wealth is eliminated, productivity ends, everyone becomes impoverished; 2) wealth is eliminated, everyone is enslaved to serve. Pick one.

Oh, and someone should tell Obama supporters that if corporates/businesses don’t pay taxes, the people buying the products do. Raise taxes on corporations and businesses, you do, again, two things: 1) eliminate jobs because companies have to cut back; 2) raise prices to pay the taxes. Businesses do not just say “oh, well, we’ll be nice guys and just pay the taxes out of our profits. What do we need profits for, anyway?” You’re pretty dumb if you believe that.

He and his actions as an attorney did a great job “spreading the wealth around” by suing banks to force them to make mortgages to people who could not pay.

He and his cronies at Fannie & Freddie poured gas on the bonfire with his “mortgages for the poor” plan. This guy is a nightmare. If you have anything – he and his goons will take it. Be very afraid.

Why don’t we start asking the American voter if they are better off now than 2 years ago before the Demo’s took over the Senate & Congress.

What was the unemployment rate, tax rate, loan interest rate, mortgage interest rate, inflation rate, foreclosure rate in January and December 2007????

ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE THEN?????

NOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oops…. typo…

“someone tell Obama supporters THAT CORPORATIONS/BUSINESSES DON’T PAY TAXES, THE PEOPLE BUYING THE PRODUCTS DO.”

sorry.

Go back to Kenya where you came from!

My Typos just tripped over my Geikos…..*sigh

Glad to see Obama admit that he is a socialist and wants more people on government handouts (what we used to call welfare). Socialism has failed in Europe. What makes any of us think it will work here?

Socialists need to be hunted down! I hope someone is up to the task with a good aim to save America>

That’s semi-funny Alan…What will Nobama admitt or deny tomorrow to? ;o)

the “people behind you” are the ones being carried on your back…

To the idiots that don’t understand the story of Robin Hood. The “rich” or “wealthy” in the story that Robin stole from was the government, the Sheriff of Nottingham to be exact!
It was the government that first stole from the people and taxed them heavily so they could NOT amass wealth, rise up and overthrow the government (S of N).
Sound familiar? Huge Chavez is doing it today and Barry Hussein Obama will do it if he is elected.

I can’t wait til the Messiah is president. I can quit my job and wait for all the wealth of others to come my way. Note: Sarcasm. But I can guarantee you all the kool-aid sippers that are voting for him are thinking exactly that. God save us all.

….And there is the smoking gun folks. “Spread the wealth around”

Spoken like a true socialist.

Barack ‘Robin Hood’ Obama

First of all, with a deficit of 450B..B as in billions, there is no way Obama can only tax people making over 250K a year. This is a lie and he knows it. Remember daddy bush with “read my lips…no new taxes”? Obama will be a guaranteed one term president, if he doesn’t ruin the country first.
Also, this idea of spreading the wealth around is pure socialism. Its called redistribution of wealth.
Send this moron back to the senate and let McCain drive the boat.

Let me tell you something Jim, I’m not moving anywhere if NoBama wins this election.

These people will see the wrong-side of my guns as they try to collect them.

Let me tell you and everyone else in this room….the only advantage we have against this idiot, is, most of the military and police of this nation believe-in what we believe in, and that’s Freedom.

They’ll flip like flounder if they’re ordered to exterminate the citizens of this nation.
See? The Cup’s half full now. ;o)

It’s not that we want to punish you for getting off your a$$ and trying to live the American Dream, but we need to support able body people who are lazy and unproductive so I can get their votes. As soon as Obama wins I am quitting my job and waiting for my check from the Messiah.

CLASPUR
I’m with you sir…I will not be giving away any more money than I already have, I will not give up my right to carry a gun with a permit, I will never NEVER follow this POS as my president. NEVER

Spread the word! WE all know Barry O is a socialist but now it is on video-hope it gets lots of air time!!

“My Muslim Faith Tells Me”…oops…yup, wealth distribution, just like in Marx-Engels classic writings…Obama is a marxist, this is just more proof.

neo-communism

It’s about BUYING VOTES!!!! That’s it. Paying voters to vote for them. It makes me sick. The country cannot support all the programs for much longer. We’ll end up broke like California.

The same thing happened to the Roman Empire. Corruption, vote buying, & social programs until it went broke and collapsed.

Government is parasitic. It grows larger and larger off the host until the host can no longer support it then they both die.

I hate this man.

Senator Obama,

let me say this as clearly as i can. First, I have never taken a job from a poor person.

People with wealth have earned that wealth, and it is theirs to do with as they wish. The majority of them are business owners who employ nearly 70% of working Americans, and your tax plan will punish them (although not with a baby, thank God for that) due to the fact that more than 80% of those small-business owners are individual, single-payer tax-filers.

Under your tax plan, the wealth of the hard working small-business owners of our country will be taken involuntarily, and given to people who have not worked as hard, do not have the incentive to own their own business, or worst yet – do not work at all!

I am not a business owner, and I fit into the income level to which you say I will get a “tax cut”. However, I am intelligent enough to read between the lines and see the truth, which is your tax plan will cost many Americans jobs.

I, for one, am not falling for the lies.

Why didn’t the socialist idiot just say “I’ve got mine, now I’m going to take yours and give it to the people who vote for me”.

WAKE UP MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE!!! His comments just reinforces the Dem supported ACORN voter drive (theft) and grand scheme of this election.

Not sure when hard working middle class folks will wake up and see the LIGHT of this man and his campaing tactics of giving the most to the people in our society that contribute the least (usually by choice of not working hard).

With reagrds to to ACORN. Their actions are absurd. The only people that should vote are people that want to vote without any prodding. I am sure that this is the first time to vote for many of these ACORN registered people in their entire life and possibly the last. These new voters are being lead to the voting trough for one reason and only one reason; “which is to take advatage of their weakened mental and physical state to vote for OBAMA”. This is an Obama strategy for years started when he was a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.
Obama has been voted into office from the bottom and telling voters (promising) them you can receive plenty for nothing by stealing (taxing) from the wealty and giving to the poor is actually income redistribution (buying votes)and socialism.

AGAIN!!! Not sure when hard working middle class folks will wake up and see the LIGHT of this man and his campaing tactics of giving the most to the people in our society that contribute the least (usually by choice of not working hard). WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Wake up middle class!!

So glad there’s a media outlet that is Fair and Balanced. We need to keep America White. I wish Sarah would undo the third button on her blouse when she’s inciting violence, er, I mean, speaking to the common man.

Obama has been studying Karl Marx
“spread the wealth” sounds like code words for wealth redistribution

look, I’d like to see an African American become president just as much as anyone else…if the person is qualified….Obama isn’t so I’m not voting for him..period.

OK So Obama is going to take from the few and give to the many! (Socialism by Karl Marx)

He is raising everybody’s taxes that own a car or other vehicle by at least 1200$ a year (he wants a 1.5 tax put on everygallon of gas purchased)

He wants to cut jobs

he wants people to get paid for Volunteering

and he wants his fannie advisors on his team to advise more!!

The total income tax paid in 2004 was $832 billion. Those earning $75,000 or less paid $182 billion (22 percent) and those earning more than $75,000 paid $650 billion, or 78 percent of all taxes. Further, those earning $200,000 or more paid $389 billion in taxes, which is 47 percent of all taxes paid.
For those of you keeping score that means the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans paid nearly half of all the taxes. And now consider this: The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans pay an average of $322,000 in taxes while the remainder of taxpayers (98 percent of them) pay an average of $3,037. That is a pretty big difference.

If you read into Obi-wans plan a little bit more you will realize it not what he makes it out to be 95% seems to drop right on down to about 40%.
Socialism is trying to be injected into capitalism. that don’t work either.

I DEMAND YOU SPEND YOUR LIFE WORKING FOR MY BENEFIT. YOU WILL RENDER UNTO ME SOME OF THE MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE BY WORKING FOR ME. AND YOU SHALL DO THIS EACH AND EVERY DAY.

THOSE MINUTES I SHALL ROB FROM YOUR LIFE BELONG TO ME! AND YOU CAN’T DO A DAMN THING ABOUT IT SUCKER!

MEANWHILE I SHALL SIT AROUND, SMOKE CRACK, DRINK RIPPLE AND LIVE HAPPILY PARTYING IN MY GOVERNMENT PROJECT HOUSING, AND NOT LIFT A FINGER WITH ALL MY NEEDS PROVIDED FOR!

I LOVE THIS OBAMA STUFF!

Well, there you have it. He’s not a socialist, he’s a communist.

All of the mindless sheep who have Obama stickers on their car and signs in their yard, I honestly hope they are the first ones who succumb to the results of his policies should he become president.

A dear friend, who had to leave Cuba, because of Castro Marxism, told me that listening to Obama ads on Spanish radio was exactly like listening to Castro!! She cannot understand why the Ameicans are not seeing the dangers in Socialism. “It is all around us, Cuba, Venzuela,Russia. They have failed, but ruined their countries for generations”. Take heed, folks…”spread the wealth”?, only to the grifters and grafters! You are being ACORNED: phoney promises for phoney voters.

The look on the guy’s face is priceless. Seemed like he didn’t know if he should shake Obama’s hand at the end.

My husband owns a small business. He sure didn’t go to school AND work long hours just to have his money taken away to give it to someone who just sits on his butt all day long.

On Palin, she is one tough cookie. That’s why I like her. She criticized Bush, she just didn’t mention his name. She is right though.

Tax the rich,
Feed the poor,
’til there are,
no rich, no more.

Then we all starve

Nobamania-catch it!!!

“My Muslim faith…”

“Going to spread the wealth around…”

His own words people!

Wake up America. This guy is a fraud!

He doesn’t really mean “spread the wealth around”.

He means “spread YOUR wealth around”.

LOL, you guys are morons. Seriously.

This isn’t 1950, calm down with the Joe McCarthy rhetoric.

Can I make just one more comment on this thread before I go now?

Just walked-out and saw Nancy Pelousy on C-Span, and fell into a mental quandry..I bet she was hot to do when she was a teener, and may still have some surprises now-to to the day but,…..
…Oh-My……nevermind… *ack

She’s a true enemy of this nation, and make absolutely no mistake about that fact, gang.

Yesterday, in my neighborhood this bar had all these Obama idiots and demo-goons out in their lot to go vote at the courthouse…needless to say it was all Obamatized…Hock!

These people better understand when we get another 9/11 and Bush isn’t around, as was with Clinton, they better not even to try to blame Bush on the next attack.

You thought Dhimmi Carter was bad in the late’70s, stand the F-buy gang…you ain’t seen nothing yet.

I’d never vote for ‘Splod’in myself-up…..for any religion that was trying to force their idealolagy down my throat.

BTW…..how’s “the stand” still running these days with the female liberal left-still supporting Obama? lol

It’s called Willful Blindness guys….good read also, btw…

America as a whole has become too apathetic to notice the following:
- Barack Obama, despite whatever else they find out about him, is a socialist at his core. The “haves” are going to be required to support the “have nots”. Required. When it is compulsory, it is socialism plain and simple.
- The democratic party is neither truly democratic nor a party of the mainstream American values.
- America is being torn apart from within. Instead of standing firm and defending our way of life and allowing each person to rise/fall on their merits, we are becoming a nation of mediocrity. Those who excel are punished (monetarily and with media scorn).
- The press, as a whole, has only contributed to societal ills. No longer is anything reported accurately and without bias. Stories are enlarged to the point of spectacle, with facts getting lost in sensationalism. Our grandfather’s media, the one with integrity, is dead. Period. All one has to do is watch CNN or MSNBC or FOXNews to see that personalities rule the day— not the news.

Just observations from an overburdened, tired taxpayer who remembers an adage that America would be wise to recall: Those who stand for nothing, will fall for anything.

First: FOX is NOT a credible news source. I was shocked at how ill-informed these “Anchors” are. My college newscast was more credible.

Second: You can’t get a Tax break if you don’t pay taxes, stop being so stupid. Obama NEVER said anyone would get a check, that was Bush’s Brilliant idea. You pay taxes, you get the credit, period. Idiots.
Please do your homework before you repeat something you heard on the radio or TV. It’s gotten to the point that you are just embarrassing yourselves and all Americans.

There is no questioning that the majority of Americans agree with John McCain on the most important issues. However, alot of them aren’t happy with the current conditions in America and are wanting a “change” so they feel they need to vote for Obama. But for those seeking this change you need to ask yourselves, “Why am I voting for a man that paints the person I agree with the most on the important issues an ‘enemy’?” If Obama thinks McCain is wrong, bad, and everything else for thinking the way he does…just imagine how Obama feels about you.

Please, Please, Please….read this

http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/cms/butt_scratching_and_bass_fishing_10192.htmlc?ictid=htlnk

You just don’t get it!!! The left WANTS the government to take care of them. They want government housing, government food programs, government healthcare, and Obama is their sugar daddy. They all want to be treated like they were when they were kids, having somebody else pay for everything with no discipline for bad actions. Our founding fathers would be ashamed as this is exactly what they tried to prevent. GOD help us.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Dem Congress make a strong move towards repealing the 22nd Amendment if Jughead is elected; they’ll pass the legislation, send it to the state legislatures for ratification, and threaten to withhold highway money or other federal dollars as blackmail until the repeal is passed. Then, “Dear Leader” Obama can be ‘elected’ as many times as the folks at ACORN, NBC, ABC, and CBS can arrange. Way out, far-fetched, grassy knoll conspiracy theory for sure, but I’m keeping it in the back of my mind just in case I need to start agitating for a secession movement in my state…

I own my own business , people are not going to work hard just to have big brother take it and redistribute it. This plan is a punishment for ambition and hard work. I just wont work too hard to fall into his tax bracket simple as that. by the way obama I am a small business and I employee 3 people under your plan I will let one go. Thanks a lot! This is nut’s it is true hard working american’s giving away their money under Obama’s stupid plan. Good for the poor and lazy bad for hard workers under Obama’s plan prepare for a long and hard recession or worse!

This sure does sound like communism doesn’t it? What incentive is there for the “one behind” to earn his success if it’s just going to be given to him?

Obama sought out Marxist professers when he went to college. He also sidled up to “oppressed” groups like Chicanos, etc. What sort of an education do you think he obtained? None, actually. Just indoctrination and propaganda from the enemies of our country and the perpetual whiners that hung around the universities he attended. Obama knows nothing but Marxist philosophy. He will work diligently to throw the Marxis net over all America.

Thank you Jeff! “You can’t get a Tax break if you don’t pay taxes” To all the Obama supporters out there: How in the hell is Obama giving a tax break to 95% of Americans when over 40% of them already pay no taxes??? Hmmm??? It’s what we smart people call a lie.

What else is new? This guys a silver tongue attached to an empty suit. If elected, the puppet strings will be pulled by Harry Reid and Nancy Mussolini Pelosi from the other end of PA Avenue.

What’s wrong with making billionaires pay their fair share of taxes? That’s what Obama is talking about.

Middle class Americans are so duped into thinking they are part of the “upper classes”, they think that they are going to pay more, in reality, Bush’s tax cuts were only for the very wealthy, not the vast majority of Americans.

CEO’s make 400 times what average workers make. They should pay their fair share. Are you making $100 million a year?

“Obama has been studying Karl Marx
“spread the wealth” sounds like code words for wealth redistribution”

It isn’t code. He was off-prompter and actually used the exact words “spread the wealth”. I’m betting his campaign is wishing this video would disappear…though it’s not like this guy’s history and Socialist leanings haven’t been obvious since he cited the likes of Saul Alinsky in his OWN BOOKS.

The people that aren’t actually voting for Obama, but instead are voting against McCain (lots of them I imagine) will not be swayed by this…Likely because most of them will be in the Hand-Out line when Obama starts ’spreading the wealth’.

Just stand back, nothing to see here, move along ..

All the problems with our nation can be boiled down to one word as the cause/pathogen…. illegal invasion, overtaxation, no representation, liar media, the economy stock market crash, the mortgage crisis, infrastructure decay, gangs, rampaging drugs… the one word we need to divest our nation of: DEMOCRATS. Those cheap scum thieving fascist traitor murder pigs are the cause of all that is wrong with the USA> WAKE UP FOLKS!!

“We the People” have to spread around the word that Obama is unfit to be POTUS.
“We the People” have to spread around all the names of Obama associates that are anti-American radicals. The dots than when connected create a very upsetting picture.
“We the People” have to spread around the word that Barack Obama is wrong for this country.
“We the People” have to spread around the vision of Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Reid/Frank/Dodd and throw in a few Chicago political thugs to finish off the picture.
That is what has to be spread around!!!!

I commend the plumber for not brealing out a very large pipe wrench and whacking Obama where he stood. The sheer audacity of telling somebody to their face that their money will be redistributed to those who refuse to earn money for themselves.

i bet his brother in Kenya wishes he’d spread HIS wealth around…unbelievable. ‘do as i say, not as i do’. charity begins at home, you tightwad.

Supporters of Gun Control are GUILTY of the treason that is disarmong innocent Americans against their right to self-defense, resulting in rampaging murder sprees by the criminals. Murder = gun control= Treason. Biden and Obama are gun control crazy freaks that should not even be allowed to run for dog catcher!!!

It’s not code for wealth redistribution, it’s EBONICS for wealth redistribution. There is nothing more the lazy and worthless want more than to elect a ‘Roid who will take money from hard working Americans and give it to the saggy pants dope peddlers hollering at people as they drive by.

Well gigi, the trick is these people think everything does not apply to them. The elite are exempt to their own rules, because some people are more equal than others and are needed to keep order. Gore, Edwards, Pelosi, Obama … same people, different names.

Yikes! I can see Obama’s handlers now, huddled around him, urging him to: “Never, ever, answer a question from a taxpayer again!”

What a bunch of Whiners.Another Faux News report that you all just eat up .Steve Doocy and Brian Kiljoy- a couple of tools along with that Blonde Retard that goose steps along with them.
Time for you you Republicrats to go away and lick your wounds. You have nearly brought America to it’s knees with your failed policies of the past 8 years.

Hey Jeff, At this moment the Democrat leadership is planning on having a special session of Congress if Obama gets elected. One of the main reasons is to generate a new round of stimulus checks. The democrats loved the first round of stimulus checks so much they want to do it a second time. The first round of checks was overwhelming approved by the democrat congress. Keep in mind it is congress that appropriates money and approves expenditures, not the president. Bush proposed the idea, the dems wrote it up and passed it.

Many people who do not pay taxes get tax breaks and credit all the time. Tens of millions of the tax stimulus checks went to people who pay no taxes. There are millions of people that do not pay taxes that get a tax credit that qualifies them for “earned income” refunds.

The only ones who are embarassing themselves are libs like Jeff who believe that if you tell a lie long enough some people will perceive it to be the truth

how many of you would like to be operated on by an intern? how can we be so close to giving the highest office to someone with no experience?
would you take a ride across the US with someone with a driver’s permit?
get a root canal by a newbie?
your taxes by a highschooler?
advice on life from a teenager?

since when is being suave and full of yourself adequate experience for this kind of job?

If Obama’s friendship with the radical Marxist William Ayers doesn’t prove what Obama is ideologically, this statement about “spreding the wealth around” does. You’re about to elect a Marxist to the White House America! Wake up!

And Barack, the people who work for this plumber DO have an opportunity for success if they’ll put in the work. This plumber didn’t become a success because of his daddy’s plumbing dynasty being handed down to him. He worked hard and took risks which most any of us can do.

But to be a success you first need a job and an income. Obama’s tax hikes on small businesses to feed his far left ideological social experimentation will ensure fewer of these people even have jobs!

Remember obammy saying he was going to “invest 150 billion” to cure the energy crisis” ???? Well, I say, mr, if you have it to invest, why the hell wait for the election: get investing!! SOLVE the crisis NOW idiiot!! Oh- you mean, there is nothing that is as inexpensive and easy to derive energy for all from jets to lawn mowers as gasoline is? Hmmm- may as well NOT STEAL that 150 billion after all- since it ain’t yours to “invest”!!!

If your not “FOR” McCain at least vote “AGAINST” Obama.

Whoever you are, Obama promises to take money nd power from other people and give it to you. Get it? This includes Iran and Venezuela. Miraculously, he will establish “Peace in our time”. He will tell them both that they should rule their own “sphere of influence”. The only thing missing is the top hat and the umbrella. WAKE UP, AMERICA.

Repeat after me:

A Democrat never met a tax he didn’t like.

Obama’s just following the policy–more of the tax game.

Obama says “spread the wealth around”. He might as well say let’s engage in the redistribution of wealth and embrace the wonderful philosophy of Karl Marx. This is socialism, make no mistake about it. Our system of free enterprise/capitalism in the U.S. is not perfect, but socialism has failed whenever and wherever it has been tried. Wake up, people!!

May we call him President Marx? I mean, he’s changed his name once…so I dont think he’d mind if we just called him whatever fits…so for now own i’ll just start addressing him as President Marx.

Jesus. He is a big lie. I have come around and will support McCain after being on the fence for months!

My grandmother and many people that I speak to about Obama believe that if and when he becomes President, he won’t be around to long to do much… he is just too disliked. I’m just sayin’…

Yes, it is truly amazing to watch this meltdown to Marxist Socialism before our very eyes. Most of people voting for Obama are whiners — that’s who the Democratic party cater to. They buy votes with their lousy handouts. The problem is most of the idiots taking the handouts aren’t smart enough to know it’s that same political party that is keeping them helpless, lacking self-worth and “on the plantation.” Freaking people are really stupid and nauseatingly helpless. Many of us worked hard at crappy jobs throughout our lives. We paid our dues to get what we wanted. Now come the confiscators to take your hard earned money away to hand out to some useless nitwit for their vote. It’s vote buying pure and simple and it’s making me sick when I think of these government dependent lackeys lining up at the government teat.

No wonder the Marxist radical terrorist Obama cultivated Obama by holding his political coming-out party and fundraisers from his home and put him in charge of Ayers’ education charity boards whose goals were to train students in radical ideology as well as asked Obama to write a forward to Ayers’ book. Ayers recognized in Obama an ideological soulmate. And Ayers is an admitted and unabashed Marxist-Leninist.

I do not use these labels sloppily having studied international political science, and I often cringe when I hear conservatives throwing around the label of “Marxist” or “socialist.” But I have no doubt in my mind based on what Obama espouses and the company he keeps that he is indeed a Marxist. This idea of “spreading the wealth around” is just the tip of the iceberg of Obama’s Marxist ideals and agenda. It’s to get Americans addicted to big government. And then once he has us hooked, he’ll go a lot further. This guy is America’s Hugo Chavez. Wake up America!

What a shame that more hard-working Americans will never see this clip — only folks already committed to McCain.

We all know CBS, NBC, ABS, MSN and CNN had cameras there. Only FOX picked it up.

For the mainstream media, the “slip” of Obama’s tongue never happened. They will continue to pretend that high taxes are aimed at Exxon — not the small guy like many of us, trying his best to run a local plumbing business!

What is so scary is the throngs of people who buy into this. How did we ever get to this point? I don’t like McCain, but would never vote for Obama. I just wish that some of these folks come to their senses before it is too late.

Joe Biden says that paying more taxes is patriotic.
Makes you wonder why they took tax deductions for their charitable contributions as to lower their own tax liability.
Such hypocrites.

I’m watching Obama talk on TV right now about “Hard Work”…….So if we work hard..and become successful…..what is our reward? Getting to reward those who didn’t work hard and chose to do drugs and sit on their A$$es?

Gigi what do you think his relative (Odinga) in Kenya is thinking about Obama since he helped him get a position in the current gov’t. since he couldn’t steal the presidential election his tribe the Luo (Obama is from the tribe as well) went on a rampage killing Christians and burning churches. Oh did I mention Odinga is a Muslim and wanted to implement Shariah law throughout Kenya.

Makes you go hmmmmmmmmmm?

“Spread the wealth around” = Redistribution of Wealth.

That’s right out of Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto.

Maybe instead of that round symbol Obama has as his emblem he should more honestly make it the communist hammer and sickle.

Obama is a communist. My father and grandfather fought wars to keep communists from destroying this country. And now look what has happened.

Shame, shame, shame.

The red southern states are ripe for secession.I kid you not, we left in 1861 over a radical President’s election named Lincoln.Write me at Sumter SC, I might get the letter.

Here’s an idea. How about keeping EVERYONE’s taxes low as McCain is advocating? How about allowing everyone to keep more of their own money to create their own opportunity with? Businesses can create jobs a lot better with their own resources than government taking it to give to people to use to buy more beer and cigarettes with.

In my post above I said “No wonder the Marxist radical terrorist Obama cultivated Obama.” That should read “No wonder the Marxist radical terrorist AYERS…”. Ayers clearly took Obama under his wing recognizing a fellow radical. He’d have not cultivated Obama if he thought he was just some garden variety liberal.

I guess that land deal with Rezco wasn’t so shady after all–they were just sharing the wealth.

Obama wants to be your parent. Giving you an allowance when he sees fit and making you dependent on that allowance to maintain his power.
No thanks, I already have parents.

McCain ‘08

Sorry, Dennis —

But taking deductions for “charitable” contributions is one arena where Democrats are not guilty. As a general rule, they don’t donate money to charities!

Plumber should have put a $50 in his plumber’s butt crack(you know the one they are famous for)to see how bad Barry Hussein wants his hard earned money.

Obama is popular among the crowd who say, “You know, it’d be great if there was a black president…to prove this country is no longer racist..” thats find and dandy in Liberal land..but in real life Blacks are just as racist as whites…and Obama is no different…he’ll hand out to those like him before those different than him…he’ll help the old black lady onto the bus before offering his hand to the old white lady…putting a black man in office by your vote proves nothing about how far this country has come when the reality and fact is that racism is still real in both races.

as has been clearly stated here on numerous occasions, obama is showing his true color, a full blown, proven Marxist! so all you idiots out there who want change, vote for this empty suit is what you will have left, a few pennies in your pocket – YOUR STUPID CHANGE!

That’s right GlobalObserver. They want to “donate your money, not theirs.

Can anyone give me the name of any democrat who ever decreased taxes on anyone?

the public school’s chickens…have come home to
roost. only dumbed down public school systems, peppered with revisionist history and liberal/ socialist indoctrination can explain the support this %&*hole is getting from so many people in this country. he’s the most elitest democrat candidate
ever to emerge.

Every where i go McCain is popular and Obama despised. It makes me wonder if minimum wage polling people are doing what Acorn people do and just call the same person 50 times in a row. I don’t believe the polls.

To the people who are blaming Fox News. Don’t blame Fox, they just report it. Blame Obama for opening his mouth. The words came out of his month, not Fox News.

I liked that expression on the plumber’s face. He wasn’t believing a word of it! Obama the man-child is a DUNCE! He can’t figure out anything by himself but has to consult his 300 advisors on everything.

What a putz.

Acorn hater, You better believe the polls. There are Obama signs EVERYEHERE here in Virginia.

Nothing more surely destroys a person’s character then continually receiving ‘gifts’ from the government, with no effort on their part. Those people have absolutely no incentive to try to make their own way…we are becoming a society where a person’s character means nothing, and that is destroying our society.

And our current financial mess can be directly attributed to the government forcing financial institutions to give mortgages to people who couldn’t possibly qualify for a mortgage under previous ‘common sense’ guidelines. This is the perfect example of what happens when government interferes in out financial system…total disaster every time (thanks to Carter, Clinton, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, et. al).

Our area has far more McCain signs than Obama signs. It just depends on where you are. Minority communities who want handouts of course are going to vote for the communist Obama.

KP, What part of Virginia because all I ever see here in my part of Virginia is McCain signs.

Karl Marx and Robin Hood come to mind….

You sir have been duped. In the same way that people like Hannity, Levin and Limbaugh dupe their listeners every day with hate filled bile and lies this Alexander Tyler passage does not exist and cannot be found in any of his writings.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north484.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

Stop posting lies and misinformation.

Butt Scratching and Bass Fishing
by Dave Ramsey

A couple of weeks ago, I worked late like I sometimes need to do to run my business. It was a nice Tennessee summer evening, and I was enjoying the drive home. About 7:30, as I pulled to a stop light a few blocks from my office, I noticed a light on in the corner office of a friend’s office building. Through the twilight I could make out my friend’s silhouette as he bent over his desk. Being a fellow entrepreneur, I knew what he was doing. He was pouring over some receivables. Some turkey hadn’t paid him, and he was trying to make his accounts balance so he would have the cash to make it another day. In that instant, I had a flashback to some of the ridiculous statements I’ve been hearing on the talking-head news channels and from some individuals during this political year. And I’ll be honest—I instantly felt the heat of anger flow
through my body.

Let me tell you why. You see, my friend who I saw working late—we’ll call him Henry—is a great guy.
He’s what you want your son to grow up to be. He loves God, his country, his wife, and his kids. He didn’t have the academic advantage of attending a big-name university. Instead, he started installing heating and air systems as a grunt laborer after he graduated from high school. He was and is a very hard and
diligent worker, and before long, the boss taught him the trade. But when he was 24, after 6 years of service, the company he was working for got into financial trouble and laid him off.
Henry still had his tools, so he bought an old pickup to haul around his materials and tools, and suddenly he was in business. He knew about heating and air-conditioning, but not about business, so he made a lot of mistakes.

