‘This Is Genocide’: American Witness Says U.S. and Georgia to Answer for Violence

“I thought that since U.S. is supporting Georgia there would be some control over the situation in South Ossetia and that there would be a peaceful solution to the conflict. But what is happening there now it’s not just war, but war crimes," an American citizen living in South Ossetia said.

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August 10, 2008 at 11:34 pm - Russia Today
Dateline: South Ossetia
Jim   August 10th, 2008 - 11:48 pm

Oh yeah! He’s not biased! He has a hat on that says “Russia” and chose South Ossetia as a family vacation spot. I hear the rats are lovely in South Ossetia this time of year.

ObamaSideliners   August 11th, 2008 - 12:33 am

Call Europe. We are done. Time to raise taxes, dismantle the military and provide the masses with free health care and a cushy retirement. We want to be like Europe.

Get a helmet world, America is going to the sidelines. Love us now?

Love you, Obama.

Bob Scofield   August 11th, 2008 - 1:23 am

I hope Bush & Cheney do start World War III against Russia, and we have a draft, and all the chicken hawk wingnuts who comment on this site get conscripted and forced to fight over there. We’ll see how much you guys love war then.

Justin   August 11th, 2008 - 1:39 am

I especially love the reporter making it a point to refer to South Ossetia as a republic…it just tells you all you need to know about that “news” outlet.

Joe   August 11th, 2008 - 1:43 am

Andrew Breitbart, why are you publicizing this RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA?

Are you a total dupe?

Scott k   August 11th, 2008 - 2:17 am

20 years ago Russia was our enemy, today they are every bit as much an enemy. Don’t be fooled. Communism never ended there. it only went underground. Russia will do anything it can to harm the USA. Just like their comrades, the DNC.

John Campbell   August 11th, 2008 - 4:42 am

One mixed up mess, but listening to an alleged reporter proclaim South Ossetia to be a Republic tells the real story of who is doing what. The more I hear the more I think it’s about time we stood up to Russia instead of kissing up.

Obama   August 11th, 2008 - 4:56 am

Bob you moron why don’t you go live in a place where freedom isn’t taken for granted, it might educate you in ways you surely need. Your “head in the sand and hope it goes away” left wing outlook ends up killing more innocents by inviting aggressors.
Your hatred of President Bush has twisted that little ignorant cliche of a mind you have.

Sean   August 11th, 2008 - 6:56 am

So all of you know it all’s. Is Russia today a Christian country or a Communist country.

You really need to know before you spout off about something you don’t know about!

Hint: Is Putin a commie or a Christian???

syn   August 11th, 2008 - 7:04 am

“Is Russia today a Christian country or a Communist country.”

I realize for some Communism is a religion however, it is not so the question is void for being senseless.

Andre   August 11th, 2008 - 7:15 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSCF0JEDl8

Do your homework. Joe Mestas received a South Ossetian passport in October 2006. Interestingly, the reporter says that Mestas was simply there on vacation when in fact he resides there.

Either A) He lied about being an American and about being on vacation to get his face on TV, B) He was a known commodity to a Russian (government owned) press outlet and was called up to help out with propoganda.

Consider had the story been about a “former American who moved to South Ossetia” versus an “American citizen who was vacationing in South Ossetia.” The former lacks credibility in terms of coming from a neutral source while the latter is bound to be labeled as Russian propoganda.

007   August 11th, 2008 - 8:32 am

We need more Genocide!!

How long are we going to wait here in the US with our blacks? Until the violence goes from 39 to 1 black on white to 100 to 1, 1000 to 1?

There are many many people on this earth that deserve a one way ticket off it!! How many people got scalped going cross country last week? Exactly.

Shut up and let the strong survive and screw the rest!!

Dr Michael   August 11th, 2008 - 8:34 am

GOOD! I’m glad everyone has a chance to see this Russian sympathizer jump on the propaganda bandwagon. This no good socialist follower needs to have his passport revoked and never be allowed into the U.S. again. Maybe he can get some of his socialist friends over at MoveOn.org to join him. What a TOOL!

dswilli   August 11th, 2008 - 9:02 am

Bob you’re a coward. No one especially people who’ve been in one enjoy war. However sometimes it comes down to choices to either stand and fight or die cowering. You and your ilk would have stood by as Hitler exterminated Jews. People today mistake peace for the absence of war. Using this half witted definition the people of North Korea are presently enjoying peace. Never mind that any minute you may be dragged out and shot for supposedly not showing proper respect to a Kim Jong Il poster. People like Bob would cower in a corner as intruders ransack his home. All the while not defending himself and his family. Depending on the good graces of those who’ve invaded his home.

