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I got my “We’ll Remember Come November” and other stickers at http://www.keep2theright.com
It’s time to take out the garbage!
WHAT employer???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at all of the mouth breathing neanderthals in these videos. Only they were stupid enough to believe the promises of free money and free shiney things being offered by the consumate liar. Those neanderthals have absolutely no right to other people’s hard earned money. Not during the good times not during these tough economic times that Goober Obama has contributed to in large measures.
He’s s nice LMAO just remember our watch fraud media who helped these criminals.
What employers?
The sad thing is, this pathological liar will somehow convince his liberal underlings that he is saving them that much. Heck, he convinced everyone that the bill was deficit neutral.
Most libs are either incredibly naive, liars, or just plain stupid. We should enroll them all in some community college poly-sci and economics classes.
What a dumb ass, not to mention a habitual liar.
When is the campaign of open, loud boycotts against the media going to start? They shouldn’t be able to do one field report on ANY story without being shouted down and heckled for what they have done!! TRAITORS!!!!
He will pay dearly for his evil.
Wow, where’d he round up this group?? The welfare lines???
This will be just like all the jobs supposedly saved and created by the stimulus as unemployment continued to soar. Insurance rates will continue to rise, even faster with all the new mandates, but the Dems will claim they would rise even faster without Obamacare. And his zombie followers will swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Petraeus 2012
Call your local hospitals. Ask if you can get test for free now since this law has passed. See what answer you get. LOL
Just make it hell for all health care providers. Call and annoy them to death.
Funny, the premiums may go down, but he never mentioned the taxes going up 
Fire this bum and take back America!!
They want to share the wealth. When will we share the work.
Xammot
It is amazing how many liberals have drank the kool-aid, you would think it was a Jamestown convention. The Obama stash will run out then these idiots will being raising hell with the Socialist President.
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson
They’ll be waiting a mighty long time! The collective IQ of all combined barely breaks 100.
Some still believe in Santa, (Republican/Democrat politician critters).
Others see the unfortunate truth.
Unfortunately, the lying Republican/Democrat politician critters and the federal reserve, (which is neither federal nor reserve), since 1913, have printed (counterfeited) trillions of dollars out of thin air to help fix problems they help create.
Trade your green toilet paper for things that have actual value while you still can.
If you’re not petrified of the coming dollar collapse, you aren’t paying attention.
And they will wait…wait and wait!
This is just like in Germany when Hitler took over…he appealed to the uneducated and uninformed in their society to control them and he did…just like the Bilderberg Obama the Bush is doing today!
It never ceases to amaze me on these stories about healthcare and their anticipation of getting better health insurance.
On C-Span yesterday while in between sessions a woman called and expressed how she had insurance, her husband had insurance and their son had insurance already…and she was looking forward to getting this new healthcare where she didn’t have to pay co-pays!
Does this uneducated and uninformed woman, and all like her, even realize that ’someone’ has to pay for her ‘not’ too have co-pays…and that will be her?
Imbecilic deaf, dumb and blind…citizens who are being manipulated by the messiah of Islam and being fed lies and propaganda to keep them on the plantations in servitude!
America…continue to pray for America…I do not think there is another nation in this world that is in danger like this one!
Today…we open to the realization that November is fast approaching and we need regroup to get out the vote!
Continue speakiing up and speaking out and never, ever give up…it will not be in our makeup and/or vocabulary!
When you are overcome by a ‘majority’ of Democratzi ‘loons’ we have to get to the root of the problem…remove the majority of the ‘loons’ to get an even playing field…then let’s continue the war and see who wins the battles!
Keep fighting on…America…I am and I am continuing to encourage you…you continue to encourage me and we will take back our government from the Democratzi ‘loons’ who temporarily inhabit our government!
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JUST EIGHT (8) MORE MONTHS TO “D” DAY II !
1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!
ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!
The revolution has begun, and it wont be pretty.
Dear Leaders:
The time for honoring yourselves will soon come to an end….the first round will be this November…..the next in 2012…..
Companies will make profits! They will drop the health insurance and pay the fine. Have friends who own businesses and they say it will be cheaper to pay fine. Keep the insurance you have-RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
If either my premiums go up or my taxes go up i’m screwed. I’m barely paying for everything right now because i’m making a 3rd of what i was 4 years ago. I have literally no wiggle room. This new legislation literally frightens me.
Employer? This is a bill for those out of work. We’re spreading the wealth, remember?
If you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes true, right? ‘Up to $2500 per year’ includes $1, doesn’t it?
yeah…just watching CNN…they say that if you get insurance through your work…your premiums will stay the same. AND oh…jeez…someone like me who is self insured and I make over 88k per year will see mine go up.
My wife and I work our asses off. We make about 100k a year, but in Los Angeles it really doesn’t go that far. So we’ll get to pay more for insurance…AND the city is raising fees on all kinds of stuff. Tripled our trash collection fees, not to pay for better trash collection but to put into the general fund. Same thing with our public utilities. Even the brush clearance inspection now, for the first time will include an inspection fee.
And now we can pay extra money for insurance. Every year I donate about 1 thousand dollars to a free health clinic here in LA. I guess I’ll find the extra money for my insurance in there.
Help me out, has he kept any promises he made other than turning us towards a Single Payer system? After all, when I said that he was aiming for that pre-election I was called a racist, what is the new label for me? Right?
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.
I’ll be needing that $2500 to help out family members who won’t be qualifying for free heath care, but are still having trouble making ends meet. They won’t be buying health care, but they will get fined for it, so even less money for them.
When this ddoesn’t pan out will the American people have the fortitude to throw this POS out of office. Who else is sick of the lies and the gov’t takeover.
Stupid American Voters = Stupid Politicians
Meanwhile the rest of the world laughs.
China, laughs at us and our economic policies.
Russia, laughs giving Iran nuclear technology.
Israel, laughs at how stupid our politicians are and how we coddle terrorists leaving our allies
behind.
Germany laughs at our fiscal irresponsibilies.
Britain, laughs at the pure arrogance of this bastard we have as a president. Returning a bust
of Winston Churchill that has been in the oval office since WWII.
Australia, is curious as to a president that thumbs his nose at state visits while at the same
being loyal allies in Iraq war.
I for one am fed up with this joke of an administration.
That would mean my premimum will be less than ZERO!!!
YAY ME
huh, why are you all laughing….
Be advised. Your premiums are going to go up by 25% – 75% in the next 3 years. Then you will lose your coverage and your doctor. It will be replaced by a meaningless promise that your doctor will not accept. Hang in their America, 1964 caused 1968 – this is going to get very rough.
How much will this $2,500 savings cost me when the state has to raise my taxes to fill the gap the Fed just took out of Medicare/Medicaid? It seems to me the Fed will be needing to bailout all 50 states (57 if you are the President, but hey, we give stimulus funds to districts that don’t exist so what the heck). Obama is setting up quite an inheritance for the next President, isn’t he?
And this is all the while that this bill has hidden taxes and IRS oversight of my personal medical information. Big Brother is now in your health and employment records to a degree unprecedented in America. With all this information and control, do you REALLY trust them to not use it?
I thought Liberals and Progressives were against government intrusion. They just invited the IRS into their bodies and noone seems to think this hypocracy is stunning. Little did I know that intrusion was OK as long as it was “us” and not “the other” side who did it.
My employer just raised our deductible and our co-pays went from 20 to 30, same with the prescriptions. So F*&K HIM!! And F*&K YOU if you voted for him!!!
My husband and I are fortunate to pay only $1000/year in premiums. Does that mean we’ll be getting a $1500 refund check?
March on Washington with pitchforks!
Well. Lets see here. 20% deductions from by paychecks. Works it’s way out to $102 a week or $408 a month. Thats works its way out to $4896 taken out of my pocket annually for this $2500 reduction in insurance premiums a year that is covered by my employer. And I only make $15 an hour. That deduction increases as income goes up. Lets not even get into taxes. So my take home (net pay) went from $19584 to $14688 annually. I did that before and was struggling to even pay the bills. Lets not include put gas in my tank or the fact that I lived off of nothing but Top Ramen during that time. I work my @$$ off to improve my situation and the government drops me down more than a notch.
Great job Dems for putting me back below the poverty level. Great job idiots for voting for this mess.
I said it before i’ll say it again, i don’t know anyone who’s family pays $2500 a year for health insurance for a family, i have a mediocre job and i have insurance for 4 costing only $178 and change for very good coverage.
Remember in November Dems: Na na na na, na na na na Hey hey hey, goodbye.
The legislation would for the first time apply Medicare taxes to investment income received by these households beginning in 2013. The 3.8 percent rate would apply to unearned income such as realized capital gains, dividends, interest, rents, and royalties.
That’s 3.8 on top of existing taxes.
I can’t even stand look at the man who is single handedly flushing 200 years of culture, blood, sweat and tears down the toilet anymore than I can stand to look at the sheep that voted for him.
The U. S. Constitution as we know it ended when no one in Congress called for a point of order, in regards to obama not being a natural born citizen. This is about a legal matter, not about a Birth Certificate!
Citizen Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, because he said his father was British at his birth and that he was British as well. Therefore nothing citizen obama does sitting as an unlawful POTUS is legal.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm
For the source records, not an opinion.
Paul/Palin 2012
Remember too that IF you don’t have insurance, with this new Bill — YOU WILL BE FINED $1,000 per year!! Possible jail time.
You will also be forced to pay for abortions for those who cannot control themselves. THIS IS SICKENING SOCIALISM. BRING ON THE REVOLUTION!
Look at the free lunch moochers lap this BS up. Of course no one in the media will hold this liar to account.
Since 1913 instituted graduated federal income taxes the future
was easily predicted for the federal government. Pandering to
fools to buy cheap votes from uneducated greedy lazy arsed
poor people that would choose to forever be poor because
the government was lead by evil people causing their citizenry
to err.
Rational and smart Americans get ready because up next is immigration reform and the uckstains in the democrat party WILL IGNORE the will of the majority on this just like they arrogantly did in order to ram through their crappy free hippy clinic care for the masses which the USA does not have the money to pay for.
During this past weekend’s so called ” immigration reform march ” why were ALL of the marchers hispanic?? WTF if the USA has such horrible immigration policy then why were the streets of DC not filled with immigrants/citizens from africa, asia and europe. Why is it that only effin hispanics have a beef with the laws in the USA. I say the laws are perfect as they can be and only one group of immigrants can’t seem to obey them.
The effects of decades of undermining public education on display. Why…WHY do people still believe the words that come out of the mouths of politicians speaking in their own favor? How many promises has this guy broken already? Yet… Oh I give up. Everyone with a brain already is opposed to this crap, everyone else is either selling out their country for a little temporary comfort or believes everything they see on television (the true mind-numbed robots)
I think we should have a simple litmus test, complete with brain scan, for all elected officials: show them the constitution and if they do not revere it, they are jailed for fraud.
USSA – United States Socialist of America. This recession is now turning irreversibly deeper! Better get your guns and ammo. this is gonna be one heck of a civil war! You Betchya!
Those things are not promised until after the neanderthals vote for him for a second term…in 2013.
Where’s my free healthcare at?
Somebody call the amberlamps. I needs my free health care now!
Where’s dat amberlamps at?
They will “lower premimums” but tax you in some other way but won’t call it a “premium”. It’s a shell game…we are all screwed.
The people of pre-WWII Germany were in the same situation. They simply could not bring themselves to believe Hilter was a bad guy. The more power he took, the more they refused to believe, until they were lined up, and shot.
Premiums will go up, taxes will go up, quality will go down, unemployment will go up. It is all a pack of lies which is what socialists do. We are now a Banana Republic.
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CITIZENS OF AMERICA, PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR CIVIL WAR.
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it. . .”
Commieobamie is right. What employer? Good thing Obama is focusing on passing a bill that will only further hinder our poor economy.
More Obama lies.
Bring down your premium by $2500 and raise your taxes by $5000.
STUPAK IS A SELLOUT! WHAT A FREAKIN TOOL! AND AN IDIOT WHO DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HIS WAY AROUND LEGISLATION! KICK HIM OUT MICH.
http://www.americanparchment.com reported that the premiums will go up for individuals and businesses will lose millions. CAT itself will have to pay $100 million dollars now that this is passed, they will have to layoff more workers. Talk about destroying the economy.
Yep. They gonna give us $2500 in obama money, right after our taxes go up $5000.hehehe. If they say no new taxes that means they are going to raise the old taxes. If they say we will not raise taxes then they will create new ones. Same old song and dance.
“Work with your employer to lower your premiums” – Translation: We will jack up taxes on your employer and prohibit him from passing the cost on to you, the employee. However, we won’t do anything when every company in American raises prices to pay for those taxes.”
That is hilarious because I know one law firm in Las Vegas who announced last Friday that they were upping the ‘employee contribution’ by $80 starting NEXT WEEK!!!!! in anticipation of this ’solution’ to health insurance.
And what did they cite as the reason? Their insurance carrier was already raising rates NOW in anticipation the taxes and costs imposed on them in 2011.
Gee, the private sector reacts to government action? That is probably news to those serving in Congress. Kinda like when credit card companies raised rates in ADVANCE of the implementation date of the new ‘reforms’ to that industry. Wonder how happy people who are NOT the so-called beneficiaries of these ‘reforms’ are going to be in November???
Lower premiums by $2,500…?
I’ll be paying ten times that much for the health care for the non-working bums.
Geez, it’s like I just picked up 250 ex-wives.
Thanks, man.
If there’s any lower premium, there will be a spike in federal income taxes for approx 53% of us who still are paying federal income taxes. There is no other way around it.
