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She’s awesome and a winner!!!
Hoyer? What a clown. It’s time turn the Dems back into the minority again.
She’s smart,hot, no nonsense, small government reformer, business leader, state leader. Did I mention she’s hot?.
I think Palin was a smart choice. I would rather have a woman from Alaska as VP than a Muslim from Indonesia as President.
To the person who posted as “Fox News lets truth slip! August 30th, 2008 – 6:06 am”
Please, take the time to actually have a clue of what you are speaking about before turning yourself loose on the keyboard next time. Amniocentisis is highly advised by the majority of OB/Gyn’s when the pregnancy is occuring in an older woman. As she is well over 40 it had nothing to do with “AH HAH she must have been considering abortion!” and everything to do with following the reccomendation of her physician.
Blast her for her politics if you must, but for the sake of cheese inform yourself before you do so eh?
The Democrats look like complete idiots attacking Palin, a VP candidate with executive experience and accomplishments particularly in the area of reform. Do they not realize their candidate for POTUS has ZERO executive experience let alone accomplishments and zero legislative accomplishments let alone BIPARTISAN legislative accomplishments? Basically he’s got nothing going for him but a speech he made before the run up to the Iraq War. That’s ALL the man has been running on. This hysteria and ungracious overreaction by the Democratic Party and the clueless elitist biased main stream media is LAUGHABLE.
Steny Hoyer! YOU are a joke! Sarah Palin has been able to enact more reform and show more political and personal courage than either YOU or your candidate of choice! Palin is doer not a talker and she’s not a partisan hack like YOU Hoyer.
FoxNews let’s truth slip! mistakenly has us narrowly consider that “the only reason you risk the child’s life by having an amnio is if you’re considering terminating the pregnancy.
I know a couple with a Down’s child who had amnio after the blood test screen (mandatory for most insureds in my state)just to know for sure, while never even considering termination. It was so they could know for sure to prepare for the future, such as making arrangments before the birth for immediate theraputic treatments as soon as possible after the birth, such treatment now producing some amazing results to increase Downs childrens’ level of functioning.
I applaud Palin for establishing her creds (not necessarily increasing her creds since she is virtually an unknown) by walking the talk, as well as bringing awareness to Downs syndrome, who are some of the sweetest and gentle children you will ever encounter. Most people now abort these precious and sweet individuals – so I could care less if she politicizes or not if awareness in the public arena is heightened as a result to show these people are not merely throw aways as our liberal fascist culture believes.
WayneM-
You’ve noticed the raw, naked fear, too? Their shrill screams are music to my ears. This is probably their absolute worst nightmare. It’s been fun checking out the msm blogs where they hang out.
Who is this woman? She has no experience. There are very few people in Alaska and most of it is land mass. What does she bring to the table? Nothing. This country would be in trouble if she had to become the president a few days after inauguration ceremonies. John McCain lacks judgement.
Is it just my imagination, or does Hoyer look stoned?
you’re all a bunch of retards
She was runner up in a Miss Alaska contest. Did Obama or Hoyer ever do that?
Fox News lets truth slip! <—– you are a total moron and a complete low life. the fact that YOU brought the baby up as ammo against Mrs. Palin is dispicable and a perfect example of the fear and panic spreading through the Dems.
Mr. Hoyer is a poster child for why term limit is a reasonable idea. These people were shocked and set back with McCains pick of Mrs. Palin.
Its like their circus/convention never happened.
Craig…Take it easy.
Not all Christians believe in forcing their religion and way of life on people through violence and war.
Now Muslims on the other hand…
Doesn’t this Hoyer guy have enough money to get braces?
It seems like he already knows where to get the pain medication in case it hurts too much…
His eyes, you can always tell with the eyes
Was Kind of funny looking at him speak, You could see the fear and disappointment on his face. The DEM’s were hoping it was somebody else they could gang attack like Romney, I’m sure they had all the attack ads recorded with Romney attacking McCain waitning in the wings, than the BIG SURPRISE hit, now there running around with there heads cut off not sure which direction to go in. My hat is off to you Senator McCain for your brilliant move. Youve Boxed Obama and Biden in a corner with not much attack room, even when they strike you can counter easily. Well done.
Indy…
Today’s announcement was completely typical of everything that either party puts on. I don’t see your point in attacking McCain’s wife (that is beneath you, isn’t it?), and Palin mentioning things like her husband’s snowmachining is what all politicians do, when introducing themselves to voters, for the first time — it’s called FAMILIARIZING yourself…telling voters about yourself, your family, interests, etc. (And she did not ‘go on’ about it — it was several sentences, at most, about various things.) All of this stuff is precisely what the ‘bigtime’ and the presidency are about, at the beginning. Every candidate — from both sides — does it. If Palin were silent on these kinds of things, the talking heads in the media would be musing aloud: ‘well, we really don’t know anything about her…why doesn’t she get that out there?”
And who the heck is ‘Sanjaya’?
You wrote: “No dr. will flatly recommend an amnio, which carries a 1 in 200 chance of miscarriage.”
Wish you would QUIT with these dorky “odds”! 1 in 200 sounds pretty damned SAFE, compared to SOME ODDS that you run into in the GYN world. For example, an IUD can cause infertility in about 1 in FOUR women. Now THOSE are scary odds…
Why don’t you just DROP your silly argument about the “dangers” of amnio? The woman “TINA FEY”/SARAH PALIN(??) or whoever she is, HAD the AMNIO at about 4 months–she said so herself. SO WHAT? She wanted to learn what she could. She learned the kid would be a Down Syndrome kid, and went ahead and had it *anyway.*
92% of women who find out they’re carrying a Down Syndrome fetus DO choose to abort. This shows us that TINA/SARAH is in the lower EIGHT PERCENTILE as far as IQ goes in women.
There, chew on those numbers for a while.
Craig,
Then I got to your second post… Boring tripe.