Jason   August 11th, 2008 - 9:09 am

Wow, George Bush is responsible for hurricanes, Russian military conflicts, and wildfires. Wow! He must have magical powers. What an idiot this guy is.

Sean   August 11th, 2008 - 9:23 am

Putin is a Christin. Now look and see who are ALL of the Russian oligarchs that raped the economy when “the wall” fell. What is their race? Hint: Most of them fled to israel!

What was the majority race of the Russian Communists and those that turned Russia into a Communist country during the Bolshevik Revolution!

Who is it that Putin has vowed thet will never turn Russia into a Communist country again?

Oh, why has israel got $1 Billion $$ invested into Georgia. See the dots? See why the western media is portraying the Russians as the bad guys?

Same as why the U.S. is in the middle east warS!! Same as why the U.S. owned media calls for all the wars for the entire benefit of israel!

Surprise–none of this is happenstance!

jbh50   August 11th, 2008 - 9:26 am

Blame America. Bash America. Its the democrat’s platform. I bet someone amongst the dems leadership will come out this week blaming America for this invasion….

dswilli   August 11th, 2008 - 9:29 am

Sean your argument might be more persuasive if you idiots didn’t blame Israel for EVERYTHING! Drought in the Midwest, Jews did it! War breaks out in Georgia, Jews did it! Your cat gets pregnant, Jews did it! The reason no one takes you serious is because you sound like a bunch of hillbillies. Stop assigning blame to Jews for every one of life’s ills. Maybe then people will take you seriously. I know I’m part of the Jewish conspiracy right? Not quite I’m Baptist.

dswilli   August 11th, 2008 - 9:34 am

Nothing quite like an American leftist willingly pimping themselves for the evil empire.

Mac-101   August 11th, 2008 - 10:22 am

Sean, Putin is niether a communist nor Christian. He may go through the motions of being a Russian Orthodox Christian, but that is only a vehicle to increase patriotism. He is a dirty disgusting Trans National Kapitalist who has stolen somewhere around 40 BILLION out of Russia. HE and his comrades hve made Moscow the city with the 2nd largest number of BILLIONAIRES. I beleive Russia is the country with the 4th largest number of billionaires. The elites are buying super mega yauts while the average Russian outside the major cities is lucky to have running water and electricity. The have to send their daughters around the world to provide “COMFORT” to disgusting foreign men. Ya, he really has Russias interset in mind!

T0AD   August 11th, 2008 - 12:16 pm

Here’s the facts:

Georgia attacks the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

This region is patrolled by UN peacekeeping troops. And Russian peacekeeping troops.

Georgia attacked the russian peackeeping troops.

The geargians killed many Russian citizens by attacking South Ossetia.

What would you do if this was happening here.

Sean   August 11th, 2008 - 12:20 pm

“Vladimir Who? the Rise of a Disciplined Romantic
Many politicians come to high office relatively unknown: look at the long history of surprising American Presidents in this century alone, from Truman to Clinton. And biography is not necessarily destiny. But bits and pieces of biography are almost all we have to assess Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

Born in 1952, toward the end of the cruel Stalin years, to a lower-class family, Putin was the child of a religious mother who survived the siege of Leningrad and a faithful Communist Party father invalided out of the army with multiple shrapnel wounds. He was a late child, born when his mother was 41 years old. His two brothers died young, one shortly after birth, the other of diphtheria during World War II. Although Vladimir Sr. was party secretary at the train-car factory where he worked,

Volodya’s mother had him secretly baptized in the Russian Orthodox faith.

Putin, in beneficent Orthodox Tsar-like manner, often makes appearances with the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Alexy II. In so doing, Putin affirms the Church’s political-religious tradition of a symphony between Church & State. On November 18 2007, Putin met with Alexy II and other hierarchs of the Church in St Alexander’s Chapel in the Kremlin. At this meeting Putin promised:

— “Orthodoxy has always played a special role in shaping our statehood, our culture, our morals. One should not completely draw a line between the culture and the Church. Of course, in our country the Church is separate from the State. But in the soul and the history of our people it’s all together. It always has been and always will be.”

