Students Protest School Library’s Rejection of Christian Books on Homosexuality

"We collected reviews for all of the books, multiple reviews, presented them to the librarian, and honestly, she didn't even look at them."

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October 4, 2008 at 2:42 pm - WRC-TV
Dateline: Springfield, VA
david blough, sr   October 4th, 2008 - 2:59 pm

This is just like the public school system at large that only presents the view point of evolution. This is corporate ignorance —which is like a Salem witch hunt.!!!

keep fighting for the balanced view. don’t allow the ignorance to prevail that we came from amoebas and that we have to listen only to our fearless Libriaians.

Mary   October 4th, 2008 - 3:18 pm

This is all part of the socialism that Hussein Obama speaks of. Only books that meet the requirements of the “NEW” Democratic Socialist Party will be accepted. The news media was all over Palin, when they accused her (wrongfully I might add) of doing the same thing at the library in Alaska. This is how it started with Hitler….Wake up people. The public school system has already been socialized…that’s why it’s so bad…There’s no checks and balances for good or bad teachers…nothing. There’s no checks or balances for government…and this is what youcan lkook forward to with Obama’s healthcare proposal..Do me a favor and ask someone, who is on Medicaid or Medicare, what it’s like?

Keep Homosexuality OUT, PERIOD   October 4th, 2008 - 3:29 pm

How about we KEEP HOMOSEXUALITY OUT of the schools entirely?!??!

WHY on earth are any schools PERMITTING (or pushing) the “teaching” (or even discussion) of HOMOSEXUALITY? Schools should be teaching basic ed courses and SEX EDUCATION, which means discussing *what happens when a female & a male MATE*!

THAT should be the extent of it.

Americans should protest and put a stop to this “recruiting” or “proselytizing” of the GAY LIFE in our public schools.

PERIOD. No ifs, ands, or BUTTS!!!
(LOL)

Keep Hom osexuality OUT, PERIOD   October 4th, 2008 - 3:32 pm

WHY on earth are any schools PERMITTING (or pushing) the “teaching” (or even discussion) of HOM OSEXUALITY? Schools should be teaching basic ed courses including SEX EDUCATION, which means discussing *what happens when a female & a male MATE*! THAT should be the extent of it.

Americans should protest and put a stop to any and all “proselytizing” of the GAY LIFE in our public schools.

PERIOD. No ifs, ands, or Bu++s!!!

Hom osexuality... TEST   October 4th, 2008 - 3:41 pm

TEST…

Hom osexuality.

Once again, Breitfart requires endless tries and doctoring of spelling of words it deems “too sensitive” for its audience to type or read on its blogs… EVEN THOUGH BREITBART USES THOSE WORDS in its own headlines and captions?!

WHEN is Breitfart ever going to present a FAQ PAGE on this site that advises users of WHICH WORDS are “NOT APPROPRIATE” and what RULES are being broken when our repeated attempts to post keep failing? You should also include a summary of BROWSER REQUIREMENTS that must be met in order to post. Sometimes it seems pages REQUIRE Javascript and other times, not. WHY is this site so flaky in this regard? And WHICH BROWSERS will work here and which won’t? Not everyone is using I-E, you know! (Or maybe you don’t know… You or whoever runs this site seems to be pretty DIM about how things work–including how frustrating your end-user is DETRIMENTAL to your entire raison d’etre!)

Users should NOT have to keep trying for dozens of times to express their thoughts and feelings, and keep revising their wording, until your stinkin system finally relents and posts the damned message!

WHAT THE he11 is the matter with you, Breitfart?! You seem to be a SADIST who just enjoys tormenting people who visit your site and wish to respond to your provocative BS articles.

That is just plain SICK!

And yes, it does seem that the “problem word” in this post was hom osexuality. What ASSININE JERKS!!