I’m glad you are in Canada already— now you can get your a$$ out of our politics. We’ve let you become as Socialist as you want up there in your snow-covered… dirt. You can go ahead and let us do as we choose down here, too.
Hey, I hear freedom of speech up there is real free these days. Call me back in twenty years and tell me how you’re doing. By the way, you’ll experience a mass influx of dejected liberals looking for a nanny state real soon. They can be your new buddies— a bunch of ‘free-thinkers’ who are highly enlightened and can discuss the intricacies of the latest modern shock art with you at length. We’ll just be down here listening to Country and drinking beer— Busch. Probably spittin’, too.
You make the French likable again, keep it up.
His tooth annoys me.
McCain-Palin ‘08!!!
SARAH PALIN ROCKS!
The Palin pick is a stroke of genius. The Republican base would crawl through hell for this woman. In one move McCain has energized his base AND picked off some disgruntled Hillary voters.
Indy 76,
The reason we are so great is not just because we won a FEW wars like you put it but becuase we have won ALOT of wars, we have never been beaten except in the halls of congress.
We have a great hadicap in this country like I said, Libro-facscits and minorities are dragging us down. But we are still the greatest country that ever existed in History. If the morons elect the Muslim Marxist, we will go the way of all 3rd world countries and end up no better than your be-loved Canadadistan.
I don’t need to be lectured by a Cannuck lover liberal who thinks the Teachers Union Cares about kids the way Sarah Pallin and Senator McCain and the rest of the Conservatives do. They care about more children than the Libro-fascists do because they care about kids who have not even been borne yet. The unborn.
It is not the Goverments’ job to educate children, it is the Parent’s, if the paren’ts don’t educate their children, let them fall by the waside on the Great Highway of Life, who cares. Good children with good parents will get good educations and the rest will end up in jail anyway. Why waste taxpayers money on them.
So I don’t get it, do Democrats think that Obama’s experience IS acceptable or not to be President?
They are clueless and don’t know how to answer this.
PhoneBill, you took the words out of my keyboard. They are STUNNED. They are REELING. How do they beat up a strong women, a Governor with a nice list off accomplishments. They can’t. A mom of 5, from a U.S. soldier to a nearly new born. Go ahead, try it. What a bunch of punks.
And Hoyer is worse than a Nazi. See, two can play at this game.
Sarah Palin is going to appeal to the silent majority. Anybody that looks at her sees their Mom, Sister, the girl that they grew up with. All of her accomplishments are just icing on the cake. She is a win win for McCain.
Ooh, cat fight, I love it. Pelosi is a loser and does not have 1/10th the accomplishment of this great woman, future Vice President and President.
Sarah was been mayor of a town of 5,470 people, 85% of them white, 0.6% black or African American, 4% Hispanic or Latino of any race. 10% of the population and 67% of families were below the poverty line
Was Pelosi ever a mayor? I didn’t think so. Experience: Sarah 1, Nancy 0
While she was mayor she successfully pushed a half-percent **sales tax increase** to build a $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena. The popular sports complex is not breaking even. But in a climate like Alaska it is important to have an ice arena.
Did Pelosi ever do that? I didn’t think so. Experience: Sarah 2, Nancy 0
Palin hired a public works director with no engineering background, Cindy Roberts, who had been a Commerce Department official in the administration for former Gov. Wally Hickel. The wife of longtime Hickel aide Malcolm Roberts, she lasted a year in the job.
Experience: Sarah 3, Nancy 0
The local newspaper, the conservative The Frontiersman, reported her rolling her eyes and making faces at city council meetings when she heard testimony she didn’t like.
Did Pelosi ever do that? I didn’t think so. Experience: Sarah 4, Nancy 0
That’s just for starters. She has been governor of Alaska for 2 years. Has Pelosi ever been governor of anything? I didn’t think so.
Experience: Sarah 100, Pelosi – 50
I wish you could transliterate the sounds of bawling laughter more effectively— this is such hilarity!
So Obama picks Biden to cover up that ‘experience’ argument and, according to Spike Lee “balance things out”, then McCain picks someone less experienced than he— though still with way more executive experience than Obama! And these Dems have nothing to say. This joke of a politician claiming she is worse than Dan Quayle is the reason that Democrats kicked their lips snapped every election cycle these days. Over the past thirty-four years we’ve had two Democrats, but this old badger is going to tell us who the Republicans ought to go with? What a laughing stock.
And to think that, for a time, I was worried Barack might win. Now I’m shaking with anticipation to see the debates begin! Too bad Obama chickened out of all those townhalls… Would’ve thought the “great orator” was game for such verbal confrontations.
Meet your new VP you angry, hateful liberals! Better get your papers prepared for the move to Canada!
I kid you not:
“Does the fact that she knew she had a Down’s Syndrome and kept it anyway increase her credibility with the pro-life voter because she walks the talk?”
Unbelievable. We all know she was selected to shore up the conservative christian vote, but if they start parading that poor child around for political gain I’m am through with the GOP forever.
Consider this: The only way you “know” (definitively) if you’re child is Down’s syndrome is by having an amniocentesis. The only reason you risk the child’s life by having an amnio is if you’re considering terminating the pregnancy. So either they were considering an abortion, or they didn’t know the condition of their child. Either way, this doesn’t add up. Either way the use of this child for political reasons is disgusting.
The Dems are going to win the election hands down. However if a Democrat chose to move to Canada most of them would be far more welcome than the fascist right-wing heartless religious nutjob Republicans. You extremist right wing loonies ought to sit down by yourselves in a corner and spend some time seriously considering why you are hated so much by most of the people in the world.
Craig, Great comment! Way to show awesome intelligence with force of argument! You had many facts to back up your claims! No one is going to be able to have a single comeback! You are a genius!
Craig,
The reason us conservatives are hated by the caring people of the world is that we’re actually competent and can accomplish tasks on our own without our mommy’s help. Have a great move to Kanuckistan!
