If it weren’t for the Surge, which Obama strongly opposed every step of the way, there would not be an Iraq today to host Obama’s photo op.
DaveJuly 21st, 2008 - 10:00 am
Even the wording that comes ot of this administration is false.
A “surge” is a term to describe a focused movement of EXISTING FORCES to obtain an objecive.
What we really had was an “escalation”,that’s when you have to add troops due to the perception that you’re losing.
libsukbadJuly 21st, 2008 - 10:15 am
The obama world tour commences, with all of his MSM groupies along for the ride. This shows just how dumbed down our nea led public schools are to allow so many ignorant, naive people in this country to think he’s anything more than an empty suit. A disaster waiting to happen, mostly propped up by star struck college students who don’t yet know the burden of excessive taxation and loss of freedoms(but they will).
Steve TJuly 21st, 2008 - 10:16 am
This is the second time the leader of the Republican party (first Bush, now McCain) has claimed “victory” in Iraq.
Even McCain couldn’t describe it as more than a “fragile victory”.
The truth is that no one from the media or either major party is saying how that “victory” was obtained.
Isn’t is possible that the terrorists (remember them?) have their focus back to Afghanistan, thus casualties are rising there again?
The original invasion of Iraq drew the terrorists to that country. The surge helped push them out but they just simply went back to where there were less U.S. troops to deal with.
This is victory? Next time one of these candidates or commentators uses such a term as victory, they should be made to explain what exactly that means in these situations.
After all, we are still fighting this “war” against terrorism, aren’t we?
Steve T is an idiotJuly 21st, 2008 - 11:17 am
The terrorists simply went back? Is that how it works? What a clown. Osama said Iraq was the central point of the war. Looks like Osama lost.
R.J.July 21st, 2008 - 11:31 am
Maybe if the stupid voters are thinking about Obama being wrong about the surge they won’t think about how wrong McShrub was about supporting a war started with lies, or the trillion dollars it’s cost the voters, or the thousands of dead American troops, or the forty thousand that are missing arms and legs, or the million innocent civilians that have been killed, or the loss of credibility and respect in the eyes of the rest of the world. The success of the surge is temporary, unless there are 160,000 troops there for the next hundred years. Just how many trillions of dollars is Iraq worth? How many dead Americans is Iraq worth? The odds of winning in Iraq are the same as converting the christian world to Islam.
DaveJuly 21st, 2008 - 11:56 am
Only fools believe that when the Iraqi’s demand our departure that we’ll comply.
We have something like a half billion dollar base there and we’re building more near the Iranian boder as well.
We’ll be there until our economy collapses or we have civil war and the troops are needed at home to quell the cities that are on fire.
R.J.July 21st, 2008 - 11:57 am
McShrub is also blaming Obama for high gas prices. That is totally absurd. High gas prices are the result of being addicted to oil, not because of somebody being apposed to destroying the environment. What is really sad, is that there are so many pinhead voters that will buy the stupid shirt McShrub is selling. That is the same trash Shrub has been feeding this country for the past eight years, screw up the environment, the economy and the whole country with stupid policies, and then blame everybody else.
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 12:05 pm
If we drill for oil “off shore” and in ANWR will that oil stay here (in the US) for our consumption and energy “independence” or will the oil companies that operate the rigs sell it to the highest bidder on the open market?
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 12:09 pm
Sen. McCain may be “right†about the surge but he is still clueless about why we are in Iraq. His own statements reveal his ignorance on this issue. He has stated several times that if we leave “al-Qaeda will take over†and/or Iran will “take overâ€. Perhaps he should explain how this is going to happen. If he doesn’t know why we are there, how will he know when it is time to leave?
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:15 pm
What exactly are we “winning” in Iraq?
Oil Contracts?
Military contracts for KBR?
The bodycount?
Not quite sure what he means by “winning”…
If he means like:
US: 1,000,000 Iraqis/Afghanis killed
Iraq: 4,000 US killed.
Yeah, I guess that sounds like “winning” to me.
Amerika, F*** YEAH!
