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This is completely uncalled for. Time for “profiling”, and don’t give me “how about Tim McVeigh” crap. There don’t seem to be any Americans who are willing to die for their beliefs, but we all know that Muslim terrorists don’t think twice about killing innocent victims as well as themselves.

This is only the beginning people, if we complain more, then the US will put another “Shoe Bomber” or “Anal Plug Bomber” on board to put more fear into you, so you’ll agree to this.
I fly often and find that pretty women in tight clothes get patted down much more frequently than overweight men in baggy clothes. Go fig.

Olddog,
You are half right. It is time to get rid of these moronic security check stations. They have screened millions of people and have yet to thwart a SINGLE terrorist act. Lose them and then lose the Dept. of Homeland (In) Security.

There is no reason to justify humiliating someone in public if at all. You detect something find the source,enough with the gestapo tactics already!

I’m in my late 60’s and a little hard of hearing. No one would describer me as threatening, belligerent or aggressive. I am always polite. When i didn’t understand immediately what a TSA officer said, I was yelled at, pushed around and a old video camera that had belonged to my just deceased brother and just given to me by his best friend at his memorial service was seized, taken into the back and returned 20 minutes later with its top broken off and the wires to its battery pack cut. The camera isn’t worth much because of its age, but has great sentimental value. I feel violated.

The guy in line in front of me, a fisherman, had a fish packed in ice. He was being completely compliant and polite. Yet he got yelled at and the officer said, “What the hell are you bringing a fish through here for? They took him in the back and I don’t know what happened to him next.

&%ck TSA!!!

Hmm. 16 year old girl sets off the metal detector and she gets her buttocks and breast groped? Where do I sign up to be a TSA agent.

We are at WAR! Too many of us have forgotten that due to the Liberal media and the Dems.Better to be searched like this than a terrorist bomber on board killing lots of people.It’s an inconvience but take a look at what we had to go through during WW2…. gas rationing…food rationing….lights out stuff and much more making this search stuff nothing.
The Islamic terrorists want us to be this complain….they expected it….they use it.They expected us to cry for the illegal aliens …this is also used by them to get here.Many of them studyed or lived here.The know the sofness we have.So, be strong.Let the TSA do their job.If they get out of hand manke a complaint through the right channels.Wev must be strong to overcome these Islamic Killers.

You have to understand who runs the TSA. The corrupt HomeLand Security run the the joowish Zionist Chertoff backed up by the joow Zionist Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey. These two released the jumping joows on 9/11 without allowing F.B.I. interogation.

They flew back to israel and told their story to the joowish press.

The TSA subjected me to a search which greatly endangered my life on the end of my journey.

They need to be subjected to the rule of law. If that doesn’t work then they are corrupt and need
to be subjected to what the Bill of Rights allows the Citizens to do to correct a corrupt government.

Remember the 2nd Amendment!

As an aside read this:

“THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN ON RADIO”
HAL TURNER: UNCENSORED AND UNRESTRAINED
WANTS BARAK OBAMA KILLED AND WHITE$TO RULE

“Associated Content” writer Gary Tom has published a recent interview with me. They describe it as follows: “an exclusive and very controversial interview held between Turner and “The G-man” on July 20, 2008, and it should be noted that many are going to find the content to be extremely offensive and unsettling. With that said, Associated Content now presents what is sure to be the most provocative, shocking and disturbing interview anywhere on the Internet.”

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/896101/hal_turner_uncensored_and_unrestrained.html?cat=49

All this TSA stuff is crap in my opinion. The Israelis do not operate like this at all and don’t have a problem finding the “right” people to keep off their airlines. They have a better record than anyone in the business. They don’t take away your nail clippers and they don’t use plastic forks either. The first and only hijack of an El Al Israeli airline was in 1968. The TSA knows all this and chooses to ignore the methods real experts in the business use. The Brits have 100 years experience with Northern Irish terrorists and we ignore their methods as well.

One well known commentator said (paraphrased) that “the TSA hires the very people we spend most our lives avoiding to shove probes up our a$$ and grope our crotches and breasts”. Most of them couldn’t think their way out of a paper sack if they had to. Obviously their bosses are no better and actually are the root cause of bad behavior.