One hundred percent correct on each of his statements. Irrefutable.
These dumocrats sound like a bunch of delusional 12 yr. olds, don’t they? And I love the name calling – such a class act.
Craig, you be too cool, dude. Can we help buy you a one way ticket to Canada?
DTaylor-
When my wife was pregnant, her Ob/Gyn didn’t just recommend amniocentisis, her flatly stated that if she refused the procedure he would no longer treat her. That is in no small part due to the potential liability.
Boy – the demorats seem to have, as a group, gone ballistic.
I smell fear – big time.
Let us understand — a bum with a 14% approval rating criticizing the’ successful Gov. Sarah Palin with a 90% approval rating?
You democraps are all the same mimdless sheeple that will follow any nut job.
I think the VP pick was a great choice and like what was said before ruunning a state is way more than the 143 days oslama has spent on his job……look at his voting record most of the time he did not vote….what a joke.BTY a present vote is same as a NO vote.
Obama has a lot of experience dealing with terrorists in their own dinner table and knows their feeding and drinking habits,where they shop, who are their friends and on a very personal level he anounce his candicdacy from the living room of a known terrorist… That alone sets him apart from any other presidential candidate in the history of this great nation. OBAMA BI(nla)DEN 08 ! change you will regret !!!
Get a new ob/gyn….No credible Dr. requires an amnio unless other markers are present at the time of ultrasound. period. amnios carry a 1 in 200 chance of miscarriage. You have the worst doctor ever.
To DTaylor:
Considering I just went through this with my wife at one of the nation’s leading perinatal clinics, I would consider myself up to speed.
No dr. will flatly recommend an amnio, which carries a 1 in 200 chance of miscarriage. Screening begins with ultrasound and bloodwork called the “quad-4″ screening. These, combined with the age of the mother at birth, give you odds that your child has one of the three detectable chromosomal abnormalities.
Then, it’s entirely up to you if you want an amnio to know for certain. If you are not going to consider an abortion, then there is no need for an amnio at all.
No dr. ever will require a woman to put her unborn doctor at risk. if yours does then i suggest finding a dr. that doesn’t work out of his garage.
Stenny you are a hack if you believe Nobama is more experienced that Palin. Palin has 10 years executive experience. The Marxist Obama has 141 working days in the US Senate and as the junior chump from Illinois.
No need to buy me a ticket. I already live in Canada. Mike, you’re not hated because you’re competent; you’re hated when you try to impose your views on the rest of the world through violence; you’re hated for your holier-than-thou attitude that comes from your superstitious minds that believe some spook in the sky not only exists, but is actually on your side. You’re not hated for supporting a system that encourages self sufficiency but you are hated for allowing that system to have morphed into an unfair and inhumane system where millions suffer through no fault of their own. You’re hated for throwing a larger percentage of your own people in prison than any other civilized nation. You’re hated for doing this primarily to minorities and poor people. You’re hated for sending primarily minorities and poor people to the front lines whilst your religious nutjob leaders almost always have an excuse why their kids aren’t sent to the front lines. You’re hated because you don’t even know what friggin football is. When you use your hands, it ain’t football! You’re hated because, although most of the rest of the world can together and work under one common system (metric) you’re too dang stubborn to cooperate. You’re hated for your arrogance; even if you’re the only country in the world allowed to participate in an event, you always declare that you’re the world champions. You’re hated because you allow a buffoon like Al Gore to spew out more hot air than the rest of mankind combined. You’re hated for your poor quality of television shows and despised that Jerry Springer and reality shows are your highest contibutions to culture in the last 50 years. Now smarten up and grow up; Canada can tolerate a wart growing on its arse end but does it have to be so dang ugly?
The corruptocrats are realizing they bought a lemon
Who is Steny Hoyer?
Ha Ha.. A hack..
Hey, they still won with Quayle.
Since the Democrats would have criticized anyone that McCain picked, why does their laughable response to Palin even make news? Unlike Steny Hoyer (who I don’t even know has ever set foot in Alaska), I’m actually FROM Alaska — and I can say unequivocally that McCain’s choice, as well as his timing, was quite shrewd and brilliant, overall.
As for you, Craig, a few posts up…the USA may be hated by secular bigots like you, but you really don’t matter. We don’t care what you think. You’re irrelevant, Craig.
She made decisions, he voted “present”
You’re a bigot ela, not me, and you do care otherwise you wouldn’t even have responded to my post. The word secular makes no sense. We prefer to be called either ‘rationalists’ or ‘brights’ and there are millions of us even in the good old USA. You say McCains choice was shrewd. Quite possibly although I personally think it will backfire. The problem is the choice was made in an attempt to be shrewd rather than in an attempt to choose the most qualified candidate for the position.
It’s a shame that both parties feel compelled to suck up to the embarrasingly large superstitious flat earth folks. The USA is falling into third world status because of them and their anti-scientific bias. The world is round, sticks don’t turn into snakes and koolaid don’t turn into blood. Once you figure out kiddie basics like that then and only then will the USA have the right to act like a world power. Until then you really should be sitting in your chair in the corner adjusting your tin foil hats so that ‘Satans’ evil rays can’t get you.
Ela,
I agree that liberal Canadians tend to be irrelevant, envious bigots (probably inhereted from the French side), except Craig at least got one thing right – Al Gore is a buffoon. Unfortunately, we can’t stop him as much as we’d like to given that pesky First Amendment. Craig lives in the Peoples Republic of Kanada, however, where the Orwellian termed “Human Rights Commissions” can shut up anyone who haven’t partaken of the Kool-Aid yet. So perhaps Algore can emigrate there and Craig can put an end to that blowhard’s fear-mongering for good. One less reason to hate us then – as if we care.
No, Craig…I do not care what you think, and I simply wanted you to know that.