In another political/religious affirmation of Russia’s “symphony” between Church & State, Putin appeared with Alexy II at a Kremlin meeting in November of 2007. At this meeting, Putin was photographed with Alexy II who called for “tighter controls on the content of television and radio broadcasts” saying they were promoting “vicious behavior.”

In Russia, everyone understands the meaning of Putin’s photographs with others – the above photograph included. It translates into Putin’s agreement with those personages. And Putin surely is in “agreement” with Patriarch Alexy II in building a healthy society based on Church tradition – just as he has promised so many times.

S ean   August 11th, 2008 - 1:25 pm

And Yes, the joows are to blame for MOST of the worlds political problems!!!!

Putin pays constant obeisance to a determined inner discipline. He is a believer and often reads the Bible.”

The Joowish owned Wall Street Journal also recently published The Perils Of Putinism scorning Putin for preserving “order and stability” which the Joowish Media works against. The Joowish ‘political scientist’ Arnold Beichman published an article under the same title on Hoover Digest comparing Putin to Ivan the Terrible.

But Vladimir Putin knows all about the Joows. That is why in a November 2007 speech to Russian Military Cadets he said:

There are those who would like to build a unipolar world who would like to rule all of humanity themselves.

JOOS FEAR PUTIN’S VISION OF A CHRISTIAN RUSSIA

IMMEDIATLY AFTER the inauguration of Putin’s chosen President Dmitri Medvedev on May 7 2008 a Russian Orthodox Church service followed. Medvedev, who admits being baptized “at a mature age” and who also denies rumours of being Joowish affirmed his commitment to the Church saying, “The state’s special relations with the Russian Orthodox Church will be maintained and further developed to the benefit of the Fatherland” Here.

Just prior to this, Medvedev said in his April 27 2008 Easter Sunday Message, “The growing role of the Russian Orthodox Church opens new possibilities for the cooperation of the state and the Church in resolving current questions of the moral health of the nation in bringing up the young generation”.

Putin sent his own message on Easter Sunday 2008 saying, “The state will continue to support the Church in all its work to enlighten the moral education of our citizens, strengthen the influence of family values, and consolidate unity in the Orthodox community.”

Immediately the Joowish Media sprung into action with, “Putin’s message could deepen worries among Russians wary of efforts to press Russian Orthodox teachings on children.” But the only “Russians” that Putin’s message would worry are Joows.

Putin & Medvedev have already begun the enlightenment of the youth with a new Orthodoxy 101 Curriculum in Russian Public Schools. And this is what the Joows fear most.

Tatra Mtns   August 11th, 2008 - 2:08 pm

Russia is pathetic. The russian news media is now a propaganda tool for the Putin regime. Afer all, they have murdered all the independent minded journalists already.

Mempey   August 11th, 2008 - 2:58 pm

He is not an American. The video and audio are not just off sink they independent of one another.

The man is in a baseball cap and print shirt designed to make him look “American”. This is just sloppy Russian propaganda.

ronjiort   August 11th, 2008 - 3:06 pm

I have always wondered how stupid you Americans are. Discussing here who is communist and who is christian.
More than 2000 innocent Russian citizens were killed sleeping in their beds by Georgian GRAD missiles, you silly inhumane creatures.
I hope 9/11 is not the end. I VERY hope one day many more American innocent citizens will experience what people in Dresden, Tokio, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Pyongyang, Hanoi, Lee Mai, Bagdad, Belgrad experienced. God damn your country.

Farg   August 11th, 2008 - 3:12 pm

Please excuse Sean. He’s a member of a hate group that dislikes everyone except his own kind. He tends to get little nutty sometimes. You can find his comments in just about every article on this web site, and it’s all the same garbage.

So, will the US be considered cowards if we don’t get more involved than we already are in this conflict? We’re cowards if we don’t start a war with Russia? Please explain. The Johnny-1-note warmongering stance is not the answer.

RobertX   August 11th, 2008 - 3:43 pm

Russia’s new Afghanistan..Putin really stuck his foot in this time. What’s his name, the guy that’s really supposed to be running Russia, where’s he hiding at. I’m all for tanglin’ with Russia. Their officers are idiots and troops are incompetent. In WWII their tactic was to throw more bodies at the Germans than the Germans had bullets….lotta brain power their.

ronjiort   August 11th, 2008 - 4:02 pm

US is already involved in this war for all it is worth. Americans supply Georgians with weapon, equipment and advisors. American military satellites aim Georgian missiles at Russian troops. American military aircraft transports Georgian troops from Iraq. American media including CNN ABC FOX and others organizes anti-Russian hysteria in western society.