He persisted. He took accounting and management at the community college to learn about business.
He started reading books on business, HVAC, marriage, kids, God, and anything else someone he
respected recommended. Today he is one of the best-read men I know. Soon, because of his fabulous service and fair prices, he developed a great reputation, and his little business began to grow. Henry started 15 years ago, and now he has 17 employees whose families are fed because he does a great job. He is in church on Sunday and seldom misses his kids’ Little League games. Sometimes he has to miss a game because some poor soul has their AC go out in the 96-degree Tennessee summer heat, but Henry makes sure they are served. He is, by all standards, a good man. He is, by all standards, what makes America great.
Henry and I are friends, and so he asked me some financial questions last year. I learned in the process that his personal taxable income last year was $328,000. I smiled with pride for this 70-hour a week guy because he is living the dream.
At the stop light that evening, I also thought of another guy I know—and that is where the anger flash came from. We will call him John. While John does not have the same drive Henry has, I can say that he, too, is a good man.
John also graduated from high school and did not attend a big-name university. He went to work at a local factory 15 years ago. When 5:00pm comes around, John has probably already made it to his car in the parking lot. He comes in 5 minutes late, takes frequent breaks, and leaves 5 minutes early. However, to his credit, he is steady and works hard.

Over the years, due to his steadiness and seniority, he has worked his way up to about $75,000 per year in that same factory. He seldom misses his kid’s ballgames, but most nights you will find him in front of the TV where he has become an expert on “American Idol,” “The Biggest Loser,” and who got thrown off the island. When he is not in front of the TV, he spends a LOT of time and money bass fishing on our local lake. He never works over 40 hours a week and hasn’t read a non-fiction book since high school.

This is America, and there is nothing wrong with either set of choices. Nothing wrong, that is, until the politicians and socialists get involved.
I have seen several elitist people on the talking-head channels make the statement lately that people making over $250,000 per year have a “moral imperative” to pay more in taxes to take care of the country’s problems. This is not only infuriating—it is economically, spiritually, and morally crazy!

Where in the world do these twits get off saying that Henry should be punished for his diligence? If you are John, where do you get off trying to take Henry’s hard-earned money away from him in the name of your misguided “fairness”? If you want to sit on the lake, drink beer, scratch your butt, and bass fish, that is perfectly fine with me. I am not against any of those activities and have engaged in some of them myself at one time or another. But you HAVE NO RIGHT to talk about “moral imperatives” about what other people have earned due to their diligence. That money is not yours! You want some money? Go earn some! Get up, leave the cave, kill something, and drag it home.

We are in a dangerous place in our country today. A segment of our population has decided that it is the government’s job to provide all of their protection, provision, and prosperity. This segment has figured out that government doesn’t have the money to give them everything they want, so somebody else has to pay for it. That is how the “politics of envy” was born. “Tax the rich” has become the mantra of the left, and this political season it has been falsely dubbed a “moral imperative.”

Ninety percent of America’s millionaires are first-generation rich. They are Henry. To tax them because you think it is a “moral imperative” is legalizing governmental theft from our brightest, most charitable, and most productive citizens. If I can get a law passed that says you must surrender all your cars to the government because it is the “moral imperative” of anyone who owns cars to support the latest governmental program, that would be a violation of private property rights and simply morally wrong. This new “moral imperative” to redistribute wealth is no different from that. It’s the SAME THING!

Please, America, re-think the politics of envy! You are sowing the seeds of our destruction when you punish the Henrys of our culture. If you think taxing the populace to support government programs is the best way—and I don’t—then at
least tax every single person the same! There are very few Henrys out here who would squawk much
about paying a set percentage of their income—if everyone else did, too. But this idea of some buttscratching bass fisherman saying government should tax his neighbor and not him—just because his neighbor has succeeded—must stop.

So the next time an elitist media talking-head starts telling you it is the moral imperative of our culture to tax my friend Henry, change the channel. The next time you see someone wealthy who feels guilty and is preaching the politics of envy, change the channel. The next time you see some celebrity who feels guilt over their income preaching socialism, change the channel.

And the next time you run into a misguided, butt-scratching bass fisherman who says the evil rich people in our culture should have their private property confiscated because that is fair… well just shake your head walk away—and make sure to vote against his candidate. If he and his type win, God help America.

I am a small business owner and if Obama is your next president I am implementing an Obama pay cut to spred the poverty around. Pay WILL go down and JOBS will be removed permanently.

Usually I am a supporter of people learning from their own mistakes, but this time our family’s wallet is involved.
We are Canadians living in the States. Canada is a socialist country, we all take care of each other with our dollars.

What the plumber needed to ask as a follow up question was, “Then tell me why I should go to the bother of having a staff and not just go out on my own?”
THAT is what is going to happen. Obama is going to spread the love of the hardworking entrepreneurs to the work-a-day guys that are going to become suddenly unemployed cause Bob the Plumber doesn’t want the headaches of running a company to line the pockets of the guys who would rather not work.

We have the chance to move back to Canada, a predictable socialism with it’s very poor quality universal health care and more modest lifestyle for all, when this turns out to be the story of the Obama deception, and I won’t feel one bit sorry for the idiots who voted for the guy.

The polls are narrowing now and will continue to narrow until the election, as more people realize Obama is just a communist hack and not a real leader.

I read there is a scandal about to break on Obama too. Turns out he had an affair with his Illinois campaign finance manager Vera Baker, and Michelle found out and hit the roof. The girl – really gorgeous too, far more gorgeous than Michelle – was sent out of the country to live until after the election.

funny-you don’t seem to see this covered on MSNBC or CNN….

‘pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.’

2000 years or so ago, Titus Livy, in his introduction to his monumental history of Rome remarked that his purpose in writing was “to trace the progress of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of the foundations of morality as the old teaching was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when we can neither endure our vices nor face the remedies needed to cure them.”

Rome could do neither and fell.

The American Republic cannot endure the rot of Marxism and the ‘vices’ of modern liberalism. The real question is whether or not WE have the courage to face the remedies needed to cure our Republic of its maladies.

That cure will be paid for with the blood of patriots, traitors and innocents alike. It may well take several generations before those remedies are understood as necessary for the time – and before we may be forgiven for what we must do.

It’s time for Atlas to shrug – and to pick up a gun.

“Spread the wealth around” = Socialism!!!
This PUNISHES people who strive to earn as much money as they can and stifles creativity and the
American work ethic…This is more than enough to
understand that Obama’s interests and America’s interests are NOT the same!!! McCain/Palin do
represent America’s interests.

NOBAMA 08′

I’ll try and move to Dubai, heard its nice there and the Muslim leaders there aren’t in the closet…they are up front about who they really are…least I KNOW what i’m getting myself into there.

The polls are narrowing now and will continue to narrow until the election, as more people realize Obama is just a communist hack and not a real leader.

If millionaire leftists like Sens Obama and Clinton really wish to spread the wealth around they can start with themselves. Just write a check to any number of good causes, there’s plenty of opportunities and you certainly don’t need all that money.

But that would require them to actually give….

“Spread the wealth around” translated: we will take that you have earned and give it to does you have not. There is no reason for you to work harder, to apsire to better yourself for we will take it away and give to others less worthy.

Socialism is all about equal outcome versus equal opportunity.

Didn’t we know government would come to this?
WE,the states, must pass an amendment that will take from congress the power to spend money on their interest groups. This is our only hope for a decent future. E-mail everyone on your lists. If we can get this started in one state, it will catch on.
Do it.

When taxes are raised on “big business” like gas and oil companies, who do you think pays those taxes. They don’t. They charge you for it when you fill up your gas tank. Its really very simple. Government has to stop spending. Raising taxes is not the answer.

Who will vote for Obama?
Here’s a clue:

ACORN admits targeting low income minorities.

Obama gave ACORN $800,000.

Obama represented ACORN as a lawyer.

Obama scratched ACORN’s back and now ACORN is scratching Obama’s back.

So the people voting for Obama are primarily low income minorities.

Now before you say I’m racist, I don’t mean minorities by refering to the color of their skin (though most are black), I mean their I.Q. rating.

It would take a person with an I.Q. low enough to be consider almost non-human. A person who intellectual abilities border on that of the common house rat (maybe that’s unfair to rats). It takes a person who considers theft a normal way of life.

If you look at the democratic parties voting base it’s basically low income minorities. Is it any wonder they fall for his moronic socialistic approach to government?

You would NOT have to get up very early in the morning to fool the democratic voting base. Obama really isn’t that great, its just that the democrats are THAT ignorant. It’s really not their fault. Their I.Q.s prevent them from understanding simple things.

Race aside, what happens when these very angry groups of Americans who vow to fight against communism band together in groups? What happens when our military and police are ordered to disarm and arrest these groups? We live in dangerous times and I fear history is eventually going to repeat itself once again.

Man…this is a killer Ad handed the GOP and McCain campaign on a silver platter.

Come on McCain camp…did you catch this??!?!??!

Can anyone give me the name of any democrat who ever decreased taxes on anyone?
JFK. He was an exception though.

mark October 13th, 2008 – 2:17 pm

funny-you don’t seem to see this covered on MSNBC or CNN….

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Wow, really???!!! I’m shocked, I tell ya!!

Obama = Democratic Party = Communists

Spread the wealth around my a$$ !

Keep your freaking hands out of my pockets and off my wallet. The government has become legal stealing! This is what’s pissing people off. The constant stealing from my paycheck by the Democrats at the federal and state levels are pissing us off. I work hard for my money and I would like to actually keep 75% of it.

If Obama becomes president, I think what I’ll do is pay off my house then work under the table part time and claim very little income so I won’t have to pay taxes. Then, I’ll receive checks at the end of the year because it doesn’t pay to be productive. I’ll get free health care and goof off all day and get paid for it. It’ll be like retiring early.

[...] thug doesn’t have one single friend who isn’t a radical Marxist or corrupt crook. Did you catch Obama’s exchange with a plumber who is concerned about Obama’s tax plan? Plumber: "You’re new tax plan is [...]

Obama is a Marxist Socialist.
There is a LARGE BODY of proof that goes unreported by the liberal media. The PROOF comes from Obama’s own mouth.

“From each according to his means, to each according to his need.” That’s essentially what he said. That is also what Karl Marx used to build the USSR.

Folks… if you don’t want socialism… then you must crawl over broken glass to get to the polls and vote against Obama. Obama+Pelosi+Reid will be a disaster for the United States.

We have our first black nominee, and already his supporters are acting like its Kenya with the subverting of the election process through Acorn-just like 3rd world elections

you rich are the real thieves! You “work hard” by exploiting the rest of us.

Its time to take Mr. John Galt out back and shoot him in the forehead.

Socialist policies and high taxes. I hope all the Messiah voters will like living in another Russia.

ABORTION WAS MADE FOR LIBERALS!,TOO BAD BARRYS MAMMA DIDNT CHOOSE TO ABORT!

Robin Hood October 13th, 2008 – 2:36 pm

you rich are the real thieves! You “work hard” by exploiting the rest of us.

Its time to take Mr. John Galt out back and shoot him in the forehead.
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But then who will pay for your bullets?

Come on, you have sympathy for this plumber?

You conservatives will do anything to protect your rich, cavier eating, private jet-flying, wealthy beyond belief, plumber and electrician friends.

Shame on you! Shame on you for not supporting the working man at the expense of your wealthy tradesmen ilk. You make me sick!

P.S. This is a joke. This just goes to show Obama is not the friend of the working man. High taxes punish success and reward sloth. Duh.

Well said Robin Hood, we damn well know we black folk gotta work twice as hard to get as far as the white boy. When Mr Obama is elected you need to open up that checkbook cause all they slave work we did to build this country is not free

And the Savior Obama said unto thee, my Holy trinty, the Executive branch, Legislative branch and Judicial branch will all be one under my control. My beloved son and daugther, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi will go unto thee and do my bidding. The Constitution, with the help of the judges appointed by to the Supremem Court, will re-write the Constitution and do away with those unholy Ammendments. The first and the second ammendmants will be those first stricken from existance. And when I have seen these done, I shall, with my lovely wife proceed to re-organize the racial make-up of America for this will now be the land of my fore fathers. Those not of my color shall be put into slavery and those unwilling to submit shall be put to death at the hands of my army of followers, my beloved deciples.

And with that, the great Obama raises his hands up to hell, and praised Allah the almighty.

Obama is now writing the last chapter of American freedom and democracy. A freedom that will only be referenced in history books. I don’t want to read to my children about how we use to have freedom. But what can be done. The desiples of Obama are too many in number. There may be no way to stop them.

Unlike the Republicans, the democratic motto is “Vote and Vote often”. Too bad the republicans only get to vote once.

Provided the economy holds up, I figure that I can make the $250,000 in about 3 months. To be frank, I am looking forward to the vacation.

I just hope my 50 employees are as excited about it as I am.

I will put a “contact Obama for your check” notice in with their layoff notices.

Thanks simian relic for the JFK answer. But that makes my point. That was a LONG TIME ago. How can ANYONE think their taxes are going to be lowered by voting for a democrat

I work hard for my income and I don’t want to hand over my earnings to some drunk, alcoholic, welfare queen or illegal alien with a car full of anchor children because Obama the marxist believes this should be. I don’t think so.

Work hard, people, so you can share your wealth with those who won’t work hard – nobama

a plumber who makes over $250,000 PROFIT per year eh?

most likely off of the backs of his workers who he pays as little as he can before the quit….

obviously I don’t feel sorry for this person, in fact being a tradesman I rather enjoy that his lavish lifestyle will be cut back…

[...] is as close to a straight answer as you’ll get. At a campaign stop a plumber complained to Senator Obama about his tax burden. Rather than the usual vilification of [...]

Sounds like Socialism to me. . . .

I hate it when people post links. HOwever, I found this and believe it is important enough that I will be poating it EVERYWHERE! Its high time for the “silent majority” to become very very vocal!!!

http://www.savethemiddleclass.com

Michael,

I hope you enjoy the same feelings when I mow my own grass. Maybe your wife will miss us at the resturant where she waits tables. We won’t be eating out as much. Hope you don’t miss the tips.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77825

They came for Jessica, and I will not be silent

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Posted: October 13, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008

After World War II, trying to explain how good Germans allowed the monstrous evil of the Nazi regime, a pastor recalled that the Nazis came for the communists, and he did nothing; then for the trade unionists, then for the gypsies and Jews; then for the Catholics – and each time he did nothing. When they came for him, none were left to defend him.

Last week, here in America, they came for Jessica Hughes, and I will not be silent. I will not turn away, hoping, in the end, they will not come for me.

Jessica Hughes of Lufkin, Texas, former Marine, mother of three, answered her cell phone in the car, coming home from the emergency room. Her 9-year-old had suffered a mild concussion, but was OK.

The caller was a female Obama volunteer who asked if Jessica would support Obama for president.

Jessica replied, “No, I don’t support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.” Then Jessica hung up.

The next day, a man and a woman in suits showed up at the door of her home, identifying themselves as members of the Secret Service.

The Secret Service agents stated that the Obama campaign had complained of a death threat. They had quoted Jessica as saying, “I will never support Obama, and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.”

Jessica’s husband had heard Jessica’s side of the original phone call and verified the actual quote. To which the female agent replied, “Oh? Well why would she (the Obama volunteer) make that up?”

Jessica replied that the Obama volunteer was probably unhappy about what Jessica had said about her candidate. The female agent then said “That’s right, you were rude!”

The male agent then displayed a file with Jessica’s full name prominently printed on it and asked her how she felt about Obama. At this point, the former Marine told the agent “in no uncertain terms” (as she later recounted) that this was America and that the last time she checked, she was allowed to think whatever she wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. And was being “rude” a federal crime now too?

The agents then admitted they had no tape of the conversation, just the quote from the Obama campaign.

Responding to Jessica’s questions, the agents would not identify themselves by name, nor reveal the name of the Obama volunteer who had made the complaint. The agents did indicate that Jessica was not in a court of law yet, and that they were trying to not embarrass her “by going to all her family and neighbors.”

To these implied threats, Jessica invited the agents to speak to whomever they wanted, and stated she would happily go to court since she had done nothing wrong.

Jessica asked the agents, “Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate, and I can’t tell them why I don’t?”

The Secret Service left Jessica that day, but she could not get the “visit” out of her mind.

Jessica wrote later, “The fact that the volunteer lied, the fact that the Secret Service came to my house to question me about my thoughts and feelings and threaten to embarrass me to my neighbors and go to court if I didn’t cooperate is not the tragedy here.

“Because that girl on the phone doesn’t have the pull to send the Secret Service to my home. Someone high in the ranks of a campaign working for a man who may be the next President of the United States of America felt comfortable bringing the force of the Federal Government to bear on a private citizen on nothing but the word of a partisan volunteer.”

Taken together with the intimidation campaign against WGN Radio because it aired an interview about the Obama-Ayers connection, the use of local criminal prosecutors to intimidate TV stations in certain states to not run ads critical of Obama, and the use of race to rally black voters and shame white voters, the Obama campaign’s M.O. in Jessica’s case is a warning.

The pattern is unmistakable. The drumbeat of jackboots echoes now faintly, but persistently, in the fall breeze.

They came for Jessica, and I will not be silent.

Re: Peter Semple

“You conservatives will do anything to protect your rich, cavier eating, private jet-flying, wealthy beyond belief, plumber and electrician friends.”
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Like you’all do for your elitist Dems and Hollywood leftist hypocrites??

Obama is a man that cares about the poor. I believe that this is great. I care about the poor too.

Obama didn’t write “Dreams of My Father”

Guess who did…? Ayers

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77815

In 1787, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”

It is time for a 21st century rebellion.

It is obvious to all free-thinking people that Congress has failed in its duty to faithfully represent the interests of the American people.

That’s why we need to “Clean the Slate in 2008″ and vote them ALL out of office on November 4th.

Then, make history by electing an Independent candidate for President.

Read my “Proclamation of Freedom” http://blog.bobmcneilforpresident.com/?p=98

and, my “Economic Freedom Act” http://blog.bobmcneilforpresident.com/?p=105

Then, write-in “Bob McNeil” for President when you vote.

For the sake of our country, it is time to think, and vote, independently.

No wonder the Obama motley crew doesn’t usually let him speak off-prompter.

Because he says what he truly means in those moments. ouch.

The South should really form its’ own nation and leave the North East to its’ own devices. Let them self implode. If O’Bama is elected, then we should declare our independence. It is clear that with ACORN and other “community organizations” which O’Bama supports, they intend to steal this election. I’m tired of leftist socialist dictating to my family what we can and cannot do. Declare this man to be what he is… a Socialist who wants the same position and power as Castro, Putin, or Chavez. That is the goal.

I like it when I hear liberals tell people that they don’t need all that money they make. Well, here again we have these elitist telling people that the government is better at spending their hard-earned money than they are. You know a family earning $250,000 a year in southern California with three children and a home might not be as well off as people think. Paying a mortgage, two car payments, insurance, food, fuel, clothes, plus school tuition takes a big hunk of the family income after taxes are taken out. And Michael, you are one of those libtards showing your jealousy of someone working hard and having a lavish lifestyle. Who the h*ll are you to question someone’s lifestyle.

Obamma is a racist terrorist sympathizing ,communist liar,uneducated,metrosexual scum.He is a joke,i feel sorry for black people who are too racist enough not to see this.Obamma is the devil.Obamma is scum.

In the Sunday editions of major newspapers this week-end there was a “Parade” Magazine inserted. Three radical educated elites laid out Hussein’s plan for taxes, showing only the rich being taxed. They are preaching to the choir since only those committed to Hussein will believe these figures while the people educating themselves on the facts and issues will not accept such distortions. This is the same “insert” that lauded Hussein’s foreign policy experience becasue, they observed, he visited Pakistan once for three weeks as a young man. These people assume we are stupid.

So this idiot wants to take from me who has worked hard for many years and spread it around to others. I’ll be damned! Its not Obama’s to take from me or any other hard working person. If the dumb masses of America don’t wake up, do a little research on their own and find out what this man is really about, then we deserve to get him. He’s so dumb that he is talking about reducing the capital gains tax on small business people who reinvest in their business. Excuse me Mr. Obama dumb ass, small businesses don’t pay capital gains tax. It sound good and the dumb masses applaud it like it means something. THINK PEOPLE!

Well, I may as well quit work and hang out….because I’m gonna get some of that “wealth” anyway! What a crock! This narcissistic idiot is going to ruin this country. He (and his posse) can’t even do basic math. The Government can only give away what it takes from others. At what point does he cross a Red Line and become a traitor to the Constitution that he is sworn to defend? And the idiots in this country keep electing Democrats! Madness!

damn i wish people would listen to what this scum bag obama is saying even the dumb ass black should see whats comming DID ANY ONE SEE THAT DAAMN BILL BURTON ON FOX A FDEW MINUTES AGO HE HAS KINKY HAIR I THINKS HE IS HALF TO CAUSE HE AGREES WITH EVERY THIN OBAMMA SAYS HIM BOB BECKETT GERLDINE IS ALL IN THE TANK

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http://wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

this explains Obama’s tax plan, and is from the Wall Street Journal (a respected financial publication).

it clearly states that Obama’s plan will give money to all of the lower 95% of income level, regardless if they do or don’t pay taxes (the lower 40% of the population DO NOT pay income taxes).

plain and simple redistribution of wealth. vote for anyone but this madman…

Since when did plumbers become the “rich”? Basically the term “rich” in O’Bama vocabulary includes any one who is not on public assistance. So you have 35% of the populace who pay no taxes who are considered to be “the Middle Class” and you have the rest of us who do pay taxes who are considered “the Rich”.

If America elects this Socialist then we deserve what we get.

Well,
looks like my fathers and their fathers who have fought for this great experiment since the revolutionary war are about to get their graves pissed on by the new Maoist regime poised to take over. How did we let the Pelosi, Reid, Barney, OBAMA, bunch get away with restructuring the most powerful Democracy in the world into a socialist 2nd world power over night?
So glad I didn’t buy an overpriced house here in California, so glad I paid off my debts and rebuilt my own truck myself to save money. So glad I lived within my means and taught my kids they are not entiteled to anything…they must earn it. All that just got flushed. OK Obama, give me a house now, give me “free” health care, give me tax “refunds” so I can chill at home and watch Opra and the View and put my feet up with the rest of the lazy losers who would rather sell crack then work. Where’s my ACORN rep to get my dog regestered to vote for Mao/Obama so we can hurry up and end the system so much of the planet craves and comes to like a magnet to make something of themselves. No thanks…I’ll work hard for what I get.”Godamn America”? No Godamn you Obama, and your spoiled wife Amarosa who is so ashamed of her Country.
Time to fight Joe six pack. Time to stand up and be who we are and honor our fathers and stop this evil.

Willis, I am in middle Virginia and they are all over the place. Charlottesville and on up is solid Obama.

I love the people on here that criticize Fox News.

Hey idiots, those are HIS words, you just don’t want to hear them.

“Spread the wealth” is a self standing statement.

You dopes.

A vote for Obama is a vote against freedom, justice and the American Way. He’s making a living off the backs of blacks.

This fraud Obama wants to redistribute the wealty ie Communisim, register woman for the draft and let them fight in combat units. Now we are getting to what he means by change have Acorn conduct voting rules. Not in my America.

Spare the horses. Rape the women. All praise Allah and Obama.

Regarding Obama’s mythical “Tax Cut for 95% of Taxpayers”:

1. For earnings $25,000 to $45,000, Obama’s marginal tax rate will range from 30% to 40%; in contrast, current tax rates are a flat 20%. Is this a tax cut? I think not.

2. For earnings $45,000 to $100,000, Obama’s marginal tax rate will range from 15% to 18%; in contrast, current tax rates are 12% for this income range. Neither is this a tax cut.

3. For earnings $100,000 to $125,000, Obama’s marginal tax rate will range from 25% to 45%; in contrast, current tax rates are 20% to 35%. This is definitely a tax increase, but that’s OK because these filthy rich people are, well just too rich. (Just a comment on this income group. Most middle class Democrats who live on the East or Left Coasts are in this earnings range. This group of Democrats will be hit the hardest by Obama’s tax plan.)

4. For incomes over $125,000, the marginal tax rate fortuitously remains unchanged at 25%. (May I remind you, gentle readers, that this is the income range occupied by Obama the Messiah and his lovely wife Michelle? Apparently even Obama pays heed to his personal tax rate and would like it to be as low as possible.)

How this constitutes a tax break for 95% of all taxpayers is a mystery to me. Maybe you Einsteins who are planning to vote for Obama could ask him to clarify?

Just in case any of you think that I made this up (just like Obama apparently made up his latest tax plan), my sources are Monday’s October 13, 2008 Wall Street Journal, Page A18 and the American Enterprise Institute’s chart entitled “Effective marginal tax rates under current law and proposed by the Obama Campaign”.

I don’t want a hand out. I want hands off. I don’t want bigger government, I want less taxes. I want to choose my education and my income level based on my own hard work. I want to choose where my profits go. I want to choose my doctor and the level of my own healthcare. I don’t want a stimulus check, especially from borrowed money from China. I want the right to grow my own economy. I want people to be in America legally. I want voters to actually exist. I want my Pastor to be able to speak freely from the pulpit and I want the right to defend myself and my family. Sounds like the constitution…I would encourage Senator Obama to read it again.

NORTH KOREANS FOR OBAMA!! BARRACK THE VOTE!!!

I only wish the Confederates won the war in 1876. Cause if they did I’d be sitting on a southern plantation and Obama and his horse toothed wife would be serving me ice cold Mint Juleps and a plate of warm cookies right now instead of trying to subvert America with his Socialistic Diarrhea.

Racist? You bet. I wasn’t before this election cycle came along, but I am now. If Obama wants this to be about race and he likes playing the race card, well then I’m up for the challange.

Thanks to the democratic party and Obama, I’ve officailly became a racist. I no long have any use for blacks in politics or black organizations that only support blacks. Now if I could only find a white church that preaches hate like the church Obama went to then I’ll be set.

You know, I think I’m gonna like this new found hatred. Thanks a million Obama!!

I disagree. This is the 1950s. We need hearings. And, I am dead serious. This punk named Obama needs to know that we don’t want socialism. And, I don’t care what the F he thinks. Socialism doesn’t work. Get bent.

Give me Barrack or give me head!!!!

“spread the wealth around” = Communism

what’s it called when someone says one thing, and does another? I always though it was referred to as LYING. Hmmm, maybe when you become a politician it’s called something else. Wake up people! Don’t become Obamanized!!! The man is all smoke and mirrors!! You heard how he answered that plumber – what more proof do you need?!?!?!?

making fun of my Voodoo Tax-O’comics!! You hea me? Stop it!!

Never mind what he says. Drink your Kool Aid, believe in Hope and Change and pull the lever.

See how easy that was? No rational thought necessary.

All us in harlem love obama and his pro life choices and are anti-stem cell too. Anything to do with cells had gots to go!! Micane and his wife pailen dont know nothin about americins. She jus a dum h0

“Spread wealth around”

Isn’t that what they tried to do in COMMUNIST Russia?

“Barack the vote” ??? Are you kidding me? If you BARACK the VOTE then you’ll soon be
BARACK-ING poor!!

Well, at least Hussein Obama FINALLY admitted he’s a socialist. That’s exactly what “spreading the wealth” means. And yes, he DOES want to punish success. He wants to raise taxes on the “rich.” Why should they be punished for working hard to get where they are just because other people haven’t? That’s their problem that they’re so lazy and have chosen not to work hard to make the money they want to make. It’s not my place to take care of them and my tax money sure as he** shouldn’t go to them for anything!

That guy should have punched Lung Cancer Obama in his chest. He busts his ass and Obama gives his money to lazy scum bags. America is OVER!

3:00 AM – Phone rings.

Bill Clinton – Whoa! Whoa! I did NOT have sexual relations with THAT woman!

Hillary – Shut up Bill and go back to sleep, it’s just the phone. Obama wants to know how we handled Whitewater.

Bill – Oh, just tell him to kill off anyone who looks like a threat.

Hillary – Barack, did you hear that?….You did?….Okay then, and don’t forget to make it look like either an accident or a suicide…… Whats that Barack?…Another secret meeting with me? Not now I have a headache. Good night Barack.

Bill – He wants another secret meeting?

Hillary – I said shut up and go back to sleep.

Bill – I thought only you and I had secret meetings?

Hillary – Not since the cigar incident!…Good night Bill!

No, he will succeed in spreading the poverty around.