The word secular makes plenty of sense — it’s simply someone who’s not at all (or at least not oriented toward) religious belief in a Divine being — which is what I think you’re trying to say with your preferred descriptions. And, since you are, in fact, quite obviously bigoted against those who DO carry such belief, then that by definition makes you a secular bigot. You’re also quite presumptious. I’m not even a Christian, myself. Further, many secular people both here and abroad are quite politically conservative. I might also add that you are coming across as a very embittered, hateful person — not the kind of tolerant, inclusive image I’m assuming you fancy yourself having. But all your attitude does is eat you up, inside; it doesn’t change anything, and certainly changes no minds.
Governors do more work in 1 week then a senator dose in a year. Sarah also has more foreign experience she did negotiate a deal with Canada for a new natural gas pipe line. What have you done BHO???
POW/WOW 08
Palin is the first thing that McCain has done that I completely support but I am posting because I think Quayle got the worst MSM reporting before GWB. Quayle was not dumb but because there was no one to back him, the press got a free pass to make fun of him.
That is not true for Palin. While the MSM is already saying she is dumber then Quayle, they no longer have a monopoly on new. With talk radio, blogs, and Fox, the liberal press can’t do to her what they did to Quayle. But I see they already are trying.
Hmm, Steny and his gang must be in panic mode for such a mean-spirited reflexive re-action. I would think that they would rejoice on that news, maybe even laugh about it. Hmmm
Craig, I bet you hated your father too when he told you to clean your room. You see, grown-up’s sometimes have to make tough and unpopular decisions. Your little tantrum there is apporximate to the Canadian contribution to foreign policy. Kinda like a foreign liberal troll on a conservative website. Weak.
Ela,
I’m not a liberal, no French in me, and I can’t stand our Human Rights Commission. I’m fiscally conservative and socially right smack in the middle of the spectrum. Your assumptions should show you just how far extreme right and intolerant many Republicans actually are including, apparently, yourself. If you look left, a long way left, turn left, go down a very long corridor, go even lefter, wear a t-shirt that says left on it, think even more leftish than you do now, eat left, drink some left and then and only then, go left a lot more and then look to the left; who would you see? Hitler!
Craig…while I’m glad to hear you’re not in favor of the Human Rights Commission either, I must ask: if you’re not a liberal, then why did your post a ways back run lock-step with classic liberalism (with the exceptions of your views on Al Gore and US TV)? You attacked the USA in general, attacked those who believe in creation, attacked the US prison system (they committed crimes, that’s why they’re in it), attacked the US military (with a patent falsehood), attacked Christians, and promoted one-world socialist goverment, with zero tolerance for any and all who would dissent from it. You even attacked our particular version of football. I fail to see how that is ‘right smack in the middle of the spectrum.’ You talk as if there is only a right wing, but no left wing. If those positions you’ve outlined aren’t left wing, then what on earth is? It can hardly be called presumptuous to conclude you are a liberal — based on the evidence you yourself offered.
When all on earth I said was that McCain’s choice of Palin was shrewd and brilliant — and you respond by saying I’d have to walk a mile leftward to even reach Hitler — you’ve made yourself out to be a bitter, overreacting fool…not to mention slightly intolerant of any dissenting viewpoints, to say the least. Oh, one other presumption you did in fact make about me (which I neglected to mention earlier): I’m not only not a Christian, I’m not a Republican, either, nor a rabid McCain fan. That doesn’t mean that I can’t see wisdom in a decision he made — or support him in our election, because the other choice is worse.
Ha! Touche! The Dems are running scared now!
Palin will soon be our new Sanjaya.
Today’s press conference was a small-town joke. John the Birthday Boy surrounded by his two beauty queens: Plastic fantastic Cindy and Palin, going on about her husband being a championship snowmobiler? Cmon. This is the bigtime. This is the presidency.
I feel sorry for Palin. In another decade, she could have been taken very seriously as a leader in the Republican party. But for the sake of spicing up his snoozer of a campaign (and the GOP brand) McCain has plucked Palin from obscurity – and left her destined to become a national joke.
Canadians are morons and surrender monkeys. We don’t care what they think because they can’t even think. We think, we are compentent, we know how to win, all the Kantards know how to do is loose. Name one war they have ever won. Morons.
Even though the U. S. A. is bogged down with liberals whc ihs is a kind of mental disease we are still the gratest country that has ever roamed the face of this Earth.
Most Kantards still live in igloos and log cabins and don’t have electricity. you must of crossed the boarder into the U. S. A. to use a computer, nice typing though.
I smell fear. Democrats are terrified of her, with good reason.
Bud,
If you want to make the argument that we Americans are so smart, then please have the decency to spell correctly and use good grammar and punctuation. This is why liberals think Americans need a better education system.
It is macho and small to assume that we are greatest country in the world simply because we’ve won some wars. There are many other reasons that we are greatest country in the world.
“Anybody that looks at her sees their Mom, Sister, the girl that they grew up with. ”
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. Anybody who looks at her sees TINA FEY!
This woman is a joke. Having her hold office in the White House is a joke. Are you SURE she is not TINA FEY and McLame is just playing another of his corny hoaxes/jokes on the American people?!
Cindy doesn’t look well, and her having to stand around looking lost, confused, OLD, & out of place, while John shows off his new BEAUTY QUEEN must’ve been very difficult. She was at a loss as to what to do with herself.
Cindy’s body language says, “GET ME OUT OF HERE.” She clearly is not thrilled at all with this whole Presidential Campaign thing.
Does not bode well for his campaign… or for Cindy’s health…
Worrisome.
One thing Palin has done that none of the other candidates for president or vice president have done is make a budget, defend it and take the grief for it.
