Raw: Intense Firefights Unfolds Between Russian and Georgian Soldiers

AP: President Bush on Monday demanded that Russia end a "dramatic and brutal escalation" of violence in Georgia, agree to an immediate cease-fire and accept international mediation to end the crisis in the former Soviet republic.

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August 11, 2008 at 11:21 pm - AP
Dateline: Achabet, South Ossetia
Terry   August 11th, 2008 - 11:31 pm

Go Russia!!!!!!! Since Georgia decided to make itself a puppet of Israel I hope they get wiped out! Don’t turn your back on your own kind, Georgians. Hope others learn their lesson from you.

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Gregory Scott   August 12th, 2008 - 12:09 am

Of course Terry sides with Putin and the other not-so-ex-Communists. It was a clever trap that Georgia fell into. They were not playing as good a hand as Russia here, and now Russia is slapping them and will achieve what it intended by causing this mess.

James   August 12th, 2008 - 1:15 am

The Great Game (struggle for empire in Central Asia) continues! I hope that someone in the Whitehouse is reading their history books.

JC   August 12th, 2008 - 1:25 am

In this crisis, we have a now gained a new slogan!!!

“Where’s Johnny!!!”

Meant to note that John McCain is too old, feeble, and simply retarded to deal with such real time late night events…

Unfortunately, we know all too well where Bush is… Condi is confused, as usual… And Cheney waiting in the hole for DC to get blown away…

Just face it… You might not like that 1/2 black Obama with the funny name, but republicans are just worthless trash when it comes to “attempting” to “play” like the leaders of our country… Many of them are now in jail. And next, many of them will be up for war crimes…

Seems the Republicans have just applied simplistic chronyism to help their friends make money while our country goes to Hell under them… FOX and Rove’s propaganda does indeed seem to fool the masses “today”, just like 70 years ago in Nazi Germany…

We may “wish” it was a Bush, or a McCain, or an Obama that ended up destroying America… But American’s destroyed their country all by themselves, out of being so damn stupid.

Gaston   August 12th, 2008 - 1:59 am

It’s so obvious that CIA’s fingertips are all around. I think they wanted to see how Russia will react. Georgian peons were just used for this chess match.
Poor Georgeins, but the guilty is on their side. They made a deal with one devil against another. And their devil is too far away.

Steve   August 12th, 2008 - 3:25 am

Cool, grown men shooting at each other. What fun!

Brandon   August 12th, 2008 - 3:29 am

Those Georgian infantry suck! No wonder they are getting their asses handed to them.

And since everyone commenting here is using this as another forum to air their presidential politics…this is the number one reason why you should vote for McCain!

Obama would have to first do a poll to see what everyone in the world thinks he should do. Then he would require an environmental commission investigate the potential environmental harm in the event of US interference. He would also promptly set up a personal meeting with Putin to beg him to reconsider. Ultimately Obama would give a rousting speech on hope and promptly send in the social workers with tire gages and condoms to hand out.

You think I’m joking read “Obama Nation.”

SoCal Patriot   August 12th, 2008 - 4:57 am

“Of course Terry sides with Putin and the other not-so-ex-Communists.”
Of course. Terry is a code-pink liberal and communist.

White supremacist scum will never be more than scum…

Airwick   August 12th, 2008 - 6:50 am

Don’t you mean, “anti-Semite scum will never be more than scum…”? You are off you message.

Airwick   August 12th, 2008 - 7:00 am

“The Russian invasion of Georgia is a breath of dank air from the rancid past. It reeks of spheres of interest and Metternichian understandings of how the world works and how power is exercised. It is also a refreshing reminder that sprinkling BMW dealerships hither and yon in this or that country does not, in the end, change the culture all that much. Russia, as my grandmother could have told George W. Bush, always fights dirty.

The reality of old has been greeted as shockingly new in Washington. The Bush administration’s policy has been to seek NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine, another former Soviet republic. This is yet another example of policy disconnected from national interests, not to mention reality. Russian bombs have rained down on Georgia. Would we go to war to stop that? No way. But that is the very reason for NATO. You hit one of our guys and we’re going to hit you back. Britain? You bet. France? Certainly. Germany? Yes, indeed. Georgia? Give us some time to think about it.