I am an African American man in Colorado. I was born to a single mother who worked her finger to the bone to support me. I grew up in a real bad area of Gary,Indiana, and unfortunately, because my mother worked so hard all of the time, I was left alone most of the time and found my way into ganga and even became a drug dealer. It was a special woman that turned my life around, she was only 18 but turned out to be my soul mate and I resolved that I would do anything to be with her. I enlisted in the army, where we were moved away from the poverty and gangs to another state, I served my country and went to college at night as did my wife and within ten 9 years of service we were able to get out of the Army and open our own business. I never stopped going to college, I found within me a great thirst for knowledge that to this day has never been quenched. My wife and I DID this. We did this ourselves without a government subsidized handout and we feel all the more proud because of it. Our business has grown so successful we were able to open up another and move to a place we had always loved. My point is, I have been down in the streets, I have known the life of a single parent and I know the sense of hopelessness that comes along with those situations. But to all of my brothers and sisters out there let me say, that YES, YOU CAN get up and make a difference in your own lives. Yes YOU CAN support yourselves without government help and YES YOU CAN stand on your own two feet and realize the American dream without having a handout from government. Obama is a man who is of my race and claims to speak for me, but with this redistribution of wealth theory of his, he is keeping the black man down, always hopeless, always needing a handout, always dependent on him and the government. My BUSINESS THAT I STRUGGLED AND SCRAPED MY WAY OUT OF THE GUTTER TO EARN, should not be raised against my will to pay for those who will not try. I did it, every last able bodied soul in America can do it as well. BARACK OBAMA TO ME IS SIMPLY A CHARLTAN. He is typical of all of the politicians over the years who claimed to have my interests at heart, and once voted into office became independantly wealthy off of greed and bribes. I t sickens me. As a military man, his foreign policy is simply inexperience at it’s best. He claims not to know much about it- where people do you think he will get advice from? Ask yourself realistically. I’m voting for the first time in my life outside my party for John Mccain and it has finally become clear as a whistle that my party does not represent me or my family anymore but instead their own selfish and ridiculous agenda

Obama’s says send me your paycheck and I will send back what I dont need,

“spead the wealth around”! good so no more hiding or pretending he isnt a socialist.

Ron Paul sounds real good about now…both Obama and McCain will inevitably HAVE to raise taxes; do you think after the almost $1 Trillion of recent bailout money and more to come, this can be gotten back in any other way ? Get off the partisan snide and just think logically.

Ron Paul had good ideas, true economists who have a responsible fiscal sense and a plan for fighting the corruption in Washington, which both Dems. and Reps. are equal participants of…off with the crooks like Karl Rove, Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid and vote independent…YOU CAN SHOCK THE WORLD COME NOV. 5th with the right choice.

NO, this is the plan that will work and keep the greasy fingers of the politicians out of our pockets forever.

How to Save the U.S. Economy

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10508

Not long ago I read a joke … It said all the politicians running for president are promising change to the American people. We send them billions and billions of tax dollars and they send us the CHANGE.

Funny?
Not really; there is too much truth in it to be funny.

That got me to thinking … They all promise change. How about if they run on a promise of restoration rather than change. A restoration that would take us back in time to a place where things ran better, smoother and life was more enjoyable. CHANGE? That, in truth, is what they have been giving us all along.

We used to have a strong dollar … Politicians CHANGED that.
Life used to be sacred … Politicians CHANGED that.
Marriage used to be sacred … Politicians are CHANGING that.
We used to be respected around the world … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to have a strong manufacturing economy … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to have lower tax structures … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to enjoy more freedoms … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to be a large exporter of American made goods … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to be an openly Christian nation … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to teach patriotism in schools … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to educate children in schools … Politicians CHANGED that.
We used to enjoy freedom of speech … Politicians CHANGED that.

We used to enforce LEGAL citizenship … Politicians CHANGED that.

We used to have affordable food & gas prices … Politicians CHANGED that, too. … and one could go on and on with this list.

What hasn’t been CHANGED, politicians are promising to change that as well if you will elect them.

When, oh when, is America going to sit back with open eyes and look at what we once were and where we have come and say, enough is enough?

The trouble is, America ’s youthful voters today don’t know of the great America that existed forty and fifty years ago. They see the world as if it has always existed, as it is now.

When will we wake up? Tomorrow may be too late. When will America realize …. Politicians are what is wrong with America ?

Seems like Mr. Rollington doesn’t mind Obama giving away others hard earned money to the parasites that live off of Welfare. That cool aid must taste pretty good. If Obuma said it himself…you can’t cover for him. Mark my words you will regret voting for him if he wins, in fact you will probably deny voting for him.

Well, maybe this makes me happy….as many of you on this site know, I like my beer! After this moron gets in, I can spend ALL my time hanging out with friends, sitting on a patio downtown. Just lay back sipping good beers all day long. I mean, I will have he wealth “fairly spred around” to me too. wooohoooo!!!! No more work for me! I think I’ll start smoking weed again too! Thanx Barry! Oh and thanks to all of you who work so I won’t have to.
W#elcome to the peoples republic of obama!
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Okay Obama, if you raise taxes on small business, then employees will have to be let go due to lower operating costs. I will tell one of my employees, ” Sorry, I have to let you go because Obama wants me to “spread the wealth”.

Obama?……………….What are ya, nuts?

The J,

You stated, ““spead[sic] the wealth around”! good so no more hiding or pretending he isnt a socialist.”

If this is your definition of a socialist than Jesus Christ is a socialist. Jesus told a rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor so that he could store up treasure in heaven.

HOW STUPID CAN YOU LIBERALS GET???

Haven’t we been through this before?

This is the very definition of socialism, pure and simple.

Socialism strangles a nation’s prosperity, and strips people of liberty.

You’d think we didn’t have the capacity to study history and and learn from it, or something. But that’s not the case. People should know better — they DO know better.

Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.

Every place that evil swine tried to implement Marxism last century had pure failure of the effort- except they did succeed in murdering 150 million people. yup- the largest cause of death unnatural for the 20th century was marxism. Do you know what group of people has killed more Americans than any other, and in fact more than all of our wars combined? DEMOCRATS. 40 million aborted americans. half a million dead from gun control. Wake up people- the party of liars thieves murderers and traitors must be diselected, not elected!! No more cheap scum thieving fascist traitor murder pig democrats in our government!
EVER! ANYWHERE!

Some of you people are a hoot, I just wish there were more of you. We wouldn’t have to be worrying about this a=hole. I am not wild about McCain, but you can bet I will vote for him. Twenty times if I could, but that’s right I haven’t been approached by ACORN yet. They wer3e outside our Walmart and they only asked the black shoppers to register. I finally told the little fella I didn’t think they were going to have too much trouble getting him elected. Why can’t we get smart and band together like they do?

Where have you people been? This isn’t the first time he’s told us he wants to turn America into a Socialist country!

Did anyone see his interview with O’Reilly, where he talked about taking money from someone who is ‘well off’ and giving it to some poor waitress who could ‘use a hand’? He said this is ‘fairness’; he called it ‘being neighborly’.

Guess what folks, President Obama is going to help you be really, really ‘neighborly’…because you needed help with that, didn’t you?

For God’s sake, and all ours, too….hold your nose and vote for McCain.

Iza votin fo Obammy soz I’s can geets me one-a-dem nu big skreen TV’s. Yessuh.
Spred da bling ’round. if’n its free, i takes three.

I sure wish I could have gotten ACORN to threaten a bank to make me a loan on a house I knew I couldn’t pay for.

Sounds like ACORN wanted “no income” housing for the low income minorities. After all that is the group ACORN said they were targeting for voter registration. (Their words not mine)

And now we the working class people get to pay for the housing of the non-working class people.

Hey, has anyone notice that it’s always about “class”? You know, “middle class Americans”, “working class people” etc. And Obama said his campaign was not about “class warfare”. One group pitted against another is warfare and when you take into account a persons “class” it becomes “Class warefare”.

So yes Virginia, there is going to be class warefare in America. Better run out and get another thousand rounds of ammo for the race riots!

Socialism does NOT work. It has NEVER worked anywhere around the world, in ANY country, and it will NOT work in the USA either. Puff the Magic Negro thinks he can just wave his magic wand and poof, it will work in the USA. All any of them have done or will do is destroy the middle class. They don’t have far to go.

Spreading the wealth around for the “common good” is pure Socialism. We’ve got to get rid of the Socialists in our government. Nancy Pelosi, the number three in line to take over the office of President should the President and Vice President die, is Pelosi, and she is a card carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America. If the thought of that moron being our President doesn’t scare the heck out of you, nothing ever will..

I don’t care that much for McCain because we have many differences. Like he’s NOT a conservative and I am. I like Sarah Palin and I will cast my vote for her. If McCain rides in on her coattail, then so be it. She’s real and she’s honest. I believe if ANYONE is looking out for Americans, it’s her!!

Sad but true is spot on. My wife works for a school system where young black women are flooding the staff as teacher aids. They typically have 4 or 5 children at home with 4 or 5 different baby daddies. They are served warrants at school occasionally in front of the kids. They constantly confront the white principal over what they think is some racist slight from children, parents, or other school staff. If they are productive teachers and help a couple of children greatly it is offset by a teenager of theirs at home who has killed someone in a robbery or hurt a police officer thereby crushing another families dreams forever. They typically come into the school system after 10-12 years on welfare and have no real interpersonal skills, but the school system appears obligated to hire them as we live in a socialist state and county.

They don’t get to watch their opra so they’re extremely agitated.

Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.

DO YOU GET IT YET!! NEED I SAY IT AGAIN…..
Obama is a Marxist as well as a racist class-warfare radical.

Give, Give, Give, Give, to the poor. It is a joy to have an abundance of wealth to share with the poor. The fool and his wealth will perish. Store up treasure in heaven. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008. A new day is dawning. The fight against poverty has begun.

this is a joke! the majority of the people posting here are in the 95% that are getting a tax cut and you’re all still complaining! amazing. these greedy fox “news” anchors think paying taxes isn’t patriotic?! they think trying to find tax loopholes is patriotic? class warfare? you betcha! the 95% are coming for you greedy biznoaches! your time is over!

Obama is spreading it around right now. Be sure to wear your hip boots.

Boy, I can’t wait for my share of the pie.

GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!
GIVE GENEROUSLY!!!!!

Hey, Chris-n-San Jose:
The “fight against poverty” is what we on the right refer to as “jobs”. Try it sometime.

Though I knew about Obama’s socialist leanings, this was a perfect video example of it. I wonder what the plumber thought of Obama’s horrendously un-American and communist ideas?

When has communism EVER worked in the history of the world?

How has this man, with all the corruption surrounding him and his campaign, his questionable associations/affiliations and his
“plans” to further cripple our nation and take away our freedoms, ever managed to make it this far into the bid for the presidency?

God help us.

Chris-n-San Jose – I understand what you’re saying but Dude if you keep talking like that the conservatives on this blog are gonna ride you dirty. Currently you’re out numbered about 200 to 1 but keep posting anyway, nice to see how the otherside thinks.

But at least we conservatives and Republicans will not take away your freedom of speech. That’s for Obama to do.

Nobama is trying to quit smoking but can’t do it. If he doesn’t have that much will power then he certainly isn’t qualified to run the country.

Jobs are laying people off due to the economy. It is about people helping people. Some jobs do not pay enough to keep pace with inflation. It is about people helping people.

Simple, Vote What is good for your Race!!!
Don’t complain AND don’t Explain!!

2005 Census Figures
= 80.2% White
=12.8% black

Time for talk is over. Just vote your Race. They are!!!

The Oracle,

I am sorry that you feel that way about freedom of speech. God does not even allow freedom of speech. God will judge every word that comes out of our mouth.

Neither Barack or McCain are attacking freedom of speech. However, God will judge every word that we speak. Speak kind words and do not offend.

Obama is part of a neo-black power movement. Charles rangel, a Dem from NYC wrote a bill that would have men and women ages 18-48 to be drafted. Obama encourages women to register for selective service. Obama is also encouraging a civil war in Kenya. Thats where he plans on sending your wives and daughters if elected. He plans on pulling our forces out of Iraq, but he doesnt say “Home”. Just out. To where? His home country of Kenya. Its not a scare tactic. Its the truth. Undeniable truth, coming from thier own mouths with thier own words. Oabam even called his own dead grandmother a typical white person. Howard stern on youtube in harlem has a good example of what a typical person is.

Obamma will steal your bananas,he is scum.

Chris-n-San Jose – All I can say dude is “God between us and the Devil.”

Democrats demand I help the poor.

Republicans allow me the opportunity to help the poor.

Freedom of choice is what it’s all about.

So middle class people don’t already have a “chance for success” in America, and Obama’s marginal tax cut is really going to make any sort of difference??? How could a tax cut be the deciding factor between having a “chance for success” or not? What simple minds he must be winning over with lines like that…

Obama and the rest of the liberals see America as a place where it is impossible for you to ‘pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.’ that it is the government’s responsibility to levy high taxes those who are better off than you so you don’t have to be ambitious and do anything to improve your own condition.

It’s called socialism.

How long before we hear Barack say “He was taken out of context, or that was not what he meant.”
This idiot is a half step away from the White House and he still has no clue.
Look at all of the people he has surrounded himself with, when it is made public they were mostly scum of the earth, Obama’s typical reply “I did not know him to be like that” or something close to it.
This guy is 100% Moron, and he stands to be our next Commander in Chief.
Pray for us now.

Doug,

We should elect you to take over for Condelezza Rice. Not!! How are you obtaining information that the CIA and FBI do not have? However, President Bush did exactly what you are talking about in Iraq. He sent our sons and daughters to the wrong country to kill in the name of revenge.

No, it is about the government sticking their hands into the American people’s pockets AGAIN and by sheer FORCE stealing even more money in one way or another. This in turn makes us all poorer and more dependent.

I do not know about everyone else, but I volunteer with my time and skills, and give money generously every week of my own FREE will. I cannot afford to have the government “spread” anymore wealth around. It is just not right.

This has NOTHING to due with generosity.

Obama will not only steal your bananas. But he will sell them back to you, plus tax. Then hit you with a banana peeling tax. And a eating bananas tax because of his starving brothers, sisters and children in Kenya.

Do you think the rich, such as Matt Damon, Ben Affleck are W-2 employees?!!! When they get 20 Million a picture they don’t get a paycheck. It goes to their production company or so other front and then they take a very small portion to save on TAXES. They buy everything thru the company. Warren Buffet already has his billions. There is no tax on wealth, just income. That’s why he isn’t going to lose any money. If you have a small business or work for someone hold on to your wallet!!

We shouldn’t be surprised by Obama’s statements at all. He’s going to do more damage to our country than any other president in history, including the joke Jimmy Carter. Obama has the wealthy and the poor in his pocket for obvious reasons.

The J,

You stated, ““spead[sic] the wealth around”! good so no more hiding or pretending he isnt a socialist.”

If this is your definition of a socialist than Jesus Christ is a socialist. Jesus told a rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor so that he could store up treasure in heaven.

That’s true but Christ didn’t take from the public under the ultimate threat of death, if you refuse to send money or go to jail.

nur07,

I believe that every American can survive making less than $250,00 a year. No CEO needs to earn millions of dollars when Americans that work for them are not earning enough. I agree with spreading the wealth. I love giving to the poor!!!! YES, YES, YES.

Chis N San Jose – you are a complete idiot- That is why you are a liberal.

Let me tell you about creating and spreading wealth. Sam Walton found a need to give people living in rural areas more affordable dry goods.

So he created a store called Wal-Mart. Fast forward, the average Wal-Mart consumer has a household income of $44,000. The average Wal-Mart shopper saves $1,761 a year by shopping at Wal-Mart vs any other combination of stores.

Wal-Mart has incredible purchasing power, supply chain management, a brilliant real estate model and thus is able to pass the savings on to the consumer.

Abe Lincoln said a penny saved is a penny earned. That is before politicians – so a dollar saved is $1.42 earned due to taxes: sales tax, FICA, income etc.

So Sam Walton gives his average consumer a 5.68% gross pay raise. See Chris wealth is created by ingenuity and hard work and capitalism via competition is the most efficient and “fair” way to share wealth.

Freedom is the key – you are free to work at Wal-Mart or not – you are free to shop there or not –you are free to be an idiot.

Chris your rational would be correct if we did not live in a free society but we do for now at least. The revolutionary war was started in part due to taxes. Obama’s tax policy is slavery to the hard working Americans. I will not work for the lazy.

Obama first take my gun then take my money please.

“Marx had thrown his energies into getting the International to support the demand for Irish independence, convinced that unless the power of the English landlords was weakened working class revolution in England would not be possible.

So it was in the interests of English workers to support the resistance of the Irish. Marx wrote to Engels on 2 November, ‘I have sought in every way to provoke this manifestation of the English workers in support of Fenianism’. In a letter to Engels on 7 November he said, ‘This business stirs the feelings of the intelligent part of the working class here’.

Engels echoed this sentiment in a letter to Kugelmann in Germany:

‘The London proletarians declare every day more openly for the Fenians and hence—an unheard-of and splendid thing here—for, first, a violent and, secondly, an anti-English movement’.

Its public knowledge chris. Read up on it. I cant open your eyes for you. Voting against Bush didnt work for you guys in 2004. Its not going to work this year either. Do yourself a moral favor, and get to know who youre voting for before you vote. if afterwards you still support obama, so be it. But god is not on Obamas side. Democrats do not believe in free will. They are the remnance of the confederate party in the south. Lincoln was a republican. Did you know that chris? Did you know by you voting from democrats, youre voting for the ones who supported and killed for slavery?

It’s called REDISTRIBUTION of WEALTH. It’s the foundation of Communism, Socialism and Marxism.

In a nutshell, we take all the risks involved with starting a business or creating an invention, and Barack Hussein Obama wants to take 53% of what we earn and put it into PROGRAMS to take care of people who lack the initiative to make their own way in life. Of course, these people who need to be taken care of are the voting base for Democrats, and a true testament that slavery is still alive and well in this country … and just like in the past, it is being perpetuated by Democrats! The Democratic motto? “Keep the people dumb and dependent.”

Yes commrads, The great Obama will steal money from people that got up off their asses, got an education, and work for a living. So he can give it to people that are lazy, contribute nothing to society, and result to criminal behavior. Yes, lets not forget that by raising the taxes on the richor (Middle Class)our economy will resimble our fellow commrades in North Korea. Besides, eating nothing but grass is healthy. Yes, we will drag the capitolists out into the streets and shoot them, along with all Christian’s becuase they are subversive. Yes, a great day for The People’s Republic of America COMMRADS! This message approved by Barrack Hus. Obama!

Well, as a minorty vote you can kiss my butt you commie triator!!!

Pete,

“That’s true but Christ didn’t take from the public under the ultimate threat of death, if you refuse to send money or go to jail.”

And no one running for president in this country will either.

So OhBummer wants to make sure that everyone behind the overtaxed plumber has the same chance of success. OhBummer is making the egalitarian mistake —- he assumes that we’re all equal. OhBummer shooots better baskets than I do. Paris Hilton has a better smile than I do. Britney Spears has a better set of knockers than I do. And only a fool would hire me to remove their burst appendix or fix their car, because my doctor and my mechanic are “equal to” these tasks while IA am not and therefore in this important respect I am not equal to my doctor or my mechanic. I’m not being humble or showing humility — I’m just showing facts. There’s no danged reason to be taing one person to support another, it’s bloody stupid and immoral, as it is simply a matter of hijacking and looting Peter’s wallet in order to pay Paul [and buy Paul's vote]. Throw OhBummer from the train, vote for McCain, and watch that old lad closely to make sure we’re headed for low taxes, low regulation, and high prosperity.

I love when Gretchen says “depending on what side of the fence you’re on….. can determine whether you thing Obama’s tax plan is good or bad.”
I live below the poverty line (it’s a horrible plan), and I know that his tax plan is a perfect example of communism……… how can anyone support that socialist!?

Osamas Pajamas,

It is not about talents and ability. Who can say what talent or ability should be valued more than others? It is about loving your neighbor as yourself and spreading the wealth to ensure every American can live comfortably.

On the other hand, the education system in this country is not equal for all. Therefore, some are at a disadvantage than others. The poor suffer more in the long run.

Chis-n-San Jose

This might be tough for you but Thou Shalt Not Kill. Ever hear that one?

I never knew that the government and the I.R.S. were such a Christian entities. I believe charity is the Christian message not Ceasar demanding your money and the tax collector (I.R.S.) coming for it.

Does God help those that help themselves?

I gots me fiv babies and non of dem babies dadies gives me a penny.

I nose Obama will take care of me and my childrens!

That plumber he got money and I needs it.

Thats why I be voten for Barack Obama.

He ain’t no cheap skate.

We bow to you Comrade Barack
We bow to you Comrade Pelosi
We bow to you Comrade Reid

Like H***,

Next thing you hear, Obama will claim he invented the internet,
Before Gore did…

Chris, ever hear the saying “Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, Teach a man fish and he will eat for life”? How does giving anyone my money help them learn to fish? It only helps them have better cable service and a nicer car then i have. Which in Westchester NY is what has been happening since the early 90’s when clinton signed bills sending our jobs to other countires.

nur07, You have to be joking. As many of these post have correctly pointed out, Obama is a Communist at worse, Socialist at best. Who are you to say that every American can survive making less than what you wrote. (Not sure if it’s $25,000 or $250,000) Who are you to say that no CEO needs to earn millions?!?! If that CEO has busted his rear and worked up the latter to that level of success and the company is willing to pay that salary, then let him earn his money without PUNISHING him/her for their success. I earn a comfortable living but I do not consider myself ‘rich’ as far as a salary goes. But I also hold nothing against people making more money than I do. I say to the government and to people like you, stay the hell out of our billfolds!!! I fear America has almost become a socialist state already. STOP this insane notion of overtaxing the ‘rich’!

If this is the case, then I can assure you that I will be quitting my job at the end of January, 2009.

At that point, I have decided that I will finally go to the various physicians around town in order to substantiate my carpal tunnel syndrome, osteoarthritis, and lower back problems — all from having worked my a** off for the past 20+ years at my occupation. I will be applying for Social Security Disability benefits and will hope to qualify for other social programs in order to help support our family of 4.

(As a side note, wanted to tell you that I HAD been planning to continue working for the next 30+. Because I was born in 1966, I’m not supposed to retire with full benefits until the age of 73 years old. However, Social Security funding is supposed to end 2 years before my retirement age. So, I get the pleasure of paying in to Social Security for almost 60 years (I’ve been working since age 14), but never get to collect a dime. To most of you — you’re welcome.)

So, I’ve been trying to get ahead, trying to be independent and self-sufficient. I have ignored the pain and health issues, feeling that I would not want to be a burden on society … have sucked it up and kept my mouth shut, trying to bide my time and take care of myself until the day that I could finally retire after having made provisions for myself, not asking for a hand out.

Well, in January of 2009, I can see that this would be futile … I will be punished for working hard and for having acquired what I have … I see the wise choice for me would be to simply apply for Social Security Disability and then YOU can continue to support me ’til who knows when — at least those of you who choose to continue to work, that is. If you want to quit work, too, just let me know and we can all hang out together during the week while the remaining foolish working stiffs go to work and we can chuckle about how smart we are at having “beat the system”. Really, what’s the point!? I’ve always wanted to learn how to play bridge, have time to scrapbook, watch daytime TV, piddle in the yard and read all these books that have been stacking up …. So, I can hardly wait! This Socialism thing just totally ROCKS!

P.S. By the way, this also has completely put my mind at ease, as well, with regards to my kids — I realized just now that they will now get a free college education because I will meet the financial requirements in Indiana for them to both get a totally free ride to the universities! Wow … this is REALLY looking better and better for me all the time … I realize I have been totally STUPID to have worked this hard for even this long!!! (Although, I will tell the kids that once they have the free education to make sure that they only apply for jobs with either the Peace Corps or as a “community organizer” because that’s how we can all “give back to America”).

P.S.S. To those of you who had been depending on me to continue supporting you, sooooooooooo sorry. NOT!

Screw YOU Osama and IRS…I will leave the country. Better yet the South should secede AGAIN and let California 69ers and the Northeast have BuhLack Osama as dey prezdent…

So since you and other who have socialist leanings have decided no one needs to make above $250,000, therefore the government has the right to punish those who dare cross that line?

(I am assuming this applies to Obama and all those corrupt politicians too…)

And how is STEALING (not giving), using our own government, from the rich to give to the poor not make us all poorer in the end? Costs get PASSED DOWN to the lower classes in the form of lost jobs, increased prices, etc.

Communism does NOT work.

You want to give away your home, your money and all worldly possessions, then go for it, but the government has NO right to force others to do so.

This guy is a COMMUNIST! The more you hear him the more he condemns himself except to the truly stupid or the welfare thieves.
His buddy Ayers is a committed and self-proclaimed communist.
His buddy Wright calls for God to damn our beloved country, yet there are so many fools in this country that he actually could be elected.

I am so sick of this I could scream, I have watched these commie liberals slowly destroy this land with their perverted views for over 50 years.

Vote out every GD democrat this Nov.and let Mccain with his proven record have a shot at cleaning this country up before it’s too late…once the libs stack the SC it’ll be too late.
If this lying bum is elected, the old libs on the court will all retire just so he can stack it, mark my word!

let the revolution begin NOV 4th at the ballot box and show them who they actually used to work for. Hey nancy and reid etal “you’re fired!”

What “chance for success” did that plumber have that others don’t have?

He got where he is because he worked for it.

Darthmaker,

Jesus told his disciples to pay their taxes to Ceasar. And no “God does not help those who help themselves” that is not found anywhere in the scriptures. God cares about the poor, the widow, the orphan, the outcast in society. Keep your wealth that seems to be all that you have. The sad part is that you cannot take it with you when you die and it can not buy you a place in heaven.

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In 2006 Barack Obama campaigned Ralia Odinga in Kenya as a Senator Obama’s trip was paid for by US tax dollars as a “fact finding” mission.

Obama and Odinga campaigned for 6 days straight.

Odinga’s campaign slogan: Change (I kid you not)

To distribute wealth more fairly. That the rich were oppressing the poor. Odinga was “the Champion for the poor”.

Odinga was heavily supported by Muslim population (15% of country) because Odinga vowed to end Kenya’s cooperation with the United States in the War on Terror. “Our Government (Kenya) will not be held at ransom to extradite Muslims to Foreign Lands” – Odinga

Odinga would Institute Islamic Law

Odinga is a communist and was previously supported by the Soviet Union.

Obama and Odinga are cousins. Got to World Net Daily Newspaper Web Site

Chris-n-San Jose October 13th, 2008 – 4:16 pm

nur07,

I believe that every American can survive making less than $250,00 a year.
_______________

There it is in a nutshell, folks. The Obama Economic Plan.

If Obama is for the poor

Why does he live in a 1.65 Million dollar home

Why is his charity donations only to Trinity United Church of Christ. That racist church of Wright’s

Obama has donated less that 1/10 of 1% of his income over the last 10 years.

He want to give away your money not his.

nur07,

All that excess money can be applied to improvement our country need. Why does anyone need to pocket that much money. The excess that would go into someones pocket can be used to improve our country. Instead, someone will earn it and by several houses when they can only live in one. How selfish? People that care about one another and the country can see that.

The Dem plan, raise taxes on the wealthy.

The Repub plan, borrow more from China.

[...] Americans. Obama says he will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year. Click here to watch the video of Obama’s remarks. [/quote __________________ - [...]

Trish,

How do you know that the plumber earned all his money honestly? He could have overcharged most of his customers. Working people are living in poverty too. As a matter of fact it is the poor that are doing alot of the jobs that make ours easier.

Hey Chris-n-San Jose,

Why $250,000? Seems a little GENEROUS to me. Let’s work on getting that number down, comrade!

Oh, and it seems as if you’re advocating legally enforcing Scripture now, right? Does that mean the whole opiate-of-the-masses thing is off??

Chris-n-San Jose,
I’m glad you like to give…I do too. Unlike you I think it should be a choice. I bet you and I wouldn’t choose the same things to give our money to. Don’t misrepresent scripture either. Jesus’ point was not that every person should give away everything that they have…he was pointing out to a rich man that wanted to follow Him that the man’s heart was in the wrong place. Biblically, we should give 10% of our income (tithe) to our local church. I personally do more on top of that to other organizations. Why? Not because God needs our money (if he wanted it, he would take it and there would be a greasy spot left where we were standing) but because he wants us to be givers; to know the joy of giving. How is that possible if the government just comes in, takes your money and wastes it /redistributes it. The Gov. is not one iota as responsible as your local church is with your dollars.

Why are you avoiding my question Chris? How does my giving money to the guy behind me help him learn to fish?

And this post by yo1 was worthy enough to copy. It supports what ive been trying to tell this employee of baracks, chris, whos disguising himself as man of jesus. He’s ignoring me because he cant defend barrack on these issues.

In 2006 Barack Obama campaigned Ralia Odinga in Kenya as a Senator Obama’s trip was paid for by US tax dollars as a “fact finding” mission.

Obama and Odinga campaigned for 6 days straight.

Odinga’s campaign slogan: Change (I kid you not)

To distribute wealth more fairly. That the rich were oppressing the poor. Odinga was “the Champion for the poor”.

Odinga was heavily supported by Muslim population (15% of country) because Odinga vowed to end Kenya’s cooperation with the United States in the War on Terror. “Our Government (Kenya) will not be held at ransom to extradite Muslims to Foreign Lands” – Odinga

Odinga would Institute Islamic Law

Odinga is a communist and was previously supported by the Soviet Union.