Sorry, Peter, none of us has “forgotten” anything. I “remember”, for example, that none of the 9-11 hijackers smuggled anything onto the aircraft that day—they were allowed to possess the items (box cutters) that they later used as weapons to take control of the planes. Most of these TSA types are wannabe cops that couldn’t make the grade for one reason or other (most likely mental deficiencies). The only thing that they have accomplished to date is inconvenience and abuse several million law abiding citizens. As I mentioned earlier, NOT ONE document case of a foiled hijacking can be attributed to these incompetent trolls. It’s time to remove ALL these screening stations and go back to the way we traveled pre-911. You recall back then that there were two “rules” when hijackings took place. The first was that the passengers and crew did what the hijackers wanted. The second was that no one got hurt. They broke Rule Number Two so Rule Number One no longer applies. I submit to you that if someone were to attempt to seize an aircraft with a more formidable weapon than a box cutter he/she would be pummeled by virtually everyone aboard. 9-11 will never happen again—not because of “enhanced” security, but simply because no one aboard will let them do it again.

I’m shocked that Peter would willingly give up every right he has for the very subjective feeling of security [which a TSA treatment manifestly does not succeed in providing].

These people are drunk with the power that finally people have to listen to them and that their opinion on any issue now matters.

They relish in the humiliation of people every single day. They provide no added benefit. The 9/11 saw is getting exceedingly old. Is it really necessary to humiliate the elderly and infirm because they can’t respond fast enough? Must the privacy of a person be invaded because they have a physical disability? Is it excusable or acceptable in any way that a supervisor would triumphantly yell “I have power, I have power, I have power”? Is this the kind of person you want to relinquish your rights to? If so, that is your prerogative. Don’t force it on me, I do not want it, I do not like it, I don’t need it and quite frankly I am uncomfortable with the fact that people who are afraid make decisions for me.
Fear is a bad advisor.

If this was the America that I grew up loving it would look the world in the eye and say: “I flatly refuse to be scared into giving up my rights, I am not intimidated, you will not change the way I live my life.”
Instead an entire administration has been called into being to maintain and reinforce paranoia on a level not seen since the cold war [in Russia].

And the way it is implemented is even more worrisome. The people at those checkpoints are not the people I trust with my rights, they can’t have them. I refuse to go through life scared. The TSA is a far greater nuisance and danger than any terrorist will ever be: there is far greater chance to be inconvenienced, humiliated and attacked with a taser by a TSA agent than the chance that a terrorist will attack me.

@Peter: there was rationing in the second world war, even then no measures as draconian as what the TSA is doing were imposed. What is that telling you? And ‘being at war” Are you serious? When is an Iraqi coming to America to do to you what the US military is doing to them?

@Airiwck:

If you believe that no terrorist acts have been thwarted, you’re an idiot.

“They have screened millions of people and have yet to thwart a SINGLE terrorist act.”

@TSA victim:

You’re pretty naive if you think that someone looking or acting like you couldn’t possibly be a risk. You need to learn more about the bad guys.

People like you are part of the problem.

“I’m in my late 60’s and a little hard of hearing. No one would describer me as threatening, belligerent or aggressive.”

You people making your STUPID comments are still retards, but there’s a glimmer of reality shining through your crap.

The TSA has extremely low hiring standards, and a very poor training program, poor supervision and inadequate pay. It goes without saying that the best & brightest need not apply for these positions. Combine that with a totally clueless flying public, and all of these problems are to be expected.

Too many abuses have been committed, and since they continue to happen, it makes me believe that maybe the TSA just isn’t getting it.

If you think that your disability, gender, or age makes you untouchable, then you’re naive.

If there’s to be a body search, then it has to be done in private, with a same-sex searcher, and with probable cause.

@Airwick:

>> Sorry, Peter, none of us has “forgotten” anything. I “remember”, for example, that none of the 9-11 hijackers smuggled anything onto the aircraft that day—they were allowed to possess the items (box cutters) that they later used as weapons to take control of the planes.

And if you think that’s the only method at their disposal, you’re a fool.

>> Most of these TSA types are wannabe cops that couldn’t make the grade for one reason or other (most likely mental deficiencies).