Liar liar pants on fire
Hm It’s an out right lie, it will cost you double and it’s maditory, and it’s enforced by THE IRS, and you have no choice you will pay! Hitler said that to. HM Dictator Obama a Muslim has taken over 20% of the private sector in 15 months What part of Communist and a Muslim dictator don’t understand. I right now think Obama is the USA’s Anti Christ. Time to remove this evil punny piece of garbage now IMPEACH NOW to save America.
when i get my 2500 then the irs will get paid. i hope the new irs agents can use weapons because they will need it when they come to collect frm me.
better dump your 401K plan before 2013! I would rather take the hit now then in 2013. READ IT “until the funds are withdrawn”
BETTER GET LIQUID, SELL your house now!
“The legislation would for the first time apply Medicare taxes to investment income received by these households beginning in 2013. The 3.8 percent rate would apply to unearned income such as realized capital gains, dividends, interest, rents, and royalties. It wouldn’t apply to other income subject to income taxes, including interest from municipal bonds and retirement accounts such as 401(k) plans until funds are withdrawn.”
OBAMA LIES !
AGAIN.
Who are the uninsured who will now receive health insurance, and who are the millions, upon millions, of currently uninsured that somehow did not seem to qualify for this abortion! Surprised they didn’t start off each new insured person under this plan, with a $2500 health savings account, but then again we don’t know what he put in this bill under the cover of darkness!
Oh I just remembered, the millions who didn’t qualify, are the illegal’s who will receive health insurance under our new immigration policy, that he will sneak in, under the cover of a border patrol fence!
Where were You in 2008? That was your last chance!
When you elect Socialist, you get Socialism.
We will not have elections in 2012, he will change Constitution.
Guess why no courts are taking lawsuits about his citizenship?
It’s on Odumber…..Class warfare – Race warfare! This is nothing but a handout!
Take from the people that work and give to the sloths!
You want it, you asked for it and you got it!
Bring it on LIbs!
First it was “we’ll reduce your premiums by up to 3000%”, now it’s up to $2,500, which is much less. Soon, he’ll be bragging that we’re reducing your premiums by $50/month, and eventually, he’ll be blaming the insurance industry when premiums go up 20% next year.
SOMETHING needed to be done…period! I pay $1,000 a month for crappy coverage,& can’t get a better deal because of a pre-existing condition. Doctors prescribe medicine because Pharma pushes it’s narcotic poisons to them as being cutting edge and useful. They get everyone on anti-anxiety, blood pressure or statin drugs and once that prescription is written, the insurance companies drop them OR jack up the premiums – even though these patients are taking (so-called)medicines that are supposed to eliminate those risks!! The system is so whacked out it’s comically tragic.
Unfortunately, the only clear solution here will be if welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, and other leeches start dying in some unforseen manner. Let’s hope for a deadly virus that infects government cheese.
WE CANT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT IS NEXT? LEGALIZE ALL THE ILLEGALS AND GIVE THEM GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE!!!!!!
BUY MORE VOTES!
WE CAN’T WAIT!
WE NEED TO STORM THE CAPITOL WITH PROTESTORS DAILY!
LEARN FROM WHAT THE LIBS DID IN THE 60′S!
PROTEST EVERYDAY!
THEY ASKED FOR IT…NOW GIVE IT TO THEM!
Congress has a different health plan than us ? don’t they work for US? and the best part is we pay 4 years for this before we get anything?! By then we’ll probably have 30% less doctors…. Everything Gov’t runs is broke. Now they run Healthcare? My God America. Who voted these idiots in office? Clean House in NOV..
Wait–wouldn’t that mean that:
1) “They” HAVE an employer
2) “They” PAY for their insurance already
3) “They” PAY income tax?
What seems to be missing from all the dialoge is what is NEXT for healthcare…. This isn’t the end, we know that, and it’s obvious that the end goal is complete control of healthcare–but the missing “next step” for these people–and the “warning sign” that all Americans have to look for is the coming cries for the need to manage the actual costs. What drives insurance costs?!?!?! Look at the spending for medical care–>50% is on the service. The cost of medical practitioners; medical devices and equipment; LABOR (nursing staff, aides, etc. etc.); property/real estate; utilities; and so on. Once all this insurance “reform” results in bankrupt government-approved insurance pools, as every employer will choose to opt out at a mere $2,000 “penalty” (should be called an incentive!), the only logical next step is to drive down the ACTUAL factors driving the cost of insurance–so welcome takeover of hospitals, clinics, and the labor needed to run it. The “new enemies of the people” will be those greedy nurses, doctors, and care facilities–and unless something happens to break this group of thugs up soon, this country’s quality of life is doomed.
Anyone need more proof that ELECTIONS MATTER????
Im 40 years old and never felt the need to vote because I knew If I get my ass out of bed and WORK I will be ok. I will be voting for #45 this year
They sold there baby killing souls to the devil.
This man known as the President of the greatset country in the world,can crisscross the US & lie about whatever he wants.Sad time for America!!!
I work in health care for a major West coast, college-based, health system. Our physicians are already over-booked & do not take Medi-Cal as a primary carrier for adult patients. Currently, neither Medi-Cal nor Medicare reimburse at levels that meet out costs – & that’s not something that will change soon, if ever! Are we to logically & rationally expect this to change upon Obama’s signing of this “reform” package? Of course not! Government routinely over-promises & under-funds. This health care “reform” will be no different. And how will the entity I work for maintain fiscal status quo? Not by hiring more physicians to meet the increased patient load but through the elimination of full-time employees, front office (check-in, check-out, phone operators), back office (nurses, medical assistants, physician assistants, nurse practitioners), billing staff, etc. – forcing fewer employees to do more for the same money. Talk about change I can believe in! And providers will be forced to see more patients for less time – probably 10 min max appointments – to maintain their same rate of productivity. In the industry, this is called “relative value units”; physician salaries are calculated based on productivity. So, more patients for less time relates to fewer conditions treated & increased referrals to specialists (who cost more). Primary care physicians will LOSE BIG under ObamaCare. With far more specialists than primary care docs graduating med schools now, there will be a major shortage of family practice docs in a few short years (we’re already close to a shortage now, actually). You know what that means, don’t you? Fewer available appointments. Longer waits to see your doc. Rationing of care. Physicians who are unhappy & unfulfilled in their jobs. Patients who are unhappy with not being able to see their doctors & with the abbreviated they receive, being forced to return later for that other condition they’d like to discuss today.
Also, I used to be financial manager for a very successful geriatric-only (65 & older) practice. We were a very lean, bare-bones, efficient office. We took Medicare & Medicare risk-HMOs. The HMOs were over 60% of our business & that was the only way we were able to stay afloat. Had Medicare been our only source of income, we’d have gone under. The practice has since closed & is now sees “frail/elderly” patients only in-home or in skilled nursing or assisted-living facilities because the reimbursement is far better & there’s no overhead for office space or even the bare-bones staff we had in the office! (The “frail/elderly” are patients that are usually abandoned by primary care docs because they are not mobile & can’t get to clinics for care. The vast majority of primary care docs won’t follow patients in skilled-nursing or assisted-living facilities & yet periodic care of this demographic is mandated by law.) Now, they need only physicians, a few nurse practitioners & a manager/biller – that’s it. Very effective model of implementing patient care for that demographic. But ObamaCare will cut Medicare benefits to physicians like this in 4 years, forcing them to return to the office setting (or retire) & survive on less reimbursement & limit the way they provide patient care to those who most need it!
This “reform” is a LOSE-LOSE for the USA.
And “pro-life Democrat” (an oxymoron if there ever was one) Bart Stupak should be ashamed of himself.
Obama a smug bastard was so cavalier said it’s going to happen and I’m going to watch Basket Ball, while taking over 1/6 of the US private sector and GDP illegaly., 30 states are already suing this unconstitutional Kommy CARE. To all out there can we as a whole sue the government Obama records under the Freedom of Informmation, by the 150 million signers? Time for action or we will be living with evil anti American MUSLIM ISLAMIST scumbag. If we could get records he would be removed as an Illegal Alien.
http://911essentials.com says of course he’s a liar and will never tell you the truth.
Liars lie about lying and never tell the truth.
Now we’d like to see your birth certificate.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRO-LIFE DEMOCRAT!
BART STUPACK IS A SPINELESS TOOL, DEVOID OF CHARACTER OR PRINCIPLES!!!
And a chicken in every pot…
If you own a business and did not fire ALL union workers – you deserve what is coming to you.
Without unions – Obama is nothing.
Kelly something needed to be done but not this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No other ideas were even looked at. I know insurance lobbyists who cut a deal with congress. They wanted a small bill because it requires that everyone buy insurance!
The insurance companies are predicting huge growth! HA! Do you really think congress did something for the people? It is all about money and you will end up paying just like everyone else!
American people are so st*pid! Oh and by the way Odumber had to pass something because he promised it to Hillary to get her out of the election!
I am encouraged by the raw distaste that 99% of the foregoing comments present.
WE, AS VOTERS, MUST RETAIN THIS RAW ANGER AND MAKE IT TRANSLATE TO A TRUE CLEARING OUT OF THIS ARROGANT CONGRESS, THE POLITICIAN
THAT FLAUNTS THE TRUE WILL OF THE MAJORITY AMERICAN, THE POLITICIAN WHO SPENDS OUR MONEY AS THOUGH IT IS HIS MONEY WITH A THOUGHT
FOR THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE BANKRUPTING OF OUR GREAT NATION AND WHO THINKS US STUPID AD DISTRACTED BY THE FACT THAT WE CAN’T FIND A JOB.
REMEMBER COME NOVEMBER:
VOTE – VOTE – VOTE – VOTE – VOTE YOUR ANGER, SHOW YOUR ANGER, REMEMBER YOUR ANGER.
I work for Whole Foods Market and don’t pay a dime for my excellent coverage. What are you going to do for me Mr. President?
Communist A.ss Holes.
Premiums, of course, will go up. Just think of it — the state Medicaid programs can now put their costly covered lives into your private insurance plan for the same premiums you pay, with the state paying the premium, which will be a fraction of what the costs of their care, and guess who gets to foot their bill? It was a diabolical plan. Of course, the states can keep the worried well low cost patients in their self-insured Medicaid program until they get sick and then make the switch.
Obama’s plan is a racist plan, since he knows whites will pay for the bulk of the cost of care for the minorities. Obama was raised in Reverend Wright’s church, and we know how the Reverend feels about the white man, whose greed runs a world in need.
So if you don’t pay the fine… will they put you in prison (they don’t even think criminals belong in prison)? Will they foreclose on your house (just like the big bad bankers)? Will they withhold treatments (like the insurance companies)? Keep you from getting a job (probably makes sense to them)? Deport you (nah, can’t deport anyone, amnesty is easier)? Take your children away ? How can they squeeze blood from a turnip, when noone has anything left? What EXACTLY will they do… put you in a room with Obama while he condescendingly blathers about himself? With Pelosi jumping up and down weilding a gavel? With Reid (remember, sleep depravation is torture)? Perhaps a shower with Rahm? What EXACTLY will they do?!!!
Really, how absurd will this all get, and did they think it through?
obama = liar
If the economy and jobs keeps getting worse more people who have no job or are struggling to keep their house, make ends meet etc.. then they will ” change ” and find they like the idea of a free HC.
All you need is a certain percentage of Americans who are in bad enough shape and you’ll get a permanent socialist America. It won’t matter how well and rational you argue for the case of limited government & strong capitalism, selfish survival instincts will trump in a society like ours which is built on such empty moral princples.
The time has come to remove these corrupt CommieLibs from power “By any means necessary”. They should be physically dragged from office and jailed for willfully violating the Constitution. I call on the U.S. Military to stage a good old-fashioned coup.
good luck getting crackheads and illegal aliens to pay for health care obama you a-hole.
Notice, he says “up to $2,500.” That could mean 50 cents. It could mean $10.
He was right about the $2,500… he just meant “raise”, not “lower”
LOOK IT TAKES MORE THAN VOTING AT THIS POINT! THE VOTING SYSTEM IS CORRUPT!
YOU NEED TO PROTEST! YOU NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND LET THE WORLD KNOW HOW MAD YOU ARE! THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO HIDE AND BE QUIET! THIS IS THE TIME TO LET THESE PEOPLE KNOW YOU ARE SICK OF THIS!!!!!!
COME ON AMERICA WHERE IS YOUR FIGHTING SPIRIT! IF THEY WANT A FIGHT GIVE IT TO THEM!
CALL, SEND LETTERS, GET ON TV , THE RADIO, PROTEST AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHTS…USE THEM BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT TAKES THEM AWAY!
Oh by the way….. HI MS. SPY ON AMERICANS!
I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed! I refuse t barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence not my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any earthly master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act myself, enjoy the benefits of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “ This, with God’s help, I have done.” All this is what it means to be an AMERICAN!
Dean Alfange -
Anyone looking for what our future holds needs look no further than Massachuisetts, which has a similar mandatory healthcare system. Bad policy crafted by Dems, signed by Mitt ROmney( what the f@ck was he thinking?), and further expanded under Obama’s friend Deval “Although I Sound Just Like Him I Am NOt Related to Mike Tyson” Patrick.
Today, Massachusetts is on the brink of bankruptcy. Welcome to hell, the rest of you.
Lies. Lies. Lies> Lies. Lies. WTF? Street thug goon. Ignorant worker bees. Remember November. Harass, intimidate and ruin.
These morons truly believe Socialism is the answer.
Idiots
Lies. Lies. Lies> Lies. Lies. WTF? Street thug goon. Ignorant worker bees. Remember November. Harass, intimidate and ruin. My stimulus hasn’t kicked in just yet. Maybe next month?
Communists have always said they would destroy America from within, and they are succeeding. They said they would re-educate our children by infiltrating the education system – that’s what they have done; 90% of average Americans today are abject dolts.