Isn’t it enough?

Michael   August 11th, 2008 - 4:12 pm

Russia is calling themselves peace keepers and comparing this to our operation in Iraq. They claim Georgia was committing war crimes. One question? When did the UN security council vote for the resolution concerning the war crimes? What does the alleged war crimes have to do with bombing the airport? Georgia has 7 war planes, I don’t think Russia needs to destroy all of the infrastructure to have air superiority. If something isn’t done to stop this, no country can rely on an alliance with the west.

RobertX   August 11th, 2008 - 4:13 pm

This is the beginning of a tailspin by Putin and Russia. They screwed up big time. Putin has himself and Russia stuck between a rock and hard place. Putin has no way out. That Kleptocracy called the Russian federation is in dire straits and they can’t see it for their egos.

RobertX   August 11th, 2008 - 4:18 pm

Russia has a 1 dimensional economy..oil, and only oil is their bread and butter. Falling oil prices, and war…watch their bank account dwindle. Stupid crooked Russians.

ronjiort   August 11th, 2008 - 4:29 pm

Michael
Georgians killed 2000 Russian citizens. We don’t need UN security council to recognize it as a crime. As you did after 2500 American citizens have been killed in New-York.

peter c   August 11th, 2008 - 5:12 pm

The media here in America is now saying Russia invaded and Russia started this.But the truth is is that georia started the invasion,the killing and Russia came to the aid of russsians living in the desputed area.Then Georgia goes running home crying and excepts us to save them.
The only good thing in all this was that Obama’s response was a joke and Mccain’s was presidential.Obama wanted to run to his vacation and spent 3 minutes saying NOTHING!
So , who do you really want at the helm when stuff like this happens? Obama and his “Let’s have tea” appeassment? Or McCain who is a strong leader?

Sean   August 11th, 2008 - 5:27 pm

It is all about the Caspian Sea pipeline that lies 55KM within Georgia’s border.

isreal already has $1 billion invested there and have 1000 joows there. The U.S. is carrying the joows water again and Russia said it ain’t going to happen!!

alan   August 11th, 2008 - 7:59 pm

‘Russia Today’ is a Russian government owned and operated media outlet. it is PROPAGANDA. Go to wikipedia and look up Russia Today and you will see. This is old-style Russian Putin KGB propaganda. Welcome to 1955…in 2008.

Sean   August 11th, 2008 - 8:14 pm

If you are looking for truth you don’t go to wikipedia.

The information there is screened and deleted if it doesn’t meet the wishes of the owner. Do a little research and see!

figurd it out   August 11th, 2008 - 8:24 pm

When you consider that the guy being interviewed was from Florida, it all makes sense. Do you know any Floridian who likes Georgians? The people from Tennessee sure don’t like Georgians (remember last year’s fight over who owned the lakes and streams?). Maybe some South Carolinians will stand up for Georgians, but not very many. How did the Russians get all the way over here to Georgia anyway?

David   August 11th, 2008 - 9:05 pm

ronjiort,

These people should have assimilated with Georgia or left for Russia after the break up of the Soviet Union. They are just allowing Russia to keep a foothold in Georgia. Everyone knows that there is an oil pipeline there. Everyone knows that there is a warm water port there. This doesn’t excuse genocide or war crimes, but we know what this is about.

Doc   August 11th, 2008 - 10:50 pm

People in the former Soviet republics had until 2000 to elect to have a Russian passport to replace their USSR passport, or to take a passport from the republics in which they were living. It didn’t matter whether it was Georgia, Azerbajian, Uzbekistan, or any of the other republics — that was the process. Since the South Ossetians rebelled against Georgia after the USSR breakup and wanted to be part of Russia, one should assume that the majority opted for the Russian passport option. To say now that Russia has offered citizenship to people as if there was something unusual about the process is disingenuous to say the least. As for the fighting, hopefully it ends with an arrangement that stops it from happening again, with recognition of the right of self-determination (Kosovo, Bosnia, etc)

Michael   August 11th, 2008 - 11:07 pm

This is clear the worst piece of propaganda I have ever seen. Anyone who mistakes this for news is clearly an idiot.