Obama and Odinga are cousins. Got to World Net Daily Newspaper Web Site

There are a lot of pissed of white people out there as witnessed by the McCain rally’s. Make no mistake they aren’t just pissed of at Obama… they’re pissed at the entire elite crowd taking this country down the drain. And this includes the current republican administration. It’s those individuals who took down the financial markets, caused the price of gas to skyrocket, and allow the global warming hoax folks to ram their ideology down our throats. When these people revolt there will be hell to pay. I not one of them but do know a few and they are mad as hell at their simply lifestyle being hijack by the elites.

Nur07, I failed to see that you were being sarcastic. My apologies, we are on the same page. I think the only way to deal with this arrogant government of ours is civil disobedience. When tax time come around, we as a whole refuse to pay and/or cooperate. We will have to get family members and friends to put money on our books as we sit in jail though. Jeez, my head hurts.

yo1,

Trinity helps the poor in a big way.

“Anthony Pinn of Rice University acknowledges that black liberation preaching often sounds angry. But he says the anger does not advocate violence but is instead channeled into constructive routes. Trinity UCC, he notes, has 70 ministries that help the poor, the unemployed, those with AIDS or those in prison. Pinn says the words can be jarring to the untrained ear, but they’re still valid.”

Hey the Oracle,
Amen brother. I used to be a brainwashed guilt ridden, white liberal. Until I moved into a neighborhood composed of predominatly uneducated blacks. Then I saw how my “cracker” kids were treated by aggressive black youth. Then I just dealt with not having a car radio anymore after it was stolen for the fith time. After I had enough of the foul language, looks,raced based comments directed toward my family, I did what white people do, I fled to the suburbs where decent people (white and black) flee to.
Obam is the last straw…I’m with you now. My Greatgrandfather fought to free the slaves, I’ve worked enough to support “African” Americans who won’t work, won’t stop sniveling about slavery, won’t recognize they are responsable for themselves, won’t act like men and support their children, won’t acknowlege they are not owed a good life.
If Bill Cosby was running he would get my vote. But since it seems the vast majority of Blacks will vote Obama without any thought about who he really is…Then I’m with you Oracle. They will not turn my country into a socialist crap heap without a fight. I have news for them, piss us off and you will lose in the long run. Kill a crip today.

SORRY MR OBAMA I WORKED HARD TO EDUCATE MYSELF
WORKING FULL TIME TO GET COLLEGE EDUCATION WHILE
OTHERS HUNG OUT AND HAD FUN. I GRADUATED AND WORK HARD FOR MYSELF SOMETIMES WORKING 60 HOURS PLUS WEEKLY FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY GIVING UP FAMILY PARTIES AND CHILDRENS ACTIVITIES THAT I WOULD OF LOVE TO ATTEND RATHER THEN WORK. I WANTED THE BEST FOR ME AND MY FAMILY I DO NOT WANT MY HARD WORK AND SACRIFICE TO GO TO OTHERS WHO DIDNT TRY SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris

If I lose my job because my employer is taxed out of existence, how will I help my brethren?

How is it Christian to put an employer out of business and hurt so many people who no longer can provide for their families?

Is it Christian to put more on the welfare rolls?

I’m just trying to learn.

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHERE IS THAT FREAKS BIRTH CERTIFICATE! THIS LYING PIECE OF CR^P WILL NOT OPEN HIS COLLEGE RECORDS BECAUSE THEY SAY MUSLIM ALL OVER THEM AND BIRTH PLACE KENYA. TO TOP IT OFF HE IS A MORON. THERE IS NOTHING HONEST ABOUT HIM.

Before spreading around the wealth earned by others, how about spreading around the work to the deadbeats on the public dole.

I give up. I have neither the time nor inclination to talk to someone who talks about God, but then supports stealing (via the government) from those who have earned the money they make. It is not for you to say who should have what. Your “generosity” with other people’s money is misplaced and mistaken (not to mention wrong). Higher taxes effect EVERYONE.

Your sort of foolishness will only cripple and enslave our nation further, although you refuse to see it.

God help you since He is the only One who can.

I will go spend my time elsewhere.

Obama wants all those women who gave the McCain supporters the finger in that YouTube video to register with Selective Service when he is President.

It’s on Drudge right now. Obama wants to require your young daughters to go fight on the front lines against terrorists who can cut off their heads.

McCain does not.

Time to put down your lattes, liberal anti-war women, your country needs you, or so says your lofty Obama. :)