The Republicans now want to cry foul, but THEY are the reason that communists control our government — all the years they had control of the gov, they did nothing to reduce health care costs, and thumbed their noses at people, rolling out the red-carpet (no pun intended) for the communists to gain a win on health care, with no care as to the real costs.
The Republicans are to blame for this. The communists did precisely what they said they would do, it should be no surprise, unless you are as dumb as a door knob.
Entitlements are never repealed. Bad day for working people.
Cry baby Losers. The only way you stop it is with violence… bring it on
I would just like to thank each and every one of you that voted to give control of our country to BHO and the Socialist Democrat Party. You paved the way for the destruction of the Unitrd States. Welcome to the USSA (Union of Soviet Socialist America).
Ask your physician how long he/she plans on continuing to practice now that this bill has passed. My husband is a specialist at a university hospital. He, along with ~50% of physicians will either leave the practice of medicine entirely or significantly cut back their hours.
I hardly see him as it is….why should he work even longer hours, make less pay, and have the government dictate how he treats his patients? He’s sacrificed enough and he’s had enough of the frivolous lawsuits that every physician gets hit with because of no tort reform.
The real healthcare crisis will be the lack of physicians to treat us. With 50% of medical student now female…who end up working part time and the current physicians leaving their practices…you better believe there will be a shortage of physicians. Medicine will no longer attract the best and the brightest.
The destruction of the best healthcare system in the world has begun and there will be no going back.
We have just crossed over my friends, and isn’t it wonderful? Why doesn’t anyone mention the fact that what happened yesterday is JUST THE BEGINNING!!! They have said so themselves. We no longer have a Democrat party in this country. We have a Republican party and the Communist Party. Wake Up America!!! Your country has been stolen from right under your nose!!! Some of us tried to warn you back in 2006 and 2008 regarding what would happen if you elected these criminals…and now witness the fruit of your folly. The ONLY option left to those of us who don’t want to live in a “Socialist Utopia” is to fight them at the ballot box this November. Thank God we have a system in place that allows us to get rid of these idiots. If they think the Tea Partiers were a “bunch of wacked-out loons” they haven’t seen anything yet. We are planning an all-out obstruction against them at every level. We are now going into their “safe districts and states” and giving them hell (aka Scott Brown). What we did with Scott Brown in Mass. will look like Kindergarten compared to what we are going to do to the likes of Pelosi, Reid, and all the others across this great land who follow them and agree with them. So, laugh it up Dems…you get your one day to gloat. Starting tomorrow, keep a sharp eye out and practice ducking!!!
Let’s all move to Texas and secede from the union. Kick all the Liberals out. Texas will start over with a fresh constitution which forbids INCOME TAX, and anything called a government. Instead we will create a protectorate to guard against any establishment of Government.
We will finally have the Liberty to pursue happiness as Texas Americans.
Really?
“This is just like in Germany when Hitler took over”
America is becoming an Idiocracy … and it’s loons like this, and many of the teabaggers, who are making it so.
Meanwhile, the comments from the mouth-foamers on the right on this thread are friggin hilarious.
Good idea, Brad. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Bow your heads bitter-clingers,, BOW YOUR HEADS!!
OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012′
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It’s never too early to campaign-
never forget what these superficial cowards have done to us, voting won’t stop them only defiance.
Texas SHOULD secede … but how are you going to have a “fresh constitution” if there’s zero government? By it’s very nature, a constitution *is* government
Oh, well, I’m sure you and all the other Lord of the Flies secessionists will figure it out.
Who’s got the conch?
In many of these clips he said he will reduce premiums by “up to $2,500 per year.”
That does not mean yours will be reduced by that much, it means that is the most anybody’s premiums could possibly be reduced.
Perhaps if you die while waiting for health care, you can stop paying premiums altogether. See, he’s saving you money already.
Idgits.
If the left failed to pass this bill they would have lost the support of the monstrous dependency class they created in order to get into power in the first place. Even though the democrats knew that half the nation opposed this anti-American legislation they were desperate for SOMETHING to toss down to their benefactors before they got tired of waiting and started thinking. They also know that the bill will not survive the tests of law or the elections in November but that’s ok with them because they ‘tried’ and they still have the hope thing going for them.
“We will cut health care premiums by up to $2,500…”
“We will cut health care premiums by an average of $2,500…”
Further proof that Democrats don’t understand mathematics. Even the simple concept of average versus limits, escapes them.
Remember in November indeed! I cannot wait for obstructionist, no new idea Republicans to get their due. You cannot just sit idle in Congress collecting paychecks. Thank you, Dems, for ACTUALLY WORKING!
SA,
I was curious…if your husband and all the other physicians are so against this, why did the AMA endorse it? Don’t the docs pay dues to the AMA to represent their interests?
I would be upset if I sent somebody to Washington DC to represent my interests…and then they didn’t.
Let’s look at the HORRORS of the health care bill, shall we?
* Prohibits pre-existing condition exclusions for children in all new plans (well, I can understand why you’re all against that)
* Provide immediate access to insurance for uninsured Americans who are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition through a temporary high-risk pool (health care access for the uninsured? Hitler wanted that, right?)
* Prohibit dropping people from coverage when they get sick in all individual plans (this is SO anti-capitalist; how will the insurance companies continue to reap ever-higher profits?!)
* Lower seniors’ prescription drug prices by beginning to close the donut hole (screw the old people, let ‘em fend for themselves, right?)
* Offer tax credits to small businesses to purchase coverage (another horrible Socialist idea!)
* Eliminate lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on benefits in all plans (Marx would LOVE this!)
* Require plans to cover an enrollee’s dependent children until age 26 (a REQUIREMENT? How un-American!)
* Require new plans to cover preventive services and immunizations without cost-sharing (ANOTHER requirement! It’s the death of America as we know it!)
* Ensure consumers have access to an effective internal and external appeals process to appeal new insurance plan decisions (you can almost hear the Constitution shredding on this one)
* Require premium rebates to enrollees from insurers with high administrative expenditures and require public disclosure of the percent of premiums applied to overhead costs (it’s the death of America as we know it!!!)
I am done doing the right thing. If this stands I will cancel my insurance and just get some when I need it. To hell with playing by the rules. I have for 53 years and I am done.
To reality check:
Easy with the pragmatism, pal. These knuckle-draggers are still pissed about the election. The health care fight is simply a ruse. Besides, you are forgetting that private health care providers always put quality, available service above profits. Duuuuuuuh!
watch the GOP double down on “NO!” for the next six months
then watch their dreams of annihilating the Dems in the midterms vanish in a puff of smoke
unless, of course, the whole idea of “repeal!” takes root … it’ll be fun watching Boehner (who’s really only pissed about the extra tax on tanning salons that’s in the bill) explain to grandma that she has to pay the donut hole expenses, and that kids *can* be denied care for pre-existing conditions
The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.
Plutarch (AD 46 to 120)
Dream-on Obama Supporter’s… Your Employer provided healthcare benefits will be taxed up to 40% for being the ‘responsible’ citizen you’ve been for making sure you and or your family is covered. You’ve been subsidizing healthcare for those ‘without’ over the years. Cannot for the life of me understand how you didn’t do the math. Hospitals, physicians, diagnostic clinics, Health Clinics, etc. have had to write-off their Svc for Fee’s to those without insurance by Inflating their Costs to those of us ‘with’ insurance, or paying out of pocket… in turn we submit our inflated invoices to our Insurance carriers, who in turn must increase their Premiums to us. With each passing year ‘our’ insurance premiums have increased, they have been more and more unaffordable to small business employer’s and to other consumers. You all sipped the Kool Aid and here we are today.
Now Obama et al will do what it takes to now pass Immigration/Amnesty (as Alcee Hastings so eloquently put it the other day), to do what it takes to pass this bill and “make the rules as they go along”… and there won’t be squat you the Legal American Citizen can do about it for NOT standing up to this Administration. Your tax dollars, etc will now be used to provide illegal’s free healthcare…. Hope you Lib’s choke on the “Change you can believe in” In closing, as Norman Thomas was quoted as saying:
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened.”
by: Norman Thomas
(1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America Source: 1948 – from an interview during the presidential campaign
So, how angry will people be when it comes up that these were complete and utter lies pulled out of the proverbial ass? (How fitting.)
Im just a country boy, and there are a lot of things I dont understand as well as these liberals. Can someone tell me about just one thing that the government has stuck their fingers in that lowered cost to the American people? We have a saying…Don’t piss on my shoes and tell me its raining
Now that Healthcare has passed, when can we expect Pelosi and her jackbooted thugs to kick down the other doors like she claimed last week?
Excess of liberty, whether it lies in state or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of slavery.
Plato (427 to 347 BC)
The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.
Plutarch (AD 46 to 120)
Where Liberty dwells, there is my country.
Benjamin Franklin (1706 to 1790)
Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin (1706 to 1790)
We may look up to Armies for our Defense, but Virtue is our best Security. It is not possible that any State should long remain free, where Virtue is not supremely honored.
Samuel Adams (1722 to 1803)
Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites…
Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without.
Edmund Burke (1729 to 1797)
Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth.
George Washington (1732 to 1799)
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington (1732 to 1799)
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732 to 1799)
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 to 1826)
When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 to 1826)
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 to 1826)
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
James Madison (1751 to 1836)
It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison (1751 to 1836)
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger (1759 to 1806)
Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it.
Abraham Lincoln (1809 to 1865)
The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep’s throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty.
Abraham Lincoln (1809 to 1865)
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.
Soren Kierkegaard (1813 to 1855)
Liberty never came from government. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of governmental power, not the increase of it.
Woodrow Wilson (1856 to 1924)
Speech in New York, September 9, 1912
If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that, too.
Somerset Maugham (1874 to 1965)
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
Henry Mencken (1880 to 1956)
March 23, 1775
Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death
Patrick Henry (1736 to 1799)
He’s right — it is catastrophic.
Lower premiums promised by obama? What a laugher! This man has lied from day 1, starting with his background. Nothing that comes out of his mouth can be trusted. Belief in osama is akin to believing in the tooth fairy.
When you useful idiots have trouble getting access to healthcare, I hope you’ll come to like the “hope and change” for which you voted. Idiots.
You know what folks, since this so-called Healthcare bill passed yesterday, I think your going
to see some people sue the Obama administration on what their doing to our health system. And
this isn’t the first time that the government has attempted to force nonsensical regulations
towards the american public, Franklin D. Roosevelt approach in the 1930s under his socialist
“New Deal” program tried to socialize this country, but their where 4 jewish brothers in Brooklyn, NY
who were named the “Schechter brothers”, they ran a Kosher butcher shop in New York. Roosevelt
created a NIRA during the great depression days, it drew all types of detailed codes for people
industries, telling how firms had to do their business, etc. But the Schechter’s fell under rules
which said customers could buy a whole or half coop of chickens, but couldn’t make a selection of
particular birds. That was in conflict with jewish kosher laws, which required the removal of
unhealthy animals from the stock. It was a violation of their religious freedom, the courts
founded the Schechter’s guilty of allowing their customers to buy individual chickens instead
of whole coops and they served prison time.
But on appeal, the case made it to the supreme court, where they found in favor of the Schechter’s
by a unanimous decision, the court held that FDR’s regulations were in excess of congressional
power under the commerce clause of the constitution & invalidated them. The speaking aides
of FDR justice Louis Brandies remarked that, “This is the end of this business of centralization,
and I want you to go back and tell the president that were not going to let this government
centralize everything.” This same message should be sent to Obama the tin-pot dictator. Since
Obama and his minions did this, will spiritual jews be forced to pay for medical care on
saturday/sabbath on which they’re NOT allowed to receive medical care? Are devout muslims not
supposed to be in presence of alcohol? Does this mean they won’t be able to participate in
an so-called Obama-care program which covers alcohol swabs?
Another thing folks, the Amish community won’t be required to buy health insurance, and
christian scientist won’t be required to buy it as well, as modern medical care violates their
religious convictions. So I say, use the “freedom of religion clause” to stop Obama-care!
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!!
“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”
I would like to see some statistics of how many obama voters had a job when they elected him, how many of those still have jobs, and how many would change their vote if the election were today.
bigdtexas:
You are wrong on one main point: The democrats became Communists/Socialists, and the republicans became democrats. We no longer have a true republican party in the US. The 2008 election was between a Socialist (Obama) and a Democrat (McCain).
Good! I’m anxious to buy a new car and get rid of my high mileage one. I kept my employer’s insurance provider when I retired so premiums are taken out of my pension check each month. So I can expect this increase on my check each month to start when? Next pension check? Yeah, right!
HAH! I’ll believe it when I see it!
impeach the liar, he lied to get in so its time to boot the nxxxxr out
So if every American quit their job in the next two weeks who would pay for all of this? Since it is an entitlement why should I bother to work? I mean why should I work and pay for myself and everyone else when I can quit and have someone else pay for me as well? What happens if every one is out of work? Who pays?
Or will we find we are not allowed to fail or quit. Enjoy the new slavery.
Spin the passing of the health Reform bill anyway you wish… but if the “unread” bill was that GREAT… why did this Administration have to twist arms, cut special deals, offer a few legislator’s sweet high office jobs and threaten other’s just to get 216 votes to “Rahm” this down our throats… are you trying to tell your fellow American’s this Reform was GOOD enough to win on its own merits. Guess the only supporters (30%) of this are those who want to continue living off of the American Taxpayer. This is not about healthcare, its about “redistribution of wealth” and as then Sen. Obama was quoted on the ‘08 campaign trail that summer… her was asked if he would ever support ‘restitution’ and his response (paraprased) was that he wouldn’t because “it would never go far enough…”
Wake up America, “we’ve been had…”
Those fools behind him are all USEFUL IDIOTS.