Robin   October 4th, 2008 - 3:52 pm

Hom osexuality…Test, it is like that on most blogs. I agree that some of it is stupid and as shown by your ingenuity, idiots can find a way around censors when they feel the absolute need to be foul.

peter c   October 4th, 2008 - 4:03 pm

If you see that this librarian is an Anti-Christian Liberal owed by the NET and Dem Party….then you should know that OBAMA declared recently that America is NOT a Christian country. He said it’s Hindu,Muslim etc…But the truth is that those religions are only 2% of America.It’s still 78% Christian. He is like the Anti-Christ as are all who support and work for him.
Vote McCain-Palin if you want to save our Christian values before they not only ban books…but they start arresting and killing Christians as it is in The Bible’s “Revelations”.

Jill   October 4th, 2008 - 4:12 pm

Political correctness the last thirty years is destroying this country! This is what communists do when they take over power in a country.

Vote for Obama at your country’s peril! He is a complete and dedicated Marxist.

L. C.   October 4th, 2008 - 4:21 pm

I am not surprised. At our local library in the CHILDRENS section I found on display PROMINENTLY Chairman Mao: From Farmer to World Leader
Great Women In Politics: NANCY PELOSI

I couldn’t find one book on Ronald Reagan on Display.

Jason   October 4th, 2008 - 4:27 pm

See what we have to say about it here:
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff

The chickens will come home to roost as soon as people get fed up with this junk. Better act soon though.

Helen   October 4th, 2008 - 4:31 pm

Instead of finding fault with the spelling of HOMO
sexuality, as a jackass you might consider the subject at hand. This forum is NOT A SPELLING contest!If you are a HOMO sexual, declare yourself and write in your opinion.Your position is atypical of the liberal left,lacking ideas and solutions,you simply attack and destroy.IF YOU WANT TOTAL DEVESTATION,vote for barry HUSSEIN nobama. GOD BLESS ALL OF US THAT ACT LIKE AMERICANS! AMEN

FEDERICK   October 4th, 2008 - 4:47 pm

The AMERICANS that are protesting the rejection of the books offered free to the high school librarys, are not using the right approach.The old adage ‘you can’t fight city hall’ applies. If the ‘divide and conquer’ route were applied,victory would be forthcoming!! Since your resources are limited,pick the opposition off, one at a time.You must be vigilant,with an operational plan, PLAN,ORGANIZE,EXECUTE= VICTORY.
GOOD LUCK,GOD BLESS.

Larry Craig   October 4th, 2008 - 5:27 pm

Meet me in the Men’s room near Gate 8.

AlexH   October 4th, 2008 - 5:56 pm

Funny how they want to donate books to a school, even when they themselves have not read those books.

What a bunch of dummies!

Catherine   October 4th, 2008 - 6:44 pm

Not “age appropriate” is an outright lie. Anyone can go to the school “media center” (as it is usually now called) and you will be shocked at how many books are adult and are not age appropriate to their son or daughters level. 5th grade – 8th grade middle schools have available The DaVinci Code (antiChristian and has group se x in it with a referral to Eyes Wide Shut)and Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles (very graphic read). So clearly that is not the issue. It is the fact that they do not want the “Agenda” to disrupted in anyway. One word people: homeschool

MAGgIEPOO   October 4th, 2008 - 6:53 pm

No books should be banned. That discretion should be left up to the parents as to what their children read. Oh..but wait…won’t that be the way it will be if Obama gets in. What doctors you will be able see. What public schools your children have to go to…What books all of us can read…How much you’ll be able to spend on a car or mortgage, you can’t spank your children, teachers have absolutely no authority over your kids. We won’t have to salute the flag or say the the pledge of allegiance..God will be taken out of schools and not be allowed in any context or government building associated with our country. People like Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank will be hailed as our new heros and roll models…..Greed will be the norm…every one for themselves. Hell, go ahead and give me my gray uniform with that stupid slogan on it, like Obama has on his plane.

lazurm   October 4th, 2008 - 6:58 pm

I notice that, as usual, those commenting here are as typically overboard in their emotional displays as they are in their ignorance in their spreading of false rumor, extreme exageration and wholesale lies, not to mention their unending ability to draw connections where none exist.

Public schools, being publicly funded, often interpret court decisions and constitutional issues in ways that impart extreme safety and overly careful policy. As such and as a result of court decisions and legal interpretations, public school officials create written policies involving inclusions and exclusions. They do this to avoid legal expense (though not always successfully), avoid parental anger (ditto on how successful they are here too) and appearances of illegal bias.