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:18 pm
Liberals are all retarded…
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:18 pm
“July 21st, 2008 – 1:15 pm”
http://comments.breit bart.com/d90it84g0/?commentspage=3
“SoCal Patriot May 12th, 2008 – 6:43 pm
“May 12th, 2008 – 6:36 pmâ€
Another fake SoCal, I love getting under their skins, pulling their strings and making them dance. I know I’m on the right track when retarded kids use my name to pretend to be me. It proves they’re idiot children AND less than me.
Seriously, when faced with a superior intellect, all these mental midgets can do is lie through their teeth, pretend to be other people and babble. :D
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites.†— Thomas Sowell
Retarded liberal teenagers like R.J. are so funny when they’re desperate for attention, they make it so easy… :D
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:47 pm
We need ANOTHER surge in Iraq, so we can win more. I like to win, and winning is more important than anything. I would give up my soul, just to win.
Hell, we’ve taken a million souls, what’s one more?
We are uber-pwning Iraq, and the liberals out there hate us Neocons, because whenever we have a problem, we kill it.
And win. Praise Jesus.
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:50 pm
How’s it feel to be worthless scum R.J.?
“July 21st, 2008 – 1:47 pm”
Another fake SoCal, I love getting under their skins, pulling their strings and making them dance. I know I’m on the right track when retarded kids use my name to pretend to be me. It proves they’re idiot children AND less than me.
Seriously, when faced with a superior intellect, all these mental midgets can do is lie through their teeth, pretend to be other people and babble. :D
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites.†— Thomas Sowell
Retarded liberal teenagers like R.J. are so funny when they’re desperate for attention, they make it so easy… :D
NamasteJuly 21st, 2008 - 1:58 pm
It is truly encouraging to see the number of comments reflecting people who have been paying attention to what has really been happening in Iraq.
It is rewarding to note that there are people who understand that the Bush (small shrub) machine has no idea what they are doing nor have they ever gotten it right.
This is an unwinnable war. There will be no winners no matter when we pull out. We will have lost so much, and so will the Iraqis.
The fact that Bush still does not know how to speak the language and doesn’t understand military terms even after all this time, and has even been able to encourage a “military man” who “knows how to win a war” to use the same faulty language and thinking is a big clue to the sham and deceit we are still being treated to.
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 2:07 pm
Code-pink morons never had a clue, as namaste’s post proves…
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 2:18 pm
Namaste is a cut-and-run coward. I can’t wait until the draft. Hopefully she’s the first to go.
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 2:19 pm
“July 21st, 2008 – 2:18 pm”
“July 21st, 2008 – 1:47 pmâ€
Another fake SoCal, I love getting under their skins, pulling their strings and making them dance. I know I’m on the right track when retarded kids use my name to pretend to be me. It proves they’re idiot children AND less than me.
Seriously, when faced with a superior intellect, all these mental midgets can do is lie through their teeth, pretend to be other people and babble. :D
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites.†— Thomas Sowell
Retarded liberal teenagers like R.J. are so funny when they’re desperate for attention, they make it so easy… :D
m-antonyJuly 21st, 2008 - 2:43 pm
Has oreo thanked Mr. McCain, and Gen. Patraeus ? He would not be on his glamour tour right now if it were not for these men. What a typical…… politician.
Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the “the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent,” McCain responded: “I think it’s serious. . . . It’s a serious situation, but there’s a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I’m afraid it’s a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border.”
But as ABC’s Rick Klein noted: “Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do.”
maybe he misspoke when he claimed he was running for president! its okay, we understand you old coots get some crazy ideas now and then. does McCain need his diaper changed?
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 3:16 pm
“maybe he misspoke when he claimed he was running for president!”
When did he say that?
Maybe obama lied when he said he’d take public financing. There’s a difference between making a mistake and lying like a typical liberal…
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 3:20 pm
“When did he say that?”
Nevermind, I misread your stupid statement…
McCain misspoke, so liberals should let him off the hook?
Well, lets see, Obama has misspoke too. And made some missteps as well. And since Conservatives are always so generous and let Obama off the hook in those cases, well then you are right SoCal. I take it back. McCain is VERY coherent for his age and has a very well tempered disposition considering his life experience. what a perfect presidential candidate!
(…YEAH, RIGHT!)
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 3:25 pm
“Obama has misspoke too.”