Craig,
Oh I have wondered why the Left has such bitter and intense hatred toward the Right. And I believe that I have a far deeper understanding of why this is than you do. Your side would kill your opposition if you were not afraid of the law. The cowardice on the left— despite their violent hatred— prevents them from wreaking havoc on their opposition. And I wonder how long cowardice will keep them fixed. I believe that violence will break out sooner or later between these two sides.
But no worries— it will be a short skirmish. The right-wingers have all the guns.
And they know how to shoot.
Craig,
Sorry— I didn’t realize you were a fellow right winger. Ah, yes a rationalist. I love that term. Makes for some good debating. I also love ‘bright’. I really love that one. I love arguing people like you down into a small, scary place that you can’t wiggle out of except through repeating your mantras in anger. It is no trouble at all. Really, no trouble at all. But its much better in person.
I would also enjoy to add that your tone just makes it more clear what a fool you are, as well as the fact that this is utterly unbeknownst to you. You are a trite fool who thinks he has an argument— an argument that can be crushed easily, but not by all. You haven’t met that special person yet, so you are still quite secure in your views. It is very cute, like the way a very young woman is cute. So frivolous, so carefree— like a pretty little butterfly flitting from tree to tree. La da de doo, la da de dee.
Anyway, maybe I took you out of context since I skipped through your posts so fast. I was premature in my other responses since I didn’t want to read what you wrote.
Now to worry about my addiction to posting here. I need medication for it, I think…
Indy, today’s announcement was completely typical of everything that either party puts on. I don’t see your point in attacking McCain’s wife (that is beneath you, isn’t it?), and Palin mentioning things like her husband’s snowmachining is what all politicians do, when introducing themselves to voters, for the first time — it’s called FAMILIARIZING yourself…telling voters about yourself, your family, interests, etc. (And she did not ‘go on’ about it — it was several sentences, at most, about various things.) All of this stuff is precisely what the ‘bigtime’ and the presidency are about, at the beginning. Every candidate — from both sides — does it. If Palin were silent on these kinds of things, the talking heads in the media would be musing aloud: ‘well, we really don’t know anything about her…why doesn’t she get that out there?”
And who the heck is ‘Sanjaya’?
Gregory Scot would be a better pick than Sarah Palin. By an Alaskan mile.
Craig, pretty much everything you’ve said is either twisted or a lie.
hmmm…is it better to have a Pres who calls his wife a cu*t in public:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
…and has had a well documented affair with a lobbyist:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/02/21/2008-02-21_john_mccain_affair_rumor_swirls.html
..or is it better to have a VP who is being investigated for misuse of public office?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/08/mccains_vp_pick_palin_facing_e.html
Hoyer is not even original in his anti-woman insults as he obviously got that ‘Dan Quayle’ remark from DailyKos, an anti-American website.
Hoyer is an idiot. He can say that Obama has far, far, far, far (etc.) more experience than Palin, but it doesn’t make it true. He might as well say Obama is far, far, far taller than Kareem Abdul-Jabar.
The “reporter” is also a disgrace, asking him a leading question: “don’t you think McCain chose her so Biden couldn’t pick on her because she’s a woman”? Sheesh. Did she go to journalism school to learn to ask questions like that?
Old Craig knows how to push buttons. Unfortunately he’s a tunnel-vision idiot who should keep his nose and his concerns in his own country. I’m one proud American who doesn’t give a damn about our jealous foreigner’s opinions. We’ve had to fight for them, bail most of them out and hand over much of our wealth to them. Yes, Craig, I believe in the “spook in the sky” and even if I’m wrong, what have I lost? At least it gives me peace. If you’re wrong on the other hand, look out!
If you suffer in America, the land of opportunity, its usually your fault. If you’re in prison, you committed a crime. As for minorities and poor, they are victims of the democratic party – victims being the key word. They are created, wooed and used for their political support and unfortunately are too stupid to realize it. Just like your “victims”. Victims of your lousy health care system. Victims of your pot smoking laws. Victims of your liberal leaders and media. How’s the war objectors doing up there? You even criticize our sports. How many medals did you bring home from the Olympics? You and people like you are pimples on their country’s ass. We have lots of them here too. They’re called democrats.
Last, I’d like to say something about Steny Hoyer. I live in the state of Maryland but I’m a republican. I have no representation. Maryland is a welfare state dominated by white “superiors” who OWN and PAY minorities to vote for them in the disguise of “taking care of them”. Victimization is their policy. The state sucks as far as I’m concerned.
The dumocraps are running scared right now because they picked a token idiot to run for president. A friggin, if not muslim, a muslim sympathizer, when we’re in a gigantic war with muslim extremist! They’ve infiltrated our country with cells all over and this never crosses a democrap’s mind, even after they murdered 3,000 of them. They’ve even put one in our Senate! These people want to kill every one of us and are just waiting for a government weak enough to be able to do it – preferably a dumocrap like Obama. Think about the name, President Hussien Obama. I haven’t forgotten the bodies flying out of the windows of the WTC on 9/11. And, by the way, the man who has captured, killed and crippled the people who did this to us is crucified publically in this country. Libs and the lib media has created this hate for President Bush and for our country, and Obama is going to pay for it. It’s payback time. We’ll see how he’s standing after 8 years of endless battering, even though the lib media loves him. They can’t dominate any longer and only the very stupid follow them.
I have my concerns about John McCain and Governor Palin. I think John McCain and his “gang of seven” is a big part of what fractured the republican party, not George Bush, and he did it because it got him noticed and made him a darling of the lib media – who now hate him. I have no doubts about his ability and strength to lead but I do worry about his age and health. This is where my fear of Palin comes in. I’m sure she’s a great person, smart, great mother and would be a great conservative senator but I’m not sure she’s ready to step in and lead our military and country in these scary times. I’m not saying she can’t, I’m saying I don’t know if she can. I truly believe Obama can’t because he lacks the experience and also because of his radical beliefs and ties. I also don’t know if I’m ready for a black president. I don’t want to see Spike Lee, Ludicrus, Fat ass Oprah and all the entertainment trash in the white house. That is not what this country is about. So, for me, this election is a difficult one. I’m voting for McCain because he’s the lesser of the two evils. I hope he picks conservative judges and overturns Roe vs Wade. Maybe we can save 40 million babies instead of killing 40 million.