So therefore you’ll have things like religious interpretations of social and natural issues carefully deliniated and legal or scientifically derived interpretations of these same issues given increased weight. This is done because of court rulings on separation of church and state, something that is interpreted as it is to avoid the appearance of a state sponsored religion, a problem our country’s founders understood very well.

In the battle between censorship and separation of state and religion decisions must sometimes be made, in individual circumstances, between the two in terms of what is the best choice in the interest of the public. The school chose what they chose.

This has nothing to do with Obama (who is an attorney and would heartedly be on the side of the constitution), liberals, naziism, socialism or any of the distractions the demagogues and finger pointers here scream about at the top of their idiotic lungs. They chose, not the issue at hand, but to espouse their biased view using whatever news comes to the fore, twisting it and turning it into anything but what it is: in this example, another case between censorship, separation of church and state, and the public good.

I believe the preponderant court decisions to be right and, though it would be nice to include everything in our school’s libraries, I understand why deliniations are made. Remember, these days any subject may be researched in alternative locations, easily.

smegolicious   October 4th, 2008 - 7:03 pm

They know god damn well what the bible says, to murder gays. This is about as close to attempted murder as you can legally get.

Every kid should be expelled, their church closed and parents on trial for child abuse.

What a religious pathetic country this is turning out to be…

censorship blows!   October 4th, 2008 - 7:24 pm

c’mon folks, if you want to judge religious psychos pick islamic fascists. How weak.

Thanks for “defending” us against evil christians while coddling terrorist criminals. Sheesh.

RogerCfromSD   October 4th, 2008 - 7:49 pm

There should be no books at all on homosexuality, then. None.If differing views are not allowed, eliminate the subject altogether.

That seems to be the liberal tack, anyway, with certain subjects.

Of course, that’ll only dumb down the library.

RogerCfromSD   October 4th, 2008 - 7:52 pm

smegolicious, that is an extremely ignorant comment. “Murder gays?” Where in the New Testament does it command us to do so?

Which passages in The Bible are these?

Your name suits you.

WW Terry   October 4th, 2008 - 8:22 pm

Have you ever wondered why the increase in homosexuals? Vegans and others drink soy milk and eat soy products. Drinking soy milk while pregnate can adversely affect your unborn child. The estrogen (female hormone) in soy products can make a male child feminine and can also deform their genitila. The female child reaches puberty real early (in some cases as early as 18 months of age). Using soy products by men can adversily affect them also. While an excess of soy in women can bring about a less than friendly person. 50 years ago soy was used only for feed. In Asia they process it differntly. But here we end up with a bunch of boys who like and use a pacifier way too long. Look it up. It’s factual. Caio! WWTerry

N O Waff   October 4th, 2008 - 9:18 pm

=== LIBRARIAN HYPOCRACY ===
Librariens fight against banning books that promote the liberal agenda but show their hypocracy by banning Christian or conservative topics.

jandj   October 4th, 2008 - 9:24 pm

im not gonna vote for obama and if they make my kids try to make my kids have an obama day or wear his button ill pull them out and sue the school look at those kids singing that song with his shirt on they all look like the children of the corn remember that movie

Nick from Indiana   October 4th, 2008 - 10:18 pm

We dont want books on homasexuality in the schools in the liberies or in the bookshoppe’s, we don’t want books on muslimism, communism, socialism, liberalism, eliteism, futurism, pointilism or any of the isms there either. WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN, IF WE DON’T PROTECTCT THEM, THEY WILL GROW UP TWISTED AND BROKEN JUST LIKE OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

tHE SOCALLED DEPARTMENT OF EDCUATION SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, GET POLITICS OUT OF SCHOOLS, JUST TEACTH THE TRUTH, WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT??

kaye wright   October 4th, 2008 - 10:28 pm

Funny, this is when we celebrate the banned books.

I think we all know that if they were Muslim books there would be NO problem with the books.