Again, obama lied when he said he’d take public financing. There’s a difference between making a mistake and lying like a typical liberal…
RoverJuly 21st, 2008 - 3:27 pm
Obamas trip to iraq gives me a big cone full of concern and worry about his safety. Hopefully his spirit guide is strong and protective. Two nights ago me and a group of my friends meditated to allow our own spirit guides to assist Obama and help him to return safely. I sleep better now knowing our meditation and loan of our spirit guides to Obama will insure his safe return.
we need to start up the draft and get serious about this.
if we can get enough soldiers on the ground, we could torture and kill enough people that no one would dare refuse our freedom and democracy!
we have to win it all at all costs or face it, we’re fgas.
libertas ab chao!
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 3:35 pm
Typical idiots liberals, want the draft so they can dodge it. There will be no draft, morons…
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 4:05 pm
“Now it seems that the Iraqi leadership is in line with the concept of a US withdrawal within the time frame originally proposed by Obama”
McCain said that Iraq would probably take control by 2010. Obama originally said he’d pull them out in 2009, then 16 months, then whatever it was he said last week. We’ll have to see what his next position will be.
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 4:29 pm
Obama’s position was that he would like to see US troops out of Iraq “sixteen months after he takes office”. That would put it sometime in the summer of 2010. This is also the time period that the al-Maliki government also has recently proposed. Fine tuning that date may seem to be “flip flopping” or “changing his position” to those who never miss an opportunity to criticize Obama, but I submit that his position is more flexible out of necessity, reflecting the situation as it exists “on the groundâ€. The main difference between Obama’s position and McCain’s is that Obama would like to see us out of there as soon as possible and Mr. McCain would like for us to be there as long as possible. John McCain’s position is for an open ended US presence with “permanent” bases similar to those that we have in Germany, Japan, and Korea. I am not sure that the Iraqis are so keen to this idea. Those large military installations that we are expanding in Iraq (near the Iranian border) are likely to be vacant now (at least as far as we are concerned). Even the Bush administration is talking about a withdrawal timetable. Of course they are calling it something else but it is in reality the same thing.
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 4:43 pm
“Obama’s position was that he would like to see US troops out of Iraq “sixteen months after he takes officeâ€.”
During the primaries he said, more than once, that he’d end the Iraq war in 2009. It’s just one of his many positions, liberals are just idiots… :D
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 5:02 pm
OK, so he would “like” to end the war in 2009. How is that significant? I would hope that we would all “like” to end that stupid war right now! Circumstances may dictate otherwise and keep us there longer than we would “likeâ€. Mr. McCain, on the other hand, would “like” for us to stay there indefinitely. He still believes that if we leave “prematurely” al-Qaeda will take over. Just how is that supposed to happen?
Neoconpoops are so ignorant.
MakoJuly 21st, 2008 - 5:10 pm
SoCal Patriot – Isn’t it time to douche your vageen?
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 5:44 pm
Isn’t it time you pulled your head out of your ass?
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 5:45 pm
“OK, so he would “like†to end the war in 2009.”
You added the “like” because liberals are all dishonest morons…
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 5:59 pm
SoCal,
So enlighten us…how is al-Qaeda going to “take over Iraq” (McCain’s exact words)?
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:00 pm
“July 21st, 2008 – 6:02 pm”
Another fake SoCal, I love getting under their skins, pulling their strings and making them dance. I know I’m on the right track when retarded kids use my name to pretend to be me. It proves they’re idiot children AND less than me.
Seriously, when faced with a superior intellect, all these mental midgets can do is lie through their teeth, pretend to be other people and babble. :D
“Democrats are the only reason to vote Republican.†— Thomas Sowell
Retarded teenagers are so funny when they’re desperate for attention, they make it so easy… :D
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:02 pm
A hundred years in Iraq (McCain’s position) is what I favor. Who can disagree? Liberal morons, that’s who.
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:03 pm
“July 21st, 2008 – 6:04 pm”
Another fake SoCal, I love getting under their skins, pulling their strings and making them dance. I know I’m on the right track when retarded kids use my name to pretend to be me. It proves they’re idiot children AND less than me.
Seriously, when faced with a superior intellect, all these mental midgets can do is lie through their teeth, pretend to be other people and babble. :D
“Democrats are the only reason to vote Republican.†— Thomas Sowell
Retarded teenagers are so funny when they’re desperate for attention, they make it so easy… :D
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:04 pm
“So enlighten us…how is al-Qaeda going to “take over Iraq†(McCain’s exact words)?”