Obama has done nothing but take from this country, he’s contribution so far is a net negative.
He’s accepted paychecks for elected positions where he’s done absolutely nothing beyond run for the next office.
Can the voters who elected him honestly say they got their dollar’s worth out of him? Of course not.
All Obama does in office is line the pockets of his supporters and run for the next office. If he’s elected, the latter will be eliminated and the former will take up all of his time.
What a worthless man Barack Obama is.
And Hoyer is complaining about Palin?
Greg, you bring up a few good points, and I appreciate that. But I have to refute a few others.
First off – the name calling about Obama is old and just as bad as the people calling Palin a naughty secretary — it should stop on both sides, so that we can have some clarity.
2. Very few evangelicals were ever really straying to Obama. Evangelicals are loyally pro-life, and are reticent to vote Democrat almost always. So at best, Palin brings some back to the flock – mostly those who were just planning to stay home on election day.
3. The governor vs senator thing is clear in the minds of loyal Republicans — Republicans think governors are superior to senators because of they hate big government, and generally think senators are useless. Conversely, loyal Democrats love senators because they like a bigger government. The swing voters are somewhere in the middle. So, swing voters wont equate Palin’s governor experience quite as highly as you do. There is also the issue that Palin is from small-population state where many think nothing happens.
4. Swing voters tend to be less interested in politics and less informed. They dont listen to Rush everyday. They dont read Politico…Swing voters havent thought out what a senator does vs what a governor does…or what experience they personally think is better. And they only know bulletpoints, at best, of each candidate’s platforms. So, when swing voters think McCain/Palin, they think — “a really old Senator with a hockey mom Ive never heard of.” It’s not fair — But that’s the way it is. The challenge for Palin and McCain is to make Palin immediately credible and familiar to swing voters in 60 days. Since swing voters dont purposely seek out political coverage, this is a big big challenge.
5. You cant look at previous elections as a guide for how swing voters will vote (ie: The Quayle ticket won, or Bill Clinton won), because we are in more troubling times. And, there is an unusually high backlash to the prior administration, since so many voters (on both sides) are unhappy with the direction of the country, especially as it relates to the economy.
It doesnt mean McCain couldnt pull it off. But from my estimation he and Palin have major challenges ahead in order to make headway with swing voters. And if anyone is making headway with swing voters, it is Obama…38 million Americans watched his speech, and I promise you, it wasnt all Dems. I dont think McCain or Palin can pull those numbers.
Craig, the reason so many people hate republicans is simple. It’s because most conservatives (repub or not) are Christians. And Jesus said the world will hate you (His followers) because they hate me (Jesus). So, what you’re syaing is correct, but it’s because those of us who love Jesus are hated by the world since they hate Him, too.
And for the record, Christians do not hate others. We are commanded to love everyone and this is shown in all the ministries that give food and shelter to the poor, crisis pregnancy centers that aid in adoption and births as alternatives to abortion, counseling those who are in distressed marriages so they can be saved, and helping kids to get off the streets and from doing drugs. That’s not my definition of hate, but love.
BO – a senator whose campaign slogans are “change you can believe in” and “shake up politics as usual” chooses a washington insider for VP and follows along with the same, boring blah, blah…
JM – a senator who’s bashed by BO as “4 more years of Bush” chooses a washington outsider and the dem machine are critical of his choice.
Who looks like the “politics as usual” crowd now? Republicans for choosing an outsider or Dems for choosing an insider?
BO’s campaign: Nail meet coffin.
I’m sorry, but working every day running a state, and working during school days in DC doesn’t bear the same level of responsibility by any measure. And equating Pelosi with Palin is not even in the same ballpark. I’m sure Palin isn’t at all perfect, but Pelosi is a proven anti-American scumbag. They can attack Palin all they want. The Republican’s will just play Pelosi’s socialist demo-reels in retort. Actually, I’d rather Palin ran for President. She seems to be the only one there that has an opinion on anything.
I’m voting for her! She would look a hell of a lot better than Hilary, Nancy, or Barbara in a bikini (made of moose skin of course). Plus, for the love of Pete, please, drop the damn pant suit look.
First, The libs are running scared. We finally have a real candidate representative of the majority of the voting public. Polls of actual voters show this to still be a conservative nation. Libs are in the minority but scream the loudest. That’s why they are heard in the media more than we conservatives.
Second, amniocentisis. The test can also help determine if anything can be done in the developing stages of the baby while still in the womb. Not necessarily for determining if there is something wrong with the baby to decide on whether to abort or not.
Third. A very close friend of mine that I grew up with is a Republican, conservative representative in Illinois. He and I were talking shortly after Obama threw his hat in the liberal ring. I commented to him that we conservatives could really use someone who had been involved in politics long enough to have a feel for it but not long enough to have been corrupted by it. Well God must have been listening because He has given us just that. Sarah Palin is good for John McCain and she will be good for America!!!
Sorry libs. You may be heard in the media but we will be heard at the polls in November! God Bless America and God bless McCain/Palin!!
It seems like Palin helps McCain only in energizing the base (which wont be enough to beat the Obama mania).
Granted, she also generates a bit more interest from reporters (but the positive stuff “hey she is new and exciting” will only last a couple of days with the mainstream media. After that, the press will gravitate to her being completely green on the national stage, and the fact that Alaska’s state legislature is investigating her….they are already calling it Troopergate.
Some have called it a “short buzz, and a long hangover”
Also, now that Palin is in the mix, all I can think about is that McCain is OLD and could drop dead any second. McCain doesnt benefit from the fact that several other seemingly healthy public people have died suddenly recently – Sen Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Tim Russert are two examples.