Hold this socialist to his promise bombard your insurance companies for your 2500 dollar credit or to send your bill to OBAMA.
Every 80 years, existential situations arise in America…1780 Revolution,
1860 Civil War, 1940 Depression/WW2…..now our time is coming to
throw off the tyranny that is enveloping us. I predict it ends with
the secession the Southwest, the South, and the High Plains West.
We are seeing the end of era.. soon the tyrants will bring in barbarians to stay in power against our wishes. A new dark age begins.
… but will you remember in November …?
A revolution is coming.
Welcome to the U.S.S.A.
This was the most touching time in my life. I took my daughter out of school for this. I don’t have to worry about puttin’ gas in my car. I don’t have to worry about payin’ my mortgage. You know,now that I took care of him, he’ll take care of me. Where’s my $2500?
Stay vigilant fellow PATRIOTS.
DO NOT BRING A PITCHFORK TO A GUNFIGHT !!!!!!!
And the INVASION of the U$A continues… http://www.BorderInvasionPics.com
OUR FOUNDER’S son is weeping on ABC Today – - http://www.FATBOY.cc
Brian. You sir, are dead on! It’s Socialists versus the Democrats. Plus both of them are mainly ‘Progressives”.
No, I’m interested in watching the employers’ premiums be reduced by 3000 percent. That’s what the president told us last week. I’m thinking it’s time to get on the dole.
To Dalai Obama who commented on working for Whole Foods, not having to “pay a dime for healthcare… and what is Obama going to do for me”?? I will tell you what Obama will do for you… for playing the game and sipping the Kool Aid, your healthcare benefits will be taxed by 40%… that’s right… your reward for playing is an additional 40% tax. Bet your mainstream media didn’t bring that out… but their excuse, along with Obama himself will claim they hadn’t read the 2700 pg bill… Obama will blame the Senate since it was “their bill”… and Pelosi told everyone to “pass the bill and read it later… where it will be fixed”. Interesting… you see, once the bill is passed and signed into Law, the Presidents Executive Order is “MEANINGLESS”…
So for Stupak, et al… they’ve been suckered into believing Abortion, illegals aren’t in the Senate Bill…
Finally, Change we can believe in… The only promise this guy has kept was the sweeping transformation of America and those who supported him can be very proud of yourselves for selling out your country
“We will be joining those who established Social Security, Medicare and now, tonight, health care for all Americans,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., as the vote neared.
Botox has gone to the brain!! All real examples of fiscal success! LOL>>>
Hey Arkansascajun: Sorry, but Ron Paul will be 77 in 2012….
To Missy7 … I saw that same speech by Obama where he indicated employers would save 3000%… what you DIDN’T hear from his Spokesperson (who was asked about afterwards), was that he told the reporter that the President misspoke and meant to say “save $3,000″… So you have to ask yourself how many times has this guy has “misspoken” in an effort to Rahm this down our throats… Guess its like the 5x he misspoke abut campaigning across 57 (fifty-seven) states in ‘08… How many of you knew there are 57-Islamic States?? Hmm, makes you wonder
I currently do not pay premiums on an HMO, my company pays all the premium. How long does anyone think that will last (especially since they sent out a survey a month ago asking us how we liked our benefits)! I bet they stop matching 401k too! Thank God I’ll have Social Security in 35 years!!!!!!!!! And Medicare!!!!! If the death panels let me live that is.
We did it FOR TED! We did it FOR TED! Watch me do a http://www.LIVESHOT.cc with Wolf on CNN.
Finally…Yes We Did!
PAUL RYAN/ MITCH DANIELS 2012!
“Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be
changed for light and transient causes and accordingly all experience hath shewn
that mankind is more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right
themselves by aboloshing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a
long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces
a design to reduce them under absolute Depotism, it is their right,
it is their duty,to throw off such Government and to provides new Guards for
their future security.” Such has been the patient suffering of the American
people the second half of this past century. It is incumbant upon all
like minded Americans to examine their consciences and prepare for what is to come.
Jailed for refusing to participate in adoration of “THE ONE” http://www.FreeTheND88.org
You add the super high risk people and, the cost of doing business is going to go down? Guess everything I learned in business school is wrong. The sad thing is that I know some people out here that actually believe this morons dribble.
America…this Bilderberg…Obama the Bush…is a known hypocritical liar!
He is telling the deaf, dumb and blind imbecelic citizens in this Republic that he is going to collect our monies for our insurance for four years….four years of paying without getting!
When, America, have you ever known this government to ‘hold’ our money?
How about their dipping into our Social Security that we paid and they were supposed to hold?
How about the $70 billion in TARP money they lost?
Do the deaf, dumb and blind really think that the money that is going to be taken out of their paychecks (those that are still working that is) will be there when it is needed?
Yet another lie of the Bilderberg…Obama the Bush…and his henchmen in the Congress…the Democratzi ‘loons’ that voted ‘yes’!
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JUST EIGHT (8) MORE MONTHS TO “D” DAY II !
1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!
ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!
Now, Congress can get to work on Comprehensive Immigration Reform…we will finally bring 12-20 million hard-working Americans out of the shadows and put them on an immediate path to citizenship, creating a permanent Democratic voting majority for change!
YES, WE CAN!!!
One last comment… you want to blame someone for this guy getting into office, you don’t have to look past the Mainstream, State-Run (Government? Media who deliberately chose not to keep their listener’s informed as to “who this guy really was…” Had they done their jobs, the majority of Americans wouldn’t have voted him in office… and if they did their jobs in reporting the news during the Health Reform Debate and what was going on behind the scenes in dirty deals, etc. there would have been 80%+ of Americans against this…
Immigration-Amnesty is next now that Health Reform has been passed and we will soon be providing FREE HEALTHCARE TO them… and guess what… illegal’s crossing our borders from around the world will flock here as they did in Germany from ‘90-’92 when they had their Riots due to the ‘Auslander’s.
ATTENTION EMPIRE STATERS: Yes We Can http://www.ScrapSchumer.com YES WE CAN!
Just the beginning. You loony libs don’t even realize what is taking place. Soon your vote will no longer be needed and you will only go to the polls to reaffirm your loyalty ala, Cuba, Venezuela. Some of you are smart enough to realize, it may not happen next week or the week after but it will happen. Prediction: first group to be thrown overboard will be the gay and lesbian lobby. It may be a few years, but its going to happen, and the same consititution that currently protects your rights will not be there, something else will be there instead. You really think the key consituencies are going to share power with you? What ethnic group is most opposed to gay marriage? What religious group is least tolerant of your lifestyle? Its not too late now to join the tea party, but it will be eventually. Being amongst the most affluent groups in society you will be among the most heavily taxed. The long term effect of this bill will be to limit the availablility of new drugs and treatments as a result robbing “hope” from future hiv/aids patients. Is this the change you were looking for? I may disagree with you on the issue of gay marriage, but I recogonize that all americans should be free to pursue life, liberty and hapiness. Being among the best educated segments in america you of all people should realize, theres no such thing as a free lunch. But here it is from a progressive instead, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7Y0TOBuG4
So now, many Americans will eventually meet the same fate as Mary Jo – http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/mjk.htm
Ted Kennedy: The Original Death Panelist
Your 100% right Juan… just in time for the Nov ‘10 mid term elections… along with the ACORN groups diversifying into new subgroups to bring in more illegal voter registrations to the Poll’s. THey got away with it in ‘08 and will get away with it again thx to the Majority in Congress since 2006 run by Pelosi… that’s right for those of you who choose to ignore they took control in ‘06 during Bush’s last 2-yr’s.
When he was off-prompter, he forgot the weasel words: “going to work to..” and “by up to…”
Shadow reparations people, all of the Kenyan’s proposals are disguised reparations.
I want a free unicorn! Obama promised.
This guy must be from Kenya. There is no American that could lie this well.
Which among us are willing to sacrifice their blood and treasure to correct this Democrat injustice. Lots of big talk here, but it is a time for action. Which of us believes it their sacred duty to re-establish conservative America to its founded status, to degovernmentize our freedom and liberty, and to chain government back to its Constitutional bounds?
Let us get a Constitutional Convention together and define for our Marxist friends, again, the limits of power we give the federal government, and establish harsh penalties for such transgessions against the people as their Democrat Marxist party has done with this health care take over, this bankrupting, this perverted unConstitutional atrocity.
The AMA does NOT represent the majority of physicians. When the AMA came out in support of this bill they lost membership and most physicians objected strenuously. Just like AARP came out in support and its members were against this.
Read the Investor’s Business Daily Poll regarding what the majority of physicians plan to do if this is passed.
The reality is that if the democrats really wanted premiums to go down, they would have supported tort reform.
Ask your physician how many tests he orders each day to cover himself against potential lawsuits. Look into how many surgeons will not operate unless they feel extremely confident that there will be a positive outcome. Ask your gastroenterologist if they ever refuse to do a colonoscopy on a fragile patient because they don’t want to risk being sued. Our physicians are forced to practice defensive medicine because of these lawsuits. And the democrats don’t care, because trial attorneys are their biggest contributors.
This is quite simply another governement take over.
I’m amazed at the lack of empathy all you right-wingers have for those who have been denied health care for so long. For people who couldn’t afford it, or could hardly balance their checkbook because their insurance took so much away from them. Do you look at how much profit the insurance companies make every year off of people who depend on them for health care that is necessary to sustain life for some? It’s sick, and I think all of you that are putting this thing down are all working for those health care companies, and that’s why you are so mad. Death panels my ass. You all have been persuaded by the idiot right wingers that are making these profits and are trying to frighten you into wanting to give your money away, so they can own their expensive yachts and have 4 houses at your expense.
It ain’t going to happen. Everyone is going to pay, including the poor that think that it is free. 2% of any money they get is going to this plan. Community service will be required of all of the slackers that won’t work and just feed off welfare fraudulently. Taxes, fees, deductables and other costs will be out of pocket. You will have to be near death to get any future government handouts. You will have to work for food. They don’t understand that when POTUS says you will have to “BUY” into this plan, you will have to “BUY” into it.
If the Dem’s think that they got “nothing but obstruction” on the Healthcare bill, they haven’t seen anything yet. The approval ratings for Congress are so low that perpetual obstruction is a vast improvement over ANYTHING that they do. As for Obama, he will always have his crowd of sicophants and worshipers, but he will NEVER get to 52% again or win another election. I predict that between now and 2012, things are going to get really ugly in this country. Start looking for widespread civil disobedience and increased protests by Patriots. We are going to take the fight to them! We plan to hit them where it hurts. The time for reasoning and compromise has ended. Now it is time to fight!!!
The greatest enemy is always the one we find within. It is true in every aspect of life. Now, in order for this country to survive, we are going to have to undergo radical surgery and treatment, to remove the cancer of Progressive Liberalism (aka Communism), that has entrenched itself within our government and society. The surgery itself very well may destroy our country as we know it. However, in the end I am confident that those who love the priciples upon which this country were founded…those who love freedom and liberty…will prevail. Whether or not we can retain the republic in its present form and configuration remains to be seen, but the flame of freedom that our founders brought forth upon this continent will NEVER be extinguished as long as there are Patriots still willing to risk their lives, their property and their sacred honor. May God help us all!!
After being uninsured for 13 years I am excited to actually have coverage similar to the rest of the civilized countries in the world.
The USA is way behind the times and this is a step in the right direction.
Test 64,000
I want my $2500 right NOW…..oh yeah, I forgot…..we are BROKE…..
To “Call me Ishmael March 22nd, 2010 – 1:31 pm” -
I agree that a secession of certain parts of America will occur…I just wonder when (the sooner the better). California/liberal west coast and the NE/DC will be separated from one another by the seceeded states in fly over country/south. Libs, you had better toughen up and learn to take care of yourself and your family BY YOURSELF. There will come a time when that will be required of you.
There are many of us across this great country who have been silent (working) for too long. Things will change, hopefully by the VOTE. However, other avenues for change DO exist.
Calling one another names is a waste of energy and time. All that matters is the ECONOMICS of this health care fiasco and the fact that is is UNSUSTAINABLE.
so they lose 20 million independent voters and gain 20 million illegals when they pass immigration reform in the same bipartisan manner – they will still be the majority in 2012. we need something more reliable than the ballot box.
Millions of “SHOVEL READY SNOWJOBS” being created by this bill – http://www.M4GW.com
You ever wonder why someone would want to “fundimentally Change” the greatest country in the world, the last bastion of actual freedom on this planet? Americans don’t see wars fought in the streets, suicide bombers on every corner market, warplanes flying overhead, etc. We enjoy public services like clean water, electricity, sewer processing, etc. all provided by companies which are paid a fee and operate for profit (capitalists). Our system wasn’t broken. There needs to be some reform, but not to the extent that we are now witnessing. Within 12 months, this country will be unrecognizable to most americans. I fear for what we will now witness along the lines of civil unrest and possibly war, and what we will have to raise our children in spite of. Yesterday, our country took a huge step back and will never be the same. I hope the true patriots rise up and recover what the USA once was, as it was designed and laid out in our constitution. We need to remember why and how this country was formed and that maybe it was because of this we have been the finest country in the world since its inception. We need to regain control and recover the true, never-say-die attitude our forefathers had that made this country successful and allowed its citizens to enjoy freedoms like nowhere else in the world. We need to take it back and keep it, and always remember why it is so great.
Yeah, just like Im still waiting for him to help me pay my mortgage and fill my gas tank!
You can poop in one hand and put Obama’s promises in the other and see which one fills up faster.
One can only wonder why anyone anywhere could feel that they are somehow entitled to my money, my labor, my blood, sweat, and tears. Yet you see them running around making such claims and demanding I fork over whatever I have. The same people who pervert the story of Robin Hood. Socialists, be them communist or the fascist variety, do have one thing in common. They certainly know how to make good use of their “useful idiots”.