“There is a sucker born every minute.” – PT Barnum

~~~~~Chris-n-San Jose

You are an idiot. “The EXCESS”. Who the hell determines the excess. I may have 15 kids. I may be supporting the rest of my mentally retarded family who voted for Obama. I may need a 2nd Hybrid car so I can save money for my old age.

I in fact may want to use the excess to have a little fun out of life because of how hard I work. AND I may need a lot of ammunition to get a bunch of people off the streets who are bloodsucking leaches.

I will determine what to do with MY EXCESS. You and none of your bleeding heart holier than thou kind have any right to it. Just remember, me and my kind will be hiding in the stairwells with hatchets, knives, hammer and clubs when you send the collectors to take what I have left.

If the people that come realize their kind has a very good chance of NOT going home each day they may reconsider the what is yours is mine mindset!

Just my opinion of course on what could happen!

Youre right chrsi, we should just assume the plumber is lying right? His prices are his own to decide. Not yours. You are showing your colors chris.

Just because Barracks brother lives off of $1 dollar a day doesnt mean we all can. If Barrack is such a great guy why didnt he help his brother out with some fish? Wheres his fish? Wheres my fish for that matter? I only make 40,000 a year. That qualifies me for some free fish at your expense doesnt it chris?

Thank you Comarde Obama!

To the BO supporters, have you read his books? If you haven’t WAKE UP and if you have and you still support this empty suit then know that you are embracing a true racist.
For the intelligent, thinking person who sees through BO’s lies and rhetoric visit http://www.cafepress.com/VoteCharacter and show your support for a true hero not a zero.

Darthmaker,

If a CEO is making 5 million a year and cuts back to $200,000 in income the remainder can go to help this country in tax. In addition, big businesses can keep paying what they are paying in tax and your idea will not become a reality. This is one way to look at it.

Hmmmmmmm African American Racist (Wright), Communist (Spread your wealth around), the new Messiah (Farakhan), terrorist (Akers), liberal (see Congress), is going to improve America how?

Oh Brother!!

Fat, bald, white-guy for McCain!!

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Under Obama’s plans, 35% of the population that doesn’t even pay taxes would get what would amount to a large welfare check each year when taxes are being paid by those who don’t qualify for the freebies. Nice, huh ?

Just wanted to respond to the long post by brian talking about Democracy’s lifespan. Complete fiction–check snopes. As was the bottom of your post.

Obama is definitely going to take the wrong direction. Look at how good a job the Republicans have done with having a majority in both houses of Congress for ten of the last twelve years and a Republican President.

Please sign me up for four more years! McCain is the maverick bringing true change. McCain will win the election for one reason, and one reason only. So many Americans are idiots that can’t think their way out of a paper bag unless someone on the TV tells them what to do.

Me thinks that Chris-n-San Jose is a Karl Rove operative to bolster the McCain campaign. Ingenious!!

Doug,

First, you misunderstood what was said. People assume that all poor people refuse to work and that all working people are honest. I did not think that I would have to spell that out but I do not mind clearing things up.

Second, Doug if I must sacrifice to help you I am all for it. I do not concern myself with wealth. My concern is for those who are hurting and trying to make ends meet.

2 Thess.3:10
“If a man will not work he shall not eat.”

Ahhh it slips out…spread the wealth…! Take from the hard working plumber and give to the ones who work less or none !

If McCain doesn’t jump on this, I’ll hang myself !

Biden “paying taxes is patriotic”
Obama “spread the wealth around”

The American dream ONLY exists for Obama until you make $250K – and then you’re a target, the enemy and get screwed. And will somebody in the media PLEASE ask Obama if that $250k is gross or net earnings?

And please ask him which small businesses he considers the “vast majority” that don’t make over $250K a year. I guess if you employ more than 2 people you’re not considered a “small business” by Obama.

and to Chris-N-San Jose – Socialism doesn’t work – period. NO ONE has to a right to dictate to another how much money they can make or how they can spend it. If I could afford two homes and three cars I’d have them, because you’d be damn sure I worked my butt off to buy them and deserve to enjoy the fruits of my labor. That’s the AMERICAN DREAM. Obama doesn’t believe in the American Dream. He wants to destroy it.

Looks like some people just figured out that we have a graduated income tax in this country. Do you think Obama invented this? We have to pay for our excesses somehow. We have to pay for a decade of greed and living on credit. How do you all propose we pay down our debt? How much more should we borrow from China?

Nobody is talking about reducing spending. McCain wants taxpayers to pay the difference to refinance mortgages for people who are upside down! Where are we going to get all the money we’re spending?

Either way, we’re screwed.

Chris-n-San Jose–

Great work!! You’ve already lopped off another 50K!!

Workers of the world unite!!

Aack. Too many Chrises.

It’s important to note he says this to a PLUMBER. Not a CEO, not a Forbes 500 person…A PLUMBER!!!! He flat out admits this is how things are going to be for the average American. WAKE UP AMERICA why cannot elect this man.

Okay I’ll play along…

“If a CEO is making 5 million a year and cuts back to $200,000…” Then what is the incentive of being a CEO? You know, despite some bad publicity, some of them are very valuable and are making their companies successful…insuring thousands and thousands of people jobs. Why would you want to take that high stress job if you’re not making more than the next guy?

Chris

WOW! I never thought of that.

So people start businesses so they can pay taxes?

Now that is Christian.

As long as they are going to take care of the poor etc… my charity contributions will now end and I’ll save my money.

Thanks for the lesson.

Looks like some people just figured out that we have a graduated income tax in this country. Do you think Obama invented this? We have to pay for our excesses somehow. We have to pay for a decade of greed and living on credit. How do you all propose we pay down our debt? How much more should we borrow from China?

Nobody is talking about reducing spending. McCain wants taxpayers to pay the difference to refinance mort-gages for people who are upside down! Where are we going to get all the money we’re spending?

Either way, we’re screwed.

Chris,

That scripture is in response to some Christians living off of other Christians. Christians lived in close community with each other and shared what they earned with one another. Some people took advantage of the situation and tried to be lazy and eat for free. This is a socialist enviroment in scripture or egalitarian example in scripture.

You assume that people are poor because they are lazy and that people have money because they work and are honest. Both are false assumptions you have. Loving God the way I do and have the relationship I have with him allows me to love all people and be concerned for them.

Lastly, when you pull out a scripture be sure to keep it in context and dont assume all poor people are lazy.

“What’s wrong with making billionaires pay their fair share of taxes? That’s what Obama is talking about.

Middle class Americans are so duped into thinking they are part of the “upper classes”, they think that they are going to pay more, in reality, Bush’s tax cuts were only for the very wealthy, not the vast majority of Americans.

CEO’s make 400 times what average workers make. They should pay their fair share. Are you making $100 million a year?”
————————————————

Barry said people making $250,000 would have their taxes raised. The AMT TAX was considered a “rich mans tax” until it started to clobber the middle class. So much so, congress added billions to the bail-out bill to “help” middle america getting smacked in the face with this “rich man tax”! MORE TAXES ARE NEVER A GOOD THING FOR ANYONE!! Most small business owners are on the indivdual tax rolls not corporate tax rolls. They will be hit by the Obama “spread the wealth” tax doctrine. You would see a big tax increase if Barry would let Bush taxcuts expire. Please remove your head from Barry’s a&*.

Chris-n-San Jose wrote —- “Osamas Pajamas, it is not about talents and ability. Who can say what talent or ability should be valued more than others? It is about loving your neighbor as yourself and spreading the wealth to ensure every American can live comfortably. On the other hand, the education system in this country is not equal for all. Therefore, some are at a disadvantage than others. The poor suffer more in the long run.”

OSAMAS PAJAMAS REPLIES —–

Of course it’s all about talent and ability and it’s the only thing tha I resepct in people. What’s it worth? It is weighed and reckoned in every econmomic transaction from moment to monet, 24/7, around the world, and it’s value to each side of the transaction depends on what the buyer is willing to pay for it and the seller is willing to sell it for.

As for loving my neighbor as myself, you might not want to be on the receiving end of that —- when I fall down, I kick myself in the wazoo, and I say to myself, “Get UP, you fool!” So keep your sticky-icky goo to yourself, I’m not impressed with it.

There has never been any spreading of “the” wealth in human history —- there has only been hijacking “Peter’s” wealth and using it to pay off “Paul” for his vote or other support —- usually several Pauls, as it helps the thugs and predatory humanitarians when the victims are outnumbered [and outgunned]……

Chris-n-San Jose

The people that buy more houses than they can live in have a name. They are called “landlords.” They rent to people who may not be able to afford homes. Like the many Americans who were cruelly lured in by predators like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — Companies that worked under the guise of caring about the poor, but actually taking advantage of them. I don’t know when people with your belief set will ever learn. YOU WORK… FOR A LIVING… No one can give you one and no one can give you the dignity that comes with doing so. We CAN help the least of those among us… by giving them opportunity, not enabling them with temporary solutions.

Keep the Change,

The sheer fact that you have the ability to put your ideas in motion to change the company and America for the better.

“17 things you should know before voting for Barack Obama”

http://tomnelson4.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-played-hardball-in-first-chicago_6561.html

two word solution to this discussion.

FLAT TAX!!!

18% as we start it.

Then lower spending and bring it down to 10%.

Whose with me on this one.

Now Dammit! How can anybody in good conscious say that what this guy Obama proposes is anything other than socialism? For Gods sake! He has never had a job so it is easy for him to decide for us who gets what when wealth is to be spread around. Damn him and all commies. Have you ever worked hard for your own success and had some lazy bum undermine it? This is Obamanomics plain and simple. “I’m just gonna make sure the people behind you are gonna get some…” OH MY GOD. WAKE UP AMERICA. Liberals, go back to sleep in la-la land while the rest of us work hard for a living…and then have to pay for your idiotic ideas about redistribution of wealth.

Yup, if my boy from da hood obama be winnin’ ‘dis here eeelection thang I thinks I be just quittin’ my job and just sits and be waitin’ on my check. Y’all betta be workin’ hahd cause I wants me a big check, ya heeer?

[...] argue that Obama wrongly wants to raise taxes on businesses in a time of economic distress. Click here to watch the video of Obama’s remarks. FOX News’ Bonney Kapp contributed to this report. __________________ Of every one hundred [...]

Why is it the the very people who are going to vote for Obama (except for the ones who expect to profit from his share the wealth plan) don’t believe what he says? He told the plumber exactly what he plans to do and he has told it to the voters in every way over and over again. Fox TV did not make it up. The people on this thread are not making it up. Rush Limbaugh has not made it up. He intends to share the wealth enriching those behind the people making their living by the sweat of their brows and or their ingenuity and talents. Conservatives are not making it up…they are quoting him both from the past and from recent statements when he lets his guard down. He is going to do what he has said he will do except when he tries to backtrack and spin it in an eloquent frothy kind of way. He and his wealthy supporters are free to spread their own wealth any way they see fit. No one is stopping them but we must not let them put their hands in our billfolds and bank accounts. No vote for Obama, ever!

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“The sheer fact that you have the ability to put your ideas in motion to change the company and America for the better.”

This systems has already been tried…

We need to go back to only people OWNING property get the right to vote!

The lower 40% pay NO taxes! All Obama has to do is placate that group and get 10% of SUCKERS from the other group to vote for him!

geezy,

I am sorry that you have not been keeping up with the conversation. You too feel that all poor people are lazy. In addition to landlords there are plenty of people-including-McCain-that own more than one home and several vehicles.

chris-n-san jose;

Perhaps if I spoke “tolerant” left wing speak you would understand better, GO F%^K YOURSELF LIBTARD!!

Glubber October 13th, 2008 – 5:16 pm

We need to go back to only people OWNING property get the right to vote!

“The lower 40% pay NO taxes! All Obama has to do is placate that group and get 10% of SUCKERS from the other group to vote for him!”

Glubber, I work 40 hours a week, pay my taxes, pay my bills, I don’t get any money from the gov’t …and I rent. Maybe only TAXPAYERS vote.

What Obama the Muslim means when he says “…make sure others around you have a chance for success too.”, is that ALL the freeloaders that have been system sucking for YEARS will continue to suck it dry BUT NOW Obama The Muslim will make it LAW that they get NATIONAL Affirmative Action and REALLY get to suck it dry as all of us who have 2-3 jobs pay for them!

Obama HATES America’s structure. You know the structure I mean…the one that WORKS and does NOT CATER to these now MILLIONS of system suckers.

Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!

T0AD,
18%!?! I am NOT with you on that one. That is way too high. Maybe 10%, combined with a small federal sales tax.

Was that Obama speaking or Carl Marx!

Chris in San Jose,
Tell me one thing.
Where in the history of the world has Marxist and socialism worked? That is without killing millions, destroying an economy, and encouraging laziness? Let me know when you find an answer! However, I teach history so good luck with that.
Also, why does every dictator on the plant want Obama to be President? For you it seems like a good thing for me it means RED Flag and the best reason to never vote for him!

Well, one doesn’t have to read between the “chosen One’s” lines to know what he’s going to do should he attain higher office.

Open up those wallets/purses folks and say “ahh” to the U.S. Treasury.

You’re now informed… don’t say I didn’t tell you!

VoiceofReason,

If we can take care of the poor and allow you to own 100 houses I am all for it and would be very happy for you. As an American I am concerned about the well-being of all Americans, as well as, the poor over seas.

[...] "It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody." Breitbart.tv » Obama Tells Tax-Burdened Plumber the Plan is to ‘Spread the Wealth Around&#8217… [...]

Scanning through a large number of these posts, I can only conclude that most all of you people are a bunch of fear mongering idiots. Educate yourselves by stepping outside of the closed minded confines of Fox News. While your at it, learn what Socialism, Marxism…pick your “ism,” actually mean.

A Marine,
Good point…allow me to translate a little. This is for you too Chris-n-San Jose…The only way to make everyone equal, is to make them equally miserable.

Oh yeah, “from those that have, to those that need” straight from a book written by Karl Marx-perhaps more oeople should read it. Also, perhaps more people should sitdown and figure out whether they have more or less than 50% of the population.

How about getting rid of all taxes and just have a national sales tax. Then you don’t get taxed for earning and saving, just buying. Tax would be exempt for clothing and non prepared food.

Then the tax burden falls evenly an all, which includes tourists and illegals. The more you spend, the more you pay. No more need to ‘work under the table’. No more loopholes or IRS or deductions and forms. Imagine looking at your paycheck and getting the gross amount and not the net.

“Give, Give, Give, Give, to the poor. It is a joy to have an abundance of wealth to share with the poor. The fool and his wealth will perish. Store up treasure in heaven. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008. A new day is dawning. The fight against poverty has begun.”

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s NOT poverty. It’s LAZY, SYSTEM SUCKERS whom WILL NOT better themselves. Period. They are players. Your comment is so silly.

The Big Gun Grab is coming if Obama becomes President.

Obama has stated…”We’ve got to have a civilian national security force…”"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Obama 2008

Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service corps. He calls his Orwellian program, “Universal Voluntary Public Service.”

“Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . . . engage in protest activities,” Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like Obama to agitate for “justice” and “equality” in his hometown of Chicago and other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. “I get to practice being an activist,” and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent.

Public Allies promotes “diversity and inclusion,” a program paper says. More than 70% of its recruits are “people of color.” When they’re not protesting, they’re staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare.

Public Allies brags that more than 80% of graduates have continued working in nonprofit or government jobs. It’s training the “next generation of nonprofit leaders” — future “social entrepreneurs.”

The pitch Public Allies makes on its Web site doesn’t seem all that radical. It promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year “community leadership” positions with nonprofit or government agencies. They’ll also be required to attend weekly training workshops and three retreats.

In exchange, they’ll get a monthly stipend of up to $1,800, plus paid health and child care. They also get a post-service education award of $4,725 that can be used to pay off past student loans or fund future education.

But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about “social change” through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul “The Red” Alinsky.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305420655186700

Next comes the GUN GRAB…
If you look at the 2nd Amendment in Wikipedia…
The Second Amendment, as passed by the House and Senate, reads:

“ A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Obama will then state that this is the “Militia” that the forefathers intended…so now it’s time to turn in your guns…
Get Ready!

The trouble with “Sharing the Wealth” is; that before you “Share” the wealth you have to “Produce” the wealth and a socialist economy can’t produce its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.

Goes to show the failure of gov’t/public education, or success if you’re a fan of socia1ism, when people in this country actually argue in favor of Karl Marx economics.

This country was built on independence and self-sufficiency, not government welfare. Dem’s, remember “ask not what your country can do for you”? No, apparently you don’t, because your entire platform is “ask what the country can give you.”

We need to slash spending on welfare, give aways, foreign aid, military spending, Prescription Drugs, no national health care, earmarks and pork. We need to slash taxes on income and corporations/capital so that business can grow and institute the Fair Tax.

We’re failing under the weight of corporatism. We need to get the state out of health care and business and out of every aspect of our lives and return to freedom and liberty.

Neal E, if McCain had backed the Fair Tax like Huckabee, he’d be leading by 25%.

A Marine,

Kudos to you for teaching history. Unfortunately,
their is to much that history didn’t record. You only know what has been pieced together from history. Our economy is suffering now and is a sign that it to does not work. The problem is with greed and selfishness among people.

To answer your question the early Christians shared their wealth with one another so that no one was lacking. Of course people will try to take advantage of any situation as did a few Christians living among them. The problem is with the hearts of the people and not the systems (socialism, communism, capitalism, etc.)

There is too much knowledge out there for you to feel confident you know all. Keep up your studies and continue teaching the young ones about history.

You didnt need to clarify yourself chris-n-san. You made your points perfectly clear. You say you love god? So did Lucifer. His love for god is what prevented him from doing gods bidding. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The road you would have us on would put the smarter harder workers on the same level as the lazy stupid people who dropped out of school. This doesnt apply to everyone as you say. But its whats going to happen. The retards who live underneath me who cant read, should have as good of a life as me right? So whats the point in me bettering myself? So i can continue to pay for thier irresponsibility? What if we all quit our jobs chris? Lets all quit and live off the government shall we. It seems to be the only way to get ahead in this world. i just wonder tho chris, when we all quit, whos going to pay us what we deserve? Your ways are communist. And theres no room in america for communists. We tolerate the socialists and illegals. We should not have to tolerate your communist crap too.

Hello Indy,
Try thinking like a real American and vote for federalist-capitolist ideals! By the way stop watching MSLSD (NBC) and start doing some reading on your own. The 60’s are over. Last time I checked FOX makes more than all the other networks combined? UMMMM could it be that a majority of this country watches them instead of the far-left networks? Who is out of touch? By the way IDIOT Obama was a member of the Socialist party of America in the 90’s. I have four degree’s actually so maybe you should try educating yourself. Again, that is usually not a Liberals strong area.

Steffy,

Thanks for the reply to one of my comments. However, your comments imply that you believe all poor people are poor because they are lazy. This is a lazy way of thinking on your part.

Instead of thinking of the various causes of poverty you choose to be lazy and think of one cause that affects only a few poor.

Doesn’t that idiot Obama understand that when he raises that plumber’s taxes, he’s costing American’s jobs? That same plumber is now going to be making less and will have to lay off people under him, decrease medical coverage and other benefits. We need to LOWER taxes for the small business owners! “Spead the wealth?” Sounds a lot like Karl Marx to me!!!

Eh, the lower wage people DO pay taxes … they pay SSI taxes, Medicare taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

The majority of the people posting have a good sense of what Obama is all about. The problem we are facing this election is 1) the media is not talking about this and all the other Obama scandals 2)I live in the liberal Bay Area and people do not know these things about Obama and 3) how are we going to have a fair election with all the fraud from ACORN.

The plan by Obama and company for him to run for Pres has been set in place. Get ACORN going for years prior to Obama becoming Pres and if anyone questions Obama, ACORN, Wright, Ayres, Farrakan, Phlegar, etc., etc. just call them racist and they will be quiet. This is right out of the playbook of Alynski.

Time to speak up AMERICA!

Doug,

Your definition of love is obviously different from God’s. God is love. God should be capitalized.

Jill, Huckabee is sounding pretty good now.

You guys love throwing around Marxist and Socialism with the implication that they’re bad things. Shows you don’t even know what you’re talking about.

I am shocked that the rich Republicans have so effectively tricked you into thinking that they’re looking out for your own good when they’re cutting their own taxes. Voting against your own interests much? You have to make over 600,000 a year before you see an increase on your taxes under Obama.

During the Reagan administration the taxes on the wealthiest dropped from the high 70 percents to 35%. And guess what came along with it? The biggest deficits and increases in national debt in history up to that point. Cutting taxes for the rich is simply not sustainable.

Chris-n-San Jose,
True…not everyone in their current situation is there because they are lazy. Just like not every rich person is there because they did something illegal or unethical.

Your example of early Christians taking care of each other is valid, however it does not translate into Government / Big Brother taking care of everyone. Local communities are much more capable of taking care of local issues. No wasteful spending or people taking advantage of the system. You do not have the right to tell me what to do with my blessings.

Spread the wealth? Is that what I’m working for 80+ hours a week??? So I can support someone working 40?

No way, no how. I would rather close the doors of my business than become a slave.

People who call Fox wathcers “Idiots” are idiots themselves. If you want a socilist country, GO MOVE TO ONE! Leave ours alone! To those who are using the economy to bash capitalism and promote socialism, OUR ECONOMY has gone UP and DOWN HUNDREDS of times! So has every countries economy. Its called a fluctuating ECONOMY. Every system fluctuates. But only a capitalist economy will survive in the end. Free market. Thats our only chance of long term survival. So take your short term, feed the poor, starve the rich crap and go buy a ticket to Castro land if you want a more “FAIR and BALANCED” government.

demdicks,

“chris-n-san jose;

Perhaps if I spoke “tolerant” left wing speak you would understand better, GO F%^K YOURSELF LIBTARD!!”

How many years of school did it take for you to talk like this? Getting angry because someone does not share your views is barbaric. Labeling someone is obsurd. People are very complex and cannot be summed up in a word that accurately describes them.

Bush and Huckabee (and McCain) are what’s wrong with the GOP today. They all favor corporatism.

“Bush’s farm subsidies are direct welfare for the biggest agricultural corporations, and his protectionist trade policies are indirect welfare for politically favored businesses. His recent expansion of Medicare has been both the greatest augmentation of the American welfare state in decades and a giveaway to large pharmaceutical corporations. If universal health care ever comes to America, the corporations are likely to stay intact but will no longer have to satisfy customers, only the politicians. ”

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0411e.asp

Since when does this incompetent group and naive empty suit decide who gets to have how much? I’ll earn mine and I expect others to earn theirs. This is ONE dangerous man! Stay with your anti-American church and terrorist buddies, you too will suffer as those that are downed by these clowns.

To Jeff the college student:

First of all Jeff, I bet you and your little college pukes will be drinking it up the night before the election. Hopefully you’ll make it to the polls sober. You can bet I will. I wonder how many years have you been in college? Will you every graduate? How many credits do you have? Whats the point? I bet you can hardly wait “The Messiah” gives you ALL THAT COLLEGE MONEY.” Well Jeff here is math problem sport. How long will the health care system last when you drop 100,000,000 more people into it? It won’t Jeff. You know why Jeff, because it takes 8 years to get a doctor through medical training. Your like all the other liberals I have ever met, just a bunch of smart asses. I be da**** if I pay for you anyone else’s welfare, because I work for a living. What are you going to be when you grow up a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, Jeff?

To TPaine,

And just who do you work for? Or have you made your living selling beads and trinkets while following the Dead?

Without employers, there are no employees, and no tax payers to “Spread the wealth” from. Get it?

Kudos to you for teaching history. Unfortunately,
their is to much that history didn’t record. You only know what has been pieced together from history. Our economy is suffering now and is a sign that it to does not work. The problem is with greed and selfishness among people.

There is too much knowledge out there for you to feel confident you know all. Keep up your studies and continue teaching the young ones about history.

Sorry Chris-n-San…
You forget that the leaders of Socialism, Communism, Marxism are anti-God.
True Christian’s as a whole, give to charity all the time. Take a look at Biden and Obama’s tax record and “Ye Shall Be Known By Your Fruits!”

Brian from Alaska posted:
“a.. Number of states won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29
b.. Square miles of land won by Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000
c.. Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million; Bush 143 million
d.. Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties by Gore:13.2; Bush 2.1″

Wow this is the most useless metric to make any argument, aside from “Bush won areas with less people who rarely have contact with each other, and won the election”

When you say the richest pay the majority of the taxes, you need to keep in mind they also control the majority of the wealth. Seems only fair to me.

I’m not afraid of Obama. I’m afraid of those who vote for him. Obviously products of the public school system.

66% of MY money goes to taxes:

22% imbedded sales from corporations
28% IRS
8% state income
8% local sales tax

Come on…I guess I was stupid for working so hard and not looking for a handout. The problem is not the people or the economy. The problem is the government. Government schools, government workers, government officials. All working together to ruin our lives.

Why don’t we drill here in America? Oh because the government doesn’t allow us to but want us to send our money over seas.

Why do we have to pay welfare? Oh because that means less people are under the control of the government.

Why do we not have a FairTax? Oh because it would force financial accountability and not allow us to be overtaxed.

F – Hussein

1. Proposed by Obama-$700,000,000.00 to Africa for Nets to fight Malaria

Solution- Why not spend $10,000,000.00 to build a net making factory in Africa that would also supply jobs and help the people HELP THEMSELVES.

2. Proposed by Obama- Redistribute the Wealth

Solution- Why not make more incentives so that BUSINESSES can keep their production in the UNITED STATES and there would be more jobs for those who want more wealth. Also limit the amount of time people can be on WELFARE and then they have to get off their lazy bums and work for the money they want.

Also it has been said that HILTLER was a CHARISMATIC ORATOR ( historymania.com)
And wasn’t his Platform also CHANGE and redistribution of wealth from the Jewish community to the Arian Nation.

Does anyone else besides me See the similarities???

I never defined Love chris. I did however point out how you are a communist and an employee/volunteer of Obamas campaign. But seriously now, whats your motivation for bettering your life chris? One more thing, how much money does Jeramiah Wright have? Does he plan on spreading out as well? Im still waiting for my cut of your money chris.

And Andy, your numbers are wrong. But its ok, i understand. Maybe i should step out the way since its obvious your one of those who are standing behind me. Sorry for oppressing you. But im affraid i cant give you any money. Im too poor with my 40,000 a year. Here in New York thats like a million bucks. However, i think ill stop accepting a raise at 249,000 bucks so i can keep it all to myself. Just incase my kids want to go to college and have nice things that i didnt have growing up. Is that Ok with you Sheik Obama?

Spread the wealth? Is that what I’m working for 80+ hours a week??? So I can support someone working 40?

Dana, No – you will be supporting someone who works 0.

Keep the Change,

Blessings are to bless others with. If you are more concerned about what you can keep and enjoy than you are about a fellow human being, fellow American, fill in the blank, then I guess this mentality is the reason no system will work. Too many people are concerned about money and wealth.
It reminds me of the tragedy that took place at a club in Mass a few years ago. The club caught fire and people stampeded one another to get out to safety. Far more lives could have been saved if people did not panick about their own safety.
This is the way it is in life. People feel that they should be treated better than someone because of what they have or can do. This is called selfishness and favoritism.

Andy – “You guys love throwing around Marxist and Socialism with the implication that they’re bad things. ”

Occupation guess – University Professor (propaganda minister)

About time Obama slipped up and revealed himself to be what he IS rather than what he has been spewing. He is a Socialist. “Socialism is great until you run out of someone else’s money.” Margaret Thatcher. Obama can go live off the hand out I am about to give him. The back of my hand that is all I am handing out.

Chris-n-San Jose,
ummmm…did you read any of my other posts? I give, and I give generously, but it is not for you to decide.

I hope this dope can remember that after $250K Obama is not going to love you anymore. Your best off to steal your way to the top and hide the loot, if B.O. gets to be POTUS you might think your middle class but he won’t care. Maybe he will be good to you like Castro was to the cubans and give you a rice cooker….

It all boils down to the fact that most people in this country are stupid and are just follower’s. The black’s have been lied to and continue to believe whatever the lib’s tell them, they never wanted to help them only use them as their victims. All the while creating the right wing conspiracy theory, when in fact the left wing(Marxist’s)conspiracy will lie, cheat steal and rob like kids in a candy store. It’s time for another tea party or a conservative revolution. The biggest problem for the lib’s is that they have no real power when push comes to shove. The military is sworn and lives to the constitution and us conservatives and NRA types are well armed. So it’s the street gangs of Chicago and the No Cal cowards vs the armed hunter and gatherers. Viva le revolution and give California back to Mexico.

The last statement from my last post should have been that people are more concerned about their survival that they try to accumulate wealth believing that life consist in the abundance of things. There is enough for all to live.

Wow, communism livin large. On the positive side, at least Obama answered a question with a straight answer. I don’t know whether to be happy or horrified.

Hey Andy, I’ve read the tax plan, and you’re about 450k over the mark of whom he intends to raise taxes. And it’ll be a cold day in hell when I give my hard earned money to people like you who are more than happy to take what I’ve earned from me erstwhile telling me it’s only fair. I started from scratch, and did it without a dime of government assistance, so take your socialism and shove it back up the same sanctimonious hole the rest of your post came from.

If you think the republicans are the second coming you are wrong. both parties are to blame for the mess we are in. Big finance is as well. The federal reserve, the IMF and world bank are heading us in to socialism. Due to the FR creating money out of nothing we have been taxed to death. Any direct taxation by either party is inconsequential.

Every time we have to bail out a major corporation, let alone an industry our money decreases in value, so, we pay more for things.

As a sovereign nation we no longer exist. We now belong to the World Bank. we must play by their rules. we belong to the so-called free trade agreements so we cannot

When I was young bread cost 20 cents a loaf now it is rapidly closing in on $4. Our “money” is worthless.

So wake up, stop following party dogma and THINK. That goes for repubs, dems, indies, greens, all of us.

Obama can jump up my arse!

Keep the Change,

Good for you that you give. Giving is a real joy and if I must sacrifice thousands of dollars in potential earnings to allow someone else to improve their quality of life, so be it. My reward is in heaven.

Wanna make a bet the Flim Flam Obamaman will be on TV tomorrow explaining what he “really” meant!

The first thoughts out of his mouth were accurate…those in the explanation will damage control and coverup!

VOTER REVOLUTION HERE AND NOW!

FLIM FLAM: HE IS DECEITFUL, HE IS A FRAUD, HE IS DOUBLE-DEALING AND DOUBLE-TONGUED!

Doug, my numbers come from the Washington Post, so unless you have a better source, you shouldn’t be claiming anyone’s statements are wrong.

You act like higher taxes will impoverish the wealthy. They most certainly won’t, these increases are a drop in the bucket to them. Maybe they will put off buying their sixth house, buy a $80,000 car for their eighth vehicle instead of a $100,000 one, or maybe eat out less. They’re still going to be living in luxury.

The tax breaks given to the poor however make the difference between going without medical care or eating. Is it so much to ask that some live a bit less extravagantly so a thousand can eat? The United States has income inequality on level with a third world country.

i found it funny reading all the notes in relation to obama and his commi ways, please tell me how the present system has benefited the usa with its massive debt,expensive health care system,unchecked greed and poverty associated with poor wages at the bottom end, if your going to leave 15 to 20 percent of your people at the bottom end, your creating an instability which may eventually come back to haunt the usa

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Neal E,
I see you’re against giving tax dollars to the government on a graduated basis but you’re for giving tax dollars to large corporations. You fit right in with todays GOP. You’re a good progressive Republican but not a good fiscal conservative.

I’m against giving my tax dollars to the government to be a gift to anyone, especially large corporations. I’d rather they paid a fair tax rate and not get subsidies, which is rather Marx like.

Huckabee favors government health care and other taxpayer sponsored programs.

freedom is dying and will be dead 11/5/08

“The tax breaks given to the poor however make the difference between going without medical care or eating.”

Andy, The “poor” don’t currently pay any taxes

Chris-n-San Jose

I feel so terribly sorry for you. In my post to you, I blamed predator lenders for making victims out of lower income Americans, and pointed out that opportunity is the greatest gift one can receive. That equates me calling “the poor” lazy? I think I’m just calling them “accountable.” I’ve got news for you, brother. Read this however you like, but I can tell you right now… Obama’s got houses and cars too, bud. And I don’t see him opening his doors to “the poor.” Need I mention his brother? He’s only concerned about low income Americans as political pawns, which unfortunately they have been for the Democrats for decades. Keep on crying your class warfare nonsense while Barry laughs it up and blows his Fannie/Freddie profits on a desperate campaign.

Is there any accountability for anything anymore?

As a parent, today I tell my children, “No, you can’t watch TV, even though everyone else is, you have to do another hour of homework. Because if you work hard….and sacrifice….you will be rewarded.” Right? But now, I will have to tell them, “This is America, home of the American Dream. It no longer means if you work hard and sacrifice and are patient, you can do and be anything….Now it means keep working hard so you can carry all of your slacker classmates and school drop outs on your back. The sky is the limit for your success, as long at the sky stops at 250K, then you will have to take care of everyone else, because that is only fair, right?” Everyone gets a ribbon, and now they don’t even have to try! Hang on America, we are stuck in the current of entitlement towards the rapids and clinging to the LIFERAFT OF MEDIOCRITY. Where do I sign up to be rewarded for laziness and my insatiable desire for immediate satisfaction? This is great! Does this mean I can move into my neighbors mansion and drive their 80K car too? He is promising America that their golden ticket is in the mail. Scary thing is, he just might deliver.

J Dub, you’ve made a minor mistake and I don’t blame you, it was just a mistake in reading comprehension. Obama’s tax plan has a 0% change for people making between 226k and 603k. That means no increase, which is what I said. You must have though I said they would be getting tax breaks, which is understandable, but wrong and not what I said.

Davis Lee,

Why would you want anyone to do that? You have a weird fetish. You may have posted here by accident.

At this rate, atlas will soon shrug….I’m ready, are you?

I worked hard to get where i am. True not all people are in places they deserve. But who are you to say who deserves what chris? Its called Life. There are laws to nature chris. The strong survive and the weak die. It may be sad, but it cant be helped. You try and fight the natural order of things and youre going to lose. Im sorry they are poor people out there. I used to be one of them. Im not rich right now. Im not even comfortable. But im on my way there. And i am not going to allow anyone to slow me down or tell me if i make what they consider too much money, that i should pay more. Rich people PAY MORE ANYWAY. Rich people shop more!! Rich people spend more!! rich people invest more!! Rich people have a chance of employing people then poor people do! My boss is rich. Butr if i tell him to cough up more money, and he gives me less in raises and cuts my insurance, how is that helping me in any way? American Communists only support communism because they never lived in a communist society. Niether have I, but ive met a lot of people who have, mostly cubans. Thats all i need to hear.

Keep the Change, that is a hilarious disconnect from reality you have.

Doug,

Thanks for sharing your philosophy on life. However, life is not about the strong surviving and the weak dying. In the end we all die. Just fast forward 120 years from now and no one in this forum will be alive. What does it profit to gain all the wealth in the world?

Chris-n-San Jose,