One could argue that Palin and Obama are both inexperienced, but there is a difference here when it comes to voters -Democrats, through the primary process, said they DONT care about experience this election. Republicans DO. The conservative way of thinking is to elect people with experience, especially national security exp. Had Republicans not cared about this, they would have nominated Huckabee, not McCain.
Palin is at another disadvantage: Obama has been on the world stage for the past year. Palin has just 60 days. The danger of being unknown is that your opponent, and the press (and shows like Saturday Night Live) can paint you however they want, and it tends to stick with the public (Obama had the same problem earlier in 07, but had time to improve his image with Dems in later months)
And yes, she’s a woman, but 90% of Clinton voters realize that Palin is pro-life…I dont see enough of them switching. Clearly pro-life women were already voting for McCain. Palin also doesnt help McCain win a swing state.
This is why Palin as VP makes no sense, except that McCain is a Maverick, and mavericks go out on limbs (one reason why he isnt popular with the GOP base – risks dont win elections bc they screw up long-term campaign strategy)…
Maybe the GOP is punting this year, (since they dont like McCain anyway) and are making plans instead for 2012. It makes sense that they would want to inject new life into the party and improve the Republican brand after Bush hurt it so much. Palin stands a better chance to win in 2012 after having this national exposure. Maybe Rove wants to change the Republican brand from “neo-cons” to “fiscally-responsible reformers”…. That’s a brand people can get behind…And that seems to be Palin’s main strength..
A little more analysis for you:
McCain’s campaign also failed to realize that Hillary voters are as frustrated with ageism as they are sexism. (The Dem primary exacerbated that. It became a young vs old campaign, and Hillary voters were the old ones, who felt snubbed).
Throughout their lives, many of these 50-65 year old feminists were passed up for jobs and promotions because of more exciting younger women. And often times, the younger women werent as qualified and werent as invested in feminist ideals (yet those younger women are benefiting from the feminist cause that olden women fought for)
These older feminist women HATE that cycle – and it’s happened with Palin. Theyve got to be wondering – why were Condi Rice, Elizabeth Dole, and Kay Bailey Hutchison passed over?
Many of the Hillary voters are also college-educated and cynical – so I see them as being able to easily see through McCain’s “hey, I picked a woman, so vote Republican” argument….Its not simple for them.
Certainly, there are exceptions, and a small percentage of Hillary voters will go Republican this election. BUT that percentage will be cancelled out by certain Republican voting blocks who wont McCain because of Palin – such as: Ultraconservative men who would never vote for a woman on the ticket — Ultraconservative women (home-schoolers, Dr. Laura listeners) who think Palin should be home with her baby and other children. And those voters over 70, who feel their mortality at 70, and worry about a 44 year old hockey mom (with no national security experience) becoming President in the event McCain passed away.
Every plus has a minus with Palin, and I just dont see her bringing in enough votes to justify her being on the ticket — except that the GOP is punting the ball. They will let Obama have a shot for 4 years (which could be 4 un-repairable years bc of the horrible shape our economy is in) in the hope that Obama has a Jimmy Carter term. And, in the meantime, Palin becomes known nationally, and is being groomed for the future Presidency in 2012 or 2016.
Sorry, but I don’t want a PTA mom running the White House… and if McLame croaks, we could end up with that.
Not only that, but there are a lot of FASCINATING (AND SCARY) DETAILS about to emerge about Palin’s so-called “devout Christianity” (Assembly of God/speaking in tongues/rolling on floor/exorcising demons type of DEVOTION?)…
People better slow down and STUDY this woman before rushing out to VOTE for her.
PS Are you SURE she’s not TINA FEY??? This could all be just a sick joke that McLame is playing; he is well known for practical joking!
‘Scratching my head”
Yes, but there are these people called ’swing voters’, and, if you’ll recall, plenty voted for a less experienced Democrat— The Old Slick Trick-Puller Bill— over the more-experienced incumbent in ‘92. And you add to this that, if you’re someone who is so concerned about McCain dying on the job, you aren’t really voting for him, anyway. And then you consider the fact that executive experience is more germane to the Oval Office than Senatorial experience, which really is almost janitorial work in the US Government. Then there is her history of fighting corruption, which corroborates well with McCain’s chosen platform of Republican ‘Change” versus Obama ‘Change’. Obama’s message is being used on him with more effectiveness than he has been able to employ it so far. ObaMedusa’s gaze returned back upon her. Palin is an Evangelical, which will hopelessly attract a large segment of voters, some of whom were jaded and turning toward Obama. She is a working mom of five children which will attract more regular Americans— the types of people who have large numbers since they have ‘choosen’ to reproduce themselves over the past few decades rather than abort themselves out of existence. And she is pretty and charming— to many, if not most. Sexists will be dissatisfied at first, but they will find themselves likely voting for the least Socialist of the two choices, anyway.
We’ll see her face everywhere, hear her at least as much as McCain, and, yes, we’ll be finding out every detail about her life that can be uncovered by the MSM. They will work to defame and destroy her because they know she is a heinous threat to The Candidate That The Media Loved, the inimitable Barack Obama. The public no doubt will be forced to see the supposedly objective media’s extreme bias, and, if people are inured to her— which I am betting many will be soon— well, it’s just about wrapped up.
But never fear! America will get its Socialist president, and it will evolve into what we on the right are afraid of, in time. It will become a nanny state, an approximation of ‘The Great Society’. And there will be all sorts of terrible things that will befall us, before and after this. Human history is heating up. The next three decades will be quite dramatic— and just think about what went on last century!
This election, however, I am increasingly convinced will go to the Republicans. But the future is hard to predict with certainty, and I am just a casual prophet.
To that person who posted that “the only reason you risk the child’s life by having an amnio is if you’re considering terminating the pregnancy.”, I don’t usually resort to name calling but this is one time I will make an exception. You are a lying idiot! Please let me know what company, hospital you work for so I can make sure to avoid it.