Tom Foolery   October 4th, 2008 - 10:47 pm

AMERICA! Your country is being HIJACKED by HOMOSEXUAL SODOMITES, SATANISTS, and OCCULTISTS!

AMERICA – MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT! REPENT!

fancy spelosi   October 4th, 2008 - 11:13 pm

Read the pink swaztika an incredible tail of nazi germany and the rampant homosexual community in government at the time, censoring the country towards fascism….any books banning alternative perspectives towards how to live ones life is fascism a disgusting disease that must be expunged across generations. otherwise this is how LIBERTY dies…with thunderous applause.

fresca   October 4th, 2008 - 11:24 pm

ah, we see who the real book burners are. then they turn around and call christians book burners. Hipocrits.

Benificent   October 4th, 2008 - 11:28 pm

I don’t see why schools should reject an extreme position. They ONLY support extremist, narrow views to begin with. The schools are like little Commie Camps. Of course they can’t tolerate a different opinion than the ones they indoctrinate kids with.

Reading for COMPREHENSION   October 4th, 2008 - 11:38 pm

Jeez, it is downright SCARY how stupid some of the posters are who frequent and post on this site!

Several above posts were aggravated by the way Breitbarf keeps CENSORING postings and by the necessity to keep altering one’s post and removing word after word, before the post is accepted… So here’s a response from one of the brain-dead posters:

“Instead of finding fault with the spelling of HOMO sexuality, as a jackass you might consider the subject at hand. This forum is NOT A SPELLING contest!If you are a HOMO sexual, declare yourself and write in your opinion.”

Talk about TOTAL FAILURE TO COMPREHEND! Did this person ever learn to READ FOR COMPREHENSION? Probably not.

The original post (that sparked the complaints about Censorship on Breitbart)was trying to say that there should not be ANY discussion of homosexuality–pro or con–in the schools. Neither proselytizing nor condemning. It is INAPPROPRIATE to be “teaching” ANYthing about homosexuality in schools, especially lower grades! Instead, the schools should be teaching basic education plus SEX EDUCATION, meaning what happens when MALES and FEMALES mate. (Doing so might help avoid a lot of social ills, a la Bristol Palin…and Levi…)

How anybody could fail to comprehend those postings is a true mystery.

Reading for COMPREHENSION   October 4th, 2008 - 11:39 pm

Jeez, it is downright SCARY how stupid some of the posters are who frequent and post on this site!

Several above posts were aggravated by the way Breitbarf keeps CENSORING postings and by the necessity to keep altering one’s post and removing word after word, before the post is accepted… So here’s a response from one of the brain-dead posters:

“Instead of finding fault with the spelling of HOM O sexuality, as a jackass you might consider the subject at hand. This forum is NOT A SPELLING contest!If you are a HOM O sexual, declare yourself and write in your opinion.”

Talk about TOTAL FAILURE TO COMPREHEND! Did this person ever learn to READ FOR COMPREHENSION? Probably not.

The original post (that sparked the complaints about Censorship on Breitbart)was trying to say that there should not be ANY discussion of hom osexuality–pro or con–in the schools. Neither proselytizing nor condemning. It is INAPPROPRIATE to be “teaching” ANYthing about hom osexuality in schools, especially lower grades! Instead, the schools should be teaching basic education plus SEX EDUCATION, meaning what happens when MALES and FEMALES mate. (Doing so might help avoid a lot of social ills, a la Bristol Palin…and Levi…)

How anybody could fail to comprehend those postings is a true mystery.

Bawney Fwank   October 4th, 2008 - 11:53 pm

Wast time I wooked at a cwistian book was da Gideon’s Bible in da hotel woom were my wover was packing my chute all night wong.

I half expected Wocky Waccoon to come out fwom unda da bed.

Huh-huh-huh-huh-huh.

Tt Robin and Breitbarf   October 5th, 2008 - 12:07 am

Robin posted: “idiots can find a way around censors when they feel the absolute need to be foul.”

In what way is typing the word hom osexuality “being foul”?!, especially when it was IN THE HEADLINE of this article!!