You may be right. That would make you well-qualified for the job.

>> The only thing that they have accomplished to date is inconvenience and abuse several million law abiding citizens.

You don’t know what events have been thwarted, since such activities won’t be publicized. And you’re a fool (already determined) if you think that “several million law abiding citizens” have been abused.

>> As I mentioned earlier, NOT ONE document case of a foiled hijacking can be attributed to these incompetent trolls.

Cite your proof. You won’t. You can’t.

>> It’s time to remove ALL these screening stations and go back to the way we traveled pre-911.

As we’ve already established, you’re a fool. The bad guys are constantly probing our security systems for weaknesses, and trying different ways to get around them.

>> You recall back then that there were two “rules” when hijackings took place. The first was that the passengers and crew did what the hijackers wanted. The second was that no one got hurt. They broke Rule Number Two so Rule Number One no longer applies.

Again, you show your cluelessness. Thousands of people have been injured or killed by hijackers over the years.

>> I submit to you that if someone were to attempt to seize an aircraft with a more formidable weapon than a box cutter he/she would be pummeled by virtually everyone aboard. 9-11 will never happen again—not because of “enhanced” security, but simply because no one aboard will let them do it again.

This may very well be true, but it doesn’t justify relaxing or abandoning security procedures.

Kid, you need to get back in your hole. Get back to us when you’ve been around for a while.

Bobo,
When I was a kid growing up I had a friend with a Gibbon named Bobo. He had a greater grasp of reason than you. Your logic is flawed. I DON’T have to site an instance where TSA has NOT foiled a hijacking; YOU have to provide an instance where they HAVE. You are asking me to prove a negative. It doesn’t work that way. Oops!

The “bad guys” are constantly “probing” our security? How? By smuggling $100 an ounce perfume onto the aircraft?

“Thousands” of people have been killed by hijackers over the years? Where did you get your data? There have been only isolated instances where hijackers have murdered individuals. Mass killings on the scale of “thousands” have never occurred prior to 9-11. Once again, back up your ridiculous statements with some solid data. You, of course, cannot.
The bottom line, of course, is future safety and the need for these elaborate check points. I wrote,” I submit to you that if someone were to attempt to seize an aircraft with a more formidable weapon than a box cutter he/she would be pummeled by virtually everyone aboard. 9-11 will never happen again—not because of “enhanced” security, but simply because no one aboard will let them do it again.” Your response was as illogical as the rest of your posting, “This may very well be true, but it doesn’t justify relaxing or abandoning security procedures.” This is EXACTLY why relaxing these draconian “security” procedures should occur—they are impractical, are incredibly expensive, make no sense, and derive little (if any) benefit. What part of that don’t YOU understand?

By the way I am a 60 year old “kid”. If you want to live in a nation governed by “1984” tactics due to your fear then that is your problem. I prefer to NOT let these terrorists win by acquiescing to this nonsense.

You must go to the SoCal Patriot school of debate—if you can’t win with information or logic, resort to name calling and insults.

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Back up and look at the bigger picture, guys.
Drug prohibition gave our local law enforcement no-knock access to our homes and forfeiture gave them money. President Clinton also advanced the nationalization of our law enforcement agencies by paying cops from the national treasury. Bush only sealed the deal, placing all responders, down to the first responder citizens, under ‘Home Land Security’… Don’t we remember the movies where law enforcement in Mexico are ‘federalies’? Where is the cop on the beat that the kids used to regard as a good, fair and just guy? We are a police state and the TSA is only a small part of the big picture.
Who are we fighting in Afghanistan? Didn’t we go in to catch Al Qaeda, maybe 300-600 people? Some got killed, some got away, like Bin Ladin. Why are we now fighting the Taliban? They didn’t cause 9/11? Oil pipelines.. and also Kosovo is a pipeline route, just in case you think this is partisan! WAKE UP! ..

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I am an Australian and have been a traveller who has traversed the States on holiday for the past 8 years annually. I have 2 replaced knees and a replaced hip. I always set off the alarm. To date I have been treated with kindness and respect by all those who have examined me for this situation. I have never seen any of the conduct that has been complained of in the above article. Rather a diligent search than a midair calamity

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