That’s the difference between you and me. I already do sacrifice thousands and thousands of my dollars…you are waiting for the government to do something about it. I give not only my money, but my time on missions. What are you doing to help? Go do something real. I think you believe your heart really is in the right place. but, like most libs, you just want the government to take your money and do with it what they want to. That way you really don’t have to think about it and you won’t feel so guilty.

Andy,
Uh…that’s a fact. Go find out haw much the lower 40% pay in taxes.

The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

B. Franklin

Keep the Change,

Why does it appear that you are getting angry? We are just having a discussion about money, wealth, fellow humans, and what is most important in life.

Seems you people are just far too locked into this ideology of “SCREW YOU I GOT MINE”

Well then, if you don’t want to pay for others then how about you stop accepting it from others? That means no using public roads, no sidewalks, no public services (mail, police, fire, other emergency services). You know, because if its so unfair that you’ll have to pay for the impoverished than its unfair as hell that I have to pay for you to be a goddamn hypocrit.

The Illest,
Everything you listed, except for the mail, is local/state government…not federal. Thanks for playing.

Is the income tax even legal? Where is the law that says we have to pay it?

Chris-n-San Jose,
I guess that is just your perception…I’m having fun. I love talking to you brother!

the illest,
Those are legitimate uses of tax money. Charity is not and something for which there is no authority in the constitution.

Andy the Libtard:

“You guys love throwing around Marxist and Socialism with the implication that they’re bad things.”

Sure. Tell that to the 120 MILLION+ who were slaughtered by their own Marxist/socialist governments in the last century. Tell that to the millions more who ground their lives out in misery, poverty and slavery under those regimes. No other ideology outside of Islam has been guilty of so much mass murder, slaughter, atrocity and misery than that of the Left. History is my witness.

Tell you what, Mr. Enlightened – let’s send you off to a place like the PRK for a nice vacation. It’s a workers’ Paradise, don’t you know. You should do just fine there. Dear Leader Kim Jong Il should be happy to see you, righty-right?

And if you really want to live the courage of your convictions, show up at my front door for a little of the ’social justice’ you seem to crave so much. Please – come get some. It’s the last thing you’d ever do.

Like I said: it’s time for Atlas to shrug – and to pick up a gun.

Andy – what do you do for a living. You most likely will not let us in on that one. Where I live 250,000 lets you just get by. I live in the Bay Area. Here in SF your cheapest home is around 550,000. Have a couple of children, figure their cost all thru college. Oh yeah, try to save for retirement. Any suggestions, or should I just move to South Dakota? Oh that won’t work because capital gains will go up to 28% with Obama. Shed some light for me, Andy.

Comrade Obama is the radical left and MSM’s messiah. Sorry Comrade BHO but that job is already taken. Jesus Christ is my Savior.

To the BO supporters, have you read his books? If you haven’t WAKE UP and if you have and you still support this empty suit then know that you are embracing a true racist.
For the intelligent, thinking person who sees through BO’s lies and rhetoric visit http://www.cafepress.com/VoteCharacter and show your support for a true hero not a zero.

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.
Vladimir Lenin

Rebecca in Seattle,

Please do not raise your children to serve money and wealth. Instead, raise them to love their country and fellow human beings. This is the reward for hard work; stronger economy, harmony with neighbors, desire to make this country better rather than self, etc. The harmony with neighbors is going to require some real work and effort freom reading the majority of post. I believe that it can be achieved. Change is hard but sometimes necessary.

Competition for wealth and the American dream has stopped America from accomplishing the heights that she is capable of. When people work hard and invest in each others lives they are able to move toward a common goal with the goal as their only interest. This removes the desire to be great and better than someone.

I’m getting more racist by the day.

Let me answer Keep the Change’s question.

See link above.

Top 1% pay 39.4% of all income tax
Top 5% pay 59.7% of all income tax
Top 10% pay 70.3% of all income tax
Top 50% pay 96.9% of all income tax

1/2 the people in the country pay virtually no income tax. Let me repeat that so you can think about it. 1/2 the people pay nada, nothing, zip!

Isn’t it hard to have people pay less than NOTHING. I guess if you want to confiscate more of the Top 10% you could give it to the bottom 50%. But I think we live in America – right?

Yet another socialistic politician that believes HE HAS THE RIGHT to take money from one to give to another! Wealth redistribution is COMPLETELY UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

Life has ben around long before humans Chris. I doubt dinosaurs shared or sacrificed for anyone but thier own children. Life is not what humans have made it. It is what it is. I have mine. You have yours. Its my choice to do what i will chris. Free will. God gave it to me and you. You do with it what you will, and ill do the same. God isnt going to look at our pockets and judge us from what we have or what we gave. Its what we do, and our sincerity in doing it. A starving man feeding a bird with his last piece of bread is better then a millionaire donating a thousand bucks to a homeless shelter. I can do more good with a million bucks then the government can. Ill spend it at stores. Ill invest in companies. The government will give it away for a temporary fix to make thier numbers look good. If this country is in such a crisis then why dont we just cut off financial aid for a while?

And Andy, im sorry to disagree, but whats wrong with having income inequality with third world countries? Should the winner of a race slow down to allow the slower people to catch up? Should i allow my kids to go hungry so yours can eat? Should i deny my family health insurace because your company chose not to give you any? Get a better job dude. Dont give that crap about no jobs because there are millions of them every day in every news paper in this country. We are all born with the same oppurtunities. Some have an easier time then others. But go talk to someone of those less fortunate who have made it. Ask them what seperated them from their peers who didnt. It wasnt me.

chris-in-san jose – “When people work hard and invest in each others lives they are able to move toward a common goal with the goal as their only interest.”

Occupation Guess – Andy’s gay teaching assistant. (propaganda minister)

Amen Doug!!

America’s most savagely targeted minority group -upon whom great HATE speech is already launched daily by Dems – is “the rich.” Replace the rich with any other name of a minority group and say “Let’s tax the gays/Hispanics/blacks/Poles!” and see how quickly the howls and cries are heard.

For the Majority to be able to pick the pockets of a Minority – for their own benefit! – is not just unseemly, it is IMMORAL and should be illegal. Democrats – OBAMA – run their entire campaigns based upon what they can take from on group (minority) and give to another group. And as long as those to whom they are giving outnumber those from whom the steal, it is a winning strategy.

Chris in San Jose and Andy– why is the Federal government the avenue in which to achieve the “eutopia” you desire? I believe charity and non-profit work benefit more people long term than the federal government- why aren’t you championing those groups?

If this lying communist muslim pig Obama becomes president, real Americans should revolt like our Founding Fathers did and form a new government. Anything less would be ineffective acquiescence to communist tyranny.

“Those who would sacrifice freedom for security, deserve neither freedom or security.” – Benjamin Franklin

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

“All that’s required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” – Unknown

Obama the Marxist comes out when he gets an off the cuff question he has to answer. Thank you toolish mainstream media for not vetting this fraud.

I “live” and own a home in OH and work near DC in VA. Unfortunately my Apt in VA is in white liberal guilt Alexandria VA.

But in OH (cleveland suburb) where usually the yard signs as 6 or 8 to 1 FOR the Democrap – they are now about 1 or 1.5 to 1.
So I guarantee you if B Hussein O “wins” OH it is because of voter/BOE fraud.

AND if ANYONE in this entire country has a right to be mad (no LIVID) it is me!! In 2004, I had to absentee vote – since I was working in DC – and asked about the MISLEADING ballot (Google: Cuyahoga County 2004 absentee ballot). I was surrounded by BOE guards, initially refused my vote, a half hour (?) later “permitted” to vote with 2 armed guards watching. When I tried to leave, I was attacked – shoved down a flight of stairs after the one guard said “this is what you get for voting for Bush”, and when I hobbled off to an elevator the 2 guards knocked me to the floor and pummeled me. I was jailed for 3 days.

Trial (much later) – initial jury include a lifelong friend of one of the guards who beat me. Second group (all inner-city people as opposed to the burbs) – at least 4 register MULTIPLE TIMES – several first time for 2004 election.

Idiot so called friend are quiting Tina Fey and attributing the quotes to Palin.

Stupidity knows NO BOUNDS. But this is worse that stupid, this could be the “beginning” of the end of our country.

Ben Dover 4 Obama,
We don’t need a new gov’t, we just need to make the gov’t we have follow the constitution. As it is, they’ve allowed us to keep the Bill of Rights and in exchange have given themselves nearly unlimited powers.

Excellent comments Brian. One thing the people of this country need to remember and act upon is that we ARE NOT A DEMOCRECY despite the politicians and media continually telling us this. We are a representative republic and the way we prevent the fall you described is to be educated on our government and to act by removing from office any represntative that does not honor our constitution! Based on the last 50 plus years, we should have been turning over our representatives every voting cycle. The power rest with we the people it is time to take back our country. VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!

Barrack Insane Obama is out to take your propery rights and more of your paychecks. so you myopic idiots who want change is what will be left in your piggy banks.

Barrack Insane Obama is a Marxist! All of his associates are Marxists – So all of you Mental Case parasites and lazy good for nothing vagrants: VOTE COMMIE – VOTE OBAMA!

Tommy Richards,

You give OBAMA too much power as President. No President, other than Bush, has been able to act autonomously. Read how change is made is Washington. No President can just up and change a whole system around, that would take an act of congress.

Can you say “redistribution of wealth”, comrade?

1. Proposed by Obama-$700,000,000.00 to Africa for Nets to fight Malaria

Solution- Why not spend $10,000,000.00 to build a net making factory in Africa that would also supply jobs and help the people HELP THEMSELVES.

2. Proposed by Obama- Redistribute the Wealth

Solution- Why not make more incentives so that BUSINESSES can keep their production in the UNITED STATES and there would be more jobs for those who want more wealth. Also limit the amount of time people can be on WELFARE and then they have to get off their lazy bums and work for the money they want.

Also it has been said that HILTLER was a CHARISMATIC ORATOR ( historymania.com)
And wasn’t his Platform also CHANGE and redistribution of wealth from the Jewish community to the Arian Nation.

Does anyone else besides me See the similarities???

Shocking Video, Barack Obama Admits He Is A Socialist (The full 5 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pKr5h4g4s

DONT YOU IDIOT KOOLAID DRINKING ZOOMBIES REALIZE OBAMA IS A FRIGGIN SOCIALIST- HE WILL DESTROY THIS COUNTRY- HE WANTS TO REDISTRIBUTE YOUR WEALTH TO THE INNER CITY- ARE YOU PEOPLE F@#$#G IDIOTS- WAKE THE F&&k% UP NOW!!!!!!!

Doug,

“God isnt going to look at our pockets and judge us from what we have or what we gave”

Read the scriptures before you speculate about the judgement everyman must face. Yes, God will judge how you treated the poor and others, its in the book. How you treat the least will determine your fate. Its in the book.

Fellow Americans………Obama has SOCIALISM written all over!!! Watch it, we will end up worse than a third world country if Obama wins this election. Hard workers will be punished for trying to better themselves… Obama wants the hard workers to help the lazy idiots who want to stay home and not work hard for a living……

Andy and Chris-n-San Jose – what are your thoughts about ACORN. What do you think about Tony Romo and Tyrell Owens voting in Nevada.

sharon,

Do you realize that the early Christians can be considered socialist, or is that communist because they lived in close community and shared each others wealth. Socialism, Captitalism, Communism, neither of them are bad.

Chris- then give to charity! Don’t mandate everyone has to give money to government programs- which by the way- DO NOT WORK. If they did, we would have completely eradicated poverty and we’d be a nations of Rhodes scholars.

I love Obama’s middle name. The second you see someone make a big deal about it, I know immediately I can ignore anything that comes out of their racist mouth.

And I don’t mean racism towards blacks, I mean towards Arabs.

Ward Dorrity: You’re confusing Socialism and Marxism for Communism and Totalitarianism. They are not the same thing. And I’m sure the people of any given Scandinavian country will tell you that their socialist government hasn’t slaughtered them.

For those of you who were busily engrossed in sex education, women’s studies, or diversity training, and failed to take economics or history, Comrade Obama is is clearly explaining his socia!ist philosophy for you. Coerced “spreading of the wealth” is not a hallmark of the American Dream. Wake Up!!!

If you don’t think Obama is a Marxist below are Michelle Obama quotes – She can’t hide it as well so that is why you never see her anymore.

“We have lost the understanding that in a democracy, we have a mutual obligation to one another — that we cannot measure the greatness of our society by the strongest and richest of us, but we have to measure our greatness by the least of these. That we have to compromise and sacrifice for one another in order to get things done. That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation.” – Michelle Obama

“Iowa will make the difference,” Mrs. Obama said. “If Barack doesn’t win Iowa, it is just a dream. If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be.” – Michelle Obama

Yea let’s move to the world as it should be

Here is Barack calling us idiot bigots – we will do much better in Barack’s world.

“You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” — Barack Obama

My plans will soon come to fruitition!

MUAHAHAHA

“You give OBAMA too much power as President. No President, other than Bush, has been able to act autonomously. Read how change is made is Washington. No President can just up and change a whole system around, that would take an act of congress.”

Precisely. Thank you for pointing out WHY we CANNOT elected him with the Pelosi/Reid bunch on the Hill. It will be nightmarish, should it ensue.

“Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.” — Michelle Obama

Why didnt you quote my full message Chris? Youre repeating everything I said but in biblical words. God has yet to be proven Chris. Its insane and unfair to push your religion on all of us. You can preach, but dont push. I have my own personhal beliefs and relationship with what I consider a higher power. Its not for you or any government to decide for me. Thats one reason we left the british empire. Freedom of religion is as imortant as freedom of speech. Our freedoms are all we really have. Our money is fake. Our proprty isnt even ours. It can be taken away at anytime. Our possesions are all temporary. But our freedom, our thoughts, our hopes and dreams, are all ours chris. If we allow any body of government to control any of those we are giving our souls away. Neither Obama or McCain can take those things from me. Because they come from within. They cant be given to me or sold to me.

What i said chris is god will judge us by what we do and our sincerity in doing it. Not by how much moey we donate or give away. If i was flat broke and living on the streets, i couldnt help anyone could i? But if i earned a few hundred thousand over the years of working and saving, it allows me to spend and shop. Travel and tip well. Without my buisness, stores close down. Jobs are lost. Which means less spending. Which means more stores closing. Which means more jobs lost. All because i taxed out of my house and home. I dont know what Andy is talking about with this percentages. But I do know that i pay a lot in taxes. More then you maybe because I live in New York. Were taxed pretty good up here because of the Dems that run the state. Where are you from Chris?

I’m going to love living under an Obama presidency. Not because of the return of liberalism and progressive politics, but because I get to see the local minority of libertarians and conservatives freaking the hell out over nothing.

Captain Planet, are you suggesting the societies and economies of France and Britain are superior to ours? They’re actually cutting corp tax rates to become more competitive, not raising them. The people are waking up to the fact that they are over-governed. Why don’t you like freedom and liberty from government oppression? Where did you learn to embrace socia1ism and hate freedom?

Well chris, if communism isnt bad, then how come you dont live in a communist country? Why dont you move to cuba or North Korea? Im not attacking your views here chris. Just asking, not just you. But to all who believe in communism, instead of forcing us to live your way, why dont you move to a country that has a goverment and a people who believe as you do?

ScottyK, that is a very good point you’ve made. Doesn’t change my opinion on progressive tax systems, but it does make me believe that it should be based on real income: Wages minus cost of living.

The guilty pleasure will be mine seeing all the Obama fundamentalists (yes, that’s what you are) with that shell-shocked look on their faces come Nov 5 when McCain has won.

Don’t think it’s possible for McCain to come from behind? Ask Mitt Romney.

Stop using me in your arguments for political gain! Have you no sense of decency?

OBAMBI’S TOAST!!!

TURNS OUT HE HAD A GIRL ON THE SIDE NOT LONG AGO AND WHEN MICHELLE THE PIRANHA FOUND OUT SHE HIT THE ROOF!!!

HER NAME IS V E R A B A K E R

THEY’VE SHIPPED HER OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND HER W E B S I T E HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN.

THIS STORY IS ABOUT TO B L O W BIG TIME!!!

I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING OBAMBI SPIN THIS ONE!

ERRRR….UHHHH………..ERRRRR……UHHHH…..FIRST OF ALL…. UUHHHH….

TOAST!

Obama & Friends History of Radicalisam

parts 1 to 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthv8QmJLUw&fmt=

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGP1TW9vmCU&fmt=

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Bonus:

Original directors cut of SNL skit on bailout with original censored captions

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/7/2133760/snl%20bailout.flv

The country seems to be turning a corner though. Class warfare, wealth re-distribution, welfare state and a government independence message is working for nearly half the population and dimwits like we’ve seen on this site. It’s being bred and taught in schools. Scary where we’ll be in 20 yrs. The entire population, slaves to the government.

If you are not stockpiling lead right now, you may be SOL!
Ready for the next civil war? Unless we export thousands of lying cheating despicable win at any cost liberals aka socia1ists, there will be blood. Working people just can’t tolerate giving any more of their money to freeloaders.

After reading the numerous posts on this site, the horrendous downside of left-wing indoctrination, disguised as education is terribly apparent. The products of that propaganda repeatedly parrot WHAT they were told to think, and reflect the total absence of being educated in HOW to think. Talk about America’s chickens coming home to roost! With each annual graduation class, the intelligence of America slides down another peg. Federal aid to education, endowments to the “arts”, subsidies for NPR/Public television, and the supremacy of the courts OVER the legislative voices of the people have created the willing tools who swallow Obama’s socia!ism hook, line, and sinker. What a tradgey for America and freedom loving people.

Wow that last comment is racist as hell.

“Not counting chickens yet” McCain’s chances are slim I’m afraid. Only one president since the beginning of Gallup’s polling in 1936 has managed to overcome a deficit in polling this large was Ronald Reagan. And I’m afraid that his situation is not comparable to McCain’s in the slightest.

GIBS ME MUNNY, YOU RAYCISS KRAKUH WHITE DEBBIL!

(Sheeeit, dis gonna be uh lot easier wif brutha Obama in chahj. Ah woan need no gun to rip off Whitey no mo).

It seems a number of elections come down to this one question. Who is responsible for me? If you say you are responsible for you, then you will vote one way. If you say gov. is responsible for me, you will vote another. Just remember God is in control and we just may get what we deserve.
Clinging to guns and religion in the South.

ABC news just showed the plumber and Obama. But they cut off the video before Obama talked about spreading the wealth around.

Protecting their guy, as always…

“Steffy,

Thanks for the reply to one of my comments. However, your comments imply that you believe all poor people are poor because they are lazy. This is a lazy way of thinking on your part.

Instead of thinking of the various causes of poverty you choose to be lazy and think of one cause that affects only a few poor.”

NO, what I am saying is that Obama and his Socialist ways are saying: “Don’t wait to see if you are poor, BECOME poor and we will help you.”

There are plenty of poor people who just have had band things happen to them and need support for a LIMETED TIME with restrictions placed on the help. Many don’t want to be poor and feel bad about themselves…. BUT we now have an unbalanced society that many, many CHOOSE TO BE POOR and are encouraged to do so JUST to suck the system and have a free ride. That’s what Obama and the 2008 Dem/Liberal will NOT admit. All the facts are there.

Sorry “Obambi is Toast”, you obviously don’t understand the American electorate. Having well-publicized mistresses PRIOR to his election, didn’t stop Clinton from winning; nor did his sordid Oval office escapades with a young intern move the “outrage meter” sufficiently to impeach him. American culture and morals have been so thoroughly turned upside-down, that believing OB had a mistress will have any effect on his supporters is simply wishful thinking.

WALMART CREATE Wealth?! Youve got to be kidding. All they did is concentrate it at WALMART while putting small town main street out of business.

Corporate salaries in this country are obscene. They keep saying they deserve this bogus compensation. I say that I could WALSTREET into the the ground for a tenth as much.

Obama’s slogan should be:

“Don’t wait to become poor. CHOOSE TO BE POOR NOW and I will help you!”
Obama 2008

“Corporate salaries are obscene”

A private company or a board of directors sets the salary of the CEO. Who should decide what they get paid? Government?
Who should decide what Oprah gets paid? Basketball players? University Professors?

When did 50% of this country become socia1ist?

Welcome to Obamerika!

Stunning display of Obama’s supporters knowledge of the issue from Howard Stern:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

[...] exchange was caught on tape – which I hope means we’ll be seeing an ad based on it [...]

Reality, sorry to argue with you, but Bush won in 2004 despite have a record low approval rating, the war in Iraq and incredibly low numbers in the polls. He won by 4,000,000 popular votes. I remember the beginning of that day. John Kerry was all but measuring the drapes himself, until after 5pm, when people started get off of work, and started voicing thier views with thier votes. By 9pm eastern time, bush was back in office, and kerry was sitting by himself with his head down. It was the minority, religous and working class votes that re-elected bush. And Obama isnt much different from Kerry. Middle America typically picks the prez tho. And middle america is pretty much all middle class working people trying to make an extra few bucks. Not give them away to programs they dont even know about. This is the big problem i have. I want to have a choice where my taxes go. But I dont. If i did, if we all did, almost all social programs and finaicial aid would be shut down. Im sorry if that upsets liberals and poor people. But its our money. We should have a say.

“Spread the wealth around”?

Sound familiar? “Share the wealth”?

for those of you in school it goes like this. Little Suzie gets a 100% grade from the teacher on her work. Little Johnny gets a big fat “0%” because he skipped school, didn’t study, and refused to take tests.
Obama comes along and says that’s not fair so he splits the total and both Suzie and Johnny get 50%. Suzie’s work is now being punished for having achieved and is forced by law to give half of her hard work away to someone who didn’t do anything. Of course little Johnny is pleased because he did nothing and got half of Suzie’s grade.
With one third of people not paying taxes in this country due the “poor” status this becomes *share the poverty*. Typical of communist governments.

I might also note that any small business that employs five people is already beyond Obama’s $250.00 tax threshold so small businesses will be crippled by this tax severely. Kiss your job goodbye and watch the economy really hit the skids!

If Mr Obama want to spread the wealth around how about if he starts by increasing his measly charitable donations?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/obama-tax-returns-low-on_n_93353.html

oBAMa, keep your sticky socialist fingers off my hard earned wealth. How can anyone of sound mind possibly think this goober will be good for America.

Reality,

Gee, the New York Times says McCain has already lost?

Say it isn’t so.

No, but seriously.
The NYT article uses the Gallup daily tracking poll as the basis of its content. However, gallup didn’t start doing daily tracking polls until this election. Comparing these daily tracking poll figures to the polls taken at much wider intervals during the 1980 election is kind of pointless considering how often daily tracking polls swing.

“Reality”? Not quite. Nothing is “real” unless it exists. Until then, it’s just speculation.

Nice try at shilling for Obama, though.

If the wealthy are the evil ones, then how do Dems classify George Soros, Bernie Sandler, and all of the Hollywood elite? Are they not at the pinnacle? or are they forgiven their wealth because they are liberals? Is wealth only evil if the person who has it does not hold the same views as the liberal? Ah – punished for thought crimes in America!
We do need a revolution. We have tolerated the liberals indoctrinating our children in the public schools and in college, their insidious control of the MSM, their stoking the flames of hate with their identity politics. Their dictating to America what we should be willing to give, while they fly private jets, hold expensive fundraisers for Obama and undoubtedly avoid paying most of their just taxes.
Blacks are only 12% of the population. Some of them are lost in the void of drugs and ignorance and are only functioning as pawns. The educated among them may feel the charade of liberalism more keenly than anyone else as they realize they are not free at all to vote as they like, or do so at their peril.
The real problem are the wealthy liberals. Who are they? What is their yearly income and how much are they paying in taxes? Chances are, very little…because if they were paying their just share, there is no way they would ever back Obama. They either benefit in some way, or are assured that no harm will come to their wealth. Who are they and why is that? They are the problem, not the poor and minority Obamaniacs.

Help a Brother out and let charity start at home! Seriously, literally, help a brother out!

I have never seen such a group of angry, short-sighted idiots assembled on one webpage. The spew of logical fallacies, false analogies, and blind, rabid ideology posing as well-considered opinions is truly staggering. I am a thus-far undecided voter, but the opinions expressed on this page nudge me that much closer to my decision.

Dear Self-Employed,
We have had low taxes for the last 8 years and stand on the brink of a financial meltdown the likes of which we have only seen once before. Your policies have wrecked the economy. Clearly you were not good for the American economy. You had your chance and blew it. Now step aside.

NCMike –
American culture and morals have been so thoroughly turned upside-down, that believing OB had a mistress will have any effect on his supporters is simply wishful thinking.

It’s the undecideds whom this story will affect and some supporters as well. Clinton supporters in ‘92 and Obama supporters today are not all the same groups.

Why your wish to squelch this story?

Wallace S.
Please provide an example of a tax increase bringing an economy out of a recession. Thanks.

Dear Wallace S,

Just how much taxes do you pay? You look like someone who stands to benefit from “Share the wealth” communist policies.

One other question.
Just what makes you think that you are somehow entitled to MY money?

Chris-n-San Jose October 13th, 2008 – 3:46 pm

The J,

You stated, ““spead[sic] the wealth around”! good so no more hiding or pretending he isnt a socialist.”

If this is your definition of a socialist than Jesus Christ is a socialist. Jesus told a rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor so that he could store up treasure in heaven.

Chris: Jesus NEVER said to give all your money to the TAX COLLECTORS and let them worry about your neighbors. If I abdicate the responsibilities of my faith to the Feds, I am quite certain I will be far less financially able to see to it that the kid in my 5th period class gets wrestling shoes, or the neighbors down the street have a Thanksgiving turkey, OR my nephews go to Boy Scout camp, as I will likely be unable to afford any of the above. On the other hand, if the Feds stay the heck out of my wallet, I can do much more for my community than some bureaucratic redistribution center 3000 miles away. It really hacks me off when people try to justify socialism by such flippant responses like “what would Jesus do”. Jesus didn’t say to “pay enough that someone else will deal with it.”

Chris-in-San Jose,

You seem to think that all people are created the same….that our wants and desires are the same…they are not. What drives me doesn’t drive others. This is the beauty of God’s world. You might think that early Christians were socialists, but the truth is, for the short time they lived that way, it was of their own free will. If Obama is elected and his economic policy will be imposed on me. It violates my beliefs. Also, if we end up with Obama and a Democrat majority in Congress, he will have the power to “up and change everything around.”

Outright communism!

And the third of Americans who don’t pay taxes should have no say in how tax revenues are spent

I’m NOT paying my labor or savings to a mulatto and the same jews who wrecked russia amd germany before usto redistribute to his layabout black criminal “brothas”…..I’d rather we have a race war NOW and play for the whole ball of wax while we can.

there is going to be a civil war.

make sure your weapons are operational.

Taking even one cent of someone’s hard-earned money and giving it to someone else through government force is THEFT! I don’t care if the guy is a zillionaire, NOBODY has the right to steal ANY of his money, nor to limit the amount of money he can make.

It’s obvious that those who favor such forced redistribution of wealth are simply JEALOUS of those who are more successful and more hard working. Obama and his supporters are simply a mob of low-life marxist thugs and jealous, vengeful minorities who want to steal what is not theirs. These people are criminals and should be deported to Cuba or some other cesspool that shares their philosophy.

And no, I am NOT rich. Far from it!

Doug,

“Well chris, if communism isnt bad, then how come you dont live in a communist country? Why dont you move to cuba or North Korea? Im not attacking your views here chris. Just asking, not just you. But to all who believe in communism, instead of forcing us to live your way, why dont you move to a country that has a goverment and a people who believe as you do?”

Neither of these countries have a total communist form of government. Their governments are more totalitarian or authoritarian not communist. Their leadership never changes.

Obama is a Communist. For those of you too young to remember Communism, go to the library and read up on it. You only have a few days.

I love how communists always make excuses for communism …. i.e., CHRIS N SAN JOSE.

Sweet! I can put my work boots on the shelf and let the government take care of me for the rest of my life. Sweet!

Tamara, You are so right!
The socialist/communist effort has been so intense for decades that they even tried to co opt the Bible in a shameful effort to brainwash people.

I recently gave $10,000 to a homeless family of a mom and three girls in Illinois as a gift. I did something stupid in that I went into debt to do it, but the idea of them being on the street took over my heart. The effort worked at first, but later they went from bas to worse and the money I gave them was for naught.
No I have no money to give anyone and have to be very careful with my budget.
Sure! Paying more taxes is patriotic! Can I sell you a bridge too?

Those who would lie about the Bible to promote government running our lives are the lowest of low. If you want to help others than do so, but don’t try to buffalo me with garbage about the government being the almighty charity collector. Donate to whomever you wish, but use your money not mine.
Lefties are always so charitable with other peoples money.

Golly gee, Captain Plant, er, Planet, Sir – I hate to rain on your socialist parade. In fact, I’ll let someone else do it…

Sweden’s Welfare State:
A Paradise Lost
Eric Brodin

The Swedish Welfare State was initiated in 1932 and has long been heralded the model of the middle way. Seldom has there been so unique an opportunity to judge whether a vast socio-economic experiment, developed uninterruptedly for five decades under optimum conditions, will work or not.

Whether it is correct to call Sweden a socialist country depends on the definition we use. If socialism means government ownership of the means of production, then Sweden is not socialist. Perhaps not more than a fourth of the means of production is in government hands, although that now includes all wharfs, most communications, transport, forests and mines. I prefer to call Sweden a Social Welfare State. The creators of the Swedish Welfare State in the 1930s were Marxists of sorts, but they allowed a pragmatic attitude of gradualism to modify the radical ideological demands of state ownership. But if socialism means control over the results of production, there is no doubt that Sweden is a socialist nation; and the prime means of government control over the results of production is through taxes-now the highest in the world for the 8.3 million Swedish people.

Noted among the founders of the Swedish Welfare State are Gunnar and Alva Myrdal. In a book on Swedish Population Policy written in 1932 they stated: “The Scandinavian countries, and particularly Sweden, by historical accident, are given the most advantageous set of prerequisites for a bold experiment in Social Democracy [social welfare state]. If it cannot successfully be developed in Scandinavia, given by historical chance quite exceptionally advantageous conditions, it would probably not work out anywhere else.” These conditions include an unbroken peace for 150 years, a nation completely un-scarred by two world wars, and with an industry intact which could be transformed from arms manufacturing to manufacturing the goods desperately needed by Sweden’s war-torn neighbors. It is a tightly knit, highly industrialized, remarkably homogeneous country rich in raw materials, including hydroelectric power, huge forests and rich sources of iron ore in the north.

From the 1930s through the 1960s Sweden developed a new social welfare state, sometimes called the Mixed Economy, containing both elements of private ownership and government control. That involved retention of the basic manufacturing in private hands, but accompanied by a taxation policy which was to bring about a redistribution and equalization of income. This was to be accomplished through a vast social welfare machine to insure every Swede against practically every exigency. The private and municipal insurance programs were the first to be integrated into a central compulsory system even before the Second World War. In the 1950s came the integration of nearly all pension plans into a compulsory government administered system.

Taxes

To finance the elaborate womb to tomb or cradle to grave welfare system requires a lot of money. And the Swedish government has only the revenue collected through taxes and “social fees.” Today no less than 64 per cent of the Gross National Product goes to the public sector to finance the system. From 50 to 60 per cent of the salary of a typical industrial worker is taken in taxes. But in addition to this basic income tax, there is an additional 22.5 per cent in value-added tax (VAT) – a form of sales or excise tax on all goods and services, including foodstuffs.

The Swedish Confederation of Employers has given us a concrete example of how the subsidy-taxation distribution system works. Let us say that a man with four children and a wife not working, earns $4,600; add to this the social subsidies to which he is entitled, and he has an after tax actual income of $14,000. But let us say that another man with the same sized family earned initially $23,000; after taxes, and with little likelihood of subsidies, his income also would be $14,000. Presumably the higher earner is also the harder worker, but what is the incentive in keeping that up? of course this has a tremendous effect on productivity. It is no longer worthwhile to work. The difference, for example, in working full time and working half time is a mere $2,000 for the year, and a lot of people are choosing more leisure instead. Professional people such as doctors, dentists and lawyers seldom work more than five months a year.

The situation for the private entrepreneur is especially difficult. What is not generally recognized is that the employers’ compulsory contribution toward employee benefits is nothing but another form of payroll tax. This averages 40 per cent on top of the salary which, of course, means that the “government bite” of the total wage is even higher than the 50 to 60 per cent indicated. Many small entrepreneurs, operating on a tight profit margin, cannot afford this additional burden, and face the options of going out of business, dismissing employees, or cutting back to a one-man operation.

Underground Economy

It is said that the only expanding sector of the Swedish economy today is that of the underground economy-the secret sector. The burden of reporting and paying a 22.5 per cent sales tax has made it almost common practice in Sweden to ask if a transaction is to be “with or without receipt.” It has been estimated that as much as a third of the work by painters, carpenters, mechanics and the like is performed in the secret sector–untaxed. There does not appear to be any way in which government representatives can determine and prosecute this growing practice. Despite tremendous manpower resources (at least one third of all in Sweden are working for some form of government) they do not have enough people to prevent the secret sector from expanding.

Sweden is becoming a barter trade society. And this barter trade takes many forms. As a genealogist I searched the ancestry of my dentist, while he fixed my teeth. A plumber friend of mine could decorate his home with oil paintings in a deal with an artist acquaintance. And so on.

The malaise in the Swedish economy is in no small part due to the taxation policy which rewards indolence and encourages illegality. Even Gunnar Myrdal calls for new tax legislation: “Swedish honesty has been a source of pride for me and my generation. Today, however, I have an uneasy feeling that, due to bad tax laws, we are more and more becoming a nation of cheats.”

The Absent Worker

There are many other ways in which the employed demonstrate their unwillingness to continue sharing the tax burdens of financing the elaborate welfare state system. With an illness insurance system paying 90 per cent of wage compensation, absenteeism is spreading like some contagious disease through the Swedish employment sector. On any given day 10 per cent of Sweden’s labor force is absent. On Mondays and Fridays absenteeism may reach 20 per cent. At times the Volvo car manufacturing plant or the Kockum Wharf in Malmb have recorded the absence of 25 per cent of the working force, and this has also occurred in some hospitals. How can an economy stand such loss of productivity? How can an export-dependent economy compete in international markets against new industrial nations such as those of Asia whose workers perform efficiently?

With each liberalization of the illness insurance system in Sweden, the increased “absence due to illness” has jumped-by as much as four million working days in a year. The employers’ association desperately urges legislation which would restore the three-day waiting period before the insurance program takes effect. This would remove the temptation for leaves of short duration which often require no doctor’s statement.

Absences are not due to illness alone. There are at least 12 different reasons for “excused absences” with pay from the Swedish places of employment. In a recent experiment, I tried to phone ten persons at their places of work and found only two of them available and in their offices. When I asked why they were absent, I was given an indication of the range of ‘excused absences.” One man was taking advantage of the law which encourages the man to leave his place of employment to take care of a child (freeing the mother, presumably to enable her to go to her employment). Another one was said to be home caring for a sick child. Another one was taking a course in the Swedish language. Still another one was taking a union–administered course in how to be “a worker’s representative” on a company board. Still another was absent in order to take care of a document at a government agency. And so on. These are not cases of absence without pay. Either the employer has to pay in full or the employee gets compensated from one agency or the other of government.

The Public Sector