Doc   August 11th, 2008 - 11:19 pm

David,

The “warm water port” argument does not apply here, as Russia has always had ports in the Black Sea and has extensive coastline between the Ukraine and Abkhazia. That argument was historical and pertained to the fear of the British Empire that the Russians wanted to take part of India (now the Pakistan area) in order to have warm water port access.

Sean in CA   August 12th, 2008 - 12:24 am

With the Russians taking over Georgia now, does that mean the Braves are officially out of the running in the N.L. East?

Toby   August 12th, 2008 - 1:19 am

This looney is saying we should get out of it before we even get in it. Or maybe he is under duress and is in a round-about way saying we should get over there fast. I think I saw him blinking “Bomb Moscow Now!” in morse code with his eyes, so the Russian TV crew would unknowingly broadcast it. Let’s go.

Stuart   August 12th, 2008 - 5:30 am

This is Soviet Propaganda. Do not let that FSB crony back into the United States. If his wife saw a place bombed close to her parents house, they must have been rebels. If you had armed insurrection against the United States in the west by Mexican rebels who wanted to take away Arizona, you would not get a very clear view what is happening by interviewing a Canadian traitor with a Mexican wife who was wearing a La Raza hat.

This is disappointing that Breitbart is duped into thinking that these lies are newsworthy.

Stuart   August 12th, 2008 - 5:32 am

He is also not a WITNESS to anything. Breitbart ran a headline that is a lie. The traitor to the United States of America was already in RUSSIA with his heart and his back of money from the FSB. When you steal companies like Gazprom, you have lots more to pay off traitors with.

Georgia should get Lithuania, Ukraine, Estonia, Poland, Latvia etc to ready the troops to roll back the Russian imperialism.

howardhofelich   August 12th, 2008 - 6:29 am

Lets not be so quick to condemn an American citizen for expressing his opinion. And lets not try to restart the Cold War because our economy is going into the toilet. Georgia was stupid to attack S. Ossetia, and now they are gonna pay the consequences. We once had the Monroe Doctrine as our doctine of keeping our neighbors in line, and Im sure the Russians dont want a US satellite on thier border…lets jsut get a cease fire and let the smoke clear, heal the wounded and let the Russians sort it out..We are broke and cannot fight anymore unwinnable wars. Stay home America and mind your own fences. I dont buy this as propaganda..this is real news.

howardhofelich   August 12th, 2008 - 7:08 am

I bet Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania,Estonia, Latvia, all the Stans, are shitting their pants right now.
Good timing for the the Russians, letting the Americans know right up front that its not gonna be peaches and cream for their ( possible?) dream boy (first black) president…and NATO and Europe superpower is not gonna run roughshod over the Ruskis and swallow up all of their little satellite states.
Leave them alone..those poor people have been invaded so many times…and their economies repeatedly wrecked…I think the core of this entire matter is that the American Oil Companies and their Israeli cohorts have got their fingers in a big oil pipeline in Georgia and they intend to try to fix the price (corner the market) in Europe by bypassing Russian pipelines…lets just leave Eastern Europe be and let them try to rebuild their shattered economies…we should not get involved, unless you want Russians in Cuba again. With a weak president, the Dems will undo all the magic done by Reagan. Im tired of this stupidity and Im not gonna send my sons to fight for some stupid world government UN crime syndicate. For you idiots out there, stop killing our young men so you can give jobs to mexicans and destroy the American family run by real men..Im not gonna let the government destabize my life ever again..so for you people who want another cold war..go bugger yourself..you aint getting my sons, even if the enemy is crawling up the beach.

Toby   August 13th, 2008 - 12:49 am

Howard,
1. They would not be building it if the countries involved did not want it. Also, there is no way they are going to ‘corner’ the oil market in Europe with one pipeline.
2. It is kind of hard for the Eastern European countries to rebuild their economies (even with big bad American companies help) when there are Russian bombs falling on them, don’t you think?
3. Let’s see now, if I were a Georgian, which would I prefer? – A. American pipeline (generating revenue for the country). or B. Russian bombs.
4. Reagan didn’t do ‘magic’ (you’re thinking of Obama), Reagan broke the USSR with God, Guns and Guts.

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