Via IRAN: You moron. Go smoke a marijuana cigarette you commie.
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:05 pm
“So enlighten us…how is al-Qaeda going to “take over Iraq†(McCain’s exact words)?”
They’re not, because we’re not going to “cut and run” like the liberals want. However, if we left before Iraq could stand on it’s own, they could destabilize Iraq, like they tried to do earlier. Again, If you pulled your head from your ass, you might get some of this…
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:33 pm
“Al-Qaeda is going to take over Iraq via IRAN?”
I told you that you have your head up you ass, you fell for the fake socal’s trolling..or you are the fake socal. Either way, you’re still stupid…
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:35 pm
Funny how the fake socal tries to make me mad but he only fools idiot liberals… :D
R.J.July 21st, 2008 - 6:38 pm
McShrub is just putting lipstick on a pig by trying to say the surge was successful. And saying “We’re winning” is just beating that poor ol’ dead horse. But Alzheimer patients tend to be delusional.
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:41 pm
“Al-Qaeda “destabilizing†Iraq is NOT the same as al-Qaeda “taking overâ€.”
Why do you think they want to destabilize Iraq, moron? They already admitted that they want to take over and use Iraq as a launching pad for more attacks on the US and europe. Seriously, how can you be as stupid as you obviously are and post on the internet? It’s amazing what they teach retards these days…
SoCaI PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 6:44 pm
“trying to say the surge was successful.”
Poor R.J., the code-pink liberal, still in denial that the surge worked and is still working after we’ve drawn down some of the surge troops…
Shouldn’t you pretend to be me again, since you keep getting spanked as you?
AirwickJuly 21st, 2008 - 8:19 pm
SoCal,
Since you have all the answers, why don’t you answer the simple question, “HOW IS AL-QQAEDA GOING TO “TAKE OVER†IRAQ?†Just because al-Qaeda says that they want to take over does not mean that they will be able to do so. Try to think before engaging your computer keyboard. For al-Qaeda to take over or even destabilize Iraq they have to establish a base of operations. Where will this be, genius? You have all the answers. Who will be their support group? In order to engage in asymmetrical military operations you have to have more than “I wantâ€; you need a base of operations and support. Where are they going to find it and how will they proceed?
Oh, and I am NOT a Liberal and that comment is something that someone like you would say so it was easy to fall for the “fake” SoCal. He has you down pretty good.
RoverJuly 21st, 2008 - 9:20 pm
SoCal you need to settle down and have an organic ice cream cone. I personally find Rocky Road with sprinkles on it to be a good choice. Your going to bust a vein trying to defend the indefensable. Just admit defeat, making bad choices, and enjoy your cone :)
Obama 08
He will even save the SoCals of this country
They will embrace his truth and then savor the light
SoCal PatriotJuly 21st, 2008 - 10:13 pm
“Just because al-Qaeda says that they want to take over does not mean that they will be able to do so.”
What makes you think they couldn’t have if we had ran away? It makes perfect sense that they could, just like the taliban took over Afghanistan.
“Who will be their support group?”
No nation is openly supporting them but where do you think AQ has been getting their support from all this time? It comes from where their suicide bombers and fighters come from. Did you think the AK-47 fairy was helping them?
“For al-Qaeda to take over or even destabilize Iraq they have to establish a base of operations. Where will this be, genius?”
Where was it you mean? They had a base of operations in mosul and baghdad. Remember, re ran them out of their strongholds.
“In order to engage in asymmetrical military operations you have to have more than “I wantâ€; you need a base of operations and support. Where are they going to find it and how will they proceed?”
The Iraqi Army and police weren’t well trained and often ran away from fights at the beginning. You, once again, prove that you’re an idiot. The taliban ran off Russia and took Afghanistan while fighting from caves and remote villages. It doesn’t take as much as you ignorantly imagine, if the conditions are right.
“I am NOT a Liberal”
Yes you are, and you’re a liar.
“that comment is something that someone like you would say”
No, it’s not. You’re just stupid enough to think it is. Fools like you are easily fooled…
If it weren’t for the Surge, which Obama strongly opposed every step of the way, there would not be an Iraq today to host Obama’s photo op.