Just keep in mind that the next time you go to the polls, do try to vote for a “representative”, not a “ruler”. You get what you vote for. You just might not what you get.
…..and the check is in the mail, I was just going to call you – why would anybody listen to this pathological liar?
I’m waiting for my free money. *crickets chirping*
Your all kissing China’s ass. so it don’t matter
Ernie you stated: <<<>>>>>>>
Though this may come as a surprise to you, 70% of Amercian Doctors ARE NOT members of the AMA. Now you know why!
We need to have politicians run on a white rights platform
if they ever have the nerve.Everybody looks out for their own
race but us!Has a majority ever been bullied like this before in world history?
Wow, look at all the sturm und drang about 40% taxes on health premiums
You *do* understand that it’s 40% on the portion of insurance premiums exceeding $8,000 a year for individuals and $21,000 a year for family plans
Other taxes levied are on those earning $200,000/$250,000 per year and up.
It’s a shame you all don’t have as much compassion for those on the lower rungs of the economic ladder as you do for those on the upper rungs.
The blithering idiocy displayed in the comments here is supremely entertaining
The bill also has student loans and grants which will be targeted to
blacks. The bill also has quotas for blacks in medical schools
and hospitals or fed money is withheld.
Is it created or saved?
The Democrats will claim that, if it were not for this bill, our premiums would be $2,500 more than what they are at the time the claim is made. This claim can be made at any time and as often as needed.
By the way, when is Rush Limbaugh moving to Costa Rica, as he said he’d do if this bill passed?
Can’t be soon enough … let’s all chip in:
After being uninsured for 13 years I am excited to actually have coverage similar to the rest of the civilized countries in the world.
The USA is way behind the times and this is a step in the right direction.
You can go to hell idiot. Clearly you made it just fine without health insurance, and now you arrogantly post a comment saying we are behind the rest of the world and its time for you to get some free sh–. F— Y– coward.
Something must be done: You’re driving down a winding road and come across a young couple trapped in a car that has hit a tree and both are bleeding and badly injured, and upon closer inspection you realize that unless something is done both are going to die, as your mind races wildly trying to find the answer you notice the back seat has now caught fire, now you go into full panic mode, realizing that if something isn’t done quickly, the flames will engulf the car and burn the young couple to death. Your instincts take over and you spring into action grab the keys from the ignition, open the trunk and finds what to appears to be a water can, in a rush to save the young couple to take the top of the can and pitch the fluid towards the flames, you are knocked backwards 30 feet, the hair on your arms and your eyebrows have been burned off, the car now is engulfed in flames and the young couple is screaming in agony. The can contained gasoline. Despite your noble efforts, the couple dies a fiery death. You because of you noble intentions are now qualified to serve as a US representative under Nancy Pelosi on behalf of the american people.
Look at it this way…………..
The employer will stop paying your insurance and pay the cheaper Penalty FINE which pays the government.
Then you will have to buy your Insurance through the government Pool.
So now the Government will get PAID TWICE or DOUBLE….
NOW what do you think OBAMA is going to do with that money…You guessed it…SHACKLE us further.
The man is a LIAR who will stop at nothing to destroy the white middle class and bring the U.S. to its knees. Who will stop this evil federal government? WHO?
The AMA owns the patient codes: these are the codes doctors and hospitals use to bill for their services, the AMA stands to make hundreds of millions if not billions for the use of these codes. An objective news media would have reported that fact, which would temper their endorsement now wouldn’t it. useful idiots
In protest of this violation of our constitution, we should stop paying taxes immediately! Do you think they have enough jails for all of us?
Only the brain dead delusional freeloaders and idiot liberals could have possibly believed this $2,500 lie. I hope all of you white feely-good affirmative action voters are now happy. You are going to wind up with less care and pay more for it. Good job!
@eralito59: How EXACTLY does the health care bill violate the Constitution?
Be specific, please.
Take your time.
Now that it’s “free” – let’s ABORT OBAMA NOW!!!!
The seccesion route to freedom is the most likely. It is what
adults do when in abusive jobs & marriages….they walk away.
It hurts like Hell to leave something you love
but White Christian Conservatives are being abused.
We slave all day to house and feed people that will
kill you if you make a wrong turn at night in their
neighborhood.Meanwhile they sit and party on their porches
all day living off our sweat…
I’m really sick of this piece of trash. I knew better than to vote for the idiot, now I have to suffer the consequences AGAIN for the votes of the ignorant. You can all kiss my a@@
First of all the federal government cannot mandate the states to buy one product over another. So by forcing us to buy into health insurance they are violating our constitutional rights and specifically article 10 of the constitution. Read it and be educated.
Hey, look everyone, take it easy on us. If you could feel what this man can do with his mouth on Air Force One you would vote with him too.
One more obvious truth,
when a liberal says “something needs to be done”
their solution is always more socialism.
I can’t believe they did this against the will of the people. It’s gonna come back to them, and hard, in November.
Check out this funny “zombie” parody on Obamacare: http://www.funnyconservatives.com/?p=229
I saw an “Obama For President” Bumper Sticker the other day. It’s been quite a while since I had seen one. It was on the Back Bumper of a car, on the back of a Flat-Bed Tow Truck that was pulling into a Scrap Yard. That Car must have been one of those ‘Clunkers’ that US Taxpayers paid Ca$h for!
I’m just a moron!!! That’s the smartest thing I’ve said in 25 years. This is my comment, and I’m leaving it here for you
**********************FOLLOW these traitors into the private sector AFTER the have been VOTED OUT and hold them to account for their treasonous acts against the AMERICAN PEOPLE! (NEVER) forget (who) they were and (what) they did!
The US contitution does not guarantee anyone, any kind of insurance plan. Your neighbor does not owe you any kind of insurance either. Your lucky enough to have access to the finest healthcare, which IS NOT denied, whether you pay for it or not. Nor is it your neighbors responsibility to make sure you dont go into debt.
This wont last very long people. At least we are prepared to survive when it all falls apart under crippling debt, and inevitable rationing.
National healthcare now means we can start “hating” people for their lifestyle choices because we will all be responsible for their medical bills.
AND THOSE ELECTRIC SHOPPING CARTS ARE FOR THE HANDICAP!!!!!! NOT THE MORBIDLY OBESE! TRY WALKING A LITTLE!
I’ve said it before, an’ I’ll say it again! Ya Cain’t Fix STUPID!
Notice the Broke Obama repeatedly says “UP TO $2500″…
Key words are: “UP TO”. ‘Up to’ is a caveat that means it could also be 50-cents. This is used car salesman sales tactics.
The power of the “VOTE FOR US, WE’LL GIVE YOU STUFF” party. No matter whether it ever actually happens… and if it does, it’s at the expense of the economy, small business, employers, TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX.
The noose on the golden goose’s neck is tightening. Unfettered, this administration will kill it.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE U.S. WILL LOOK LIKE SOON LOOK TO CUBIA.
@eralitio59 wrote: First of all the federal government cannot mandate the states to buy one product over another. So by forcing us to buy into health insurance they are violating our constitutional rights and specifically article 10 of the constitution. Read it and be educated.
Well, the Constitution I live under doesn’t have an Article 10 … should I assume you mean Section 10 of Article 1? Or do you mean the 10th Amendment? Or is there an Article 10 somewhere in the Teabagger’s Constitution that the rest of us don’t know about?
What does he mean “work with my employer” to lower premiums? Nancy Pelosi told me I could quit my day-job and stay home and paint all day long. I am disillusioned.
If (probably when) the reform goes south with higher taxes and premiums, lower quality, rationed care, etc. the liberals will have a hard time blaming the failure on the Republicans – they’ll try of course as they always do, but I don’t see how they can make a case.
@natb1 writes: “The US contitution does not guarantee anyone, any kind of insurance plan”
Most of know how to spell the word “Constitution” … but okay, it doesn’t guarantee any kind of insurance plan … BUT it also does NOT mention, for example:
The Air Force — should we disband it?
Congressional Districts — should we get rid of them?
Presumption of Innocence — nope, it’s not in there; should we throw out our legal system?
Most of these slope-headed knuckle-draggers screaming “UNCONSTITUTIONAL!” wouldn’t know thing one about the Constitution if John Adams walked up and handed them a copy.
Pelosi and her CBO say this bill will save 140 billion over 10 years.
We pay over 50 billion in interest every month on our debt.
Put another way… we will save enough with this healthcare plan in 10 years to pay for 2-1/2 months of interest on our debt !?….which, by 2015, will be near 15 trillion.
We have unfunded liabilities of 108 TRILLION DOLLARS!!
Put another way…. all the REAL ESTATE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD is said to be worth 80 trillion dollars. We are already bankrupt.
IMHO, anyone who believes that “social cohesion” is not at risk is naive.
The next 5 years will be extremely difficult for all of us.
You folks do realize that you already ARE paying for the uninsured, right? And you get the concept of diversified risk being addressed by including the uninsured in the pool?
And I’m pretty sure that most of you posters do NOT make more than $200K a year — where does the tax hike fear come from again?
How many of you consider yourselves Christians? I wonder how God feels about caring for the less fortunate?
The ignorance on this board is astounding.
The Whole Democratic Party’s Plan of Action is based on The Principle of Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. That only works until Peter figures out what has been happening, and that he is being robbed. At his point Peter gets very upset. And I’ll tell ya folks there just ain’t anything worse to deal with than a Sore Peter!
“slope-headed knuckle-draggers”…classy.
The point is, you are not owed anything, and you dont have a contitootunal right to STUFF.
“Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do for you”…natb1
Its OK though, we (most of us) will be in the same sinking ship. Im prepared. I already got 40+ years, thats enough to be greatfull.
I dont get it how can they feel good about making people buy heath insurance but not feel good about limiting how many kids you can have when you are on welfare !!!
Here it is…
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The country you now live in had a constition but not anymore. Any time you violate anyone’s rights and take away their freedom, you have trampled and destroyed the constitution.
By voting this socialist into office you carry some responsibily of destroying what used to be a free and innovative country into the ash heaps of history. We will soon be known as USSA (United States of Socialist America).
But the American people will not put up with this abusive and will remove him from office…Stay tuned…
Guess what you idiots – you’ll be waiting until you’re blue in the face!! There won’t be a reduction in anything! Instead there will be an increase. Then you are you gonna blame?
The heck with the 2500.00,I’m still waiting for my flat screen TV to be shipped to me.
This lying coon is gonna make my generation pay for slavery. All blacks want is handouts cuz they feel like there owed for slavery. If we don’t elect a white man in 2012 this country is doomed, even the blacks. Liberals won’t have nothing to complain about cuz there won’t be a country anymore if he is elected again.
@natb1 writes: ” “slope-headed knuckle-draggers”…classy.”
a lot classier than most of the wingnut lunacy being posted on this thread … and thousands like it around the Web
a lot classier than the teabaggers screaming “n***er” and “f***ot” and threatening gun violence
a lot classier than all the invocations of Hitler and Nazi Germany being made in response to the bill
I agree with GH. What would Jesus want? Stop being so selfish. We are all in this together. United we stand, divided we fall. And if the Bill doesn’t work out, then it will be changed. Everybody in this country is getting hysterical over nothing (or rather, over something: they think people different from themselves will also be entitled to the same health care they have.)
GenLee: YOU are clearly a “slope-headed knuckle-dragger”
(see what I mean, natb1?)
If you are a TRUE AMERICAN, you would give up any right to Medicare. AND Medicaid. And our military should refuse the socialist health insurance our government gives them! REAL AMERICANS believe in Capitalism!
@eralitio59: So you finally figured out the difference between an Article and an Amendment. Congratulations.
But you still haven’t shown — specifically — what part of the bill violates the Constitution and why. C’mon, now that you know the difference between an Article and an Amendment, you ought to be able to make some arguments that put ANY Constitutional scholar to shame. Have at it.
SOON THESE TRAITORS will be VOTED OUT! FOLLOW them into the (private sector) and hold them accountable for their treasonous ACTIONS against the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! REMEMBER each and EVERY ONE of them and follow them into ANY appointments and ANY jobs!
I am afraid this has become a race issue too, Obama has not done the black people any favors. I live in the Atlanta area and I have taken a lot of anger and hostility towards me from the blacks because I am a conservative and a lot of hostility and anger towards me from many others too. I have lived in the South all my life and understand what is going on, it is straight from the pit of hell and all the racist hatred from both sides is an invention of the Devil to destroy us and to keep us from doing what Christ wants us to do… Love one another. God help us! (so I am hated for the Truth)
You just can’t fix stupid! Just wait and see what can happen in November!
There’s always hope. What ever happened to get off your rear-ends and take care of it yourself. “WORK” was not the four letter word that I used to get my mouth washed out about;it was “LAZY”!!!!!!!
Exactly, Mr. America!
And don’t you DARE drive on those roads that government paid for.
And don’t you DARE let your kids take part in a school lunch program
And don’t you DARE use a public library
And don’t you DARE visit a national park
And don’t you DARE take advantage of FDIC protections
And don’t you DARE use 911
… because EVERYTHING the Government does is WRONG!
I know it’s true because Glenn Beck told me so
Maybe we all should just change our MEDICAL BILLING ADDRESS to:
1600 Penn. Ave., Washington, DC
and LET THOSE SMARTA$$E$ in Washington figure it out.
Yeah, play the audio clip that I’ve heard Limbaugh play where he’s telling “his people” (union folks) that his goal is to have a single payer system and to basically wipe out the health insurance providers he “claims” we can all still do business with. When the people depending on government outnumber those of us that actually work and pay taxes, then it’s all over folks. This great experiment will be over, if it isn’t already.
anti-demagoguery:
You are sounding like you are one of those liberal scholars who thinks he knows everything. Have you read the entire 2300+ pages of the bill?