World War I, whose origins are still open to debate, started in the Balkans, a remote region of Europe that was not worth even a minor war. The Caucasian region is similarly remote, another ethnic hodgepodge. It would make no sense to turn the Caucasus into a latter-day Balkans, and it makes no sense, either, to demonize Russia for doing what it has always done. The United States needs Moscow to continue its cooperation on Iran. In addition, we have to bear in mind what we would do under similar circumstances. In a way, the Caucasus is Russia’s Latin America — a sphere of influence asserted by its own version of the Monroe Doctrine.”

This sort of puts things in context.

T0AD   August 12th, 2008 - 10:12 am

I’m starting to think that Georgian officials started this fight knowing that Russia would strike them back. This looks like an attempt to take Russia away from the Iran debate. Russia has said that it doesn’t want the US to invade Iran. Now that they are busy only China stands in the way of Cheney’s dream and they to are busy with the Olympic events.

On another note this goes out to all those that oppose Russia defending itself. A nations politics doesn’t make their actions right or wrong in this instance. I don’t support communism or socialism I know they don’t work. But above that is the fact that Georgia attacked Russian troops and citizens in South Ossettia.

If Iran had attacked our troops openly in Iraq. What do you think our response would be. We would demolish them.

The MSM is really doing a propaganda spin on this whole conflict. They talk about Russia invading Georgia then they talk about casualties. People put the to facts together when they see the report. If they read the articles you would see that the casualties were caused by the Georgians in South Ossetia.

BREAKING NEWS: CNN took footage of the aftermath in Tblisi where Georgia decided to make its power grab. But they claimed that it was Gori in Georgia and said the Russians did it.

T0AD   August 12th, 2008 - 12:00 pm

^
Sorry I meant Tskhinvali not Tblisi

Airwick   August 12th, 2008 - 1:04 pm

The above quote was from Richard Cohen, Washington Post, an excellent writer.

SoCal Patriot   August 12th, 2008 - 2:14 pm

“Don’t you mean, “anti-Semite scum will never be more than scum…”? You are off you message.”
No retard, white supremacist scum are also anti-Semites. It’s on message because it’s more accurate in terry’s case. As usual, you’re still stuck on stupid and on the wrong side, like the code-pink liberal you are.

Arnold Harris   August 12th, 2008 - 4:18 pm

The sovereignty of the Gruzim means about as much to me in 2008 as the sovereignty of the Mandan, Lakota, Sioux and Blackfoot indian tribes mattered to the government of the United States in 1876. We wanted to take their land in order to populate it with our own people, exploit its resources, and drive away or kill off anybody who could have contested the issue with our leaders of that era.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

We won because we had the power to enforce our will over the Indians, and we broke them in the process. That — and no other reason — is why we operate the United States of America in 48 states from coast to coast in a temperate climate zone, plus our alaskan colony in the Arctic and our hawaiian colony in the central Pacific.

I am certain the modern government of great Russia will treat the defeated and humbled Gruzim with infinitely more compassion and light-handedness than we ever accorded the degraded chieftains and warrior classes of the tribes of Indians whose societies we smashed and destroyed on the great plains of North American only 120 years ago.

Our actions in aiding and arming the Mujahadeen in soviet-controlled Afghanistan under Reagan and G W H Bush helped undermine the Russian presence in that land, and with it, the Soviet Union as a whole. Now we are still in the process of paying a major national price for that unwise intervention in someone else’s back yard. There was no al-Qaeda in Afghanistan until we unwisely helped weaken the Russian control of that country. And the muslim arab attack on New York and Washington on September 11, 2001 was just a small part of the price we are still paying for that policy.

I for one welcome back the re-emergence of Russian national power. If only to protect the stability of their own borders, they will do more than any meaningless collection of NATOs and other useless diplomatic fictions, for purposes of making sure the peace is kept in eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and among the turkish republics of south central Asia.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

SoCal Patriot   August 12th, 2008 - 4:27 pm

Leave it to mental midgets to compare then to now…

Gregory Scott   August 12th, 2008 - 4:48 pm

Arnold, why not move to a less guilt-stricken country, like Burma? You would surely be much happier there.

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