To provide the funds for such an elaborate system requires an immense bureaucracy, and the one-third of Sweden’s work force which some call the non-productive sector must be paid. Today 64 per cent of the total GNP goes to support the public sector’s increasing demands. And they will keep on growing because there is a cumulative effect to these demands. The share of the GNP going into the public sector increased by 20 per cent between 1950 and 1980. When the first non-socialist government since 1932 came into power in 1976, some of the grounds-well support from the right thought that some alterations would be made in the social welfare system. No such thing has happened. And the cost-indexing of various forms of subsidies will cause the problem to grow as the inflation continues.

The idea of the welfare state gains support from many quarters. The state-owned radio and television monopoly, for example, is required by law to devote 40 per cent of its programming to “informative” programs and these often take the form of propaganda for and about various social welfare measures. Advertisements in newspapers and on vehicles proclaim: “Did you know that you don’t have to be married to get a housing allowance?” “If you’re 18 years old you may still qualify.” The result is an increased degree of utilization, and a peculiar interpretation which defines Sweden’s high living standard by the increase in the number of persons living “on the dole.”

The Budget Deficits

Sweden’s national budget reveals the increasing burdens of the public sector on the national exchequer. And the budget also reveals, through its deficits, the inability of Sweden to finance these increases. The deficits grew from 649 million crowns in 1960 to 50.2 billion crowns in 1980. Much of the budget today consists of transfer payments, currently about 40 per cent. These consist of revenue-sharing to local governments, transfer payments to families, and subsidies to ailing industries, the last of which amounted to 7 per cent of the budget in 1978. In view of the failure by Swedish industry to compete for the reasons mentioned above, many enterprises are failing, especially in shipping and in the textile and shoe industries.

Inasmuch as the labor unions are still very strong (and Sweden has more of its labor force unionized than any other country) there are always pressures for the government to bail out ailing industries in order to maintain employment. This is done by various forms of subsidies, all of which are also subject to some misuse. The government has thus become increasingly involved in producing items which cannot be sold, and for which there is no market either at home or abroad.

The Real Face of Unemployment

It is necessary to turn to the unemployment situation to understand the current Swedish economic problems. Full employment has always been high among the goals of Swedish planners. But the government has been forced to take extensive measures of intervention in the labor market. For years government spokesmen have maintained the fiction that Swedish unemployment is among the world’s lowest. Such statistics can only be maintained if the real extent of unemployment or under-employment is hidden.

Dr. Sven Rydenfelt has exposed the myth of full employment in a number of articles in Sweden and abroad. He points out that there is an official figure of 2 per cent unemployment, or 94,000 of a work force of 4.1 million (half Sweden’s population). However, WPA types of “make work” employed 3 per cent in education or public work schemes. Investigations reveal that 25 per cent of the college students in Sweden are there simply because they cannot get work, or a further 2 per cent. Then there is an additional 90,000 who have asked for “early retirement” because they want to provide work to someone else, another 2 per cent. Finally, there is the 2 per cent employed in industries which are not economically viable, but which continue to hire workers only because of government subsidies. Dr. Rydenfelt concludes: “If these items are added we find a total of 11 per cent unemployed, a share which better reflects the realities of the Swedish labor market than the official reports.” While the work force in private manufacturing was reduced by 100,000 in the five-year period 1975-1980, it is significant that employment in the public sector rose by 250,000 during that same period.

Conclusions: A Welfare Society in Trouble

The Swedish Welfare State faces deep problems today. Many Swedes were jolted into some awareness of the depth of the crises during the General Strike in May 1980. Curt Nicolin, chairman of the board of the Swedish Employers’ Association, said in 1979: “It is high time we comprehend that we are under severe threat … we, like sleepwalkers, have moved straight into an economic crisis so serious that we must count upon social unrest and the loss of freedom for most of us.” Certainly the strike and lockout, and the further extension of the conflict by the Longshoremen’s Union, are part of this social unrest. But there are many other indications, which are apparent for those who study the moral effects of the present crises in Sweden’s welfare state.
In the economic sense, it is important to realize the limitations in the nature of the welfare state itself. Feeding upon itself, it is slated for extinction. The German Marxist Jilrgen Habermas defined the dilemma in these words: “The division of labor between the state and the private sector that forms the basis for the Swedish model, requires that a continually increasing share of the national product be transferred to the public sector. Technical and economic changes must be accompanied by enormous public investments in order to insure the stability of the society. There is a point where a dislocation in the social structure caused by the free play of the market forces, becomes so great that the people are no longer willing to pay the price of the necessary remedies. The demand for security remains, but the desire of each person to contribute to the cost of this security diminishes. The welfare society then faces a crisis of confidence.”

Those who seek to find the causes of the Swedish welfare-state malaise too often treat the symptoms not the cause. In some cases they prescribe medicines, like ineffectual nostrums, that long ago proved wrong. While they seek in international economic developments the b6te noire behind the failure of the “Swedish Model” they are unable to question the Swedish welfare state itself, or any other welfare state. It is, of course, no longer just an “economic problem.” The interdependence of economic and moral crises are well documented, not the least in the case of Sweden. At a time like this, it is worthwhile to recall the wisdom of a man who still speaks with a voice of authority to a living generation, Wilhelm Roepke:

“The desire for security, while in itself natural and legitimate, can become an obsession which ultimately must be paid for by the loss of freedom and human dignity – whether people realize it or not. In the end, it is clear that whoever is prepared to pay this price is left neither with freedom and dignity nor with security, for there can be no security without freedom and protection from arbitrary power. To this exorbitant price must be added another … namely, the steady diminution of the value of money. Surely, every single one of us must then realize that security is one of those things which recede further and further away the more unrestrainedly and violently we desire it.” (A Humane Economy, p. 172)

Without the wide diversification of talents, taste, abilities, and ambitions that now and always exist among men, Society could neither feed nor clothe itself. It is consequently a wise provision of Providence that causes the perpetuation of endless variety in the desires and capabilities of human beings. Sparked with personal liberty and the natural personal incentive to own property and advance economically, this conglomeration of inequality synchronizes into a great engine for the sustenance and progress of mankind.

At the time of the original publication, Eric Brodin, a native of Sweden, was a naturalized U. S. citizen, now Professor of the Lundy Chair of Philosophy of Business at Campbell University in North Carolina. This article is from a lecture at the 4th Annual Institute on Free Enterprise and Public Policy at Grove City College In Pennsylvania, June 17,1980.

let this asshole be king of the welfare blacks…..leave the rest of america alone…..this is a warning.

To grik October 13th, 2008 – 7:39 “Corporate salaries in this country are obscene”

So you would tell A-Rod, no more $27 million a year, tell Tiger Woods no more $80 million a year, tell Lebron James no more $90 million Nike deal, tell Julia Roberts no more $20 million a movie, tell Bill Gates that $67 Billion is way too much for just inventing the computer operating system 80% of us use. Where would it end in your socialist world?

I can tell you from history it would all end. Who the hell would risk anything for the success to be “spread around”

Idiots

Jeremy October 13th, 2008 – 8:26 pm

Sweet! I can put my work boots on the shelf and let the government take care of me for the rest of my life. Sweet!

“I know won’t it be great. I don’t have to work to get a home. I mean if the Liberal Dems gave homes to illegal aliens with no job, I should get one. And with universal health care, don’t have to work for that. And with no drilling for oil, won’t be able to afford gas even if I did work. Free college means I’ll just go back to college at 44. No reason, but what the hell it’s free. And with minimum wage for those who don’t work, I’ll be good to go. I’ll just lay everybody off and get to relax for once.”

What’s wrong with socialism/communism?

It’s only killed 100 million people.

I say, we give it just one more chance and then that’s it.

Obama will bring social, moral and economic justice to America. America has never known true justice and Obama will change that.

Obama is following the Africa principal of UJIMA which is collective work and responsibility. That is, to build and maintain our community together to make our sister and brothers’ problems our problems and to solve them together.

http://truthfirstnow.blogspot.com

I knew this was coming. Whenever I’ve talked to liberals and told them Obama and their party was taking us to socialism, they laughed. This is not going to be such a laugh down the pike. I never thought I would live to see this in my country. Welcome to the people’s republic.

Bill:

Google Cloward-Piven.
Then google Antonio Gramsci.

It’s quite an eye-opener for the uninitiated.

We’re heading towards a very, very dark time in history.

As I’ve said: it’s time for Atlas to shrug – and to pick up a gun.

You whiners are going to learn that your ability to be greedy for you and your family comes with permission of the sovereign… Like creating a corporation or getting a business license… This is democracy in action… Your selfishness has and will further unleash the wrath of your fellow citizens… Everything you have extracted, from the “my dick is bigger than yours grill” in your backyard to the depreciating hulk of me too SUV in the driveway, you owe to the people who came before you… and have permission to have it by the people… via the sovereign. It’s called democracy. Idiots!

communism always ends in genocide.

guess who the jews from russia and poland have their eyes on this time mr and mrs white america.

your children are in immediate danger

Parties that have had recent nominees other than Democrat and Republican, although Democrat and Socia1ist Workers Party seems redundant. Try to guess which one Chris-in-San Diego and Andy belong to.

Libertarian Party
Constitution Party
Green Party
America First Party
Boston Tea Party
Centrist Party (United States)
Independence Party of America
Jefferson Republican Party
Moderate Party
Marijuana Party
Party for Socia1ism and Liberation
Peace and Freedom Party (1967) – active primarily in California
Prohibition Party
Reform Party of the United States of America (1995) – currently divided into two factions both using the name of the “Reform Party”
Socia1ist Equality Party
Socia1ist Party USA
Socia1ist Workers Party
United States Pacifist Party
Workers World Party
Working Families Party

As a recent college graduate, and someone who’s father owns a small business, I am disgusted by this whole idea. I get up and work hard everyday and so does my fiance. We do this so that we can build the type of life we want and hopefully we can provide more for our children than our parents did could for us. If someone else is either not willing or unable to do this, that is not my fault.

There are already a ridiculous amount of resources out there for people to use…..and believe me I know, my mother, step mother, brother & sister n law are ALL social workers, talk about doing gods work, and getting no thanks.

If I CHOOSE to help people by giving to charity that is truly christian, because it is coming from my heart. Having the government take it from my pocket because someone is too lazy and/or stupid to figure something else out is not charity.

Just think of this…..Bill gates gives away a majority of money of his vast fortune to charity. In fact his will leaves 58 BILLION dollars to various chairtys instead of leaving it all to his kids.

“So this is how liberty dies? With thunderous applause”

WE WILL NEED REVOLUTION AFTER COMRADE HUSSANE.
AND I AM READY, ARE YOU???

The Barack Insane Obama media and Barack Insane Obama’s campaign have been linking Mc Cain to Bush the first day of the campaign. Where is the outrage with Barack Insane Obama being fused together with the Pelosi/Reid “Rob us all” gang?
The few times he did vote was for higher taxes, he is the highest taxer in the Senate! Pelosi, Reid, Obama and the other Dem’s announced today they need another stimulus pkg for food stamps, housing, schooling, unemployment….Hey guys, these crooks cannot even wait for Insane Obama to get elected…they want to do it now! When are you useful idiots of the Messiah going to see the light??????? You are all just like the Germans when Hitler took over! Shame on all of you!

Obama the income redistribution artist: Would it surprise anyone here to know that we’ve been here and done that before? I know that most of Obama’s wet-behind-the-ears worshipers are mostly young and born after 1970. But do any of you older, wiser people remember Pres. Lyndon Johnson’s “War on Poverty”? Do you remember his “Great Society”?

Lyndon wasn’t stupid. He knew how to buy votes. So he started his War on Poverty and founded the Great Society to redistribute Americans’ income from those who worked everyday and earned their livings to those who did not work. He was very successful — at buying votes. But his social engineering programs triggered massive inflation and massive unemployment in the 1970’s and 1980’s.

The disasterous economic period after Lyndon Johnson was characterized by wage and price controls, spiraling inflation, high unemployment and a fifteen year bear market. Most people suffered with double-digit price inflation, double digit unemployment, under-employment or inferior part-time work and utter lack of opportunity. Small towns were hit the hardest. The people who Johnson wanted to help were forced into deeper poverty and into more dependence upon the Federal government to survive.

Now with Obama we are embarking on the same failed course of action. I hope that most of you are just a little concerned about the next twenty years. I hope that you have not all fallen asleep in front of your TVs. If you are dozing, you’d better wake up before it’s too late.

49% of households have a gun.

that number should be 100% real soon.

Wow…is this country ready and willing to embrace socialism? I will quit my job before I work to make everyone equal. Let the rich pay for my family. Oh wait…they quit too.

To: bigScrotum October 13th, 2008 – 8:56 pm

You whiners are going to learn that your ability to be greedy for you and your family comes with permission of the sovereign… …. It’s called democracy. Idiots!

You’re so confused. Do you really think I’m going to pay all these new taxes as a business owner. Are you so stupid to believe that Congress, who lost millions on the congressional restaurant, are going to get actually be able to be make every small business owner pay up, YOU”RE NUTS.

If you haven’t noticed by now, every business owner when strapped, cheats. It’s a risk reward thing. If I can save 50-90% of my total profit by going to a cash business, you better believe that’s what’s going to happen.

You can raise taxes all you want, but 90% of the nothing I’m going to report is a lot less than the 30% of everything I report now.

Here comes the degenerate sick of mind individuals who get their jollies on disgusting screen names and filth in their posts.

They go on to suggest some sort of violence and naturally extol racism and anti-Semitism in their verbiage.

Thus providing proof that they are skipping school while mom/dad are away. Further proof is their obvious lack of knowledge on history when they try to suggest the Jews or Blacks are all to blame for the worlds woes. Looks like Mien Kamp was the only book they could find, but I wonder who read it to them as they never got past the pictures.

Hey Straight talk:
Don’t lie to yourself or your family. You will work just as hard or harder at any conceivable marginal tax rate. Why.. Because you are a greedy materialist.

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Tom Genin: …same comment as “Straight talk. You will work… You need the biggest grill in the neighborhood. Face the facts. It will be alright.

Rick Rollington – “Yeah, let’s take one sentence out of context and pretend that’s the entirety of what was said. Good old Matt Drudge and Fixed Noise, the tag team of idiocy, whipping the stupid into a frenzy of reactionary right-wing rhetoric. If you watch Fixed News, you need your head examined.”

So this idiot is curious Rick, what is the correct context of Obamas’ statement? Other then stupid comments let this idiot hear something of intelligence come out of your head. Are you anticipating being a recipient of my hard earned money? Otherwise, what would make you so blind to see what’s about to happen to your income and possibly your livelihood?

Demographic/ViewPoints – Can you tell who I support?

I am a felon (or a repeated misdemeanant).

I think anyone (who shares MY views) should be allowed to vote as many times as they want – even if they are felons or non-citizens. Why shouldn’t our voices count more than yours – it s not MY fault that you are too busy working to do the same.

I am unsuccessful (often by laziness or lack of education) or I have never held a job and daddy and mommy are supporting me.

I believe in class warfare – If I didn’t have it handed it to me, and don’t have something – you shouldn’t have it no matter how you got it.

I think euro-centric approach is correct- and the American fore-fathers were elitist and arrogant.

I think that affirmative action should apply to all jobs – not just jobs at lower level (of course this does not apply to jobs that matter like MY doctor or lawyer – in those cases *I* need qualified people – but hell this is JUST the Presidency of the United States.)

I think that Robin Hood and Marx had it right.

I think that Christians are the fools that cling to guns and Religion (or is the “opium of the masses” – huh)

I think that Actionable Intelligence will lead us to attack Pakistan – but was NOT a legitimate reason to go into Iraq.

I think that we HAVE an ABSOLUTE need to succumb to the interest of socialists and Marxists – who do American’s think that they are? I mean just because there has been MORE FREEDOM, more technological accomplishment, more medical breakthroughs, and it attracts more immigrants…than the rest of the work combined… doesn’t mean that America is right – WE NEED TO CHANGE all of that!!

I think that Israel is cause of all evil in this world; and I think that Farakhan and Wright are ROLE MODELS.

I think Michelle Obama is right that “America is a down right MEAN country”.

I think terrorist are just like “us”; just misunderstood.

I think that someone who is “diverse” is therefore more worthy than white people (who are the devil incarnate).

I believe that you CANNOT disagree with any “diverse” person – even on philosophical, political, business, scientific, international issues; because if you do you MUST be a racist/bigot.

I believe that if you are pro-life you are EVIL and Self-Righteous – but if you’d not prosecute an attacker who killed MY unborn baby for murder – you are also evil.

I think America admires success too much – just give everyone an award for “existing” (not even attendance because that is MEAN, to expect people to SHOW UP).

I think that we are too judgmental about other cultures mutilating female genitalia, stoning women, repressing woman, covering them in burkhas and not letting them have medical care, jobs, or even drive.
Because Who the Hell are American’s to force our “norms” on others?

I think that successful people – not Hollyweird, but hard-working, self-educated, risk taking Americans – should carry the load for those that won’t. I think that THEY OWE it to the country (it is Patriotic according to my candidates) to not fight back and give US (me) all of their money and that I should pay none.

I believe that there is nothing wrong with associating with terrorists and people who support bombing and killing innocents, because even though some of them came from privileged families, years later they will support MY candidate.

I believe that increasing taxes and punishing success is not detrimental to society; instead that it is GOOD.

I believe that everything that has happened in the past 7.5 years is all the evil Geo. Bush’s fault and Congress bears NO RESPONSIBILITY for anything.

I believe that the current banking/credit crisis is Geo Bush (and the OTHER partiy’s) fault – even though he (they) tried to warn and regulate and investigate – because WHO THE HELL do those people think that they are saying that *WE* should actually PAY for what we buy and that *I* shouldn’t be ENTITLED to live in a million dollar house. I believe Americans and that “other” party is downright mean thinking that *I* should have to put anything down or pay for the million dollar house, because it is THEIR fault that I only make $25,000 and dropped out of school and won’t work FT/OT.

I think that Americans have NO right to choose their kids’ education/schools (elementary and secondary), that vouchers are evil; but I do believe that the govt (other Americans) should pay for my kids college – even if they don’t work or go to party.

I believe that those RICH (who are therefore evil) top 5% OWE it to the other 95% to pay for their health care and that I have NO responsibility to buy my own health insurance; after all that might prevent me from getting my fifth big flat-screen tv or getting the new i-phone or paying my on-line gaming dues or getting that next keg (or gram of coke – oh wait can I get a script for that?).

I believe that the US troops target innocent woman and children and “Air raid villages” and they have nothing to do with keeping the country safe since 9-11. I believe that the “so-called” terrorist just didn’t WANT to bomb me and my friends again.

I believe that 9-11 was a Bush conspiracy and no matter what supposed attacks took place before Geo Bush was in office, the “other” party planned it to get the approval ratings up. I don’t believe that a plane hit the pentagon (or that Ayers/Dornan INTENDED any harm to ANYONE) and I believe that Geo. Bush personally blew up WTC7.

I believe that Farakhan is right that “the MESS-iah is truly speaking” when my candidate speaks; since Hollyweird and the MSM have declared my candidate “THE ONE” and my candidate has proclaimed that he can “control the level of the oceans” and “NEVER has ANY doubts” including foreign policy, despite having NO EXPERIENCE.

I believe that when the stock market crashed in 1929 then Pres FDR went on National TV that night to calm the citizens – since my candidates told me that the President was FDR and that there was (national) tv in 1929 – because my candidate TOLD just me that the OTHER party was to STUPID to get their FACTS STRAIGHT, and MY candidates ARE NEVER WRONG and never would insult my INTELLIGENCE.

I believe that the OTHER party is STUPID and MEAN because Hollyweird and MSM have told me so. I believe that actors (many of whom dropped out or failed in school) know better than successful rich business people, or professionals or religious or military leaders because the can pretend to be those experts on tv and in movies.

I believe that no one from my party “really” benefited from Fannie/Freddie or lobbyists, because they TOLD me it was the OTHER party’s fault.

I believe that if you say my candidate’s name you are a racist and I believe that those Swede’s deserved the riots and killings because they disrespected a “religion of peace” – not just the extremists.

I believe that the OTHER party’s candidate is evil because he has money, but my candidate should have to pay anything because he is “nice and I like him”. I believe that my candidate is honest and supportive because he gave his “friends” MILLIONS of dollars (of course they were my –wait YOUR- tax dollars) – but it is not MY candidate’s fault that his friends caused the collapse of the housing/credit/stock market and other of his friends used the money to become slum landlords – my candidate is just TOO TRUSTING – he didn’t get ANYTHING out of it.

I believe that if a mother INTENDED to have an abortion, but the child – oops tissue resulting from pregnancy, with the heartbeat and brain waves – comes out alive/survives, that the mother can tell doctors and nurses to kill it – as long as it takes for that “thing” to stop wretching and gasping.

WHICH PARTY/Candidate DO *I* support?

In response to:

Rick Rollington – “Yeah, let’s take one sentence out of context and pretend that’s the entirety of what was said. Good old Matt Drudge and Fixed Noise, the tag team of idiocy, whipping the stupid into a frenzy of reactionary right-wing rhetoric. If you watch Fixed News, you need your head examined.”

I couldn’t help but notice the use of the word “reactionary”. This is rather telling because the use of the words “Progressive” and Reactionary” in political speak come from an interesting origin.

During the Korean war U.S. POW’s were subjected to “reeducation camps”. Those who accepted the communist brainwashing were put into a file called “Progressive” and those who continued to resist were called “Reactionary”.

This practice was later carried on during Vietnam and these words started appearing in the political spectrum at the same time. Today’s youth are unaware they have been fed communist doctrine and some refer to themselves as “Progressive” without a single hint of it’s source. Apparently without realizing what they are unwittingly championing as well.

Johnnie1 October 13th, 2008 – 9:18 pm

And it isn’t this One Comment. His tax plan involves Tax Credits, not Tax Cuts. So even if you don’t pay taxes, you get paid.

His backgrond with Ayers and Alisnky, Communism and Socialism.

His previous speaches, “while we have had individual american achievements in the past, what we have to have is collective solutions in the future.”

You have to be blind to miss the preponderance of evidence that Obama is a socialist.

First, let me be clear that Chris in San Jose does not represent Christians or the Christian mindset. He/She certainly does not represent Christ. I recall a certain situation where a woman came to Jesus and broke open an expensive bottle of perfume ($300) and poured in on his feet. His followers were also incensed like Chris and asked Jesus why he did not stop her and let them sell the perform and give the money to the poor. Jesus rebuked them and said “The poor will always be with us” Doesn’t sound too Obama like to me. Jesus used another parable where a rich man grave 3 men talents (money in that time) one 10, one 5, and one 1. First if Jesus were a socialist, he would have had the rich man give all the men the same amount. Fair is fair right. When the rich man came back the one with 10 had made 10 more and the one with 5 had 5 more. The man with 1 did nothing and just gave the 1 back thinking he was so great. However, he was considered the evil servant and the one talent was taken away and given to the man with 10. I think the quote was “From him who has little, that will be taken away and given to him who has much”. Again, not too much like Obama.

Don’t judge Christ or Christians by what Chris in San Jose posts. His words come across not unlike the serpant in the garden, using God’s own words but in a perverted way to tempt Eve. Don’t be fooled.

This is nothing new, this is what Liberals believe; tax the hell out of the productive and buy votes with the money.

To long winded ripoff without attribution “ask”:
Cutting and pasting a bunch of make-work gibberishfrom around the web, seems to capture the selfish mindset of the many commenters. Your copy and paste is not work! Why don’t you credit he many contributors.

About a million of your poor, young fellow citizens provide you with protection from anarchy. Democracy and our Constitution are just going to make it a bit more expensive. Capital only contributes a portion to progress. Your fellow citizens and the smart people that came before you are are responsible for the permission you have from the sovergn to be greedy selfish pigs.

You will work. You won’t quit… You won’t have different motivations… You need a big honking Bar-b-que grill. The biggest in the neighborhood.

To long winded ripoff without attribution “ask”:
… and you will still call it freedom…

Typical littleD-ck

Did answer any of it! You probably were too lazy to even read – Or public school educated and can’t.

And as could be expected from lazy/marxists the assumption is that “others don’t do THIER OWN WORK”

none of it was ripped off – I actually have been paying attention and identified the people who would vote your way.

To bigScrotum October 13th, 2008 – 9:39 pm,

Obviously not familiar with history are you.

Name a socialist country that doesn’t have rebels, ever.

And you’ll have them here. Democracy, a word you throw around in your posts, is not synonymous with grand theft.

bigScrotum – So what’s your philosophical BS about? Are you one of those “the man has kept me down all my life folks”? Makes life easy doesn’t it?

Checking what BHO said in debates with HRC – he only “promised” tax cuts to Families making less than $75,000
1. But with EITC and all the write offs that leave a window of somewhere around 30k-75k.

2. he is calling it a tax cut to between 75k and 250 because he was not (CHANGED!!!) announcing hikes.

3. More LIES – because he also plans to again raise the amt that is taxed for SS and in the past couple decades it has risen exponentially – Contribution and benefit bases, 1937-2008 Year Amount
1937-50 $3,000
1951-54 3,600
1955-58 4,200
1959-65 4,800
1966-67 6,600
1968-71 7,800
1972 9,000
1973 10,800
1974 13,200
1975 14,100
1976 15,300
1977 16,500
1978 17,700
1979 22,900
1980 25,900
1981 29,700
1982 32,400
1983 35,700
1984 37,800
1985 39,600
1986 42,000
1987 43,800
1988 45,000
1989 48,000
1990 51,300
1991 53,400
1992 55,500
1993 57,600
1994 60,600
1995 61,200
1996 62,700
1997 65,400
1998 68,400
1999 72,600
2000 76,200
2001 80,400
2002 84,900
2003 87,000
2004 87,900
2005 90,000
2006 94,200
2007 97,500
2008 102,000

Under OBAMA – NO LIMIT!

I’m sure that repulsive screen names makes his mommy proud.

Is it any wonder why people want someone like McCain and Palin at the helm? Take a good look at those who make posts in favor of Obama and condemnation of McCain.

When the opposition subversions inject socialism/communism as an alternative by calling it any name other than what it is, when they find vulgarity in posts to be somehow beneficial, when the middle finger is their only means of communication due to a lack of proper upbringing and education, when those of us who lived through the communists efforts in Korea and Nam see someone calling us “reactionaries” and themselves “progressives”, it’s no wonder at all why Mr. Obama seems so appealing to them. Obviously they are beneficiaries of Mr. Obama’s educational programs.

As for the rest of us we’d prefer some semblance of intelligence, honor, integrity, and at the very least the knowledge that we are not a Democracy, rather we are a Constitutional Republic with rights as our foundation (see Federalist Papers #10), not government supplied privileges. Therefore, I am the sovereign.

Over 500 comments couldn’t read them all but didn’t Obamam already raise our taxes by not extending Bush’s tax cuts? My wife are just going to declare bankruptcy and live off the Obama’s. unlike the Democrates that threaten to leave this country but never do, one last thing I’ll bet my paycheck on Paulin beating the crap out of Maddona any takers?

rico – Put it this way. Which role model would you rather have for your 10 year old daughter.

Pallin

Madonna

Breaking On Fox: Former UT law grad sues Obama, questions citizenship

http://www.myfoxtoledo.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail?contentId=7637353&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.14.1

Get read for the United Socialistic States of America. The USSA.

So what exactly is stopping people from learning how to be a plumber?

Why bother learning a new trade if all your hard work and effort will just translate into money for someone who chooses to stay home and watch TV all day?

Now that plenty of failing organizations are going to be owned by the government, does this mean that only those that will truly pay taxes can vote on the government’s behalf at the shareholders’ meetings? Obama is all about fairness, right? Doesn’t that sound fair, too?

OK let’s see which state has the best chance for a succession from the Union? Texas, Alaska or both. Could they do it without firing a shot? If push came to shove most of the US Military would be on our side anyway. Damm Alaska is so cold in winter; maybe we can have the Republic of Texas & Republic of Alaska. We would have to seal the Mexican border, Flat tax in both republics, plenty of oil & natural gas to go around, no worries about losing our rights to bear arm, God back in the schools, save money and go back to firing squads. Getting chills just thinking about it. Today just a dream, in 2 years after Liberal Chaos, never know.

Listen, Obamaniacs. Obama is going to cut your taxes, as he promised, only after he raises them first. I know this is too complex a logic for those of you graduates from Head Start, public schools and American universities of the last 30 years. But Obama’s comments to the plummer is just another, among many proofs, that he is a socialist and an un-American candidate. Obama is a socialist. Socialism is, and has always been, the most un-American form of governent. Obama is both.

This is the same Obama whose tax returns show charitable contributions totaling about 1%. Apparently, he only wants to spread other people’s wealth around. But the stupid now outnumber the intelligent, so if Obama chucked a poo into the audience at a campaign stop, people would be trampled in the chaotic fight to claim the messiah’s turd. The republic is doomed.

For some reason when you break up Barack’s talking points you can get some rather strange combinations. From “It’s not that I want to punish your success” you can get:

1. It’s not that I want to punish.
2. I want to punish.
3. I want to punish your success.

Perhaps it’s just the whisky.

It’s called income redistribution. And, there’s nothing new about it. No change here!

Small ole’ Marxist ideas.

Bad, Bad, Bad!

Mike you ain’t taking Texas and leaving Tennessee behind. :-)

Notice how BHO, without hesitation said we have to spread the wealth around, sounds a lot like K.Marx ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his need’. When BHO tells the truth, he does not him and haw, no equivocation, just we need to spread the wealth around. Watch out BHO, you are letting your g uard down, tomorrow we will get the explanation from his lackeys about what he really meant.

OK let’s see which state has the best chance for a succession from the Union? Texas, Alaska or both. Could they do it without firing a shot? If push came to shove most of the US Military would be on our side anyway. Damm Alaska is so cold in winter; maybe we can have the Republic of Texas & Republic of Alaska. We would have to seal the Mexican border, Flat tax in both republics, plenty of oil & natural gas to go around, no worries about losing our rights to bear arm, God back in the schools, save money and go back to firing squads. Getting chills just thinking about it. Today just a dream, in 2 years after Liberal Chaos, never know.
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I was thinking Montana, where it can likely be done legally. Montana joined the union via constitutional comapact. One of the provisions is that the 2nd amendment can not be infringed. Obama will undoubtedly try to get some guns, and then there you go. Montana says thanks but see ya, and it would even be legal.

This election is causing racism, I believe we will be in a Civil War if this clown is elected!
I don’t know why the MEDIA has promoted this empty suit – THEY will have blood on THEIR hands when the crap finally hits the fan!

Beware, if Obama looses, his cult supporters will be in the streets and “in your face”!!

Let’s just lay it out–the percentage of stupid people in this country has increased dramatically in the last 30 years. This is only going to change when enough Americans who have the balls simply say–I’ve had it. “Spread the wealth around”–Karl Marx is smiling right now.
Class warfare, envy, progressive tax, etc. I can only conclude that if you vote Obama, you
1. hate America, 2. hate yourself 3.have no idea how jobs are created. 4. Must think that the guy who makes $25,000 year employees people, vs the business owner who goes to bed at night terrified about how he will make payroll this week.
The silent majority–time to rise up.

I cant believe some of the rubbish people say here…..do you republicans realise whats gonna happen in NOV…your candidate will lose and Obama will win….you poor rednecks…the saddest thing is even though you guys hate him, he will still help you people and you will see how good change really is…..

I, for one, welcome our new messiah. He’s gonna win all 57 states in a landslide!

Oh– I’m late for class. My professor is having us trade crack for voter registrations down at the red-light district (ACORN rally).

For those of you who think that Obama is going to do what Bin Laden couldn’t, you might want to start praying to the east. After all, my 20 years of public education have taught me that (in addition to America is the root of all evil) the only bad regions are the western ones!

Drone or Druitt – go CHANGE your diaper! Or do others have to do that for you too?

Chris-n-San Jose,
I resent your insinuation that the plumber might be stealing from his clients, to make your point of forced charity. Negative accusations are usually made by people who have personal acquaintance with the negative behavior. Ummmm, are you someone who cheats others to get ahead?

“If a CEO is making 5 million a year and cuts back to $200,000 in income the remainder can go to help this country in tax.” How about this scenario: the CEOs with the abilities to work 80+ hours a week and operate multi-faceted, multi-functional companies decide it’s not worth their efforts to continue for only $200,000 so they quit. The companies go bankrupt and 50,000 to 150,000 to 1,000,000 (with all the anxillary companies thrown in) employees are fired because there is no company at which to work.

Why would anyone work with such difficult challenges for little more or the same as the workers who get out at 9 to 5 and have no other responsibilities?

I suggest that Chris-n-San Jose be the one who gives up his free time, extra sleep-ins, time with the family, and other perks of American society so that he can labor for the welfare of all citizens who make less than he does right now. Come on Chris-n-San Jose, put your behavior where your mouth is, or are you just a person who expects everyone else to pull your weight?

Hey guys, I’m a conservative teacher and I see this crap in school every day. The kids are brain washed by “Rock the Vote” MTV and many of their liberal teachers. Most of them, and their parents, want something for nothing. They love Obama and socialism, they are just too ignorant to realize that once the rich are taxed into oblivion so go the jobs for their folks.

http://www.freeamericanminds.com

It’s amazing to think we would ask CEOs to “cut back” to $200,000 per year. Why should a CEO limit his salary that steeply? Given that he can will ask himself “why should I do that if we have baseball players and entertainers making that and more per annum?”

When you get into the figures that Barack speaks of you’re delving into the professional service population. The simple way to account for any loss of revenue/income from such taxes would be to raise your rates. The professions impacted would include: architecture, engineering, law, medicine, highly skilled trades, etc.

Professional fees will [have to] rise.

Druitt October 13th, 2008 – 11:08 pm
I cant believe some of the rubbish people say here…..do you republicans realise whats gonna happen in NOV…your candidate will lose and Obama will win….you poor rednecks…the saddest thing is even though you guys hate him, he will still help you people and you will see how good change really is…..

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Remember that other Democrat who said something like, “Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country”?

Do you actually believe that it is the best interest of the country to vote for whoever can give us the most?

I have a daughter in college at 50k per year via loans- but that’s my job to pay for her college, not my neighbor.

I’ve worked my whole life and own a home. I don’t believe that those that don’t have a job should be given home ownership.

I have accepted responsibility for my financial decisions, and will never accept the responsibility for everybody elses.

Why do Obama supporters just write off as rhetoric the fact that Obama is a trained community organizer straight from the communist disciples of Saul Alinsky, just google Obama and the Industrial Areas Foundation. His plan is “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” which is straight from the lips of Marx. That’s not rhetoric or scare tactics, that’s the facts and heck yeah…those facts scare me enough to vote to anyone but Obama…even McCain!

My friends…

Mr. Obama wants to impose a minimum of 40% death tax to be paid to the federal government when one passes on.

For illustration purposes, let’s round it to 50%, when the states want a piece as well.

A small business owner loses at least 50% to taxes when he/she earns it already. So the business owner gets only one dollar out of two earned after all expenses and overhead have been paid.

So, an owner of a business works his butt off, with precious, blood, sweat, tears and time. He gets 50 cents out of each dollar earned by honest effort.

Now the poor business owner passes away leaving his family to fend for itself. The business that the father worked so hard to build for his family must be sold off at fire sale prices in order to pay the death tax!

So. The business cannot be passed on to the sons and daughters of the founder as it must be liquidated to give the wonderful government a pound of flesh to waste with abandon..

Now. On the full amount that is left in a person’s estate, Obama and his pals want another 50%! The hapless family is left with roughly only 25 cents on the dollar that their beloved family member worked their tail off in order to acheive security and prosperity for his family.

Let’s get this straight… The government gets 75 cents, and the family who earned it gets 25 cents?

Wow, that sure sounds like slavery to me.

I can promise you that this will not be taken lying down by the little guys like us who keep this system going.