If this bill was so great why did they have to hold closed door meetings? Why didn’t they open the doors for the entire public to see it and debate? Why did they have to do so many back room deals and buy votes if this was so good? Or scare politicians to vote for it or else? Why did they pass it even when there was 55% of the American people rejected it?
Because the bill is flawed. It rises premiums and taxes and triples the deficit. They went against the will of the American people and they will pay the price at the ballot box..
You can always trust a Socialist to be a Socialist.
Hoping some of the lawsuits against Obama include the eligibility issue. McCain had to provide documents to the Senate before the last election to prove Constitutional eligibility, so why should Obama get a pass?
Well we will see, I’m the typical American family. Something tells me mine will go through the roof since Im paying for my own. So when he says we will work with your employer he means they wont be able to afford good health care for you so you will get the crappy cheap stuff from big brother!!!!!!!!!
It’ll be like this.
Well maybe not just lower, maybe lower OR avoid raising it $2,500 the first year then, lower OR avoid raising it $5,000 the next year, then lower OR avoid raising it $25,000 the year after that, and so on, and so on. You’ll have saved so much money; it will probably put you in a higher tax bracket.
We learned that little trick from the great jobs bill – what are we up to on that now, about 300 trillion saved jobs.
anti-demogoguery – you sound awfully intellegent to be defending this all-out assault of capitalism… why do you waste your time talking to us knuckle-draggers when you should be chatting up your socialist european brothers across the pond.
@anti-demagoguery
I try not to label, judge, or otherwise “hate on” entire groups because of a few ugly people like GenLee. Its not fair.
Those kind exist, but they are rarer than their ‘volume’ might indicate. All they do is polute conversation. Its not unheard of either for people to impersonate membership in a group, just to poison the groups image. A lot of very nice, reasonable, and thoughful people object to an ever growing state commondeering, money, arms, and jurisdiction from the people. This does not necessarily mean they subscribe to, “survival of the fitest”.
Nice chats…..Bye
Everyone is looking forward to November… don’t you think this maniac wannabe dictator and his crowd will find a “national emergency” before November and cancel all elections!?!
Brian: I concur. What’s that about?
anti-demogoguery: Why don’t you move to Canada, England or France since you like it so much? Better yet I guarentee you’ll love Cuba or Venezuela!! I hear the health care is great! You should try it and let the rest of us know how that went..
My folks immigrated to the US. My father would say that people would come to this country not looking for a handout but an opportunity to better themselves through their own hardwork. “Opportunity” is when the government is not a burden to a producer of value, and when one can engage in an activity of producing value without being punished for it’s rewards. If there weren’t rewards but ruin, then it was our problem and not the governments (or our neighbors’). In fact when there was ruin, our extended family and neighbors chipped in to help us get back our our feet – they did it willingly out of the charity of their hearts (we didn’t think that the government should take money forcibly from our neighbors and give it to us). Well, now this nation has changed – people ask the government to steal money from their neighbors so that their made-up “rights” can be paid for by someone else. May yesterday was a historic day, but we made bad history.
If he could save me 2500 pennies, I would get behind this bill. I don’t anticipate throwing in my support.
Its time to wake up people…
Will Sir Obama, Princess Pelosi and Master Reid take fiscal responsibility if this does not work… IE: Impeached… Bankrupt and Sitting in a jail cell wearing BRIGHT ORANGE… if the taxes kill small business and crush young families and the “average American’s premiums” don’t fall by $2,000+?
Is it not FRAUD and Racketeering to lie to the American public for personal gain? Fallah the Dallah!
Time for investigations under RICO and crimes for lying when under oath to uphold the Constitution!!!
So can I just deduct that amount off my taxes then next year? Sweet.
You would think they would have finished taking away everybodys armaments before they did this. Guess the restrictions they have in place are good enough that they dont have to worry. Anybody see a pitchfork at the hardware store lately? For that matter anybody see a hardware store since the Home Depot Lowes takeover? Too bad the gangstas arent worried about this. I think that is the only armed militia remaining.
Remember the phrase over the entrance to aushwitz, “freedom through hard work” as I amsure that will be next mantra of this administration. Only problem is who is going to save us from this round of socialism? Maybe there’s a killing in selling chinese language courses to be made?
To all of you people who are now criticizing president obama: Where were you people during the election? Really, where were you?!?!?!?!?!?
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the industrious out of it. You don’t multiply wealth by dividing it. Government cannot give anything to anybody that it doesn’t first take from somebody else. Whenever somebody receives something without working for it, somebody else has to work for it without receiving. The worst thing that can happen to a nation is for half of the people to get the idea they don’t have to work because somebody else will work for them, and the other half to get the idea that it does no good to work because they don’t get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.”
Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1984
I know we’ve all heard this, BUT.. This has nothing to do with health. Or care. If this bill holds, it is over for America. Our president hates more than half of his fellow citizens more than he dislikes Islamic terrorists. Nothing lasts forever, certainly not long-running empires. May as well move to Australia/NZ. I believe they still have a backbone down under.
Anup — Your folks came to America with the right mind set. The tides have turned, and it’s ugly. The new immigrants (legal or otherwise), come here with their hands out. They want the money and freebies, and they want it now. Some have been here 20+ years, haven’t bothered to become citizens, don’t pay taxes, are under-educated, and soon will have all the benefits of legal citizens without having to work for it. Anup, you should be proud of your parents! I wish the immigrants of today had your parents integrity!
Opposition was BIPARTISAN! Thats what matters….right?
A few years ago it wasnt the vote tally that mattered. The only thing that mattered was which position received “BIPARTISAN SUPPORT”.
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Yup. Imagine the nerve of him to actually do what he campaigned on.
Either you are stupid to not get that or are just poor losers. Perhaps if the Republicans hadn’t allowed the medical system to become so out of control you might have won this one.
Oh, and love that it took less than two hours for the first Hitler comment. If you think comparing a dictator who killed 6 million Jews to an elected official who ran an election on health reform and then backed that up by introducing the law, then clearly ya gotta go watch more Glenn Beck.
My husband is a doctor who is 50. He is now considering retirement within 2-5 years but had hoped to work until 65. How is the system going to deal the many early retirements coming down the pike? Next, we will hear about the implementation of a VAT to cover the expense of this bill (so much for only taxing the wealthy) then rationing which really is the only way to control costs.
Thank you fickle moderates for electing our Liar-in-Chief…
“YOU LIE!”
I don’t understand why some of the anger that is so violently being directed at the Administration is not also reserved for the shadowy corporate entities that up until this point ran the health care industry with free reign. Has nobody here ever dealt with a health insurance company? Is everybody here so blessed and chosen by God to never have had misfortune fall upon them? That’s the only reason I can imagine for this vitriol against measures intended to protect people from far, far more powerful lobbies, corporations, and the brute force of moneyed interests.
If you are rich, healthy and blessed, then shame on you for having so miserably tiny a view of existence that you have to kick and scream like a petulant child when a small measure of protection is given to the millions of people in this country who have nobody to turn to.
I really don’t understand the opposition to this bill except as total indifference to the injustices inherent in this society and inability to perceive the weakest members therein as fellow human beings.
Well, I can tell you that I will not be holding my breath. I would love to see it happen but I doubt seriously it will have any effect at all on your average, working, Main Street American. Will it lower monthly premiums? I doubt it. Will it stop the annual rate hikes? No way. Not sure what it is going to do but I sure would like to see something out of it.
@finally…….step away from the kool-aid……
1.) Nobody in this country is denied healthcare…NOBODY. Show up at any hospital and they will not turn you away.
2.) Huge profits made by the Health Care industry ??? Are you serious ?? They rank 86th as compared to other industries, with a 3.3% net profit margin. Do you know what McDonalds is ??? 20.37%. ’nuff said.
And on another note…..I’d hate to be on Obama’s Secret Service detail. Just a thought.
Give me liberty, or give me death.
On the news, and in the paper, can we now look for years of “bill fixing bills”?
From now on, all political campaigning will be candidate X promidsing more healthcare coverage, and candidate Y promissing shorter lines.
Forget the saving on premiums, I’m still waiting for my free house and gas for my car!
@anti-demogogue.
I am a charitable person by nature. However it is incumbent upon me to tell you that you really need to stop while you are behind. The US Constition does, in fact, provide for Congressional Districts (Article I Sec. 2), Air force (as part of the Armed forces (ARt I Sec 8). The presumption of innocence has been part of our common law since the colonial day.
What the Constitution does is LIMIT the powers of Congress.
The argument here would, I imagine, center on the idea that the individual mandate does not fall within the enumerated powers Clause of ARt I sec 8.
The tenth amendment is an issue that may work since the Court has been giving more attention to that ignored Amendment of late.
Since Rehnquist, the court has also moved to strengthen federalism by way of deferring to state action more and more. So there is an argument there.
The fact that 60% of the country is pissed off about this bill and that Obama ina complete lack of decorum and in a Chavez-like manner called out the Sup Ct in the SOTU is also a factor.
This country cannot sustain this bill. It can not do so politically and economically.
This is a historic moment, but not in the way the Dems think it is.
Believe me. This is huge.
I called BlueCross BlueShield today to ask if I should divide the $2500 in average annual savings over the next 12 months – I figured I’d just subtract $200/month and let them keep the extra $100. I said that the President had told me that we were going to save that much and that given that it will take effect tomorrow, I would beat the rush to find out how to save the money.
They laughed.
I just got my $2500 check in the mail! Wowee!
A few frightened, angry people here whipping themselves into an frenzy; Like we’ve never heard a politician make bold statements and fail to deliver. I’m all for keeping our politicians honest, but lets drop the scary revolution rhetoric. It’s not helping anyone.
so many of you are tools wrote: “Wow, look at all the sturm und drang about 40% taxes on health premiums. You *do* understand that it’s 40% on the portion of insurance premiums exceeding $8,000 a year for individuals and $21,000 a year for family plans. Other taxes levied are on those earning $200,000/$250,000 per year and up. It’s a shame you all don’t have as much compassion for those on the lower rungs of the economic ladder as you do for those on the upper rungs. The blithering idiocy displayed in the comments here is supremely entertaining.”
The idiot is you — useful idiot that is. What you are saying is that it is OK to take money from person A, because he is “wealthy” (as defined by the party) and use it to give something to person B, because he is not. That, my friend, is communism. So you are a communist sympathizer/enabler, i.e., a “useful idiot” (and, by the way, the real tool).
Jenny…Unless I’m reading your post wrong, it sounds like you’re making a blanket generalization for the whole group of immigrants. You talk about immigrants who “come here with their hands out” and that “they want the money and freebies.” I’ve worked with several hundreds of (mostly Mexican) immigrants, and from my experience over 90% them come here for work, and they work hard for the little money they do make. Many do pay taxes year after year (you can get a T.I.N.–Taxpayer Identification Number–from the IRS to pay taxes on your income without being a U.S. citizen) in hopes of one day showing that they’ve contributed to our country and should be considered for citizenship.
Regarding how long it takes to get citizenship, it really depends on where you are emigrating from. If you’re from Mexico, chances are it will take you much longer than someone coming from let’s say, Sweden. Yes, it has somewhat to do with how much money you have, but there’s definitely a racial overtone that comes into play.
Instead of making generalizations, you should educate yourself before you speak. I think you’ll find life is a little more complicated than generalizations most of the time.
@anti-demagoguery 4:21: Not that you really care, but its article 1 section 7 of the us constitution, I’m sure you never bothered to study or even read it.
Section 7 – Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Take that and put in your pipe and smoke it dipshot!
This type of tyranny is precisely why the Declaration of Independence declared that the people have the right to “alter or abolish it” meaning the current government. They of course did this after sending their grievances in writing…
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to
harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
Today the federal government continues to expand the bureaucracy through executive orders.
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us.
Who can count the number of military bases throughout these states… or the grants the federal government provide to militarize our officers of the peace.
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States.
District Attorneys are notorious for bribing and paying for witnesses against the accused. This of course is prohibited by law… and who knows how many times crimes committed by the dreaded law enforcement officers or military personal has been covered up.
We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.
At least 37 state legislative has proposed or introduced legislation against the federal government for overstepping their jurisdiction within the states.
Obviously Obama doesn’t know how insurance rates are calculated. Actuaries consider many factors when setting rates, not the least of which is the overall health of the group to be insured. In the past rates have been calculated based on the fact that insurance companies do not cover pre-existing conditions. Of the 32 million people who supposedly don’t have insurance at least half of them don’t have insurance because of pre-existing conditions. If all of these people are forced to buy health insurance, and the insurance companies are forced to cover pre-existing conditions, premiums will go UP significantly. Of all the people who already have insurance their policies contain provisions that no coverage is provided for pre-existing conditions; if those provisions are no longer allowed, companies will have to provide coverage on future claims for those illnesses even though they have been able to deny them in the past. How will they do this? – By INCREASING premiums on existing policies. Last week it was reported that Obama’s actuary would not have sufficient time to determine the impact of the new health plan before it was voted on. Hopefully he will be able to complete his work and then explain to Obama in words of one syllable why premiums are going up instead of down.
I love these supporters of this healthcare. First, it would be nice to give everybody healthcare, but it’s not supportable. In other words, we cannot afford it. Don’t believe the $940 billion. It’s a bunch of lies. Obama and Congress has lied thru this whole thing so why believe anything they say. Can we afford another entitlement that will give free healthcare to those under $29,000, minimally tax the middle, and only collect 2.5% additional from those making $250,000? It’s illogical. It’s as bad as passing Medicare Part D and not raising taxes. It doesn’t work. Plus, social security and medicare are bankrupt! The gov’t has spent our $$ – there’s none left! The rest of the bill is crap. Pay for four years before you get any care? Why? Are they going to put the $$ in reserve? No! They’re going to spend it on other things! Then, there’s the taxes to small businesses, healthcare companies, drug companies. Who’ll pay the taxes? The consumer! Prices are going to go up exponentially with the tax on the business! We’ll all be paying much, much, much more for a burger or aspirin or a prescription or doctor’s visit. Then, the states are going to be hit with medicare. In New York it’s going to be about $1 billion. $1 billion in NEW TAXES! This is a catastrophe and the Democrats don’t care. They are gleeful in their success to change America into a poverty stricken third world country. May GOD help us!!!