IF IT WAS THE (PRO-ABORTION) OBAMA FAMILY IT WOULD BE FOUR CHILDREN INSTEAD OF FIVE.
Greg, you bring up a few good points, and I appreciate that. But I have to refute a few others.
First off – the name calling about Obama is old and just as bad as the people calling Palin a naughty secretary — it should stop on both sides, so that we can have some clarity.
2. Very few evangelicals were ever really straying to Obama. Evangelicals are loyally pro-life, and are reticent to vote Democrat almost always. So at best, Palin brings some back to the flock – mostly those who were just planning to stay home on election day.
3. The governor vs senator thing is clear in the minds of loyal Republicans — Republicans think governors are superior to senators because of they hate big government, and generally think senators are useless. Conversely, loyal Democrats love senators because they like a bigger government. The swing voters are somewhere in the middle. So, swing voters wont equate Palin’s governor experience quite as highly as you do. There is also the issue that Palin is from small-population state where many think nothing happens.
4. Swing voters tend to be less interested in politics and less informed. They dont listen to Rush everyday. They dont read Politico…Swing voters havent thought out what a senator does vs what a governor does…or what experience they personally think is better. And they only know bulletpoints, at best, of each candidate’s platforms. So, when swing voters think McCain/Palin, they think — “a really old Senator with a hockey mom Ive never heard of.” It’s not fair — But that’s the way it is. The challenge for Palin and McCain is to make Palin immediately credible and familiar to swing voters in 60 days. Since swing voters dont purposely seek out political coverage, this is a big big challenge.
5. You cant look at previous elections as a guide for how swing voters will vote (ie: The Quayle ticket won, or Bill Clinton won), because we are in more troubling times. And, there is an unusually high backlash to the prior administration, since so many voters (on both sides) are unhappy with the direction of the country, especially as it relates to the economy.
It doesnt mean McCain couldnt pull it off. But from my estimation he and Palin have major challenges ahead in order to make headway with swing voters. And if anyone is making headway with swing voters, it is Obama…38 million Americans watched his speech, and clearly, it wasnt all Dems. I dont think McCain or Palin can pull those numbers.
Track
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Bristol
Next will come Target and Bed, Bath and Beyond.
THIS MAN IS ABSOUTELY PITIFUL, DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT HE IS TRYING TO SAY. NO WONDER HE GETS THE TRUTH MIXED UP.
I may add that Steny Hoyer’s blurted, reflexive, and lame-brained remark about Palin being worse than Quayle is pretty mild, compared to how his party is now hoping that Hurricane Gustav works to their political advantage. It wasn’t enough that they cheered the deaths of black people in Katrina to hurt Bush; now both Michael Moore and former DNC chairman Don Fowler have joked that Gustav shows G-d hates Republicans and that it’s proof there is a G-d. Can you imagine the uproar the Obama-worshipping media would have made if Republicans had said stuff like this? It would be all you would hear about for days, if not weeks; the Dems would be demanding resignations, maybe even investigations, etc. Yet these hypocrite Dems say this kind of garbage with impunity, because they know their buddies in the media will simply ignore it. But they forget that in this current information age, they’ll be found out. Here’s a link with the info:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/absentee/2008/aug/30/fowler-fouls-hurricane-is-gods-favor-to-dem/
What kind of people are these? Are they trying to lose this election, maybe?
Also, Scratchingmyhead 3’s closing paragraph about undecided voters, a few posts back:
It is not, in fact, clear how successful Obama is being with swing voters. 38 million voters may have watched his speech — and yes, certainly not all of them were Democrats — but all that means is that they VIEWED it. A sizeable hunk of those viewers may have no intention of voting for Obama, or they may be underage, etc…and even if every last one of them WAS a voting-age Obama-backer, that still wouldn’t necessarily be enough to win the election. John Kerry got far more votes than 38 million in 2004, and he still lost.
FoxNews let’s truth slip! mistakenly has us narrowly consider that “the only reason you risk the child’s life by having an amnio is if you’re considering terminating the pregnancy.
Doh! Wrong. My specialist recommended amnio for my high risk pregnancy so if there was a problem such as downs syndrome or spinal bifida we could be prepared and proactive, not caught by surprise and clueless. Those screenings you mentioned are not 100% accurate.
With genetic amniocentesis, a sample of amniotic fluid is tested for certain abnormalities — such as Down syndrome and spina bifida. With maturity amniocentesis, a sample of amniotic fluid is tested to determine whether the baby’s lungs are mature enough for birth. Occasionally amniocentesis is used to evaluate a baby for infection or other illness. Rarely, amniocentesis is used to decrease the volume of amniotic fluid.
The rate of 1 in 200 miscarriages is from studies done in the 70’s. CUrrent studies with current techniques place the rate at 1 in 1600.
With genetic amniocentesis, a sample of amniotic fluid is tested for certain abnormalities — such as Down syndrome and spina bifida. With maturity amniocentesis, a sample of amniotic fluid is tested to determine whether the baby’s lungs are mature enough for birth. Occasionally amniocentesis is used to evaluate a baby for infection or other illness. Rarely, amniocentesis is used to decrease the volume of amniotic fluid.
Get a clue before you spout off accusations of people’s intentions.
Does anyone remember that Bill Clinton had no foreign policy experience and he was running for president. I would put Govenor Palin against Barak Obama and Hoyer any day of the week. Hoyer is pitiful. He doesn’t know a thing about Obama or Govenor Palin.
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After reviewing Governor Palin’s experience I think being the governor of our country’s largest state is far more experience than being an 8 year state senator from a small district in Illinois.
Also, In July 2007 Governor Palin visited the troops at the Landsthul Regional Medical Center in Germany.
That is one experience she has that Barack does not, even though he had the chance and chose not to go.