Looks like Breitbart is trying to FORCE people to use the euphemism “GAY” instead of hom osexuality. But let’s just call a spade a spade and forget the Politially Correct B.S. We were discussing HOM OSEXUALITY, not “gayness”…

And Breitbart, for you to be THAT hypersensitive to the word, one must wonder if it is because YOU want to be CALLED GAY????

Alex   October 5th, 2008 - 12:32 am

As a woman, who was born physically intersexed, (both part male and part female), perhaps I am well qualified to comment on this issue.

Personally, I don’t think that the issue of homosexuality should be brought up in schools, anymore than hetero relationships, except in sex-ed courses where it is appropriate. Children are in school to learn, not to become indoctrinated in matters not pertaining to traditional education.

I’ve spent many hundreds of hours studying what happened to me as a result of a severe birth anomaly that occurred over 50 years ago. As a result, I’ve come to the conclusion that homosexuality occurs while the baby is in utero, within the first trimester. Can it be learned? I think not likely, just as straight people,
their minds are hard-wired that way by nature. Likewise, it is unlikely that anyone can become gay by mere choice. It’s all part of inbred instinct, a component of human biology, part of the Grand Creation, if you will.

It has nothing to do with moral issues or religious judgmentalism. There are plenty of mistakes in many translations of the Bible, so it is impossible for an intelligent person to take such things literally. One must determine for themselves on what is fair, right and honorable.

Christians in particular carry around lots of guilt for which they need not bear. Most are afraid of some terrible fate that will befall them if they do not march lock-step in the procession of blind religious dogma that has zero crediability in an age of reason.

Due to a condition of birth, which of course, I did not choose, I have lived my entire lifetime alone. And when I mean that, I truly mean alone. I’ve never had the benefit of a companion, a romance, intimacy or anything close to what most people describe as love. As an oddity of nature, I find that most people do not appreciate what they do have, whether they be gay or straight.

At least a gay person can share love with another person, which is something I will never be able to do. That’s okay, because I contribute to people in many other ways.

Would you deny any human being the ability to be loved by another because some fellow, whom you never met, or know virtually anything about, wrote something that was published in a book compiled a long time ago? I think not.

There is a stark difference between man-made religion, which is based upon ignorance, and truth of the universe, which may have indeed been created by supreme intelligence.

Our mission should be to love each other equally, without judgment, fear or favor.

If you believe in God, great! Please don’t foist your man-made religion on me or anyone else. Religion is for those who cannot think for themselves.

I suggest, sit alone quietly at home, or under the stars at night, and think. Really think and ponder. You may discover within yourself what makes sense to you and what does not. If there is a Creator, which I believe there is, he/she wants you to use your mind and soul to understand your place in the world as well as the plight of other people. You can only get that wisdom from your heart and not a book written by man.

jack   October 5th, 2008 - 5:25 am

Typical evangelical amateur-hour stuff. Ladies and gentlemen, a text that is three thousand years old in some parts and two thousand years in others wasn’t designed to be used in contemporary scientific discussion. Evangelicals are so cute. If the bible is so important to you, learn Greek!

lazurm   October 5th, 2008 - 7:52 am

One’s sexual orientation is not the issue here. One’s political orientation is not the issue here either.

The issue is: which, in this situation, should take predominance, first amendment rights of free speech or separation of church and state. Apparently the school officials decided that, by leaving out religiously slanted literature from the school library, they avoided the separation of church and state issues and that doing so is better for the public good…in this particular situation.

Melissa   October 6th, 2008 - 3:47 pm

Thisis getting ridiculous! The schools should teach math, english, history, science, skills, etc. Leave sex ed up to the parents. Even if it is “wrong” so can the teachers be “wrong”. Church and State should be saperate. Their is just as much division, fighting, greed, debt, and confusion in the church as there is in politics. No Christian books at school as well as no Muslim, Wica, Athiest, or any other type of religious literature. Parents should be the ones teaching ethics, how to behave sexually and socially, and religious views. Kids grow up and most of the time will have similar but also different view points than their parents. So leave it to the parents not the teachers. If someone want to read a book on religon or sexuality then go to the public library or go online. If parents are still not happy nor the kids happy with the school system then HOMESCHOOL! ! ! !

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