“by *UP TO* $2500 per year per family” This is the problem with Americans nowadays. They would watch an edited compilation video of THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES saying one line in a million different places, with no/zero/goose egg context. This somehow rallies support from people who are probably are not educated in this field whatsoever and never watch the news.
Is everyone so blind and stupid in this country not to recognize that politicians have to dumb-down things for the layman? They say lots of things, but just like EVERYTHING COMPLICATED AND INVOLVED in life, you have read in between the lines and do some research to understand it. When Obama attempted to put forth the bill a year ago he believed Americans to be intelligent enough to read it, see that it was logical and bi-partisan, but instead because it was very complicated, as it should be, Americans just started listening to people like Glenn Beck, an ex-alcoholic, high school educated, ADD afflicted monkey, who is given more credibility than congressmen and women and THE PRESIDENT.
Shape up America. We have a good, smart, unbiased President who needs your actual support/opinions/critiques, not the support/opinions/critiques of the news organization you trust the most.
Do you think there is a chance to get Medical Marijuana in all states. This so far is a bipartison issue and many republicans and democrats are behind allowing medical marijuana to be used. Will Obama go back on his stance that the Feds will not bust down doors in states that allow medical marijuana or is this just another lie from Obama?
America…if it is so easy to overturn an Executive Order…why is it that no politician has asked that the Executive Order that the Bilderberg…Obama the Bush signed sealing all his personal records just after taking over his reign?
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JUST EIGHT (8) MORE MONTHS TO “D” DAY II !
1. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INFORMED!
2. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE INVOLVED!
3. WE “THE PEOPLE” ARE GETTING OUT THE VOTE!
ONE (1) SLUG DOWN…FIFTY-NINE (59) SLUGS TO GO – GUARANTEED!
IMPEACHMENT OR THE ‘ORIGINAL’ RECORDS OF BIRTH…IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME…AND 2010 WILL BE THE TIME!
He didn’t lie, people just did not really listen! “work with the insurance companies” “work with your employer” “to lower your premium BY UP TO $2500 per year per family”. He is very careful to not say it as an absolute, just that it “could” happen. “Up to $2500″ could mean ANY amount under $2501, $2500, $100, $0.01, whatever. Of course, since I make less then $250,000, I should “not see an increse of 1 dime in my taxes”. I believe that. My guess is that I will see thousands of dimes increase in my taxes.
These comments all sound the same. I can’t wait to leave this dumb country behind. Full of fellows that have spent too many an hour under the sun and who were taught that you can do whatever you want if you believe a Jewish zombie owns you. No respect for a fellow human being at all, that is unless they also are the same skin color and go to the same zombie-devotional as you. (By the way Australia/NZ and pretty much every other first world country has socialized medicine, I’m looking forward to it.)
Peace easy, I hope you guys ’see the light’, or rather see that there is no ‘light’.
It rocks to have multi-citizenship.
Here’s what p!sses me off…
Years ago, with a medical emergency but NO health care, was turned away from THREE different hospital Emergency Rooms and nearly bled to death.
Learned from that lesson to BUY self-employed insurance even though the COSTS WERE ASTRONOMICAL. Paid LOTS & LOTS OF BUCKS to Blue Cross & Prudential for CATASTROPHIC HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE, and still had to pay HUGE MEDICAL BILLS whenever doctoring was needed, because the catastrophic policy covered almost nothing…
That meant that most of my self-employed bucks were actually being funneled back into MEDICAL EXPENSES, one way or the other. Eventually developed chronic illness from the stress of all this vicious-cycle lifestyle and retired early. (That’s why their whole “entrepreneurial arguments” are nonsense.)
Now that those good productive decades are OVER (exhausted) and am chronically ill & retired, this BOGUS administration wants ME to pay via my taxes and their new imposed “fees” for SHIFTLESS PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER CONTRIBUTED A DIME TO ANYTHING NOR CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING POSITIVE TO SOCIETY! In fact, this new administration wants to PAY EVEN MORE to those same NONCONTRIBUTING WASTRELS among us for every damned KID they produce and for other B.S. entitlements (JUST WAIT TILL ‘REPARATIONS’ surfaces one of these days!). Further, since ILLEGAL aliens are not covered in this new health-care reform crap, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GO TO EMERGENCY ROOMS EVERY TIME THEY GET A SPLINTER OR HEMMORHOID, AND WE TAXPAYERS WILL PAY FOR THEIR “NEEDS.”
WHERE IS ANY JUSTICE IN ANY OF THIS??? It is no wonder that REAL hardworking Americans are FIRMLY AGAINST THIS GOVERNMENT-INTERVENTION IN OUR PRIVATE LIVES.
Great compilation. Yep, big shocker — he’s a lying sack of crap.
Next time, please normalize the audio in each clip. LOUD – quiet – LOUD sucks.
We’ve now seen the real BHO.
Question is, “Where is LHO when you really need him?”
And were gonna be waiting till hell Freezes over before one word that comes out of the “magic Negro” comes to fruition… he is a LIAR and so are Pelosi and Reid.
CHANGE! was not becoming a communist ruled Country…and Here we go, starting down that road.
Hitler would be proud! as his tactics are coming alive again.
DESPITE, lie spewing RICHpulicans, we got the health care passed
DESPITE, LiePublicans and thier VIOLENT fanatical (read terrorist) tactics, we will get Obama REELECTED.
BECAUSE, JIHADpublican you seem to forget, the MAJORITY of the “American People” voted FOR HIM.
So STOP saying “what the American people want is” because YOU AREN”T IT.
You scumbags gave us EIGHT years of hell under “sonny boy bushie” and you are gonna get EVERY drop of it back if we have to ram it down your screaming throats.
How ya like us now BI*****S!
HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !
And the final score is:
Dems AYES 220
Dems/GOP NOES 211
American People 0
Daily snarky political humor and social commentary at President Suit, Savior of the World blog http://patrioticmobster.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/220-blind-to-the-polls-deaf-to-the-american-peopl
What a friggen cirle jerk this site & comments are. Nutjobs…
Round Two is about to begin.
Amnesty will add 20-30 million more left-wing, mostly-mexican socialist to the fold. The dems are salavating at the prospect of increasing their ranks by 10-20%.
You people haven’t seen anything yet. The poorest people of mexico will systematically take everything you have. Good-bye USA.
I pay 120$ a month for my employer to self insure me. So I guess Obama will give them 120$ and pay me 80 every month now. Thanks Obama! In fact, just keep printing money until milk costs $18/gal.
Since I pay less than $2500 a year, when can I expect my check? Aren’t I entitled for my years of paying, or does this only apply to the leeches?
Congress will mandate what the insurance has to cover. I think for a family the type of insurance congress will require will cost 12k a year.
You lie!
I’m sorry, I can’t watch this fool imbecile for more than 5-10 seconds!!!!
He is a puppet of the Tele-promter, and has no brain of his own!
Guess Axlefool is running the White House, cause this idiot is to stupid to put more than 2 words together!
@Komkaz Actually we laugh at you because you seem not to be able to get universal heath-care up and running like every other western country in the world has done.
GH CRAIG: I just got a 1270.00 dental bill. If we divide it up between the three of us it’s about 423.00 each. Where can I send your third of the bill? C’mon…where’s your compassion? I will look forward to hearing from you on this urgent matter. Thank you in advance for your contribution. We are all in this together!
“Barack Obama will cut your premiums by $2500 per year…” … obama it solve all problems.
It’s a freakin’ cookbook you idiots!!!! LOL what a joke. Barak Hussein Obama is a legend in his own mind. In my lifetime I have never witnessed such a flaming narcissist.
Good luck people. Hope you like the jerk you voted for now.
Barack Hussein Obama mmmmm mmmmm mmmmmm. He is our savior!!! Haven’t you heard him refer to you as “my people”? He is Moses…leading all of us idiots to the promised land! We are too stupid to do anything ourselves.
Medicare – bankrupt
SS – bankrupt
USPS – bankrupt
Fannie Mae – bankrupt
Freddie Mac – bankrupt
Only an idiot – or liberal, but I repeat myself – could look at the history of govt run enterprises and think creating a new multi-trillion enterprise is a good idea.
I have no clue where people get this notion of insurance companies dropping coverage for sick people. In 2008 I had surgery that cost about $80K in total, of which I paid about $5K out of pocket. At the time I had a PPO plan that I paid for myself, ie not employed covered.
In 2009 my insurance plan stayed where it was. My premium went up about 10%, just like everyone else’s premium. I still have that very same plan today.
It’s a myth, just like the myth of a conservative Democrat.
“save up to $2500″ is actually true. Obama is not lying at all.
That is because a negative number can be “up to $2500″ as well. So when your premium increased by 2000, that’s a (2000) savings, and also within the “up to $2500″ promise.
Very clever BHO, very clever indeed.
Look at all these idiots and morons posting the most ignorant misinformed Faux “news” zombies, Glenn Beck watching, Sara Palin retard voting, Hannity non-fact spewing dumb asses on this forum. GO OBAMA!!
It is a sad day in America with the passage of this Healthcare bill. The only ones that will truly benefit are those who are unwilling to work and are willing to allow the government to pay their way. You know whats worse than having no health coverage at all…it is paying 600 dollars or more a month and still not be able to go to the doctors office because you can’t afford the copay let alone the presciption drug cost. It is unrealistic to think that premiums will go down when the insurance companies will be forced to take on more risk. This bill gives the touchy feely benefits up front to convince all that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The benefits that will bankrupt and destroy this country only come in 2014 when Obama will already be elected to his second term or is out of office!
Where’s my free Healthcare? I wannit now!!!!
Satan comes in many forms. This time it’s a half-breed. Usually he’s all black.
“We’ll work with your employer to lower your premiums by $2,500 per family per year… and all we ask in return is your first-born child!”
I am for healthcare reform, who isn’t! the thing that is so hard and shocking to watch is the
president twisting and really out right lying when he talks about this bill. If all you have brains
and time for are his speeches…you would think that this bill is the only solution, the only way and
that’s it!!! truth is, more methodical, cost effective approaches to reform was not even considered
because the president must win at all costs a political point. the same president with the audacity
to stand up and urge all to not try to win political points when all his actions are to win political
points. At the end, I felt like a foolish little person that he was trying to fool. My vote for
Obama was one of the biggest mistake i’ve made so far. I really thought i was making history and
perhaps i did by voting for Obama but at what price. Apparently, the price was far more then i had
anticipated.
The costs will go so high that in less than 10 years there will be over 100 Million people uninsured. Geez, what could have gone wrong…! Its appearent, he is not my president or the president of a majority of the people. I inlcude myself in that 70% who said flush this bill, its not about HCare.
I saw pelosi blathering about how she and her mental midgit buddies have joined the ranks of those who “passed Social [in]Security and Medicare”.
All of those programs are BANKRUPT and INSOLVENT… and now she is PROUD to create a new government program just like those. You people in sanfrancisco who vote for her as such freakin’ losers with no life. What a joke this government is… LOL the laughing stock of the world.
I’m sure China can’t wait for us to finish our final self-destruction. LOL you freakin’ obama voters… Hahahaha
BAMA IS AN EMBARRASMENT TO HIS RACE AND TO ALL HUMANITY. HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AS THE CANCER HE IS. TIME FOR IMPEACHMENT!!!
Economics 101 .. He is full of it. If they would fess up and tell the truth – (this will cost way more than anticipated, care will be rationed, and premiums will go up) this would never pass. Did he actually say
“We know this is going to reduce the deficit by $1 trillion”. ???
Really? So let me understand the logic. We are going to expand insurance coverage to 31 millions through subsidies and save money by being ‘more efficient’ while increasing demand? It might be 15+ years since business school but when the demand curve moves outward and to the right, will not the supply curve intersect at higher prices? For moron’s when you incrase demand and keep supply (medical service) the same prices will rise.
The examples are numerous. When government student loan funding increased (demand), tuition costs (supply) shot up. High tuition costs then brings cries for more government involvement which begets more programs.
The only way to dramatically reduce costs is to restrict care or limit prices. Using more electronic files will not save significant $. Economics 101 would suggest limiting doctor’s compensation, drug prices and other services will create a shortage of supply, or poor service. It’s no different than rent control.
Way to go Dem’s and Repubs. When is America going to wake up and see that there getting the big red, white and blue dick shoved up there ass?
He took the constitution out back and shot it in the head, bankrupted the country, destroyed major industries, ousted personal liberty and instituted socialism, turned the IRS into the Gestapo, alienated every international friend we have all in less than a year and a half. That’s hope and change you can believe in. When Heir Obama loses the election in 2012 will he step aside or declare himself president for life.
What did the GOP do in reguard to this health care bill??? Nothing at all!!! So, eat it! GOP: War and death are good, Health care and a better life are bad! The insurance Co’s paid the GOP to stop this bill and to keep their profits high. Now there will be hell to pay! Less cash for the GOP! Win, win, win!!!LOL! I love to see you brain-dead Bush-Bots CRY!
Everyone who works pays into Social Security and its still broke…now only a few people will pay for health care and no problems?