Perhaps the best thing to do is starve the beast by getting away from its fiat, counterfeit, debt-note laden system and doing transactions among ourselves.

Let’s cut out the middleman paracites before they eat us alive and our children too.

By the way:

Obama wants to raise the cap on SS and Medicare. Why should we pay it. Those of us in our 50’s won’t get a dime anyway! Phase it out over time and call it a day.

When the feds fail to deliver on these promises, I bet something will force radical change. If it means that we have to disassemble the entire system and start over again, so be it!

I say, keep our great Constitution, Bill of Rights and a few selected other pertinent laws based upon commonly-held morals and the Golden Rule. Toss the rest of the law books into a shredder and start anew. Every reasonable person should know the law. The way things are now, law is so complicated that even a law professor can’t figure it out. Yes, ignorance of the law is an excuse when an average person cannot tell if he is breaching one!

We’re going the same way as Ancient Rome as it is now. The politicians do not represent the people anymore, so we have to begin to take our country back peacefully but surely.

I for one don’t want to pass this mess along to future generations. They will have enough challenges as it is anyway. I think most would agree with me, we want to leave this nation a little better than we found it. We want our freedoms back.

Are you listening politicians? We ask today, we demand tomorrow!

Tax and spend Obama OR Borrow and spend McCain…

Don’t fool yourselves sheople! You are ALL morons!

Let’s inform our misguided Obama supporting friends about this video. What sane, productive person would vote for Obama? Nobody.

It is my understanding that small business owners will HAVE to offer medical benefits to their employees under Obamas plan – is this so?

Gee, now plumbers have wealth to “spread around”.

Well ive been gone for a few hours and i see new people have jumped in. To Chris, forget the 2 contries mentioned then. Pick any other communist country. Cant? I wonder why that is. Because communism goes against human nature Chris. It can only work in a small country with a small population, Same as socialism. A country as large as USA, or China and Russia, those forms do not last long. Capitalism can last forever. You look at this market crash as something new. Its not. Our economy is like every socialist country’s economy. It fluctuates. The big difference is that our economy will bounce back much faster then the socialist ones. China has seemed to merge communism with capitalism and a democratically elected govrment. Its the first this world has seen it so its too early to say if it will work. It will be interesting though to see how many decades it will take before the chinese form unions and go on strike. Im ok with countries being equal to america. But They should have to work up to our standards. Lowering super powers down to third world status doesnt make any sense Andy. Im sorry dude. I just cant figure out how that helps anyone except thos in the third world.

And to the guy who suggested what Obama is doing in relation to Frica. Thats great dude. But this ISNT AFRICA! Africa needs to solve its own problems. Africa needs to end its own racism. Countries like Zimbabwe made a huge mistake by kicking the whites off and letting thier farmland turn to dust. Those farms can feed the whole continent. But theres no peace in africa. Its a war zone. The congo is hell on earth. They are in no position to be giving us advice on how to live. Tell them to get aids, hunger, poverty and genocide under control before they dare try and tell others how to live.

“I’m sure that repulsive screen names makes his mommy proud.”
John. You find it repulsive? Sorry, I see squarly through your hypicritical charade. (Notice the some of screen names of your soul-brother facist/greedy/immoral breathren throughout the thread.
Is it any wonder why people want someone like McCain and Palin at the helm? Take a good look at those who make posts in favor of Obama and condemnation of McCain.
…mega-ditto my previous comment.
“When the opposition subversions inject socialism/communism as an alternative by calling it any name other than what it is, when they find vulgarity in posts to be somehow beneficial, when the middle finger is their only means of communication due to a lack of proper upbringing and education, when those of us who lived through the communists efforts in Korea and Nam see someone calling us “reactionaries” and themselves “progressives”,…”
Hey John, Sorry to single you out, but I really find amusement in laying bare the fundamental hypocrisy of you and your ilk exemplified in little (private school no doubt) turd nuggets scattered throughout the 500+ posts so far.
Since at least you try exhibit you prowess in history, logical analysis, and good grammar, I’ll try to be clear with you.
You are scared. A little bit more of the money that you have been given permission to earn will e distributed to others who work just as hard as you do. You are not going to work less, you are going to work the same. You are not going to leave the country (It’s OK to wish you could though.)
You will not cheat on your taxes, but it’s OK to complain. You and I know that you and your ilk generally like to avoid risky things like military service and going to jail for tax evasion.
“….omitted little drivel comment…”
“As for the rest of us we’d prefer some semblance of intelligence, honor, integrity,…”
It sounds good, but its all bluster from the most fearful and greedy among us.
INTELLIGENCE? – Witness, Columbia University/Harvard Law School (Private school BTW) vs. bottom of the rung at legacy sponsored Naval Academy. (Don’t even start with Sarah Palin.)
HONOR? – There is a little misconceived war still to be paid for, and you and your ilk are going to pay for it!
INTEGRITY? – Are you going to cheat on your taxes? Are you going to abandon your country? Are you going to advocate secession? Violence? Hate? (No you aren’t. It’s evidenced by your brave response to my post, while ignoring your greedy, selfish, dishonest rightwing friends.)
“…and at the very least the knowledge that we are not a Democracy, rather we are a Constitutional Republic with rights as our foundation (see Federalist Papers #10), not government supplied privileges. Therefore, I am the sovereign.”
For the final time, John no, you are not the sovereign. When you trotted down to get business license for the cheesy franchise, financial advisor, or whatever non-productive endeavor you think is so valuable, you got permission from the sovereign. Just like the poor slobs who got land grants from George Washington himself.
So stop your whining. Be more Christian like and do your patriotic duty to save America from the foolishness of 30 years of trickle down.
You will still be able to have the biggest grill in your sub-division.

An Obama presidency will be good for only one industry: the underground cash industry. That will thrive as more and more people hide income from the IRS so they aren’t taxed on it.

Simple, Vote What is good for your Race!!!

Don’t complain AND don’t Explain!!

2005 Census Figures
= 80.2% White
= 12.8% black

Time for talk is over. Just vote your Race. They are!!!

Notice how Obama and every other Democrat tell the down and out how they aregonna help rb=very one, but they never do any th9ing for the person they are talking to…….I’ve watched this manure apeal for 50 or more years. It’s the same old malarky accept this time they got a for real socialist or secret Black Muslim.

Kam, thats the most racist thing ive ever heard in my life!!!! hahahaha j/k dude. But i couldnt wait for some bleeding heart blinded useful idiot to say it! Youre so right. But i gotta say, thier cause is nible. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The liberal way goes against numan nature. And africa is the last place id go lookin for a model of a civilized and prosperous form of government or way of life. Let the third world figure out thier own problems like we did. Let them fight thier own battles. Let them end genocide for christ sake! Africa has centuries to go before it will catch up to the rest of the world. They are a perfect example of how we are not all created equal. If you prick a rabbit it bleeds too. But we dont let rabbits vote. Why? Because of our percieved notion that we are greater. On top of the food chain. The laws of nature are the most powerful laws of all. You cannot bend, break or subverse them in any way. They have been around long before man was. They are the reason we are all alive today. Only the strong survive. Thats how it is. If the third world had it like we did, they would be the same way we are. They live according to the world they have made for themselves. Aids, poverty, genocide, sratvation. Those are all problems africans brought upon themselves. Not individually ofcourse. But the people in power who control the food and guns over there, conhtrol the masses. And untll they all have guns and fight back, there will never be peace.

the illest,
“Well then, if you don’t want to pay for others then how about you stop accepting it from others? That means no using public roads, no sidewalks, no public services (mail, police, fire, other emergency services). You know, because if its so unfair that you’ll have to pay for the impoverished than its unfair as hell that I have to pay for you to be a goddamn hypocrit.”

Are you truly that ill and your brain is not functioning? Who do you think is paying for the public roads, sidewalks, mail, police, fire, etc.? It certainly isn’t the impoverished as you call them! Now you don’t want those who pay for the services to use what they pay for and allow you the freedom to also use? DUH…DUH…DUH…DUH…DUH

I am seriously thinking these “polls” are manipulated by ACORN too LOL, there is no way this IDIOT can be ahead of McCain a true leader and hero verses a Socialist Thug.

Another concern is that he’s said that he will give amnesty and driver’s license to illegal immigrants…that will ensure they vote democrat in the future and these are the “citizens” that will be getting their yearly stipend checks..Pray for us all!

KAM………..you are embarrassing yourself….you are an idiot, I can see that you are a liberal, they are all idiots.

Let’s remember that if Obama does manage to steal the election through his Acorn, his lies and deceipt, and with his willing accomplices in the mainstream media, that his will be a shady victory of shadows. He will not have won the hearts and minds of 1/2 of the nation who were on to him and his evil ways and chicanery.

He will be watched like a hawk and before too long his real personality and his Chicago thug background will emerge. I predict that within one month after he has taken office there will be tremendous voter remorse because people will feel like they have been tricked into voting for a mirage.

Our enemies overseas will feel they have another liberal like Carter or Clinton in office who hates the military and doesn’t understand warfare, and this nation will begin to suffer new attacks on its soil, because our enemies will know Obama will look at the attacks as Clinton did, as a police matter and not an attack necessitating war.

Obama will weaken the US military because they do not respect him. He will not be able to take credit for ending the war because it won’t end – the Islamic fascists will cheer at his victory and know they have won too. They’ll attack our cities again. That’s why they are sending him millions in unreported money. They own this Kenyan Muslim. He is not his own man.

Today On FOX: Former UT law grad sues Obama, questions citizenship

http://www.myfoxtoledo.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail?contentId=7637353&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.14.1

EXTRA: Extended Berg interview

http://www.myfoxtoledo.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7637919&version=1&locale=EN-US

Fro mthe Afterword to ‘Anthem –

The greatest guilt today is that of people who accept collectivism by moral default; the people who seek protection from the necessity of taking a stand, by refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word; the people who believe that the content of ideas need not be examined, that principles need not be defined, and that facts can be eliminated by keeping one’s eyes shut. They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: “But I didn’t mean this!”

Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating or condemning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead.
They must face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.
–Ayn Rand. April, 1946

B. Hussein Obama’s own words betray his Marxist philosophy. Sadly, neo-cons and the Marxist media have conspired to give us a Fascist as an alternative. Even, Palin, who cheered conservatives is slowly accepting McCain’s dogma. Palin was chosen to keep conservatives from goin third party en-masse. Looks like it is going to work.

…..and I wanna kick David Letterman in his marblebag too…..

hey obama supporters!! here’s a novel idea- put the bongG down and EARN THE WEALTH AROUND!

Obamas tax plan is going to hurt the middle class in the long term. Thats the democrat master plan. Put evryone on welfare. Take thier guns. Regulate all business. Ration all food supplies so all of Africa will be fed. Hand our helath insurance and education system over to the government and thier special interests. When you vote for obama youre also voting for Pelosi and Reid. The house dems have already planned for bills to be passed the day Obama takes office. Why the rush? Since when has congress rushed to do anything? They have a 10% approval rating. The 700 billion dollar bailout was only passed by congress after they were able to add 260 more goodies to the bill. It was extortion of the nation by congress, from both sides of the aisle. But the Dems control the house. If they win the white house they will have all 3 branches of our government under thier direct control. Control is what the democrats are all about. Guns, food, drugs, housing, welfare…All tools used by dems to control the masses. The problem in thier plan are rich people who dont need the government. Its not in the democrats best interests to see us all get rich and be a success. Its why they kept welfare alive all this time. You know why they want abortion to stay legal? Less people means less mouths to feed. The same prinicple china and north korea use to run thier respective countries. If you take north korea and the democrats and put them side by side, there isnt much difference in the 2.

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Blacks kill White Obama Campaigner, Shot To The Head

http://www.newsnet14.com/2008/10/blacks-kill-white-obama-campaigner-shot-to-the-head/

Aw, hell! Why don’t we all quit working and let the government support us. When the money runs out, keep borrowing from China to keep us going.

Feds and Rezko Piecing together Ayers, Giannoulias, Obama

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/our-columns/rezko-piecing-together-ayers-giannoulias-obama%2C1866/

As Rezko starts to sing… Barack Obama might be days away from an indictment…

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/10/as-rezko-starts-to-sing-obama-might-be-one-note-away/

Sorry to disappoint Madge Owens, but I am a strong registered libertarian. DO NOT INSULT ME WITH YOUR BLITHERING LACK OF READING COMPREHENSION! Go back to sandbox for a re-education.

Anti-Palin T-shirt creator.

These t-shirts were (are) sold by Crucial Brutal in Philadelphia. They are still being sold through Pay-Pal.

Website link:

http://www.crucialbrutal.com

Designer and printer is a Jeffrey “Ralph” Stollenwerk but he goes by Ralph Stollenwerk. He also goes by the nicknames El Neutron or Pink Bike Ralph.

Website link:

http://www.myspace.com/pinkbikeralph

Besides being part “owner” of Crucial Brutal he is also part owner of Awesome Dudes Printing in Philadelphia:

Website link:

http://www.awesomedudesprinting.com

I invite the press and media to follow up on this information.

Rebecca in Seattle: No you can’t move into you neighbor’s mansion. LOL

Please do not change the wonderful character and responsibility building traits you are instilling into your children. You seem to be an excellent parent who wants more for her children than the socialism of uselessness. Hang in there. Remember there are at least 50% of Americans who believe as you do.

WOW!!!! ok well he said it folks, there it is for all the world to hear….I tell you what, if elected, he sure did up the Ante on his chances for becoming the next president to find himself in the sites of a rifle scope! doh! teehee…did i just say that…must be a “Freudian” slip…silly gaffe…

….And that, in a nutshell, is why I cannot in good conscience, vote for Obama. I do not want him, or anyone else to spread the wealth around. All I want from the government is a level playing field so I can make a living and support my family and perhaps have enough leftover to support the charities I choose. What goes through the minds of people like him? Who the heck is he to decide which person has enough and which person has too much? For the record, I am in the middle class. I’m not rich but I won’t starve if I lose my job tomorrow. I would, however lose my house if I were to be unemployed for a long time though.

If you want to bring this country back, start by penalizing those that take their operations overseas. Don’t tax the heck out of companies that are successful simply because you can. They are the ones that provide jobs.
And yes, everyone has the right to healthcare. But they don’t have a right to free healthcare. That is a benefit to be negotiated with a prospective employer. Every country that has socialized medicine has people on a waiting list and many die before their names come up or else the government decides they are too old or too far gone, or some other lame excuse. IT IS NOT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DECIDE THINGS LIKE THIS.

I can’t believe that this great country has so many wimps and so many people that think these things he proposes are good for us.

Obama’s tax plan, taken direclty off his web site
(link = http://www.barackobama.com/taxes/ ) is:

* Cut taxes for 95 percent of workers and their families with a tax cut of $500 for workers or $1,000 for working couples.

* Provide generous tax cuts for low- and middle-income seniors, homeowners, the uninsured, and families sending a child to college or looking to save and accumulate wealth.

* Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States, and provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward investments in innovation.

* Dramatically simplify taxes by consolidating existing tax credits, eliminating the need for millions of senior citizens to file tax forms, and enabling as many as 40 million middle-class Americans to do their own taxes in less than five minutes without an accountant.

Self-righteous liberals:
Anyone who has volunteered to serve in a soup kitchen knows that the homeless and poor are not starving. They pan-handle to get money for drugs and alcohol. And I will never be made to feel guilty for placing the well-being of my own family above the alcoholic old lady living out of a shopping cart and the drug abusers dumpster diving behind McDonalds. And, yes, of course I feel compassion for the newly homeless, especially the children. And, yes, of course I feel compassion for the mentally ill sent adrift. And, yes, that is why I tithe and donate to the Salvation Army. And, yes, that is why I want you to keep your hands out of my purse.

Where did Acorn get the money? We tax payers paid them to cheat us out of our election.

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* Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses

THIS … is absolute IDIOTIC RUBBISH BY OBAMA! Small businesses generally do not pay capital gains taxes in the first place! If a small business is reporting a CAPITAL gain then it would typically mean that they are .. GETTING SMALLER BECAUSE THEY SOLD OFF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AT A PROFIT!!!!

And why would there be such a profit selling off a CAPITAL investment? … because it was DEPRECIATED on the books for many years! I buy a machine for $50K, I depreciate it’s value down to zero over 15 years and then sell it for $15K. Okay Barry, I technically made a $15K profit on that sale and you are going to cut the amount of tax on that CAPITAL GAIN.

Hello Barry? I am out of a machine! Why am I not taking that $15K, adding say another $50K and BUYING A NEW ONE? If I do that my CAPITAL GAIN is zeroed out because I RE-INVESTED IT into a capital asset and the depreciation cycle begins again!

Companies DO NOT PAY TAXES ON THEIR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS!!!!!

Barry is an IDIOT WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND BASIC BUSINESS ECONOMICS AND THE TAX CODE!!!

Attention hillbilly’s:
Your taxes are going up regardless of who gets elected, who do you think that 700 billion is coming from?

You can thank Bush snr/jr for that one.

Vote McSame/Failin’ for 4 more years, or Obama for change

[..who do you think that 700 billion is coming from?]

No.. you can thank big spender Bush and ALL of his liberal cronies for shoving big government down our throats. CONSERVATIVES VOTED AGAINST IT!!!! (Bush is NOT a conservative) Palin and McCain understand the economic FACT – bigger government is BAD for America and and DECREASES prosperity.

McCain wants REAL tax cuts and REAL spending cuts. Obama wants to DOUBLE the national debt including handing a ‘tax cut’ check to people who pay ZERO taxes! (That’s called… WELFARE!)

“Ben”: incredible youtube link. What an example of the bigotry and ignorance of voters. Funny, I thought it was only the “whities” that were bigots. When I listened to Rev. Wright’s rants against the “whities” that are controlling America, I couldn’t help but wonder what the media would have done had it been a white church that claimed that the “darkies” were keeping America down. The pendulum of what is racially acceptable has stopped at the other extreme. Martin Luther King would be sick that much of his legacy has been reduced to voters such as these, and a candidate that feeds very well on this apathy and some misplaced white guilt.

Mike M:
I wouldn’t worry about labelling people, so much as getting your facts right:

Palin is an airhead who understands NOTHING AT ALL. You should be more worried about someone like that getting into power than ANYTHING ELSE!

McSame wants to keep spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to occupy another country! Nice savings plan

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Look 40% of the mindless sheep are voting for BO the Stinking Liar. 60% of True Americans will vote for McCain/Palin. Then all we will have to listen to is the whining when the mindless start to play their non-existant race card. How can anyone vote for a person who would say it is OK for their daughter to have an abortion because he doesn’t want them to have to live with their mistake. BO you dumb ass, guess what you are, yep your a mistake that got a chance. Oh yeah the current polls what a partisan joke, Nov. 5 will confirm NO BO!

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re exotic, different.”

* If you grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, you’re a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you
don’t have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a
Christian.

* If you teach children about sexual predators, you are irresponsible and eroding the fiber of society.

* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your
unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.

* If your husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that hates America and advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is
extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

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McCain/Palin 60% – BO/Biden 40% Prepare to live with it!

[...] News cameras were there and captured the conversation (which is now all over the Web) between a self-employed plumber named Joe Wurzelbacher and [...]

You don’t know how lucky you are, to be living in the USSA! Lol, remix on the old Beatles song.

United States of Socialist America. That has a terrible sound to it. It actually sounds like an obamanation, I mean abomination.

I think I am going to keep the extra S out of USA and vote McCain.

“From each according to their ability; to each according to their need” ……….. Karl Marx

Obama 08,
I wouldn’t worry about [sic]labelling people…Palin is an airhead. Awesome, simply awesome.

If the plan is for the government to SEIZE PRIVATE PROPERTY & INCOME and “SPREAD IT AROUND” then maybe American Citizens should plan on removing the commie politicians by FORCE!

Obamunism at its finest.

What happens when the plumber is taxed out of business? No problem…someone else’s wealth will be spread on to you!

Thank you Mr. Barak

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Yes, and the people behind him are the ones he will lay off when he gets his higher tax bill. Why doesn’t our general population understand what every business owner understands: the quickest, most effective way to cut expenses is to cut payroll. The more taxes that you force the busines owner to pay, the more he/she will have to cut payroll to meet them.
Econ 101, Barack.
Oh yeah, he’s into Socialism 101.

who’s ‘wealth’ is obama talking about? Did he work the 15 – 20 hour days for years to earn ‘the wealth’. Translation: I am going to take what you worked your *** off for (wealth)and give it someone who is sitting on thier fat ass….. and to what purpose? “so that they can have the same chance at success” ….. bull****!!! they want the same chance at sucess then let them go out and work to earn thier own ‘wealth’.

Hey Non-Texan…just an excerpt of your rant…

** If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters… **

How many new voters did he really register…and how many times were they registered?

Conversely, Barack, give the guy a tax cut, allow him to hire another plumber and expand his business, and there you go, you have another worker to pay taxes, and a larger business, paying additional taxes to your coffers.
Geez. What don’t you get? I can’t stand it.

Caught a few minutes of Good Morning America this morning. They played this clip. Somehow the redistribution of wealth comment, which is the most newsworthy point of the exchanged, was conveniently left on the cutting room floor.

if the guy makes more than 250,000 a year he hasnt been paying his fair share these past eight years , we have class war fare now and the middle class is losing big time , pay your fair share whiner , i guess you want your kids to pay for your excesses , where else in the world can you make that kind of money , china , go ahead and move there be my guest , tax cut and spend and the worst record on job creation since the great depression , the doofus manchild and the republitards the proof is in the pudding and the pudding is poison (made in china)

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Obama will win this election and the Democrats will win super majorities in both houses. A mild form of Socialism will be enacted and eventually a one world order will emerge. We will lose our sovereignty and way of life that so many before us have sacrificed for. If Obama and his cronies did not pay off and rig the election “properly” and McCain wins then the inevitable will occur next election cycle. Our great Democratic experiment is slowly fading into an unrecognizable way of life. If I could, I’d move, but it is not practical, and eventually this movement will infest the rest of the world anyways.

CHANGE! What you will have left if Obama becomes president.

HOPE! The only thing you will have left after Obama distributes to others what you worked hard to achieve for yourself.

The Candy Man can, cause he mixes it with love and makes the world feel good! Oh Yeah, The One will paint a rainbow and promise Pie in the Sky. Change they need, change they want, but its your change they are talking about.

No Kam “I” and others like me paid for those roads, not the impoverished, i paid taxes just the same as everyone else so if anyone should be barred from the roads it should be exactly the impoverished that dont pay taxes. Im simply using YOUR logic. Im not that heartless but my parents taxes and my taxes pay for those roads that i pay into every year in gas tax, vehicle registration tax, vehicle tax, and tolls.

If Obama wants the spread the wealth so badly he needs to send me a little bit of money i need a new car real bad my family is down to one to get my wife and i both to work and our kids to school. Its tough but we do it too bad so many other people cant figure out how to work with less they need the govt to give them more money. Sorry but those without jobs or desire to have jobs are not my responsibility and i especially dont want them to be. If Obama wins i might just quit my job and go on welfare at that point cause it will surely be pretty lucrative then. Probably live better than i do now.

Sing for Obama, our great leader and Messiah! It won’t be long before the statues, billboards, and the Orwellian Obama TV Network are put in place. Obama is more dangerous than any external threats, we will destroy ourselves from within. Obama, “I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it’s Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer DEEDS,” he said.

You can gain a accurate insight into the true Obama psyche by taking a closer look at the less guarded Michelle Obama. The characteristically angry, “Hate America”, Michelle Obama experienced a Hollywood makeover for her DNC convention speech that will beguile the “willing dupes” in the electorate. You could almost see her gag when she had to recite Obama’s handler’s line about “loving her country.” But, her previous well-publicized radical associations; and, her multiple attempts to trash our Nation, will betray her scripted persona. It was a foregone conclusion that the Obama handlers would have Michelle with a smile-cast to cover-up her normally angry countenance, and chain-locked to the teleprompter with their carefully scripted commentary so as to obscure the prospective 1st lady’s deeply angry disposition towards America. What a tragic example for our children; what a disastrous blow to societal cohesion at home; what a disconcerting message to our friends and allies; and, what a comforting message to our fanatical opponents abroad; to see a woman who has expressed her beliefs that: “our souls are broken in this nation”; “blacks must join in solidarity to combat a white oppressor”; “America is a nation that was founded on crime and hatred”; “we’re a country that is just downright mean.”; “We’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.”; “America is guided by fear, and getting worse all the time.”; and, laments that she will face, “further integration and/or assimilation into a white culture and social structure”; to have a potential opportunity to secure the White House itself as the platform for her hate-filled dictum. And, of note to practicing Christians in our society, is Michelle’s pledge that: “Barack will be tireless in keeping legal the practice of partial birth abortions”. All of this from a woman who has benefited enormously from affirmative actions which she conveniently neglected to mention in the convention speech! Along with her husband’s long-term subversive associations, his immersion in seditious anti-American diatribe; and, his recent proclamation: “I don’t want that (referring to America in its current form) for my little girls.”, has indeed revealed the Obamas as the real-life Manchurian Couple; and, certainly explains Obama’s proclamation: “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded as the military.” The program that Obama has referred to is “Public Allies”, of which Michelle is the Executive Director of the Chicago Chapter; and, which consists of government-funded reeducation camps where Amercan youth are brainwashed into thinking “America is a racist, oppressive place in need of social change.” Greg Neubeck

When I went to school, his plan was called socialism.

This is nothing new. Everyone knows Obama is a socialist. Socialism doesn’t work. The more you tax the rich and business owners it will just trickle down to the consumer or it will drive business out of this country which is far worse. Look at the state of Michigan and other parts of the rust belt. Democrats destroyed the economy in that section of the country. You only have had to taken ECON 101 know this and it makes perfect sense. Rich people always figure out ways to displace losses due to cost increases. Unfortunately the average American will not take the time to investigate this. Thank God the polls are always wrong. Obama is a horrible choice for president. As much as I hated Hillary she I wish she was running instead of him. McCain is by far the lesser of two evils.

I’m welling up with tears because this man, Barry Uh-Bama, is so generous and giving that he’s willing to take all the money he can from people who work and contribute and give it to people who don’t work and demand only to take. That’s justice, my friends.

It is amazing that the color of someone’s skin shows they are sup par. Especially when they come from all of the colors that are fighting. Constitutionally, America is far from when it was intended to be. There is NO Black signature on the declaration or anything giving credit to the founding of this nation. The fact is that too much of America’s wealth is controlled by other nations. Global banking is Great and its wonderful when things are going well, but when things fall apart… who never takes ownership?

“During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacence to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage

Professor Joseph Olsen of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 presidential election:”

I am inclined to believe that neither candidate understands what should be believed to be the Lifecycle of Nations. In as much, there needs to be an understanding of the Lifecycle of a business. I am not a business professor nor do I claim to be an economist, but the fact is that the business that survives the lifecycle is the business that flourishes. It is also fact that everyone that is in this nation did not start with a fair chance. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a self loathing liar. If you have a gun pointed at your head and told to pick cotton are you gonna pick cotton or are you gonna get shot? That’s how the land was formed and that is how it is today! If you wanna meet your basic needs… you gotta VOTE. Otherwise we gonna tax your land, we gonna take your crops… we gonna make every one on American soil do what we thing should be done. Piss test welfare applicants… that will save the nation a lot of money… one less mooching fiend. I cant go to vacation in Amsterdam and stop by the red-light district and then come home with any THC in my blood cuz I have to go to work and provide for the elderly and the poor… Hell when my mother was sick with breast cancer and getting denied treatments and care… all that i put in to Social Security and all that I put in to Medicaid… me and my brother and my 2 sisters could have paid the bills. BUT that’s not the way the government works… we take care of who we take care of not who is important to YOU!

If I make 50k a year and I am single with no kids, I make too much to get help and I don’t make enough to survive and be a home owner.

So this poor guy is seen as wealthy in Mr.Obama’s eyes. Don’t people know, that no matter what your take home pay is, your self employed status puts you automatically at a 30% tax rate. The poor plumber takes all the risk, not only does he have to compete with throat cutters in this field he now may have to contend to the likes of Obama who considers him rich. I’ll say he’ll close shop in a year and let someone take the risk and the bull. Get a gov’t job before it’s too late.

A 9th grader could have said this…”spreading the wealth around”….when are americans
going to wake up & smell the coffee about
this commie Obambi?
all he’s telling us is-”bend over”…(’nuff said)
I think you get my point.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Socialist States of AmeriKKKa,
and to the Banana Republic for whatever is left standing:
One Nation, Two Standards, under our New Messiah and his Audacity of
false hope and shattered dreams of a past Liberty
and Justice for some of you and all my Homies.

Obama is a Marxist in a black wrapper. . . . wake up Amerika!

[...] News cameras were there and captured the conversation (which is now all over the Web) between a self-employed plumber named Joe Wurzelbacher and [...]

Hold your nose if you must… but if you love America and freedom, vote for McCain.

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Democrats suck and Republicans are evil… some choice.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Socialist States
of God Damn AmeriKKKa!!!!
And to the Banana Republic for whatever is left standing:
One Nation, Two Standards, under our New Messiah and his Audacity of
False hope and Shattered Dreams of a past Liberty
and Justice for some of you and all my Homies.

Thank God that most of the republicans have guns. We may end up having to use that firepower to save our country and the constitution.

Republicans coming over to Obama, Two Conservatives say what everyone with any self honesty would admit

The Nation — This is how bad it has gotten for John McCain.

Even the defenders of the Iraq War are deserting the Republican nominee who once thought he might “surge” into the Oval Office.

Yes, he has lost the Christophers.

In recent days, he has lost both Christopher Buckley and, now, Christopher Hitchens. Both have announced their plans to vote for man who opposed launching the Iraq War: Democrat Barack Obama.

First, Buckley, the apple-did-not-fall-from-the-tree son of William F., writes a column titled, “Sorry, Dad, I’m Voting for Obama,” in which he writes:

I have known John McCain personally since 1982. I wrote a well-received speech for him. Earlier this year, I wrote in The New York Times–I’m beginning to sound like Paul Krugman, who cannot begin a column without saying, “As I warned the world in my last column…” — a highly favorable Op-Ed about McCain, taking Rush Limbaugh and the others in the Right Wing Sanhedrin to task for going after McCain for being insufficiently conservative. I don’t–still–doubt that McCain’s instincts remain fundamentally conservative. But the problem is otherwise.

McCain rose to power on his personality and biography. He was authentic. He spoke truth to power. He told the media they were “jerks” (a sure sign of authenticity, to say nothing of good taste; we are jerks). He was real. He was unconventional. He embraced former anti-war leaders. He brought resolution to the awful missing-POW business. He brought about normalization with Vietnam–his former torturers! Yes, he erred in accepting plane rides and vacations from Charles Keating, but then, having been cleared on technicalities, groveled in apology before the nation. He told me across a lunch table, “The Keating business was much worse than my five and a half years in Hanoi, because I at least walked away from that with my honor.” Your heart went out to the guy. I thought at the time, God, this guy should be president someday.

A year ago, when everyone, including the man I’m about to endorse, was caterwauling to get out of Iraq on the next available flight, John McCain, practically alone, said no, no–bad move. Surge. It seemed a suicidal position to take, an act of political bravery of the kind you don’t see a whole lot of anymore.

But that was–sigh–then. John McCain has changed. He said, famously, apropos the Republican debacle post-1994, “We came to Washington to change it, and Washington changed us.” This campaign has changed John McCain. It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget “by the end of my first term.” Who, really, believes that? Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis. His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?

Then, Christopher Hitchens, erstwhile former Nation columnist turned Iraq warrior, writes a column headlined: “Vote for Obama: McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace.”

Like Buckley, Hitchens is embarrassed by McCain as a candidate and as the man who has attempted to put Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from the presidency:

Hitch argues deliciously that:

McCain occasionally remembers to stress matters like honor and to disown innuendoes and slanders, but this only makes him look both more senile and more cynical, since it cannot (can it?) be other than his wish and design that he has engaged a deputy who does the innuendoes and slanders for him.

I suppose it could be said, as Michael Gerson has alleged, that the Obama campaign’s choice of the word erratic to describe McCain is also an insinuation. But really, it’s only a euphemism. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear had to feel sorry for the old lion on his last outing and wish that he could be taken somewhere soothing and restful before the night was out. The train-wreck sentences, the whistlings in the pipes, the alarming and bewildered handhold phrases–”My friends”–to get him through the next 10 seconds. I haven’t felt such pity for anyone since the late Adm. James Stockdale humiliated himself as Ross Perot’s running mate. And I am sorry to have to say it, but Stockdale had also distinguished himself in America’s most disastrous and shameful war, and it didn’t qualify him then and it doesn’t qualify McCain now.

The most insulting thing that a politician can do is to compel you to ask yourself: “What does he take me for?” Precisely this question is provoked by the selection of Gov. Sarah Palin. I wrote not long ago that it was not right to condescend to her just because of her provincial roots or her piety, let alone her slight flirtatiousness, but really her conduct since then has been a national disgrace. It turns out that none of her early claims to political courage was founded in fact, and it further turns out that some of the untested rumors about her–her vindictiveness in local quarrels, her bizarre religious and political affiliations–were very well-founded, indeed. Moreover, given the nasty and lowly task of stirring up the whack-job fringe of the party’s right wing and of recycling patent falsehoods about Obama’s position on Afghanistan, she has drawn upon the only talent that she apparently possesses.

It therefore seems to me that the Republican Party has invited not just defeat but discredit this year, and that both its nominees for the highest offices in the land should be decisively repudiated, along with any senators, congressmen, and governors who endorse them.

These are important statements, especially as expressions of concern about McCain’s dwindling capacity and their dismissals of Palin.

They form the intellectual underpinnings for a rational rejection of the Republican ticket by mainstream Republicans and independents–and with it the prospect (though not the certainty) of an Obama victory sufficient to allow him to actually govern.

Buckley actually provides the language for those who may not ever be Obama enthusiasts, but who may be Obama voters:

“Obama has in him — I think, despite his sometimes airy-fairy “We are the people we have been waiting for” silly rhetoric — the potential to be a good, perhaps even great leader. He is, it seems clear enough, what the historical moment seems to be calling for.

“So, I wish him all the best. We are all in this together. Necessity is the mother of bipartisanship. And so, for the first time in my life, I’ll be pulling the Democratic lever in November. As the saying goes, God save the United States of America.”

GO Obama!