Impeach and incarcerate, He is in total violation of his oath to uphold the Constitution!!!! He aspires to be a Dictator!! By the stroke of his pen tomorrow, according to his “Law of Caesar” he will take away “God given rights” and enact “Government given rights” Completely 100 percent against the Constitution!!! The Constitution states very clearly, it is your Duty to rebel and over through any such government!!! Nancy Pelosi stated “Health care is now a right” (She gave it) usurping the “God given rights” of others!!!! There are no voids, GIVE/TAKE ARE OF THE SAME ACTION, THEY ARE OPPOSITES, THEY CAN’T BE SEPARATED!! To give is to take!!!! The Constitution states, Only God creates rights, this FOREIGN (To the Constitution) government has just created a “Right”!!! Is it truly, the new god, many pray to it for salvation!!! They pray to a pagan god, which will keep them poor so it can increase it’s power over the successful (Those who have faith in a higher power (God)(The one they blaspheme)), those the god (Government) proclaims as wealthy!!! It works it’s followers into a frenzy as the mother bird does to the baby bird she dangles a worm above it, it is anxious for the feast, as they are!!! But unlike the “New god”, the mother bird knows to kick the babies out of the nest before they starve her to death by their demands, they must go forage for their own worm!! The moral of the story: She’s not trying to be their God…Or is she? Feed them worms until you collapse or teach them to forage for their own worm so you both can live healthy lives!! Same as the fish analogy/proverb Jesus (Validated by the year date 2010 (It is his Year date, go back in a time machine and you will see him)) told “Teach a man to fish (Forage) and he eats for a lifetime, give him a fish (Handouts) he eats for a day”!!! But our government, has it figured differently, in order to gain wealth and power for themselves, they must teach the opposite of the mother bird and Jesus!!
That means they are gonna pay me $1300.00 a year to have insurance lol……..
webcite1 March 22nd, 2010 – 9:10 pm
What did the GOP do in reguard to this health care bill??? Nothing at all!!! So, eat it! GOP: War and death are good, Health care and a better life are bad! The insurance Co’s paid the GOP to stop this bill and to keep their profits high. Now there will be hell to pay! Less cash for the GOP! Win, win, win!!!LOL! I love to see you brain-dead Bush-Bots CRY!
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– My how clever and informed these folks supporting the Health Whatever bill seem to be. Clearly a deep thinking bunch. I am in awe.
IF you already have health insurance……well I do NOT, so what happens NOW? Can I go to the doctor for free???? I have a job, but I have NO benefits, so what good does this do me?
All the COMMUNIST’S going to do is put insurance companies OUT OF BUSINESS!
Congratulations on becoming a First Wold Country!
The rest of us Welcome you!
Hopefully you can climb up above #38 now!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
P.S. Your current system was a cruel joke, and you are being laughed at by the rest of the world. Obamacare just might save you from being the laughing-stock of the first world countries…
Life expectancy at birth (years)
1 Japan 82.6 79.0 86.1
2 Hong Kong 82.2 79.4 85.1
3 Iceland 81.8 80.2 83.3
4 Switzerland 81.7 79.0 84.2
5 Australia 81.2 78.9 83.6
6 Spain 80.9 77.7 84.2
7 Sweden 80.9 78.7 83.0
8 Israel 80.7 78.5 82.8
9 Macau 80.7 78.5 82.8
10 France (metropolitan) 80.7 77.1 84.1
11 Canada 80.7 78.3 82.9
12 Italy 80.5 77.5 83.5
13 New Zealand 80.2 78.2 82.2
14 Norway 80.2 77.8 82.5
15 Singapore 80.0 78.0 81.9
16 Austria 79.8 76.9 82.6
17 Netherlands 79.8 77.5 81.9
18 Martinique ( France) 79.5 76.5 82.3
19 Greece 79.5 77.1 81.9
20 Belgium 79.4 76.5 82.3
21 Malta 79.4 77.3 81.3
22 United Kingdom 79.4 77.2 81.6
23 Germany 79.4 76.5 82.1
24 U.S. Virgin Islands ( US) 79.4 75.5 83.3
25 Finland 79.3 76.1 82.4
26 Guadeloupe ( France) 79.2 76.0 82.2
27 Channel Islands ( Jersey and Guernsey) ( UK) 79.0 76.6 81.5
28 Cyprus 79.0 76.5 81.6
29 Ireland 78.9 76.5 81.3
30 Costa Rica 78.8 76.5 81.2
31 Puerto Rico ( US) 78.7 74.7 82.7
32 Luxembourg 78.7 75.7 81.6
33 United Arab Emirates 78.7 77.2 81.5
34 South Korea 78.6 75.0 82.2
35 Chile 78.6 75.5 81.5
36 Denmark 78.3 76.0 80.6
37 Cuba 78.3 76.2 80.4
38 United States 78.2 75.6 80.8
To: “B”S – You know what, your whole list is based on a “Life Expectancy” “statistic” from wiki – so what.
If you look at your stupid chart, if it is even close to being remotely accurate – you are doing nothing more than splitting hairs, plus, those statistics don’t reflect quality of life.
(not to mention that “wiki” is about as reliable as the climate change scientist’s dishonest statistics).
A reasonable person would much rather live to 70 in The United States, than live to be 100 in Casstro’s wasteland.
So take your twisted half baked Liberal logic and just eat it. America is laughing at you fool!
You people are freaking hilarious.
Honestly “B” – Those are UN numbers you reference and I believe they are wholly misleading. I’ve seen them before and the actual American rate is low because in America we try to save all from quick extinction. This includes newborns who might have birth defects/problems and pass at very young ages. We don’t just pound them in the head and say “Oh, well”. But if that is your idea of advancement, then you beat us!
so I went to the doctor about some pain in my feet. They didn’t find any reason for me to have pain in my feet. Therefore I don’t have any pain in my feet. This is Obamcare at its best. You get sick and they pay for it… but gee, suddenly no one is found to be sick anymore. Ha ha. Jokes on you, dopes.
mmm, your sadness and fear makes me hard. tell me more about the “death panels”. oh god this feels so good.
Obama sounds like a pitchman for a late-night infomercial who hawks lead-tainted toys.
The brightly colored toys he are irresistible to parents and their children, who eagerly buy them, not caring about future consequences.
America wanted change and that’s what we got. Obama has already come through on his biggest campaign promise.
OK So my insurance doesnt cost my employer 2500.00 a year, not even half of that.. so then will it be free… more than likely my employer will stop offering it to us… I’m getting s*****d amd an not going to like it…..
I currently pay around 40,000 dollars a year in coverage. family of four. 2500 dollars is nothing.
ROFL…this is priceless. The drama…the outrage…where were you all when GWB was handing out no-bid contracts to his golf buddies? Spending billions to invade Iraq under false pretenses?
I’m a family man, so I get being concerned for your own welfare, but can you at least appreciate that this will improve some American’s lives? Honestly, is that less deserving of a small slice of your tax dollars than grinding Iraqis in to dust and putting American lives at risk so fat cats can get fatter?
My husband’s employer just fired ten people today. Why? So he can afford this mandatory healthcare “reform” It’s a TAKE OVER people, let’s be honest about it.
Next, Obama will legalize all the illegal aliens so they can vote him to another term OR do away with term limits ! Too many free loaders in the wagon, no one wants to get out and push! This is why California ( and other states) are bankrupt! Obama went to Rev Wright’s hate filled “Church” for 20-something years, Years of mantra, hate, fear-mongering mantra, and that is the method that Obama used to pitch his health care “reform” Talking about it over and over and over again, until you are a drone, a zombie, he believed it, and only the idiots believe it. Even those who are out for a free ride know it can’t last forever, just like Medicaid and Social Security, it will all be gone waaaaay before I ever get to benefit from either one of them, yet I have been paying into those programs for 30 years.
to Harry DuPa
You’re right !! It has been Sooooo long since I have seen an obama sticker…..a PRO obama sticker, that is……
to DAN who is ROFL
I like to contribute to charities, I give many “slices of my pie” so to speak, It’s called Volunteering my funds, my assets, My time, MY money and on MY terms!!
When the Gov’t TAKES it from me and allows it to be squandered away ( to moochers and fraud) is when it becomes not an aspect of charitable giving, but one of gov’t control. That’s just the financial aspect, now, let us turn our attentions to our liberties. No longer will you be able to go to a doctor OF YOUR CHOICE, on a WHIM, cuz you feel a sore throat coming on, and you want to be proactive about it, now you will have to wait for approval, and that is IF you can find a doctor. Remember the H1N1 issue? No vaccines available? Long lines at the pharmacies?? Pharmacies running out of the shots? My daughter works at a pharmacy, it wasn’t pretty!
If you hav a businesses and have to lay somebody off because of this health care bill – make sure the ones you lay off had the obamma bumper stickers or the ones that wanted this mess. Let them hope they have change (in their pockets) by the time ole’ obammie BOY is done.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Now all the drug addict dead beats who demand demerol and oxycontin will want it for free!!
What is Obama going to do when Doctors quit practicing medicine, and there is no one to provide his FREE health care??
Sorry, but it is NOT my job to improve YOUR LIFE or anyone else’s. AND PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HOLD ME, AN AMERICAN “NOBODY,” RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CRAP PULLED BY BUSH OR ANYBODY ELSE.
THIS SO-CALLED HEALTHCARE REFORM IS AN ACT OF COLLECTIVE INSANITY, THAT WE ALL WILL COME TO REGRET.
When does this start? I need the $2500 really bad to pay some old copays.
Here is an example of how the “Obama Socialist Healthcare” will affect all who already carry healthcare insurance.
Up until last year, I carried and paid for a major HMO policy that was costing me $450.00 per month. As the economy was worsening I decided that it might be economically wise to go with Medicare and carry an HMO supplement. Doing so reduced my monthly health insurance cost to about $225.00 monthly but higher co-pays and a reduced limit of coverage for services and medications.
When I applied for Medicare I discovered that because I had been paying my own way with a private policy for 5 years beyond my Medicare eligibility date, I was penalized for not having applied for government Medicare when I was eligible 5 years prior. The penalty was that the cost of my monthly premiums will be higher until the day I die.
No sooner had I dropped my full coverage HMO and enrolled in Medicare, it was revealed that Medicare was in trouble and additionally the democrats are going to drop certain coverage to those on Medicare.
As though things were now not getting bad enough, I heard a local report that my HMO premiums were going to be increased. ObamaCare does not prevent the private insurers from raising their rates.
Ok, that’s bad. Wait! That is not all. My wife’s health insurance is provided by her employer at no cost to her/us. Apparently we are now going to have to claim the annual cost of her health insurance ($5400.00) as earned income. Doing so will put us in a higher tax bracket. My wife and I do not yet know the actual figure, but it is definite that our annual income will now be much less, and certain monthly/annual costs will be much higher.
Why is Obama not Impeached. Did he not take an Oath to Protect and Uphold the Constitution when he was Sworn into office. If so, how can he force a law that VIOLATES OUR (THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) CONSTITUTION
AND THIS IS AMERICAN DEMOCRACY????????TAKE BACH AMERICA WE LOVE. GO TO: http://goooh.com
From the party of No Change & Business as Usual, I agree with Joe “big f***ing deal.”
Very clever use of words by this guy, “we will WORK with your EMPLOYER to reduce premiums by UP TO $2500 per family per year” There are some very operative words in this statement. $1 is up to $2500 isnt it? And for the self – employed? Are we to expect the same type of assistance?
Sick and tired of these social engineers working overtime on my dime to build a dependant class in America to guarantee their re- elections. Our politicians need a wake up call.
Wow. What a bunch of selfish wankers you all are. Are you all shills for the corporations?
Christ, my premiums ALREADY went up a few months ago in anticipation of this POS legislation. I can’t wait to see what happens next.
i miss Bush!
I can’t wait to get my 2500.00 off my current plan……………………………….. NOT! I am so happy that we elected such an articulate and well spoken LIAR!! Looks like the only winners are the ones that do nothing, make nothing and need everything? Doesn’t sound like the America I was raised in. Well maybe after this all goes thru I can pay to have a copy of an illegal immigrants green card made up for me and get food stamps and health care for free.
All I can say is, as long as insurance companies are involved, nothing will change.
If Obama really socializes heath care then I’ll be the first in line to support.
you guys are all morons! I’d actually argue specifics, but it would just be a waist of time. Time and again, the republicans have left their conservative roots to become racist, bigoted, fear mongers. Spreading lies doesn’t make any progress for yourselves. Pushing propaganda does help your causes. You jack asses know that many of the provisions within the health car bill don’t even take place until 2014. (a republican stipulation) You also know that originally, The plan was to include a public option to spur competition, but republicans called this socialism. You freak’n morons! You’re already paying for the uninsured through higher premiums every time they go to the emergency room for care! YOU ALREADY OVERPAY TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THESE PEOPLE!!!! I can’t believe the amount of republicans on this site calling liberals “zombies”, “neanderthals”,and “Imbecilic deaf, dumb and blind…citizens who are being manipulated by the messiah of Islam” just to provide a few examples. (That last one’s really insightful) I’ve only got one talking point for all the republicans who this administration has set out to work hand and hand with from day 1. ….. here it is….go F yourselves! And have a nice day
See…Kelly, a few posts up, is a prime example of how retarded you people actually are. Kelly, do you know what Maranda rights are? Well, thanks to GW, you don’t really have them anymore. Do you know that the previous administration made it some how legal to detain you for an unspecified amount of time, without any charges or representation. Did you know that they also made it legal to tap your phones and sift through your email without probable cause? Do you ever wonder why torture was such a big issue in the media there for a while? Or why people would have such concern over Black Water being asked to enforce law and order during hurricane Katrina? And you want to impeach Obama? Every time someone brings up the issue of over population…it’s you that i wish could move to another planet.
Perfect! ! ! That just makes the single payer option that much easier to swallow. Eliminate the middle man!
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